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>Recent Releases
Great Scarrier Reef: Frankie, Lagoona, Toralei
Great Scarrier Reef new characters: Posea Reef, Kala Mer'ii, Peri and Pearl Serpentine
Ghouls Getaway: Jinafire, Spectra, Meowlody, Elissabat, Jane Boolittle
Monster Exchange: Isi Dawndancer, Kjersti Trollson, Batsy Claro
Scary Tales Re-release: Frankie, Draculaura, Clawdeen
17 Inch dolls: Frankie, Draculaura, Clawdeen, Elissabat
Love's Not Dead 2-Pack: Ghoulia and Slow Moe
Boo York: Nefera, Catty, Draculaura, Clawdeen, Operetta, Cleo and Deuce 2-pack
Boo York new characters: Elle Eedee, Mouscedes King, Luna Mothews, Astranova w/playset
City Ghouls 3-pack: Mouscedes, Luna, Elle
Out-Of-Tombers 3-Pack: Draculaura, Clawdeen, Exclusive Catty
>New 2016
Great Scarrier Reef: Draculaura, Clawdeen
New look signature characters: Frankie, Draculaura, Clawdeen, Cleo
Welcome to Monster High (Fall movie line): Frankie, Clawdeen, Lagoona, Cleo, Draculaura, Moanica, Ari Hauntington.
Shriekwrecked: Rochelle, Draculaura, Clawdeen, Lagoona, Dana Jones
>News
Great Scarrier Reef movie out in March: https://youtu.be/ULh0JJku2nE
Monster High receiving a refresh/reboot in 2016. Characters have new, expressive faces.
i still can't believe they're going to basically kill their own lines with these shitty reboots because they lost the disney princess line.
>>5363554
RIP Monster High. G1 will always be the best. Remember that from here on out.
>>5363863
Well, even if that's true, 5 years is a pretty good run for a fashion doll line.
>>5363863
>G1 will always be the best.
First transformers, then Bionicle, now Monster High.
I think MLP is the only re-launch that's been superior to the first version.
>>5364004
>I think MLP is the only re-launch that's been superior to the first version.
I was at Target yesterday and I'm surprised that I found the Birthday Bash Cedar, however, she very much smells like an old school Strawberry Shortcake doll, and I'm not so sure how I feel about that despite how pretty she is.
However, my big find that I nabbed amongst the wreckage was a Courtly Jester.
Leaks from the survey are starting to come in.
Here's the Welcome to Monster High line.
Lagoona's set - her back pack shell is nice.
ShriekWrecked line
Basic Draculaura, Frankie and Ari.
Lagoona and Cleo with new pets.
Clawdeen with locker and Lagoona with scooter.
Frankie's Science lab and Voltageous hair Frankie.
Ghoul to Bat Draculaura.
And a new collection of mini figures.
The rest are pretty much basic unarticulated figures.
>>5364063
Real question, why does LaLa need 3 dolls in one line??
>>5364141
She is now the Bumblebee of the franchise.
>>5364094
>Cleo's wrappings permanently molded onto her body
>Spectra replaced with a far more bland/uninteresting ghost girl
>Cleo's awesome pet cobra replaced with a fucking cat
I am REEEEE-ing so hard right now
>>5364168
Lagoona has a pet turtle now, instead of that piranha.
>>5364094
they look so generic now
>>5364182
Aye. I want to like Pirate Wench Clawdeen and Pirate Ship Hat Rochelle, but seeing what they've done, I just don't want to give Mattel anymore of my money.
>>5364168
>>5364176
Was hoping their new 'pets' would be part of a veterinarian type deal - like they go to a pet store to help out. Never cared about the pets - but it feels awkward to destroy what they could still work with.
I like the middle Frankie set - as well as the locker with Clawdeen. I'm waiting to see how the Welcome To monster High dolls turn out though.
If only mattel decided to keep the older ghouls mature, introduce younger ghouls - or make dolls of the ghouls obviously much younger (as in they are from elementary or middle school) as in back story themes or memories.
>>5364168
I kind of like the moulded wrappings.
Clawdeen also has furry arms, which I really like, but I hate the rest of the dolls they've done for her.
Molded garbage...
>>5364168
What if Moanica isn't Ghoulia's older sister...what if she's Ghoulia's replacement?
If so then I am definitely dropping this shit.
>>5364216
Ghoulia and Spectra apparently shelf-warm like mad (I wouldn't know, I don't pay attention to either very much), so there are people predicting that these "big sister" versions are their replacements.
>>5364233
>>5363554
>expressive faces.
What the fuck it that supposed to mean? They look very bland now.
>>5364238
That kind of sums up my feelings for this whole "reboot" concept.
>>5364252
What exactly are they "rebooting" though? Is there a reason for it?
>>5364261
They lost the Disney Princess line and a massive amount of revenue to Hasbro. DP skewed to a younger audience, so they're "rebooting" to make MH less scary and more appealing to parents of younger kids.
The earlier releases of Frankie and Draculaura with no joints were tests to see if this would actually sell well with the target audience. It must have, because this revamp is clearly going forward full steam.
>>5364261
This is what i am asking - mostly cause in a lot of the stores i have gone to this Christmas season - a lot of the Monster High stuff has been picked over or bought. On sale items have definitely been taken - my toysrus was missing about 90 percent of their dolls.
