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Old: >>5635678
>What's coming next in the Hi-Metal line!?
Nothing
Can't afford it any more
For something this high price, the 2 figure I got are like brick compare to the old revol VF-1.
But Seriously, how come no one is making some kind cheap HGUC like model (part-forming) for Macross stuff?
Managed to sneak a pre-order of the hi metal vf-1A, and got me a cheap second hand vf-1j from mandarake, its the damn roy focker vf-1s I crave, I wanted arcadias but I don't have the room.
>>5673101
>But Seriously, how come no one is making some kind cheap HGUC like model (part-forming) for Macross stuff?
We have bandai's 1/72 kits, they look the part if you throw the water slides/stickers (you get options for both) and do some panel line work.
They're essentially what you're asking for since they're from the same makers of gundam models ie hguc (btw hguc is a subline of the hg models, high grade universal century, uc era stuff).
4 problems lie with the vf-1 models from bandai, the battroids are kinda flimsy and may need modifications, they are fully transformable (no parts forming), and they have screws whcih can put people off, oh and they're models but you knew that.
Otherwise the gimmix line from tomytech, they're 1/144 (same as hg models), they require glue BUT they're fully painted with markings pre-applied, the battroid doesn't look dynamic with only a few posing options and once built its stuck in its assigned mode (you can buy it in battroid, Valkyrie or the 2 mode set which lets you mix the 2 sets of parts together to make the guardian at the cost of it being 2 models).
Pic related, I built a few regular fighters from the same line, VERY nice
>>5673101
If there's one thing everyone hates it's partsformer macross models. Seriously fuck those things.
>>5673075
>What's coming next in the Hi-Metal line!?
I dunno. But if it ain't a Destroid or a Queadluun Rau, then I probably ain't interested.
>>5673467
I hope Bandai makes a DX version of the VF-31A.
>>5673467
We have an actual looking sci-fi fighter plane. Not colourful trash.
Even the brown VF-1A and VF-25 weren't too austeric.
>>5674756
It's not very sci-fi at all. Have you seen the T-50?
>>5674756
>i got kicked off /k/ for being so autistic and now i complain about anime toys not being realistic
nice life mate
>>5674778
yeah it looks like shit
>>5673111
the 1/72 from Bandai is know to be extremely fragile.
And the past experience I got with Tomytech, they really not worth the money and effort. The prepainted gimmick bleed the second you started to apply glue and ended up a mess on the paintjob you can't fix.
You would think a franchise with that many number of mech can be sold. They would come up with a line that is cheap enough to people to do massive custom job.
Macross is for puss!
>>5677415
Huh.
How are the Revoltechs in general? I've had my eye on the YF-21 for a while (it being my favorite VF model overall), but I always see debate on whether it or the GN-U Dou is better in terms of generally inexpensive Battroid mode figures.
>>5678460
I've had both. I found the details on the Revoltech to look rather gummy. The GNU has much better sculpt and details. It just lacks articulation.
>>5673467
sexy
>>5678460
The GN-U is bigger, has a more accurate sculpt but has next to no accessories. The Revoltech comes with a stand and some pinpoint barrier effect parts.
>>5679041
The Revoltech also comes with the FAST pack parts and the GN-U has them sold separately.
>>5678460
The GN-U is a better display piece. The Revoltech is a better toy.
Also worth noting is that the GN-U doesn't come with Fast Pack parts. That's sold separately in an "upgrade kit" that also has parts that fix the out-of-box figure's shortcomings like its limited torso.
>>5678460
GNU are superior. I have a Vf-1A myself, great toy. Watch out for floppy waist joints. For some reason, Arcadia NEVER figured out how to fix their floppy ball jointed waists in ANY figure they released. Use some Pledge floor polish and you'll be good to go.
New ones are shit long live the YF-19, the rest are for fags
>>5681393
Keep your Excalibur. As much as I hate its fighter, all I want is a VF-171 in Diamond Force Colors.
So i guess Hi-Metal is on a break.
>>5681409
Bout time we see Mirage's.
>>5681393
Why all the hostility? All valkyries are love. You don't need to hate on the others.
>>5681419
Someone painted a VF-171 in Diamond Force colors. Maybe if they make a transformable kit of it you could do the same.
>>5683766
This looks really good, I don't even mind the colors being different
>>5683766
White goggles is new, white missile pods was shown on one of the old model boxarts.
>>5685644
that is from long long ago
>>5681619
>Someone saved my photo
neat-o
>>5685644
What a cruel tease this is. Doesn't help that the Hi-Metal line is extremely lacking the VF department as of now...
>>5691245
I'm very interested in seeing how the VF-31E's radome folds out.
