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We continue here.
Man i cant wait to get my UW devy. Next week.
>>5333307
Me too.
Optimus did not die in the orig movie.
What do you think happens next?
>>5333340
He doesn't get a slick upgrade and falls in battle to a bigger bad?
If those rumored Headmaster '86 Movie Deluxes are real, I hope their Headmaster partners homage their original targetmasters. Stuff like Hot Rod with Headmaster Firebolt.
>>5333340
I love how the Japanese continuity just killed Optimus again after the western cartoon bought him back. No crybaby bullshit. American kids are spoiled.
http://tformers.com/skus-appear-in-tru-pcs-for-cw-boxsets-combiner-wars-g2-menasor-and-superion-plus-victorion-platinum-planet-of-junk-set/28171/news.html
Planet of Junk?
Please be a classics junkion three-pack...
>>5333366
Fuck off weeaboo fuck!
Star Saber is jihad prime.
The japanese g1 continuity sucks ass!
>>5333373
>weaboo
>hmm, I hate Japan, Japanese media, and the people who like it, whatever website should I go to
>Normiebook? no
>instagram? Nah
>Reddit? Nope
>4chan! that's it
>>5333363
I want it, I want it now, make it happen.
>>5333366
And then they brought him back again at the end of the G1 japanese continuity.
Got my PE fists/feet in today for all my 'bots. I was kind of skeptical, but had some extra cash and figured "Fuck it, why not?".
I fucking love them. Holy shit they add a large range of poseability. Having trouble getting Menasor to hold Shockwave though, gonna try more later.
>>5333305
Your fingers were just burning to get this new thread started, weren't they?
>>5333340
>In a world where Optimus Prime never died
I can't really see anything being much different, OP unleashes the Matrix against Unicron instead of Rod, a few episodes in S3 where Rodimus is the main focus obviously wouldn't exist and instead of Rod V Galvatron it would just be OP v Galvatron.
If Prime lived everything would happen pretty much the same way.
>>5333395
I've been wondering, why the UW versions of Superion/Menasor but the CW version of Defensor?
>>5333467
I would guess its due to CW Defensor being out 6 months ago and UW Defensor not being out until next week. Also, arguably Defensor is more of a lateral change than an improvement(the UW chest is just bland.)
>>5333467
Maybe they wanted the Protectobots ASAP, and Hasbro was then the only choice.
Maybe the cost of the UW set was too much for their budget.
Maybe they never actually cared about the differences, and UW Superion and Menasor just ended up being cheaper than complete Hasbro sets.
>>5333486
>visible fists
Absolutely sickening. Preorder cancelled, money saved.
>>5333305
>Old thread is dying.
No it's no. Jesus, stick to one thread until it bumps off page 10.
>>5333395
PE didn't really think the CW Hands and Feet out all that well.
The feet having to rely on friction to hold together is a horrible idea. I seriously struggle to stop myself from just gluing the halves together.
The hands work well, but they weren't designed with other weapons in mind. You get PE's Menasor Torso upgrade? The wrists in PE's hands can't hold it upright. You got Renderform's Eliminator Rifle? Not only can the PE wrists not hold it up, the hand will fall right out of the socket.
I'm at a loss as to what to do.
>>5333491
I hope you didn't buy any of the Aerialbots then.
>>5333508
Oh, it's okay when the Aerialbots do it. Groove is supposed to be above that nonsense though.
>>5333511
The reason being...?
>>5333467
UW Superion/Menasor because they had the original team members, better/more accurate colors, AND were cheaper for me at the time than buying the CW versions. I got UW Superion for $126 with free shipping when the CW limbs alone are being scalped for $40+ each.
CW Defensor because his deco feels more accurate to my half remembered memeories, and Rook is pretty damn awesome and replaces the ultra-silly tiny ass police bike turning into a gigantic foot/shin of the original.
>>5333505
Try some future shine to tighten up the joints. It's been the magic cure-all to just about every single problem I've had with any figure thus far.
>>5333467
Cuz if you missed the boat on the wave 1 deluxes, they got scalped like mad after they stopped being sold in stores. At the prices hasbro fireflight, skydive, alpha bravo, and maybe even dragstrip, you're better off buying the UW sets. Not to mention it gives you Slingshot and Wildrider without having to pay $45 in the aftermarket.
>>5333462
Actually, the not dying part isn't that important, it's that Megatron dies instead.
>>5333517
The reason being that Takara is supposed to be above Hasbro quality or something.
Really, it's just an excuse people are throwing out elsewhere on the Internet. All of the posts about it here have just been joking.
>>5333462
Galvatron wouldn't exist because Megatron would have been dead. Soundwave wouldn't have brought him onboard Astrotrain, Starscream would have become leader, and without the Autobots in a weakened state, Unicron would just keep his distance since he wouldn't have warriors to use against the Autobots.
>>5333562
That's good then because it'll match the quality of the other figures.
Ok, with a bit of fiddling, got the PE hands to hold Shockwave. They won't hold him dead on straight though, he's at a slight angle. But there you go, you can hold him in the PE hands without chopping off Shockwave's peg. It's all about setting the fingers correctly.
