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>1USD:103.9JPY
This kind of really sucks.
>>5745667
>now it's 104.07
Kid, come back and cry when it hits 78. That's when I started collecting heavily. Yeah, it's nicer when it's 120 per $, but this is still head and shoulders above several years ago.
Anything where 1 USD>100 JPY is good. Means that Japan's import game will be stronger and they won't die.
>>5745702
Yeah but at that time the average import figure was 2400 yen.
now they are 5000+ for a schoolgirl with no accessories and the dollar is getting worse.
>>5745667
I'm annoyed. I didn't buy anything in the past year, but when I have 2 expensive orders coming on, the exchange rate goes to shit.
>1CAD:81.27JPY
>>5745768
Prices on products should be lower, but that won't happen immediately, so for a while, importing is going to be even more expensive than it was before.
>incoming econanon post where he says we should be grateful to pay more for less
>increase in yen coincides with decrease in quality
Perfect time for a break.
>>5745784
Historically they've never actually lowered prices. The price has only stayed steady or gone up. Browse MFC and check the prices of releases from 2010-2015. So based on historical precedent, the manufacturers -won't- be returning to 2500JPY figures loaded with accessories. It's a bullshit fantasy.
We're just going to have a shitty exchange rate, with everything coming in at 5000Y on average and maybe a return to more accessories at that price. Japan is one of the most pigheaded manufacturers in the developed world, they don't give a shit if weebs can't afford their wares because to them it's not even a competitive market to care about, unlike electronics. The yen will have more buying power, which means more affluent domestic spenders, which is what they'll be aiming towards, at the cost of us as consumers.
Now think about the fact that my coin is 1USD -> 3.5 BRL.
Yep, I pay three times more for a figure than you guys do.
I don't make three times more than you guys do.
>>5745667
Lol, the Cad is 80jpy.
Funny to see Burgers complain.
>AUD is 77JPY
>Just last year it was 96JPY
It's all over... Turnbull you fuck...
glad i did a bunch of weeb ass impulse buys in 2015 cause i cant quite do it now
>>5745822
You're a little bit of a moron.
The problem Japan has is that they've no natural resources, or at least relatively speaking. That little island nation can't manufacture shit, pretty much everything's done in China for them too. They're a culture that makes its money off the DESIGN of products.
So the problem's been that a strong yen means no one buys the shit they design, but a weak yen means they can't actually build anything.
The best situation was when USD>JPY>whatever China's currency was at the time. For Japanese products to be well priced again, they need to source out another cheap-labor source, which is why some are starting to use India, but that's a bit farther away, meaning shipping costs rise. The best thing for them is if the US somehow breaks free from their China debt and China takes a stumble economically. The second is possibly going to happen, but if the US is still indebted, the dollar will tank too.
>>5745768
We can buy more, but foreigners can buy less. Less exports is bad
Why did the yen get so low in the first place? It suddenly started going down, but I wasn't around when it happened.
>>5745854
China taking a stumble in general would help out alot with all the worlds economy.
>>5745854
I thought Vietnam was where companies are setting up their factories now? If I recall, China's getting pricier with the workers demanding better pay and workplace conditions.
The USD might drop from defaulting on the debt to China, but China will take the biggest blow in the end, correct?
>>5745864
Quantitative easing, if I recall.
>>5745875
Are they going to try and keep it at 1 dollar/100 yen, or will they try something else to keep the yen lower than the dollar?
>>5745880
Japan's printing more money at a low interest rate, devaluing the yen for the same reasons the US was for a while. basically Japan's economy needed boosting so low bank rates are SUPPOSED to encourage more people to borrow for businesses and such and thus get the economy jumpstarted. What the Japs haven't realized yet that the US now does is that quantitative easing doesn't make an economy bustle back to normal (or much at all), so eventually Japan will follow the US's moves and stop devaluing the yen from lowering the interest rates and printing more money.
