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>>5267740
>>5270760
continue here.
also we have in box photos of combiner wars Onslaught and Scattershot.
>>5277321
Needs More Dakka
>>5277321
So when are these guys supposed to be coming out?
>>5277440
apparently they should ship out this month...so probably end of November/Early December.
Does anybody even want Scattershot?
>>5277493
Does anybody even want Combiner Wars?
>>5277493
Me.
>>5277501
Nope, third parties had already cured that itch.
>>5277505
they better make a combining skylynx that can seperate into two animal forms
>>5277508
They don't care about Skylynx. Get ready for some Micromasters though!
>>5277321
wow that Onslaught actually looks really good.
>3rd partys havent jumped on the combiner wars bandwagon yet to make torsos and limbs that mix and match with Hasbros stuff
>>5277526
All the potential good essence was drained from Scattershot and given to him
>>5277558
Actually, it all went to Vicky.
>>5277555
They're probably waiting to see if Hasbro's got more plans for CW, before they get to work on new figure or torso's.
I for one, can't wait for the new PM Optimus Prime to be released, so they can start working on a new transforming cab section (let's be honest, it's going to be the same cab as Magnus, with Minimus repainted as Hi-Q).
>>5277321
Ohhh fuck yes I need muh Bruticus.
And holy shit that Scattershot looks fucking terrible what were they thinking why are they even bothering with Not-Computron.
>>5277573
>what were they thinking
"Those stupid fags will buy anything"
That's what they were thinking.
>>5277573
What bothers me about Scattershot is how they went the extra mile to give Cyclonus new stuff for jet, and combined mode, while Scattershot gets fucked over.
They could have at least made the giant canon in jet mode removable so the combiner could use it.
>>5277501
Yes. The figs are honestly pretty fucking good overall. And the gestalt bots were always some of the biggest stand outs in the show.
Their ONLY mistakes are not doing a regular Devastator, and not doing ALL the original gestalts. No fucking G1 Predaking is a goddamn insult, especially if shit like Computron/Betatron is getting made.
>>5277493
yes because Hasbro is going to be doing the Technobots.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors-121.html#post13070083
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors-141.html#post13087165
>>5277501
Yes because i remember the days Hasbro said they were never going to do Combiners and here we are having combiners at war with each other.
>>5277501
Making Groove a regular sized bike and adding Rook to the protectobots was great, I hope it actually sticks.
>>5277607
>Galvatron VS Rodimus set
Voyager sized Roddy confirmed? Since we're already getting Voyager(?) Galvatron, it'd look fucked if they don't do a similarly sized Rod.
So a local bargain place has CW devastator for $90, plus it's now at 20% off.
Is it worth it? The bit modes look like shit, but is combined mode worth about 80 after tax?
>>5277628
Main reason I can't bring myself to buy Devastator is the jankyass bot modes, how the fuck did Hasbro shit the bed so hard with arguably the most iconic combiner? For $80 I'd say it's worth some consideration, worse comes to worse if you're underwhelmed you can prolly resell it for what you paid and get your money back.
>>5277638
Turns out it's 25% off, so about 75. I'm going to get it and figure I could resell it for about that if I want.
Has UK TRU got MP starscream ? I really want to get it and I'll be in UK this week end, so I wanted to ask you guys.
>>5277628
Look, G1 kid here, grew up with brick bots so I don't give a shit that the elbows are missing on two figures. I listened to this board early on, was outraged, then I got CW Devastator as a gift and loved it. Yes, individually the Constructicons are a bit lacking, but devastator is fantastic. How often do you plan to display them individually? Probably never, right?
Came to $73.91.
Feels good man.
>>5277568
>Let's be honest, it's going to be the same cab as Magnus, with Minimus repainted as Hi-Q.
Ugh, that would suck.
>>5277645
>Probably never, right?
People need to stop using this excuse. Devastator was cool, but the Constructons as a whole were a big appeal. I love the headsculpts on these things, but it's just atrocious that they made them so large and lacking in basic articulation.
>shitty hollow limbots with garbage articulation
>literally just upscaled smaller figures, instead of large figures made to take advantage of their larger size
>final combined form is grossly out of scale with all other combiners in the line
Shiggy diggy Hastak. At least I have Hercules, who fits in perfectly.
>>5277628
>can get a $150 toy for less than the other toys it towers over
Yes, yes you should get it.
Is HftD Terradive the greatest Jetformer of all time?
>>5277673
Some of the tabs on the individual bkts are so tiny I could understand why Hasbro didn't make them deluxes.
>>5277673
>who fits in perfectly.
>perfectly
>wrong color green
>wrong head
Thats a mighty subjective use of the word "perfectly" there.
>>5277676
NO. Either Dark of the Moon Space Case or TFCC Depth Charge are the best jetformers of all time.
>>5277678
>being a g1 purist
>>5277680
Didn't you just complain about how he's taller than he should be?
>Thrilling 30 Seekers
>Starscream is like $50
>Thundercracker is around $40
>Skywarp is like $20 tops
>all the same fucking mold
What in the shit? Ok, Starscream I can fathom why people would scalp, but Thundercracker of all things? Fucking why?