When is the Hi-Metal R Gluag due out?
>>5683766
>>5691244
Man, the white supers look so odd to me.
>>5691245
Can't wait for these, I like how the arm of the stand is clear now! With Bandai making Figuarts Zeros from Delta, I hope they do a good Mirage, it'd be awesome to display with her 31.
>>5692573
May 27th!
![Super Dimension Fortress Macross - 01 (BD 720p) (Bunny Hat) (NakamaSub).mkv_snapshot_13.01_[2016.05.25_13.12.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kAbl6R8.jpg "Super Dimension Fortress Macross - 01 (BD 720p) (Bunny Hat) (NakamaSub).mkv_snapshot_13.01_[2016.05.25_13.12.13].jpg")
>>5692642
Do the main guns not deploy correctly on this toy or did you not get it right?
>Man, the white supers look so odd to me.
They've added white bands on the leg super packs too I think.
>>5692704
Nah, they have a full range of motion from horizontal on the shoulders to vertical on the back. I just like how it looks with the cannon at an angle.
>>5692903
The tips of the macross cannon are 90 degrees out in your pic. Don't they have a swivel?
Are you getting a 1/48 roy?
>>5692918
Oh! Yea yea, the cannon tips can swivel into the proper position, I just forgot to after transforming from cruiser mode.
>Are you getting a 1/48 roy?
I actually had one! I wasn't the biggest fan of it, though. The lack of tampos on the nose and the seam down the middle of the battroid head sculpt were my main gripes. Sold it off and had more than enough to pick up the beautiful 1/48 Low-Vis instead.
>>5673285
Well we are getting this, so I'm not sure what else you're looking for.
I feel like I'd be okay with a Destroid statue, though. Destroids never seem to move much anyway even if they're not getting blown up
>>5692642
Isn't this thing a partsformer?
>>5693255
I want a Macross show with a destroid pilot as a main character.
Too bad they'd die 30 seconds into the first episode.
>>5692704
>They've added white bands on the leg super packs too I think.
Isn't that also the DYRL version of the arm armor?
>>5693255
>Well we are getting this, so I'm not sure what else you're looking for.
The other Destroids, obviously. We've known the Monster was coming for a while now. I'm more interested in the Spartan, Phalanx, etc.
>>5673075
>Delta a Shit edition
Thank god somebody understands this.
I can't comprehend why /m/ likes it.
>>5694029
Because it's good?
>>5694059
>Stating Delta is good while posting a smug anime face from 7.
No. It's not. The original SDF had Idols being used as a touchstone representing the importance of culture and art in a society. Now Macross uses them as a cashgrab fetishization of japans most cancerous industry.
>>5691244
Huh. Does anyone have a screengrab of those two seconds in a later episode where you see both Max and Millia flying in fighter mode with super packs on? I can't even figure out what episode it was in.
>>5694075
>I know nothing about macross or how it's evolved over the years and am pathologically attached to the first series and my wrong image of it.
Music and culture in macross are one and the same and macross has always had idols and delta is about the rightful heirs to protocuture and a conflict between species and government it's not just about aidoru music. Maybe you should watch it instead of judging. /toy/ seems to be the only board who hates delta. I wonder why?
Not sure how many eps you watched but it does "get good " from the subbing . And there are memorable scenes left and right , from the woow wow wow singing with fingers pointing , to Stationary jumping , to getting smack in the face by a cat along with all the mechs action .
At least they only use 5 idols instead of macross akb48 ske, nmb, etc.
It's every enjoyable , especially if you check out the boards after the eps ends .
>>5694371
Maybe the portion of /m/ that's still watching it.
Before it aired, there were all kinds of threads bashing it, and I doubt any of those folks actually went on to watch it.
If you only look at a general, of course you're going to think the whole board likes it.
>>5694489
And that's fine if they don't like it they don't have to watch it. I do find that a telltale sign is there ain't a lot of overt trolling in those threads on /m/ and /a/ which is a good sign.
>>5693564
Aye, it is, but it's a fairly simple transformation and results in both modes being very solid! Everything holds together nice and tight.
It's a very well done Macross, and I really hope they do a DYRL version next.
>>5694171
Too bad it doesn't actually focus on that conflict and is too busy focusing on the idols and their amazing magical skills. Episode 8 had so many examples of this with all the hand to hand fighting between our main trio and the Ariel Knights literately taking place off screen. Damn show is more interested in telling and not showing.
>>5694641
Are you trolling or are you actually stupid? The Aerial Knights were on screen for most of this episode.
>>5673467
I would murder you all for a DX Chogokin version of this.