EAH on the other hand had a bit left over - so have Bratz (Bratz seemed to have a 50 percent off sale going on almost all their dolls at any one time.) and that new science girl's thing.
I went the days coming up to Christmas - and i thought that things were moving smoothly - and i live in a very low income area.
Barbie always sells out - or sells out a huge portion - with MH seemingly doing just as well.
>>5364267
Ugh, that's terrible. It's like R-rated movies not being made that often anymore. Money talks.
>>5364270
It's *because* MH sells well that they're trying to expand its audience. They want to hook the younger kids in, because parents have the buying power. If they can make MH cuter and more appealing to little girls, and less scary to the parents, they have the potential to overtake the DP revenue that they lost.
It blows, but adult collectors are a drop in the ocean compared to the cash cow of younger kids.
>>5364216
>>5364233
i can unfortunately believe this. i know a lot of people who like ghoulia but more often than not, i see her picked over a lot on the shelves
>>5364270
My TRU after Christmas had their entire MH and EAH section wiped. Aside from a few giant Maddies, one School Spirit 2-pack, and some Gloom 'n Bloom dolls, it was empty as fuck.
I managed to snag the Rochelle/Garrote pack at TRU For 30% off today. Mannnn this reboot got me sweating. I have so much left I want to collect and so little time before the G1 dolls start getting scalped to hell and back. Or even more than some already are.
>>5364385
Tell me about it. Living outside of the US makes it that much worse.
I've been scouring ebay and MH sales groups on FB trying to find some of the dolls I missed in the past, and between shipping and the exchange rate, it's really just not even worth it. $50 per doll is insane.
And it sucks, because it's just going to get worse with this reboot.
>>5364389
I'm so mad I didn't start collecting until 13 Wishes, because I neeeeed a Clawd and all of the packs he's been in are 40$+, and even his Scarnival doll is like 35 on fucking Amazon. I even remember seeing an original Cupid in Barnes and Noble back when and talking myself out of it. Uuuuugh.
>>5364094
God I hope these are all just really, really early mockups because these are all so dang bland.
>>5364436
Generally, the dolls that make it into SwagBucks surveys are the final product. They rarely do more than minor tweaks past that point (adding paint to an accessory, or removing a pair of earrings). So, sadly, I think these are it.
>>5364442
So when will these new and improved dolls start showing up? We already have the missing joint basic pieces - ie the Lala dinner thing, Frankie and her dress making piece - as well as the cheaper budget dolls..
I thought we would have at least 6 to 8 more months of the ones we have atm
>>5364457
The survey apparently makes it sound like Shriek Wrecked will hit in Spring/Summer of 2016. They already have the "softened" faces, so it looks like maybe six months? Welcome to Monster High is slated for video release in Fall 2016, which means the dolls should start popping up in July-August, based on past movie tie-in dolls.
>>5364063
>Dolls have new faces
>Box uses photos of old style dolls
>>5364072
Why is it that Rochelle is the only one who looks embarrassed to be there?
>>5364209
>>5364094
The mystery minis look cute as fuck. They're the only new thing revealed that I might buy. Looks like Mattel is trying to cut in on the Lalaloopsy market there.
i guess the pixies are a thing now because they're going to be in Epic Winter too
Foxanne and Veronicub
Ever After High 2-in-1 Castle Playset
>>5364760
>Furries.
>>5364094
Damn, Mattel even replaced the pets with cutesy generic shit.
>>5365258
I'm not big on MH media, but didn't Cleo say she "isn't a cat person", that that's more Nefera's thing? Specifically referring to Toralei and not pets, but still...
>>5365356
It's a reboot. Everything that has happened up to this point has been erased and they are starting from scratch. Cleo now loves cats since Toralei no longer exists.
I personally think the cat suits better given that cats were supposedly treated as royalty in ancient Egypt.
>>5365525
i don't think that they are gonna erase the characters they are just gonna turn Toralei from a badass cat to a cute little friendly kitty
>>5365586
I think will erase some characters, there just way too fuckin many. We'll never see the Haunted crew ever again that's for sure.
>>5365861
I hope they erase all the great scarrier reef characters because MERMAIDS SUCK!
>>5365861
I hope the hybrids are gone.
This reboot feels weird. The transfer students just showed up, so will they still get new dolls in the form of the reboot or get wiped?
>>5365861
>no more Robecca
>no more Isi
Welp, best girls are gone, so am I.
>>5365861
aren't they still at spectra's old school though? why would we see them again?
I'm hoping they'll release some more characters once/if the reboot builds up steam. I can't see Mattel getting rid of fan favourites like Ghoulia, Abbey and Toralei
>>5365957
Like Hasbro, Mattel doesn't care about the fans, just making the dolls less scary for maximum profit.
>>5365961
Well, in Mattel's defense, they did release a collector edition for Draculaura with the real nitty gritty about her fucked up past. If they went in a route like that, I think I could live with the reboot a bit more.
>>5365969
Was that only available online?
>>5365978
It was an Amazon exclusive, yes.
>>5365980
That would definitely explain why I never saw it around here.
>>5365990
It's shown up in a few retail stores since then though.
