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>see good art

>fetish pandering
>ponies
>meme
>patreon
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I really would like to see a lot more in this setting. It's a very fun setting. I really would like to see a lot more of the town.
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>>2170364
Hopefully Disney will be smart enough to invest in an animated series, like Kung-Fu Panda.
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>good art
>satisfies fetish
>cringeworthy dialogue
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>>2168015
>good art
>good dialogues
>barely any mention of patreon
>is jay naylor so it has cucking
Every fucking time
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>artist deletes half their gallery for no reason
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>>2168015
>fetish pandering
So? It's usually either a commission or the artist's actual fetish. Regardless why really give a shit?
>Patreon
Only bad if it has a watermark or some shit. If there's just a link on their page that's fine.
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>>2175049
>good artist that satisfies your fetishes
>vanishes without a trace or dies

Every time.
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>Good artist
>Alright dialogue
>Drew ponies for a long time than stopped
>Being /trash/ I stayed for the furry stuff
>Enjoyed his new works
>Artist progressively degenerates into a maddening amount of fetishes beyond /d/'s comprehesion
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Where can I find good judy art?
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>Patreon donors only
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Lopunny > pixar meme face
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>>2168015
>see good art
>patreon
iktf

I don't mind fetish pandering and all that other stuff. It's a part of the art.

But that extra brightly colored border or giant symbol that just asks for your money is fucking annoying.
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>>2170884
Can it be like Secret Squirrel?
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>>2173735
>good art
>dialogue reveals it to be shit like cucking or incest
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>Artist gets low on money and starts pimping out fan-favourite character to commission whores with terrible OCs.
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>"account name" has elected to make their content available to registered users only.

>Please log in or register
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>>2175282
>Artist has good style and cute characters
>Occasionally draws one ultra-niche, offputting fetish
>Over time starts drawing this fetish more and more
>Now only ever draws that fetish
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>>2175772
zootopia was originally supposed to be about spies so I don't see why not
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>artist does thing
>don't qq about it because I'm not entitled to anything from them
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>Artist has shit art
>But great writing
>And it caters to my fetish
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>>2178229
>following artist
>pretty humble with a modest amount of followers
>gain a mere taste of popularity
>"H-HEY THERE GUYS, TURNS OUT I'VE FALLEN ON SOME HARD TIMES, IF YOU COULD JUST CHECK OUT MY NEW PATRE-"
Every fucking time.
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>Artist has a lot of skill
>Just ends up drawing the same shit over and over again
>Never improves
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>>2178395
>artist doesn't have a lot of skill at anything but coloring
>gets cocky anyways and considers themselves exemplary artists anyways
>gets triggered and memespouts at the slightest criticism
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>>2175772
>>2178182

think he meant artstyle.
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>>2178395
>artist draws really detailed feral animals
>artist is a ponyfag (which I find nothing wrong with)
>artist's pony art is clearly very cartoonish and lacking in detail compared to their feral animal art in every way: eyes, fur, joints...
>tfw you feel the way they draw ponies is holding them back
>tfw artist will likely never blow up without their pony art though

Never even knew their name, but they droppee a link to their site on /r9k/ once and the difference in style was way apparent and kinda sad
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Oh, man, I gotta ton. Guess the artists:

>Artist used to draw only sexy, cute smut in excellent style
>Artist had excellent reputation
>Artist now exclusively draws Whitekitten snuff commissions

>Artist used to draw really cute straight art for co-owned content subscription site
>Slowly started doing more and more non-straight art
>Now does nothing but

>Artist known for vore alter ego, but also draws good non-vore stuff
>Artist works for well-known online content subscription service
>Artist creates cute non-vore characters for said service's pinups and comics
>Content subscription service goes under due to lack of money related to lack of subscriptions (related to refusal to split content streams into straight and non-straight)
>Artist immediately switches to drawing nothing but vore featuring the previously non-vore characters

>Artist with really neat style; wastes it on sparkleshit
>Also, every second picture is vore/guro that makes a person think the artist will one day appear in a news article containing the phrases "on the loose", "nightmare scene" and/or "murder spree"

>Good artists who draw nothing but eternal cocktease of one or all of their characters.
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>>2178485
>Whitekitten snuff commissions
>sparkleshit

what do these mean?

>>Good artists who draw nothing but eternal cocktease of one or all of their characters.

I started reading twokinds the other day, and I find the fact that he does this charming. it's a nice middle-ground between straight nudity that would render his content legally 18+, and never referencing it, which is unrealistic and a shame is standard, imo
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>>2178526
Whitekitten: Commissions nothing but rape-snuff-guro in his own hyper-misogynistic women-are-food setting, huge wallet, one of those commission whores that preys on artists going on rough patches and then monopolises them.

sparkleshit: take a generic character design. Add neon colours and glitter until all observers' eyes bleed. Usually sparkledogs, can be other sparklecreatures.

>I started reading twokinds the other day, and I find the fact that he does this charming. it's a nice middle-ground between straight nudity that would render his content legally 18+, and never referencing it, which is unrealistic and a shame is standard, imo

No, that's fine, I'm talking about the sort that is so close to porn without actually being properly erotic that you just get sick of it and start thinking "Oh, just fucking draw porn already, you obviously want to."
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>>2178574

thank you for the reply and answers. Cheers.

this Whitekitten character seems pretty popular. I've seen him referenced elsewhere, but I never heard a name: only complaints about him. pretty weird. but not unexpected from the furry fandom.
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>>2175282
Artist name?
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>>2178612
Yeah, but it comes to something when a furry generates a near-universal BAKA response from other furries. Like, even the bottom of the barrel has a bottom of the barrel.

