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The Blitzwing Blitzkrieg Edition.
Old thread: >>5739086
Now less of a slab with wings.
And no visible front facing head.
Good Galvatron when?
>>5754285
When Takara makes the MP in 202X
>>5754199
>another blitzwing
>FT
>TFW I preordered DX9
Im torn on what Iron Factory stuff to get.
I could get the Prowl and Co set, AND a city commander, or I could wait and save up a little more to be able to get the Dinobot set.
I really want both, but i know if I don't save up for the dinobot thing my chances of being able to get it wont be good til like, late october (birthday)
So what's everybodies opinion on the best third party team of constructions?
>>5754504
Get Datsun Bros and whatever flavour of City Commander you prefer and then realize you're in for everything else Iron Factory makes.
>>5754870
Depends on what you're looking for. None are perfect and they each have upsides and downsides.The only one relatively faithful or accurate is DX9 Legends sized Hulkie and to some degree the fuckhuge Toyworld constructor.
Maketoy's and Generation Toy's are stylized. TFC Hercules is like Cybertron figures combining with energon ports but can still hold up.
I went with Generation Toy because I like what they did with the vehicle detailing and the dynamic bots. I had a Giant before but I felt he was a bit too wimpy in the arms.
>>5754504
If you don't mind buying loose, you can usually find one of the Datsun bros for $30ish on eBay. City Commander is amazing too. But if you get one thing, follow your own advice and save up for those godly Dynobots.
>>5754870
Generation toy personally. QC is top notch but as an above poster mentioned they are kinda stylized in their own way. Constructor partsforms too hard for my tastes and giant and Hercules are a bit dated.
>>5754199
REVEAL FUCKING SKYFIRE ALREADY
>>5754199
KFC AND DX9 ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>5754285
FT has one down the pipe for next year.
>>5754199
In the cartoon and Devastation, Blitzwing had a jetpack with boosters. I wonder if any of the MPs have it?
>>5754987
Ya know I predicted some buyers remorse after I preordered DX9 Gewalt but honestly I'm not even tore up. It might be three years before the fanstoys version sees the light of day and at that point i'll just get that version if it's good.
Looks too skinny. I want some meat on my Blitzwing
>>5754996
Toy in this style when
>>5754994
I really dig that about them, personally.
>>5755032
>Toy in this style when
customs only for you
>>5754870
>So what's everybodies opinion on the best third party team of constructions?
BEEP BEEP
BIG GUY COMING THROUGH
>>5755088
>Spindly fingers on partsformed arms
>Arms too long somehow despite being partsformed
>That tiny head in a huge helmet despite being partsformed
THE WHOLE POINT OF PARTSFORMING IS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE COMPROMISES. THESE MISTAKES SHOULDN'T BE HERE WHAT THE FUCK TOYWORLD YOU WERE SO CLOSE.
>>5755088
overrated anorexic shit. I'd take Hasbro's over it, for a fraction of the cost.
>>5754877
I really wish those datsons had been sold separately. I just wanted Prowl, I didn't want to pay 3x for him just to have the other two bros sit in a box forever.
>>5755088
people actually think this looks better than UW? that tiny abdomen looks awful.
>>5755598
honestly its not the thin waist that bothers me, lots of robots look good with thin waists (pic related).
i think its the tinyness of the chest and the oversized arms
>>5755612
my sentiments exactly..
prowl is already a literally who. So why pack him with the other Datsuns?
>that feel when all these blitzwings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeWBD7zHG8o
>>5755618
To get people to buy the other Daatsuns probably. Because Bluestreak would never sell enough on his own and Smokescreen probably wouldn't either.
>>5755732
its a shame. I really like what IF is doing, but the only character i want from them so far is prowl. At this rate i might wait for their sixshot..
>>5755017
Yup, that means next year.
>>5755716
i wish those harsh vocals were better. good song
>>5755614
They both look crap but at least you can get UW for the price of one member of TW's version.
MMMMmmmmm man, I love this thing.
>>5756032
When will you review it on collectionDX?
>>5756039
I have to put up the Burnden and Allocator reviews first. Ill probably do Allocator tonight if I have time before I go into work and then Burden tomorrow. Combined mode probably wont be until middle of the week.
Master Made strikes again
>>5756469
Fuck me, can Mastermade just like, make non-SD versions of their toys already? They have my single favorite aesthetic and it kills me that they all have deformed proportions.
>>5754285
DX9 tyrant is pretty awesome.
>>5756795
>They have my single favorite aesthetic and it kills me that they all have deformed proportions.
You have three options.
1. Get over it and stop crying.
2. Not get over it, but stop crying anyways.
3. Not get over it, and continue to cry.
Hopefully you pick one of the first two, because #3 is miserable for everyone else.
>>5754980
Announced for TFCon mid July.
MOTHER
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>Just wait another ten years for FansToys version bro!
NO FUCK OFF I WANT A BLITZWING NOW. I'LL GET HIM TOO WHEN HE COMES OUT
>>5756469
>>5756471
Apparently it comes with Scorpion Drones as well.
>>5756806
cant the guy give his opinion?
Also spreem is there.
Anyone have the Hero Hobby Tiny Rex? How does he scale with the MM titan bots? I might need to start a shelf...
Are there KOs of IF atuff? I don't wanna get burned but their shit looks so good.
Also are there KOs of the DX9 figures?
>>5757293
No KO that I know of, but I can vouch that their stuff is all great, I have Titan and Rex, got the PO in for Apollo and can't wait for Scorpion.
>>5756806
>people shouldn't complain
Look at this faggotron
>>5757009
The drones become part of his hands
>>5757154
>spreem
I wish they'd do Spreem colors
>>5757398
I think he means Iron Factory anon not Master Made.
>>5757455
Yeah, I was wondering if Iron Factory and DX9 have KOs
>>5757420
They very well could, if it sells enough
>>5757154
>>5757155
>MM Prime actually has the white trousers from the cartoon
Not even the MP does that. Props to MasterMade
>>5754199
You know, I'm guy the guy that kept telling people to wait for the fans toys version, but I have to say, the dx9 version looks way better.
>>5758663
I'd say DX9 for bot mode, FT for alt modes.
>>5758663
It's just an early render, there's no way the final figure will look so "flat".