>>5333551
Fair enough.
How are the UW sets anyway? I'm a britbong so I only have 4/5ths of a Superion and 1/5th of a Menasor and with wave 2 having never been released it's cheaper for me to get the UW sets now.
>>5333591
>>5333395
Man Menasor stock transformation jut looks horrible, you already have the feet, get him the torso add on.
Mr and Mrs Chop Shop and their son, Chop Jr.
How does G1 Prime's trailer plug onto vehicle mode? Is it different from the way PM Prime's does?
>>5333305
Drawfag anon here.
Anyone got toy-related TF requests?
>>5333653
There's just a peg on the back of Prime's legs that sticks out in vehicle mode and a hole on the trailer.
>>5333652
I love this image! it's nice to have collections of obscure characters you care about
>RID Chopshop toy never
>>5333642
Doesn't the crotch piece severely limit his poseability though? I'm all for articulation.
>>5333640
Given I know nothing of how much a UW set would cost you, I can't speak on it's value for you. Especially since you already own most of Superion. I didn't have anything when I started, so I opted for these since they turned out cheaper for me due to scalpers killing the CW market in the US. You might be better off just importing the missing piece of Superion than getting a whole new UW set, unless you have money to burn.
I really like the sets. They're nice, UW Superion in particular since the CW colors for Silverbolt are way off. UW Motormaster/Dragstripe are a bit uninteresting though, since it follows their original color schemes which aren't very varied compared to the CW schemes, but they still look good as representations of their originals.
>>5333669
Insect robot combiner.
>>5333340
He becomes the herald of Unicron and unicron wins.
Thats why he was assassinated.
>>5333669
How about Road Caesar?
>>5333676
Little chopshop can even peg into CW chopshop's back in alt mode. Which is kind of cool.
>>5333678
> incest robot combiner
>>5333669
And I'll color it, if you like, anon. I can put a bit more work in than I did on this one.
>>5333677
The stock configuration doesn't allow much articulation anyway, the crotch on these pictures isn't the PE tho, its a mod using energon Jetfire, whos death makes Menasor sad.
>>5333693
I have a Energon Jetfire for parts like two feet from me. Tell me your ways! :D
>>5333677
>Given I know nothing of how much a UW set would cost you,
Well the cheapest one on eBay UK is £77.99 [From HK though so it's possibly fake] and for one in the UK it's £109.99.
For the CW guys I still need, Air Raid/Slingshot, cheapest I've seen is £35 and Slingshot isn't even on eBay right now but he was about £50 when I last saw one.
I do also prefer the looks of UW Superion.
>>5333696
Take the crotch apart and cut everything inside but the bottom and the screw pipes on each corner, glue the two front parts together and then the 2 from back, you'll have a diaper easily, only con is that you'll need the screws to keep it together, just unscrew for individual bots/altmode, pros: he looks better, and can twist his waist and use the transformation joint as a ab crunch.
>>5333693
Well, anyone know how the PE kit is for him then? I probably wouldn't replace the head since I like the default one. I do like the sword extender. But I've heard the crotch part severely limits his articulation. He is pretty poseable with the stock stuff, moreso with the hands/feet, you just have to watch because he is top heavy.
So I've been working on this guy on and off for a few months now. Almost done with the cab robot! Just need to add some bicep swivels and fix up the hinge the head is on a little.
>proper elbows
When the fuck are the PE elbows being released?!
>>5333305
I keep looking at him yet I still can't figure his arms out.
Wish at least one of the 3 versions of Mixmaster had painted headcanons, though.
Wonder if there will be customs part for that.
>>5333722
Late December, last time I heard.
>>5333722
>wanting cluncky attachments instead of the genuine Takara version
why?
>>5333684
I'm used to basing characters on the animation, but then i tried keeping it /toy/ relevant by adding the back tires and sticker details
>>5333770
Bombshell is a plane which presumably can drop bombshells
Pottery
>>5333770
>didn't even bother using a Powerglide package
Wow, rude.
>>5333770
>waspinator gets blown up again and then sealed in plastic.jpg
>>5333770
What am I looking at here, a bootleg? A factory reject?
>>5333803
Nah.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toy_swapping
>>5333803
its dotm powerglide. I think it got a green repaint
Pictured: a hideous blunder.
>>5333808
>This happens so often with Transformers that the fucking TF Wiki has a page on it
Really says a lot about Transformers collectors desu
>>5333834
What the fuck is even happening? Cast-off armor?
>>5333852
I rarely see this with transformers, it's just that it's weirder since they don't really fit when you do the swap.
It's way worse, but less noticeable with action figures.
>>5333855
They're wearing each others' armor, I think.
>Planet of Junk Platinum set 736239 109.99
Sounds interesting. G1 Wreck-Gar and E-Hobby Detrius? The deluxe motorcycle Wreck-Gar, Junkyard, and Scrapheap with the later fixes and new paint apps and maybe Junkmaster?
>>5333868
>Detritus
>Roadmaster
Derp.
>>5333808
>some fans even claim that Hasbro "screwed them over" by not releasing the redecos in the first place, thereby arguing that they were just taking what they felt entitled to anyways
Just. Entitled? Really. Those thieves.