>>5277711
Because people think different paint makes it a completely different toy.
>>5277711
Wait, are these the Legends class ones? Fuck I should've bought thundercracker when he was shelfwarming
>>5277719
No, these are the Deluxe cybertronian vehicle form ones.
I think it's the same with the Legends ones though.
>>5277493
I'll buy one because that 3rd Party version is beyond my price point. Unless UW Computron is secretly in the works. Then I'll hold off for that.
>>5277720
There's that much of a demand for the WFC Seekers? Wasn't Skywarp shelfwarming and sent off to Gabe's/Ollie's stores?
>>5277555
God I hope not, I'm sick of combiner bullshit.
>>5277743
Eh, otherwise nice figures that still have the ports or plugs integrated would be pretty cool. Or a whole 3rd party combiner that uses the same size ports for extra mix n match.
>>5277743
Why? They're pretty good figures. They're CHUG to keep the neckbeards happy. They've got fairly good articulation. And they have the bonus of mix & match giant robots
>>5277493
I do, already have half of the custom limbs ready, just waiting for the firefly and dragstrip body donnors for lightspeed and strafe.
>>5277555
I want some limbs for Galvatronus. Give me Scourge and three Sweeps or something. Or four Armadas.
>>5277842
At this point they could probably just remold the jets into stealth planes and pass them off as Sweeps/Scourge to go with him. I mean shit, can't be that hard.
>>5277667
>people need to stop feeling differently about things, I'm right and you're wrong
>>5277644
Any UK anon in here ?
>>5277607
>People still believe there will be technobots, when Hasbro said "There are no plans for Technobots"
>This was a few months ago
>If there would be Technobots, they would have not said that
>Betatron is intended to combine with existing molds
>>5277879
>One Devastator maters, why even make him break apart into multiple goys!
>>5277892
Tanks to Ga for TakTom then.
>>5277894
Yeah that's pretty much true, though. If you want Devastator buy the american release, if you give a shit about the individuals buy the takara. Everyone I know that bitched and moaned about the individual bots changed their mind the second they bought it. Your mileage may vary.
>>5277734
i saw a Skywarp at Burke's Outlet, but it was on a tri-lingual card. I think he was $12.
Anyone have their Takara RID voyager Grimlock yet?
whats the verdict one him?
>go to walmart
>this is the only thing left on the shelf
Every time
>>5277976
Hes pretty good, altmode still has a huge gap for the lack of belly and the paint on his face could use a second coat, some don't like his stoic expression.
>>5277673
>perfectly
>those boring TFC sculpts
>those oversized Voyagers
>that oversized combined mode
no
>>5277983
>Still toy hunting in person
Man, it's a sucker's game. I too loved the thrill of the hunt...once. Nowadays it's so bad hunting in person I just throw up my arms and order online. It's not exciting, but it saves on gas and gets the job done.
>>5277992
Nah I was there anyway. I just think it's funny that from my perspective it seems like nobody wants Armada Megatron
>>5277628
For $80 a chance to trial run owning it to see whether or not you like it first hand is a smash of a deal compared to every one else who paid twice as much.
And If you are expecting to not like it, don't tear off or cut open the tape, but peel it lightly so that you can replace it on the package, nothing is tied or taped in so you can easily return the thing looking like brand new so long as you don't fuck it up. If you've decided you want to return it after 3-4 days just tell the customer service the kid you gifted it too already had it or some other bullshit like too stupid to put it together or whatever. People in the customer service industry don't get paid enough to hassle customers over returns, customer is always right is the policy at $99 of businesses. Listen to your own opinion, not a biased reviewer that has to appease his own audience/bandwagon to be part of the "in crowd."
>>5277983
>going to walmart
well, there's your problem right there. Check TRU or Target. Is see regular Megs all the time there. Or just order off Walmart and have them ship it to the closest one for you to pick up.
>>5277992
I still like going to stores, just to see stuff.
Or used to. Since before AoE most stores TF section has been poor, this year has been shit.
Funny thing is, everything else was stocked fully.
>>5278025
>just to see stuff.
Yeah this helps, a lot of stuff looks really different in person. Plus some lines have paint issues
>>5277986
i've seen some guy used the rid minicons to plug up the belly for the altmode, perhaps thats a temporary solution?
and i do agrees his face is kinda shit
>>5278011
>99% of businesses
I'm new to TF and want to pick up my first. What are the best Starscream and Red Alert?
>>5278058
>Best Starscream
Depends on which iteration you're looking for. Probably want to go for the Masterpiece V2 Mold, MP-11. If that's too expensive for you, the upcoming Leader class figure might suit your needs.
>Best Red Alert
Definitely the Masterpiece, but, again, if that is out of your price range, the Generations figure is fairly neat, though his head isn't red. The Japanese release (known as the Henkei release) fixes this.
>>5278058
G1 or in general?
>>5278064
Armada for Red Alert if possible.
>>5277493
I already have a good Silverbolt and Cyclonus so yeah I ordered Scattershot.
>>5278092
G1 Red Alert is a fantastic toy.
How am I supposed to attach Slipstream's null rays in her altmode?
>>5278186
There's a notch on the underside of the Null Ray. Slide that notch over the small fin on her arm, then gently push in and pull up until the hook on the back of the null ray clips onto the top of her forearm.