>>5758726
Sorry these are the final product images.
>>5758663
>>5758673
>>5758726
I'm the W H E N poster.
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I love FansToys but I'm not waiting a year for an MP-ish Blitzwing. He's the holy grail of shit I wanted since I was a kid.
>>5758737
I think he meant the FT renders
>>5758738
I'd rather wait and buy one with the right color scheme.
>>5758785
What's wrong with the color scheme? He's purple and tan, right?
>>5758789
Beige arms and shoulders are wrong. They should be gray and purple
>>5758663
>You know, I'm guy the guy that kept telling people to wait for the fans toys version, but I have to say, the dx9 version looks way better.
But the FT one is just a render. who knows what might change?
>>5758833
oh yeeah, his forearms should be purple. No wonder DX9 Blitz had that "sweater" look going on
>>5757154
That hammer configuration is badass, but I wish it's handle was longer. Right now it looks kinda dinky and I want to live all my Reinhardt battle fantasies
>>5758911
i know right? the proportions make it look like those rubber whack-a-mole hammers
Anyone here own Anarchus and Cynicus? Been meaning to pick them up.
>>5759315
Do it, they're great. Good luck finding Cynicus though.
>>5759338
Friend is trading me the repaint.
I'll just go find Anarchus for retail later I just wanted some input.
>>5759346
Cynicus is good but the repaint is probably all you'll find these days. Just don't hamhand him, he's fragile.
Anarchus has had an issue with a locking tab for his feet in chair mode being really hard to get to lock or it breaking because it's tight, but the good news is that locking tab is also completely superfluous and you don't even need to use it, so if yours is tight don't force it, don't use it at all, because it's completely unnecessary.
>>5759353
That tab made me nervous but I filed it down a bit and now it works like a charm. For other anon's reference, he can also put the toes under the tabs instead of using the hole, which looks almost as good.
>>5754870
I honestly advice you to go with the TakaraTomy Unite Warrior Devastator.
It's the best price/quality ratio, also, most of the 3rd party are fingerprint grinder who are a chore to transform. If you get your fun from transforming back and forth your TF figure, then the japan official one is the most fun of all.
>>5759361
Yeah, like I said, you can totally ignore the locking point for the feet. Kaon isn't gonna discombobulate, he's rock solid once transformed. Not even worth the time to sand in my opinion if the tab doesn't go in easy.
>>5759401
This. Seriously, just get UW Devy. He is the best, especially for the price. It's fine if you like the 3P's, but none of them truly nail the Devy "look" or the look of the individual figures like the UW does. Shit, if you can get it really cheap (saw'em low as $90 last year), get the CW even if you don't care.
>>5759405
>or the look of the individual figures like the UW does.
I think the thing is, people like the individual 3rd party not because they look closer to the cartoon, but the opposite, they look more bulky/"muscled"/powerful, they are an "improvement" take on the proportion of the cartoon.
One of the reason people are not attracted by the UW constructions is precisely because they are too close to the cartoon proportions (except for Long haul, of course), making people think they look a bit weird and not "athletic" enough, if you get what I am saying.
>>5759401
>tiny head
>poor shoulder design
>incorrect Mixmaster
>even with Takara, the individual bots are write-off modes
>>5759414
>I think the thing is, people like the individual 3rd party not because they look closer to the cartoon, but the opposite
Ahh, yeah I didn't think of that. Me though, when I'm looking for a 3P, I always have to ask myself "Is this a good, updated/classic/G1-esque/source accurate representation?" before I decide if it's worth the time. The 3P Devy's usually look nothing like Devy, unlike say, the 3P Predaking's, or 3P Piranacon's.
Is there a 3rd party devy that has everything included? I mean, the head, the arms and the chest plate being integrated in the individual figure in a unseemly way (or just made it absent like in that IDW design), including their individual weapons being part of or hidden in the vehicle mode?
I think Hercules almost had managed to get it, but then just gave up when it came to dissimulate the hand for Bonecrusher (also, the hand couldn't be hidden either for Scavenger in robot mode) and that's it. Any other 3rd party has tried to do the impossible?
>>5759438
Hulkie I know incorporates the chest shield into Hook's uh....Hook.
>>5759418
Having it in and, the head is actually up to proportion.
The shoulder isnt really the issue, could look good, actually, the bonecrusher arm look perfect, as a matter of fact. It's the Scrapper arm who look a bit too slim as soon as you move it away from the body
In Devastator Mode, the Mixmaster foot look exactly the same. in vehicle mode, the updated version doesn't really hurt him. View from face, Mixmaster look exactly the same. it's only from the rear that his barrel stick out.
>even with Takara, the individual bots are write-off modes
The UW individual bots are the closest of all figure to the cartoon model. The only exception is Long Haul.
>>5759447
It doesn't matter how accurate it is when they're all shitty KO quality Mcdonald's toys. The fact that there's a gorillian add on kits to fix his tiny arms and giant torso is evidence to the proportions being garbage.
>>5759536
>when they're all shitty KO quality Mcdonald's toys.
But they are not. They are all great quality. They all feel great handling and transforming.
>The fact that there's a gorillian add on kits to fix his tiny arms and giant torso is evidence to the proportions being garbage.
Seeing that each of those add on make him look worst, not really. Those are basically all banking on "Muuh shuuhlder look" while providing poor quality solution.
>>5759536
>The fact that there's a gorillian add on kits to fix his tiny arms and giant torso is evidence to the proportions being garbage.
Seeing that those add ons fail to be integrated into the actual figures when they are not in Devy form, that doesn't really make a point.
>>5759438
DX9 Hulkie. Everything is all inclusive. The interesting bit is Hook's hook that transforms into the chest shield.
Everyone else partsforms to some degree. Ingration varies. Maketoys and Generation Toy do the generator arms for vehicle mode and murder hand/jetpack/piledrivers for robot mode. You can stick the wing bits on longhaul in both robot and vehicle mode.
Toyworld doesn't try. Herc gave up half way through but you can fanmode it to do what you want.
>>5759652
>DX9 Hulkie
Is there one doesn't looks like garbage?