I got Arms Micron Airachnid as an X-mas present, but obviously don't want it. What do?
>>5333951
Stick it in your butt. That, or donate that lump of coal.
>>5333951
Do a bunch of mods to it to make it a decent toy
Kmart has minicons for $3.50 and legends for $7.50 fyi. Saw this in person so Idk about online.
>>5333868
Titan master Galvatron in G1 toy colors with "battle damage" Ultra Magnus. The worthless minicon is replaced by an autobot matrix.
>>5333973
Ultra Magnus cannot use the Matrix
He isn't worthy
>>5333977
The Matrix would be unopening and tooled to not fit in his hands
>>5333958
I wouldn't know what to do.
>Want a Beast Hunters Optimus Prime Sword, the really big one
>But I don't want the rest of the figure
Why did they have give such a bitching sword to 2 awful figures, and a special set that really expensive.
>>5333834
>That one that shows that Nightbird has a mouth underneath the faceplate.
Fucking dropped.
>a tiny amount of people have had Onslaught since the ass end of November
>still no Onslaught's anywhere except for a few at scalper prices of around 2x the MSRP
God damnit I just want to be able to buy a full Bruticus set already.
>>5333669
Siren domming Nightbeat
So if and when the Takara Defensor set lands, what should we expect the secondary market value for Groove to be? How badly should we expect to be raped by people selling him by himself?
>>5334031
what where?
>>5333763
The incest robot combiner was a request btw
Would a modern Road Caesar toy even work without looking really awkward proportion-wise? All he has to make new arms are gloves over Blacker's arms.
Planet of Junk Platinum set 736239 109.99
let the speculation begin.
My money's on Wreck-Gar, Junkheap, Detritus in the mix for sure.
So my Unite Warriors Motormaster broke in half for reasons unknown. The plastic that held the "mushroom peg" joint in place inside his waist looks like it's been chewed apart. My gut tells me that the weight of the top half of the combined mode stressed the plastic and then it broke when I transformed him between combined mode and truck mode. Any idea how to fix it? It's the unite warriors version so I can't replace him individually.
>>5334070
Just go to the store, buy a regular motormaster, parts swap and return it and tell the store people clearly that it was defective, to prevent them from putting it back on the shelves if they had half a brain.
>>5334070
Buy a regular motormaster and swap the waist assembly out.
>>5334049u
>>5334085
Dat ninja booty. Moar
>>5334120
Don't forget to tell them the figure you're returning was defective. You don't want it going back on shelves.
>>5334127
Of coarse, Wouldn't want that to happen to some poor kid or a fellow man child.
>>5334034
It. Was. Just. Released. Calm. The. Fuck. Down.
>>5334175
y u gotta type like that m8
>>5333770
>>5334190
>implying retail workers give a damn about things like this
>>5334190
Walmart slave here. No one cares about that shit.
>>5334178
Because you're an impatient child that needs to be talked to this way.
>>5334190
>Achewood beating up the inventor of Comic Sans all over again
I love how webcomic authors have such violent fantasies over minor shit.
>>5333384
>Star Convoy Titan will happen
Got muh Shockwave today.
Easily the best Legends mold they've made yet. Pretty much flawless.
>>5334253
Do we really want that to happen after they fucked up PM Optimus Prime?
>>5334254
When I got into collecting a month or two ago, I initially was wary of Legends figures, equating small with bad/undetailed.
I was mostly wrong so far. All the Legends stuff I've gotten so far has been pretty damn nice.
>>5334254
I'd like him more if the legs weren't so floppy on mine
>>5334268
Same. I got them confused with the old Legends class toys from Universe like Jazz and Hound. I expected mediocre bricks.
>>5334269
Futureshine that shit, man. I know I sound like a broken record, but it really works.
>>5334279
Is it okay to put some in a balljoint, move it around a little and just let it sit still assembled? I've always feared it would stick stuff together like superglue would.
>>5334282
You get an eyedropped, put one drop on the joint, move it around until you're sure it's coated all the way, then let it sit for about 24 hours.
It won't freeze a joint, it might stick a bit though the first time moving it after letting it cure for 24 hours though, but a that'll stop after a bit more movement.
>>5334294
I'll need to do that with my Classics Hound, then.
>>5334253
>>5333384
Just put the battle core head on cw Prime.
>>5334091
That's her swan mode.
>>5334085
How does wearing a surgical mask make you a ninja?
>>5334248
Just virgins acting out their male empowerment fantasies in a fantasy land where they have a set of balls in direct contrast to their actual real lives.
I felt like posting this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ItfWY3xMQ
>>5334457
I love these vids:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-aTbHsZJ9g
>huffer's laugh
Gets me every time.
Anyone else besides me waiting on the inevitable UW Bruticus? I'm gonna call it right now and say that not only will they address the issues with the existing Combaticon molds, but Blast Off will also be a space shuttle.
So I just got CW Ultra Magnus from Hasbro's website. The toy's nose is completely covered in the same blue paint as the eyes, making him look like a sad poolside lifeguard.
Should I complain to Hasbro (not looking forward to sending such a big toy back, plus I only noticed after I opened it, whoops.) or just suck it up and try to repaint the face?