Barrel bottoms, all the way down...
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>>2178702
>BAKA

Alas, I am be-noobed.
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>>2175215
>really why give a shit?

are you incapable of understanding things that aren't spelled out to you

here let me help

>artstyle that gets you hard as diamonds
>involves fetishes that make your dick and balls retract into your body

there, now be less stupid
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>be an artist
>learn to avoid lots of mistakes and can spot them at a glance
>makes it really difficult to enjoy artwork worse than my own
>no site ranks or tags artwork based on technical merits
>chances of finding someone who can draw well is extremely low
>adding my tastes in subject matter and style only makes it even rarer
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>>2168015
>find good animator
>amazing animation
>minimal to no clipping
>very light on the fetishes
>has Patreon, isn't a massive fucking whore about it
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>try to dedicate full time on art
>broke as fuck
>patreon is useless
>end up almost homeless
Never again
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>>2175282
Now I'm interested. Who?

>>2179574
I'm sorry it happened that way, man. Patreon is fickle at best.
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>>2179034
It's his decision what he wants to draw. If he wants to draw fetish shit let him.
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>>2177436
>artist deletes fucking everything
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>>2175282
Sounds like Slugbox.
Alternatively
>Good artist
>Pixiv, can't read nip
>Draws pokeporn and Kirby porn, apparent favorites being Keke and Ribbon
>Apparently tried toiletplay and adored it
>Now is a scat porn drawer
I don't want to live. I loved his interpretation of Ribbon.
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>>2179522
Who is he?
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>>2178574
Would the first one be David Hopkins?
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>>2181212
Cavafly01
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>>2182311
>search "cavafly01 dickgirl" on e621
>no results
>search "cavafly01 gay" on e621
>no results
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>>2182777
they changed the 'gay' tag to 'male/male'
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>>2179370
As a consumer this too sucks.

A single up/down makes "this is awful art but my fetish" and "this is great art" mean the same, vice versa with down votes.

Also "don't be mean, he's still learning" is the worst thing ever.
If your work it shit, hide it in a folder and keep practising, no part of learning to draw anatomy requires you to post your latest ms-paint misadventure.
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>>2182874
>they changed the 'gay' tag to 'male/male'

oh but even if they did, at the time of this posting both tags have 1,043 pages of content, so the server must treat both tags as being interchangeable and the same.
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>>2182777
First: nice trips
Second: sorry bro, cava does straight

You could try comissioning a gay peice
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>>2179769
holy shit you really are retarded
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>>2181116
Since when has slugbox done fetish shit? Usually it's just pinups etc
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>>2178229
>white-knighting artists

Lol, queer
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>>2185288
Have you seen his tumblr lately?
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>>2179034
>calling others stupid
>when you can't comprehend the motivation behind fetish art so you think it's some form of pandering
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>>2182239
Whitekitten is the secret fetish-art-commissioning alter-ego of David Hopkins (of Jack)? It's scary how much sense that would make.
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>find good FA account that has all your favorite stuff in it
>hell yeah boy this is si--
>profile deleted, moved to a different profile that has none of your favorite stuff
SHIIEEEEET
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As an artist should I always keep my fetish drawings separate from my other stuff if I'm drawing it way too frequently sometimes?
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>>2187312
pretty much
people will love you are drawing their fetish, but you have to improvise, not get stuck in one thing
like for example, you make reat NSFW art, so you could give a shot in SFW.
some NSFW artists were great when they change the tune
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>>2187312

Not any of the dudes who've been complaining about fetish content, but it depends, imo.

for instance, if I go to you to spill cum to straight (figuratively-speaking) m/m gay sex, what I personally get from the content would be compromised if the bottom is topping another bottom. or if the top was farting. but a lot is totally fine with me, personally. you can have either or both characters be fat, have the bottom be crying, or pinned-down, have the bottom bleed from their arsehole, give either or both parties a hyper cock... unless it's compromising its just being gay sex, I'd be fine with it, so you can go pretty far without alienating me, imo.

but if it's like, people go to you to indulge in hetero porn, and you have a habit of giving the females cigarettes, or focusing on their feet and say putting them on the guy's face as he bangs her missionary, or having chicks piss all over a guy's balls when he bangs her doggystyle, you may be alienating some viewers. but that said, I seriously had to pause on that last paragraph to come up with possible ways to alienate a fan of hetero porn in a hetero sex piece of art, cause desu, you could just as easily appease consumers by doing what you do.

even if you straight take a character and mentally regress them, put a pacifier in their mouth, and put a diaper on them, people fap to that. so I don't understand, desu. but I guess if people would fap to a pic if it didn't contain a specific thing, you're disappointing someone. in my opinion, it doesn't matter, though it's probably best for business to appeal to the lowest common denominator for that furry cash money
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Here you Zootopia fans go.
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>>2187892
Whoops forgot the link silly me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
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>>2175587
>Pixar
>Being so incredibly retarded
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>>2188230
How come I think you're only sharing this for some snarky bait meme reason?
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>search ex-hentai with a bunch of different tags to try to find something that has all my fetishes
>every result is either 4 pages long or 400 pages long
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>>2178251
yep I know this one, stop drawing comics faggot your art sucks just focus on writing
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>>2178485
gonna need the artist name on that third one, thanks
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>>2188572
Because you're a naturally distrustful person.