>>5759401
>I honestly advice you to go with the TakaraTomy Unite Warrior Devastator
>>5759774
3P Devy's? Nope. If you want a Devy you get the UW or you get nothing, in all honesty. Despite being so many Dev's out there, none of them are anywhere close to nailing the aesthetic.
>>5759783
Sorry dude. It is true whether you like it or not.
>>5759787
At this point I'd buy a high quality giant action master of him. Hulkie is cool for the size, but lack of head movement on some and those shitty feet on one is kind of lame. So close. Maybe IF will make some combiners.
>>5759787
>>5759806
>220+ american dollars on an oversized, poorly made, knockoff quality, poorly proportioned shitheap.
What a fucking embarrassment of an opinion.
This is the type of sour grape poorfag opinion who can't be assed to spend 300 bucks on Giant or Hercules that are actually decent toys in all three modes.
CW/UW Devastator is a giant piece of shit that compromises everything to make the combined mode fit together reasonably and be huge but it ends up making the individual toys hollow and fucked beyond repair.
No elbows to be found, barely any paint or stickers, legend-tier transformations, throwaway polygon """""""Vehicle""""""""" modes, and really shitty robot modes that would look like cheap garbage next to your MP collection.
>>5759829
>>5759837
>He can't present a counter argument
Blown the fuck out.
>>5759951
>>5759978
>He can't afford a proper 3rd party quality Devastator
>>5759401
Id literally rather have nothing at all, than have this steaming pile of shit sitting on my shelf.
Looking to splurge on some third party shit after a long dry spell, just trying to decide where to order from.
I've heard Chosen Prime is reputable? What store do you guys tend to favor?
>>5760089
I use BBTS so far, mostly because every time I looked anywhere else they didn't have what I wanted, and the prices are usually the same everywhere.
What you thinking of buying bro?
How's that KBB knock off Megatron?
![Scav3_zpstegkzahk[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FFgtYiI.jpg "Scav3_zpstegkzahk[1].jpg")
>>5759401
This.
And before someone starts yelling "POORFAG" I have MT Giant, MT Quantron, FP Intidimator, had Uranos but sold him because TFC is shit (though they seem to be getting better)
None of the third party Devastators look good. The Generation Toys ones barely fucking look like the characters and the colors are off. Toyworld's are ok individually but have a bunch of unnecessary transluscent plastic and the combined mode looks like trash with the tiny waist for all the partsforming it does. TFC Hercules, shitty energon ports, colors are wrong, some of the individual heads and overall sculpt are wrong. MT Giant used to be my favorite but I don't care for the more fiddly transformations and Bonecrusher not looking enough like Bonecrusher.
UW is the only one that looks like it hopped right out of the cartoon and the partsforming is minimal. The only bad things about it are Mixmaster which is fixed by any of the three third party add ons and the hollowness in the individual modes. But I'd rather have hollowness than guys who barely look like the character.
>>5759826
>At this point I'd buy a high quality giant action master of him
YOU'RE IN LUCK
>>5760096
Some iron factory stuff. The Datsun bros set and maybe their blitzwing.
I've settled on just splurging now instead of waiting for whenever the dynobots set comes out. Ill just save that for my birthday.
>>5760123
Don't own them myself, but they look pretty good in reviews. Might want to watch a few on Blitzwing though, he's a bit mixed on opinions of him.
>>5759401
>>5759405
>>5759411
>>5760106
im really glad people are warming up to Titan Devastator. It really seemed liked everyone hated him, around the time he came out. But he's very fun
First combiner where I like the individuals just as much as the gestalt
>>5760123
Maybe wait for their future releases? Their Black Shadow and Prime look pretty nice. And they're almost definitely making a Sixshot later
Is the iGear's MW line recommend? Thinking about getting"not pipes"
>>5760137
The black shadow looks nice but I already have the Deluxe, and those sets are so similar in design Im not sure I can justify throwing 40 bucks at it.
I've got plenty of primes already, and I'm not going to spend months waiting on a figure that hasn't even been announced yet.
If I'm going to wait, it would be for the Dinobots. I just hate how its still set at the vague parameters of "2nd Quarter".
So its either the dinobots, or blowing it on the datsuns, maybe a blitzwing, and if I can squeeze in one more, the Diaclone Magnus, because those colors look to be the best.
>>5760131
>It really seemed liked everyone hated him
Everyones been jacking off nonstop to him since release except here, honestly. He's damn good, he is the definitive Devastator until the 3P's stop being full fucking retard and actually make an accurate, MP styled Dev rather than all of these "Our take on's" and "Based on some comic version".
>>5760121
I actually do like that. But I was meaning more mp or classics style.
>>5760147
I have the seaspray, he's alright. Just a little ugly looking. Cassy Sark design and all
Quality and articulation is good. If you like how they look get'em, but they aint gonna wow you.
Why Pipes though? he doesnt even look like Pipes!
>>5760165
Not much looks like pipes anyway. Well maybe the X-transbot one but he's a little to big for my taste.
>>5760137
Say, sites are still saying their black shadow is set for a June release, but its the fucking 27th and its still on pre-order, what the hell.
>>5760170
>Not much looks like pipes anyway
Fair point... I've been tempted by G1 Pipes so much cause there's no modern version.
That's a smart toy by the way, G1 Pipes. Because Pipes' torso is Huffer's back. That's the same trick they used for CW Hotspot and Onslaught. I love it
>>5760171
From what I understand, he's in transit to retailers.
>>5760188
hm. Well I got to wait on a paycheck before I splurge so maybe Ill get that.
Three Autobot cars and two Decepticon Flyers sounds like a good mix.
>>5760128
Theres so few decent video reviews and it drives me nuts. I can't managed to sit through kuma's videos and he's like the only one who does these things on the reg. He's so mumbly and blasé.
>>5760203
yeah, the only decent reviews of the blizzard figure are from a japanese reviewer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLwr9mhhb9A
At least he knows how to keep the figure in frame and cut out dead air.
How long are we supposed to wait for the IF Dinobots anyway? How long have they been advertising those, a year?
Did anyone save that Metal Slug figurr being made by Master Made that was posted a fee threads back? I cant seem to find it.
hey folks, remember when i told you some threads ago i said a new 3P dino/mirage is in the oven? , welp, this wasn't in the news but let me show some pics
>>5760545
This feels like a Spinout in the making
Guys, you remember those 3P Throttlebots that got KO's, right? Well, I found a KO of their Goldbug making the rounds on Ebay, but I don't know if this means we're getting oversized KO's of the 6 figures.