>>5365957
It looks like Gil and Catrine are sticking around at least.
>>5366004
I want to see a better view of that Catrine. Her hair looks beautiful at least.
>>5366004
Why does Gil of all characters get so many dolls? While he's not exactly worst boy, there are definitely others I'd rather see.
>>5366113
>We never got a Johnny Spirit doll
>>5366004
>they changed Rochelle's cool ship hat
hey :(
>>5364599
Because she's a giant stone weight who is in a doll line referring to a ship that sunk.
>>5365930
>still waiting to see Isi on shelves in canada
>>5366377
I feel your pain. 'Twas weeks before I found mine. Then one weekend went to a Walmart out of my usual searching range and there she was. Have hope, anon.
>>5366375
>giant stone weight
>ship wreck
>water
They discussed in Haunted that Rochelle can't swim because she will sink to the bottom. I suppose she's fucked come the series.
>is this how they kill poor Rochelle off?
>>5366004
Gil and Lagoona are two of the worst MH characters and I wish they would both disappear. I'm sick of their emotionally abusive relationship and drama that is not suitable for a children's toy line. Plus the fact she has an Australian accent, can't stand it.
>>5364072
Why do all Rochelle dolls look like she is about to cry? Her original doll was my first MH doll and so it is special to me and it makes me sad that she always looks sad.
>>5366591
>emotionally abusive
what
>>5366659
>The on/off relationship
>Gil's parents hating Lagoona because she is the wrong type of fish/race which causes strain and thus he tries to change her and also change herself as seen in 13 Wishes to make them like her.
Among other things.
Looks like Welcome to Monster High will be in a new animation style: https://www.instagram.com/p/_53s7oLvPs/
To be honest, I kinda like it.
>>5366133
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.
>>5366952
Same here, the colors look brighter.
>>5366985
>There will never be a music class 2-pack of Johnny and Operetta with their instruments
>>5367007
But Operetta doesn't sell. Just about all her releases end up in the clearance aisle.
I suspect that Matty is going to send her down the Memory Hole with Ghoulia & Spectra.
>>5366952
Looks promising.
>>5365525
NOT MY TORALEI, my fave!
>>5367400
>Operetta doesn't sell
>clearance aisle
Looks like a great time to sweep her up then, seeing as I can't find Skelita anywhere for a reasonable price.
>>5367400
Matty???
What I'm most scared of is:
- less joints
- personalities being fucked up with the new paint
- personalities being fucked up in the new series because 'dah reboot'
- characters forgotten or REPLACED which I think is even worse
I hope it'd be so we could keep the g1 high school line and this reboot would be like jr. high school.
Why does everyone think some characters are going to get replaced??
QUESTION TIME!
In case this means the end for the first dolls, what dolls are you going to hunt down before reboot?
Either by character or specific versions.
Mine:
Purrseohone and Meowlody, any
Toralei, any except Cirque du Freak and that sports one
Catrine, as many as possible
Iris, both
Wydowna, either
Avea
Elle Edee
Clawdeen, Cirque du Freak
Howleen, first wawe
Batsy Claro
Maybe more.
>>5367810
Mattel.
I just hope they don't erase Scarah.
>>5367815
>I hope it'd be so we could keep the g1 high school line and this reboot would be like jr. high school.
But that would be a smart move and we can't have that!
>>5367930
I know right??
>>5367815
middle school monster high (monster middle school) would be moe as fuck
>>5367832
They've announced Ari, who is basically Spectra's clone, but a popstar with lighter shades of purple and a less-threatening face. At the same time, Spectra's nowhere to be seen in the leaks.
Same goes for Moanica. Everyone thought she was going to be Ghoulia's big sister, but Ghoulia isn't anywhere to be found in these new leaks. In the 2Pack for Moanica's release, she's paired with Draculaura.
It's all speculation right now, but it doesn't look good for Spectra at the very least. Ari is a smilier, less cheek-bony version of her with a built-in singing gimmick.
>>5368261
there's also a basic version of Ari which reads as her being Spectra's replacement
>>5368261
>another singer
What's with MH and singers?
>>5368261
>>5368268
Weren't people worried about the same thing when Elissabat came out or another cat girl or any character that seems vaguely the same? I feel like Ari and Spectra will have some kind of trading places story line or some kind of bull shit like that.
For Moanica, she could just be another zombie but with a cuter gimmick like Draculara where Ghoulia is more nerdy.
>>5368288
It's something people are always afraid *might* happen, but with the reboot and the skewing away from "scary" and "dark" things, it looks more possible this time. That's all.
No one knows anything for sure yet. It's all just speculation.
>>5368279
I put money on it that these two shelf warmers will never be seen again, that's why.
Here's a video from the survey, which features, MH, EAH, and Barbie's new stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKZIPJ-vqA
So Barbie is now a space ranger, those fucking talking puppies of hers are coming back, and EAH is doing yet another story about someone's fairytale parent turning evil and trying to kill everyone.
>>5368371
>implying Catty doesn't have fucking five widely-released dolls already
Casta? Yeah. Never seeing another of her again, but bitches love the catgirls. Especially catgirls with pink.
>>5368261
Wasn't Hauntington originally supposed to be Spectra's last name as well?