>>5694869
Pretty much the latter for all of them. Don't even try to convince them they hate anything that's not farmiliar or exactly the same as a 30 year old show. It doesn't matter how much delta is influenced or how much it has its roots firmly planted in classic lore or style or storytelling. It's got AIDORUS so it must be a dumb cash in attempt and is ruining macross with otaku bait magical girl shit. Don't bother even engaging with them
>>5694628
how tall is that god damn sexy AF regult?
>>5695343
In normal posture about 7 inches.
Hi Metal R Glaug Payment requests incoming. Get your wallets ready.
>>5695322
>ignore reality
>>5695670
I had a Glaug on pre-order for the longest time. Cause, you know, big accurate Glaug toy, must be awesome. But really, I just don't need a Glaug. Don't like it that much.
Not like the Regult. Man that thing has occupied a special place in my imagination since I first saw it. Regult for the motherfucking win. So happy with mine.
>>5673111
>they require glue BUT they're fully painted
Painted? Do you just mean the plastic is colored like gunpla and unlike a typical grey airplane model? Id like to see photos of the gimix kits out of the box, can only find painted ones.
>>5696210
That's literally how they come, its not pre-colored plastic they actually painted over the top of the plastic
Here, this is the 1/144 gimmix f-15 active, yes they have bad nub marks but the build actually hides them apart from missiles, just trim those down well, all you need for 90% of it is glue hobby knife (not sand paper you'll fuck it up) and sprue cutters.
...I will warn you though, shit like additional missile pods may require a pin vice or something, pretty much when you get to the external weapons and there is no hole in place for a peg which the external weapon SHOULD have then it may require said tools, also be careful of any pegs on the parts, I cut a few of those off and ended up gluing down wing flaps (which don't need glue as they're meant to be poseable, the manual will state which steps don't need glue).
One final tip, not all of the parts need glue, I'd recommend gluing down the top half and bottom half of the plane modes to remove the giant ass seem, but otherwise just snap it together until a part is too loose
>>5694869
No, you're just a mouth breathing cunt. Any time the Ariel Knight beat Hayate and Mirage it was done off screen. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
>>5695322
As he says about me, the guy who has the issue that there's not enough action even though I've got seven fucking PreCure Figurarts, cause fuck magical girls suck amirite?
My problem is there's not enough action, and not enough character development. By this point in Frontier we had that awesome space battle trying to save the Macross Galaxy fleet during Sheryl's concert. It was exciting and emotional and was great. Delta has yet to give us anything like that.
>>5696252
Oh, thanks! That is really weird. Are the kits worth it? Most of the photos I'm seeing look just a bit on the sloppy side, but the hi-metal stuff is too pricey for me. I'm considering both the pics I posted
>>5696270
Only once. Watch it again you retard.
>>5696284
>not enough action
i can see this a little the infinity battle was pretty cool but so far we have had some kickass dogfights which is what this series seems to be focusing on.
>Not enough character development
aaaand you lost me. This show has had more character development than the first 3/4 of 7 and a good chunk of frontier. Freyja is getting stronger as a character and is finding her convictions and committing to singing to bring peace and Hayate is gettining over his pacifist nature. Mirage is showing a lot of weakness and is going to have to overcome that. The walkure girls haven't gotten much but they are established like Sheryl was and we got a little backstory last episode. everyone has a goal and a reason for doing what they are doing. even if the motivations of some are still murky.
>>5696270
how about the time that bogue punched hayate in the face but i forgot you will find any excuse to hate this series. just don't watch it you whiny fuck
>>5696300
Or that time Bogue kicked Hayate in the face.
>>5681393
> not getting the superior DX vf-19
At a local con today, I saw an old Mattel Valk and the Matchbox SDF-1. It was pretty damn cool to see in person.
>>5696295
>pricey
You picked the wrong fandom to buy merch for...
>>5696736
Is the mattel valk the gi-joe sized one? Even as a 5-6 year old I thought that was strange since it had transformation joints molded into it but they didn't work.
>>5696736
Robotech sucks for sure but those old toys are pretty nostalgic. The "veritech" is super delicate though. The old Matchbox SDF is actually a great toy though they run quite expensively. Still we all know the best robotech toys were these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqfdpIkXKA
>>5696731
Aesthetically, yes.
From what I know about Arcadia, the YF-19 probably has better handfeel. It might just be the sunk cost fallacy making my Arcadia toys feel better though
>>5697284
And to think, it took Kawamori 20+ years to notice that girls are into Macross too. No wonder the guy's still single.
>>5696295
>are they worth it
For a static model I suppose, the battleroid models only get as good as the one you posted and while the jet modes have landing gear its not interchangeable, if you want the guardian get the "2 mode sets" which are about 6000+ye, you can build the guardian or as I'm planning building battroid and jet modes separately.
