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86 Movie Edition
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>>5416488
Is this thing going to be available stateside? I guess I wouldn't mind importing it if the price is right. Really wish they packaged almost any other figure than Hot Rod, though. Wasn't like, fucking everyone on the Junk planet when the Junkions were introduced? Kup, Arcee, Springer... hell, it'd be awesome if they redid the packaging a bit and put Ultra Magnus in there.
It wasn't to be, though.
>>5416488
do people actually like that hot rod figure?
>>5416502
besides alt mode, no
>>5416488
http://pastebin.com/vgkZ1EBp
Speaking of which I just added Wreck-Gar
what are some of your favorite figures I should add?
I had a dream last night that Hastak Devastator in combined mode had a transformation and you could transform him into literally just a giant rectangle. Just a big rectangle. It was a really nice, seamless rectangle with neat purple patterns, but still.
In the dream I was extremely sad because (in real life) I'd already put in orders for a 3P Devy and I remember thinking "No 3P Devastator can turn into a rectangle..."
Anyway, I thought that Devastator could turn into a rectangle for a while after waking up, and was kind of bummed the whole time, but then I looked at some pictures and reality came back into effect.
>>5416525
Holy fuck, that made my night.
>>5416525
This isn't your blog.
>>5416525
>>5416525
>>5416525
>>5416599
Still inferior to the BW original.
>>5416599
The colors look so much better than that red clusterfuck.
post rection if hasbro releases cw seacons
>>5416599
Have Sea Clamp and Cicadacon switched places in terms of colors?
Neat colors, though.
>>5416502
Oh come on, it's not that bad.
Does anyone else own either Masterpiece Tracks or Masterpiece Road Rage? I'm not sure how the neck is supposed to work. The hinge it's on is nice and tight and is able to hold the head up at the right position just fine, but beneath it there's just... nothing. Nothing to brace it, nothing to snap into. Which means that when I'm posing her head I have to pull up slightly, otherwise she'll do her best imitation of a turtle and sink her head below her shoulders.
Was it really designed this way? I keep wondering if I'm missing something.
>>5416653
Never happening.
>>5416672
Pretty sure you're not missing anything, also are the legs on yours impossible to get apart?
>>5416620
The original wasn't very good though.
>>5416695
That makes it even more embarrassing.
>>5416697
As a combiner it's way better than the original.
As a homage? It sucks.
>>5416488
>Re-releasing that Hot Rod mold again
Hasbro what r u doin
>>5416715
I like that mold. It's arm ball joints are sometimes wonky, but it's a fun toy.
I have the flat cartoon-colored one, so I'm definitely getting that boxed set. I doubt it'll be $100, and that's what that set would run you with eBay prices.
>>5416737
While I agree that it's a decent figure and certainly not the worst, I do believe that Hot Rod kind of does deserve an updated figure. I don't mind if it's deluxe or voyager, but he should get a better one.
>>5416672
My Tracks' head has a click when I lift it up. And while there's some play in it between the click and its maximum elevation, it won't go down past the click without applying a little force. In your pic you certainly seem to be raising it high enough to lock, so I would assume its a QC problem.
>>5416753
Yeah that mold is quickly approaching the 10 year mark, how haven't we gotten a better Hotrod or even a Rodimus proper yet?
I'm a whore for Transformers that function as what they transform into. I just got a G1 Percy and I have a Ravage USB drive but what others are out here besides a 200$ soundwave MP3 player?
>>5416769
The rest of the device label line.
>>5416773
>More USB drives that are just repaints
>Weird Blaster that turns into a PC
>Gangly Grimlock and Trypticon mice
>>5416672
Mine's like that too. It seems to be the design.
>>5416758
Especially considering other Classics figures from the '86 movie are receiving updates before Rodimus already, such as Galvatron and Cyclonus. I wouldn't even mind if Rodimus snuck in like Galvatron as a headmaster for Titan Returns.
>>5416684
Legs are fine on mine.
>>5416672
Anybody else have a Road Rage stuck in fucking customs since the beginning of the month? It's getting kind of ridiculous.
>>5416809
I bet we'll get a Hotrod or a Rodimus in Titans Return, and I'm hoping that the second half of the line is Target "titan"masters since they said that all -masters are titanmasters now, it's a blanket term.
>>5416781
Hey, you asked.
>>5416857
I order from BBTS in part to avoid stuff like that.
>completed my Ferguson Prime
Aww yiss.
>>5416903
>buying multiples of the same figure because of a forced meme
Momma would be so proud if she hadn't killed herself over how much sweat she had to scrub out of your wal Mart fedoras and guy fawkes masks.
>>5416910
>I really showed it to a guy on the internet today
>>5416904
Yeah, but if they don't make a new one, theres no new choice. So it's this, the new MP, or pretty much nothing
>>5416903
And here I am waiting on my grand scourge to complete my black power prime.