>>5745871
Same anon. Not really, because they're carrying a debt from the US. See, barring Germany and England(and a few others here and there depending), most of the world sucks the Dollar's tit. Meaning that if China gets in a bind, they'll fuck everyone over by demanding the US pay up.
>>5745757
Fucking this.
If anyone gets to cry, it's us eh
>>5745874
The problem is that any company that gets a lot of business but remains the same in terms of birthrate is going to eventually hit the same problem as China, where there's more demand than there are people willing to do work for the pay.
India's so overly populous, it's a wonder they've not been tapped before.
As to the issue of what would happen with the dollar, who the fuck knows? It's dominos mixed with minefields mixed with Chutes and Ladders.
Basically, it'll be a wild fucking ride when China reveals they're broke.
>>5745903
Your social programs sometimes make up for the shit you get for being USA's hat.
>>5745667
>the first time I went to Japan was in 2012, at one of the lowest points in that chart
>100 yen was like $1.25 us
>I'm going back this summer, only for it to now be plummeting again
I think I'm cursed.
>>5745854
>So the problem's been that a strong yen means no one buys the shit they design, but a weak yen means they can't actually build anything
That's literally not even close to right. You make it sound like financial strength of the currency has to do with things like national credit score and business funding. It doesn't. Jesus, just stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
Great, glad I preordered everything for the next few months off of hlj and amiami as opposed to the other US sites. I figured I would pay the extra couple bucks and get my figures a little earlier... little did I know that a "couple bucks" would soon turn into a fair amount more.
>>5745912
Yeah, but we also got the belligerent frenchies to worry about.
I did the bulk of my collecting back when the yen was 2strong.
As soon as I nearly stopped collecting the exchange rate went better.
I pre-order one fucking thing and this happens.
>>5745936
It has to do with a lot of things, but those are pertaining to this thread. The way the world in general feels about Japan, the way the Japanese people feel about Japan, the ebb and flow of actual currency, subsidized industry, etc, they've nothing to do with toys(well some of that last one)
>>5745921
Oh look here, someone that A) thinks that I need to be an economist to make some observations and B) thinks that it's not a multi-layered situation, not just due to the national bank buffoonery.
>>5745845
I know right, and these Amerifucks are complaining.
I remember when it was around 150JPY per dollar, and it was glorious.
And dont blame Turnbull, it's that fucking big eared cunt's fault.
>>5745768
>expecting /toy/ retards to understand basic economics
People here think weaker dollar means less accessories in japanese toys. Go figure.
>tfw don't make a lot of money
>don't really mind anyway
I mean I'll still be getting what I want, yeah? It'll be more, but it's still there.
>>5746016
Dude: safe havens. That's all anyone needs to say, because that explains pretty much everything that we're seeing. There is no grand restructuring of Japan's manufacturing components, there is no centralized BoJ scheme that is fluxing the currency at the rate it's going, and it's not even a huge multi-layered mess of a situation like you're saying. It's entirely just the balance of exchange moving from one end to another, and designating one established currency as "safe" to hedge rate jumping bets off of. It's just hedging.
Any of the factors at play with BoJ's forward plans, any aspects of the job reports, all of the manufacturing numbers that you can compile, they are irrelevant to the current exchange situation. 100% completely irrelevant. And because of this, the dollar versus yen balance will net zero positive results, because the effects on the money reflect next to nothing of actual domestic economic reality other than "Japan still exists and uses the yen". The reason that the yen is shooting up is because it exists, and that's all. Think of it like a flash bubble, and you'll understand why everything is happening in the way that it is, and why the yen surge is nothing but damage to everyone.
>>5746033
Your minimum wage is double ours. You guys are way better than us.
>>5745667
Haha, I'd never think someone would complain when 1USD > 100JPY.
Extend that graph to when 1USD dropped below 100JPY and that's roughly when I stopped heavily collecting Japanese crap.
>4INCHNEL Mega Man is 3800JPY on HLJ
>3800JPY will be $40 by August release date
>preordered it from US site for $33 with free shipping
Reminder that many US stores are locked into their MSRP and it will end up being cheaper in the coming months.
