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For those unfamiliar, "Plamo" is a shortened form of "plastic model." If it's made of plastic, someone can probably help you here.
>"If you're new, you're gonna fuck up. Don't worry! If you're experienced, don't make the new people worry!"
***READ THE GUIDE***
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The guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Tr8UyF2Xg5Ojqw0sxcO7oIG7IIsJPes3lMO5pHZKu5o
And a handy guide to other types of plamo:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa/Airfix%20Model%20World%20Specia%20(Scale%20Modelling%20Step-By-Step).pdf
http://www.scalemodelguide.com
Some lineart: http://seesaawiki.jp/nuriesozai/lite/d/MenuBar1
http://gundma.imgur.com/
Paint Matcher: http://scalemodeldb.com/paint
Old thread: >>5650350 (You) (Cross-thread)
Wrong 'Old thread'.
>>5664734
I answered his question. It was just a lineart. There was never any kit announcement for it.
>so many kit announcements
>nothing good
fedora's just a custom
Battle Droids soon
>>5664984
where can I see these announcements?
>>5665066
All the fuck over the last thread here and the threads on /m/
>>5665060
my dick just became very erect
anyone have one of koto's Phantasy star kits? i somehow lost ALL the left hands for mine and was wondering if anyone would be willing to send me a spare?
I never realized how flexible Gunpla was. Anyone know where I might be able to put streaks and oil stains on the Wehrmech? I'm thinking under the bullet holes, but I can't think of where else.
>>5665137
Put some staining around the joints, yo.
>>5665150
will do, i was thinking about using a cotton swab with some oil paint to just spread grime around, and that should be pretty easy to do with the joints, i'd just need to let it dry for a day or two
>>5665060
YES THANK YOU BANDAI
Took them long enough
>>5665137
>soon
Well, finally deciding to get around to at least plan the colors for CHROME MACHINE!!. I'm going to turn the green into chrome, and the dark gray into black chrome, but have no idea what to turn the light green into. I was also wanting to incorporate holomatic spectral chrome after seeing some images of it on kits, perhaps on the upper-body armor, shoulder discs, arm armor, and shin plates?
>>5665060
I'm consistently more and more tempted to pick up some kind of TIE kit. Maybe I should hold out for a Defender.
>>5665211
nice blogpost
>>5665211
Or fill in the colors and see what the fuck you want
>>5664984
>VF-31S
>not good
>>5665060
I wouldn't mind having a B2 battle droid.
>>5665238
it'll happen eventually if not this year, they can start releasing prequel shit every month from now on and I'll be happy enough
>>5665234
You mean this one?
Also happens to be a shipgril I like
Anyone have pics of the new HGBF accessory sets?
Also not!Guts looks hilarious, being forced to fit on that tiny base
>>5665265
He's trapped in those cartoon hole things
>>5665268
I hope they'll make char with his sunglasses so that I can have memes
This shit looks baller as fuck, I'm hype.
>>5665264
I hope this becomes a reality, but its probably gonna be pretty pricey.
Thank you Kotobukiya for showing the industry the way.
>>5665272
folding sword in shoulders?
also you got another pic? i'd like to know what the fuck is that thing on its left hip
>>5665275
It's Aoshima, my friend
It''ll be like 7k+ yen
>>5665277
That's what I thought too. Look in the last thread for the old pictures, its some gun attached to a hefty sword.
>>5665272
what gundam is this?
>>5665272
I can't quite articulate why, but this doesn't even look like a gundam series design. It looks like it belongs in an entirely different mecha franchise.
Anyone know what I mean?
>>5665283
It looks like an SRW design
>>5665283
Too much miniscule detail I guess?
It's by the same guy that did both kimaris, pepe gundam and all reco ms that's not g-self
>>5665287
That man has quite the great designs.
>>5665290
Gastima was sex.
Great kit too, I just wish Reco stuff had HGBF engineering and BF stuff weren't riddled with sticker hell like most Reco kits
>>5665294
my fucking negro, gastima is amazing.
Also found it, Jigen build knuckles(round), 540 Yen July release.
Gbit head, part of a northen pod set or something
>>5665304
The northen pod, 648 Aug release
>>5665307
Equipped on the impulse
>>5665308
Gya Eastern Weapons, 648yen Aug as well
>>5665311
I should have just posted the link instead of dumping, silly me.