They're small, don't quite line up to gunpla (an rg core fighter is dwarfed by these jets) but they're a decent representation without paint required.
>>5698864
That's Robotech, not Macross.
Still waiting for Messer's DX VF to get a release date.
>>5699977
Same difference.
Any reviews of this thing yet?
>>5700016
>>5698864
Yeah now I see why /toy/ doesn't like delta.
>>5700020
http://blog.livedoor.jp/hacchaka/archives/51980105.html
http://nov.2chan.net/y/res/3528825.htm
>>5700039
Thanks!
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>>5696300
>Mirage is showing a lot of weakness and is going to have to overcome that.
Yeah but I also really get the feeling that soon as she get's over her personal shit she's going to be quite the force to be reckoned with. Messer said it pretty clear, she's too by the book and that really seems to be coming more from her trying to live up to her family name.
http://tamashii.jp/item/11427/
>>5703161
I am conflicted, as much as I enjoy the new hi metals, the fact they are all GREY means that this one is going to look strange
>>5703161
This is an exclusive, isn't it.
>>5703168
the Light Grey is the new white.
>>5703592
i wish it was light grey
>>5703161
its basically the vf-1j without the armor isn't it?
Not even a fast pack
>>5703161
I'd love them to do the VF-1D some day.
>>5703791
Well, the VF-1J with the armor wasn't specifically Hikaru's. It was the generic mook who gets shot to shit in the opening scene of DYRL.
Is there a general starting point to get into Macross?
Also is there a line of Valkyries that is all around well liked here?
>>5703957
You can more or less start with any given series and while there are call backs to other series it's nothing that really requires homework.
Like for example in Delta airing right now Mirage is the granddaughter of characters from SDF/7 but aside from her feeling pressured by their legacy there's nothing that requires you watch SDF/7 because Delta makes it obvious that her grandparents are hot shit
>>5703791
It never uses the Fast Packs
>>5703586
No you dumbass. Can you read? can you SEE?
>>5703997
that you are sweet?
wait wrong robot franchise
>>5703799
Me too. And Max's Vf-1A from the TV series. Both seem to be left out too often.
Course, what I'd really like to see is both of those as reissues/remolds of the old 1/55 Takatoku mold.
>>5703799
Bandai did display a VE-1 2-seater hi-metal a while back so a VF-1d might happen. It would require its own unique mold though so bandai may skip it.
>>5703882
Would there be any physical differences between the 2?
They look the same unless the shade of white differs slightly.
>>5703994
...it'd still be able to theoretically use them in design right, in toy and mecha design?
Basic point is it feels like a majorly downgraded release, KINDA wish I knew about this earlier however, ended up buying a second hand one that cost a tad more because missed-preorder tax
>>5704359
Would it be that hard to just retool the head and jet canopy and use the rest of the parts?
>>5704381
>Would it be that hard to just retool the head and jet canopy and use the rest of the parts?
It's not just the canopy. most of the fuselage, or chest and back of the battroid is different between the regular vf-1, the vf-1d and the VT/VE which also folds the tail differently.
>>5704397
>>5704398
The canopy is much more bulbous on the VE/VT giving the chest a large lump in battroid.
>>5704404
The most notable difference besides the head is the 2-seaters don't have the cut-out in the chest plate, the top edge is just a straight line.
>>5704411
Here you can see how much further the chest bulges out on the VT/VE versus the 1d.
>>5704415
And a regular vf-1, the head is recessed into the chest.
I think you might be able to fit a M.A.S.K. driver in the Glaug.
sold out already.
>sold out on amiami the second the button flashed for preorder
What the fuck.
>>5706428
On the other hand... there seem to be plenty of Glaugs to go around....
>>5706216
>>5706414
>>5706428
As expected, I'm still debating my need since its basically the armored Valkyrie without the armor.
I'm just gonna do what I did with the vf-1a though and wait, I prefer hlj and had that thing booked marked and one day it light back up.
The hard part for me is do I want this?
>>5706454
ha I cancelled mine, makes me wonder if the demand is lower or did bandai wisen up and produce more?
I've seen the reviews, what are people's thoughts (only seen the pictorials)
>>5706469
>ha I cancelled mine, makes me wonder if the demand is lower or did bandai wisen up and produce more?
Both, I'm betting. Bandai probably heard demand was high for Regults and, not accounting for army building, thought, "Gee, if they want that many Regults, we should make even more Glaugs!" Boneheads.
>I've seen the reviews, what are people's thoughts (only seen the pictorials)
I'm curious about this as well.
