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>>5725869
>TFC is your new favorite company edition
kek
>>5725869
Obligatory "how tall are these?" post
Part of me want this just for that
WTF does that wiener mobile transform
>>5726039
>>5726047
Well that was fast
>>5726059
>>5726059
What is this and where can i get one?
>>5725869
>TFC
>favorite
They don't seem to be MMC or IF, they don't seem to be those at all!
So much time invested just to make these look like shit.
>Waiting for the last two parts of Hades to drop
Never gone in for a combiner in pieces like this, shit's torture.
>>5726116
>not waiting until every piece is out, fully reviewed, in both regular modes and gestalt
Damn son, you got balls of steel. I wouldn't dare touch a 3P combiner without at least full reviews from no less than 3 reviewers. So many of them have turned out to be raw shit, and they're way too much money to waste.
>>5726115
If you squint you can almost pretend it's CW and that you only spent $150 on it.
>>5726125
Not to mention the $100 discounts from the regret buyers.
>>5726125
>not waiting until every piece is out, fully reviewed, in both regular modes and gestalt
Don't forget knocked off twice at 20% of the original price
>>5726125
I was unsure at first but after seeing wotafa review how the feet work and how amazing the sculpt, paint and plastic were compared to anything tfc had made before, I was willing to go all in. Pretty fucking worth it so far, save for stress marks on Killbison's pointless leg tabs. If they break all that'll happen is that in tank mode his back panel will be slightly easier to pull up. Things are near perfect.
Literally the only thing I want at this point is some tabs for the breast animals' heads, but even then that'd compromise breastplate mode.
>>5726116
I know that feel bro, I'm waiting on Aiakos and Hypnos too, but the wait shouldn't be too much longer. I, however will double-down on my stupidity and pre-order Big Bite very soon.
>>5726126
It's ok that you got buyers remorse with club foot.
>>5726115
I never understood why some people are so fanatical about these guys. They've always looked terrible to me, or at least terrible at the price. People keep acting like they're the best 3rd party thing ever made though. Its a lot like the people who love Bad Cube's dwarf series, but without the quality to back it up.
>>5726155
>club foot
What
>>5726073
New Product from MPT ,
19cm tall ,
Priced at 78 RMB
looks like bumblebee got the matrix
>>5726148
Problem is I'll most likely be waiting an extra week or two if the previous guys were any indication. I order from Ages 3+ since I can drive to their physical store and therefore zero shipping, but despite getting every other release from 3rd party and hastak at the same times as BBTS and others, their TFC stuff always comes three weeks late.
>>5726139
wait am I going colorblind or is that Leozack light blue instead of green?
I asked in the old thread but I'll ask again here Is the MMC Greatshot any good?
>>5726283
Thats the remolded Hexatron right? In which case, yeah, he's just Hexatron in new colors/different heads. And Hexatron is the gold standard for 3P toys.
>>5726139
I wish they came with other weapons than their breast plates and alt mode parts. I know they had more in the show, and the breast animal gun modes are a tad weak and not worth breaking up the look for
>>5726177
He's probably just talking about the stupid reverse cab they put on mixmaster that gives devastator a tiny left foot. 4th party has taken care of that though.
>>5726289
For ugly 3P toys maybe
>>5726814
nice try
>>5726283
Wait for the cheaper and improved Clonedroid version.
>tfw thinking about splurging on Guardia.
I just pulled out Quantron and stuck the shadow fisher thing on him and I'm feeling a mighty need. I already got a Rover because I thought he looked cool.
>>5726115
i REALLY like that Longhaul. Everyone else can take a hike though
>>5726059
>Well that was fast
what was fast?
>>5726928
>reverse search that image
>get this
Ok, I'm not even mad.
>>5726928
Source and I'll give you my opinion
>>5726940
thebootydoc
>>5727036
>It's the best looking Defensor in my opinion, but the individual bots are just unappealing to me
there's such a dissonance between the accuracy of the combined mode and the robots, its so weird
maybe the designer thought people will just care about the combined mode, and decided to experiment with the individuals?
maketoys defensor is very nice though, he's basically a beefed up, anime version of the CW toy. They even changed the head to look more like the CW toy (It was more toy accurate in the concept art)
>>5727049
CW is pretty much top notch for head sculpts
...for the most part.
>>5727049
Reallly makes me hope they will tackle the Combaticons next. I really want to see Bruticus done in the same style as Defensor, and I'm totally down for pretty cool redesigns on the Slaught squad.
>>5727126
I really dont want that to happen. Because I know i'll buy it.
I'm very selective with what I get, but I will pretty much buy any good Combaticon team.
I have the Colossus set, I have the UW set on preorder, I'd buy a new 3P FOC Bruticus, and I'd buy THE FUCK out of a Maketoys Bruticus
>>5727128
So did the Warbotron one like not live up to your standards?
(this is a real question, I don't know if it might sound disingenuous)
Quakewave or Quakeblast?
>>5727401
>>5727401
This looks like a thousand times better.
>>5727323
Quakeblast is completely on par in terms of quality and a lot cheaper. I also personally really like the colors and the beefy proportions. But yeah if you like the looks of both just get Quakeblast it's such a good deal for the price
>>5727236
>So did the Warbotron one like not live up to your standards?