Just got some new toys from the Hasbro webste, best to worst -
Rook: Dude may be a meme, but this toy is fucking fun enough to actually make me want to get five more and Battle Core Prime. For some reason, I can hear him sounding like Heavy from "Team Fortress 2"...must be the "hat."
Wildri-...um, I mean "Brake-Neck": My favorite Stunticon using the best CW Stunti-mould. Plus, lame ass exhaust pipe club held over from original Dead End version now allows Menasor to have twin Optimus smokestacks, which looks surprisingly cool.
Chop-Shop: Obscure char redeco of OK Insecticon toy. Be better if he had a fucking gun, but not bad.
First-Aid: Favorite Protectobot char done with worst CW Stunti-mould. I swapped his axe with Rook's claw thingy since it looks more like a medical tool, and what's a medic doing with a hatchet anyway? It's not the Civil War.
Buzzsaw: AVOID THIS TOY, IT IS GARBAGE. The stickers are peeling off, the only mode that looks halfway decent is the rectangular block, if this is our first look at Titan Wars, I am worried for the future.
>>5334491
You could get the Targetmaster Chop-Shop and give it to... himself.
>>5334500
Very meta. I like it!
Shame it's kind of a lame weapon mode, but giant metal shears make way more sense for someone named "Chop-Shop" than for Megatron.
>>5334504
You can also do that with the recent Waspinators.
>>5334514
Yeah, FunPub made a whole set of BotCon exclusives this year based on that idea.
>>5334491
I am going to open Buzzsaw tonight and enjoy him, just to spite you.
I actually like the idea of giving First Aid Rook's claw though. Even though for Rook I imagine it as a rescue tool to haul dudes out of combat zones when he's in vehicle mode. And in robot mode, I imagine it's a tazer. He is supposed to be search and rescue, right?
So maybe First Aid will just eventually get Roller or Impactor's claw.
>>5334491
IIRC Wasn't First Aid kind of bloodthirsty originally, before they repainted him as a generic pacifistic medic?
And yeah, Buzzsaw looks like ass. But at least it'll get a Lazerbeak repaint, to spite how bad the mold is.
>>5334546
Rook's weapon is a stun baton/robot-sized cattle prod.
And yeah, Rook is an awesome figure.
>>5334533
Enjoy him as you will, I just calls it as I sees it.
I get that with the claw, I just thought it fit First-Aid better. Maybe if I do go with the "Rook Squad" (thinking of doing a Prowl headswap on Battle Core Prime to make him into Checkpoint from "Energon"), the one with the axe will be I dunno, the individualized rebel of the group...
>>5334548
Nah, First-Aid's deal was he was compelled to fix ANYTHING, be it robot, car, kitchen appliance, whatever...sort of a more sane version of Tailgate's old "ALL MACHINES ARE ALIVE" gimmick. The cartoon made him a pacifist, to kinda tie him into to Lifeline from G.I.Joe who had that as his gimmick.
>>5334552
>>5334548
I love Doc and Lifeline. And Ratchet and First Aid. I'm always into the medic characters, for some reason.
>>5334546
It could be that, too. The thought of Autobots rescuing humans never even crosses my mind since I am much more focused on the robits. But yeah, I think it would serve that purpose nicely, too. Seems kind of like a multi-tool, I guess.
Is Transformers Animated Swindle any good?
Love the character but I really am not digging the CW figure of him. Is the animated version a better version in terms of resembling the character and articulation and shit?
>>5334562
Yeah but he has clear plastic joints so good luck not breaking him.
>>5334559
Medics are fine, but way too many are usually the ultra-pacifist stereotype.
>>5334562
Yeah, he's a pretty great figure, armed to the fucking teeth and surprisingly on-model too.
>>5334552
Modern IDW First Aid is also obsessive-compulsive (compulsively collects any and all Autobot ID badges he can get his hands on) and a bit of a captain sensible, in the way that he killed Pharma when Ratchet refused to do the job, even after Pharma killed the only other Autobot medic on the Lost Light ship and Ratchet gave a big spiel about how, because Pharma was a psychopathic mad man, he would deem Ratchet killing him as ultimate victory, due to Pharma by that point living solely to prove Ratchet a hypocrite and fraud after Ratchet outed him and maimed his hands.
>>5334559
I just wish Ratchet was more of how he was in his bio, or better, the way he was in the early Marvel comics. I loved Animated, but the idea of a Ratchet that was more Hawkeye from M.A.S.H. (oldfag alert!) than House always appealed to me.
>>5334573
This was probably their way of getting around the "all medics are pacifists" cliche' the other guy mentioned.
>>5334575
I am 100% with you. Marvel comics Ratchet is my favorite TF character. I always like to imagine Ratchet as Dr. Leonard McCoy that drinks too much to compensate for the horrors of war (like his bio mentions, he parties too much). So not quite House level, but not always the cheeriest dude. I liked him in Prime and Animated, but he wasn't ideal. I think IDW does a decent job, too.
>>5334570
I like having a Pacifist or two among all the shoot-first macho dummies. Ratchet isn't really a pacifist, though.