I speculate that the following characters will not be returning, in doll form at least:
Ghoulia
Spectra
Toralei
Purrsephone and Meowlody
Operetta
Nefera de Nile
Skelita
Jinafire
Robecca
Gigi Grant
Catty Noir
Viperine
Honey Swamp
Claudia Wolf
Caterine
Scarah Screams
Avea Trotter
Bonita
Sirena
Neighthan Rot
All fusions
Vandala
River
Porter
Kiyomi
Lorna
Marisol
Jane Bootlittle
Amanita Nightshade
Elle
Luna
Mouscedes
Astronova
Isi
Kjersty
Batsy
Casta Fierce
Gilda
Garrot
Finnegan
Headmistress
Hoodude
Wydowna
Valentine and Wisp
Iris
Manny
Posea
Kala
Peri and Pearl
Why? Because these guys have either served their purpose as one off movie characters and/or shelf warmed like fuck and are not popular or important to further the MH story. Some also do not fit the new 'Cute' MH ideology such as Operetta's scarred face, Skelita is a skeleton, Peri and Pearl have two heads and so on.
>>5368424
It was indeed
>>5368448
The new "How I BOO" logo is on the following character profiles on the site:
>Abbey
>Astranova
>Catrine
>Catty
>Clawdeen
>Cleo
>Deuce
>Draculaura
>Elle
>Frankie
>Ghoulia
>Gil
>Gooliope
>Jinafire
>Lagoona
>Luna
>Moucedes
>Nefera
>Rochelle
>Spectra
>Toralei
>Venus
It's interesting to note that some of the newest characters (GSR in particular) are not included, but the BYBY ghouls were. Some people have suggested that this may be indicating which dolls are going to be "kept" in the reboot and which are getting dumped, while other people think it's just a matter of the site not being updated all at once, and that the other profiles will eventually have the same.
>>5368688
>logo
Catchphrase. Sorry.
>>5368688
Being an MH fan has become suffering.
>>5368688
>Keeping 3 of the Werecats but no Clawd or Howleen
>None of the transfer students are there
If the BYBY crowd do end up in the reboot, I'll be pissed.
>>5368712
I'm biased towards liking the werecats myself, but would be really sad to see Howleen and Twyla go.
Still, Spectra and Ghoulia are in that list, and people also think they're getting nixed, so the How I BOO tie-in may not be relevant to who stays or goes at this point.
>>5368415
Casta seems to be a knee jerk reaction to MGA's now discontinued Bratzillaz line of witch dolls and Mattel felt the need to rush out their own.
Megabloks Ghoulia on a Mech shredder.
>>5368371
well casta was never intended to be seen again. same reason why courtly will probably never be seen again in EAH even though she goes there now.
>>5368396
>Ok, More megabloks, thats good
>A new Monster high movie and style
> A barbie drone... i wouldnt see that comming so soon
> That ever after high... Look really ballsy. and I know the Story telling will suffer what all the "Highschool for girls shows" have, but it look great, the father becomes evil, and they show you how much he loved her wife and everything, and then... wow... call me damn interested.
>>5368688
>no Skelita
Fuck this shit
>>5368688
>no Skelita
She's the doll that got me into Monster High in the first place... didn't think this would hit me that hard
>>5368688
Do you think this would affect the value for some of the original dolls? I mean, MH Cupid is fetching quite decent prices for a MH doll (the amazon exclusive dracolaura is to sale for $30, while MH Cupid is at $50 on ebay, $90 brand new at amazon), so knowing that some popular characters aren't going to be seen again with their original designs and detail (Skelita, for starters), may attract scalpers.
>>5368415
Uhmmm..Catty is the bomb.com
>>5368756
Rush out???
Bratzillas came out in 2011 to try and compete with MH, failed miserably and are still in the clearance bin at Walmart..
Casts was released in..2014??
>>5369206
LOL
>>5369173
It's not like they cost that much now. Buy an extra of a few dolls, tuck them away and wait.
I know hardly anyone likes them but it is possible the Scarrier Reef ghouls will be under produced?
>still getting "mark all the gift box" captcha
C'mon, the holidays are OVER.
Well it's totally unscientific, but the threads in /co/ also have been totally dead in the last months. I remember how in 2012-ish there were some "so how about them monster highs" threads that died within a dozen posts, then in 2013-14 there were some ongoing generals and not it's back to being dead.
And of course here in /toy/ threads only lasted a week before reaching post limit and not a month, like they have recently.
The current situation is not looking good by those measures
>>5369653
I think too much overexposure.
Too many Draculauras and so on.
The new character designs were good, but the clothing goes too much into bland direction.
>>5366591
Alright, Lagoona is insecure not abusive guys.
Dractopus and WhaleWolf are in stores now.
I'm so upset. My first doll was Dawn of the Dance Ghoulia and kept on collecting the dolls ever since.
I must have about 80 dolls by now and even though this year I haven't bought any doll cause I wasn't feeling the new lines, I was hoping they'd eventually become as cool as before again.
Also, Ghoulia and Spectra are my faves. Seeing these... possible replacements makes me sad.
>>5368712
I doubt they're gonna get rid of Draculaura's boyfriend, especially if she's going to become the main character. Plus one of Clawdeen's things is that she has a large family, so I'm sure Clawd and Howleen will stick around for some sibling related shenanigans.