I wanted a ferguson prime too but in the end I made optimus maximus and my black power prime will be made with existing figures.
Why waste money on doubling up when I can use what I already have?
>Grand scourge body
>Offroad foot
>Air Raid Arm
>Swindle Skate
>Hoist future Foot
>Hound Future Skate
Haven't worked out the other arm yet but aiming for a mix of my darkest characters.
I really don't want 2 air raids and 2 hoist with 2 swindles, fuck that
>>5416910
>>5416918
Oh you like dank memes too, bran?
>>5416938
Bran you know I do bran
>>5416938
>>5416950
These post give me the shits
>>5416910
Have jimmies been rustled?
>>5416599
No matter how many times Funpub lovers digibash that, it is still shit.
>>5416653
>>5416656
Basically he's making it so the jet is now Sea Clamp, and the torso is Cicadacon.
>>5416781
Rumble and Frenzy headphones who are decent, but too large/heavy.
Also Optimus with iPod dock trailer. I had this and it's pretty great. You also get a new, very accurate head for Optimus.
>>5416910
THIS FUCKER IS SUPPORTING THE US ECONOMY AND YOU'RE TOO BUSY SUCKING ON MEGATRON'S EXHAUST PORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL, YOU PILE OF SLAG.
FUCK.
FUCK.
>>5417121
>buying multiples of a toy made in taiwan, designed by the japanese
>supporting US economy
So there's a video out showing the transformation of MP Ironhide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bEJ-KSxEow&feature=youtu.be). It's only of an unpainted test shot, though. Makes me wonder, so far all we've seen of Ironhide are unpainted test shots. Usually by now we get in-hand pictures of the actual toy or at least the box. Wonder if Ironhide will be delayed?
>>5417138
I'm still unclear if he's self-contained or a partsformer
>>5417145
Self-contained. The 'sled' is a separate part that's only used as a stand to store his accessories.
>>5416769
>besides a 200$ soundwave MP3 player?
Anon, I bought that Soundwave for 50 bucks off Mandarake a few weeks ago. In fact another 50 dollar one was sold a few days ago
You could always buy the Soundwave cassete player from the 80s, which does cost around $200
>>5416903
alright anon, enough with the small shit. did you buy 6 Rooks or not?
it aint Ferguson Prime without Rook shoes. dont you go raping my childhood memories of Ferguson Prime!
>>5416910
*tips fedora*
>>5416501
Ultra Magnus?
Hasbro can't deal with that now.
Grape Ape
>>5417196
Optimus Prime
...looks like my old ultra class
>>5416684
My Tracks legs were 20 minutes of terror trying to separate out of car mode
>>5417208
I hope you weren't trying to pull them apart.
Slide one and the other down
i want to start collecting transformer toys, especially the masterpiece toys.
Is it worth getting into this hobby? Were do i start? Are the figures easy to find to buy?
>>5417243
>Is it worth getting into this hobby?
You have to choose between spending your money on cancer research or buying plastic trinkets to fulfill your personal fantasy.
I think it's worth it.
>>5417243
Depends which line, the robots in disguise line (as in what's in shops now) are easiest and cheapest to get BUT the japanese versions are superior in terms of paint deco (transformers adventure) as well as some variations that you may not get elsewhere in that line.
Combiner wars maybe harder to find especially for older figures depending on the size class, better off getting the Unite Warriors sets but since only superion and menasor are the only standard releases expect to pay more overall.
As for mp's how extensive are you going to collect, alot of the older ones may be pricey second hand, bootlegs are an option if you have the tolerance.
But right now you should be fine with the fan favs getting re-releases like optimus prime, ultra magnus and wheeljack, if you want mp's pick the guys you like, getting them all will cost you.
Now the best place to get mp's is straight from the source, Japan, if you want something that's been and gone try mandarake for second hand ones, combiner wars and robots in disguise are in local shops though availability may vary.
>>5417252
I want to get mainly the decepticons like star scream and soundwave but they are pretty expensive online. In Australia they are all over $300+
>>5417259
>In Australia
Aye m8 guess we're in the same boat.
Getting the proper soundwave is gonna be a bitch, I caved and got the year of the goat for $129, and myers had him on sale for $99 around christmas time which was a bitch, all I can suggest is mandarake for him but its mostly sound blaster's with ratbat (exclusive to this black repaint), shame the hasbro mp soundwave is the most expensive one (but it did come all the cassettes, much like the YOTG one).
Starscream was a bit easier for me, got the recent hasbro one for about $140 from toys r us but we had very limited numbers, better off ringing around, though the mold has some issues and the fittings on mine are fucked.