No but seriously I just figure people would enjoy the 'making of' documentary and this seems as good a thread as any with Judy in the OP.
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>artists likes your obscure waifu and starts drawing her
>everything is great
>starts going more and more off model
>changes characters appearance after getting jabs about only drawing skinny girls
Herny, I swear to god. Don't do this to me.
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>>2168015
>fetish pandering
what the fuck does that even mean?
Oh wait It's probably some buzzword used by idiots so they can make an artist look bad for catering to peoples fetishes.
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>>2190481
In truthspeak it means "This artist I used to like now does fetishes I don't like.
I don't like that, so he's a bad person, he should stop and delete all traces of his new work and get back to fulfilling his sole purpose, that is my fetish."
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>>2190481
It means that some artists will sell out and do characters/fetishes for the hits/fame/patreon dosh or whatever. Sorta like during the 2011/12 where some artists dropped all the OC they were making to go make mlp content that got them way more attention than before.

That being said
>>2190521
isn't exactly wrong either. Artists can't do one thing over and over and enjoy doing that for years. Sometimes they need to branch out and do new things to not get burned out.
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>>2190253
>when trolls manage to fuck up a good thing
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>>2168015
>>meme

what?

what is a "meme" in furry porn, exactly?

do you mean those sweaters with the hole for cleavage, or the cat lingerie?

while I admitthe above is just clear insincere bandwagonning on the flavor of the month, the masses still like it for that month if that it's popular. and it's still content, and undoubtedly inoffensive content since the masses like it, so...
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>>2191976
Mimicking actual memes going round.
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>pateron
Only complaint I have about it is how it's used.
Pateron should be used as
>Oh hey, thanks for the cash. Here's a little extra for you
Instead it's used as
>You want porns?! Give monies and I'll let you past my paywall!
Yes, I'm upset.
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>>2192569

what?

I literally do not understand what thought you meant to convey, here.
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>>2186004
>implying this has anything to do with why someone does fetish art
>implying anyone cares

the word stupid was used before but you might just be literally retarded
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>>2192709
Rape pepe, Doges, Big; for you.
Just with other characters hammered into the slot.
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>>2192739

Not him, but are you retarded? Did you even read his post?

He literally said in that very post that if you had the capacity to consume and derive pleasure from fetish art that you would not perceive it as "pandering", which he is insinuating is your buzzword for "stuff I don't like", since you said earlier that the aforementioned "good art" this artist produces gets you "hard as diamonds", which you are not complaining about, so you do not consider that "fetish pandering".

This reply you pulled out of your arse shouldn't even be considered a valid reply, since in response to his assertion that you're being hypocritical by qqing about "pandering" when you do not consider stuff that appeals to you "pandering", you replied here that... the motivation behind what you perceive to be "pandering" has nothing to do with why this perceived "pandering" is done? what a worthless reply. that's like responding to being asked how your day went by asserting that your gender is male.

all in all, your understanding of "pandering" is literally just a buzzword you use to describe shit you can't consume and enjoy consuming, so, he's right. you're a deluded, ignorant retard who hates his own ignorance and projects that self-hate onto others in envy you tell yourself is otherwise. so go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>2192806
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>>2192981
>oh shit, I just got rekt
>better call him mad
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>>2193014
Not even the same guy, but seeing someone sperg out and type a wall of text is the definition of mad.
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>>2193054
>I am butthurt people propose arguments, but am too incompetent to propose a valid counterargument to change them
>better convey my incompetent self-rage to them via a umad reaction image
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>>2193071
>Damage control 101
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>>2192709
Back around season 4 of that one rainbow dash episode were she follows around daring dash and she made a smirk, I can't forget some of the porn made from those few seconds.

Like the one where she is making this smirk and with a big horse cock laying on her snout. There can also be ones with popular phrases, like if nick was fucking judy and it looked like sge was crying and nick saying "you bunnies are so emotional"
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>>2193704

That is not what damage control is. "Damage control" is seeking to undo the shit you did earlier, as you regret it. I responded to your first bullshit reply in the most logical way given the context since it was bullshit, then upon your assertion that you weren't in the conversation previously, I responded to your bullshit reply out of context since it was bullshit. "Damage controlling" would be "lol, well that guy who responded to you wasn't me".

But given that you are literally triggered by argument and are incapable of proposing counterargument, so you project your self-rage externally when triggered instead, perhaps you'd be most impressed if I simply posted a reaction image calling you mad instead in a petty attempt to indoctrinate you and make you feel insecure enough about displeasing me that you seek to please me instead, blindly, since blind conformity and qqing is my only method.

I would not do that, however, since I am not incompetent as you. but continue shitposting.
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>>2192806
>buzzword
>acting like that isn't a new buzzword
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>Like artist's works
>Look at journals/Twitter
>Every other post is some "incident" that has them begging for donations
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>>2192806
ahahaha oh my fucking god nigga i didn't even say shit about pandering this is all about how you so dumb you can't understand why someone's upset about a good artist drawing a fetish someone can't get into

like that's what the whole thread is about

you done and gone latched onto a word some other anon used and wrote a thesis on it

yo what else you gonna write, i can't wait
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>find good art
>find artist
>some good stuff
>artist has multiple of my fetishes
>fapping
>picture that looks OK as thumbnail
>surprise gore

Fuck you, ez6. Get back to musclegirls with loose butts.

>find picture I really love
>fine artist
>it's their one good picture
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>>2199841
>find picture I really love
>fine artist
>it's their one good picture

can't count how many times this happens to me.

alternatively
>See good picture
>head to the artist's porn tumblr
>half asses his artist tag. Don't expect to find everything he has done
>reblogs random non-porn related shit like memes and "reblog this post for this dead person"
>reblogs some of his works 2 or 3 times
>using a tumblr image rippng program will show you over half the shit on that tumblr was meme reaction pictures.
>give up and head to his FA
>over 2000 submissions to peruse through on a shitty internet connection.
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>>2175282
Slugbox.