>>5278202
But aren't they supposed to face forward in altmode?
>>5277690
nah i see his POV. he probably just got done playing devastation so he wants menasor and devastator same size to fit with his MP soundwave, seekers, and CW megatron, as well as insecticons of differing sizes
I'm assuming Onslaught is a Voyager?
>>5278025
Christ that looks like my Walmart too. Several of them.
>>5277983
>Not wanting best Megs
Alright
>>5278212
Sorry, didn't see you said Alt Mode.
It's basically the same, though: Push the notch down onto the fin on her arm. This time you want the hook at the front of her Null Ray to lock in on her forearm.
Unfortunately her null rays don't actually point straight forward in altmode. The design was a really great idea to keep from having to retool the arms to fit a weapong, but I can't help thinking she'd have been better served by a goddamn pair of 5mm ports.
Eh, even Takara's not infalable.
>>5277555
nobodys made an upgrade for leader megs shoulders or a transforming white prime cab for leader magnus ether.
>>5278225
Yes. Hes a remold/repaint of Hotspot. The cool thing about the mold is that you can give them a giant combiner fapping arm while they are still in their regular non combined mode.
>>5278259
Oh I didn't know it was a remold/repaint. I guess he's a good pickup to scale well with Motormaster and deluxes.
>>5278025
>tfw Marvel Legends is the only toyline that needs you to check the items in person but your stores only have piles of Hawkeyes and Captain Marvel
Here's to hoping they go down to 10 dollars in Christmas so I can grab the good ones.
>>5278431
I have had several issues with transformers buying online, mostly bad paint apps, next wave have 2 running changes, if you care about Bruticus chest color (first run silver to dark green) and Brawl green tone you should go check them in person.
Hmm is Leader Autismo worth it or should I just wait for another Autismo down the line? I feel like he doesn't scale very well to much. Also I kinda want the 3p kit, but I heard he has partsforming slippers.
>>5278442
Hes good, only real issue are the shoulders, the first add on ignore them completely, but there's this one coming that fixes the "half arm" look.
>>5278442
>he doesn't scale very well
He looks good with most deluxes, if you have leader seekers you should't have any issues, remember theres a leader Soundwave on the way.
>>5278446
Let me guess. The add on kit will be more expensive than the figure is.
>>5278454
That's how 3rd party works, you could always import the takara Megatron so the figure is more expensive ...if that helps.
>>5278456
Ha.
It just kind of sucks sometimes. I get why it is the way it is, but sometimes it's crazy. I have the PE hands and feet which is roughly $40 shipped and I only use the feet as just feet. Not the weapons. Yeah it adds height and ankles, but for $40?
>>5278469
Yeah, not worth it, the feet always looked way too big for me, but there is already a ko version coming so I may get them if they're cheap.
>>5278474
Oh fuck. May invest since I'm getting at least 2 more complete teams.
>>5277501
I would if they had done it right.
>>5278529
So what did they do wrong then, other than not doing every single combiner ever?
>>5278537
Probably expecting 3P quality/complexity for the price of a deluxe 10 years ago.
>>5277883
UK anon reporting;
no sign of starscream yet, but we did just spot Tryticon, the Blaster/perceptor set, and the coneheads at the bigger TRUs, so there's hope.
>>5278551
They released the most well known ones and gave extras.
>>5278553
When stated like that, you are correct, but even the way they released them was fucked.
>>5278555
Weird, yes. Not fucked up though. Some areas may have had shit luck, but not everyone. Thats not 100% hasbros fault. Also why shoot your load in one wave? It's smart to not give the whole team the first wave. Why they didn't keep up that thought process is beyond me though. I was able to get the deluxe protectobots in one short visit to wal Mart, but I know those who wanted superion had to wait which does suck, but that's marketing.
>>5278566
I'm not convinced, They still botched it.
>>5278551
They did so far, except with Defensor. He's the only one you can't get the original team for, until Takara releases a Deluxe Groove.
>>5278570
Not really. Yeah it's a lot of repaints and retools, but they also had to create molds that had 4 forms and still have decent articulation features for at least 2 of those forms. That's just the deluxes. They can't really create something new for each character. That would be stupid. These are the best official Combiner figures we've ever had. Yeah there are some past gems, but they were great for their time. I sure as hell was excited for a large articulated Defensor.
>>5278576
Technically they still gave is Groove. Just not in the way people were expecting. Rook is pretty awesome though.
>>5278233
I don't want any megatron
megatron a busta
Hobby Search has UW Menasor half off as part of their sale
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10320090
They also had Magnus cheap too but he sold out real quick
>>5278551
There's not enough in the budget to make that many new designs. There's a reason there's so many redecos in the line.
>>5278597
Shit and I just bought LG Blackarachnia...
I want it sooooo bad cause I already have the Menasor upgrades from PE and I only have that MM I got off Walmart for $20.
>>5278613
I don't care. Hopefully they'll do a combiner wars 2 to get the rest of them out there, then we can get two waves of the 1985 autobots!
>>5278597
>http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10320090
Damn that's pretty good, although I recently bought the 3 fembots.