>>5706469
Of all the enemy mecha they could have done, the glaug is the most uninspired and least interesting. It's basically a ship from a 2d side scrolling shooter with arms and legs slapped on it. The quaedlun(?) power armor in tv colors, the power armor from dyrl or even a zentradi soldier would have been nice.
Seriously was a glaug on anybodies wish list?
>>5706484
In the universe (I'm a robotech fag so what I know may differ) what was the ratio of glaugs to regults, one to 6, 12?
I only know they're a commander type unit so I would imagine you wouldn't need more than one or 2 in most cases
>>5706497
Probably 1 to 100 or more. There were one or two Glaugs in the attack in the first two episodes, and after that I think you only see it piloted by that one crazy Zentran dude.
>>5706505
Well sounds like bandai got a bit retarded, I'm honestly gonna wait until it goes on sale or something since I can get bigger things than that for the same price.
I wonder how the monster will go, that thing's price and size is a turn off, would bandai go all out or play him safe like the valks?
>>5706495
That's about right. I decided to get one, but mostly cause I built a Nichimo kit of the thing when I was a wee lad, and thus nostalgia.
Nowhere near as awesome or iconic as the Regult.
>>5706469
It's got gap fillers for the top of the torso.
>>5706569
Hardly anything to rush out for, but are they intergrated or parts forming?
On that note why didn't we get them the first 3 times, roy fockers would of benefited more
Are the HMR toys officially 1/100 scale or just a rough estimate?
They seem to size up well with robot damashii's and their scales are all over the place
>>5706414
anime exports!
you can still pre order!
>>5706642
The seem to be 1/100th or at least really close to it. The VF-1 should be quite a bit smaller than the Gundam. And recent gundam RDs, especially the Anime stuff, has been right on 1/144 scale, though the Side MS subline started out a bit smaller than that. Dunbine mechs are even smaller, and the Aura Battler RDs are about 1/72 scale.
>>5706495
Glaug is my favorite zentradi mecha. Fight me.
>>5706495
Millia's Queadluun Rau from the original series would be amazing in this line. I hope they announce it before the year's out.
>>5707206
Don't want to . Too cute.
>>5706495
>Seriously was a glaug on anybodies wish list?
It was definitely on mine.
>a single person not liking the Marauder
what a fag
The officer's pod is one of the best designs from robotech.
>>5707773
I know, right? With enough heat sinks and gauss cannons, you can kill like infinite Invids even without using protoculture in your Shiva Furnace.
>>5706587
Parts form. Called chest detail parts. It seems to be the trend following the short wings.
>>5707896
>Shiva Furnace
Not sure if star control reference
>>5707773
Thats a pretty great redesign. Man why did MWO have to be such garbage. it had so much potential
>TFW gold founder
>>5708273
I'm so glad I refunded my Gold Founder status at the last minute.
>>5708268
>Totally a Star Control reference
>wanted to see if anyone would notice
Star Control rocks.
I love the designs in Delta. But man I just cannot enjoy the show. Idol culture holds no fucking appeal to me. Any announcements yet on generic mook releases?
>>5708798
You mean you don't enjoy the current flavor of the month themed animes!?
Go back to Robotech!
Macross has always been about idols!
It's always been Love Live! with mechs!
>>5706484
>Boneheads
I always find it funny when people who don't have an ounce of business education criticize people who have years of education and experience and are working their asses off to make products you cunts will like
>>5709224
Having access to information (through education, etc.) is worthless if you do not know how to use it properly. Just because they took courses, does not mean that they are competent when it comes to real world applications.
>>5709288
suck my dick
>>5708798
What idol culture? They aren't even actual idols. Most of them have military backgrounds.
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>>5709167
>Go back to Robotech!
>Macross has always been about idols!
>It's always been Love Live! with mechs!
>Zero and Plus don't exist
how's about instead of throwing tantrums over 30 year old adaptations you probably are too young to have watched you take two seconds to realize that maybe people watch shows for different reasons. Even SDF proper was really just using an Idol as a plot device and was part of larger space opera
>>5709224
Having business sense and understanding the fanbase are two different skills which do not always perfectly overlap. Much like marketing and design. Merely pointing that out is not heresy.
If you are so disturbed by exposure to basic information, I suggest you cloister yourself immediately, lest you be exposed to other things, as often happens on the internet.
>>5709576
Perhaps your sarcasm detector needs to be refurbished.
>>5709576
He was being sarcastic. In truth Macross has always had singing in some shape or form. Delta just takes it in a direction some people don't like. Which is a shame because it's an enjoyable show and some people can't see that because "ew there's multiple girls singing."
>Mfw my glaug is still in customs.