>>5369869
Gil's constant waffling about their relationship while Lagoona bends over backwards to appease his parents is the emotionally abusive part.
>>5364209
the hell?
>>5369996
It's just Babby's First MH doll. There's plenty of more detailed and articulated dolls for the grown ups.
>>5368396
>Epic Winter
yeah, that's totally not a shot at Frozen at all. although i do like that Crystal's parents are the Snow King and the Snow Queen.
>>5370038
Maybe the name of the Ice Queen is Elga in this version.
I guess another thing to note is that as of GSR, Lagoona has a new VA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULh0JJku2nE
>>5370038
The parent's design looks a lot nicer than Crystal's.
>>5370108
Does she look adopted to anyone else? Her skin has a lot more of a bluish hue than either of her parents. Not to mention the hair. I wonder if they created her out of ice magic.
>>5370124
i really want to say that Mattel isn't that creative but Chase being adopted is canon so i guess anything is possible
>>5370124
The snow themed backgrounder looks more like the parents than Crystal does.
>>5370037
Not for long.
>>5370168
Maybe she was supposed to be Crystal but something changed. I find them both pretty cute.
>>5369877
>meaning mermaid Lagoona, tigerfish Torelei and electric eel Frankie aren't far behind
>SOON.jpg
Almost done.
The artwork for the Welcome to Monster High outfits has been spotted on a party mix cover.
>>5370540
>>5370540
Who'd actually buy that shit?
>>5370559
Kids?
>>5370559
Imbecilic grandmothers?
>>5369068
Just got her on sale this Christmas.
My first MH doll
>>5370848
Welcome to the fandom.
Nice choice, I hope you are pleased with her.
>>5368396
damn I want a doll of that mom.
But realistically this has to be a shot at frozen, and I can see why Disney would have instantly dropped these guys like hotcakes for it.
With this new reboot it makes me want to go back and buy all the dolls I didn't before. I stopped collecting because the line was getting far too big for me to justify buying as much anymore. but if they're getting rid of certain characters I can mark this as a definitive 'end point' Damn. I was just thinking of selling all my G1 ghouls as well...
Anywho I spotted this cutie at BigW the other day and broke my year long doll buying strike for her. So worth, she's just gorgeous, haven't liked a MH doll this much in ages. I wanna buy 2 so I can customise another...
>>5371433
>another Isi fan
Welcome.
So I picked up Kala Mer'ri yesterday, and when I was taking her top off, realized it was two pieces. The tube top, I tried out on Bloodgood because she's hard to get other stuff to fit, and it doesn't fit her bust as snug as on Kala. Surprising, since I figured Kala had the same bust size as Bloodgood/Neferia/Clawdia, but she is a skinch bigger.
Newfag here, my mom wants to buy me a Draculaura because my name is Laura. However, I don't like any design I find. Am I missing something?
any suggestion?
>>5371998
Anon, that's a really cute story.
Where are you looking for Draculaura dolls? Have you taken a look at the MH wiki to look at all the dolls they've ever made of her?
http://monsterhigh.wikia.com/wiki/Draculaura/merchandise
If not, take a look here!
How about this new Silvi Timberwolf trademark? EAH daughter of the big bad wolf, or a new werewolf for MH?
>>5372061
Most likely a new werewolf for MH. Sounds like it'll be an arctic wolf.
>>5371642
Kala has a thicker torso all around, apparently. It's why people on tumblr keep drawing her as fat
>>5372431
Good thing I keep away from there.
>>5372460
It bleeds out. It's been discussed in the general at least once that I'm aware of, and I know some friends of mine have bitched about it as well.
Regardless, yeah. She has a bigger torso than even the Big Sister body, at the regular body height/length.
I'm mostly excited that she has the torso joint, and keep hoping that that's something the reboot can't kill.
Every time I look at the trademarks filed by Mattel, I can't help but wonder what the "Sea-Mares" are/were. I keep telling myself they must've been Fright-Mares that went with Great Scarrier Reef but haven't made it to market yet. Or maybe they were something else, or another franchise entirely. Anyone know more about them?
>>5372631
There's some speculation that they're the miniature seahorse-style frightmares shown in the GSR trailer. There were three (I think?) shown in the scene where Posea summons everyone to the reef.
Sorry for shitty quality on screencap.
>>5372664
The one on the very right looks like a skeleton
>>5370175
Yes for long you dumbass.
The un-articulated ones are BUDGET dolls, go back to tumblr
>>5372664
Oh, how did I miss them in the trailer? They do fit perfectly with the name though- I wonder if they're actually making dolls of them? Or perhaps the regular Fright-Mares aren't selling well enough to justify another line? Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Thanks, friend!
>>5372664
they even look weird animated. Who is in charge of making their heads so big??
What's this about a reboot? Is Mattel trying to purposely kill Monster High? And alot of my favorites being discontinued pisses me off.
>>5373069
Yes. They lost Disney Princesses to Hasbro, now they must make MH more cutesy. Always remember G1 MH is the best.
>>5373075
Why can't they create a new doll line to be the new Disney Princess and not fuck with MH or EAH. This is disappointing and heartbreaking. It makes me want to cry that Mattel is killing my hobby.