>>5334562
Don't bother, he WILL break on you.
>>5334330
If you have to ask, you will never get it.
>>5334591
I'm talking more about the stereotype as something present in all fiction, not just Transformers, but yeah, you're right.
>>5334575
Ratchet as written in his bio would be lame.
The Marvel and to a lesser extent IDW version, works well as he's basically Wilson from House, not House himself. He's the universe's chew toy, the abused best friend of the main character (Optimus), and constantly getting treated like shit by everyone but always being the guy who saves the day when no one else can.
Ironically, Prowl's character assassination would work far better with Ratchet in terms of character development. The idea that Ratchet would break bad because he was sick and tired of seeing Optimus not stopping the Cons dead and generally speaking, going "fuck humanity" after Spike's betrayal, would be far more interesting and compelling coming from Ratchet (a doctor who snaps at his superiors stupidity and willingness to coddle the enemy) than someone like Prowl, who was part of the Functionalist secret police and all around brown shirt scum, who hates the Decepticons because they overthrew the government and ruined the super sweet life Prowl had as a hired killer for the corrupt government.
>>5334591
Yeah, Marvel!Ratchet was the best. I loved how HE was more Megatron's arch-enemy than Optimus was...Op was just the enemy commander, Ratchet was the one who was the true opposite of Megatron who kept getting in his way. Budiansky's writing had its flaws, but this and Blaster as a burnt-out rebel finding a new reason to fight were two of the high points.
>>5334570
>Medics are fine, but way too many are usually the ultra-pacifist stereotype.
First Aid is really the only pacifist medic. And I still think the Ultimate Weapon is my favorite depiction of him.
>>5334617
I saw him more as Wheeljack's best friend, but that might be the cartoon's influence on me.
>>5334617
From the little I've read of IDW stuff (just getting into the comics a bit, mostly stuff from the toys themselves) Prowl is reading like a horrible pastiche of every "corrupt cop" archtype.
>>5334533
I imagine Rook using his claw to torture black criminals and civilians.
>>5334617
I'm just glad the similar character assassination done to Rattrap, my favorite TF character, turned out to be just him being in deep cover (ironically FOR Prowl) and not him being an actual torturing turncoat fuckwad. It even ties nicely to the Beast Wars cartoon in a way, because I always wondered what a fucking saboteur/nearly-ninja type was doing on a research and exploration vessel. The answer: trying to get away from the horrible things he did in the line of duty, to put his dark past behind him and make a new life with people who didn't know about it.
>>5334627
Prowl is mostly that guy who thinks he knows everything and the right way to do it and is insanely bitter because no one will listen to him or do what he wants (and in his defense Optimus has been kind of an idiot) and that has led him to act out in many ways that make him seem like a little kid throwing a tantrum.
>>5334617
Prowl did nothing wrong. The Decepticons going out of control essentially toppled their entire civilization and made Cybertron uninhabitable. The government may have been corrupt, but the Decepticon and Megatron's response was in the end out of proportion to what the government was doing.
>>5334598
Well I mean, I have a surgical mask right.
Can I be a ninja?
>>5334643
Yeah, this is how I see him, too. They might have gone a little too far during the Combiner Wars comic and its aftermath, and I'd have liked to see him more like how he was in the "Police Action" arc of Costa's IDW run, but it's looking like "Sins of The Wreckers" might be addressing that and, Primus willing, redeeming him a little.
>>5334650
Anon, if you believe in yourself, you can be anything. ;-)
Sing a song and your heart will never fall.
Make love, be a conscious animal.
>>5334650
Only if you... BELIEVE IT!
>>5334654
>They might have gone a little too far during the Combiner Wars comic
That was so poorly done and pieced together I try to ignore any "off" character development from it cause it was such a clusterfuck.
>>5334665
Point duly noted. And agreed with.
>>5334627
He is more lawful neutral and thinks everyone from Starscream, Springer, Prime and the Cons are chaotic or chaotic evil and he justifies committing amoral acts because he thinks he is more knowledgeable and everyone else is a manipulatable chump.
>>5334665
Really lold at how half-assed they introduced rook and defensor.
>>5334665
It's really too bad about CW.
If they thought more out the box like what Takara is doing with Galvatronus it might have been better or more interesting.
>>5334673
So... Walky?
>>5334681
Yeah, there was a bit of the "Here, catch! FINAL FUSION GO!" hot potato thing going on with the Enigma of Combination for a bit there.
>>5334684
In many ways: yeah kinda like him. Except people (tfs) tend to slap him down instead of sucking his cock.
>>5334681
It was definitly a "Hasbro made us do this, here they fucking are" type deal.
>>5334690
The entire deal with the Engima and the Primes crap were all Hasbro's ideas from the Binder of Revelations. They really need to move away from being weeded to that shit.
>>5334693
And Optimus nearly beat him to death while screaming about justice which was pretty funny.
>>5334700
In retrospect that perfectly explains why half the autobots would rather stay on a ship with Megatron and Rodimus than remain on their homeplanet with Prowl, Optimus and Starscream.