Unfortunately, yeah... the aesthetic is a bit too different for my taste, also they're just so huge!
>(this is a real question, I don't know if it might sound disingenuous)
Dont worry about it brother~
>>5727323
Quakewave if you like ugly legs, extra blocky, and paying a lot more.
Quakeblast if you like money and want something more sexier but don't mind being cautious of the thigh swivel.
>>5727461
I managed to get a second run Quakewave at about $100 which is what I feel he should have gone for to begin with. He's a very good figure, just expensive. But he was my first major 3p purchase and I still love him. He's just so hefty. I'd like to get QB and the MP too though. All three would look great displayed together.
>>5727466
I got mine from the same sale. Love him, but not worth more than 100
>>5727466
I think the reason why Quakewave was expensive was simply because there was no competition, let alone a good figure of G1 Shockwave at the time.
If he had been released later, like when the MP was first teased, his retail would be a lot lower.
That said, the things I'd do for something like an MMC Reformatted TFA Shockwave...
>>5726009
Voyager size, so too big.
>>5727477
That makes sense. He was pretty early in the 3p MP wars and holds up a lot better than many older 3p products.
>>5727443
>Quakeblast is completely on par in terms of quality and a lot cheaper.
Where do you even find him? The only place I've seen him, he's priced just as high as the MP/Wave.
>>5727546
For whatever reason, Quakeblast has always mostly just been sold on eBay. You can get it for about 75 shipped.
>>5727491
>so too big.
For you maybe.
>>5727553
From a US shipper or chinese? Not gonna lie, I have 0 faith in chinese shippers what with all the horror stories of people being swindled by them.
>>5727568
Your only options really are Chinese, or you pay extra to get some US/Europe to send you it since they have to middleman it.
Cloud 9 is a Chinese company, who knew?
>>5727568
All Chinese, but you just pick one with a lot of transactions and 100% positive feedback. I don't know why people are so mystified by eBay lol.
Also usually the "swindling" that occurs with Chinese eBay sellers is just them selling a lot of knockoffs (which are most of the time super obvious because the price is way too low to be the real thing and the description says something like "CHINA VERSION"), and it's almost impossible to be scammed by a seller on eBay because eBay's policies insure and favor the buyer so hard.
It's almost impossible to be a scammer on eBay as a seller anymore. It used to be more of a thing you could worry about with like new accounts without many sales, but nowadays if you're a new user or don't sell stuff all the time they even keep the money and won't give it to you until the buyer has confirmed that they're satisfied with the transaction, so that if anything goes wrong they can refund them and there's no way for you to cheat around it. If you want to scam people on eBay, you pretty much have to do it as the buyer.
>>5726939
One of bay's new decepticons
>>5727582
>I don't know why people are so mystified by eBay lol.
Because sometimes chinese accounts go full retard, take all the money, and disappear. Even ones in good standing. And yeah, eBay will generally cover your ass, but no one wants to have to wait for them to decide your case is valid, and then refund you whenever.
>>5727652
>Hippietronicus Maximus
>with headmaster, the notorious pyromaniac known Blazit and powermaster Bongo
>has the ability to produce disorienting smoke screens
>however, has an abnormally high energon consumption rate
>>5727582
The way some Chinese scammer work. Is Have an account or buy a one that has the Paypal restrictions unlocked.(If you new to eBay selling Money from your sales are held pending for a few weeks)
Once these sellers will meet the requirements, they sale at a low price like MP-10 for $50 or MP Hot Rod for $30 with free shipping. People dumb enough will buy it on the Chance it is legit(I guess hoping it is a listing mistake or crazy person) using paypal/eBay buyer protection as the fall back.
Seller uploads bullshit tracking to stall eBay and buyers, meanwhile transferring the paypal funds out.
Best way to deal with buying from China is a bit of research alot of the reputable dealers have been on ebay for years and maybe even google their user name sometime they might have a tread about them in a forum.
>>5726195
I wish this was a little more articulated (not seeing explicit evidence of bicep/wrist/waist articulation, and the feet obviously don't move), but MAN I would love to own a transforming VW bus. Hopefully it sells for cheap so I can justify the simplicity, too bad it's not legends scale.
>>5727736
even the reputable dealers aren't 100% safe, since these accounts tend to get hacked & stolen from the good sellers all the time, or a seller decides to quit the business but sells the account.
>>5727893
Agreed, if you do buy from China keep track of the time. you have a finite amount of time to file a claim(45 days) Scammers will state a long ass delivery time to milk the time.
If it get close to 45 days and you have not got the item file a claim.
You get your money back
My Sister is in the process of filing a claim with eBay. She bought the 3rd Party Krang for 110 Which I was just informed she got her money back.
Here are my tips from buying form China.
1.read feedback
2. How long then been on eBay
3. Constant items they sell(If they were selling cheap pool toys then now selling 3rd party stuff)
4. They use their own photos(If it just stock photo it is a red flag)
It is no guarantee Maybe if eBay put in a escrow system like Ali express for China sellers.
>>5728082
>That Apronmaster Arcee
Holy shit that's brilliant.