Anyway, there isnt much new stuff left for bandai. Theres an SDF-1 1/4000 kit though, and a new Virtual-On fembot
http://hobby.dengeki.com/event/199633/
>>5665313
Macross busts courtesy of /a/
Lots of new 1/700 boats from Aoshima
Also graf zepplin hype
http://hobby.dengeki.com/event/200174/
>>5665322
>still no 1/700 ARP Musashi
This is just day one revelation, right?
How long is this event supposedly?
>>5665355
4 days iirc. I doubt there'll be much else.
Where the fuck is Koto
>>5665355
until sunday but public viewing won't start til the weekend
>>5665311
This massive rifle is so bland.
>>5665360
they're absent from the exhibitor list so no part in the show this year
>>5665364
Well they've already shown their hands with baselard and the new gigantic arms so not much left to display I guess.
>>5665367
I doubt there's any more metal gear after yoji Shinkawa's departure from Konami, and I really wanted a 1/12 gecko and 1/100 zeke /peace Walker /shagohod
>>5665395
Belphegor?
Vassago?
Caim?
>>5665265
He is trap
>>5665400
We still got 68 demon names
>>5665400
baal desu
>muh blood
>>5665304
>ask for a GM
>"Sure! Here's a GM head!"
WELL I MEAN... I GUESS.
Are there any news about a RE:1/100 Bellpepper release over there at the expo?
Please, I'm already on the verge of buying the Repaired version, if a RE:1/100 really comes out then I'll have to revise my plan ;__;
>>5665427
Nope. Next RE100 was just shown in one of those silhouette light boxes that distort the shape but it clearly wasn't Kshatriya.
>>5665436
I already have the HG, is repaired worth my money?
There are so many ZZ kits that could do with a RE 1/100, Zssa, Dreissen, Hamma Hamma, etc.
>>5665437
Ask yourself
>>5665060
What's that ship on the left?
>>5665480
Looks like an A-wing to me
>I dont even watch star wars
>google it
>turns out I'm right
>>5665221
Instructions were not clear, Mock came out white.
>>5665480
>>5665509
Any more pics of new SW stuff?
>>5665513
Looks easy to me
>swappable calves
>back/bicep hardpoints to mount transformed VF
And thats it. The VF has no need to transform into any other forms, just unplug the leg/arm assembly and equip to the gril, then transform the rest of the VF and plug it into the back.
But its just a concept anon, things could change(like never ever releasing).
>>5665511
new mechacholle ywing.
no decent pics of the clone trooper yet and there's a no photography sign for the battle droid and the rest if more prototypes are on display
>>5665525
FAGs don't have removable armor.
>>5665528
>implying anyone cares about the no photography signs
Also I keep thinking that Bandai made them into cute girls when I hear ____colle.
>>5665525
I'm no shinkifag, but that Straf kit looks pretty nice, I wouldnt diss them
>>5665528
Can you buy Bandai Star Wars stuff without ebay or shady Amazon sellers?
I don't want to pay importer prices for a HG kit.
>>5665532
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>5665532
Whats got you salty?
>>5665543
Ok
>>5665529
What? FAGs are literally made to add armor on top. It's the whole point.
>>5665537
definitely no for an open house show but this time only official guests and VIPs are around
>>5665553
Not really, the base kit doesn't have removable armor of any sorts. There's no "cast off" option, so to speak, so the anon's right.
>>5665565
Anon, I...
Are you inebriated?
>>5665547
Nothing else but i heard they're sold in some asian countries through official distributors. If you live there then maybe your nearest toy store sells them.
>>5665579
I do and yes just about everyone sells them
>>5665565
Holy shit dude, come on.
>>5665579
Burgerclap here, and there's not even one toy store other than a Toys R Us and overpriced Hobby Shop near me.
I'm used to SAL.
Friendly reminder to not reply to shitposters
They can and should be ignored
>>5665601
why does /toy/ let shitposters go full namefag without doing anything
>>5665606
refer to
>>5665590
FAGs have some cast off armor parts and their limbs are designed to be swapped out easily.
What they mostly have is hardpoints that make it easy to attach parts and weapons to.