If you want the takara (japanese one) there is one on ebay for $250 (first result), no flight stand like the hasbro BUT you get a spiffy crown and cape, and this guy selling the asia reissue so it comes with a collector coin if you're into that sorta thing.
Do avoid mp megatron, aside from being kinda shitty looking he's technically illegal as he counts as a replica firearm, I just got lucky with mine, some states allow him but you need a gun license and gun locker.
I find going on ebay for the hasbro ones to be a safe bet cost wise though they may not hold a candle to the more pricy takara ones.
Also mp shockwave is still up for pre-order, try hlj, amiami or premiumcollectables.com.au for him and others where available.
>>5417243
>Is it worth getting into this hobby
Just for the MPs. Retail is shit right now, except for the cheap little legends figures which are at least justified in their compromises. Although they're not even that cheap anymore.
>Were do i start? Are the figures easy to find to buy?
Well, if you like Masterpiece, start there. Unfortunately, they're not easy to find/buy. You need to import them from a Japanese dealer site like HLJ, AmiAmi or Anime Export. And most older figures are completely sold out. You could try a local importer like BBTS or TFsource, but their prices are insane. Your other option is ebay, which opens you up to second hand, or buying the KOs, and quality varies greatly on those, but they are readily available and comparatively cheap, so there's that.
To be honest, I never understand people who ask if they should get into a certain hobby. Is it worth it? I think that's up to you, isn't it? You'd think if you cared enough to start collecting something, you'd put in the time to research and look at the product and decide whether or not you want to spend your money on it for yourself. You shouldn't have to be talked into a hobby. In fact, you should be so into it that nobody can talk you out of it. I feel like there's this weird imperative nowadays to be "into" something just so you can carve a notch on your belt.
>>5417305
It is. Repaint wars
>>5417305
I buy a bit of everything, if I don't like it I don't buy.
I'd love an mp of everything but there isn't an mp superion yet
>>5417305
>as if nothing is worth buying right now other than that?
As a collector, no, I don't feel there is anything else worth buying, besides MP and the legends class figures like I mentioned. Everything deluxe-leader class is just riddled with lowered QC and compromises. I don't feel the need to buy toys just to fill out some '80s cartoon cast checklist. I want toys that are impressive to look at and smartly engineered, and right now, most retail releases aren't that. And I'm not bitching about it, I'm just not buying. Vote with your wallet, as they say.
I do buy the legends class toys because they are actually better engineered than most deluxe figures, since we're wading through repaint wars. The little figures give me something quick to transform and fun to fiddle with, while MPs give me a complex, detailed figure. Everything else just sort of occupies this space in between that I don't feel the need for.
>are you hearing yourself?
You're the one who is sperging out that people aren't buying the same stuff that you're buying. Chill.
>>5417319
yeah me too, I only buy the cool ones like Soundwave, Exhaust, and Star Saber
People get so fuckin excited for Sideswipe and Prowl and whoever, but those guys barely did shit in the show.
>>5417329
I buy because of the design, truth be told I kinda like prowl and sideswipe for their alt modes, got me star saber exhaust as well.
Really, its just opinion, nothing wrong with those buying shitty designs if they grew up with the character, hence how I can tolerate owning all of the current mp11 hasbro repaints, same for those buying what's cool looking.
Its because of this people actually like the UW/CW devastator at all.
>>5417331
I think the new Devastator is cool, his arms are just shitty.
I bought the UW cause I think the Contructicons are cool
>>5417335
I disliked the proportions but I grew up without a devy to call my own as a kid, so I myself got the UW.
Really the CW would of been enough seeing how its just devastator I want, but its the complete package and it does has the better g1 paint job without any touchup work
>>5417076
I think you're confused, people aren't digibashing it as a favour to Funpub, they're doing it out of derision towards Funpub's choices.
>>5417329
>but those guys barely did shit in the show.
>judging the value of a toy based on its prominence in a 30-year-old cartoon
Kek. Then you'd be overlooking the fact that the Datsun mold is easily the best of the MP cars. I really don't give a shit about whatever Smokescreen did in the show, but holy fuck his paint job and alt. mode are gorgeous.
What are your opinions on the ROTF Leader Class Megatron and should I get it if I get the chance
Regardless of your thoughts on the Predacus set, I'm glad they're staying consistent with boxart and cards.
>>5417421
I skipped it because that skinny left arm just looks weird.
Voyager crabtank is fun though.
>>5417424
Still don't get why they used Rook for Tarantulas but whatever.
>>5417426
art's nice as fuck
I love Tarantulas, so I cant believe that Funpub Managed to screw up two releases for him in a row
>Motorcycle Tarantulas doesnt get a new head, while an Actionmaster and an unreleased toy do
>Rook Tarantulas has his Transmetal paint job even though he didnt have those colors on Cybertron
am I being nitpicky here? i dunno. i love the character so I just wanna see him done right
>>5417430
It probably would've been made better if they have him a buzzsaw type weapon instead of rooks jaws of life.