>>5759980
But there's no proper Devastator yet
>>5760496
Its called Commotus from Mastermind Creations.
>>5760616
No, he means this fucked up looking rabbit thing that turned into the Metal Slug.
It looked like some Bayformer abortion mixed with something from Five Nights At Freddies.
>>5760131
I find the line in the sand is drawn with how you feel about "Cartoon accuracy".
When people say "They look just like the cartoon" I agree and its why I hate them, the constructicons looked awful in the original cartoon. I like Generation Toy's different aesthetics and proportions and although I would like better heads I am not paying $200 for some pretty faces on bodies that make me vomit in disgust.
>>5760623
For me, it isn't even about cartoon accuracy. It's about looking "like" the source material. The 3P Dev's veer too far from that, or use comics as a source.
Like, I have a Feral Rex. I think it's an amazing Predaking update, it's basically perfect. It captures the look of everyone, in every mode. The new Piranacon coming out, he looks great too. He looks about what I'd expect of a CHUG version.
But the 3P Dev's just end up looking too "off" to me. The color is wrong, or the individual bots veer too far, or the combiner head/arms are all wrong, or...Etc. Hulkie is the only one I really like, but $150-160 for a Legends combiner is kind of pushing it. Maybe if he were $100-120.
Especially since he's missing some articulation on the individual bots. Hopefully he gets a "2.0" release down the line like some of the other DX9 Legends sized bots.
>>5760089
The Chosen Prime has some pretty good reviews among the people I talk to. I haven't ordered from them personally but from what I have seen and heard they don't do an annoying extra sales tax on top of the order like TFSource and they have a $150 free shipping offer. However, me living in the general southwest of the United States. I have heard the Chosen Prime is also in the southwest somewhere in Arizona or New Mexico to where they ship their packages from.
They ship same or next day after payment if they have stock. (I can't promise that though)
>>5760621
there was a prototype picture that looked like this boss
http://metalslug.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Shiee
>>5759829
>>5759951
>>5759980
> knockoff quality, poorly proportioned shitheap.
UW devy has one of the best quality of plastic. and his proportion are great.
>This is the type of sour grape poorfag opinion who can't be assed to spend 300 bucks on Giant or Hercules that are actually decent toys in all three modes.
Several vehicles mode are better than herculs, and it's not a Finger Print grinder like Giant.
> but it ends up making the individual toys hollow and fucked beyond repair.
The robot mode are the closest to the cartoon model you'll ever find.
>No elbows to be found,
UW has all the elbows
>legend-tier transformations
The transformation are rather complex, yet fun to do.
>throwaway polygon """""""Vehicle""""""""" modes
Check your eyes again, UW has already better vehicle mode than Hercules.
> and really shitty robot modes that would look like cheap garbage next to your MP collection.
Of all the devy figures, the individual modes of UW are the closest to the cartoon model. How blind are you?
>>5760024
It look great though.
>>5760106
>and the hollowness in the individual modes. But I'd rather have hollowness than guys who barely look like the character
I am surprised that more people don't understand that the hollowness is a necessity, to make the combined mode as light as possible.
The thing is, in most of the mods, you don't even see it. you only notice it during transformation.
>>5760796
Mesa, AZ
Given that the official offerings are somewhat lackluster (G1 Fort Max makes a much better city mode than whatever that is that HasTak is putting out), are there any companies that you feel either really nail the cityformers or should try their hand at them? The recent notScorpinok looks pretty good.
>>5760106
>UW is the only one that looks like it hopped right out of the cartoon
Get your eyes checked.
>>5760862
Utopia, maybe? Thought he is still a mess to transform, and some of his parts fall down too easily, IMO.
>>5760866
There's an over sized ko coming out in september
>>5760849
His proportions are a walking holocaust. His legs are a mile long, the treads on his arm vehicles become part of the torso which makes his chest absurdly wide while making his actual arms spindly and thin. His chest shield is tiny and doesn't cover up the gap on his torso.
His legs lack decent enough ankle tilts to have him doing anything even moderately dynamic.
Again, it being "accurate" doesn't stop the individual robots from being fucking garbage. They lack elbows for Christs sake, and even the UW elbows are shitty, rail thin connection joints that look like fucking garbage from every angle and destroy the sculpt as soon as you use the joint.
Long Haul is a fucking brick with vestigial non-arms, hook can't do anything with his crane, bonecrusher has a giant brick-tit shelf and can't keep it's legs together.
Your just shitting out blatant falsehoods about the hollowness and complexity. Scrapper has three fucking steps in his transformation and he's priced like a voyager.
He's OBJECTIVELY hollow, OBJECTIVELY simplistic, OBJECTIVELY oversized, and OBJECTIVELY GARBAGE.
I'm getting second hand embarrassment from people defending that piece of shit. It's the same delusional poorfags that think that the copy-paste CW combiners are "okay".
>>5760850
It looks like a brick on stilts. I fucking laugh when I see that piece of shit next to 3rd party/masterpiece collections. He looks like exactly what he is, a cheap, hollow, shitheap turd.
>>5760106
Too bad the cartoon model looked like shit. And even then, the UW/CW figure can't even get that right- Mixmaster and Long Haul are completely wrong, and frankly shit looking.
>>5760900
>His proportions are a walking holocaust. His legs are a mile long
Once you have it in hand, you actually realize it work quite well.
>the treads on his arm vehicles become part of the torso which makes his chest absurdly wide while making his actual arms spindly and thin.
His cartoon model actually has the thread being part of the Torso. And only Scavenger arm look thing. Bonecrusher arm look perfect.
and once again, his proportion look great once you have it in hand, the photos doesn't do him justice on that part.
> His chest shield is tiny and doesn't cover up the gap on his torso.
It does? And I thought his chest was too huge? His chest plate cover his whole Torso.
>His legs lack decent enough ankle tilts to have him doing anything even moderately dynamic.
Wrong, it actually allow many great poses.
>Again, it being "accurate" doesn't stop the individual robots from being fucking garbage.