>>5665612
I can only think of Gourai's thigh plates that can be removed without looking like absolute trash.
But thats beside the point though. We're all arguing over nothing here, FAGs are fine for what they are, shinkis are shinkis and not FAGs
>>5665509
My prayers have finally been answered praise Plamor
Did they say when this will be out?
>>5665590
I bought the bandai kit with the swords and missile pods just for the swords (they're the shit btw) and now I'm thinking I might put the pods on Stylet's shoulders.
You guys think if I stuck her shoulder fins on the side of the missile pods it would look okay?
>>5665656
test it and find out
>>5665528
I wish I had the space to build and display all these different star wars kits
>>5665656
I have no idea which one you're referring to but probably not
Thank you mod/janitors
Turns out I was baited hard, I thought it was two different anons
>>5665509
for a display piece that canopy looks like absolute ASS
How is future so magical? shit can be nearly dripping and it still dries fine in the end.
>>5665685
Study fluid dynamics and chemistry I suppose
>>5665685
1000s of dollars of research by SC Johnson so they don't get sued by stupid soccer moms that don't read instructions.
>>5665684
Bandai display pieces often look like garbage since they're 3D printed placeholders.
>>5665842
Or they're just grey prototypes.
>>5665842
>>5665845
Still mad.
What's the cheapest way of getting gunpla in Europe? (France particularly)
Cuz site like amiami have good prices but the shipping costs are horribly expensive
Amazon seems to be the best deal but isn't there anything better,?
>>5665854
Hard to blame them, considering that they expected Age to be the big saviour of Gundam for kids and then that turned out to be a nostalgia wank toy show.
I'm curious how many gunpla builders in these threads post their shit on youtube
Seems like it would be an easy way to slowly build some as revenue since I see some people with thousands of subs who just poorly snap fit kits together
>>5665897
Isn't there copyright on gundam stuff? I'm not sure if you could make money like that
>>5665904
Aren't "reviews" under fair use though?
plenty of people make money from playing video games or review films
>>5665883
Hobbylinkjapan works better than Amiami, shipping costs wise, if you play a bit with the private warehouse.
Otherwise, yeah I get them via Amazon/ebay, sometimes. Be wary of using EMS with HLJ though, they use chronopost once the package is in France, who overcharges the TVA tax with their own bullshit fee.
Just discovered this kit was a thing
how was it, and is it still possible to buy?
>>5666011
>memebot
>>5665904
You can't sue people for reviewing your products (even if they are making money from the review) unless you have evidence that they are outright falsifying information. Basically its protected like parody is.
It's also really not worth sueing over and usually is bad press if you do. Companies will even occasionally send larger reviewers free new products to help advertise them.
>>5666038
what does that even mean? do you know what meme even means?
>>5666061
Yes?
>>5666061
>Memereply
>>5665939
Thanks anon
>>5666011
dalong.net/review/kotobukiya/gr01/gr01_i.htm
>>5666050
Yeah I know that the companies aren't especially picky about reviews but YouTube is a bitch and delete videos even without the company asking for it sometime
>>5666050
Bandai managed to block the /m/ sings videos about 50 times, despite them being totally original.
But they don't caret about free marketing.
>>5666011
>wanting a Studio HalfEye hand grenade as soon as you find out it exists
That's a $500 disaster waiting to happen. I wouldn't bother.
I remember someone taking a look at a sample model and I immediately thought to myself "I'd rather have two separate models/figures with proper anime proportions than one comprehensive model/figure with janked up proportions in both forms".
I'm painting the forearm bits of the Crossbone Mao, and I was debating if I should buy some Tamiya tape to use around its little solar panel thingys. I plan to prime the whole piece first if that makes a difference.
>>5666100
If you're masking to paint those spaces, make sure you do the base coat (the grey body) first.
>forearm bits
Just the forearms?
>>5666107
I'm using them as sub-arms on a custom unit I'm putting together.
>>5664994
FUCK! I wanted that gaudy piece of shit.
>>5665506
Hah. You funny. You a funny funny man.
>>5666081
>dalong.net/review/kotobukiya/gr01/gr01_i.htm
Oh wow. That's REALLY rough compared to what I was expecting out of those kits.
what is a "custom"
>>5666210
what is a "retard"
>>5666236
ur mom
>>5666236
someone with mental retardation
>>5665547
I buy all mine off amazon
>>5666153
It's a super early Kotobuiya kit.