>>5373019
I want to say that the Fright-mares and vinyl pieces were HUGE missteps, and probably a huge money sink for Mattel. EAH is putting out their 'little' friends line - which is just an excuse to give out cheap looking dolls for cheap - but they are certainly better then the Fright-mares.
>>5373079
Mattel is too scared to try a new line, they dont want to sink money into a new line when they can milk and cheaply change MH and EAH. I agree they should try a new line, one for younger audience with younger characters - like 11 to 14. We are also forgetting that Mattel is doing the super heros DC female line - and they might not want to work at building a fourth line. The DC line looks to have about the same body articulation and handling as EAH and MH - so they are producing three lines with similar body types to keep in budget.
>>5373138
Wasn't EAH created to be the Disney Princess replacement? Did they realize just how screwed up the storyline is as each fairy tale has many retellings and interpretations and many of the characters introduced may have bad ends and this is the reason they are fucking with MH and soon come after EAH with a reboot.
>>5373181
I always heard that EAH wasnt made as a replacement for the DP stuff - it was made as a competing line due to Disney not wanting to make a children of line at the time. I'm not sure if they knew they were losing the DP properties when they did it - but it caused them to lose it. I believe the Descendants line was made to compete with EAH directly though.
Dam, i just saw the EAH raven queen exclusive, waant.
So quick question, do MH heads fit onto EAH bodies?
>>5373193
I see but I heard about Mattel losing the Disney Princess line a bit before EAH debuted though. I am still disappointed that my hobby is being killed by making MH "safe". What's wrong with cute mobster girls doing cute things?
Another thing that annoys me, characters like Operetta and Peri and Pearl are actually great characters to have. There are people with scars, there are conjoined twins that share a body. Monster High was great in making characters that can relate to so many people of all walks of life. They're unique beings who are perfectly inperfect. No need to be "safe" as kids (well older children) and adults alike love them. And what of Skelita? Do they still believe she will cause girls to become anorexic? She's a freaking skeleton we're all skeletons that are covered in muscle and flesh. Are undead characters really that spooky then they shoukd gerpt rid of Draculara, Cleo, and Frankie for that matter.
>>5373292
Mattel didn't lose DP until last year. EAH debuted well before that.
Their official statement (reposted in a few articles about the subject was that they didn't pay enough attention to Disney's needs, while trying to produce EAH at the same time, and that's how they lost the line to Hasbro. They're still on good terms with Disney and producing OTHER merchandise for them, just not Disney Princess stuff.
>>5373354
I see. I wasn't sure what the true reason was. I maybe remembering things wrong.
>>5373361
Yeah. Some people in the higher ranks either resigned or were sacked last year when they lost the DP license. EAH started coming out in 2013, a few months before Frozen hit.
Apparently, even though Frozen was a huge hit, Disney felt that Mattel didn't have enough Disney Princess tie-in with the movie to promote more sales or something? That was the beginning of it. And it continued from there. Part of it is that the DP line was apparently a major pain in the ass in terms of how Disney wanted it handled (every princess has her own colour dress, none of the princesses can look at/interact with one another or it cheapens their individual story, and some other weird restrictions). Basically, Hasbro won the brand by pitching the opposite handling: let the princesses be friends, give them each their own distinct, but not-colour limited wardrobe, and produce more of the minority princesses that Mattel didn' feel would sell well.
>>5373361
Just to clarify, here are two of the articles in question. One about Disney's Descendants (which is their direct response to EAH via Hasbro) and the other is about Mattel's loss of the license:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-29/disney-summons-cruella-s-kid-to-defend-fairy-tale-toy-business
http://www.franchiseherald.com/articles/7341/20140925/disney-princesses-ditch-mattel-run-away-hasbro.htm
http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-disney-princess-hasbro/
There are a couple of others, but I'm having a hard time finding them since that second one hit. It and the comments/reactions/articles relinking to it are making finding the other articles almost impossible.
>>5373387
>other is
Sorry, others are. I'll see if I can find any of the other ones from when they made the news official, but Bloomberg kind of covers most of it.
>>5372061
The EAH daughter of the big bad wolf is Ramona Badwolf, she's in Justine's diary
>>5373243
Raven Queen exclusive ??? which one do you mean ?
>>5374294
He probably means the SDCC exclusive.
Could someone clear this up for me, is this reboot world wide? Is this for countries outside of North America? The dolls look like they could be for the Japanese market like a Barbie that had a more moe look.
>>5375088
It's for the entire brand. International distribution is getting more attention according to the press release (because distribution can be spotty world-wide), but the actual reboot will affect dolls everywhere.
>>5375088
Going to be throughout the world from what we can tell - all areas share the same basic dolls (not every area carries specific exclusives and store specific pieces )
>>5373243
I believe that if the pegs are similar inside the heads - i've seen tons of them with their heads swapped (EAH and MH swaps) on tumblr.
>>5373243
Yes they do. There are some skintone matches across the two brands, too.
>Draculaura/Elissabat and Bunny
>Briar and Howleen/Cleo
>Ginger/Cedar and Clawdeen
>Cerise/Ashlynn and Sig Nefera
What happened to promoting individuality and uniqueness? What happened what Monster High? Why change what's not broken? Are characters like the ones being discontinued really that scary? Are they so confident in MH that Mattel is going to rape it like they did with Barbie in the last 5 years?