Cmon guys Memorial Day was like 3 days ago
>>5709599
>ew it's trying to ride the Love Live! train
ftfy
>>5709642
It's nothing like Love Live.
>>5709599
I've never liked that about Macross, I think in the entire franchise theres been one song I've liked, and I can't even remember it to be honest. It just feels harder to ignore this time round. To be honest I'm not much of a fan of modern anime, many of the trends and tropes mesh with me. I just force myself to watch Delta, cause Macross.
>>5710727
After Plus, there's nothing worth watching. It's scary how quickly standards dropped for the series.
>>5710811
Eh. Zero is better than plus.
And the original, for that matter, didn't have much in the way of standards. If not for story elements and ideas borrowed from Battlestar Galactica and Ideon, and genuinely excellent mech design and toys, it wouldn't have had much impact. Twas a perfect storm that lifted Macross, and it's largely been coasting downhill since.
>>5711090
You're underestimating its quality for the time it was made and its impact on anime due to said quality
>>5711122
Possibly. But if you mean high quality animation, there's only about 6 good episodes worth spread throughout the entire series. Maybe less. What's good is often very good, but what's bad is very bad, and plentiful.
Overall, I'd not rate it any better than the animation in MSG or Ideon. Though, because of the the attention to mechanical detail, the good parts really do stand out.
>>5710811
If you think Plus is the last good Macross then your standards are incredibly low and shallow.
>>5711805
No bud YOURS are. Thanks for admitting you like shit.
>>5711919
"I judge shows based on how nice the animation is and how good the music is!"
That's Plus fags in a nutshell. No one ever talks about Plus' characters or story because it's shallow trash. Despite your hate for Delta having gross idols and CGI it at least has an actual fucking story and character development. Delta is contributing more to the Macross mythos and lore more than Plus ever did.
>>5711939
>mythos building is what makes a story good
oh ho ho ho
I didn't know a weeaboo could be a Tolkienfag.
Macross Plus' story might not be toodeepforyou, but it's still good and having top-tier animation makes it stand out as being a watchable anime. These qualities puts it as one of the best Macross cartoons.
As a bonus, the music is great.
I set my old 6500 Mac Performa to play this as it started up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smxf_53jEI8
>>5711939
The story was great, it was a realistic depiction of the effects of PTSD and unresolved childhood resentment. It also delved into the whole human/cyborg/machine ai issue of how far is too far.
>>5711971
I like Plus too but I'm willing to admit it doesn't have much going for it beyond the visuals and music.
>>5712013
nice narrative that you keep trying to push
>>5711939
>Delta is contributing more to the Macross mythos and lore more than Plus ever did.
Worst macross post I've ever read. Delta is forgettable trash that nobody will care about in a few years. Plus is a timeless classic.
>>5712140
Plus isn't even that well known in the japanese fanbase. Your delusion is off the charts.
>>5712181
Yes it's so unknown that isamu cameod in the last frontier movie for no reason at all and two different companies put out expensive, top-tier YF-19 toys last year.
How do you even tie your laces you fucking idiot?
>>5712188
Having a five second cameo in a movie does not mean it's a timless classic or super popular. And toys don't mean shit. Everything gets toys these days. The fact is Plus is the 2nd lowest selling Macross next to Zero. It has nice animation and music but that's all it has going for it. I bet you think the Bay Transformers films are amazing films too because the action scenes make you wet your pants.
>>5712196
>The fact is Plus is the 2nd lowest selling Macross next to Zero
>Japanese macross fans don't even know about plus!
Things you pull out of your ass aren't facts retard. If you're this far removed from reality I guess we're done here.
>>5712196
>The fact is Plus is the 2nd lowest selling Macross next to Zero.
Do sales numbers only count if it's Japanese?
It's one of the few Macrosseses that were released in the US and it's still being produced.
>>5712447
Kind of pointless to factor western sales when we've only gotten SDF, 2, and Plus.
>>5712537
so basically, only sales and views by the japanese counts
>>5712548
They're the primary market and have access to all of the shows and merchandise. It's a lot easier to dig up sales numbers for them.
>>5709398
People still think this is an appropriate response to reasonable arguments?
>>5712598
>still
Do you think you're a mature individual just because you just graduated from middle school?
It hasn't been a proper response to any argument since at least 1985 when i graduated from middle school and thought i was suddenly an enlightened mature human being.
>>5712629
>It hasn't been a proper response to any argument since at least 1985 when i graduated from middle school and thought i was suddenly an enlightened mature human being.
What kinda fucking drugs you on nigga?
I might need them to understand this shit
Maybe /toy/ needs shitposting general where people can argue the finer points of shitposting or claim the japs don't know about macross plus or whatever.
>>5712641
Won't work, always someone trying to rile up someone else, this is the blessings of freedom of speech.
