>you have the opportunity to murder a baby you know will grow up to be evil
Is this an evil act?
>you have the opportunity by magical means to compel a woman to miscarry. If she bears the child, it will grow up to be evil.
Is this an evil act? Is it more or less evil to do it without consulting her? What if she refuses to kill the baby?
>>43606711
Yes, its evil. The question is: Is that evil worth doing?
It would be more evil to do it without consulting her, but less even than if you consulted with her and did it anyway.
>>43606711
I would say yes. The 'path of good' says to raise the child and watch over them, try to make them good. Even if it's futile, can't punish someone for something they haven't done yet.
However, if you know it's a fact you cut that fucker down the second they go to do something "evil".
Or you could go the "morals aren't black and white route" but that probably makes you evil in most alignment cases.
>>43606711
Killing the baby is justifiable but its the ''easy'' option. The more ''good'' option would be to raise the baby not to turn evil and have preparations for their elimination if needs be.
As for forcible miscarriage, that is evil if only because its forcing it on to another person whom is essentially an innocent bystander.
If she refuses, you prepare to either turn evil in the eyes of most people, and possibly yourself, or you prepare some form of contingency (murder the kid just after birth)
>>43606711
How evil is evil?
If the evil person is lawful evil and becomes a lawyer for criminals who gets them out by bending (without breaking) the law, who am I to judge
I don't know, is it alright to punish a sociopath who hasn't yet done anything wrong?
>>43606743
>>I would say yes. The 'path of good' says to raise the child and watch over them, try to make them good. Even if it's futile, can't punish someone for something they haven't done yet.
This'd be a different story if you were timetraveling back to kill an evil baby.
>>43606711
It's an evil act. However, the more important questions are 'how are you sure the baby will grow up to be evil' and 'is killing the baby the only reasonable option'.
>>43606711
Doesn't matter.
Even if it is an Evil act and I am doomed, I still saved those that person would kill. It is the correct thing to do. Sacrifice your own karma for other's survival.
>>43606711
Ever heard of the saying 'the lesser of two evils'?
Do that which leads to less evil, anon.
What is this "know it will grow up to be evil" bullshit? Knowing the future is entirely impossible. A tiny change at any point could greatly impact the future.
Maybe some day something bad is going to happen to said child, and that is what sends them down a path of evil. Then, you would merely need to prevent that event.
Maybe it's meeting a cruel mentor or teacher. Then, you simply have to prevent that meeting.
This whole concept is stupid.
If the baby pings evil it's either and outsider or something supremely magical masquerading as a human. No problem with killing it. Normal people don't emanate alignment energy
>>43607405What if you get a text from the future warning you that the baby is going to become like a second Hitler?
>>43607405
It might be a fate thing where causality will bend over backwards to make sure this kid ends up evil because the prophecy WILL be fulfilled or whatever.
>>43607460
What if I was doing it for the lulz? That sounds like something I would do.
>>43607494
Well, then you'll have to deal with the bigger of two evils.
Good luck in WW3
>>43606711
>you know will grow up to be evil
How do I know this? Does the baby lack free will? If this "baby" is in fact some sort of evil robot, then sure, kill it.
>>43607493
Then causality will just cause another baby to become super-Hitler after you killed this one.
>Needing a reason to kill kids and pregnant women other than the fun of it.
Nothin personnel,
>>43606711
Actively evil or passively evil?
>>43607617
We will just have to murder all the babies. Surely nothing will go wrong.
>>43607633
Low-fat, sugar free evil.
I hate to be the /pol/ here but without Hitler, Europe would be extremely vulnerable to communism which would definitely turn the Cold War to the USSR's advantage.
Hitler may have been evil but he fought against people who were more evil and indirectly protected the good. National socialism is far closer to capitalism than communism is to capitalism.
If the baby WILL be evil then it is a universe wherein predetermination rules and no choice you or anyone makes will matter.
If free will reigns in the universe then the baby hasn't made evil choices yet and is innocent. Killing the innocent is, traditionally, evil.
Any "orc baby, water do" scenario is really asking the question, "does any of what I do matter?" If you can answer yes to that question then you cannot kill the baby. If you can answer no to that question then it doesn't matter if you do, you won't have changed the future, only killed a baby.