>>2178485
Third is Gunmouth, don't know about the rest.

>>2181000
Suni.

On the lighter side
>Artist centered around one character for the longest time.
>Gradually expands out of it.
>Hasn't lost sight of their endgame.
>Moves to include flash.
>Moves to include CGI.
>Vocally hates whores.
>Has a Patreon but doesn't pander to it or force it into their agenda.
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>>2185288
>>2185965

He mostly does tentacles and ahegao. I wouldn't really call those "fetishes". Tentacles are practically mainstream on the internet.
He also semi-frequently does egg laying, which is more fetishy.
I think that's about it, though.
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>>2178485
>second one
Onta or powfooo are my guesses.

>>2200356
Suni isn't really who I had in mind.
I didn't really care for his stuff when it was sane and I certainly don't now that he threw everything but rendering out the window and went off the deep end.
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>>2200499
Dude, something being popular doesn't make it less of a fetish. Especially when it comes to tentacle porn. Lots of people know it's a thing, but it's still pretty niche. The fantasy of being molested, or seeing someone molested by a large, slimy, inhuman creature isn't exactly common.
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>He pays for commissions
>Hey pays for porn commissions
Jesus Christ how pathetic do you have to be
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>>2201302
Well, the way the other guy was talking
>Artist progressively degenerates into a maddening amount of fetishes beyond /d/'s comprehesion
I was expecting some next level degeneracy shit. Like shitting dick nipples fucking a guy's donut anus.
Forgive me if I'm disappointed that it turned out he was just talking about Slugbox.
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>>2201537
4/5 of all the pics you fap to are commissioned. Without them there would be significantly less porn on the internet and rule34 may have never become a thing.
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>>2201792

I'd pay for porn commissions if I had a lot of pointless money to blow. The problem is I'm poor as fuck.

Mind I'd want to be comfortably well off before I did that. Having disposable money, after games and internet. But if I had that, there are a lot of characters I'd want to see more of.

I salute those people who have the money to blow so I can blow my load. Presumably they make more money than me. Unless they don't, in which case I cannot understand their priorities.
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>>2189958
Samefag here.

You're a pretty cool guy
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>>2200356
>Third is Gunmouth

DING DING DING, we have a winner.

>>2201275
>Onta or powfooo are my guesses.

Oh, close. I'll give everyone a clue: Every single one of the artist's characters can be described as a "Colourful food squirrel-thing".
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>Good artist, nice technique, hot characters that push my buttons. Very vanilla porn, though.

I'll watch him and see how he progresses..

>Starts moving outside of his comfort zone, big things in small holes, ladies taking huge loads, butt fun, etc, all my favourite fetishes

Yes, yes, keep going...

>Suddenly multi-dicked hyper hermtaurs, vore, sexless transformation pseudo-porn and scat

... too far! TOO FAR!
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>>2200356
Who are H0rse or Cavafly
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I don't even know what the fuck this is about kek
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>>2201660
I can understand the confusion. Tentacles really are quite common enough that someone jacking off to fur shouldn't be appalled by them.
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>See cropped picture
>IF U WNT 2 SEE FULL IMAG, PLEASE DON8 2 MUH PAYTREON! ;^)
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>>2208461
This, and
>"Click this link for the uncensored/alt version of this pic"
>Links to dropbox 404 not found
>it was never uploaded anywhere else
>no one in the comments is asking for a reup
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>Artist draws quite a lot of good gay/crossdressing pony porn back when it wasn't a big thing.
>rarely draws Anthro, which is good because I prefer feral for pone.
>Suddenly announces he's going to do just Anthro. Begins drawing almost exclusively straight
>"Well it's not so bad, maybe his new porn will still be goo-"
>His art somehow degenerates and gets objectively worse.
>Can't into human anatomy so everything looks uncanny as fuck and utterly unfappable
>Has only drawn like 1 or 2 gay pics and they are all really shit and somehow lower quality than their straight pictures

Are there any other artists who have gotten objectively worse at drawing over time? It's the worst feeling in the world watching them slowly become shit over time.
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>>2209044
That sounds somewhat familiar, name?
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>>2209093
Skipsy
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>>2203652
Miu?
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>find artist
>he's decent
>work is actually pretty good for its volume
>turns out he's a massive paranoid shitter
>actively embeds steganography in his work, individually tailored to each one of his patrons
>has released personal data of his patrons
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>>2209831
>Personal data

Seriously? That's fucking retarded.
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>>2209898
Never doubt the autism and jewry of a Russian :^)
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>>2209898
Most if not all big name furry porn subscription services do this
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>>2208461
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>Artist has requests open
>One of their requesters is a diaperfag

They have my condolences.

Let us pray for them.
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>>2212418
> artist has a cute and/or unique style that hits all my buttons the right way
> it turns out they're into piss/diapers/scat
> but they rarely draw it and/or have a separate account for that
> whatever I can deal with it then
> they devote more time to shit and/or piss
> eventually decide to drop/merge the extra account and/or the shit art soon crowds out the non-shit art
This has happened like three or four times now. And I say crowds out I mean like 90/10.
Why does this keep happening to me, what the fuck.

Is this like a slippery slope where the slipping is from shit into a piss river because I want no part of this.
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>>2168015
>Passable art.
>C- dialogue.
>110% your fetish.
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>God tier art.
>Incredible story.
>Your fetish.
>Artist last updated their gallery 3 years ago.
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>>2212751
You know what's even worse?

