Old Thread >>5781426
Remember if the fembots don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.
SDCC reveals when?
>>5782526
Is wheeljack the biggest cuck in transformers?
>>5782524
Too much SCIENCE, Wheeljack.
So if I wanted a definitive Voyager sized Prime figure what should I get? The Classics mold's arm kibble and alt mode kill it for me, the only one that's passable is the WFC Prime and that's too damn small.
>>5783779
Theres a Voyager sized KO of MP-10. Assuming it isn't shit (it's brand new, so no real reviews yet), it would be definitive just by virtue of being a scaled down MP.
Every time a new line hits people complain about the "plastic quality". Every time there is an uproar about the "plastic quality" it never amounts to anything. We never see masses of broken toys outside of a few odd occurrences like CW G2 Silverbot's fist hinges.There has yet to be a modern TF toy line were the "plastic quality" amounts to anything more than weird fanboys being weird fanboys.
When is this nonsense going to end?
new thread time already?
>>5783783
do you want me to turn this into an ebin maymay too?
>>5783783
I think the plastics in the main lines feel fine. Only plastic that feels a bit cheaper than the rest is the red plastic of CW Ironhide and Blades. It might just be how that type of plastic feels though? Something about it feels....Off. Compared to the other CW stuff.
pretty stoked now that bisk is announced
>>5783779
Assuming you are not after any Bay, Animated or TF:P aesthetic ones, then your only other voyager is CW beefcake OP.
>>5783802
>What about 3P options? Anything good there or has no one seriously attempted a decent Voyager sized Prime?
There's Fans Toys Orion based on the IDW design but it looks pretty bad and the truck mode suffers for the robot mode's chest gimmick.
Most third parties are about the MP scale now.
>>5783802
There are some 3P's but they're usually MP sized. Theres so many official Optimus' (Optimi?) floating around 3P's usually don't bother with him as much as you'd think, they usually go after side characters or shit we'll never see again officially (gun Megatron, MP Literally Who's, etc).
Some KO's have been fantastic too apparently, so I'd say definitely look into this KO Voyager MP10. Reviews should start popping up within the month I'd think.
>>5783779
If you dig WFC Prime, then maybe Beasthunter Prime, they share some design cues, hes big and chunky, also cheap AF.
>>5783805
From what I'm seeing the matrix chest gimmick makes it's chest too wide. Not a fan of the over-blockiness of it.
>>5783806
Damn, that sucks. I guess I'll wait for reviews to start coming out and hope the quality is decent
>>5783807
I never liked the edgy sharp corners design of him. And his torso is way too thin compared to his gigantic shoulders and arms
>>5783802
I'm hoping the KO MP10 will be good
As for original designs from 3P we have a few, Orion is a really popular one, pairs with his mate Hegemon (but I'm not a big fan of Hegemon honestly). People talk crap on Orion but I'm a big fan of him.
Planet X is making a WFC one which looks really dope, so if Wf/FoC is your thing they're a trusted company for the most part.
There's also Battle Sentinel from Maketoys, its got a smaller figure that power armours into a big version of Laser Optimus. It's pretty old now though, and a lot of people get put off by the whole parts forming thing, but power armour is a taste that a lot of people have for 80s super robot anime so if that's your thing its worth a look.
Other than that, most of the others I can think of are all MP Scale, and besides that most 3P toys in general are of more "literally who" characters that are less likely to get official treatment unlike Optimus and Bumblebee etc.
>>5783820
oh and one more, another company is making an add-on kit for beefimus to make him more standard looking, and it stays on forever once you attach, no taking it off to transform
>>5783820
There's also the DX9 D04 addon that turns AoE OP into some G1-Bay monstrosity...
You know what, just stick to Classics Prime. Arm kibble = boxing gloves.
>>5782526
I really really like this image, Anon.
>>5782524
>another thread before the thread is even past page 5
please fuck off forever
>>5783783
Fall of Cybertron Bruticus, Jazz, and Sideswipe and T30 Blitzwing had objectively the worst non-gold uses of plastic in the entire franchise.
That's more the types and amounts of plastic being used though.
>>5783779
>the only one that's passable is the WFC Prime and that's too damn small
>muh bigger = better maymay
Stupid size queen
>>5783837
Nah.
>>5783783
just for you bby
>>5783845
Has there been a good update for this Megatron?
>>5783703
>>5783694
>>5783687
>>5783662
>>5783771
Nope. Cuck Rod is.
>>5783853
The Legends class tank is about the only proper modern toy based on it, although the G2 Hero version is almost on par with modern toys anyway. That Classics/Universe deluxe isn't even remotely close in design to G2 Megatron, I don't count it. CW isn't the same, either.
Really I only want a straight update to the damn thing- take the original toy and articulate it. Don't change the details, don't add Bayformers greebles, just add articulation. Kill the sound gimmick if necessary but don't fucking alter it more than the articulation.
>>5783853
not really, his original toy is still pretty much the best.
There was a repaint of Bludgeon and that one from Classics, but Blodgeon mold only really works for Blodgeon and the Classics one had a shitty spinning hand gimmick.
>>5782524
Onslaught is my favorite, if only because his proportions are so much cooler than Universe Onslaught.