>>5334697
UGH...DON"T get me started on the clusterfuck that is the Aligned Continuity. The less said, the better...far as I'm concerned, the videogames are G1 and Prime and RID15 (and Rescue bots, which actually seems to have more in common with RID15 than Prime does) are their own thing.
The "Rage of The Dinobots" and "Beast Hunters" comics were good, though. Grimlock as Conan the Barbarian in the middle of "Mad Max" was at least something that felt new, and Sludge as the main char was a nice touch.
>>5334700
I hope someone nearly beats Walky to death while screaming about justice.
>>5334639
Actually there was no deep cover with Prowl. Rattrap only saved Prowl because he was playing BOTH Starscream and Prowl against each other, for his own selfish reasons of gaining power with whoever killed the other.
The closest we got to "Rattrap playing the long game" was the hint that he was from the Beast Planet, when he basically told Windblade exactlay HOW to get the beasties to side with her (IE target Cheetor and Black Arachnia and ignore Dinobot).
>>5334684
If Prowl is more snarky and pathetic, yes.
Prowl, at least, is capable.
>>5334710
It isn't any worse than comic book companies rebooting their entire universes every few years honestly. Bad as things can be, nothing will ever touch on clusterfucks like One More Day.
>>5334725
>Prowl, at least, is capable.
This is so annoying because yes, Prowl is very capable. This was mentioned elsewhere but imagine if Prowl worked for Megatron. Shit would get done and there wouldn't be a fucking four million year war.
>>5334709
To be fair, Optimus would not be IN the mess he was in, if the Lost Lights would just come home. Or were forced to come home.
Fucker surrounded himself with traitors (Arcee/Prowl/Constructicons and Skylynx, who will betray anyone if you feed him gourmet energon) and people the traitors walk all over like complete bitches (Jazz, Sideswipe, Cosmos, Jetfire).
Had he had competent people like Ratchet, Rodimus, Chromedrome, Rewind, and Ultra Magnus around him, Prowl would have been rotting in a prison cell for the Overlord shit and he'd have loyal people around him on Earth AND on Cybertron to actively combat Starscream.
>>5334731
True, but THAT pisses me off, too, LOL.
That convo's for a different section of the boards, tho'...
>>5334682
Galvatronus/Cyclons would have destroyed Cyclonus's entire arch and pissed so many people off though.
If anything, it was the ONLY thing that IDW was allowed to ignored when they were forced to write Combiner War
Next wave of Combiner Wars deluxes went up for preorder on BBTS
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS24862&mode=retail
January release date but you know the deal, adjust back a month or two to be realistic.
>>5334549
So, I actually like him.
I'm now imagining how great a heist caper with Chop Shop, Buzzsaw and Swindle could be. Swindle plans it, they use Buzzsaw for recon and his PDA mode for hacking security (and he can murder people if it comes down to it) and Chop Shop does the dirty work.
>>5334822
Forgot pic like a fuckin' dummy.
>>5334819
Hound yes, Wheeljack yes, Smokescreen maybe, Trailbreaker maybe.
I know people are gonna bitch about repaints, but the CW line is pretty damn solid, and being a new-ish collector I don't have a Hound or Wheeljack yet.
I blew out my knee 3 weeks ago and haven't really been able to open any toys. It's hard to even open boxes and carry shit to your desk when you're on crutches.
Today I can finally pretty much walk with one crutch, so I took the opportunity to open the new legends wave.
I love Shockwave and Chop Shop. I like Buzzsaw pretty well, as I mentioned >>5334825 here.
Pipes is a cool toy but a terrible Pipes. I love the mold, it just doesn't work as Pipes. Pipes was/is my fav Minibot and one of my most treasured childhood toys. Pipes needs the faceplate and no hands, just pipes. This mold doesn't even have smokestacks. And the OP body is too heroic for Pipes.
Still, I love the colors and the way this thing looks. I use Sentinel pen OP as my Legends-size Prime, and I have Huffer mistransformed so he is a boxy dork. I know we frown upon fun here, but who can I repurpose this guy as?
>>5334826
I need Hound, too. And I buy every Wheeljack. Man, Smokescreen needs some more paint. And I don't need Trailbreaker after the excellent recent one.
>>5334830
Trailbreaker/Smokescreen just don't have much, if any, nostalgia pull to me, which is why I've only got them as "maybe". Especially since I already own Prowl/Deadend/Streetwise/Wildrider. I like that mold a lot, but unlike those 4, he's not part of an iconic combiner nor does he have much nostalgia pull for me.
But Hound is the excellent Rook/Swindle mold, and he's got the nostalgia factor for me, plus Wheeljack is the Breakdown mold, and I love that one.
>>5334838
Smokescreen has a tiny bit of nostalgia for me. I honestly can''t remember if I have the classics version. I like the Dead End mold too, but I own him, Wildrider, Prowl and Streetwise. I don't give a dick about using Sky Lynx as a combiner, so Smokescreen and Trailbreaker are maybes for me, too. Depends on if I find a use for the extra limbs.
I am a sick, sick man when it comes to Wheeljack though. Even if this one kinda looks like shit I'm still buying it.