The Bandai Real Revolution stuff is better but that line died out after Xabungle.
>>5665437
I bought both for $80, built the repair first and its pretty damn great. Still need to build norm
>>5666091
Sending a C&D or asking a site to take something down (Or in the case of youtube they take it down themselves before even being asked) is not the same as a lawsuit. You can send letters and requests like that willy nilly for the stupidest of reasons because technically it is a private matter and the law is not involved in it yet. Its only if one party ignores the request or decides to escalate it into court that it becomes a legal issue.
They can't sue you over it without looking like idiots and assholes, but they can sure as hell send letters just like any old senior citizen dissatisfied with something.
Can't find the GM v2.0 anywhere for a non-rape prices halp
>>5666326
wait for a restock
what kind of paint schemes and decals would make a kit look distinctly WWII era Russian?
>>5666592
paint it brown
>>5666592
Look at their tanks for that era and copy the scheme. You go 1/144 with both the tank and gunpla kit, the 1/144 tank decals will work.
>>5666592
heavy weathering and a shitload of rivets
>>5666592
It's literally solid green, white numbers, and a white bordered star. The interior color of the star is up to you.
>>5666592
Adidas
>>5666592
give it a ushanka and a bottle of vodka and kill it and write russia on it
>>5666618
>Red Russian Strike
So was there any more info given about those Star Wars kits?
I'm really diggin that A wing.
Man... Why couldn't he be wearing a fucking shirt? I mean, he's only shirtless in like three episodes.
I can't have a bust of a naked teenage boy on my desk; I'm pretty sure you get arrested for that shit.
>>5666636
>wanting Mikazuki when Guts is getting a bust
And, no, "Gundam Protaganist collection" isn't an excuse to get Mikazuki.
>>5666636
He doesn't have nipples so it's k.
>>5666636
F U J O
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>>5666636
>Why couldn't he be wearing a fucking shirt?
grats you are the equivalent of an SJW fag
>>5666643
Not him, i like mika but him shirtless is kinda weird. I get that he's shirtless sinve he's with not guts, and theyre shirtless when training. The jacket over shirtless woulda been better
>>5666643
I just don't want physical representations of half naked children chilling in my house.
>>5666640
Well, besides Char, the pickins are kinda slim. I don't want any SEED or try shit, and I don't give a fuck about 00.
But I want the line to survive so I can get characters that don't suck.
>>5666678
>wave 2 comes out
>more seed shit plus random waifus
>even that background feddie from unicorn gets one before your favorite character does
>>5666678
If you like Macross Delta, the Walkure girls are getting some. I'm just waiting on Amuro, and praying to Plamor for Kai.
>>5666692
Amuro has to be a lock for wave 2. Has to be.
I wouldn't mind Ral, or a Sayla. Hell, I'd even settle for a Ryu.
>>5666622
Post pics anon, sounds great.
any pics of all the dbz model kits?
>>5666722
nobody gives a shit about amuro
>that kid buu
>>5666747
>Kid Buu
>Fat Buu
>No Super Buu
Man, that's some shit. Ignoring the best Buu form.
>>5666755
>hating on fat buu
Not surprised a tripfag has shit taste
>>5666626
Found this somewhere, here's the rest of the Star Wars kit display, anon.
The A wing comes with that turret accessory.
When you guys are painting kits with inner frames, do you topcoat the inner frame separately from the outer armor or topcoat a limb with all the armor attached? I'm feeling if I did any detailed painting on the inner frame at all, I'd have to topcoat it first before armor unless I want scratch marks all over my pistons, right?
>>5666793
>Battle Droid with speeder
>Interceptor
>A-Wing
>Fucking Clone
My fucking dick, so fucking good, now I don't have to pay a fortune to figuarts to army build droids and clones
>>5666793
>clone trooper too
fuck yes
how would you prime when using a metalic paint like pic related?
black?
grey?
chrome/silver base layer?
>>5666793
Thanks a lot!
The turret is a neat addition. I just hope they'll release a B-wing at some point too, then my life will be complete.
The droids and clone trooper are looking pretty damn good too.