As good as he was, Universe Onslaught never looked good in poses to me
>>5783878
adding onto to the weird QC issues of this set... Onslaught's right shoulder ratchet doesn't click as loudly as the left, anyone else experience this?
>>5783880
familiar~
>>5783880
Which gun is this?
>>5783889
FP Colossus' shotgun
>>5783890
Wish one of 3rd parties would sell these guns separately. I'd love to have them for my UW Bruticus.
>>5783883
That remold is just begging to happen, but I highly doubt it ever will.
>>5783895
>Wish one of 3rd parties would sell these guns separately
you're in luck! the Guild of Concoctionous Intent made recasts of this gun. check it out:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/989674-fp-weapon-set-colossus-shotguns.html
>>5782535
Probably around the time of SDCC. Of course those attention whores will probably reveal all a week before.
>>5783783
Fuck off and die, Cheets.
>>5783903
It looks like he wont be making and selling them anymore.
If I should get one titan master from this wave, which one should it be? Other than Skullsmasher, cus I'm already getting him for sure.
>>5783923
Do you want the itty bitty heads or the deluxes or the voyagers
>>5783924
Anything but the heads by themselves.
>>5783923
Nightbeat because he has that "EEK I HAVE NO BODY" expression.
>>5783783
>>5783925
Hardhead.
>>5783837
I made this thread by accident, I didn't realize someone had started one a few minutes before me.
still I find it fascinating someone decided to make it the next general.
kind of amusing only 3 posts were from yesterday.
![[CAN'T WAKE UP].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lvcaf8D.jpg "[CAN'T WAKE UP].jpg")
>>5783926
Hey guys; much like Nightbeat I am currently stuck in a vortex of eternal torment. Do I get TR Blaster, or PMOP? I've heard Blaster is better, but I intend to get Soundwave anyway and don't have Ultra Magnus. Thoughts?
>>5783936
fixed it for you
>>5783936
>>5783944
someone should do a Prowl version of this.
>>5783944
also I made a new reaction pic for yall
>>5783957
>>5783914
not that dude but it's probably this (posting in both threads just to make sure)
Can we take a moment to talk about how shit last year's sdcc reveals were? Wasn't it literally just "betatron" and victorion?
>>5783971
Yep, don't know why everybody is expecting big reveals.
The plastic that Scourge is made from looks worryingly like it'll suffer from GPS. Look at those swirls and sparkles.
The molding looks really shit too. Just look at poor Blaster's face.
Seriously, look at the poor sod in head mode, he looks like he was made in a cheap 3D printer. Seriously, I've had Shapeways stuff that looks better than this.
>>5783977
I don't think we've had any tfs with swirly non-gold/brown plastic break gps style. Just look at the gray plastic Hasbro's used for years.
Then you have Prime, who combines really awful looking plastic with an absolute atrocity of a facesculpt.
>>5783987
Yeah, I seriously hope I'm wrong. But given the recent decline in quality across the board, and just how visibly cheap and nasty the plastic looks (even if it isn't GPS-prone it still looks pretty wanky) I am worried.
I could have sworn there were some figures that didn't use gold/brown plastic but suffered from GPS all the same though?
>>5783960
this is great.
thanks so much.
>>5783988
You're reaching with this one.
>>5783977
I'm not worried about GPS, but all of this sparkly stuff and the dull gray they use really ruin the figures for me.
>>5783989
Not that I know of.
>>5783996
I really wonder how CW G2 Slingshot will fare in a few years.
>>5782526
Holy shit. Saved.
Reposting from the last thread (not my pic) for anyone who wants their Galvatron to not suck.
>>5784000
Waste of trips desu senpai
>>5783802
It's not out yet, but Maketoys has pic related coming out soon. Iirc it's about the size of CW Prime but absurdly posable. Ab crunch, double knees, the whole shebang. Kinda looks like Classics OP with a Brave/Super Robot aesthetic. Alt-mode is pretty bad, but I don't mind it.
There will also be some sort of add-on released for it to make him Powermaster, no good pictures of that yet though.
Maketoys has a really good track record so you wouldn't have to worry about qc, but they are known for fiddly/complex transformations so keep that in mind.
>>5784005
>caring about trips
>2016
Also, contrary to belief, this isn't /b/.
>>5784004
How did you do it?
>>5784009
I didn't, it's not my picture. By the looks of things there's quite a lot of cutting involved so BE CAREFUL.
>>5784007
The robot mode looks decent but the vehicle mode is as JUST as it gets
I don't mind fiddleforming, sometimes I actually like them
Should I buy universe prowl? I liked the hound and sunstreaker from the line.
Why do people constantly sperg about diecast and rubber wheels on TFs when they age like milk?
>>5783809
Are you sure you're not thinking of the regular voyager Optimus? That other anon was talking about Beast Hunters Optimus, who's a chunky beefcake from head to toe, and he'd be my recommendation too. Wish the Hasbro version had gone with trans blue plastic instead of green though, like the Takara version.
>>5783916
That's a shame. I wonder why 3rd parties haven't done 5mm weapon packs? It'd be a nice way for us to get some generic guns for toys that don't have any or whose official weapons are lacking.
>>5783806
"Toys of Optimus." It's a proper noun so it shouldn't be pluralized- however if you were to pluralize it, being an English word I'd say "Optimuses" would be more correct, but the classic Latin plural would be "Optimi." "Optimus'" with the apostrophe means "belonging to Optimus," it is not a way to pluralize it.