>>5746139
Remember when it reached the 60s range about 4 years ago? That was a lot more painful desu
>>5746139
>why would someone complain about spending more money
Are you stupid? This isn't a comparison that matters, spending more money for the same item sucks regardless.
>>5746212
>millennial problems
>>5746227
>he thinks this is about toys
Found the 12 year old.
>>5746251
>decide to preorder expensive nipshit
>go for the lowest price
>it's amiami
>exchange rate fuckery happens
>now it's even more expensive
>can't cancel or DING DONG BANNU
I really shot myself on the foot there. The price seemed barely reasonable when it was announced, now I just want to keep my wallet away and safe
>>5746379
If you tell them the current exchange rate and if that is something to go by is complete and utter bullshit, they'll understand.
>>5746407
>1GBP = ¥155
>>5746149
Yeah until the distributor goes "surprise! 40% price hike!" and they buckle because they can't afford to lose $20 on every figure right out of the gate. Margins are fucking thin right now, like 5% if you order a case (with no discounts beyond that).
>>5746407
I remember when our dollar was strong :(
Just in time for me slowing down on my collection.
>>5745667
:^)
But yeah it's all downhill from here.
>>5746520
It was only two years ago...
>>5746580
That's what hurts the most.
>>5746574
>Euro bragging about their currency
Britannia rules once again.
>1 USD = 18.50 MXN
>>5746777
Shit's gonna fall hard once they leave the EU.
>>5746831
God I fucking hope not
>>5746519
Big name stores like BBTS and Crunchyroll would lose too much good will from customers if they pushed up preorder prices on existing orders (though they might be entitled to do it under their site terms). For now they're locked up till basically Q4 on their prices for all the big releases and they'll look better and better compared to HLJ and amiami for single orders.
But who knows, with how volatile the currency exchange has been, the yen could be anywhere in 3-5 months.
>>5746149
What US site does free shipping on 30 bucks preorder?
>>5746824
>1 USD = 18.12 MXN
brexit failed, currencies are getting a breath now
/pol/ faggots and sperglords and bitching about it but those guys can go and fuck themselves in hell
>>5747808
They'll take the hit here and there on individual products but if all imports spike they'll have to adjust prices. As a long term trend, I've been seeing more and more instability that would've been unthinkable 10 years ago.
>>5746777
>Brexit crash is coming
>>5745702
Things haven't changed as much as we like to make it out to be. I remember the dark times of 78 yen to the dollar, but back then your average figures was like 2500 yen. Now it seems like 5000 yen is the base price for a Figma...
>Now it's almost 1 dollar= 101 yen
And the dream is dead.
>>5751875
Yep. Shot up to 106, fell hard to 99
>>5752290
Fucking savage.
Thanks, Britain. Really glad your dumbfuckery is now making things worse.
>>5752288
Glad I got my payment request today. God only knows if it's gonna be worse.
If BOJ doesn't treat the 100JPY:$1 mark as the absolute end of the line before announcing policy, this is going to get really, REALLY fucking bad. This is too much, too fast, and the manufacturing sector is going to be reeling from the swings for years to come.
>>5745667
This comes at the perfect time, most figures are so awful and come with no accessories, which means I'll be ordering less either way.
>>5751642
>brexit failed
>already lost $4 within an hour because Mandarake fucked up my shipping address (somehow) and I can't pay them until it gets correct
Fucking Osakans.
Time to pivot my collecting habits. We'll be at 1:70 in a few months and a figure that should be 2500Y costing 6400Y and converting to $75+ isn't exactly something I want to get involved with.
> mfw just paid for a tamashii exclusive on NY while PayPal hasn't readjusted it's rate yet
Thank god I had enough in my savings.
>>5752466
>he uses paypal's exchange rates
How's your first month of collecting going?
>>5752390
I still have an order for next month. I am fucking terrified.
A-american toys are good, too, r-right?
>>5752469
I've been doing this for 5 years son.