>>5728082
>you have a finite amount of time to file a claim(45 days)
They bumped that to 180 days sometime in 2014
>>5728092
ah that makes sense
i thought it was an upside down bj
hangon i gotta stop 69ing to cook this crab
>>5727401
>>5727404
My MP shelf needs a Jazz but, I'm not sure if this is the one...
>>5728141
Glad I'm not the only one that saw this.
So, what are some inexcuseable things in 3P craftsmanship that you think should be an industry standard by this time? Within reason I mean, obviously some of these you couldn't fit on a Legends-sized figure like IF puts out. Heres a few of mine:
>no individually jointed fingers and thumb
What are we, fucking barbarians?
>not keeping weapons to 5mm pegs to increase playability
So much shit, official and not, uses this measurement. No excuse to not exploit this for additional fun.
>no toe joints for easier posing
Self explanatory. Can be excused if the transformation couldn't possibly allow it.
>not ensuring the area around the head has a molded dip into it for posing 'bots with big fat chins or super fat brick heads down/up further
Such an easy thing to add, why does no one do this?
>>5728187
>no individually jointed fingers and thumb
Unless it's a large toy like Armada Unicron, I just don't see the point. Smaller hands just feel as flimsy as those Jazwares Sonic figures that would often break in the packages.
>>5728190
I'd think Voyager sized and up figures could easily accommodate it.
>>5728203
They always end up looking too small. Hinged knuckle is the way to go.
>>5728187
5mm pegs should be a rule for all transformers toys. Even MPs should have that as an option
otherwise i dont see your other suggestions as being necessities. I dont see toe joints as being important for robots. Human action figures, sure, but the majority robot toys dont have those
>>5728187
>no individually jointed fingers and thumb
These suck because they usually end up with tiny baby hands like Hexatron
>>5728358
Nothing stops them from making them bigger to be honest. Also Hexatron's a special case, most 'bots aren't expected to have 6 forms.
>>5728377
Quit being a lil paranoid bitch and just buy from a Chinese seller whose feedback is modern and positive.
And no, there's no KOs of the KO, especially since the actual figure is cheap already.
>>5726115
They look pretty good but I have the MP line now and just can't follow $600 combiners.
Where do y'all buy your shit from?
>>5728678
I bitched and moaned at BBTS enough that they get my stuff shipped same/next day, so that's where I go.
>>5728678
The Chosen Prime is probably the best place to order from generally speaking
I actually order my shit from BBTS, but that's just because I can bundle shipments together between 3P TFs and some of the other stuff I collect.
But Chosen Prime, BBTS, and TFSource all have kind of identical prices and policies, Chosen Prime just tends to get stuff earlier and ship faster
>>5728678
I've used TFsource, BBTS,The Chosen Prime, Captured Prey, Action Robo, Planet Steel Express, and Uncle Billy's shop. Never had any problems with any of my orders and Q/C issues were resolved.
My number one place is The Chosen Prime since they get shit in the fastest and ship same day with the same free shipping and point reward bonuses as everywhere else. TFS was my goto until they started fucking around taking eons to receive stock and then seven years to ship it when it comes in. They do have the best sales though. I would use Captured Prey more since they do the discount thing but it always feels like whatever I want there is out of stock or not carried at all.
>>5727652
All things considered, a broken-down looking old clunker makes for a better disguise than a brand-new hot rod.
>>5728909
Is that really possible?
>>5728187
>5mm peg weapons
>Fully posable hands
Pick one. Otherwise you end up with terrible looking hands like hexatron or that awful Skyfire.
What's a good 3p Bombshell?
I see there are 3 different ones, tempted to get the ninja one
>>5729215
Depends what scale you like.
For CHUG the FP "Ninja" one is your best bet. For MP scale, the FansToys version takes some beating.
>>5729215
I can attest that the ninja one is good but I don't have the other ones to compare
Anyone else plan on picking this guy up?
>inb4 BUH HE DONT TRANSFORM
>>5729271
He doesn't transform. I'd rather get the EX Gokin.
>>5729271
>doesn't transform
>isn't super posable
>meh tier design
Literally what's the point
>>5729271
but seriously though
it doesn't even transform
and it's 140 burgerbucks
and it's like Leader size for some reason? which makes it feel even weirder that it doesn't transform?
I don't get it. I feel like if it was around 6 inches and half the price I think it would make a lot more sense.
>>5729271
things like this should not cost more than $20. I'd be up for a ML-tier Action Master revival, but only with cheap prices. Asking more for a toy that does less than the transforming versions is bullshit.
>inb4 those licensed Sofubi Soap figures are priced at $170
Those things warrant $10 each.
>>5729271
I ordered him, been looking forward to the release for quite awhile. I never minded the "doesn't transform" aspect since most of my Transformers never transform, it's more of an afterthought for me.
>>5729358
I don't know what people mean by him not being posable though, he seems pretty posable to me.
>>5729362
That said, this is an official product, my first Hasbro purchase in years.
>>5729367
I think 9" is fine too, it makes him more imposing in CHUG scale. Now we just need Megatron.
>>5728909
Yeah, Even with free shipping TFsource will ship it the slowest way possible with a $6 option for it to ship faster(which they won't tell you how much faster).
At least they change how TFsource points work. It was a borderline scam before.
Not even BBTS marked Groove up this much.