>This account has been deleted/This user has made their account private
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>>2212820
The worst ever was FBZ.
Guy made great cartoons and comics, then one day just posted "Guys, I quit getting high, and I looked at what I was doing with my life. I can't keep making this crap and expect to get ahead."
And he disappeared.
I still nose around the old WWoEC forums to see if he passed through, but it's been years and years, I think he's gone to be a "normal" person.
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>>2212724
Damn that's subtle, almost like a game.
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>>2212971
Ffffff-
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>>2212895
That always confuses me. I can't understand that mindset, but I've seen it happen.

Devoting yourself to other projects or trying to set up your life, sure, that's cool, good on you trying to make something of yourself. But I can't into just completely cutting yourself off from a thing you spent years of your life enjoying. That's like some serious shame level if you're doing that. Did you get sent to a Pray The Gay Away camp? What happened? Who hurt you?
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>>2168015
>artist is kinda decent and draws stuff I like guess I'll watch him
>artist gets bretty gud
>becomes one of my favorites
>just under a year later said artist suddenly starts pandering to gross fetishes I hate
>every new picture is nightmare fuel
>can no longer fap to their older stuff because my dick is bored of it
>pray artist gets back into their vanilla fetishes again
>never does
>catch a glimpse of myself in the bathroom mirror
>artist is me
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>>2213041
deep
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>>2209406
>miu
Oh right. women liking women is still gay.
That completely slipped my mind.
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>>2209831
FAF?
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>>2175049
>They get a patreon and nuke their gallery because "MUH SHECKLES"
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>Great Artwork
>Loaded to the gills with futashit because futafags apparently have the goddamn philosopher's legacy to pay for commissions.
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Patreon should be used for getting updates, Wips, psd files, and shit like that earily in return for shelling out some cash.
People who want to support the artist/are impatient can toss a few bucks their way, while poorfags can just wait a couple of months to get it.
>BUT ANON IT'S JUST A DOLLAR PER WORK!
Yeah, but when you've got a buncha artists you wanna follow it adds up real fucking fast.
and Paywalls are and always have been a load of shit
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https://e621.net/post/show/864741/
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>artist shifting focus from rule 34 to OCs
>then official characters disappear off the radar completely

I FEEL SO MUCH ANGER THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ADOPT AN EXTENDED NUMBER SYSTEM JUST TO EXPRESS IT
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>>2214082
yep. I'll add that I support patreons that are creating a project because, well, I want it to be a thing.
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>>2214216
Oh my fucking god
Just.....oh my fuck...
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>>2214413
honestly, Patreons that're for Projects are an entirely different beast.
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>>2214402
I actually seen people complain about others drawing fanart of video game and anime characters instead of churning out hollow fetish vessel OCs that just end up being an emotional soapbox for the author to project onto.

Leave it to tumblr to ruin everything good.
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>>2214216
WELP
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>>2214527

>hollow fetish vessel OCs
>drawing fanart of characters, using them as little more than hollow fetish vessels

What's the difference, anon?
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>>2214993
OCs fall in either 2 categories.

>Boring inoffensive design
>OC is a ripoff of another character, but with a few changes. No personality or charm of the original

OC characters are hard to care about due to having no real establishment outside porn or some dumb asks talking about the character.
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>>2215105
You forgot the sparkledogs.
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>>2215105
There are also those rare cases of OCs growing into their own thing (like minicomics). But it's very rare.
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>>2214216
is he the same one that did that cat water splashing animation?
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>>2215807
>cat water splashing animation?
do post!
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>>2213041

Damn!
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>>2216019
lost it :(
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>>2209406
>Miu?

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER.

>>2213190
>Oh right. women liking women is still gay.
>That completely slipped my mind.

Usually I'd be all for lesbian squirrel-things. Still am. It's just a crying shame that Miu is limiting himself like that and we haven't seen his characters getting the 'd' from an actual male in a donkey's age. I've been told he's decided he doesn't like hetero sex, but I could also swear I was told he's in a hetero marriage.

Here's another one for you guys, easy to guess this time:

> Artist had mediocre-to-reasonable skill, created cute petite mouse girl character which managed to be very popular anyway.
>Artist put little mouse character in sexy webcomic. Shitty dialogue, spelling, grammar and plot, but we got to see the mouse being boned every which way including ways that looked physically impossible, so comic was also popular.
>Artist ends comic because reasons.
>Artist becomes commission whore.
>Under influence of commissioners and local hangers-on, artist starts drawing mouse and every other character like some freakish chimeric abomination, with a goblin-tier human-like face. Also ages mouse up to mid-forties or something and saddles her with kids.
>Artist has reversed the aging and human-face thing, though, to his credit, but his gallery was horrifying for a while.
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>>2216019
>>2216542
it was 3d, she was blonde, bathing in water and she was splashing at the camera. It was on inkbunny but that search engine is fucked
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>Artist makes pretty gud sfm stuff
>Even gets some with hq sfx
>Moves onto another 3D modeling software
>Okaycool.vtf
>Production of new porn drops dramatically.
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>>2175282
T.Fate?
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>Find artist in 2001
>Reasonable skill, fair amount of improvement to be made
>Lose track of artist for longest time
>Find artist again in 2016
>They have not improved one ounce in 15 years
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>>2178251

>Fap to it so much you get a shitty art fetish.
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>>2225571
>develop a fetish for shit art
>artist improves
>can't fap to his art anymore
It's an odd feeling.
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>>2208461
>Artist charges $16 for just the sketch, fuzzy chicken-scratches
>$25 for flat, light colors.
>$32 for final image
>$40 for high res.