What are those other models on the left? Just smaller, less detailed versions of the 1/72 kits released before?
>>5666793
B-wing when
>>5666819
metallic paints are shit, candies are way better for any plamo because of scale
black gloss and chrome or a metallic base then a clear color
>>5666793
oh shit, is that a Star destroyer kit?
They better fucking make other capital ships!
>>5666793
OH SHIT, those troopers!
>>5666747
>Anonymo
Holy crap, they are going all in on the DBZ model kits.
>>5666835
apparently cell, kid buu, ssj3 goku, and gohan are there only planned releases
I've been weathering the Wehrmech today, anything else I should do before I topcoat it? And do I topcoat with gloss or matte varnish?
>>5666821
The small ones are palm sized kits like the Yamato mecha collection. Good detail for size.
Droids may release August or September if they skip a month. I'm holding out for a B wing and also the Droid Starfighter myself.
>>5666873
gloss it mate
>>5666894
even with the weathering? won't that make the soot from the bullet holes out of place?
Can you do panel washes with metallic paints?
I've got some parts I might paint black, and I thought doing the panel lines in gold or silver might look nice.
>>5666873
Matte.
>>5666734
dalong
>>5666793
>That head swap
Oh bandai.
Has anyone built this kit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gundam-Bandai-Model-RG-MG-HG-Kit-Huge-Over-60-Kits-/222112231442?hash=item33b6ebb012:g:LTMAAOSw3zxXL7Sv
>>5666798
If the final finish of the armor is different than the frame top coat separately.
Scratched paint is something that always happen on parts like the inner frame. It is suggested to sand the parts a bit if the fit is too tight and result in paint scratches.
>>5666819
Primer> Gloss Black> Metallic
I skip the gloss black if I feel it won't affect the final finish.
Chrome and silver is more for clear colors I believe.
>>5666939
as much as that seems like a really good deal, i can't justify dropping $300 bucks on this shit at once, even though i have spent so much more than that over a couple months
>>5666945
But it's over 60 kits!
>>5666950
too many
i don't know how much it'll keep rising over the next 3 days but it will still probably end up being a good deal
i could probably keep just the ones i want and turn the rest around to recoup my losses
i, however, am far too lazy
>>5666954
Sazabi for 10 bucks!
>>5666956
what are you, the seller?
>>5666960
No, of course not.
>>5666956
You can pretty much expect the prices to shoot up right before the auction ends. They always do.
The big bidders come in expecting to snipe in the last minute, and if they can't it turns into a high-speed bidding war in no-time.
>>5666939
enjoy receiving a shipment of empty boxes
>>5667000
Is Fried-Kun not a reputable seller?
>>5666931
When I was a kid actually. It was fun.
Finished building architect. Somehow lost the bits for the head, and one of the hair pegs broke off so i have em off for now
>>5667077
Each new fag feels like an improvement over the last one. Cant wait for bunnysuit baselord to come out
Can anyone recommend a good cheap router? I would pretty much use it only for battle damage and possibly removing flash on resin kits in the future. There's a Mr. Router for like $100, but I can't believe it should be that expensive.
>>5667107
Just got to your local store and find then cheapest one they have
you're only using it to shave plastic
>>5667107
You can get a Chinese router for like 40 bucks on amazon. Should be fine, but you should look into American made heads/bits
>>5665547
plamoya sell all the bandai star wars kits for decent prices and ship anywhere. They dont stock the new mecha colle series yet, not sure why.
>>5666873
Were there any German panzer that were painted green?
>>5667117
for 40 bucks you might as well get a dremel.
>>5667107
i've had a linksys router for as long as i can remember and havent had any problems
>>5667138
good one m8
RE 1/100 this please and then MP Zeta.
What's the point of doing 2 coats if this 1 cost looks fine. Pic related. Just getting into airbrushing...
>>5667155
Hey, if you think you got it in one, more power to you. The whole point is to make something you think looks good, if you're happy that's what matters. Looks good to me as well.
>>5667155
Let it dry nicely and then go into sunlight with it. Sunlight will tell you if you got it.
>>5667136
>getting one of those shitty starter dremels
Don't waste your money mang
Wen rotary tool, 20 bucks on amazon. Comes with a flex shaft attachment.