>>5334840
Yeah, Skylynx as a combiner looks decent but I certainly won't be getting him for his combiner ability, it'll be for Skylynx himself, same reason I got CW Cyclonus. And I have Sunstreaker/Prowl/Ironhide/Mirage/Offroad hanging around if I REALLY need extra limbs for anyone.
>>5334572
>surprisingly on-model too
That's because the show and toy designers worked side by side from the get go for that show.
>>5334573
>Modern IDW First Aid is also obsessive-compulsive (compulsively collects any and all Autobot ID badges he can get his hands on)
Wrong, he just inspected them because he was instructed to look for data bullets fired into Autobot badges by a Decepticon spy. Was a job, not a compulsion.
>>5334819
All of those, such easy passes.
So I'm shockwave anon, the one that had the one missing the peg.
Got my refund because the store I got him from didn't have anymore (though a pipes out of no where shown up, but I have no interest, a mouthplate would of helped), another store finally got some white primes but as it turned out they NEVER stocked legends class (3 near empty pegs for one step changers, what in the fuck are they doing) and another had full pegs...
Of the last wave, apparently that was what they were assigned.
3 stores, all disappointments, turns out my local one was the only one that had the new legends, perhaps if I'm lucky they'll have the next combaticon wave.
Just need me a swindle, a take off, and a lot of luck.
I will make black power prime with swindle and hound skates
So try to tell me something about these guys that I don't know.
As the new legends class figures are rolling in I managed to grab me a chopshop, not bad but now I want more of the bastards, some shops have the cw bombshell but I've NEVER seen the hasbro...skrapnel around, and considering the age I doubt I'll find one.
I can import the adventure ones cheaper than the hasbro skrapnel (I'm not in the US), I like the paint apps especially shrapnel's eyes being red, I know of the stickers but is there anything else to worry about?
>>5334925
Shrapnel was released as part of the Thrilling 30 version of the CHUG line that came before CW. Hence him being long gone from most stores, unless you pick up the Takara 2-Pack of him and Bombshell.
That said, the Takara Shrapnel has a god-awful huge RID style sticker on his chest, which Takara remolded so the sticker would fit. That is the only major thing you need to worry about if you are mixing and matching US and Japanese figures.
>>5334915
My stores are currently flooded with the first 84 Bot waves.
Never saw the first wave of CW deluxes in store, and never saw Motormaster until the White Prime wave.
Protectorbots appeared ONCE and ONLY ONCE. Managed to snag Red Alert but when I came back for the others, they were all gone. Never even SAW Hot Spot. Or Ultra Magnus.
Furthermore, never saw Powerglider at store. I had to mail order for Bombshell and only got Blackjack when they reissued him as part of the Groove wave of Legends.
>>5334936
>takara 2 pack
There was a 2 pack!?
I've only been aware of these guys sold individually under the adventure line.
Well if I get the whole "main" insecticons under adventure l'd live with that, chopshop could count as an underling/seperate sub faction so him being a different deco would be fine.
>>5334939
If we're talking about Australia we still have a few hotspots hanging around now with white primes trickling out, protectorbots shelf warmed until wave 4 came and they just faded away from shelves.
Plenty of stores here still have powerglide, but never saw viper apart from a pop culture store which charged the price of a deluxe for, since its cheaper than a US import I grabbed it.
But yeah never saw aerial bots, saw one breakdown and dead end and an offroad, like literally one of each then nothing until the protectobot limbs came.
Roadrage masterpiece doesn't look like she has metallic flake like tracks down...
>>5334949
It actually looks less cheap this way.
>>5334949
Dammit, still waiting on mine from AmiAmi (along with UW Devastator...shipping together for cost reasons). Which place is already shipping her?
>>5334956
Dunno but the image I posted was from a hong kong transformers facebook page, they gotten early releases of tracks and others before.
How they keep doing it boggles my mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Mgs7vUMDA
...
I wish I was a kid again.
>>5334988
>growing up
>still having an interest in toys
No one really grows up, now cuddle your teddy-tron and put on your matrix pajamas.
>>5334988
Why? So you can feel justified for fucking Braden? She was 10, you piece of shit. How fucking dare you even talk like this. Her mom treated you like family, Carl. Yeah fuck you. I'm calling you out right now.
>>5334473
Nope, you are litrully the only one waiting. Out of the 100 transfags that infest the internet, it's just you.
Wait, did Japan took the name Devastator too? I thought his official Japanese name was Buildron?
So I guess CW Wheeljack really is going to be this plain?
That would really suck, cause he would be so god damn awesome if there was just more details on him.
>>5335009
How festive, he's even wearing his Christmas sweater.
>>5335009
Damn. I mean I'm still getting him, but we shouldn't have to touch it up.
>>5335009
>paying money for the CW remakes of characters
Shiggity diggity.
>>5335015
That one isn't that great either. Yeah there's better paint apps and its a more intricate transformation, but he looks so doofy, squat, and chubby. Yeah the G1 toy was a fat gorilla, but that was a trait that shouldn't be homaged.
I'm not defending the CW version. Just saying the generations one was far from great as well.
>>5335015
>windshield blocking legs
I haven't owned that mold in a while so I don't remember, but was that really a thing or is it mistransformed in the pic?