>Some think they can survive just off of autism bucks collected from commissions with thier shitty art.
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>>2225806
Some people, even artists, have this thing called 'work' which means that whatever they may get from commissions is just an extra.
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>Tfw you draw just to draw
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>Artist is above shit tier but below moneyworthy tier
>Draws smut comics, puts them behind a paywall
>People share comics
>Fanboys get all the uploads ganked
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>>2175049
>>2175242
>>2213883
This is why you save images.
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>>2232567
blackshirtboy?
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>work hard to learn how to draw
>practice until you become a decent artist
>people compliment your work and you feel good about it
>people ask you to do custom artwork for them and you oblige because you're a nice person
>more people want you to take your time and skill to give them what they want for free
>finally you get tired of feeling used by people and start charging a little money for your time and effort
>people see that you're charging money and aren't nice and complimentary anymore, they nitpick and give you shit about your work and constantly complain about what they don't like
>you finally get fed up dealing with people, you don't enjoy drawing anymore because of how they constantly complain and insult your work
>remove your art and stop making any new stuff so you can get on with your life
>people wonder why you left and won't create their fap material anymore
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>>2232807
When you start charging people are going to want their money's worth.
everyone but total dicks compliment the free artist because they're providing a service for no cost.
nuking your shit is really fucking petty and you sound like a cunt.
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>>2232609
Happened to me recently. I had the fucking tab open the whole time but I forgot about downloading all of their gallery. By November, last year, all of their porn: gone.
I'm such a fucking and lazy idiot. It was god-tier art.
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>art really good
>could care less about the detail but bothered other artists have yet to add such detail
>artist is infamous for being such a fucking faggot
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>>2232953
>When you start charging people are going to want their money's worth.
And if you're a good artist they get their money's worth, and yet you still have to deal with petty little shits who don't pay for work constantly complaining about your work, complaining about your commissions not being what they like, nitpicking and annoying you to death when the vast majority of them would never pay you a fucking cent for your work but still expect you to give them what they want.
>nuking your shit is really fucking petty and you sound like a cunt
>nuking your shit is really fucking petty
>nuking your shit
>your shit
That's right, it's my shit, not yours you whiney bitch. I take my time and skill to make it, I own it and if you piss me off you get nothing. The real cunts are people like you who act like an artist's work is your God given right and don't appreciate the effort it takes to make it and keep people happy. If an artist nukes their shit that's their right to do you selfish little bitch.
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>>2233183
This
I'm a broke fuck, I don't do commissions, I rarely draw porn because I'm not that good, I don't support anyone on Patreon and I'm not against those who "pirate" art, but you're so fucking right. It's your shit, you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. Your post has made me realize a little bit how an artist feels when they're deleting their gallery. I've gotten angry at them for doing that before, but now I can see how I would feel if I was a popular artist and decided to delete everything.
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>>2232736
Nope.

Clue: Artist is female and fanboys tend to whitenight and congregate on infamous furry imageboard.
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>>2233259
I don't like to unload like that but it's why I stopped making NSFW art. Most artists have normal lives and jobs, unless they're really well known they don't make a living drawing porn. It takes a lot of skill and time to make works and it cuts into your day to day life. When it gets to the point you feel like you're being harassed by the very people you're trying to please it's time to walk away. It's why I did. I still keep up with what people are into and occasionally make an uncredited drawing because I like to make people happy and give them something they enjoy, but I'll never go back to doing commissions again. It's just not worth it.
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>>2233183
especially if it's a copyrighted character, ex. renamon or krystal, then go shove it up your ass. those characters aren't yours and trying to take control over what you post on the internet is annoying and downright retarded.
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>artist is great
>deletes everything out of nowhere
>makes a SFW deviantart and a reblog-only tumblr

I MISS YOU, HYPFOO
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>artist draws kinks that you aren't into but you slowly learn to like those same fetishes because of them
>that same artist then gets into burps, farts, scat and macro
>also they gave one of their followers HIV
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>>2233183
>Artist nukes their art.
>most of their fans are in disarray
>the haters laugh at the drama that caused all this and catalogue it on Encyclopediadramatica
>couple guys who have the entire art gallery upload it to exhentai or mega
>if on certain sites like furaffinity, that artist's work is already backed up on an archival site that is accessable to everyone.

Deleting your works doesn't really do anything but make good salt. I salute you for bringing us drama and tears (both yours and everyone else involved).
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>>2233183
>>2233259
Haven't you heard of the saying "burden of the white man"? That's a "burden of the artist". You throw it away, you get called out.
On that topic
>muh deep stickmen comics
>let me burn paid stuff!
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>>2233183
>those people are being faggots
>so I'll outfag them
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>Commission artist because you like their style and they're cheap
>They only do pony art but you don't care
>Find another artist who does other things with similar prices

Next month, BlushMallet is getting so many commissions for Peridot crossover shit.
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>>2234489
>if on certain sites like furaffinity, that artist's work is already backed up on an archival site that is accessable to everyone.
what other archives do you speak of?
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>>2182986
I don't agree with that, working in complete isolation sucks and it's important to be able to share your endeavours even if they aren't successful. Everything I have ever posted has been a disappointment to me and there's nothing wrong with that.
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>artist does mainly fetish art
>artist is so fucking insane about said fetish they ruin their life in every imaginable fashion just to satisfy said fetish
>stopped doing art as often

Why do furfags have to be so fucking retarded?
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>>2216771
Shayla the Pink Mouse.

That's some ancient shit, though. That webcomic ended two years ago. But I guess the internet has a long memory. I'm suddenly seeing stuff pop up for Slightly Damned all the time, and I stopped reading that comic ten years ago, too. There was even a guy requesting porn of one of the characters who's been dead in-canon for said ten years.