I like the Chosen Prime.
I wish BBTS embraced Things like free shipping, reward points, or discount after spending X amount. Damn even a coupon once in awhile.
>>5729387
Yes, those are good points. You don't like how big it is or the way it looks so I guess that puts it completely off your radar.
I like the size and the aesthetic, so I feel that it's worth $130. As a company, Oritoy produces quality pieces, so I have little doubt that the figure is of sound construction.
>>5729367
It's an official product but it's not made by Hasbro. It's made by Ori Toy.
>>5729400
>You don't like how big it is
I said nothing of the sort.
I dislike the fact it's a $30-$40 toy at most, being sold for $140, which is a straight ripoff. I dislike the fact it's greebled and hideous.
And yet it still cost less than the Soap Studios figurines, which are barely detailed and cost $170, for $10 figurines.
This shit is just overpriced and anyone paying it is retarded.
>>5729412
I mean it's 9" and diecast with a high part count and a lot of paint apps, if you think $30-40 is how much that should cost, then you must think literally every toy on the market is overpriced.
I'm not saying it should be $140 either, but you're definitely full of shit
>>5728909
That gif is fucking great.
>>5729412
>People like what I don't like so they're retards!
That's a great opinion you have there, and you're welcome to it, but it doesn't make you right.
If you aren't interested in the product, you've already said so, so just be quiet now, we know how you feel already.
Lambasting others for wanting something you don't is what's actually retarded.
>>5729362
>I don't know what people mean by him not being posable though, he seems pretty posable to me.
see those wheels on his hips? those things will kill any outward leg movement this toy might have. Such a dumb design choice for a non transforming action figure. you can literally not have the wheels there
>>5729432
i'll continue my point by saying that i'd TOTALLY buy transformers action figures. thing is, they dont need to be gigantic, and the aesthetic could use some work
Just give me a Revoltech of Obari Optimus Prime (Pic related) and I'd be set
>>5729432
>Not even trying
At this point I'm sure most naysayers haven't even looked further than what's shown up in this thread. This literally took 2 seconds to find. He has better range than most Fansproject Dinobots, and people seem to like those things.
>>5729444
>I'm sure most naysayers haven't even looked further than what's shown up in this thread.
man i told you im interested in optimus action figures, i've seen all the pics of this toy.
what im saying is, for a $100+ non transforming transformer, it should have more articulation
maybe you're satisfied with the outward movement and i understand, but I feel a dynamic sculpt like that deserves dynamic poseability.
>>5729205
Why couldn't you do both? Poseable hands that come with 5mm weapons ala how MMC does it, or just making sure the hands are QC'd well enough that they can just wrap the fingers around the weapon to hold it?
>>5729271
Just buy the old Revoltech for cheap at that point.
>>5729448
Well then, I believe we will agree to disagree and leave as friends.
Realistically, promo shots rarely do justice to the full range of motion and we won't actually know until he is released. I'll let you know how he is at the end of the month when I get him in.
>>5729458
shitty Dreamwave aesthetic though...
>>5729455
>or just making sure the hands are QC'd well enough that they can just wrap the fingers around the weapon to hold it
I have literally never seen this work THAT well on a single toy in my entire life. It works to a degree that is like...acceptable on a lot of 3A bots. I wouldn't say it works perfectly on any of them. So I don't think it's a matter of good QC vs bad QC. I always find myself wanting a way to secure things better.
Ideally figures with big enough hands to support it should come with poseable fingers that can like hold stuff as well as they can like get it to, but all the accessories that come with the figure should also have a way to tab into the hand more securely if you want or need it.
So if you want to pose the figure like holding a sword really realistically in their fingers you can do it, but also if you want to just stick it straight in their hand and know that it's in there securely, you can also tab it into the palm or something.
>>5729448
>, it should have more articulation
What the fuck do you want? For it to be able to suck its own dick? If can afford it, thats fine, but dont shit up the thread with your sour grapes.
>>5729482
>It's MP sized.
Literally what's the difference that made you think this was somehow a necessary correction? MP Optimus is the size of a normal leader class figure. Same fucking thing.
>>5729487
look here fucker, if i want Optimus Prime to be able to suck his own dick, that's my own goddamn business alright? now leave me at once, heathen
>>5729448
This is my exact problem with this figure.
They can charge $140, they can make it not transformable, it's not like there haven't been other Optimus figures like that before. The problem lies in what it does to make up for those lost features. There are transforming optimus figures with more articulation than this thing.
>head not showcased to look all the way up or even down at all
>wrist on swivels only
>wheels inhibit full splits
>shitty range in ankle joints
So if it's not a transforming transformer. It's not super articulated. It's not full gokin. Again I ask,
Literally what's the point
>>5729482
No. It isn't. People might as well just buy the old Revoltech optimus, since that 8+ year old, $100 less figure has this one beat in every joint, besides the wrists, which are literally the same, and are arguably better on the revoltech because there are swappable hands. The only reason I can concede people will want this is to be size kings. That's it.
>>5729487
That isn't the point.
>>5729483
>I have literally never seen this work THAT well on a single toy in my entire life.
Works perfect on my Hexatron and my PE combiner hands. They can even hold Shockwave, which many people bitch they can't get him held (you gotta bend the fingers the right way, takes some fiddling to do).