A couple threads ago people were talking about a WWII Transformers toyline (which would basically be everything I could ever want). They said Megatron should be a tank, but how could you possibly want that over a Megatron that turns into Luger pistol?
Also I'm not super big on the Decepticons=Axis thing (Autobots=Allies makes sense though) so I wouldn't mind seeing Decepticons disguising themselves as "good guy" vehicles. I needs me a squadron of Seeker Mustangs (or if they have to be Axis, some Messerschmitts would suffice).
>>5784017
>Why do people constantly sperg about diecast and rubber wheels on TFs when they age like milk?
Because they don't. Not everybody lives in a desert or bangs their toys together.
>>5784014
>Universe Prowl
The US version has sticky paint on the doors. They will turn brown from handling. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Japanese version (TF United or Henkei) didn't have that problem. Never did get a straight answer on whether Hasbro bothered to fix that on Bluestreak or Smokescreen.
>>5784020
>I wonder why 3rd parties haven't done 5mm weapon packs?
Because all of the 3rd parties are Chinese and Chinese have no creativity.
>>5784040
Hearts of Steel Megs is a cannon.
>>5784042
>Because all of the 3rd parties are Chinese and Chinese have no creativity.
No one is this retarded right?
>>5784040
I for one prefer tank Megatron. Also, he already turns into a (modified) Walther P38, so if he were gonna be a gun he wouldn't even need to change his altmode to fit in with the theme. Plus, the King Tiger is just cool. Alternatively he could be an SS command half-track.
I do agree that Mustang Seekers (and "allied" Deceps in general) would be neat, perhaps with Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge being Vought Corsairs. Though I reckon Panzerknacker Stukas would be cool too, mainly because they had sod-off huge anti-tank guns under their wings that could form their arm-cannons.
Pew pew pew
It's clobberin' time!
Grape ape. Grape ape.
>>5784050
This little dude reminds me of Armada Demolisher for some reason. I really dig that tank mold in general and if I didn't have to buy them with the Headmasters I'd buy a bunch of them.
>>5784020
A good source of generic weapons are the Construct-bots from the earlier G1-based series. The Beast Hunters and AoE ones abandon 5mm pegs entirely.
>>5784060
Holy fugg, what is that axe?
>>5784063
That axe came with that TF:Adventure Optimus you see the same pic.
>>5784055
Does he stay latched on to the gorilla well?
>>5784055
But what if there is a Grapier ape?
>>5784067
Yeah, he's got the double foot pegs on his back. I wish the ape mode was the combined mode and the jet mode was The one he rode on though.
>>5784050
Definately gonna pick this one up.
I'm actually surprised at how much better the Titan Masters got in Wave 2.
>>5784040
>They said Megatron should be a tank, but how could you possibly want that over a Megatron that turns into Luger pistol?
Because, realistically speaking, a tank is far more feasible than a gun in every conceivable way?
They have more mass from which to get a humanoid robot from, they don't need to be painted in ridiculous day-glow colors to be sellable, and there are so many different models from all sides that you could actually pick one that works best as a Megatron rather than try to shoehorn him into an alt mode that you'd be hard-pressed to get any decent figure out of, let alone one that's supposed to be Megatron, for no other reason than "MUH GEEWUN".
Seriously, guns suck for making Transformers. You either have to resort to shell-forming bullshit like Classics Megs, fiddly and over-complicated bullshit like every third-party attempt at a gun Megatron, or you have to settle for a shitty looking robot mode like the Masterpiece.
>>5784090
If you were just gonna get 1, I would get Flywheels. And then in order of my favorites: Apeface, Grimlock, and Loudmouth.
>>5784046
That's why half their output is straight bootlegs and for most of the rest they all jump on the same preexisting characters at the same time, right?
>>5784093
Oh my god, you're one of those assholes shitting on FT Perceptor fir being too "heroic" and ruined forever because his shoulders are a millimeter too wide, aren't you?
So because you're unpleasable, we've got to throw out an entire category of alternate modes?
>>5784101
>That's why half their output is straight bootlegs
Oh yes, knocking off more developed countries totally isn't a thing that every developing nation goes through
>and for most of the rest they all jump on the same preexisting characters at the same time
They're called "third party transformers" for a reason, no?
>>5784107
So how creative is it to duplicate a product wholesale or go "me too!" in choosing your next product?
>>5784107
>gee, what should I make?
>I know, more Dinobots and Constructicons, just like everybody else
>dur hur I r so creative and unique
>>5784101
This coming from a /pol/ faggot that does nothing but repaint toys into other copyrighted characters because he's too lazy to get a real job.
Is this guy any good? I love the look of him and Cybertron was generally a super solid line but I seem to recall he has some common assembly error or something, though I could be completely wrong there.
>>5784122
Fucking Alt Eisen. Claymores and Guns all over.
It's a little dated though, look at the short stubby arms.
>>5784122
Mine was perfectly fine.
Also a lovely figure.
>>5784113
>>5784115
I never implied there was anything creative about knocking off. I only said it was a phase every developing country goes through.