>>5370108
I need a doll of the Snow King. Holy fuck.
>>5375670
>Why change what's not broken?
I'm sure Mattel thinks the same way, which is why they're changing it.
>>5375670
>Why change what's not broken?
See >>5375776
MH saw a dip in sales this year. The numbers aren't out yet as to how big of a dip, but it must have been significant enough that they feel a need to change it.
They also need to fill the gap that losing DP left. MH is a more appropriate choice to modify (financially) than EAH, because EAH barely makes a profit, and MH is more easily recognised.
>>5375792
Why not just make more Princess Barbies? I mean they've been shitting on Barbie for over a decade now so what's a bit more damage will do to the line as Barbie is here for eternity.
I'm reading a report from Oct 2015 and it says Barbie sales decreased by 4% and other girl brands which may include MH and EAH decreased by 20%. I don't know if a new one is coming out soon as I usually don't follow these but MH may have run it's course. It will go down with Flavors and MyScene.
>>5375824
>MH may have run it's course
Like I said earlier, it's had a pretty good run for a fashion doll.
>>5375811
Simple answer? Because it'll be around for eternity.
They didn't anticipate MH being more than a temporary placeholder on the shelves when it started. It's not something that any other manufacturer has done before in a successful fashion, and the drop in sales as noted here >>5375824 may have convinced them that the experiment is over.
But we'll see. Nothing is certain yet except for the fact that Mattel is going forward with this new rebooting. How long it lasts, how well it does, we won't know until they've launched actual product.
Why is Ghoulia being discontinued? What's bad about her? Is it because she's a reanimated corpse? Then why keep Draculara, Cleo, and Frankie?
>>5375837
Seems like only yesterday an anon posted a pic of a topless Lagoona wearing Draculaura's skirt and asked what /toy/ thought of them.
>>5376279
Let us reminisce on the good times.
Remember when Abbey out right replaced Lagoona in the core 6?
>>5376288
Abbey who?
>>5376295
Too soon Anon... Too soon... ;_;
>>5376288
>>5376295
>>5376305
>>5376308
...Four posts about Abby without the mention of Yak Cock? For shame, MHG!
>>5376320
We ain't /co/ here.
>>5376320
Why state the obvious?
>>5376329
It started in /toy/
>>5376288
Does anyone have the screencap from that MH novel? You know which one.
Talking about her, do we know why she doesn't have a boyfriend? I mean, canonically, from Mattel themselves.
>>5376419
Abbey in previous movies and webshorts has talked about Yeti traditions including matchmaking. This may be the reason for nothing official. However, it's been noted she may have feelings for Heath.
>>5368688
Turns out the whole "New slogan = staying" theory is inaccurate. There's a ghoul who isn't on this list who is getting a doll this year. No idea which one.
>>5376482
That's good to hear, at least. I figured it was a case of the site not being updated all at once, rather than any serious indicator of who was staying in the line.
I'm not usually a Barbie fan but I love the Made to Move ones.
Wonder if MH will ever get something like it.
>>5377722
The possibility is there. The Frightfully Tall Ghouls and Gooliope have the same style of joints and pivots.
Will we have more Lorna McNessie?
her face is so pretty, I love the color contrasts and her body has carved celtic motifs
>>5378295
I want to say yes, but I highly doubt it. Usually they have characters that are one time only (the ghosts, the fusions, Whisp, Kieran) but some characters from the movies (Elissabat, Gigi, Viperine, etc) are featured as actual additional characters/dolls. I think Lorna and Marisol have the same theme in that they're only really supposed to be exchange students but I guess anything is possible.
I'm just posting up progress, I'm still working on the tights for Courtly, but I need to get some clear thread. But I just switched head and hands onto a deheaded Maddie doll. They work perfectly! But just switching their bodies makes the doll look so much better all ready. Not too sure if I'll cut her hair or not, but I intend to grab an original one in the box to keep so maybe I will.
>>5364063
>Lagoona's hair is still shit.
fug
>>5364094
What the fuck happened to Draculara on the second row?
>>5370543
Those song titles tho
>>5379749
She does look a lot better. Maybe instead of cutting her hair you could try a French braid/bun?
>>5367007
The closest we'll be able to get to a Johnny Spirit is modding an Invisi Billy doll since they share the same skin tone and hair colors.
>>5364072
Rochelle and Lagoona seem to retain their original face ups since they have pretty big moe eyes to begin with,
I would want to just bring my grain of sand to this Monster High reebot.
I would understand Mattel Wanting to make Monster High more... cute, or "child friendly"
But there is really the need to erase track of the other lines?
maybe is just because they are starting from scratch, so we will see.
I mean, I could bring a diagram, but /toy/ get really piss off about it.
Hasbro and their Horses, are making products for everyone.
outside the main horses, they made a Toddler line, for the 0 to 3 years old
and they made that Highschool Horses, and they clasify that as "teenagers" line
and the adult line.
So I think they could at some point just have diferent range of ages for the dolls...
...
And i think the most important is that the Main "shorts" or "movies" or what ever they are doing... is good, because... well.... most of this "cartoon for girls in higshcool"... are not good... and that probably isnt going to change here neither....