>>5729513
>There are transforming optimus figures with more articulation than this thing.
Show me one in the same scale please.
Basically your argument is that is not in your price range. And thats OK, im sure there are more affordable option out there for you.
>>5729516
yeah your standards for what qualifies as perfect are apparently just a lot lower than mine then, and I don't mean that as a jab at all, I know "you must have low standards" is a meaningless insult that gets regurgitated on this board a lot, but I just mean plainly that I think I'm a lot pickier than you are. I'm literally autistic so that might have something to do with it lol
>>5729513
>This is my exact problem with this figure.
Glad you agree
>So if it's not a transforming transformer. It's not super articulated. It's not full gokin. Again I ask,
>Literally what's the point
Hmm, the only thing left is the sculpt I suppose, but even then i find alot of people on threads who dont like how it looks
i think it looks alright tho
but yeah, at this point, this toy is like a niche of a niche of a niche
>>5729518
>Basically your argument is that is not in your price range
that doesnt seem to be his argument at all, to me.
>>5726059
shit tier transformation scheme
>>5729458
A rundown of all relevant Prime action figures:
Mega SCF Prime:
Articulation: shit
Looks: legs look pretty good, everything else is shit
Revoltech Prime:
Articulated to a degree (its an older revoltech)
Looks like shit (Dreamwave style)
EX Gokin Prime:
Good articulation, very well hidden joints
Tries to be cartoon accurate, but the sculpt, proportion and some of the color is fucked up. Looks like shit
Hot Toys Prime:
Good articulation
His face is fucked up, looks fat
(also, he's huge)
Ultimetal Prime:
Good articulation
Looks like MP-10 for some reason?
(also, he's XBOXHUEG)
Oritoy Prime:
Well articulated in most places
Odd chunky, sorta anime, sorta toy accurate style, might not be for everyone
There's an upcoming one by Toyalliance, but it seems to be gigantic too, for some reason
At this point I'm thinking we'll never get that perfect Prime action figure. The best one is probably the D-Style Prime, but its a model kit, and its SD..
>>5729520
Well, in this case, my definition of "perfect" is "It holds the weapon straight, without the weapon shaking or losing the weapon with a good, strong shake of the toy in hand".
Hexatron can do that no problem, as can the PE hands, but CW Ultra Magnus for example, most definitely cannot.
I do tend to like those 3/4th cut in grooves in hands too with articulated fingers.
>>5729518
>Show me one in the same scale please.
MP-10 has the Oritoy one beat in every point I brought up; head, neck, hips, ankles, and the wrists are equal
>Basically your argument is that is not in your price range.
What? Did you even read the post?
>>5729561
>MP-10 has the Oritoy one beat in every point I brought up
>MP-10 has good articulation
Awwww, dis nigga right here.
And though you were bein serious.
You got me senpai
>>5729570
He has a point. That thing is statueshit at best.
>>5729570
But it does. The oritoy one can't look up as high as MP-10 or even down. MP-10 can do the splits without unwarranted wheels getting in the way, and it can do a wide stance with both its feet flat on the ground.
As an added point of contestance, MP-10 can make a proper pointing hand without looking like he has arthritis. I mean look at this shit, are you pointing at me or trying to give me a titty twister
Also, I think you're forgetting the most important point here, MP-10 can do all this and STILL TRANSFORM INTO A TRUCK. I don't even know how we're having this argument right now.
>>5729609
they both have good and bad articulation
MP-10's elbows and knees just go 90 degrees, like what the fuck
your point still stands, though. i was just clarifying
>3p General is getting trolled by a shill
This is hillarious.
>>5729666
>getting trolled by a shill
Implying anyone would waste the time to employ a shill on toy.
>>5729671
If people can waste time and money on youtubers to shill, they can do this too.
>>5729544
>that feeling when you learned this was made by Fans Project in disguise
>>5729674
Except that's not a waste of time and money because youtube reviews reach thousands of people, and paying someone to shill in a fucking /toy/ thread would be a complete waste of time and money because it would reach 20 people.
>>5729702
>20 people
Either you're underestimating the volume of people that go in and out of /toy/ or you're the shill trying to control the damage.
>>5729710
That's my estimate of how many people are realistically going to read a couple posts in one general thread on here, if that was someone's attempt to "shill" something, not how many people go on the board in total.
>>5729632
MP 10 also has shit forward and backward hip articulation
>>5729710
Toy has roughly 500 regulars and only a fraction of those ever go into this thread.
>>5729609
The best part about this is that one of the figures in question hasn't even been released yet, so no one actually knows, it's all just assumptions at this point.
>>5729745
>As far as business terms go, if you are a small company, it doesn't matter how small the group, if one person buys then it's a win.
I own a small company, and actually that's fucking stupid. There are times where we've spent a bunch of time and money doing something promotional and seen no noticeable increase in sales. But "no noticeable increase in sales" probably means like, ok there were sales as a result of what we did but it was 3 people or something. That's not a win, though. That's a loss. We either spent more money than we gained or spent money that could have yielded a bigger gain elsewhere, and that means we fucked up, so we have to rethink what we're doing, and spend our time and money somewhere better.