~$16 per and a way better looking Motormaster, although I just want Motormaster out of this set.
>>5278566
They stopped mixing teams per wave because they learned brick and mortar stores had terrible distribution due to AoE shit still shelfwarming.
>>5278058
The recent hasbro masterpiece if you want to keep cost down yet something impressive, check your TRU/toys R us.
The Japanese/Asia re-release is mp-11 an comes with better qc, cape and crown, the hasbro one (box says mp07, they use a different numbering system outside of japan) with some iffy bits here and there (I had to reassemble one of the hands and have to force apart the chest to transform him), this is the best for a large scale starscream in g1 flavor that is also recent.
If you want something smaller you'll be paying a bit too much for it regardless of the size and price, but I do have a sot spot for the deluxe scale, specifically the movie starscream f22 (though the jp release is cleaner) or pic related, universe starscream, there are triple packs with all 3 of the guys in one box set on ebay if you got the cash for the best g1 look, otherwise the classics/universe (universe pictured) or the henkei henkei japanese release (more gray than the classics pictured but has spiffy chrome missile launchers) could also work.
Similar for red alert as well, the masterpiece and universe red alert deluxe, I do admit I'm bias towards mp and universe but they don't have many lines that work for pure g1 aesthetics, otherwise you may need to hope other anons can give good input with other lines.
What's this I'm hearing about Takara's Blackarachnia being misassembled?
>>5278597
Fuck ok is their shipping any good compared to hlj and amiami?
I need that ugly troll in my life
>>5278597
>>5278712
Never mind its fucking sold out
>>5278711
You can slide the chest up further than expected, its in emgo's review apparently.
>>5278452
> Fuckhuge next to Starscream
> Scaled well
Yeah no.
This is why I wish he was a voyager.
>>5278727
But he has a voyager, and he also has g2 colored versions if that's no good
>>5278739
I like rook.
Do I think he should steal groove's place? no.
>>5278740
Groove is where the heart lies.
That's the chest fyi
>>5278744
But I like to think of groove as a masturbation arm!
>>5278740
>oversized bike with a shitty toy that's never been not laughed at, ever
>m-muh GEE WUUNNN *furious jerking*
>>5278748
I like that though, the idea of a giant motor-cycle speeding around a city is humourous. Considering this is meant to be the current version of it, yeah, it is muh geewun (minus the furious jerking).
>>5278752
He's a arm when he's feeling kinky.
>>5278727
Did you forget to read the part about leader seekers are you just sleepy?
>>5278760
Reading comprehension and photos are easily confused.
Apparently
>>5278711
>>5278714
There have been a couple of reports of BA coming with 2 left legs, mine came fine but one the parts on the legs that rotates to form beast mode legs was reaally tight "this is going to tear apart tight" i had to unscew the shin a bit for it to rotate completely, but I won't transform her again.
>>5278760
Yeah, I saw that. The problem still stands that now all the Decepticons are fuckhuge next to the Autobots.
I am also not interested in buying the same $50 mold several times.
>>5278727
He scales well with MP Scream.
>>5278710
Those 3 pack sets are well worth the money for how they look together
>>5278772
>>5278767
The cons are fewer, the size helps them, next year we will have a leader soundwave which would look better with leader Megastron and leader starscream, I have the voyager megatron and the only superior thing over the leader is the altmode, but it has the same stupid ratchets for wide stance and a weird facesculpt.
>>5278441
WTF Hasbor? First Poop brown Brawl, now green chest shield?
>>5278772
>>5278773
Here's the funny bit, I recommended that, but because as a kid I had no idea how these things were like a retard I bought the hasbro individual releases knowing full well 2 of the 6 will be out of place with the lot.
It fucking hurts, I can live with a henkei ramjet with my hasbro seekers, but I'm going to just get henkei skywarp and thundercracker with ghost starscream to give relevance to my hasbro starscream.
>>5278776
I didn't actually start collecting classics til 2013, so they were the better option, as opposed to desperately hunting 6 henkei seekers on ebay for infinite money.
You could always sell off your old seekers and get the newer ones. Hell with the money you'd have from selling hasbro skywarp and henkei ramjet, you'd still have change left from one of the sets.
>>5278775
They announced the running change for the chest with the first oficial photos of Bruticus, they are going from toy accurate to cartoon accurate, Brawl is going backwards from cartoon poop color to green toy accurate.
>>5278784
My issue would be the fact I'm attached to what I have.
>saw "acid storm"
>go autistic
>force parents to buy it
>months later
>see starscream
>same as before
>warned "that is the last transformer we'd ever buy"
>starscream became my teddy bear until my late teens
My starscream has a bit of green on him which I assume is from being stuffed too close to acidstorm in a toy box, but now that I dug him out (months ago to be honest) I do like his deco, I could clean him up later I guess...
I gunned down hasbro dirge and thrust months ago because I actually liked their deco in all honesty, I got them from mandarake and I can honestly live with miss matched coneheads because I like ramjet that much, having him stand out works.
I got mp starscream on hand so having a mini one in a similar deco is kinda meh, the current one works and a ghost one beside would prevent me from chasing up any other ghost starscreams.