Funpub and hasbros obsession with giving the exact same weapons to every mold and it's reuse is stupid.
>>5417196
>>5417198
Aww yeah now we're talking.
>>5416488
Genuinely thought those were kos, they look like the quick change cyberform. Robots who disguises stuff.
>>5417196
Give it a hard cock and I'm sold, anon.
>>5417331
Hey Let’s take Jesus off the dashboard.
Got enough on his mind. I do agree with your opinion. Just buy what you like.
There's no true objective side to buying a toy. Everything is always subjective. Every design will always appeal to someone. The fact that someone thought, approved, and produced a toy is a proof of this.
>>5417243
http://pastebin.com/vgkZ1EBp Here you go
>>5417196
>>5417198
Honestly I think the Ultra class, especially the updated one that came in the 10th anniversary 2-pack, is perfectly fine. This just looks unnecessary.
Call me when you have an updated Megatron that actually has a removable claw and is cartoon accurate. Which will most likely be never.
>>5417196
>>5417198
Seems like the transformation has some interesting changes I wasn't expecting.
>>5417505
I see that he still has his shoulder missiles
>>5417511
Yeah, but the whole back turns 180º now.
>>5417489
I feel the same, but this would probably be better articulated in both molds.
Still better have the swords and made...
>>5417516
>yeah he used them as guns and as a jetpack.
Not really, in th show the jetpack was different from the cannons. The Robotmaster Beast Convoy got it right.
>>5417519
>Still better have the swords and made...
The mace will be removed, in the show he had two cannons on each forearm. But it's possible they include it as an extra piece or something.
>>5417541
>I hope he's at least a big figure.
On the other hand, I expect it to a bit taller than a Voyager. Like an inch and a half less than the Ultra class Primal.
For some reason a huge Masterpiece Primal would feel wrong to me, and the new transformation would be more amazing if they include it in a smaller figure.
>>5417553
It depends on whether you buy 1 Optimus Primal or 10 Optimus Primals.
>>5417553
>Since there's gonna be an updated Optimus Primal, what are the chances of an updated Megatron, as well?
>MP 10 Convoy was released in 2011
>Still no new MP Megatron.
Don't count on it anytime soon.
>>5417548
> and the new transformation would be more amazing if they include it in a smaller figure
That doesn't always work out. Look at generations rattrap.
>>5417553
My bet is unlikely. They'll never release any villains. Because even if you buy 10 Primals, they'll probably just do another maximal next.
Remember, Megatron wasn't the cool and calculating character we know him as in Beast Wars. In the Japanese dub, he was a shrieking coward.
>>5417570
We're talking about Masterpieces here. Most MP cars are good.
And Generations Rattrapp isn't that bad, I own the Takara one and is an OK figure for the price point, had zero problems with it.
>>5417577
It has no playability in bot mode because of the overengineering for his size.
>>5417577
Most?
where's a good place to sell an energon omega supreme?
>>5417505
Do you think that they're going to paint the whole thing like shitty 90's CGI texturing?
>>5417684
Ebay, tfw20005, or BST thread on this board. How much are you selling for?
>>5417688
still need to figure out a price, some anonns a couple of threads ago were saying it's worth hundreds cause it has the head, but I'll need to look more into it
>>5417489
Toy Fair is right around the corner. We could get another MP BW figure announcement, and if they're going to do just two, Megatron is the next logical choice.
...Or they could mimic the Optimus/Bumblebee popularity thing and make Cheetor instead. But we've never really had a decent figure of him so I'd take that too.
>>5417695
It's not going to sell for hundreds. Around $100 at the highest if it's complete with everything. More realistically you'll get buyers if you sell at the 50-75 range.
>>5417757
The original Cheetor figure was good. Just a bad cheetah.
>>5417566
>>5417553
Man, I just realized what butthurt would happen if we got MP Beast Megatron before MP G1 Megatron v2. Not that I care, I think G1 Megs looks pretty bland, while BW Megs has a nostalgic place in my heart.
I think the rumor was that MP Primal, Cheetor, and Rattrap are the ones we'll definitely see. Rattrap seems like an odd choice when Dinobot's around,and his last update is still pretty good.
>>5417685
>Do you think that they're going to paint the whole thing like shitty 90's CGI texturing?
I actually hope so, but painting the CGI fur over the whole figure seems to be asking too much, even for Takara.
>>5417666
Didn't say "all" because I didn't want to trigger the Bumblebee-deluxe-size-posting or the Ironhide-looks-bad-posting.
Now it's too late.