Do you know how many "somewhere betters" there are out there for a toy company to be promoting their shit than in the middle of a general thread on /toy/?
Also if this thread has 50 unique posters than honestly wow because I was probably pretty spot on with my estimate that 20 people read any given post. I pulled that out of my ass but I bet it's about right.
>>5729757
>I own a small company
There's your fucking problem. If you're a small company, advertising to such a small audience is in fact wasteful. But Oritoys isn't considered to be a typical small company.
>>5729765
Yep, you know more than the guy that own a business. sure.
Go back to your chicken tendies and Doritos faggot.
Surprised at the blowback towards Quakewave in this thread. I still love mine.
>>5729765
I was literally responding to someone who was talking about what "a small company" should do and prioritize.
And my small company is a videogame developer that honestly probably has a really similar size of customer base to Ori Toy, we both sell our products worldwide via the internet, and we both make a product for a small, specific niche of nerds, so marketing efforts are probably comparable in terms of what is and isn't worth it.
Obviously, yeah, our companies are different, because we're selling digital media for like $10 a pop and they're manufacturing high end goods, so they have way higher costs and also way higher revenue per customer, so they're overall bigger in scale than we are even if the number of customers is similar, but from a marketing standpoint there's not much difference.
>>5729785
Amazing rebuttal, comrade.
>>5729787
I think I was one of the people dissing on Quakewave and it's really not that there's anything at all wrong with it, it's just that you can get Quakeblast for so much cheaper, and it's a really similar figure that's overall slightly nicer. Obviously Quakewave did a lot right because Quakeblast straight up stole the transformation scheme from it wholesale lol it's just they had the opportunity to literally look at Quakewave and go "let's rip off the good things about this but slightly improve on it and offer it for cheaper" so it was kind of easy for them to win that one, cause it wasn't exactly a head-to-head competition.
So I bought these two bros recently and love them
Thing is, I hate hanging on to packaging, I don't buy shit to resell it, but I'd feel like a dick for tossing them out
Are boxes the type of thing some people might want on ebay or whatever or should I feel cool tossing them
I don't care about trying to make money off them, I just don't want to waste something
>>5729859
If they're REALLY nice boxes I could see someone going for it, but you'd probably just be better off tossing them if you'd rather not hold onto them.
>>5729871
The bros resell for quite a bit. I imagine no boxes would lessen that.
Seriously though, fucking reprint these guys already. I missed out.
>>5729871
Theyre just basic card backs so I'll just toss them then
>>5729884
Yeah, ebay listing go for around 100 but I lucked out and nabbed them from BST for 20 each, but I've got 0 intention of resale value, unless at some point hasbro produces amazing ones by some miracle but I doubt any new renditions would be better enough
>>5729859
Who makes these guys?
>>5729859
I own these guys, boxes and all. If you're up for it, pull the cards out of the plastic and keep those instead, maybe in a folder somewhere. Then toss the plastic.
>>5729907
A dead company.
>>5729907
They were made by mech ideas
Demolition crue apex and geminus
Mech ideas did some cool stuff
Any thoughts on MMC Spartan? I just won a loose one at Ebay for around 67. Decided to gamble since I love the Spartan design.
>>5729965
Alt mode could look less like a duck and honestly you have to like the colors, but he works with the proportions a lot better than Turmoil does. He has more paint to bring out the chest detailing and a bunch of accessories too.
>>5729965
He's fantastic and you got a great deal.
>>5729925
>A dead company.
The fate of all who venture into the danger zone known as animated.
>>5729991
I was watching those auctions, didn't realize they went off, shit. Was curious what they were gonna go for, was thinking of bidding on Turmoil. They're remolds of each other, but Turmoil turns into the tank from Metal Slug which is why I want the big fighty bastard.
Pretty much everything from MMC is pretty damn good. They and Iron Factory are probably the highest quality 3P companies.
>>5730001
Yeah I mainly bought Turmoil for the Metal Slug aesthetic. Spartan just looked cool and I'm a fan of the colors.
Also Hexatron needs company till Carnifex releases this year so I figured why not.
>>5730009
>the fucking Gravity Rush figure
Holy shit!
>>5728678
britbong here, so my choices are pretty much KapowToys, KapowToys, KapowToys, Masterforce UK, and Kapowtoys.
So KapowToys.
Bought from BBTS once [platinum edition bruticus plus the X-transbots Boosticus set]
Those shipping and customs prices man. Never again.
>>5728678
BBTS pretty much. They've replaced shit quick and easy when I've had problems (my brand new Hexatron came without any guns, for example, shot them an e-mail, they had a set of guns shipped out the next day), and have answered any questions I had swiftly.
My other stuff I usually get off eBay and Amazon. Between them and BBTS, I usually find a good price for all of my weebshit and Amerindian partsforming reformation cyborgs.
>>5729385
cool thing I got mine on Amazon for $17 free shipping last week.
>>5729930
I wanted that little guy so bad but got scared off by those exploding thigh swivels everyone omplained about when he came out.
>>5727401
This has literally no place with anything else in my collection and I think I'm going to buy it anyway.
>>5729385
Got 3 from Amazon, 2 at a later date. I got pretty lucky with that figure. I only wish the split wheel was better, it's annoying as fuck to combine the halves.