Man, whenever I feel old, I just think about the weird webcomics that I read in my teens that are STILL GOING.
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>>2247954
*ten years ago

What a weird slipup.
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>>2247896
Am I the only one that can smell the cuntness of an artist just by their art alone?
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>>2248111
Elaborate? Can you provide an example?
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>>2247582
In terms of being automatic, Furaffinity is the only I think that has someone scraping every image. Otherwise their works get archived by someone else via being uploaded to 4chan, paheal, e621, rule34.xxx, exhentai, and other sites. That or someone uses an automatic image ripper for tumblr like tumblr, use an automatic image ripper for gelbooru and similar sites like grabber 4.0.0, or use browser addons to rip images from a gallery (I know there is at least one for pixiv, there is one for exhentai, but that stopped working a while ago).
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>>2248676
tumblripper, TumblOne* ,
forgot the tumblr image ripping programs.
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>know exactly how you want a scene to look
>do a little thumbnail to capture that
>try translating that into a proper perspective drawing
>moving the vanishing point slightly completely changes the composition
>can't get it looking anything like it

Lesson learned, use perspective when doing your thumbnails so you can copy that setup over into the drawing too.
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>>2247954
Bingo.

Here's something nonspecific that I was reminded of in my daily browsings:

>Artist has been around for years.
>Artist's output seems to have reduced in size as time goes on
>Go back to artist's earlier work, no, that's small now too
>Realise artist hasn't replaced their monitor in 15 years (unlike you) and is still saving finals scaled to ~1024x768

Or on a more specific note:

>Artist has good technique.
>But their art is stretched horizontally
>Everyone tells them they're using the wrong resolution on their monitor (fucked up aspect ratio).
>Artist says, "What? No, my art looks fine. You're all nuts."
>Continues for two years, artist manages to become popular despite the stretched look
>Suddenly one day starts outputting properly-aspected work
>Finally figured out the monitor settings and quietly changed them without admitting she'd been doing it wrong for years

Not going to confirm any guesses as to that one because the artist has a marked tendency to turn up EVERYWHERE whenever her name is mentioned and hang around being... herself at people.
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>>2249045
This just sounds painful. Is she, at least, a skilled artist?
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>>2249074
>Artist has good technique.

Yes. Seems to have plateau'd recently, but she's reasonably good.
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>find artist on tumblr
>all she does is generic bubbly tumblrista art
>commission a challenge to draw something outside of comfort zone
W-well, at least she got the head almost right.
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>>2249289
... is that a dress?
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>>2249289
Not sure what you were expecting, if they can't do perspective they're probably not going to do anything with a hard surface very well.
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these threads have become more and more whiney with the time

>buhuuuu the artist doesnt draw only vanilla por/pin ups
>buhu the artist dont cater to my fetish
>buhu the artist does the same thing everytime
>buhuhu the artist changed his direction radically

if you guy are so mad, go and comission them.
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>>2249512
>white-knighting furfag artists

You're not getting a free request, fag-bag.
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>find da artist with good art style
>my fetishes
>only 2 arts
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>>2249562
but it doesnt make any sense you guy are mad the artist no matter what, if he stays doing the same stuff or if he change to another one, if he pander fetishes or just do plain cheessecake.
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>>2249597
I can't really hold a grudge against an artist who is actually improving their work, even if I'm losing out on my favourite fetish. So if they're actively pushing outside their comfort zone? Good. If they did nothing but shift onto a new comfort zone? Bad.

The problem is most artists who stick to a single subject or cater purely to a fetish nearly never push their skills.
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>>2248773
This may sound weird (especially in this thread), but: there's actually no such thing as a "proper" perspective. Every kind of perspective distorts something - or everything, depending on the choice: distances, angles, foreground or background, this and that. Your intended composition may, perhaps, be executed in something different.

No matter what /ic/ says, just don't lock yourself in two-point limbo, because you're not a rendering engine.
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>artist frustration thread
>doesn't dissolve into straight up artist hate thread

It is beyond me how a non furry dedicated board on 4chan is head and shoulders better than the furry board on infinitychan
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>>2249289
Heresy?
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>>2249289
>that one retarded marine all the battle brothers take care of
>ARE WE GOING PURGING TODAY BROTHER? WHEN DO I GET TO BRING THE EMPERORS WRATH TO THE ENEMY
>s-omeday brother.
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>>2209924
Am interested, who is it?
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>>2250847
I've actually got a reasonable understanding of perspective already, most of what I'm fighting with right now is the process. Learning what reference to gather, designing the elements, working out the composition with thumbnails, translating that into a larger drawing etc.

I'm up to attempt number eight on a kitchen scene but each time I've figured out something new so it's not like I'm completely stuck yet.
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>>2182874
>waah we don't want to offend minoritites ^_____^
I fucking hate that, same how they changed chubby to "slightly chubby" for no fucking reason.
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>artist drew some of your favorite art
>but he also drew some of the worst pictures in existence to the point where they become a running gag on furry websites
For christ's sake, cbee
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>>2173735
>good art
>satisfies fetish
>dialogue
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>>2252447
Which ones?
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>>2251184

There is nothing wrong with hating on artists.
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>>2252570
>>2252447
Oh, nevermind, I know which ones you're talking about.
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>this thread

Four words:

LEARN. TO. FUCKING. DRAW.

You lazy autists.
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>>2252988
dumb memeposter
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>>2252988
>meme.com

Opinion Discarded
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>find really hot pic
>has a visible foot in it


i wish feet never existed
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>>2252988
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>>2253232
Anon, I know footfags are the most degenerate scum of the Earth to ever exist, but feet themselves aren't bad if they're not the focus.
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>>2253298
>being even indiffierent to feet


no, you can die too
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>>2253333
Nice quads, but I want you to look down at the ends of your legs.