>>5752464
That won't ever happen, this is the strongest the Yen will get against the USD. Right guys... right???
>>5752487
Honestly, It's possible. Estimates went right out the window, and the yen value is soring faster than anyone anticipated. If it keeps it up, we might see 1:90 by the end of the year.
>>5752472
Yeah, I might have dodged the bullet with this order, but I still have one more (smaller than this month) all the way in November. Fuck.
>>5746777
>>5746939
> down 20 yen in a matter of days
Hahahahahahaha
>Yen just jumped from .95 to a dollar to .99 to a dollar
Just fuck my shit fampai, l have to make a mandarake payment tonight.
>>5745702
Same here but I was also paying 2.8k a figma, not 5.
>>5752484
So for 5 years you've been giving paypal extra money instead of deselecting one option on their site.
>>5752531
> Americans complaining about the yen
My syrup dollars are 1:77
>>5752537
Not him but do tell
>>5746149 here, glad I made this decision. You guys need to start thinking beyond HLJ and amiami if you want to keep your collecting habits un-phased by the bear market that is going to dominate 2017.
>tfw you just finished most of your backlog this past month
>and you don't buy many ongoing figures anyway because you decided to just collect more specific things
Feels kinda good, I guess. Afraid how much October is going to cost me when I need to catch up on this year's releases + October's releases, though...
>>5752546
Go on their site and change it so that your currency exchanges are handled through your bank rather than via paypal. It's that simple. Paypal skims a percentage off of each transaction that they themselves process and make millions ever year off of it.
>>5752548
America is the only country that has a decent selection of imports from brand-name stores.
Where I live, the only stores that carry it are hobbyshops that charge up the ass. Might be the end of my collecting days 2bh.
>>5752558
They're probably going to get a massive flood of cancellations in the coming days, so there is no doubt that they are going to tighten up their ban policies. Suck it up and pay the few dollars extra when they ask or take the ban risk.
>>5752562
I'd recommend you jump onto a namefag toy forum, earn a positive rep, and make US friends. It's not uncommon for US collectors to help Aussie collectors that they've befriended by buying retail and shipping as cheaply as possible.
Guys,
Where to preorder 4inch nel for $33???
>>5752554
There's no option to do that. Besides, with fees from banks and CCs, you're paying the same.
Are many /toy/ members financial traders? That is how people are secretly funding their hobby.
>>5752903
There is , it's call using your credit cards own exchange rate , you will need to set it up in setting first . and there's no bank fee or creditcard fee IF YOU use a credit card that do not charge fees for foreign transaction. I just paid for ironman and its 47.36 from my creditcard no fees instead of $50.21 from PayPals own BS exchange rate. If you don't have one of those credit cards then I recommend you go get one to use for future international purchase, will save you tons. All capital one credit cards have no foreign transaction fees.
Fuck, I had a large payment to HLJ just sitting for a day I should've pay right away.
>there are still retards who think things weren't better off when the yen was stronger
Japan having more buying power meant cheaper toys, more frequent releases, more risky releases, more accessories and less web shop bullshittery. Things were better off when the exchange rate was 75-85 for both Japanese consumers and foreigners.
>>5753013
I don't know if it's just my account but paypal tries to default to their exchange system every time I checkout since January this year (it even happens AFTER I change it in my settings).
Basically, I have to manually change it every time I checkout via a link at the center/bottom of the page, which takes me to a menu where I can select how I want to be billed.
>>5745828
MUH NIGGA
>>5752469
Wait, what? Please tell me your secrets. Not that anon, but I have always used PayPal.
1.) How much money have I "lost"?
2.) How do I fix this?
So should we wait to pay for things, or is it just going to get worse from here on?
>>5753144
Get a credit card with no foreign transaction fee, and a better exchange rate than paypal.
>>5752321
Their freedom is more important than your animu figurines.
1 SGD : 75.65 JPY
Oh well, sucks but there's nothing I can do about it.