KFC Junkions have a review up. Looks like they are above and beyond all of KFC's previous releases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SObu2fLfoA
>>5730432
Why do you want 5 of them?
>>5730508
4 for limbs on sky reign, 1 to scalp I assume.
>>5730433
>above and beyond all of KFC's previous releases
So instead of being rancid bloody diarhea in front of everyone during your wedding, so foul and voluminous it causes your bride to run from the altar into traffic, it's a semi-solid but bloodless shart during an important business meeting that leaves everyone staring at you in disgust?
>>5730511
According to the review, it actually seems to be really solid. Nothing looks loose, and he mentions the fingers are made out of a less brittle plastic that previous KFC hands are, also that the die-cast isn't put in retarded places. Only the thighs and feet.
>>5730433
Ben shills for everyone, or more accurately likes everything he buys or gets sent. But regardless that does look like a step up for KFC.
>>5729482
>MP size
>doesn't transform
Did you know HLJ has MP-10 on sale right now? If I didn't have it I would have probably instantly bought it. MP-10 would be more bang than this statueshit.
>>5730433
>any other company releases Junkions
>y'know the KFC Junkions were good for their time
>*unintelligible grunting noises*
>but these are THE definitive Junkions
>*britishisms profusely*
>absolutely go out and buy these guys
>I lit'ry cannot recommend them enough
>>5730630
WHAT
did not know
How much?
i really want tiny black shadow
goddamn those transparent wings are boss
>>5730788
Gotta wonder why this guy has no media appearances besides being tortured and killed by the DJD.
>>5730984
He's a japanese-only character
IDW shits on Japanese characters
>>5730995
>IDW shits on Japanese characters
>>5730997
I guess he's an exception, luckily
>>5730997
Overlord was released in Europe, which is why James Roberts knew the toy and made him the memetic badass in IDW.
So Overlord's not really an exception to the "shits on Japanese characters".
>>5729444
>people seem to like those things.
News to me.
http://tfsource.com/gigapower/hq02-grassor/
I'm glad I held off on Fanstoys. I loved Guttur, and I'm ready for Grassor to be just as cool.
>>5731416
>>5731420
>>5731448
And yeah I know it says IF in the pics. Just saying.
>>5731448
Iron Factory Drift and Deadlock.
>>5731196
I feel you, I think we're some of the few that prefer Gigapower's Dinobots. FT fits in more with the regular stuff, but GPs just look cooler.
>>5731491
Giga power are def my fave of the g1 style dinobots
My fave overall are the planet x but im biased toward classics sized figures and the foc style
>>5731753
I like them, but reasons I can guess why others might not is:
-If you aren't familiar with the characters, you haven idea who these guys are
-They transform into cybertronian vehicles, and their robot modes don't give away what they turn to.
>>5731795
I don't see why not, they've released a bunch of multipacks so far. Only their bigger figures (Magnus, Overlord, Scop, Optimus) are single packed. These guys will probably be a 2 pack for $50-60 and maybe come with some of their weapon assortments I figure.
>>5731795
I would absolutly count on it based on how theyve done other releases. Theyll probably be around $55-60 for the pair.
>>5731814
Yep. I doubt they're gonna be upsized Legends, they'll probably be normal Legends sized, so will likely end up in a 2 pack like all of their regular guys.
Unless they pull a Miko, but meh, doubt they'll do that with these.
>>5730254
I personally find the guns/holes for them to be much scarier.
Literally had to widen the holes so they'd fit, and even then i'm worried about leaving them in.
Is there a KO of Quakeblast? He seems way too cheap on ebay?
>>5732026
That's how much he goes for.
>>5732034
Really? Is he just shit then?
>>5732044
Nope it's actually really good. I think the company might just be kind of shady. The transformation scheme is ripped straight from the Fanstoys one, and regular stores don't carry it, just eBay sellers. It's odd. But I can attest that it's actually that cheap and it's quite good.
>>5732044
How about you watch some reviews and see for yourself, Anon?
>>5732058
I only watched the Thew one but I don't trust him for a serious opinion, I don't think he could dislike anything.
>>5732067
Then go watch another one, dumb ass.
>>5732080
Just did, looks pretty good. I like that he has the seperate cap for his barrel you can use. Shame his trigger doesn't do anything though.
>>5732067
I mean I don't watch his reviews for the opinions either but Thew actually dislikes a lot of things, and he talks pretty frankly about the flaws in figures he likes. He's not like Peaugh or Benscollectables who are like never negative about anything and like really gloss over the problems. The thing is he just makes way less videos than most reviewers and like makes them mostly as entertainment, so a lot of the time he only makes videos about the figures he's liked lately and wants to gush about. (I'm not saying whether that was the case with Quakeblast cause I haven't even watched the video but that's just why his reviews might seem like they're all positive)
>>5732521
Is this from a magazine?
>>5732521
I'm more interested in that Springer.
>>5732521
What's so funny?
no scorponok this month? where are the colored pics?
>>5733489
Which scorponok?
>>5733500 iron factory
>>5732521
>jazz is called blues
Fucking lol
Also, why are they calling that g1 op Orion, I can't even search for it because all I get is the shit IDW version that they made.