It's not about the character that's important, it's the interpretation. It's exactly the same as jazz standards. Go listen to John Coltrane's original recording of My Favorite Things, then go listen to the version on Live at the Village Vanguard Again!. Both are the same original source song but they sound ridiculously different. And they're from the same damn artist too.
Hasbro's getting what they used to do to others, I see no problem here.
>>5784122
I have the Roadbuster version. He's one of my favorites of all time. He's chunky and has a ton of cool gimmicks. The biggest problem is that he's not got thigh swivels and stuff, so he feels super retro. Other than that though he's perfect.
Wish he had some guns though. Though I did accidentally end up with one with an 3P add-on kit that had a rifle and a different head when a seller didn't know what they had.
>>5784106
>Oh my god, you're one of those assholes shitting on FT Perceptor fir being too "heroic" and ruined forever because his shoulders are a millimeter too wide, aren't you?
No, because that would require me to :
1.) Know that thing even existed before you brought it up
2.) Give a shit about Perceptor
Neither of those was the case, though I'm almost tempted to start shitting on it now simply because of how assmad you seem to be about it.
>So because you're unpleasable, we've got to throw out an entire category of alternate modes?
An entire category of alt modes that, in over thirty years, has only really be used by ONE character, in ONE incarnation, that has long since been replaced by something far more practical and feasible? An entire category of alt modes that, despite thirty years of advancements in design and engineering, nobody has been able to make a workable Transformer out of without the robot sucking, the alt mode sucking, or the transformation itself sucking in a way that severely detracts from the product?
Yes, clearly the problem is that I am "unpleasable", and not the fact that realistic guns are ridiculously difficult to get any decent figure out of, to the point of being more trouble than it's worth. Yup.
>>5784122
aside from the arms, I think he's fantastic.
the car Hot Shot's arms worked a lot better though the leg articulation on the Defense version is better.
>>5784048
Yeah, his original Walther P38 mode could still fit in the setting, but the Luger is like THE Nazi pistol, it'd be cool to see him in that form.
>Corsair Coneheads
Anon, don't tease me like that
>>5784093
We're talking a hypothetical dream toyline here, he has a hypothetical perfect gun transformation in my dreams. And I'm by no means a geewunner, I grew up during Armada and didn't really get into the franchise until Prime; I just like Megatron being a gun because I like the idea of the leader of the evil war men turning into the basest killing machine, coupled with how I like him having such gravitas that he forces his underlings to use him- it shows how much dominance he has over them when he can turn himself completely to their mercy and still control them.
MP megatron 2.0 when?
...do you guys think they're even discussing this right now at the their meetings or have they collectively given up on a decent mp megatron?
I could be a dick and point out the line art in the generations packaging designs depicting a different looking megatron but I then remind myself a bumblebee was also there and look at what we recently got, also its hasbro packaging so that's out of here...also for ausbros
>MP shockwave is in toys r us systems
After hearing news some Australian stores had mp ultra magnus for $120aud (clearance pricing, but he's not online nor in their systems, meaning he's gone for good) I had the staff look into their sku system, I can't remember the price but did laugh they still had acid storm in their systems for $65
>>5784172
My guess is they don't want to bother with that headache again and they'll just consider the original to be good enough and any of the various leaders that have come out in the meantime to be your 2.0
>>5784171
Damn, Luger Megatron sounds awesome. I do prefer tank modes but that sounds cool af
>>5784175
But they designed that thing in less than 20 days...why not spend a bit more time and research it?
Though I guess the whole gun thing limits exportation
Found this, someone really wanted to fill out menasor's back, so he had offroad fill it in
>>5784182
Another victim of "hanging on for dear life" fan modes
>>5784172
I think just about every major 1984-86 character has had an MP version/redo MP discussed, its just that Takara wants to keep the line going for the next decade and knows that, for all the people that cry about them dragging their feet or not doing the right characters in time, they'll still buy the official MP when it eventually comes out.
>>5783779
While he's TFP styled, considering the Classics line has ranged from Classics Mirage, to Universe Hound, to Generations Springer, to everything in between, I don't think he looks that off in a collection. He has his faceplate and not the silly baby face he had most of the time on the show. He has a great, clever transformation, a very ice amount of articulation, and overall is a really cool figure that doesn't get enough love.
So what are the best Laserbeak and Buzzsaw I can get to go with the United Scout Rumble and Frenzy? I like these redecos of Divebomb but they were super limited Botcon things.
>>5784191
There's a GDO Laserbeak repaint of Skystalker.
>>5784191
Those are pretty much your only options sadly. Worth it if you can find them for sensible prices though, the mold is fantastic and the colours work well.
>>5784191
First Bay movie had a Laserbeak that transformed into 21st century music playing device used by the ancients.
>>5784191
Forgot to mention that I have the Scourge retool into Ratbat, and I guess I need a Ravage too.
>>5784191
Also all of these.
>>5784190
>the Classics line has ranged from Classics Mirage, to Universe Hound, to Generations Springer, to everything in between, I don't think he looks that off in a collection
I totally agree. There's a lot of room for aesthetics mixing in CHUG.
>>5784200
Energon Ravage is a pretty good toy, not the most poseable but certainly passable.
>that "water" effect piece
It's like they wanted it to be used as a cumshot accessory. Why did they make it so cloudy?
>>5784206
Senpai!
>>5784206
I'll use that on arcee.