>>5417836
unpopular opinion time I don't mind MP Megatron because in my mind he represents an updated toy aesthetic not an updated cartoon model so I would much rather have an MP BW Megs
>>5417838
Right. Ironhide.
Didn't register in my head as an Autobot car for whatever reason.
>Motormaster is better than Optimus
>Onslaught is better than Hot Spot
Will Leozack/Deathsaurus/whatever be better than Sky Lynx?
>>5417836
>Man, I just realized what butthurt would happen if we got MP Beast Megatron before MP G1 Megatron v2.
Now I want that too happen.
>>5417861
The art didn't make it seem like Sky-Lynx was heavily retooled, the only change you can make out is the head, and the wings looked the same.
>>5417259
Masterpieces are a hard place to start. They're extremely expensive, especially since a ton of them are scalped to fuckall and back. You can even buy 3P shit cheaper than a lot of MP's because of how bad the scalping is, and most 3P's are overpriced as fuck.
>>5417836
Beast Wars Megatron was a better Megatron anyway.
>>5417861
Arent hotspot and onslaught the same thing with just a different backpack and some minor retooling?
>>5417918
This. G1 megs was the typical 80s cartoon villain. No different than skeleton or cobra commander.
>>5417881
>. They're extremely expensive, especially since a ton of them are scalped to fuckall and back.You can even buy 3P shit cheaper than a lot of MP's because of how bad the scalping is
Only if you don't know where to shop.Hint: use Mandarake. Barring the larger stuff like Starsaber, Starscream, and so on, MPs are still way cheaper than 3P stuff.
>>5417489
The original is still a great toy, this is just better. Expanding out of just collecting transformers has made me more picky, and also less complacent. This character had an updated figure only 4 years after the original version in the line. The original is still a better toy than most. But the newer version just feels more like a collector's figure.
>>5417926
Alterations include the shoulders, feet, head, backpack, and chest plate. I also heard they fixed the hips, so that's at least a 40% difference.
>>5417876
All they've done is change the wings and the tip of the shuttle so it looks more like a hawk in beast mode, maybe it has a robot mode and they scrapped shuttle but i doubt it. Torso colors emulate leozak/jarugar beast is deathsaurus
>>5417929
>killed the hero of his show
>and a bunch of other ppoular characters
>never truly died, got updated
>well, ok, the update came with a new personality and looks so he technically died I guess
Yeah, no one else accomplished that shit in the 80's. You didn't see Cobra Commander nuking Duke and popping Snake Eyes in the chest, or Mumma-Ra buttfucking the cast of Thundercats to death.
BW Megatron barely managed to kill Dinobot, and couldn't even kill the rest of them when he had a whole planet at his disposal.
>>5417926
Yeah. But the way Onslaught is designed means the backpack is far less invasive.
>>5417926
Onslaught has the hip issue fixed and doesn't have the ladder-through-the-crotch thing Hotspot has for bodymode, meaning Onslaught is a more stable body.
However, Onslaugt isn't as stable in bot mode, he's a little tipping prone even with the heel spurs they added, especially since Hotspot's ladder basically doubles as a figure stand for him, letting him pull off more poses and not be as tippy as Onslaught.
>>5417962
Beast Wars Megatron was willing to destroy the spacetime continuum.
>>5417955
Yes, but we haven't seen any of that, all we have to goo for is the box art.
>>5417962
You must not remember the rule with cartoons. Robots can die violent deaths. Humans can't.
Also it's pretty nifty that you left out how BW megatron took over all of cybertron and made a race of evil henchmen with some of their generals being controlled by stolen maximal sparks.
Its cool though.
>>5417861
nothing is better than Skylynx
>>5417982
But that doesn't trump looking for energon storage every episode.
How is MP Starsaber? Anyone here have him? Was thinking of nabbing him just because he looks damn cool. How big is he? Any issues with his mold?
>>5418019
He is a big guy. I have him, not sure on his exact height as he's in storage at the moment. I have no issues with mine and I can't remember if there was anything to complain about beside the standard "NOT MUH 84-85 G1 GUY!!!"
>>5418019
He is as big as UM, and he is amazing. Great articulation for a bot that big, he also has a bunch of cool gimmicks that replicate his transformation in the show.
>>5417992
Those guys from transmissions have gotten the leaks and they've all come true so far
>>5418019
He's okay. He's a must if you're a fan of the Brave series.
>>5417962
Serpentor basically killed duke in the GI Joe movie, except it was rewritten last minute so he lives.
>>5418084
Starsaber was reused in Brave?
>>5418101
Nah. He just has a very Brave-esque toy both in terms of gimmicks and aesthetics.
>>5418110
I like Brave and I've always wanted to get into collecting it but I've never known quite where to start, any recommendations? I'd like to avoid non-transforming figures
>>5418137
Only ones I own are a KO HyoRyu and EnRyu. They're pretty neat molds. They also combine like Animated Jetfire and Jetstorm did, but they pull it off far better.