And yeah I'm not touching ebay for loose/scalped bots, hell yahoo auctions has the henkei releases for $300 equivilant+ in some cases which is insanity yet mandarake its 9000yen, still much but I'm scanning for 6000-yen and lower.
I have money, and I have learnt to live with mis-matched decos, all because of these guys, well apart from hasbro skywarp which I'm not gonna bother looking for, ick.
That said my mp's will all be hasbro...if only because its cheaper than the takara seekers, damn that spiffy cape.
>>5278792
Sorta, the triple packs match them more coherently in g1 asthetics better than the henkei, while the hasbro fucks up on skywarp and ramjet.
The takara mp's would too if not for lack of silver on starscream, but the deco scheme matches for all current takara releases, acidstorm would never match sadly.
But this is just from what I've seen and my own opinion so take that with a pinch of salt.
>>5277792
They look like absolute ass, don't kid yourself. I just don't like how hollow, boxy and uninteresting they look. Not to mention they all end up being the same retooled molds. I just have Magnus and Megatron and UW Devvy on pre-order.
My favorite toys are from the ROTF and HTFD lines and the weird bayformer-esque generations toys we got following after them, like Darkmount and Skullgrin.
>>5278807
The best CW's were the first gen, and even then some like air raid haven't been remolded yet and I can't believe it.
If only because they're what all the newer ones derived from, optimus maximus is basically a retooled hasbro menasor
>>5278814
Air raid is a remold of Skydive
>>5278817
How fucking much does it have to count to be a remold?
Apart from connector pegs and bot mod legs+heads they look fairly different, and we've only seen these guys once apart from the botcon shit
I'm honestly surprised and curious
>>5278821
I meant to say arms over head but meh
>>5278821
Dark Crumplezone counts as a remold despite over half the parts being different than the original. I think it has to do with how they are manufactured instead of difference level.
>>5278821
I think the only pre-requisite is that it's based on the original mold, rather than from scratch.
I was quite surprised when I heard it myself.
Rook and Swindle is another situation like that.
I may be alone on this, but since there are running changes for both CW Onslaught and Brawl, I wouldn't mind a Swindle that was closer to a beige color (sorta like the 3rd Party FansProject version of him), as opposed to the yellowish color scheme.
>>5278828
Well christ on a stick if that's the case cw's the cheapest thing ever, and I've bought into it all along.
>>5278829
Rook and swindle I can understand, pretty much the top half for swindle has been changed but still features the top peg for roller skate action, while the botmode aside from the head has minimal changes, with hound as the retool.
THAT I can understand, but these 2 as posted are extremely minimal, I thought they just used shared parts, the entire robot mode chest sections differ greatly, unlike swindle so if those 2 posted count as remolds I'm amazed.
>>5278831
What I want to know is what prices scalpers will charge for the "rare" first run variants?
I want in.
>>5278831
>>5278833
This is what I speak of when I say beige Swindle. Just a small color edit.
>>5278833
I don't have Air-Raid (live in the uk, didn't get the wave) but does he have the same transformation as Skydive?
>>5278821
>Air Raid and Skydive
>Dead End and Streetwise
>Offroad and First Aid
>Rook and Swindle
>all of the voyagers
If there's anything that CW has revolutionized, it's taking retooling to the extreme.
>>5278844
I kind of wish they'd put that much effort into Wildrider and Slingshot.
>>5278844
>Extreme
Like this?
>>5278843
The aerial bots all transform pretty much the same way.
I'm in Australia and only ever saw one air raid, mine's the UW release.
Couldn't be happier despite fireflight being what should of been exclusive to slingshot, I know slingshot is the retool but I feel he is more fitting as a harrier
>>5278844
See offroad and first aid I get, same chest and vehicle fronts, its the cab section that breaks first air away and the head, even the same fucking weapons.
>>5278833
>while the botmode aside from the head has minimal changes
Perhaps you just haven't really noticed it because Rook, Dead End, etc don't have large noticeable features like the wings or chests on Air Raid and Skydive, but every pair of retools have featured different parts for most everything.
http://imgur.com/gallery/gXhvDao
>>5278844
>>5278855
Holy shit, ok I knew on first glance swindle was a retool on rook but holy fuck didn't realize how much of him was fucking knew yet he still carries the same general shape.
Must be fucking nostalgia that may of blinded me towards airraid and skydive, oh fuck my life has been a lie
Though one thing bothers me, airraid and skydive have different detail etchings in the rear thruster area, that may be what made me dismissed it.
>>5278849
Nah, if it was extreme the components would be an Osprey, and Apache, a LeMans racer, an Eclipse, a tanker fire truck, and a superbike.
>>5278845
Would that even be possible? The way the figures have been produced, it seems that each mold only gets two tooling variants. Wildrider would only have the Streetwise tooling as a second option.
I guess Slingshot could have gotten a new mold, since Firefly doesn't have a moldmate.
How can we do a new pretender toy that doesn't end up just being a small bot inside a plastic shell that's easily discarded?
Spring loaded articulated shells?
Maybe a sub line of blind bags for mini robots that aren't anyone we really know?
Or should pretenders just die.