Arcee gushing all over Springer's face.
And cuck rod cries in a corner.
>>5784206
because straight up clear doesn't well as water and clear blue is too blue.
I think its more going for the "foam" look, if I recall g1 correctly (which i can be wrong) it came out white, and he was able to shoot out straight foam
>>5784191
Energon Divebomb is an amazing mold.
>>5784200
Arms Micron Jida works as small ravage.
This black one comes with Zombie Cliffjumper, there's a single-packed red one.
>>5784217
I don't doubt it, and I'd love to have a Laserbeak and Buzzsaw that use it, but not for upwards of 200 clapbux
>>5784204
Hell, even the first Classics line didn't entirely look like they where designed cohesively. Starscream was designed like a straight G1 update, Megatron felt more like a Unicron trilogy style figure with his anime proportions, Jetfire was done in a really bulky comic book style, and Mirage was hyper stylized. Hell, people where so amazed with Mirage's articulation back then they took to calling him an honorary Revoltech(which was also impressive back then)
>>5784161
>An entire category of alt modes that, in over thirty years, has only really be used by ONE character, in ONE incarnation, that has long since been replaced by something far more practical and feasible? An entire category of alt modes that, despite thirty years of advancements in design and engineering, nobody has been able to make a workable Transformer out of without the robot sucking, the alt mode sucking, or the transformation itself sucking in a way that severely detracts from the product?
>Yes, clearly the problem is that I am "unpleasable", and not the fact that realistic guns are ridiculously difficult to get any decent figure out of, to the point of being more trouble than it's worth. Yup.
>Megatron
>Shockwave
>Browning
>one character
>G1 cartoon
>G1 comic
>DW comic
>IDW comic (yes, before The Wacky Adventures of Co-Captain Rodimus and Political Bickering starring Starscream and Geisha-Bot)
>one incarnation
Look, I get it, you're so butthurt over not getting yet another non-descript space thing Megatron that every gun toy, past and present, is a personal affront to you.
>Hasbro can't make a good gun robot
>impossible
You know, people whine about jet modes too. Abloobloobloo robots bits underneath abloobloobloo. Clearly every jet should be a helicopter instead. Because reasons. And, hey, let's get the scale autists in on this and never have a motorcycle again either. Don't forget the anti-MicroChange Bridage who can't stand tape decks, microscopes, or anything else without wheels.
Then we want to whine about creativity after you rule out everything but sedans, pickups, H-tanks, and helicopters.
>>5784180
>gun thing limits exportation
That's pretty much it. It's not so much that it's not feasible to design, it not feasible to sell. Time will tell though, and I'd love to be proven wrong.
>>5784171
>We're talking a hypothetical dream toyline here, he has a hypothetical perfect gun transformation in my dreams.
Good for you, but hypothetical scenarios don't mean jack shit if you have to disregard how things would actually work in the scenario to the point that it's basically completely detached from reality. That's just pure fantasy, and if you're going that far you may as well say he's also going to be made completely of cheese and feature lights and sounds that are powered, not by batteries, but by hopes and dreams.
> him having such gravitas that he forces his underlings to use him- it shows how much dominance he has over them when he can turn himself completely to their mercy and still control them.
I'm sorry, but that reasoning will never stop sounding utterly retarded to me. If you're the leader of an army built entirely upon deceit, betrayal, and the ideals of "survival of the fittest" and "might makes right", the last thing you would EVER do is place yourself at the mercy of anyone else, because that would require trust, which completely flies in the face of what your army is built upon. When your troops are a bunch of evil, scheming, backstabbing assholes, some of whom openly express their desire to kill or overthrow you at the first chance they're given, you would have to be a complete moron to EVER give them that chance, and if you do and they don't take advantage of it, it has nothing to do with how much control you have over them and everything to do with them being even more retarded than you are.
That, or you're all being written for an 80's cartoon for five year olds, who generally don't think much about shit like that.
>>5784232
Not him, but myself I dislike Megatron as a gun because he's the leader of he Decepticons. Him having to be held by an underling to be useful in alt mode is kinda dumb. A tank just makes more sense. Shockwave I'm cool with being a gun (though I still prefer him as a vehicle, like an artillery piece or a satellite) but Megatron? The dude needs to be capable of doing shit on his own without having to be held by Starscream.
>>5784242
Megatron was most likely chosen because he looked cool and had a evil kinda look, and being made into a giant kids cartoon they needed something to push his faction, modern day megatron SHOULD be a tank, or least a cannon, but for a mp its gotta be p38 or a mp g2 megatron (which doesn't work since all mp's are based on animation models with retools being retoolings of said animation model toys).
Shockwave I prefer to think of as a cannon in g1 due to a lack of size shifting even though his old toy was a space gun.
Thankfully the g1 show much like cartoons didn't need full on accuracy or any kinda realism, infact megatron did fine without transforming and when he did was kinda shoe horned in just to remind people he does transform.
>>5784227
I was wondering why this seemed familiar.
But this has nothing to do with transformer toys, inferno, it only relates to how the water accessory looks like cum which is as repeatable as inferno is a fire truck and 911 had fire trucks in it.
Therefore it isn't funny, strange as fuck but I'm some dude surrounded by a sea of plastic crack, I have other priorities.