It's in no way Garbage if you liked the cartoon model.
>They lack elbows for Christs sake
Not UW, and it was the figure that was actually recommended, not CW.
>and even the UW elbows are shitty, rail thin connection joints that look like fucking garbage from every angle and destroy the sculpt as soon as you use the joint.
This is the opposite of the truth, the elbows work great and allow to all the figure grreeat and dynamic poses.
>Long Haul is a fucking brick with vestigial non-arms
Not for UW.
>bonecrusher has a giant brick-tit shelf and can't keep it's legs together.
Again, not for UW. Stop bringing CW when the one adivised was UW. Alsohe is one of the most posable figure AND look exactly like his cartoon model.
>Your just shitting out blatant falsehoods about the hollowness and complexity
I am not. the hollowness doesn't impact any of the mod and is only noticeable during transformation. this is truth. AND it is an necessity if you don't want the figure to be too heavy. UW Devy is actually a figure that is fun to play with.
>>5760900
>>5760959
>Scrapper has three fucking steps in his transformation and he's priced like a voyager
Except UW Scrapper is THE best looking scrapper in robot mode, even compared to the other 3rd party and he is also the only one to actually pull Devy's right leg correctly. All the other 3rd party cheat on it standing on his shovel and arms in som ways.
>He's OBJECTIVELY hollow
Which is a good point for playability, seeing that the only worry that it would lead to, solidity, didn't come to be an issue.
>OBJECTIVELY simplistic
He is in no way simple. it look like it but it has subtility that made him very fun to tranform back an for. UW devy actually beat all the other 3rd party on the transformations, because he is actually fun to transform back and forths. Most of the 3rd party become a chore to transform at some point. UW devy, never.
>OBJECTIVELY oversized,
Guess it's an issue for people with shelve place
>and OBJECTIVELY GARBAGE.
That isn't an objective statement. Uw devastator has objectively the best quality/price ratio, is the most enjoyable on to transform and play with and I would only advise to buy a 3rd party if you don't transform your figure too often and just like to pose it in one form for a very long time.
>I'm getting second hand embarrassment from people defending that piece of shit
You shouldn't, it's actually a good figure.
>It's the same delusional poorfags that think that the copy-paste CW combiners are "okay".
I was actually disappointed by most of the combiner team, except CWQ Defensor, especially if you take the one with Rook and the to-scale Grove who make an very nice looking chest as well as a nic knee protection to boot.
>>5760900
>It looks like a brick on stilts. I fucking laugh when I see that piece of shit next to 3rd party/masterpiece collections. He looks like exactly what he is, a cheap, hollow, shitheap turd.
Compared to other 3rd party he is the best looking Devastator. all the other figures have something "off". The only thing it lacks is better paint apps.
>>5760964
>The only thing it lacks is better paint apps.
>>5760968
It's not shit though. It's probabaly one of the best Devy figure.
>>5760891
That one is probably cancelled.
>>5760105
Pretty good, actually. Tight fits, good paint, diecast is just aluminium but hey whatever. If you want a leader Megatron wit hthe DX9 kit, then it's definitely worth the 50 shipped this costs then 100 for the regular leader + DX9 kit.
>>5760964
Everything about it is "off". The only reason you accept it is because it's cheap. Just admit it.
>>5760996
No, I like it because he is tons of fun to transform back and forth, of all the figures, he has the best heads sculpt, and he actually look great and massive in person.
>>5760105
I have it, bought it for the upgrade parts, since I already had this Megs. The KO has metal chest and crotch, which is pretty sweet. It's a bit more heavy than the orig. Some paint differences, the abdommen and the insides of the arms are not red. The joints, the plastic, the threads are same quality as the orig. Silver paint on back of the head and on the extra head looks a bit funny. Not consistent silver. Really not a bad figure for a KO.
>>5761001
Damn son. That's a lot of sour grape delusion. I'd fucking recommend any other third party devastator over UW.
Constructor partsforms to hell and back but it's accurate in it's partsforming plus it's huge.
Gravity builder is shaping up to be Giant 2.0. Excellent quality and complex transformations. Sort of classics meets IDW style.
Giant still holds up very well and can be found for around 300 bucks now. Same with Hercules. Literally no reason to buy your garbage shitheap.
>>5760962
>I like my toys oversized legends because I'm hamhanded and three steps is okay for a transformer
Top fucking lel.
>>5761025
>Damn son. That's a lot of sour grape delusion.
I can assure you there is none. The figure is good, that's it.
>I'd fucking recommend any other third party devastator over UW.
I wouldn't be that absolute. If you love to transform back and forth your figure and have fun playing with it, then UW devy is the must go. If you simply like to pose your figure and only change it occasionally, then 3rd party might do the trick. the issue I have with most of the 3rd party is that they are a chore to change and can tend to be fingerprint grinders.
also, and this is more subjective, but UW devy is the figure who nail the devy look the best.
>>I like my toys oversized legends because I'm hamhanded and three steps is okay for a transformer
It's funny because it's an inacurate statement.
>>5761025
>Constructor partsforms to hell and back but it's accurate in it's partsforming plus it's huge.
UW objectively does a better job in its partforming than Constructor.
>Gravity builder is shaping up to be Giant 2.0.
The funny thing about Gravity builder is that it give me the exaxt feeling as Giant did: like they had plan to give every kibble to a locked place but then gave up along the way and just decided "just arrange the kibbles as you can to not get in the way". Mixmaster's barrel, for example.
>>5761001
You can't be fucking serious.
>>5761113
It's true, though.
>>5760849
Regardless of how accurate they are, I feel like Toyworld pulls the MP vibe way more than the UW figures. Scrapper as an example, has those unsightly mushroom pegs on his wheels and permafists. He also has that neon green plastic which I think works more with CHUG than MP. Shovel has that dull green that's reminiscent on the G1 toy and along with not too much greeble, is a nice size and has better hands. It's the same thing with the other bots. They just look like slightly beefed up, more toy accurate versions of the CW guys.
Now, I'm not saying they're worth the price or that the Devestator is any good. I'm just saying for MP style Constructicons Toyworld is the best in terms of looks. Likewise, others like Generation are visually pleasing but to me aren't faithful enough to the source material.