>>5753144
>>5746574
STEADY NOW
>>5753155
This kinda sucks, We went through this whole thing where the dollar was really high against the yen, and suddenly all the stuff that was sort of reasonable was a bargain. So Japan raised the prices on everything, now we have like a whole year of stuff coming on the market with grossly inflated prices, like figmas with half the accessories and twice the price, and the yen keeps dropping down, so now we have all these expensive fucking things that have a shit exchange rate.
I'm cancelling half my preorders for the rest of the year because with a 20% increase in price thanks to the exchange rate failing, I can't justify them anymore.
>>5753167
What are you cancelling?
>>5753173
buncha titty monsters and figma
>>5753175
Well at least it's more reason to ask yourself whether you REALLY want something instead of a passing fancy.
Canceled all my preorders on amiami for this month
nothing I'm crazy about anyway. hopefully they'll just ban me after my 4th cancellation and I will be free of this curse
Really people. Just wait a week or two for the market to stablize before doing anything drastic. Your preorders aren't going anywhere short of a meteor colliding with Japan.
i wanna cancel a preorder. i have never canceled anything on amiami before. will they ban me?
>>5753213
yes 1 slip-up = DING DONG BANNU
>>5753237
Shiiiiit
>>5753213
They're nicer about partial cancellations, if that means anything...
>>5753175
>collecting titty monsters
Not to insult your tastes or anything, but why?
>>5752461
Nakano, Nagoya and Kokura are based. SAHRA's p good.
Everyone else a shit.
>>5753213
It's random. I'm going on my second not-paid preorder and no banu.
>>5753267
Some people value sculpted form over articulated playthings with dolljoints.
And some of those people happen to also enjoy lascivious 3d pinups.
>>5753121
Neat, retard, but we're talking about the current situation where the yen is extremely strong against the dollar but Japan's manufacturing sector has priced their exports with higher JPY MSRP to counterbalance when it was weaker.
Insert your talking point in 6 months when the scale is swinging the other way and it will be worth something.
>>5745757
>pay for 10k Amiami order today
>$130 CAD
JUST
>>5753495
It's gotten to the point where one 6 inch figure is nearing 100 bucks.
I want off this ride
I only have two preorders on amiami. I'm not cancelling them, but they'll certainly be the last for a while unless something changes.
Those figures better be amazing.
>>5753213
I think I've had like 2-3 orders that I just didn't pay this year alone, and I've never been banned.
I do buy from them pretty often though.
>>5753283
Shibuya is fine too, but they and Nakano tend to have higher prices (but more selection) due to location.
I've always had my problems from Osaka/Grandchaos, whether it's them always taking almost 4 days just to verify the stock, them screwing up my address, and/or it taking forever to get out of Japan's customs let alone arriving to my country.
But fuck, they had an item I wanted for only 10k instead of the average 12k it goes for...
>>5753505
Yup, under $70 for a new import is a bargain these days.
>>5753782
What do you buy?
The average figure I buy is like $55 (4400 yen) after typical discounts.
>>5753495
>browse amiibos because why not
>totakeke ¥1.4k, kappn ¥500, samus ¥500
>flip out as they're $15+tax retail each
>ends up $42 CAD with shipping
>RSAL so have to wait a couple weeks
hello darkness my old friend
>>5753816
I'm counting shipping(and I use Rsal), but anything in the 5k range really.
>>5753826
>RSAL so have to wait a couple weeks
Takes like 2.5 weeks at the complete most.
Problem is that Canada Post may go on strike yet again because they're being a bunch of greedy asses.
>>5753862
Will the strike affect the order I placed like a week ago? I also bought something from a fellow canadanon, that should be shipped today, fucking hell postfags are the worst
>>5753860
Bro, unless you have to, don't be paying orders with only 1-2 items.
>>5753816
Why do people like you always forget shipping? You know it's not just some imaginary number right?
>>5753879
Yeah, but 5100+yen is still about $65.
No matter what it's very expensive.
>>5753879
>amiami literally releases one figure a month per line
Ok.