>>5417430
>am I being nitpicky here?
>>Rook Tarantulas has his Transmetal paint job even though he didnt have those colors on Cybertron
For this part, yes. This isn't a pre-BW set, so it doesn't matter which set of colors he has. It IS a stupid mold for him though.
>>5418224
>post beast wars
>the trio would've had their earth/figure colors by then
>funpub still does red
>>5418276
It's not a post Beast Wars set either...
>>5418279
Well it sure as hell isn't during.
>>5418287
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars_Uprising
>>5418192
Yeah, they fit right in with other toys.
![954711-3972_image2_western_gorilla_mwatson[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mOSbuYh.jpg "954711-3972_image2_western_gorilla_mwatson[1].jpg")
>>5417196
the proportions are all wrong
>>5418296
>>5418299
![article-2604010-1D117B7900000578-981_634x420[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Kx3ZZxP.jpg "article-2604010-1D117B7900000578-981_634x420[1].jpg")
>>5418298
all wrong part 2
>>5418298
It's not supposed to be real life accurate.
>>5417430
Luckily for you there's an alternate season 2 colour scheme version that you can do a headswap with.
Just see the TM colouring as the Tripredacus Council coming along with Ravage on the Earth mission.
>>5418137
Get land bison, very g1 esque gestalt members and kickass combined mode
>>5418307
Im not expecting 100% accuracy, but this is supposed to be a masterpiece figure. So it shouldn't look like some uncanny valley gorilla.
>>5418291
Oh something that doesn't matter
>>5418313
Season 1*, bah.
>>5418313
Too bad impactor costs an arm and a leg or I would get it, would probably get mayhem squad too but those club fucks want 300 for that thing
>>5418319
It should, however, look like the gorilla that he is in the show which is probably what they're going for. Blame Mainframe for modeling the animals terrible 20 years ago.
>>5418320
Yeah, pretty much. Besides, I'd rather they not try to shoehorn another story into the BW timeline.
>>5418298
>>5418306
Yes, real gorillas proportions are all wrong compared to Optimus Primal. Thank god they're using the show renders as reference to desing the Masterpiece instead of real gorilla pictures that doesn't look like the character.
>>5417198
That view of the legs and feet from the front is bothering me.
It looks too much like reversed legs. especially with those tiny feet
>>5418339
>>5418325
>>5418329
You guys mean this one where the legs are clearly supposed to be longer and have knees and the arms not having one uniform thickness?
>>5418363
Some changes must be made for the transformation to work, and the result still looks way more accurate to the cartoon than trying to make it look like a real gorilla, so your point is moot.
Primal is just a weird character to make a Transformer of. He's already a humanoid in his alt mode, so the transformation can only do so much. I think the Cybertron Primal had the most creative transformation by switching the legs and arms, but that's about it. He can't fold up into a box shape like a lot of other Transformers.
So yeah, the original 96 figure is still pretty solid, but I wouldn't mind plopping down MP money for one with more articulation and better paint aps. You kind of have to start with Primal, the hope is they'll do more than just him in the MP line.
I really want Blackarachnia, but I'm not holding my breath.
>>5418376
>so your point is moot
>>5418440
While I agree with everyone else and want Megatron, Dinobot, and Cheetor I'd love to see some random asshole like Terrorsaur or Inferno, Blackarachnia would be amazing.
>>5418539
Terrorsaur would be amazing. He was a little bitch sometimes, but he had such an awesome design. Plus I'm bias because he was my first BW toy.
>>5418550
>>5418539
If the list of BW characters that need an MP are being decided based on how non-show-accurate their toys were, Terrorsaur is at the top of that list. His bot mode was sexy as fuck in the show, and had nothing to do with the toy. A decent MP figure of him would rock.
The problem is if you made that same list but listed it order of fan popularity, he'd probably be near the bottom.
>>5418557
Who else had really inaccurate toys? (the irony of saying that considering the toys were the basis for the characters.)
>>5418557
His MP would require a lot of crazy engineering. Especially the wings. I didn't have a problem with his toy. I love good wingspans on figures.
I think it's a toss up between him and Dinobot. His toy sacrificed the look of the beast mode for the bot mode. Lets see how they could handle that.
>>5418570
>Who else had really inaccurate toys?
Dinobot. One of the most beloved characters that seriously needs a MP redesign. The Generations figure isn't good enough.
>>5418570
Rhinox and black arachnia.