Also, I'm not shitting on UW/CW I'm just saying I think the individual bots from Toyworld look better.
>>5761123
Don't know why that picture didn't render properly.
>>5761123
>Regardless of how accurate they are, I feel like Toyworld pulls the MP vibe way more than the UW figures.
Well, of course, the UW figures pull the CHUGwhatever look, not the MP one.
You pose UW Devy with your Generation toys, not the MP ones.
>>5761123
>He also has that neon green plastic which I think works more with CHUG than MP.
There might be a reason for that.
>>5761136
Well no shit, yeah. I just see load of guys saying they're totally passable for MPs when they're clearly meant to work worth the former.
One more vote for UW Devy. I am a huge fag for the original cartoon constructicons and it pissed me off to no end how inaccurate every 3p is.
When I finally got the UW I got the individual cons I wanted, large hefty and poseable. BUT what I didn't expect was how much I loved the combined mode as well. It's sturdy as fuck and poseable.
I was planning to use UW as just individual cons for display, but I've playes with them so much that I've retired every other 3p Devy I have to the toy box, and left UW on the shelf.
>>5761160
while we are on the subject, a little tip to make the combination more enjoyable (though it might work on 3rd Party too)
You might know this already, but if you start by the upper torso first (by not deploying Long Haul's Devy's knee, so he can stand easily), then only add the leggs once the torso is done, it's much easier and fun to do.
Yeah, so Im saying for Generations, UW with Perfect Effect addons and Toyworld for MP.
>>5761225
>Perfect Effect addons
Is that Japanese for DNA?
Also, GB is shorter than CW right? I think I prefer Devy a bit smaller for Generations.
Is it actually that hard for a third party to actually come with a telescopic crane for Hook? it doesn't even need to have a wire. I mean hell, it's one of the easiest piece to replace, what are they waiting for?
The only one that tires has come up with this weird stuff where you are supposed to slide the original crane in it instead of simply replacing it, resulting in Hook being unable to stand right.
>>5761232
Oh, sorry. I looked for them thinking it was perfect effect and still got the results. Really tired. My bad.
>>5761390
>They're different.
Fuck it, going to bed. DNA looks better tho.
>>5761333
This is why Quakewave is vastly superior to the official Shockwave. Ignoring the fact that Shockwave is teal he's just not as polished as quakewave.
>>5761444
I seriously consider MP shockwave to be superior.
>>5761444
>3 good MP'd Shockwaves
>Blast, Wave, MP
Which is worth the time and dime, guys?
>>5761450
How.
>>5761453
Both mode look better. It's mostly the back-pack look that kill it for me, for Quackwave.
>>5761119
No, it's not. It's objectively wrong and you're an idiot for denying the truth.
>>5761452
Quakewave has a pain in the ass light up gimmick but everything else is pretty much perfection. Joints are widely ranged and toleranced perfectly. 9/10 I love him.
Official MP has slightly more accurate leg geometry, a terrible off blueish color, a smarter barrel backpack gimmick, a shitty spring that flakes paint, and worse hands. He's a mixed bag.
> Order mmc not-ravage because.
> Expect it to be the same scale as the mp.
> It's a life-size cassette instead.
>>5761484
Reviews man. Reviews.
>>5761487
It's a super nice surprise. Not idea why I thought it would be tiny.
>>5761494
Hope you have fun with it, but yeah man, always check reviews, especially of 3P stuff. Last thing you want is a surprise Omnigonix.
>>5761503
>>5761452
Quakeblast for toy accuracy and MP for cartoon accuracy. Fuck Quakewave and his shitty color pallette.
>>5761503
What is the problem with that figure?
>>5761576
Everything. Literally, anything you could mention other than GPS, it has that problem.
>>5761576
>>5761587
>screws that unscrew themselves just by moving parts
>things literally unsecured so it will fall apart because actual parts are not pinned/screwed in correctly
>tolerances off everywhere
>nothing tabs
>everything floppy
>parts literally falling off at random
>cheap shit plastic
>bad paint
>>5761587
>Everything. Literally, anything you could mention other than GPS, it has that problem.
its funny cause its true..
There's no perfect Devastator. Most of the first batch had weird robot modes. TFC was the best of that lot. Hasbro and Takara are just too big and have that inexplicable wrong Mixmaster foot and fat Long Haul. At least Takara didn't cheap out on joints and guns. The new batch contains still more weird robots. Toyworld looks pretty good individually but there's something about partsforming?
>>5761889
>and have that inexplicable wrong Mixmaster f
In foot mode, Mixmaster actually look on model. Even in Robot mode, it's quite close to the original look if looked from face. It's just in Vehicle mode that it's deifferent. And once you remember that it's the CHUG line, you recall yourself that, yeah, right , they actually upgrade the vehicle mode in that line.
>and fat Long Haul.
It's almost unavoidable. It"s either fat longhaul, or part forming for the tight.
>>5761889
I'm sick of seeing most of them go 99% original toy colors, only to have black forearms. If you're doing toy colors, then it needs purple arms, dammit!
>>5761889
CW is cheaply made, hollow, poorly proportioned, and suffers immensely for combined mode.
UW is marginally better than that but it's polishing a turd.
Giant is pretty decent but the design has definitely aged.
Hercules was the gold standard but it's aged worse than Giant and has some pretty crappy robots.
Constructor is immense but partsforms out of the ass and has a ton of loose shit that doesn't do anything while devastator isn't combined. He also is shitty with proportions.
Gravity builder isn't done yet but the design is very solid and the individual robots are very good. Very complex transformers with very stylized design. Giant 2.0 Basically.
>>5761895
>Fat long haul is unavoidable
>>5761904
>CW is cheaply made, hollow, poorly proportioned, and suffers immensely for combined mode.
The hollowness is in no way cheap. It had to be as hollow as possible to make the combined mode as light as possible. How come so little understand this. This hollowness complain make no sense in the light that it's only noticeable when in mid transformation and actually not visible in any of the mode.
There is literally zero proportion issue, as except for Long Haul, all of them respect perfectly the proportion of their cartoon model.
UUW fix the articulations issues of CW. All in all, the figure is in no way a turd.
>>5761908
Or partforming for the tight, which is exactly what Constructor do. You forgot to quote that part.