Just ignore and move on
Hey guys, I loved Robotech back in the day, and played the hell out of the the PS2 game. I know a lot of the Valkyries can be pretty pricey..
What's a decent transforming one?
I've thought about picking up one of the revoltech figures, but they seem too flimsy..
Any suggestions?
>>5712649
The hi metal R line is pretty neat but the pre-order window is tight, I have to bookmark their pre-order pages so I can wait for cancellations, just a warning though they don't have that much metal, its basically like a robot damashii with a few metal bits to hold it together
The 1/60 arcadia ones are pretty good too, massive but costly (but compared to a second hand hi metal r its another story) but I lack one to give any real information.
The revoltechs, well from what I know you got the non-transforming battroids and then there are the transforming ones, far cheaper than the above options provided you can find them being so old.
Avoid toynami's ones, seriously, bought one years ago and it fell to bits, the "white" was more creme colored and felt cheap, the hi metal r's while the "white" is more grey its a better approximation, crisper details and the diecast on some hinges holds it together better.
Anything you find in a store now a days that says robotech is shit sadly apart from the robotech series which requires nostalgia glasses
>>5712649
Transforming revoltechs are shit. When you balance quality against price the best available vf-1 is the bandai hi-metal R. You could save your shekels for a yamato 1/60 v2 or arcadia.
1/48 yamatos are an option if you only want vf-1s
>>5712181
I dunno man, every Japanese that I've met and talked to in Japan about anime liked and remembered Plus. They also had a habit of giving me major props for having the original series as my favorite.
Have you even talked to actual Japanese about Macross?
>>5712649
Arcadia makes a great VF-1S so that would be the best place to start
>>5712871
I haven't and neither have you.
Hi-Metal Glaug is so dang nice! This and the Regult have been the best things outta the line so far. Has me even more excited for the Monster. I hope we get more enemy units and more destroids as well.
>>5713591
Glad to hear good things about the Glaug. (And that pic of your is one of the best pics I've seen of the thing yet!)
Personally, I'm hoping we get a Destroid Spartan or Millia's Queadluun Rau announced soon. Not much else that I'd definitely be interested in.
>>5713589
Yes I have, I go to Tokyo on holiday at least once every year.
>>5713591
Kinda surprised the didn't print the red arrow marking on below the back of the cockpit. It's like the one marking they almost always animated on the Glaug.
Cool that they articulated the little grey toe claws though. I wouldn't have even remembered that.
>>5707206
>Reminder that the Glaug is the most cowardly of all Zentran mechs.
>>5713591
I noticed it comes with a stand to support its gun arms.
Are that heavy, is there something that prevents them from sagging down in a pose like that?
>>5713827
It's optional if you want to use the stand , but if you are going to display it for a long it's best to use the stand .
>>5713838
I don't get why they couldn't add ratchets, it may limited pose ability, but longevity would of helped saved them on cost from the stand (maybe)
>>5713827
The joints for the arms seem incredibly stiff on mine so I'm not using the support arms with them so far. I am using the stand itself however just to be safe.
>>5713845
ratchets has it's faults too, when the gears break, you will not be able to fix it easily unlike normal joints.
>>5713961
When the gears break it just becomes a normal joint anyway
Still no date on this?
>>5713642
I didn't know it had the little claws in the feet. That's a cool feature.
>>5713975
If you're putting them to use, then yes, they will wear out over time.
NEXT
>>5713647
LOL. someone should do that pose with the Hi-metal.
>>5717031
Looking at the pose and looking at my Glaug you'd be able to do that just fine so long as you used the stand to help support it.
>>5717031
What exactly was the context of that scene?
>>5717031
Looks like they elongated the arms for that scene.
>>5718871
Feel free to turn this into a gif.
>>5717031
>>5718871
>>5718872
>making fun of SDF
fuck off
>>5719061
>Delta shitter trying to make SDF fans look stupid so they can feel good about themselves
>>5719087
no just you
Gotta buy all 9 Blurays.
>>5719269
It really is a nice, solid release. They actually articulated all four foot pads and the goofy 'toe claw' thing at the base of the shin/ankle. The arm joints are nice and incredibly tight, the legs are tight enough to support the weight in a fair number of poses but the stand is probably safer in general.
>>5719362
I'm wondering how much of those markings are actually molded plastic and not stickers/decals. There still hasn't been any pictures of the sprues yet.
>>5720452
Hint for ya, look at the white on the wings.
Good chance that's a sticker/water slide, looks like only solid plastic are the black bits for the feet.
>>5721602
Guess I'll save my money for the DX figure. Or get the Tomytec model instead.