>>5418440
>>5418539
>>5418550
>>5418557
>>5418571
>>5418579
>>5418582
In all honesty, why not just MP the original 10?
in the beginning there were Four Maximals
Optimus Primal
Rhinox
Cheetor
Rattrap
Six Predacons
Megatron
Scorpinoc
Tarantuals
Waspinator
Terrorsaur
Dinobot, who later becomes a Maximal
With the number of Masterpieces out now I could see an eventual release of all original 10, with tools of Cheetor, Tarantuals, and Terrorsaur to make Tigertron, Black Arachnia, and Airazor respectively.
Only odd men out would season 2 and on, Transmetals, Fuzors, and maybe infernosince he was a shelfwarmer back in the day and kinda the old figure out as far as new creation and non retool.
>>5418606
It's not like we don't want that. We are just trying to be realistic.
>>5418606
Perhaps not in the MP class, but I'd like if they did something similiar with the initial armada guys.
>>5418606
>Airazor out of Terrorsaur
They'd need to make an entirely new toy, they don't transform the same way at all.
>>5418620
Not in the show, but if I recall correctly, I think they were the same toy.
Ok guys, do I go to Botcon and get the box set or get the mayhem squad?
>>5418647
Which set do you like better?
>>5418634
You recall incorrectly, the only transformation step they share is "remove gun from storage". they don't even hold their guns the same way. They're completely different toys.
>>5418606
Where's the love for optimal optimus?
>>5418647
Which do you prefer: characters in the wrong colours, or characters that were never part of the group or theme they're now included in?
>>5418656
Botcon:
>>> me and three friends go, none of them like TF's, just wanna take a road trip
>>> road trip
>>> 400$ box set
>>> tbhlolfam ugly red combiner only truly interested in having another combiner
>>> ravage, tarantulas (who I have no connection to so I don't care what mold he is, just happens to be my favorite mold) and ramhorn are cool
>>> 6th figure probably a legends
>>> extras which I will definitely buy
>>> 14 hour drive
>>> gas money
>>> paying for hotel
>>> 5 day trip
mayhem squad
>>> 300$
>>> ugly as fuck combiner head
>>> more colorful combiner than tripredacus
>>> better paintjobs no new head molds
basic stuff, but the botcon trip is going to be long, expensive as hell, but definitely a great time. the mayhem squad will be cool, but less satisfying. anyone have any experience at botcon? should I go? is it worth it?
>>5418686
Get mayhem. At least you get better figures.
>>5418686
>should I go? is it worth it?
Do you care about seeing panels firsthand and convention guests? If so, yes. If you can make do with internet reports on the panels and toy news, skip it and the hours waiting in lines you'd have to do. You can buy the convention toys online.
>>5418634
Nope.
>>5418659
All right my mistake. I thought they were retools of each others figures. They are some of the only on screen character figures I don't own. But after seeing some figures online, I thought they looked similar.
>>5418550
Terrorsaur really deserves a deluxe or something. Basic class worked on a little guy like rattrap, but I don't remember Terrorsaur being that small.
>>5418440
Is Cybertron Primal worth picking up? The transformation looks pretty creative the way the toy basically turns upside down when switching modes- kinda like CW Silverbolt/Superion.
>>5418296
>>5418304
>>5418299
They make me think of some kind of hypothetical Machine Wars Inferno/Grapple
>>5418686
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/wtf-tfw-transformers-podcast/584359-wtf-tfw-supplemental-35-botcon-prep-2012-a.html?highlight=prep listen to this
>>5418717
Cybertron primal is great, but his robot wrists are his downfall. There's no swivel. It really does hurt an otherwise fine figure. Megatron is the better of the two.
>>5418660
Don't forget PRIMAL PRIME
>>5418647
What's it like having shit taste?
>>5417196
>>5417198
>>5417505
The MPs always have more interesting transformations than we expect. I love it.
Mp starsaber or high quality ko of mmc's predaking?
>>5418019
He's approximately this much fun.
>>5418101
Star Saber was the prototype Brave. Victory was the last series before Takara canceled Transformers to make Brave.
>>5418137
I can't quote the prices these days but like other Anon said Land Bison is a solid set. One of my personal favourites is Goldran. Or Great Goldran if you can swing it.
>>5418768
Buy Predaking KO and tell me if it's worth it.
>>5418784
Individual bots don't have wrist swivel and razorclaws mane is fixed so no retracting it in normal bot mode other that plastic is great same with paint
>>5418768
I don't have the KO Feral Rex, but I'm going to say Star Saber. Get SoC GaoGaiGar for the alpha and omega experience.
>>5418019
He's amazing especially if you're into the Japanese G1.
>>5418035
He's actually taller than Magnus.
>>5418137
>Brave
You can get the Sonokong release for most of them and they're not KO's Takara still produces them but the company Sonokong is the one distributing them in Korea. GaoGaiGar is still fairly priced but anything before him they kinda tend to become pricey especially J-decker and Dagwon stuff.