>>5761917
Just give it up. It's the same person, and it's obviously a troll. He's just gonna keep spewing the same shit every time. It ain't worth the time, man.
KO downsized to fit in with the other CW combiners UW Devy WHEN though?
>>5761908
>that
>not fat
You must be American
Here's my opinion on the Devastator Wars.
CW/UW:
>Pros: Big, quite poseable for a combiner of his size, very G1 accurate.
>Cons: Hollow and ugly, shitty plastic (if the rest of CW is anything to go by), weird proportions in combined mode, individual robots kinda suck, all for the sake of the combined mode.
>Overall: Good for kids (provided they don't break it) but shit for everything else.
Hercules:
>Pros: Good size, tread-forearms are ingenious (and optional with the Rage kit), has a cool, Cybertron-esque look about it, individual robots have lots of playability (Mixmaster's barrel, Hook's crane etc).
>Cons: Some robots look a tad wonky, colours are kinda off, whole set is a bit dated.
>Overall: If you can find it for a good price it's still a good option, just not perfect by any stretch.
Giant:
>Pros: Very good quality, some neat designs, combined mode looks awesome, super stable, nice colours.
>Cons: Too small, stylized a bit, some of the bots look a bit boring (the arm bots especially).
>Overall: If you like the aesthetic and don't mind the size it's a good bet.
Gravity Builder:
>Pros: Awesome sculpts, good QC and materials, great colours, very little partsforming.
>Cons: Quite stylized, very big, quite expensive.
>Overall: Probably the one I'm going for (when I can afford him), my favourite overall. Works best for MP scale but could work for CHUG if you like Devastator being huge.
Constructor:
>Pros: Quite G1 accurate, MP scaled, FUCKHUEG, working treads, combined mode is super solid.
>Cons: Partsforming is just excessive, weird combined mode proportions, off QC.
>Overall: Good in some ways, crap in others. A real mixed bag.
>>5761917
Please stop spewing your poorfag damage control. I hate having to read your sour grapes.
Hollowness is just fucking ugly to look at and worse with the tactile feel of the figure. A big fucking combiner should feel like a big fucking combiner and not a cloth doll. This is why "This is heavy, it feels good" is a thing lots of toy reviewers say.
Your proportional damage control is so deep in denial to where objective reality is just a bump in the road to your plebian eyes. His legs are fucking absurdly long. His chest is a brick. His arms are thin and lanky without shoulder upgrades.
>>5761927
>H-he's j-just trolling
Your figure is fucking garbage and you can't even fucking defend it.
>>5761934
He's properly proportioned, well made, and thick by design rather than design necessity.
CW Long Haul is almost leader size and morbidly obese.
>>5761925
That's not constructor. That's gravity builder that doesn't partsform. Thank you for proving that cw/uw supporters don't have working eyes.
>>5761949
>Your figure is fucking garbage and you can't even fucking defend it.
>plenty of people proved you wrong already
>you're in the minority by far
>you keep spewing the same shit
>I-I'm n-n-n-not a trolling faggot, y-you just need to defend yourself
Not how it works, shitter.
You're a faggot, you're clearly trolling, you lost.
>>5761965
>Argument ad populum
The majority of people believe in God but that doesn't make it true faggot. "Nuh uh the garbage proportions are fine cuz it's cheap" isn't a defense for it being shit. It's literal denial of poor quality. It's not a fucking argument.
>You lost
I actually cringed. What an embarrassment. You should feel ashamed for defending such a terrible ass product.
You paid Voyager price (minimum) per figure on something as simple as a legends toy. This is straight buyers remorse level of butthurt.
You see all these nice, high end products you can't afford and you clutch your shitheap with all of your strength because you have no other choice.
>>5761949
>Please stop spewing your poorfag damage control. I hate having to read your sour grapes.
There is zero sour grape and 100% enjoyment of my figure.
And listing facts is not damage control.
>Hollowness is just fucking ugly to look at
Well, good thing it's not visible ina any of the mod of the figures, then.
>at and worse with the tactile feel of the figure.
I guarantee you the tactile feel of the figure is 100% amazing.
> big fucking combiner should feel like a big fucking combiner and not a cloth doll.
Well, good thing UW feel like a big fucking combiner, then.
>This is why "This is heavy, it feels good" is a thing lots of toy reviewers say.
And UW manage to get the right amount of weight to feel right while not actually feeling like a strain on your hands when you play with it.
>Your proportional damage control is so deep in denial to where objective reality is just a bump in the road to your plebian eyes.
There is zero damage control. you look at the proportions of the figures, you look at the cartoon model, the UW constructicons are objectively the closest to the cartoon proportions of any of the Devy figure that we have.
>His legs are fucking absurdly long. His chest is a brick. His arms are thin and lanky without shoulder upgrades.
You have never got to manipulate one for real, haven't you. That cartoon model actually has the threads being part of the chest. Especially when with other Generations figure, he stand out just like in the cartoon. the only downside his his Scrapper arm but all the other Devy have proportions issues as well. Compared to all the 3rd party, I consider he has the closest proportions.
Also, and it can't be denied, best headsculpt of all.
>Your figure is fucking garbage and you can't even fucking defend it.
I just did, and quite easily. None of your argument stand.
>CW Long Haul is almost leader size and morbidly obese.
UW Long howl actually feel powerful.
>>5761938
The hollowness is never an issue in any of the mode, though.
and the only reason one wouldn't liek the individual robot mode is if you went of the CW instead of the UW and didn't like the cartoon model to start with.
>>5761978
>The majority of people believe in God but that doesn't make it true faggot.
Not him, but missing the point. It's not that the majority disagree with you, it's that you have simply ignored their arguments.
>I actually cringed. What an embarrassment. You should feel ashamed for defending such a terrible ass product.
Except it's a very good product.
>You paid Voyager price (minimum) per figure on something as simple as a legends toy.
Their complexity of transformation is actually on the level of Voyager Triple Changer.
>You see all these nice, high end products you can't afford
I can afford all of them, but none of them look right. Only UW devy actually managed to strike the look of Devastator. Add to that that UW devy is fun as hell to transform back an forth.