>>5722409
Um, okay? I don't fucking care
Anyone got a shot of what parts the Megahouse SDF-1 swaps?
Also a shot next to a Hi-Metal R valk would be nice, too.
>>5723040
The only part that needs exchanging is the central block.
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-4094&page=top
Pre-order up for Arad's 1/144 VF-31 model.
So I pic related, fucking glorious despite being a repaint.
But I'm confused, I have the tamashii act 5 stage, was there another connector joint, I want my vf1s posed in this mode but all I can find are male adaptors, the stand for battroid mode is also male, pretty sure that doesn't work unless there is something I missed in the manual
>>5722409
I think the tomytec would work nicely since its pre-painted but it doesn't really move much, good for posing with gundams though sorta.
I don't have the space for the dx, or the arcadia of the vf1s hence my preference on the hmr second hand sadly
>>5722661
>waste of a comment
>responding unnecessarily
You could of just ignored him anon, but hay here's your (You)
>>5723761
Is this the Hi Metal R? I still have mine in the box, should free it soon. Need to toss out some figures, I'm just going to downsize my collection so it's just Macross
>>5723846
>I'm just going to downsize my collection so it's just Macross
And the centerpiece of that collection will be one or more of Bandai's 1/55 reissues, right?
Right?!
>>5723926
Right now it's my Yamato VF-1A CF since that's my favorite design. I don't really care for the chunky monkeys desu, had my fill of that mold as a child.
>>5723932
>I don't really care for the chunky monkeys desu,
You fuckin heretic.
>had my fill of that mold as a child.
Wait, seriously? Is that possible? Have you no soul?
>>5723846
Yep its the Hi metal R, about as big as a normal sized hg gundam model/robot damashii.
Its a tad expensive for what it is but its good as room conservation
>>5723926
These are still cool, but they'd be fucking amazing if the Yamato/Arcadia Vf-1's didn't exist.
>>5723984
Depends, I think, upon whether you hold eye-candy or hand-candy in higher regard.
>>5723971
It's cool but it's just the VF-1. There's no others VFs in that line. Your collection is neat and all but it's still just the same toy with a different head and paint scheme.
>>5724570
dude vf-1s are the only good valk designs
>>5724573
I strongly disagree but respect your opinion.
>>5723040
Hope this works for you, as >>5723067 said the only part that gets completely swapped out is the central block. BTW, in case anyone had their eye on this guy, he's on sale at HLJ for 4200JPY:
http://hlj.com/product/MEG82029
Preordered mine and I have no regrets! It's a great little SDF-1, and the sale just has me considering picking up a second so I can have both modes displayed, haha.
>>5713600
Thanks, man! And yeah I'd love a Q-Rau, but the destroid I want most is the Tomahawk!
>>5713642
Haha, I'd completely forgotten about the toe claws and was wondering when the heck they were ever used when I saw them in the instruction manual. Perfect screengrab to help jog the memory!
>>5713827
Just want to join the above anons in saying that the arm joints on my Glaug are super tight as well. The cannon on the end of the arms are quite light too, so there's really no need for stands at all.
>>5724570
>It's cool but it's just the VF-1. There's no others VFs in that line
What does that matter? Do you require all the toys in your collection to be the same scale and from the same line? That sounds boring as fuck.
>>5724826
>the destroid I want most is the Tomahawk!
I can't ever unsee the happy frog face with machinegun eyes when I look at the Tomahawk. :P
>>5724929
I don't have that much love for the VF-1. It's still a pretty good toy for the time. One of the best really.
>>5724573
>>5725027
Overdesigned trash. VF-1 is the only good design. Literally has no flaws.
![IMG_3797[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FzuFw0V.jpg "IMG_3797[1].jpg")
>>5725065
>Literally has no flaws.
>head and arms hanging out the bottom of fighter mode
>legs just dangle from the nose in battroid
>literally a partsformer
>wings in battroid hinder leg movement thanks to intakes
Cool bullshit kid. Now get some actual taste already. Also, stop using words you clearly don't know the meaning of. Smoothest goddamn fighter mode there is.
>>5725111
>actual taste
>image posted
top fucking kek m8
>>5725129
>actual taste
>image posted
Yup, that's correct. Glad you finally came to your senses anon. :)
>>5725182
um ok?
>>5725129
>>5725189
Shouldn't you be on the Robotech Facebook page right now, fag?
>>5725111
ug you're that asshole that calls everyone kid, also opinions
http://tamashii.jp/special/macross/
Hayate's voice actor attempting to transform the VF-31J Chogokin. Looks like it has a simple transformation compared to past VFs like the VF-22 and 19 series.
>>5725493
Wow nobody gives a shit