>>5733628
Yeah dude, not for a long time. They just showed the prototype.
>>5732521
I actually quite like that optimus.
lol these guys keep trying
Apparently TFC are using new connectors for their limbs with Poseidon. The arm ratchets/ab crunch are dead fucking solid and can lift other figures.
pic related
Also Fansproject's latest Headmaster is releasing. It finally has all the articulation all the other guys should have had with wrist swivels, ankle tilts, and range on the legs and shoulders but with Hasbro having something comparable it might be too little too late.
Also the headmaster doesn't fit on the previous headmaster bodies for some reason. Not that it does anything since they didn't bother to paint the headmaster's little face.
>>5733945
>Also the headmaster doesn't fit on the previous headmaster bodies for some reason
Now that is weird.
I feel bad for Function X. If they had just got their stuff out faster, people would have bought them all and been very happy with them. By dragging it out so long, a bunch of people have lost the hype and many are going to skip them for TR. I had the Decepticon trio and enjoyed them, but the TR ones are just fine and a third of the price. It's also a shame because they have a lot of cool stuff in the pipeline like Minerva and Horrorcons and I worry some of that might not come out.
>>5733969
Yeah I was just thinking the same thing, they had their chance with the market totally cornered but dragged about to long
Sure their highbrow is cool, but is it cooler ENOUGH to beat a 15$ toy of perfectly good quality. I know personally i prefer the hasbro highbrow for its scale an price
My MMC Grandus Hexatron arrived already and I have to say... Wow. This was my first 3P product and I was expecting it to be shit because of what I'd heard on forums and because I kinda wanted it to be shit so I wouldn't have even more robots to look at buying but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan this thing is awesome, I love how hefty he is and the badassitude he has. It looks great with my other stuff as he doesn't look too off. So now I wanna know, what are some other good 3P figures? (accessories/gimmicks are a thing that I like)
>>5734074
If you want loads of accessories, Maketoys Battle Tanker has loads of weapons and customizable parts. However, he isn't as solid and intuitive as Hexatron.
If you want something similar to Hexatron, I'd say waiting on MMC's Overlord might be smart. He'll be similar in a lot of ways.
>>5734082
Ah awesome. He looks pretty cool yeah. I like the look of MMC's Nova Prime too!
>>5733628
I don't think Scorponok is particularly near the front of the line as far as IF releases. What we know for certain is that first they're going to release the Dynobots, then Black Shadow. Those are both coming out like any day now. They already sent the Dynobots to some photographers and reviewers. Then I would guess that Optimus/Ginrai is also before Scorponok since we saw a colored test shot of that first.
![DSCN0048[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fJd92kZ.jpg "DSCN0048[1].jpg")
>>5734074
Hexatron really is a great figure. I haven't gotten Grandus yet (waiting on a good deal for him) but I really want the Shadow Maru repaint they've teased since forever.
Any of MMC's Reformatted line is good stuff to pick up, with Sparta or the evil black retool Commodus being real good picks.
I also like FansProject's headmaster stuff- Smart Robin, their version of Brainstorm, has a REALLY neat transformation, but he's kind of tiny (a little bigger than a deluxe) for the price. I also really like their version of Mindwipe, Sigma L. And their version of Quickswitch, MADLAW, while nowhere near as good as Hexatron, is pretty good for getting another sixchanger. I picked up the SixKnight repaint version and he's pretty fun.
>>5733938
I'm so happy to see TFC doing what looks to be some really cool stuff. It's great when companies improve.
>>5734146
Grandus is great, but I do like the Japanese TFs so I might be biased. Kinda hope someone does a better 3P Star Saber.
I'm holding off on the FP headmasters until I'm done with Titans Return honestly.
(Also a shadow maru Hexatron would be fucking amazing)
>>5734153
Remember when MMC was known for making a fragile train Optimus?
>>5734162
>a better 3P Star Saber.
What would you need improved on the MP? I'd want a Victory Leo much more than a do-over on Star Saber.
>>5734162
MMC had plans on releasing Greatshot and Shadow Maru retools of Hexatron before the first Hex came out.
I gotta agree with >>5734171
MP Star Saber is pretty cool, and fits the size of Hex and Overlord.
>>5734171
I'd like him to be bigger, less weirdly weak limbed and for the saber and brain figures to be better. Also a sword that fits Star Saber's hand better? Also maybe a more show accurate sword?
>>5734184
Fair enough. I'd like him to be a bit generically "better" too. But in terms of priorities, I think MP is fine and resources are better used on characters with no representation.
So my Unique Toys Provider came in the mail today. Is it just me or does he have some really really goofy tight clearances? I mean I love the character and all, but with how tight his joints are, and how close some of those clearances are I'm a bit terrified to really fiddle with him much because I don't want to snap anything. That guy is a nutty fuckin' puzzle of a toy at times.
Meanwhile I also got my MMC R16 Anarchus today and have zero complaints other than the obvious what is the point of hip joints that can be used.
>>5734226
>hip joints that can be used
I don't have mine handy, but I don't remember them being limited
>>5732521
>>5734249
well, they can be used, they just rub A LOT when you bend them out, and then due to the angle they sort of jerk out from straight down to a tad more than 45 degrees.