>>5761988
welll, look at this sour grape damage control, regretting to have lost money when you could have got the better product for cheaper?
>>5761988
>the sadist people on 4chan.
Typo I'm sure, but you're not wrong.
>>5761988
>you two are officially the sadist people on 4chan.
>the sadist
I won't deny it, I love your butthurt.
>>5761993
What? I'm laughing at both of you.
>>5761938
>>Overall: Good for kids (provided they don't break it) but shit for everything else.
Kid or not, it's the only figure that isn't a chore to transform.
>>5761994
Whoops. Saddest people.
>>5761997
I think you are confusing "laughing at" and "being angered by".
Regardless, you have failed to provide any kind of valid arguments to show it's actually a bad figure.
>>5761988
>People aren't allowed to have disagreements.
Please fuck right off back to tumblr.
>>5762003
Because I'm not the person you're arguing with.
>>5761999
>Hercules
>A chore to transform
Is this the level of stupidity TF collectors have sunken to? Perhaps you had better stick to one-step changers.
>>5762012
Hercules isn't a chire to transform, but a lot of the Vehicle mode are disapointing. I gave up on the figure when I saw one of the cab was just a peg hold by an hand.
>>5762003
>Overly long legs
>Spindly arms
>Weak shoulder joints can't support the gun in combined mode
>Long Haul being a mutant blob because of combined mode sacrifices
>Having to import a marginally less shitty version of the figure to get terrible looking elbows for the individual toys
>Very few ratchets whatsoever
>No poseable hands on a very big figure
>Doesn't integrate combiner kibble well
>Nonexistant paint
>Nearly as expensive as an older 3rd party devastator after upgrades to fix all of his problems
>>5761990
>It's fun and I like him and the shit proportions don't bother me
Not an argument.
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>>5762033
Never ever.
>>5762036
>>5762026
>>Overly long legs
>>Spindly arms
Neither of those are true. Once you have it in person, it all fit perfectly and give a towering look, just like in the cartoon.
Proportionally, the only issue it has is with the Scrapper arm.
>>Weak shoulder joints can't support the gun in combined mode
Why do you keep bringing CW issues when we are talking about UW.
>>Long Haul being a mutant blob because of combined mode sacrifices
Long Haul actually look masive and powerful, not like a blob.
>>Having to import a marginally less shitty version of the figure to get terrible looking elbows for the individual toys
All the elbow look great and you said that as if I would have to import 3rd party too. Not everyone live in the US, you know.
>>Very few ratchets whatsoever
It has all the ratchet it needs and is able to hold in any pose you put it.
>>Doesn't integrate combiner kibble well
UW is one of the figure that integrate the Kibble the best.
>>Nearly as expensive as an older 3rd party devastator after upgrades to fix all of his problems
Except wasting money to make it look less good is pointless. He is the best as he is out of the Box. Upgrade set are objectively making it worst.
>>5762029
Because those weren't the arguments given to you.
>>5761978
>You see all these nice, high end products you can't afford.
>>5762046
Whenever a nigger brings up this argument I just post my 1/60 valks
>got most of them on sale
SHHHHHH shut up tho
>>5762041
Having it in person doesn't make the chest 33% leaner than it needs to be. It doesn't make the arms any thicker. It doesn't make the legs any thicker or less long.
Long Haul barely has any fucking arms! How can one person be so fucking delusional? The elbows are little platform hinges that have no connecting mass for Christs sake.
>>5762052
>350 dollars on one figure? Pfft I spent over two stacks on my Hguyushi Tgyanakki Bit Tittie Deluxe super exclusive limited 50 worldwide who gives a fuck edition of whatever figure you own
>>5762050
Satsuki was too good to pass up. And I was a latefag on Ryuko too, so she cost me way more than she should have.
Probably gonna pick up Kaon, maybe a Vos, and a Turmoil soon too.
>>5762054
>Having it in person doesn't make the chest 33% leaner than it needs to be. It doesn't make the arms any thicker. It doesn't make the legs any thicker or less long.
No, but it make you realize that they are actually sized quite nicely and give out a towering and powerful look.
>Long Haul barely has any fucking arms!
Again, stop bringing up CW. We are talking about UW.
>How can one person be so fucking delusional? The elbows are little platform hinges that have no connecting mass for Christs sake.
Because I actually have the figure in front of my eye and am able to give him some sick poses.
I'm still waiting for IDW Devy
>clean/sharp sculpt
>tread arms
>dump bed hip skirts
>Long Haul is a big huy
Prowlestator mode is not needed but appreciated.
>>5762065
One of the 3P Devy's is IDW All Hail Megatron Devy, isn't it?
>>5762067
TFC is kinda close. I own him, but I want one even closer.
>>5762065
I would really be interrsted in a 3rd party selling an add on able to make the Generation Devastator have a police car able to change into his head as well as manage to find a way to make Hook work as the right leg.
>>5762067
Yeah, that would be the ToyWorld one.
>>5762062
So you aren't even defending the bad proportions, but rather you like the bad proportions? Fine. Cool. Great. Good for you.
His arms having an elbow doesn't change the fact that they are pathetic, vestigial limbs.
>>5762074
>So you aren't even defending the bad proportions, but rather you like the bad proportions?
No, I am saying those actually aren't bad proportions.
>His arms having an elbow doesn't change the fact that they are pathetic, vestigial limbs.
Once you are able to move them, you realize that they aren't.
Why is Hasui shitting up the thread because we don't absolutely love his Devy.
>>5762092
Even Hasui doesn't love his Devy. IIRC he was really disappointed he had to gut it so heavily to fall in line with budget requirements.
>ITT
Honestly, fat Long Haul in CW/UW doesn't bother me as much as Mixmaster being backwards, the missing joints/guns, and the set being twice as big as it should've been.
>>5762092
I think you are reading the thread wrong.
Most people say the figure is a-okay while one person (two?) consider it's a shamble that not everyone consider this figure the worst and an horrible mess.
>>5762101
That will be for MP devy. Once they are done with doing MP BlitzWing and Astrotain.
>>5762065
Yes. This is what I would like. In either legends or classics scale please and thank you.
>>5762094
>Hasui forced to turn his hard labour of an MP Devy design into a shitty playschool figure
>Hasui on sepuku watch