>>5334988
I just realized how big Devy really is.
I mean, I knew they were all voyagers, and he's almost 2 feet, but his sheer size never really clicked in my mind until now.
>>5335016
I like the chubby mechanic look.
>>5335009
Just get the MP christ we're getting a reissue anyway
>>5335026
He's talking about wheeljack, you fuckwad. Not a MP Christ. everyone knows they only reissued them once and that was 3 days after they sold out the first time!
>>5335034
>he's talking about wheeljack
>not an mp
What about the reissue that's coming out in may of mp wheeljack?
Still on pre-order to me
>>5335019
Nope, it was a thing. The whole chest was on a hinge so it could move out of the way, but it only made him look fatter.
>>5335015
I just use PRID Wheeljack as G1...it's not like it has the cartoon's face anyway, plus the vehicle mode is actually based on the then-current version of his original alt-mode.
Of course, I also use Energon Downshift and the Kay-Bee redeco as him, too, based on the "genetic transfer device" from "Binaltech," because if anyone would figger out a way to powerlink with himself to make a more powerful version OF himself, it'd be Wheeljack.
>>5335057
>autism: the post
>>5335068
>Grown ups calling each other autists in threads about toys
Can anyone give advice on how to fix loose joints? It's really sad when your old figure can't even hold his gun up.
>>5335096
Depends on the joints. Have you tried floor polish?
>>5335096
Pledge future polish/clear acrylic paint between the joints.
Depends on the joints, would work on balljoints but not sure what you've got
>>5335099
clear nail polish is good too, but it's much thicker. future floor is best since it's thin enough to seep in between the pins and plastic much better
>>5335009
>release MP Wheeljack
>BAAAAWWWW XMAS SWEATER SUCKS GIMME CARTOON ACCURATE PLAIN WHEELJACK!!!!!
>release CW Wheeljack
>BAAAWWWWWW SOOO PLAIN FUCKING HASBRO BULLSHIT GIMME DETAILED WHEELJACK!!!!!!!!
It's movie dinobots bullshit all over again
Any good video review of Unite Warrior Defensor and Groove?
>>5335138
Um, felzbug if you can get past the long into and the whole puppet thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VUXYx5uBY
>>5335132
It's too plain though?
I mean, compare the pics, CW doesnt have as much gray as the cartoon, or painted windshield
I'll just paint it, no use whining like a woman
Just ordered me a Takara Arcee and generations Starscream, should be a good christmas.
>>5335132
That shit is really too fucking plain though.
Just giving him black forearms would have worked wonders.
>>5335138
Long and short text review coming up!
>pros
>based deluxe Groove
>cons
>awful, awful visible hand syndrome
Save money, support the brand, buy Hasbro.
>>5335143
Well, he said a good review, but I guess that covers all bases.
Why can't the funny and informative guys be popular?
>>5335150
Is Hasbro-posting the soon to be, hot new meme?
>>5335144
Its good that you can accept the toy for what it is and just fix it yourself but a common argument for this would be the fact you're basically apologizing for the company and taking your own time and money to fix what should of been perfect out of the box, now pulling a few screws out and making adjustments or using a little force to fix I can understand, but even if you already had a paint brush and paint it is something you...shouldn't have to do.
Modding a toy and fixing an imperfect product are 2 different things.
>>5335152
Well it works, and it was the only one I could find without using foreign languages.
Also to me its a good review, not a perfect or great one, least its not some random kid breaking shit on camera or some autist going on a tangent over paint apps the whole time
>>5335150
I actually like that Groove is in scale and can even serve as a kneecap on Rook. also, Rook is a cool tf.
>>5335143
I asked precisely so I wouldn't have tow watch that.
>>5335154
Yep, it's already all over TFW.
>>5335162
Then you may need to wait on peugh as he mentioned it during his onslaught review.
If that's no good either then you're on your own for a little while
>>5335165
I uasually like PEaugh, but his inability to get the knees of onslaught right is kind of a mistake you can not ignore. It has been months since people have known how to transform Hot Spot's knees correctly and he still can't figure it out. wtf?
>>5335168
I take it like an intelligent person he keeps away from other fans knowing most of what is said is a pile of shit to the point where he misses all the good stuff.
That also included youtube comments, which are cancer
>>5335026
This. I'm so fucking tired of everything Hasbro having to fit a microscopic budget. Why fucking bother if they're not even going to try to produce an appealing product.
>>5334988
>he turns Mixmaster around in the vehicle lineup
Heh, good kid.
>>5335187
I like the sound of pretest that come when he does it.
>>5335154
>meme
Is that the beach ball android in our Star Wart line?
>>5335156
Yeah that's what I meant by covers all bases, I just wish more reviewers would just act natural, rather than act like how they think they should act.
>>5334398
>projecting
>>5335160
>caring about scale in Transformers. Ever.
>>5335233
He, I like it.
>>5335156
I see your point.
People fail to see that these toys are getting cheaper cause of necessity, not cause Hasbro's jewing us or whatever. Less people are buying toys, and prices to make them are rising. we should have expected this.
Taking that into consideration, a chill outlook is best when scouting new toys. could be worse