Now someone post some arcee pics for my head cannon, anything will cleanse the palette
>>5784232
Also SixShot and Galvatron.
Nevertheless, when a real designer at Takara says it's impossible, not some senior executive designtologist associate at Hasbro, hoplophobe or consumerist manchild that isn't happy with the majority of Megatron toys being non-guns (abloobloobloo I want all the toys my way mommy abloobloobloo), says so, then I'll consider the practicality and not a second before.
>>5784240
Jesus Christ, man. Pull the stick out of your ass, you are way too serious about a tongue-in-cheek discussion about toys.
>>5784261
Anon, I was enjoying reading that.
>>5784274
>>5784274
I did say anything but not this, don't get smart with me.
I don't like black, its the gun or a white repaint
>>5784277
So did I until I realize its inferior to arcee, the best transgender
>>5784242
I'm just saying I don't get where all of the butthurt comes from. They make every single non-G1 Megatron a tank, a car, a truck, or some non-descript future/space blob. But when anybody says, hey, what about a gun like the original, they flip their shit.
But then the biggest problem with this fandom is that it's internalized that "the only constant is change" bullshit. The same people crying about Megatron as a gun are the same people crying that another truck Optimus is boring or that Bumblebee shouldn't be yellow anymore or it's OK for everybody to be a headmaster/ or combiner or triplechanger or not. Everything has to change for the sake of change or they fly into a rage. And most of these shit-stirrers aren't even buying the toys; they're posting "oy vey $15 for a deluxe?! if I splurge on such luxury I'll have to eat unsalted dirt for the rest of my life!!"
>>5784280
They're as bad as the Steven Universe SJWs. Poorfags with big mouths.
>>5784279
Is ironhide sucking prime's cock?
>>5784280
shut up cuck
gun mode is shit swiped from an aborted toyline and makes no sense
>>5784279
Think you missed an opportunity to making Prime into Shattered Glass.
>>5784280
>2016
>literally being a geewunner
when will your obesity related heart disease finally kill you
Kinda funny we're having this issue, when the only reason Megatron and Optimus's toys were choses was because they where the biggest toys they could bring over in ealy 1984. had they waited a few months more, they would've made Jetfire and Shockwave leaders. Which would be another can of worms entirely(an Optimus that could never look like his G1 version, and a Megatron that would be a gun, but a space gun). Still, They would've made much cooler leaders,imo.
>>5784232
>discussion on why realistic gun modes don't work well for Transformers
>cites Shockwave, a space laser gun whose entire transformation is "bends over and holds arms over head".
As for Browning, fine. TWO characters in thirty years. Boy, did you ever show me. My point has been completely refuted by the addition of a Japan-only figure that been revised in any way since 1988.
Also:
>cartoon and all the comics
>The Megatron that turns into a gun still looks like the Megatron that turns into a gun still looks like the Megatron that turns into a gun
So, basically, in response to my main point that realistic guns suck for making transforming robot figures, the best you can come back with is nitpicking over shit that is irrelevant to the main point, followed by a whole lot of strawmanning.
Gee, I sure do feel proven wrong by all these things you said that do absolutely nothing to prove me wrong.
/tfg/ is like Cheers only instead of alcohol there's shitposting.
>>5784122
still wish he was a voyager as originally intended... even the cartoon had him the same height as the other two Elite Guards
>>5784314
That works, too.
Is this dude any good? I know he shelfwarmed hard, but he looks pretty cool IMO.
>Captcha- Select all the construction vehicles
>>5784020
Iron Factory releases usually have 5mm port weapon packs with them. Their Ultra Magnus has 2 weapon packs even.
Some of their releases don't have those packs though.
>>5784339
He has quite a unique look and THAT FUCKING LONG SWORD. Much recommended.
Only issue is the kibble but that is common during that period.
Wheelie + Loudmouth = Anti-Aircraft Gun for base modes
>>5784352
Wheelie say you die today!
>>5782526
Thanks for the reminder Red.
>>5784306
I think these comic panel edits are the start of a great new meme.
>>5784339
I prefer his Erector redeco, but a decent figure. Wish they'd made his arm-panels more complex, the cannon arm is especially dull.
>>5784339
He's the only canon Quebecois Transformers.
>>5784352
>>5784354
>Every good looking Nemesis Prime is an exclusive and goes for stupid money on the aftermarket
>Every affordable Nemesis Prime is a KO or otherwise shite
At this point I might as well make my own. Fireburst Optimus Prime would need very little paintwork to make a good Nemesis, what with his satanic fiery deco. Energon Landmine is another option but that would require a new head, more disassembly/painting and the figure is more expensive to begin with. Plus I don't really fancy sacrificing an Energon Landmine.
I just realized the tiny tabs on the Headmasters' bodies are meant for the head-bots to stand on.
>>5784409
Is the bendy prime expensive on the after market?
>>5784423
The Nemesis Prime version is, at least in the UK. Now granted I could theoretically get a normal Prime and repaint him...but that doesn't solve the problem of him being too small.
>>5784304
Oh, so now the goalposts move from "guns don't work" to "realistic guns don't work."
Keep being assblasted over a handful of gun-based Megatrons. I laugh every time we come back to G1 and you have to piss and moan on a Vietnamise papercraft board.