>>5418792
I wonder how he compares, size wise, to UW Devastator... I kind of like the idea of just the two of them holding off, like, a half-dozen autobot combiners... If I can find a shelf big enough to pose it.
>>5418606
Because no one gives a shit about Terrorsaur or Scorponok.
>>5418854
That picture makes me want the Oversize Masterpiece Grimlock now, too...
C'mon tax money.
>>5418854
>Japanese G1
Did you mean all of Transformers
>>5418871
Then why is the scorponok toy always stupidly priced?
>>5418868
If you extend his legs to max he's the same size as uw/cw dev
>>5418877
Well people will bitch if I don't separate them.
>>5418894
Because he is big.
>>5418894
Because everybody loves that based sping-loaded bee.
Until the shitty clear plastic trigger brokes, that's it.
>>5418606
Blackarachnia needs to have her own mold. Both her robot and beast modes are like half the mass of Tarantulas, and I'm not talking about scale. She's thin with narrow shoulders, he's beefy with wide shoulders. We already had a repaint in 96 that tried to make BA out of Tarantulas and it was horrible.
>>5419023
That was just Mainframe being not toy accurate. Blackarachnia was intended to be large kinky spider, but instead they made a small kinky spider.
>>5419033
I think I speak for the majority of fans hoping for a MP Blackarachnia when I say the goal should be to have a show-accurate robot mode. Even the spider mode should be secondary in my opinion.
>>5419036
Then buy the Legends one.
>>5419043
I did. But it's more of a halfway step between Animated and BW BA. Also her tits sit way too low on her chest. It's the best we can get for the time being without a brand new mold, but an MP version would be perfect.
>>5419055
What about an MP Arcee?
Arcee is way more relevant than Blackarachnia.
>>5419062
Arcee was token generic Female useless character.
BA actually had personality.
>>5419062
>>5419084
Seriously though, Arcee is known for basically just being a mom.
>>5418792
Does the plastic feel on-par with official TFs? I can stomach the simplification in some areas. People are already figuring out how to mod the lion mane and stuff.
I'm just holding out in case the company makes a v2 like with their hercules that fixes the giant heads and simplified combiner hands.
>>5418894
Allegedly there's like one guy who bought a shitload of them back in the day to form artificial scarcity for them (not to mention he also never got reissued in bw 10th and such). He's supposedly slowly letting them out into circulation to keep the prices up.
Keyword here is allegedly though.
>>5418970
underrated post
>>5419062
True, but we're specifically talking about what Beast Wars MPs we'd like them to make since the assumption is the selection will be far more limited than G1 characters.
MP Arcee is a foregone conclusion unless the MP line ends.
>>5419096
Plastic is on par with sonokong brave toys which if you have owned one is very durable
>>5419055
>Also her tits sit way too low on her chest
Did you slide her tits all the way up Anon? Lots of people miss you can slide her chest up, to the point like every reviewer of her missed the chest slide and many people didn't realize it was there for over a week.
>>5419305
Though to be honest, the boob section sags down due to some disassembly.
>>5419305
They seem like they're pushed up all the way. They're resting flush against her spider eyes and the joints holding them are just balljoints. It leaves an unsightly gap below her neck and if you line her neck up with her spin (ie, keep her head up), her tits are at a weird angle.
>>5419322
I'm not sure how this picture was taken, though. That looks way better.
>>5419326
Holy shit, disregard this. There's a joint hiding in her assembly that I didn't know about. Thank you anon!
I still want an MP Blackarachnia, though.
>>5419330
It's some sliding joint that includes her spider eyes. I literally just pushed with my thumbs and it clicked up into the right position, which greatly reduced the chest gap and made her tits rest in more or less the right place.
>>5419062
I really want an MP Arcee. I think having her, Hot Rod and Magnus makes a good sample of the '86 cast.
>>5419341
>>5419330
Here's what I'm talking about.
>>5419305
It was really easy to spot people that didn't own Animated Black Arachnia.
>>5419370
I do own Animated BA but it's either been to long since I transformed her (like, what 7 years? Cut me some slack) or I never knew how to properly transform her. Either way she's in storage at the moment.
>>5419358
push the titty
>>5419322
nice idea painting the lower chest plate black, I think I'll do that
If I painted the back of her titties gold, would that eliminate some of the transulcent-ness? I dont wanna mess up the spider web design on the front
>>5419370
Her chest doesn't slide up anymore without serious brute force as it comes assembled.
You're forcing parts past their resistance points and scraping the hell out of the inner joint sections by forcing it up.
The original BA toy came assembled differently which is why it never had the issue to begin with.
I've done the "fix" on mine, works great now
What are some cool KOs of transforming toys out there? Doesn't even have to be transformers franchise. I was looking at that dino combiner though I heard even the official one has issues.