I know you people probably are not into this version of MH.
But
I think i have not seen any of the "Individual" Megabloks characters.
They are out?
Where can I find them?
I have not seen them because i live in Tacoland?
>>5380733
They are out, and they should be out internationally. Try in your local brick and mortar store (i.e. a WalMart or similar store) and big Toy Chains like Toys 'R' Us. Good luck!
>>5380779
I have searching on Walmarts, other similar stores and even specialised toy stores.
It seems like they have just Box sets
But i guess i should take a look again.
This look like a really impresive display
If you can survive the title screen, you will start seeing the collection and they way it is display.
it seems well put togeter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnP-igvUeL4
>>5380699
I wish they'd split it into playline and collector like with Barbie at least. Collector Barbie has the more dramatic makeup and nicer clothing, but is still reasonably easy to get (unless its web exclusive or platinum or whatever)
>>5364063
>Cleo's face
jesus christ
>>5380922
> THE DUST
>>5381414
On a collection so big, how do you fight Dust?
>>5380922
>panda express in jinafire's room
>taco bell in skelita's
>>5382764
classy
>>5382764
Good to know I wasn't the only one going "What." at that. I did like how they positioned the Haunted dolls though.
>>5380922
Nothing but fucking beds....
Now if i could build stuff- i'd just build the high school instead.
If the monster high area look like this after Christmas and new year....
It is consider a failure?
>>5383400
where do you live that still has a huge MH section? My local stores have downsized from half the aisle to a section that's the width of 2 dolls, 4 dolls deep, with 2 shelves of MH dolls + a lower shelf of the figures/misc stuff.
>>5383400
my TRU and target have it cut down to one section, that looks like a gold mine
>>5383474
Different anon here, but the MH aisle in most of my local stores is basically about the same size as ever. Target's is getting bigger, with my local one devoting two endcaps to the Frightfully Tall dolls (tall boxes) and Gooliope. The EAH section is getting slowly taken over by Bratz and Descendants in TRU, Big W and Target.
Kmart seems like the only store that has shrunk their MH section recently.
Based in Sydney, Aus. Taking at least two of each major stores above into account other than TRU.
>Needed to buy scissors and rulers today
>Stopped by Dollar Tree
>Like 20 Create a Monster packs
I was sitting there examining the package for a couple of minutes. It was legit and everything and ended up actually being a dollar. Is Mattel just trying to get rid of the old look in whatever way possible?
>>5384129
>Is Mattel just trying to get rid of the old look in whatever way possible?
Storage space is a constant money drain. You have to pay rent for every cubic foot of storage space you use. Or at the very least, you can use that space to store items people might actually want.
If something isn't selling, it's better in the long run to dump them at a discount price to some dollar store and make storage their problem.
>>5384129
Show us your finds. I love the CAM girls
>>5382455
you don't. give up, it will never stop. the war is unwinnable.
>>5383400
>>5383563
>tacoland
>Not knowing about Día de reyes.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi
>In Spain, Argentina, México, Paraguay and Uruguay, there is a long tradition for having the children receive presents by the three "Reyes Magos" on the night of January 5 (Epiphany Eve) or morning of January 6.
>http://www.inside-mexico.com/ya-vienen-los-reyes-magos/
>A couple of days earlier, the children write their letters to the Wise Men, or to their favorite Rey Mago: Melchor, Gaspar, or Baltasar, asking for the presents they would like to receive.
>Hundreds of multicolored balloons, filled with helium, are sold during the season, so the little ones can attach their letters to them, and have them fly, up to the sky, carrying all their wishes with them.
So, there you go. Go back today (6 de enero), and take another photo with time stamp and tell me if the MH aisle looks the same.
Unfortunately, I will concede one point: día de reyes is a tradition on the decline. There are children who still enjoy having both, Christmas and día de reyes gifts, but for the parents is kind of expensive, and because marketing the coca-cola fat pet is gaining territory and fewer families celebrate the dia de reyes each year with gifts. Most families only eat rosca.
However, in many parts is still a very important date for toy companies, and even some chains not focused on toys, like wal mart, remain open all night so the parents can take the children to the bed, go and buy gifts and place them during the night so when the children wake up, they find them. Fuck, I remember some years ago a governmental office ran a short-lived campaign to made the parents aware the proper gifts for día de reyes are toys, not clothes or something else. Think on what a children wants, not what an adult needs.
>>5384407
Yes, dia de reyes, which was yesterday.
I doubt they are going to move much the last day.
But I could be wrong, maybe If i go today, I will see all that dolls gone.
>>5384129
Were these the fashion packs, anon? That's all I found at my Dollar Tree.
>>5384515
Maybe not all, but yeah, the day after normally looks ravaged as in Black Friday. Crazy last-minute shoppers
>>5384515
>Yes, dia de reyes, which was yesterday.
Nigga the epiphany is on the 6t, which is today. Today is the Reyes Mago day.
how do you guys buy MH?
as a guy i find really hard to buy one.
>>5385072
>go to store of choice
>see if they have a doll I want
>if they do, pick it up and go to the register
>pay for my product
Not rocket surgery.
>>5385072
You're buying for a niece. That's it.
You will never have to explain your purchases, but that's the explanation you would use.