>>5784289
>>5784294
By all means, keep being a fan of a toy line that you don't like and keep trying to change into something else you won't like because your of that lethal cocktail ADD and autism you call your brain.
>>5784409
Fireburst looks more like the Fallen, if he was a truck.
>>5784423
He used to be until the wind shifted and the herd decided to hate the toy for being too G1 or not having wrist articulation.
>>5784214
Let it never be said /toy/ doesn't deliver.
>>5784445
Just a shame what it delivers is terrible.
>>5784456
Sorry Anon. I just pick and choose random dumb shit to do with my figures based on what I see in the threads. If it makes me smile or sounds retarded as fuck, theres more of a chance I'll try to enact it.
>>5784423
I miss that tan/bone colour on Nemesis Primes.
CW Ultra Magnus or CW Sky Lynx?
I'm poor.
>>5784560
Ultra Magnus. Not because I am a tranny but because minius benis is kawai as fuck ;)
>>5784560
Ultra Magnus. CW Skylynx is a QC shithole, wait to see if the UW version unfucks him so you don't have to take him apart to fix his floppy ass.
>>5784560
Neither. Ultra Magnus is a hollow, flimsy sack of shit with a pointless minifigure inside that can't even stay inside the cab for vehicle mode. Sky Lynx meanwhile is a floppy QC abortion that is inferior to the G1 toy in every way.
>>5784563
Benis, the guy who writes comic book books?
>>5784591
Yes. Benis, the writer?
>>5783783
I think the plastic is fine but the figures just have no weight to them
>>5783793
gotta say that some of the decepticons from RID feel like a breath of fresh air
>>5784568
Truth.
>>5783878
universe onslaught is an excellent figure and can easily be used for another character
>>5783923
apeface or skytread
>>5784601
What about deluxes and voyagers?
>>5783923
If you're only getting one and it's already skullcruncher, why ask which one you should get?
>>5783982
who is that?
>>5784618
That's supposed to be Blaster.
Supposed to be.
>>5784610
I've only got Hardhead, so get Hardhead.
>>5783893
I'm think of just getting the Hasbro set and modifying whatever I don't like. I'd be saving money and improving a skill.
No idea what could be done with Vortex, though. The lack of 2 rotors is annoying and the colors are full-on clowntown.
>>5784631
*I'm thinking
>>5784610
Blurr is pretty fun if you can get past the color. Super articulated and a fun chest cavity thing for Krang action.
If the colors do bug you that much, get the Takara one. Looks insanely good. Or get both and give the Hasbro one a new head.
>>5784635
I'm considering what an anon mentioned before and painting Hasbro Blurr into cybertronian Nightbeat. The blue plastic matches on both of them.
>>5784635
When is Tak Blur supposed to be released? Him and Scourge are the only things worth getting from the Tak releases.
>>5784635
Wowee, so that's what effort looks like.
>>5784568
>flimsy
Wut?
>>5784568
>a pointless minifigure inside that can't even stay inside the cab for vehicle mode
I bet you think the unarticulated MP is better since you can't even handle a children's toy properly.
>>5784635
Anyone else finds funy how Takara TR Blurr match Hasbro Gen Blurr and Hasbro TR Blurr looks like Takara Gen Blurr?
>>5783971
I guess they'll show Deathsaurus and confirm the leaked figures (Deluxe Rodimus, Getaway, Doublecross and Triggerhappy, Voyager Megatron and Star Convoy, Leader Sixshot)
>>5784610
I'd get takara scourge unless you see hasbro's really cheap, skullsmasher looks good too, aswell as astrotrain
>>5784694
>tfw there won't be a toy panel this year because of those assholes leaking everything
>>5784717
>gets more info from leakers than you'd ever get from some shit ass, slow, drip fed official source
Fine by me.
>>5784568
>pointless mini figure
Nigger what. You mean the character that actually represents what Magnus looks like under his armor?
Sometimes in these threads I see an anon with some kind of mechanical looking, grey floor/backdrop.
What is that?
>>5784724
>Why does Hasblow never make Ultra Magnus that power armours from a smaller white Optimus figure!!!
>fucking IDW ruining Magnus with this bullshit power armour crap, stupid figure ruins this toy even though it can be tossed out with no effect!!!
genwunner logic
>>5784735
not sure who you mean exactly, but chances are it's this, gundam chain base, everyone uses them
>>5784724
/co/ please leave.
>>5784739
Yeah, that looks like it's it. Are those things any good just for display/picture taking purposes?
>>5784736
Line that goes full anime with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus where the smallest body is XMaster and largest is a semi truck, two trailers, and an A-10 when?
>>5784736
Which is funny because in Geewun Ultra Magnus was explicitly not a White Prime.
It's always funny to see them demand toy accuracy, then turn around and declare Takara for cartoon accuracy. The gnashing of teeth over MP Soundwave's yellow eyes was brilliant.
>So what if I paid 300 for the same set that you can get for 1/3rd of the price? Mine has ACCURATE red eyes and I didn't want the tapes anyway so mine is cheaper.
>Takara wins agaiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
>>5784745
yeah man, they're pretty rad and make a solid generic background, Vangelus and a few other reviewers use them, so if you watch their videos you can get a good idea of what they're like.
Also fyi they come in pieces, so if you want a sizable play area you need to buy a couple, but there are different ones too, so you can get some variety.