>>5667174
Thanks, It was more of a sanity check then anything. I'm not so good at mixing thinner, the game air paints seem to be a lot more forgiving for beginers.
>>5667176
I'll ttry that, I already coated over the other batch of parts in this color, but I'll let these guys sit over night to inspect in the sun.
>>5667179
Oh shit, that looks pretty good. I might just pick that up.
>>5666789
I ain't hating, it's just not my fav. I love happy fat buu.
>>5667179
Shitty? really? Ive never had any issues.
I got one of these ones cheap. Works great for plastic & being cordless is a pretty big advantage. If all your doing is plastic though, that Wen one would do the job fine.
>>5667179
>tfw 15 USD shipping
>>5667107
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-IN-1-Battery-5-Nail-Drill-Handpiece-Bit-Electric-White-Nail-Drill-File-Tool-Manicure/32623574690.html
you literally don't need anything more powerful for plastic and
>machining
>resin
>at home
is really not a smart idea
>>5667390
>you literally don't need anything more powerful for plastic and
>>machining
>>resin
>>at home
>is really not a smart idea
Just vacuum. Or build one of those clean boxes. Those boxes where it's isolated from the outside and you interact with the contents using gloves connected to the box. I've seen some people build it using a clear plastic tub and rubber gloves.
>>5667155
it's not much of a challenge to cover something with paint in 1 coat, the trick is to cover in paint in as thin layer(s) as possible, that's where airbrush and multiple coats usually come into play
thin coats also tend to dry much faster and not grab dust out of the air (which your coat seems to have)
>>5667394
yeah, you can even build a whole clean room for working with resin.
or, you know, you can just wet sand it nice and slow by hand and avoid the expense
>inb4 time is money
>inb4 millennials can't into slow
>>5661128
i forget but was this feature shown in the anime?
what did it do?
>>5667155
that paint is way too thick. You're using a spraycan?
Oh good the red full armor unicorn comes with decals.
>>5667408
>caring about unicorn
>>5667413
>greentext
>>5667408
Too bad they won't sell those decal sheets by themselves.
>>5667408
>stickers
instead of making a rg unicorn this is what we get
>>5666747
Well fuck. I thought previous Figurerises looked like shit, and these don't look too great either to be honest, but I think I gotta have that Kid Buu, seeing as Bandai doesn't seem too keen on doing an SHF anytime soon.
>>5667454
reminder
>>5666626
A-wing out late may, haven't heard about the Interceptor yet
>>5666793
>Vehicle model
>A-wing
OK, want a original tie, but this is not bad.
>>5667155
Is this the Delta Kai?
>>5667525
There already is an original tie
>>5667565
Not in the 1/144 scale vehicle model line
And yes, the new smaller x wing from bandai is in scale with 144 even though they didn't say it.
I wonder just how far they are willing to go with the smaller size series. Bandia did a lot of mech colle Yamato. Maybe 144 at-at in the future?
>>5667574
F-toys did this 1/144 atat once.
If Bandai does it then it might disappoint some because it isn't 1/48 like the atst and snow speeder.
>>5667408
Those are those crappy looking clear stickers.
>>5667511
It's getting released that soon? Just when I thought things couldn't get better.
Now if only they'd release a B-wing too..
Question about the 1/100 Gusion, can I get like a cheaper 1/100 Graze or something and use that frame to put on Gusion's armor? I already have 1 as a Rebake but I want both. I am also open to light modding if that is what it takes.
>>5667755
Graze frames are different from gundam frames. Beyond that, I don't know.
>>5667755
No Graze. 1/100 Barbatos but you may really need mods because it doesn't have the same inner frame as Gusion.
>>5667602
It's so easy to forget the scale of mobile suits, like when metal gear Rex's rail gun is barely bigger than the gundams bazooka
>>5667647
Google "Bandai star wars" and you'll find the plamo site with the schedule for them, also monthly in the general Bandai release List
>>5667755
Nope. The barbatos frame won't work either without modding parts as gusions frame has some different connections and proportions compared to barbatos.
I already tried to swap the frames and the amount of mods needed started piling up.
very first one. how did I do guys?
>>5667943
Clean those nubs. Read the guide
>>5667943
I've seen a lot worse. Good for you, man.