Or rather...what can they do that's actually new, we're getting mostly old concepts with new tech here
>>5278869
Make the pretender shell made from the backpack of altmode
New RID Mini Cons
>>5278869
Two seperate vehicles (with no robot modes) that need to combine to form a robot. Thats pretty unique, the only thing similiar I can think of is Ice-cream Skids and Mudflap and some of the micromasters, But that's two robots that need to combine to form a vehicle.
As well some new one step changers of Quillfire, Springload, and new molds of Bee and Swipe
>>5278873
Why is Slipstream Blue?
>>5278873
I wish I could get the Deployers for cheap, they just don't seem worth the price but I like the mini cons.
>>5278869
I would like them to follow the cartoon a bit, small highly articulated figures that summon the robot forms to integrate with them, something like brainmasters, but the mini fig would form/fill the chest and face of the bot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5k1npK-UQ
>>5278858
I'm wondering why they didn't just make new figure. Swindle barely uses any Rook parts.
>>5278878
A rumble-frenzy joke.
>>5278869
I love how Prime Wars has been mainly old concepts with new tech. It's fun to get new versions of combiners and headmasters, and it's kinda exciting to know that there's still another big gimmick just around the corner.
>>5278875
Aw man, new Duocons would be great. The year's gimmick could be about switching top and bottom halves.
>>5278869
I thought about it and came up with this.
Legend size figures that you have to detach a few pieces so they'd fit inside the Pretender.
The extra pieces form weapons or armor.
>>5278881
You know, we know that mold was created for Swindle, Rook was just a sideproduct to milk it.
>>5278885
Would they all have compound names so they would have mixmatch combined form names like StormWrench, DivePool, JackKnife, RoadSpanner, LoaderDoze, etc?
>>5278895
Springload is on my want list as well. I've really enjoying a lot of these RID One Step Changers because of all the different ways to convert a character in one step without relying on a spring loaded button
>>5278885
Aw man, for some reason I thought they had a single weird altmode. Like you said, it could be that each vehicle has seperate modes for the top and bottom and they can combine with anyone, the problem is, how do you sell it? both purpose wise and physically? doublepacks?
I really can't of something totally new they could do, It'd have to be something really silly.
>>5278900
So... Transformers Energon 2.0?
>>5278869
Just let stupid ideas die.
>>5278881
It costs money to design transformation schemes.
>>5278904
How can we tell what your opinion of 'stupid' is for it to die?
>>5278869
Beast Wars
>>5278902
I guess it's somewhat similiar, lets think of it as "the good edition"
>>5278897
Yeah, why the hell not? I wanna see the /tfg/ where people post their JackOff and BlastLoad figures.
>>5278885
Honestly, Duocons could work if you just turned them into triple changers.
They already used the Springer mold for Battletrap, and the IDW's Flywheels was a triplechanger, and looked a lot like the new Blitzwing toy (the comic came before the toy was released).
>>5278911
We've done that, "new" beast wars would still be an old concept given new tech.
I personally wouldn't mind something akin to amiiibo or skylanders...well better than the RiD shit at least
>>5278938
Statues?
>>5278869
I'd suggest ditching the shells altogether and integrating elements of the shell designs into the robots, a bit like how Thunderwing and Bludgeon did it.
So for example:
Skullgrin: Transforms from a horned, skull-headed Minotaur robot into a tank seemingly made out of flesh, bone and weapons.
Submarauder: Transforms from a chitinous, crustaceanoid robot into a horseshoe crab.
Thunderwing: The same as his current toy but bigger.
>>5278946
Ah scrap, forget it, I honestly just realied what the fucking point of the RiD stickers were for and unlike amiibo or skylanders its shitty.
I wonder how that new lego one works out.
And no, not statues...though some nicely done SD stlye ones that had some non-hasbro quality to them would be nifty.
>>5278948
...biomechanical vehicle-formers!?
That's a metal sounding idea, I'd love to see that
>>5278952
>...biomechanical vehicle-formers!?
Pretty much. In an ideal world they'd do it with Beast Wars level sculpting/paintwork (so minute sculpted asymmetrical detail, metallic paintwork and airbrushing out the wazoo). Of course it'd never happen with today's Hasbro so our best hope is that MakeToys or someone is reading this thread.
>>5278948
We already got Skullgrin though...
I kind of hope they don't do Pretenders.
The way they have done it (the way you mentioned) is the best solution and its been done with some of the more interesting characters.
The Autobot Pretenders with their human face crap would just end up trash and goofy.
>>5278948
>Thunderwing: The same as his current toy but bigger.
Just let them make IDW Thunderwing, with a Black Shadow retool.
>>5278952
Nah man, don't give up on your idea. So what you mean is figures for a transformers game? That could work, each one could play differently.. yeah I like that idea, that's what those stupid RID stickers should be for. I don't often like those "toys to life" things, feels like a rip-off, but a articulated figure that unlocks a character in a game? sign me up.
>>5278957
Indeed, but he lacks that monstrous, technorganic look that I'd like to see. That said, seeing as my dream Pretender update line is never happening in a million years I do kinda want to get that figure. He looks cool.
>>5278881
>>5278908
What he said. You're dealing with quadruple changers who have to have an alt mode, a robot mode, and two different limb modes, and each limb mode HAS to fit very specific criteria for length and shape in order to keep scramble city style interchangability.