>>5753826
>Manage to score the new Splatoon amiibo + dioramas with HLJ because fuck you, CAD$85, with tax for the entire thing is too much
>Total is 7600JPY, sans EMS shipping, judging from Ami, probably gonna be 4500JPY
>12100 is 153CAD, immediately cancelled the amiibos and went for the Dioramas instead
Suffering.
I'm gonna risk it and pre-order the MonHun amiibo + diorama on AmiAmi
>>5753896
what?
>>5753944
There aren't enough figures that are worth getting more than one or two a month and hlj has jew prices
>>5753896
>he buys from amiami
Private Warehouse, nub.
>>5754013
Then just buy them on the 1st day of the upcoming month, unless it's actually something that sells out quickly like SHFSS.
Even with HLJ's "jew prices" (either equal-300yen more typically), you'd still be saving money by not wasting it on R-SAL shipping every month.
>>5753128
I've had paypal still use their conversion even after I selected it for a specific transaction during checkout.
I've also had paypal use a different card than the one i selected during checkout.
Paypal is retarded.
>>5754563
>retarded
No, Paypal is smart, and greedy. They know what they're doing. Millions of transactions annually, and they make every effort to obscure the means by which you can stop them from taking more money from you. And when you do find the way to stop them, they refuse to retain your options and you have to change it every time, betting that at least a few times you'll forget.
>>5754588
No.
They designed a system to work a certain way,
and it doesn't work that way.
They're retarded.
>>5754449
depending on the item , the price are normally more, it can range from 300yen, to 900 yen, to 2000 yen. it really depends on the item too.
even with PW and the cheaper shipping, if HLJ's price is 800 yen more than Amiami for a figma, you might as well get it from Amiami and select SAL shipping.
>>5754604
but it does, it's just have 1 default option that you can not change. Checking account always be the default, so you will have to change it every time to credit card for any new transaction.
But you can get around it only if you setup a billing agreement with them for the particular store and in that setting you can then select the credit card for payment ( which I have already changed to use VISA's conversion rate).
So example. with CDjapan, once I summit my order, Paypal will automatically use my creditcard to pay to CDjapan.
>>5754604
It's designed exactly how they want it: ineffective. Do you really not understand that them making a shitty system basically gives them free money?
>>5757523
ah the old "i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i?"
classic
>>5757534
>he thinks a company that handles billions of dollars annually would accidentally have a shitty user interface that just so happens to give them millions of free dollars every year due entirely to its labyrinthian and obscured preferences
You are a dense one, that's for sure. We can only pray your ugliness matches your stupidity and you never breed.
>>5757517
do you know that most of those issues are cause by the user? that person did not double check before confirming payment. When I say it Defaults, I mean it. So if that user change anything like address or any selection while in the middle of making that payment transaction, it will most likely go back to default payment instead of whatever he selected earlier. And since he didn't recheck before confirming payment, he goes and blame it on someone else. This looks like user error to me. I have use paypal for a long time from selecting different form of payment to own currency conversions, to paypal credti etc NOT ONCE did it change on it's own after confirming payment, you just need to really confirm your selections before hitting that final confirm button, that's all.
Paypal has it's faults, sometimes you can't even change to paying with credit card when you use a invoice link from a email. But you just need to double check and don't pay when that happens. just log into paypal in PC setting on your mobile phone and all the options will be open to you.
>$50 figma.
>>5746407
>1 BRL:30.17 JPY
Sucks to be a BR monkey, but now it's even worse
>>5757576
Fuck me this is getting ridiculous now. The Haruhi figmas came with way more accessories than these with the same Figma quality and they were 2000-3000 yen. I know inflation is a thing but fucking hell.
>>5757618
But you'll buy it anyway.
>>5757621
The only Figmas I really buy are older ones off of Mandarake if I find a good deal.
I don't have any interest in Love Live and I think for what you get this moe moe chick isn't worth anywhere near that amount, so my wallet is safe from this fuckery.
>>5745834
Canada has it rough.