Personally, full body shots (including feet, so long as they aren't the focus) can work very well.
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>>2251184
A dedicated board attracts dedicated furries. And if history has taught us anything it is that they are the lords of drama.
And that board is nothing compared to lulz.net.
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>>2253381
>i want

look you utter faggot, i could care less what you want, I came here to vent like everyone else yet your not giving them any shit for it. wouldn't surprise me if you actually like feet, you sound like the micropenis sort.

pic related, what you should do
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>>2253745
Did a pair of feet kill your parents or what?
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>>2253779
pussy
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>>2253745
>being this mad
Did you get some chick to give you a footjob and accidentally give your crotch athlete's foot?
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>>2253858
no because im not a disgusting faggot that lets feet near me


and no perfectly calm actually, you're the one who sounds mad that im not a degenerate footfag, not everyone is retarded sorry
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>>2254034
>found the footgenerate

>>2253911
yo, edgemeister sort this asshole out and quit bothering me for a change
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>>2254069
>both posts are mine
r u s e d
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>>2254100
sounds more like your desperate

that or you actually are a micropenis footfag like i suspected from the very beginning. either way you lose, kid.
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>>2254227
>don't have a rabid hatred of feet, but don't care for them sexually at all
>must be a footfag
wew.
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>>2254288
>he's still replying!
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>>2254327
>he responded
You've fallen into my double meta-ironic ruse
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>>2253232
Invest in ghost, snake and merfolk porn.
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>>2254352
>he's still trying to explain himself to me
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>>2252447
Are we talking about that one pic where cbee accidentally outed himself as not actually knowing how female genital anatomy works?
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>>2258193
You mean all of them? The guy was a mediocre artist all round, the only thing he was good at was linework and that was still pretty average.
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>have a qt husbando from a popular game
>every-fucking-body hates him
>no porn of him on pixiv and even regular fanart of him is scarce
>only two pics on rule34, both are average and had to be requested
>there's more art of him on tumblr but most of the artits that bother drawing him have that horrible, fucking gross characteristic tumblr style and/or only draw him being bullied
>his fans on tumblr are of the cancerous type
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>>2260872
I'm talking about the one where he accidentally had a character tell everyone that he thought women pissed out of their birth canals. I think it was a piece of Sabrina Online R34?

The bollocking he got for it was pretty funny.
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>>2261296
Post husbando.
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>not an artist, but commissioner
>get a new super gross fetish that I want to get stuff done of
>can't post it on my account because normalfags will get triggered
>can't post it on an alt, because it'd still feature my characters
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>>2262170
don't laugh
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>>2262412
Why can't you post it on your alt account? You don't want people to know both accounts are yours? That's completely understandable.
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>>2262633
It might be weird to say it, but I guess even though I want this gross fetish stuff of my characters, I'm worried about backlash on both me and my characters.

I guess I care too much about what people on the internet think about me.
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>>2262784
>I guess I care too much about what people on the internet think about me.
That's why I'll post my porn on a few certain places and I'll never reference that on my main accounts. I need to stop worrying about that.
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>>2262412
what's the fetish?


super gross makes me think it's gotta be something that interests my own tastes
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>>2175049
>find good artist
>he deletes all his NSFW art
>because "it would ruin my chances in the industry"
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>>2209138
Ha, sucker! I like his anthro art.

Or well, some of it. Bit hit and miss.
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>>2225571
>tfw can fap to the plethora of poor-quality foot fetish art out there
It's a mixture of liking the ""style"" and lighting a "nostalgic" fire that reminds me of the days when I didn't know where to go for stuff.

Feels great not being bound by the shackles of standards though. I encourage other anons to do the same.
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>>2266867
>>find good artist
>>he deletes all his NSFW art
>>because "it would ruin my chances in the industry"

>Furfag artist thinks he can run from his sordid past and even go professional

Biggest cases of Unrealistic Expectations to date.
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>>2233183
I mean, you can nuke your accounts if you want, but it's still a dick move, as there is absolutely no downside to just abandoning that account and leaving all of your work up.

Also if you do decide to nuke your account, don't be surprised when other people get upset. It's just not particularly polite, especially if you do it without warning.
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>>2266957
>Onta's face hwen
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>>2266957
I'm curious as to why would it be harder for a furshit artist to get into the industry.
Is it that heavily frowned upon, or is it just a case of furry fags having shittier art than required?
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>>2267389
Furfags can fall into a deep hole of degeneracy
Also they can be good but try end up losing whatever talent they had by constantly drawing sparkledogs
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>>2267389
>Is it that heavily frowned upon, or is it just a case of furry fags having shittier art than required?

A little of both, really.
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>>2267414
I see what you mean. Hyper macro gay porn could really soil a portfolio.

>>2267510
At least the lack of skill can be medicated by taking a break of drawing dog dicks and studying other stuff.
It doesn't surprise me that the current industry frowns upon it, but it bugs me a bit. Anthropomorphic characters used to be somewhat common, but I guess the needs of the industry evolves, and artists are expected to produce the stuff that people currently want to see.
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>>2266273
A shit fetish

>>2263052
I might do that, but eh....
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>>2267677
>artists are expected to produce the stuff that people currently want to see.

For example, no one wants another Animal Mascot Platformer, but making 100 more First-Person-Shooters is all the rage.
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>>2267746
As in actual shit?

Elaborate, Stanley. We must know.
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>>2268025
Yes
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>>2232807
>be a fag
>can't take criticism AT ALL
>delete fucking everything
>whine about it on 4chan
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