The reason for the line's use of remolds is that there are only so many ways they can come up with to make the gimmick work in a deluxe who's torso bulk has to be a very solid chunk of plastic with a large ratched combiner nipple clamped in the middle of it.
Spending money on the extensive reshelling of bots like Dead End/Streetwise and Rook/Swindle who's transformation works and they know it feels much more worthwhile than coming up with a new way to make the legs flip around, especially if they still have to spend money on new molds anyway to make it.
>>5278963
Fuck made a fuck huge post but lost it.
My basic idea was what RiD had already done, but with better quality transformers, that used something not too obtrisive that isn't a shitty sticker, in a PROPER game that wouldn't require buying transformers "just to play" (maybe a special colored optimus prime pack in).
What I seen from RiD's is a game designed for ADHD kids who bugged their folks into buying the latest ishits who have 0 attention span, I hate that gen.
Stylized statues would be nifty, but transformers with some decent quality to them would be better, I feel like I could crush this gold armor warrior class grimlock with my hand alone here
>>5277983
I kind of want him. I liked a lot of the Decepticon designs from Armada. I'd love to see a return of a few more. I'm rather hesitant at the price tag.
>>5278986
Just wait a bit. If any of the leaders go on sale it'll be him. He was like $33 last I saw on Amazon.
>>5278977
Take something like the new Devestation game, but make the DLC be branded bots.
Legends and/or Legions class figures with little bases with thier name and faction on it with the unlock chip inside. When the base is put into the reader it unlocks the figure AND thier unique weapons.
Most figures would just be reskins (kind of like how Devestation has a balanced one, a fast one, a techy one, etc) that give you new appearance options, but unlocking new unique weapons or items which give new attack patterns or abilities in game would be the main draw.
if you buy a set of certain figures(maybe all of thier based together would form a diorama when plugged in) it would unlock additional features ingame, like new stages or challenges.
Just a thought.
The reason the RID stickers suck so much is because they're big, ugly and obtrusive, especially on legion class toys, for some crap web content that will probably no longer be accessible 2 years from now.
>>5278992
That'd actually be pretty cool. I'd buy up for that.
Speaking of which I should really get Devastation.
>>5277676
one of my favourites for sure. I thought figures like him, Tomahawk, Hailstorm and Breacher were epic figures from HFTD. I'm personally considering putting them in my classics collection at some point. currently they are on a shelf full of offscreen movie toys.
>>5277678
agreed. I honestly think 3rd party toys stick out like sore thumbs and look way too over-designed.
>>5277892
A good friend of mine said it best, Hasbro likes being dicks to the fans. I mean the hint they gave about Betatron seemed so obvious that it was gonna happen eventually.
>>5278058
G1, Armada or Cybertron?
>>5278092
What are you smoking? Both Red Alerts were great in Cybertron.
>>5278452
I love how that scene is the most impractical thing ever.
>>5278989
I'm one of the few who enjoys the physical hunt. Target in Duluth had him and fucking Whirl around $35. I saw Ultra Magnus for $50 but don't feel like having a third Magnus. RiD God Magnus and FoC Magnus are enough plus for $30 more of that price I could buy that upgrade kit to make FoC Magnus big and beefy.
>>5278999
Again. We know you like the attention, but even when you go anon we know it's you because you have the urge to post an eye catching image every time you post.
You. Don't. Have. To. Do. That.
It's annoying.
>>5279002
That add on kit is $80 though and I haven't heard a good thing about it.
>>5279003
>eye catching
Not him but that clearly isn't eye catching enough.
God what such an anal thing to even think
>>5279003
>don't post images on my imageboard
>>5277983
I like him more than normal Megs, but he's nothing close to what I want in Armada Megatron.
>>5278999
>the most impractical thing ever.
And yet we saw that happen several times in the g1 cartoon.
Well, I just got a box of transformers from Mandarake that shipped out over two months ago and everyone involved was pretty much sure had been thrown in the ocean to fend off sharks on it's maiden voyage.
Hooray me, I guess.
Man, fuck SAL, I gotta stop being a cheap bastard.
>>5279016
I know but still.
>>5279012
I really want a Megazarak repaint from that mold.
>>5279018
Mind posting what you got, and whether or not they're still in playable condition?
>>5279006
If they had kept the original trailer idea and that $80 tag, I'd be all over it. 3rd Party upgrades are hit and miss. I bought the Microblaze upgrade for my FoC team. I love it. Price seemed high but two figure parts upgrades that would run $30 each individually, two big guns that probably would be $15 each, and a Voyager class new figure that most 3rd parties would charge $100 for? $120 was a steal. Now it fits in beautifully with my CW Defensor versus being Noodlearms McRobot from before.
>>5279021
I have dark energon scorponok as my megazarak, this add on never came out right?
>>5278885
What if it was a simpler form of the Landcross dudes or the Energon Autobots but with a less shitty connecting system?
>>5279048
Maybe? I liked the idea of the vehicles being specifically a set of legs or upper body. Make the connection points universal for that play gimmick to swap bottoms and tops. That should keep some complexity issues away that killed the Powerlinx Autobots playability. Plus kids can have easily mangled robot bodies in their battles that are repairable in a minute.