They can be expensive on the aftermarket since they're so popular though
search ebay for Mechanical Chain Base and get an idea.
I know you can also buy some blown up dioramas of G1 cartoon backgrounds like Teletran as well, not sure where to buy them from though.
>>5784752
I swear that Shockwave changes color in every photo someone takes of it.
>>5784747
Oh shut the fuck up, you're just as bad as them.
>>5784756
Chameleonwave!
>>5784746
never know how good we have it till it's gone...
>>5784763
>go to my parents' house
>all I can find is the Mini-Con
:(
>>5784763
If we got a re-release of it with a new less janky supermode head I'd be 100% into it. Maybe like a star convoy head.
>>5784764
some of those minicons were so dope, I'd love to get a deluxe of this guy
>>5784763
Armada would've been great if they could articulate worth a damn.
>>5784770
srsly, the whole UT would've been god tier if the characters weren't bricks, it's like the gimmick riddled step child between G1 and BW
>>5784736
>Why does Hasblow never make Ultra Magnus that power armours from a smaller white Optimus figure!!!
Joke's on you, I never wanted a power-armoured Ultra Magnus. And even if I did, there's the Classics figure with FP's set for that.
>fucking IDW ruining Magnus with this bullshit power armour crap, stupid figure ruins this toy even though it can be tossed out with no effect!!!
>can be tossed out with no effect!!!
What, aside from the gaping hole beneath Magnus' head?
>genwunner logic
Kek, I hate GEEWUNners m88. Personally I'm probably going with the Animated figure with a new head, as it's better engineered, has better plastic and looks better in general.
Here's the thing. "Power armour" Magnus just doesn't work, at least with HasTak level engineering. You have to have a fully-functional white Optimus Prime figure that can be armoured up into a fully functional Ultra Magnus, said armour being required to also transform into a car transporter trailer, which even with Ultra Magnus' weird sci-fi trailer that looks nothing like a real car carrier, is not easy.
Let's list off the G1 Magnus attempts shall we?
>G1 Ultra Magnus. Used "power armour" feature. Was great for its time but useless for anything other than vintage display.
>FP City Commander set. OK robot mode but limited articulation, tonnes of partsforming and a vehicle mode that doesn't look a whole lot like Ultra Magnus.
>Citizen Stack. Has a fairly faithful vehicle mode and somewhat over-greebled but still recognizable robot mode, but due to engineering constraints has no inner robot.
>MP UM. Same as Citizen Stack except far more on the model. Still no inner robot.
>Iron Factory City Commander. Same as MP/Stack except really small.
>CW UM. Vehicle and Robot modes are more IDW than G1 but still fairly on-model. Instead of an actual inner robot they have Minimus Ambus, who looks nothing like UM's inner robot form unless you read Sad Gay Robots, and can't even stay in the cab in robot mode
>>5784781
[continued]
So yeah. The inner robot gimmick just doesn't work. If it did, the MP would have had it. I wouldn't even mind Minimus Ambus if it weren't for the fact he can't stay in the cab in vehicle mode (and the fact that without him, Magnus' head is floating).
And that's not even touching on the weak and thin plastic, the overall hollowness, the lack of ankle tilts (which are a necessity at this size) and his inability to even hold his own weapons.
>>5784724
Magnus was never a character under armor until Dreamwave's abortion comic.
>>5784771
Energon Decepticons and Cybertron were great.
>>5784302
>when the only reason Megatron and Optimus's toys were choses was because they where the biggest toys they could bring over in ealy 1984
Got a citation on that? '84 Soundwave is bigger than Megatron, and it looks like he was one of the early ideas for Decepticon leader, as the symbol matches his face.
>>5784735
If you ask the owner of SirToys, he'll get you best prices on the chain bases which can be hard to find outside of ebay. You'll need to buy a few though to make the shipping worth it.
ReproLabels / ToyHax has the teletraan and etc printed backgrounds and floors.
>>5784835
Why not both?
>>5783802
There's a knock off MP-10 Prime at Voyager scale, Maketoy's Cross dimension thingy, and Planet X FOC Prime on the third party front. Plus the Voyager Prime Kits for CW Prime that may or may not ever come out.
There's more, but everything else is either MP scaled or Legends scaled.
>>5784853
Who is making the Voyager MP10?
>>5784857
KuBianBao.
Anyone else think the Legend to Deluxe scale is the best for just fooling around with figures? I do like the occasional bigger one, but these seemed the best sized to just fool around with.
Probably doesn't hurt that theres so many good Legends figures.
>>5784781
>ambus minimum looks nothing like Magnus's inner robot
Except he is literally his inner robot.
Next you'll be saying Hasbro's Bruticus is more G1 because Bruticus has a silver chest.
>>5784888
Toy wise yeah, i prefer toy accuracy than toon accuracy, spent more time with the toys then the show.
>>5784787
It's totally possible to do a inner and outer magnus, the reason why we haven't seen it yet it is cost and no one with enough engineering cojones has tried it.
I paid $21 for this fucker whose ass keeps falling off just to complete my collection. The worst part is I actually had him MISB a few years ago, but I sold it for $7 shipped. Fuck me.
>>5784864
yes
and now with IF announcing their sixshot, i might just indulge alittle more on legends