>>5278997
You should, best action game since Bayo2/MGR. Platinum makes fucking top notch action games.
>>5279011
If there's no reason to, no, don't. You're wating the image limit and causing a new thread to be made sooner.
>>5279048
The connection system itself in Energon was pretty great, is was the rest of the toys that suffered from the gimmick. There are only a few that aren't hampered in some way from it.
>>5279063
What are you on about?
>>5279028
Everything survived. The box was a little beat up, but Manda does pretty good for protecting internals.
I got the Takara Windcharger/Wipeout double pack, Transformers GO! Arcee, and Takara Superlink/Energon Command Ravage.
The Scout mold for Windcharger and Wipe Out are great. I've got a bunch of stuff still packed away till I finish renovating my display room or I'd put him up with Tailgate, but here's CW Blackjack for a side by side.
Arcee I really like too. I have the FE Arcee, so I never really felt like getting the PRiD mold, but the Beast Hunters/GO! reold has enough interesting cues to it make me want to check it out, and the Colours on this one are much better than Hasbro's deco.
Ravage was an impuse buy. I know he got an eventual US release in this colour and I could find it cheaper on ebay most likely, but having the Takara and orignal package was too good to pass up considering I got him for like $15.
>>5279059
I thought about that as a posibility... Hell, just reuse the CW combiner port(it's a pretty sturdy joint, and it would give them a waist joint without having to hinder other transformation aspects.
Heck, if you tool them right, you could make them into Powerup limbs for CW too. (Imagine a Duocon who can also become a giant blaster arm and melee claw for a CW combiner for crossline play)
>>5279073
I have to say, I'm really liking Arcee. Themold looks and feels good, and even the goofy giant weapon is nice since it can be either a double crossbow or a giant capture claw depending on how you want her to hold it.
>>5279061
The guy's Red Alert image was relevant to his post, though.
>>5279091
Not much on an image search but I found this. The connector is in the center area. Its kind of a rectangular joint with pegs that reflect on a rotation.
>>5279073
Where's Ravage?
>>5279094
Literally every thread reaches the post bump limit waaay before the image bump limit...
>>5279101
why does that pic look like he's going to blow his brains....err CPU out?
>>5279101
Yeah, that too. I don't know what's up with that image limit guy.
>>5279105
Its a peace pipe bro.
>>5279109
oh...my bad. that does explain the pipe.
>>5279109
>COPULATION
Are there any good, cheap-ish ($15-20 range) CHUG Deluxe Seekers, /toy/? Or am I just stuck waiting until they shart out some new Deluxes?
>>5279100
>>5279099
Ah. He was still in the package since I was waiting till I could dig out some other energon guys. But they're all in a tub at the very back of my storage building. Except Insecticon which I can't seem to get rid of...
If anyone wants more pics, bad as mine are anyway, I'll open him up now.
>>5279133
There's only really been the Classics Starscream mold for Deluxe-sized CHUG Seekers. The only other Seekers in the Deluxe class are the DOTM, FOC, and Prime molds, which are probably not what you want.
If you don't like the Classics mold, or find the prices on it too much for you, I suggest either waiting for the next time they make a mold, or downsizing and picking up the Legends/Commander class Seekers from T30 and CW.
>>5279135
Open him up. Your pics aren't the best quality (I suggest using an external light source instead of flash), but the resolution makes it easy to look at those photos more closely.
>>5279091
I mean you're hitting enter twice.
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You don't need to do that. It increases scrolling time and is annoying to look at. Hit enter only once.
>>5278597
It sold out so fast, I saw it when it still had stocks and I couldn't decide if I should buy it since fucking Wildrider is the same price as the whole Japanese set compared to the CW release. Well now I have to wait for HLJ to go on sale...
>>5279177
> Double spacing between paragraphs is bad.
It helps with readability.
You are probably one of those types that will type out a 500 word paragraph with to spacing or capital letters or punctuation.
You mentioned originally "this isn't school". You do realize the point of school is to learn skills that make your life easier and make you look less like an idiot right?
>>5279177
What kind of scrolling are you doing that would be slowed down by extra spaces?
If you're just reading the thread as normal, your scrolling speed would be affected by your reading speed.
If you're searching for a particular post, it's more convenient to use word search (CTRL + F).
If you want to get to one end of the page from the other, there are Top/Bottom links handy.
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On-topic, what figures are gonna be released soon?
I thought it'd only be the Bruticus wave, but now a bunch of listings have been popping up.
>>5279172
I'll try and get some transformed pics as well in a bit.
>>5278873
>Decepticon Forth
Really scraping the bottom off that name barrel, Hasbro.
>>5277555
Beelzeboss was going to make their own Slingshot when Superion was first announced, but then Hasbro made it.
>>5279167
Damn, guess I'm either shit outta luck or going to have to save up a shitton to get the Leader versions, but theres no Leader Skywarp.
Or just waiting for new molds. I've already looked at the Legends sized ones, but unfortunately, SS Legend is expensive as fuck.
>>5279061
Because these Transformers threads always run up the image limit before the bump limit, rite?
