Absolutely NO surveys allowed
>>43536670
http://strawpoll.me/5952242
>>43536756
kek.
>>43536670
Alright let's start off with a topic. Any good hands / combos played tonight?
I just got through decimating my opponent with the Hydra Broodmaster.
I had Rosheen Meanderer out and six lands. Threw out a Savage Ventmaw and because I had Fires of Yavimaya (illegal in Modern but we play casually so it's accepted) he was able to attack, netting me 6 more mana which I used to bring out the Hydra Broodmaster. Ventmaw was killed when my opponent returned fire, and I let the rest of the damage through.
Next turn, 6 lands + Rosheen's tapped 4 netted me 10 mana. Spent 1 forest on the Broodmaster's ability, saved one mountain, first X was 1, second X was 7.
Here comes seven 7/7 tokens with haste. Outnumber out of fucking nowhere for 1R to deal 9 damage to target creature and open fire with an 8/8 and seven 7/7's. Good times.
>>43537088
Shiiiit... guess we've been playing it wrong. I could never figure out how to use the XXF ability.
I thought it was what level of Monstrous you want to become, and how many tokens you want.
I always read that X is the value for both the number of tokens and their power/toughness.
So I had assumed the first X and the second X could be two different values.
So, by those values... if I had 10 mana in total to spend, 4 of which must be spent on values of X...
>2 Forest
>4 Mountain
>4 X
>-1 Forest for ability
>-1 Mountain for Outnumber
>8 mana left
>4X and 4X
>So Broodmaster would become an 11/11
>4x 4/4 tokens
>Outnumber would deal Rosheen + Broodmaster + 4x tokens = 6 damage (Enough to kill)
>Open attack for 11 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 4
>37
Yup, I'd still have won. Huh, well the more you know.
>>43537157
>37
>27
Slip of the finger. My bad.
I don't understand why most Scapeshift run 4xBring To Light now. I mean, I get it: it tutors for your wincons and big spells, but it hurts the manabase A LOT ( and no need to say you already struggle to fucking get the required mana for early cryptics ), and doesn't make up for the main problem of Scapeshift, which is that it's a very slow deck. Also, the fact it's a sorcery fucks the " tutor cryptic " plan.
So I'd rather run more cantrips for consistency. Did I miss something for why I should sacrifice my manabase for an okay-tutor?
>>43538341
>I don't understand why most Scapeshift run 4xBring To Light now.
They don't? People are just testing the new 4 color version but so far the traditional RUG version has had better results.
>>43538394
http://mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=269&meta=51&f=MO
So far people seem to be satisfied with the butchered version of the deck.
>>43538341
Well what else would they fetch up for with Bring to Light?
>>43538563
Removal (Shatterstorm,Creeping corrosion,anger,pyro) or ramp. But still, not worth it at all imo.
Anyone have an Enchantress list?
NO BOGLES ALLOWED it's lame and gay
>>43536756
>YES: 15 votes
>NO: 5 votes
Lmao
>>43538341
Playing four is probably wrong. I play three, and it's been great. Against affinity you can snag a Creeping Corrosion, most creature decks have problems with Wrath of God, and you can play all of these on turn 3 or 4 off of BTL. Since you're playing four colors, you're also allowed more sideboard options.
>>43537088
I had a turn 1 razorverge into birds into turn 2 mentor of the meek and temple garden into turn 3 double loam lion and drew two cards into a turn 4 collected company double mirran crusader and draw 1 card
I won that game
Do you think it looks bad when a few cards in a deck are full art like volcanic fallout, but the rest are normal? Same for foils I guess?
I'm attending my first draft tommorow night and I had some questions about it, I'd imagine I'll need to bring sleeves for my draft deck? What do I do for basic lands? There aren't going to be enough for every one in the packs. I have a proxied deck, is it frowned upon to bring that to my locals for casual play?
>>43541793
I feel like you should have asked this in another thread, but in order:
Bring sleeves if you want
Lands are provided
It's casual, so who cares?
>>43541848
This was just one of the threads I frequent and the most active, thanks for the fast reply anon.
>>43541793
I like penny sleeves for when I draft, just in case I get something really expensive that I'd like to keep undamaged. I've also played with sleeves for so long it feels weird not have them.
Lands are provided, don't worry about that.
Proxies can depend on who you're playing against but most people aren't evil.
Also a tip when drafting, don't worry about picking cards outside of your color. You don't have to play everything you draft, you realistically only need 23-25 good cards to play. Dual color is usually the best IMO. And don't worry, a majority of decks are kinda trolly. I won a draft tournament with cards I had never seen before so don't worry about powergamers
>>43541972
I've never actually seen packs of penny sleeves at my lgs, do they sell them by you? Or do you just ask the clerk for some? (They give them to you when you buy cards)
>>43542188
>I'm literally retarded
>>43542188
wew lad
Is voice of resurgence the best two-drop GW outside of that turd dog?
>>43542344
I think it's overrated
>>43542344
Turd... dog?
>>43542396
That's what I thought the original artwork looked like
>>43542374
What would you run instead? I'm running 3 Knight of the White Orchid, 2 Qasali Pridemage and 2 Scavenging Ooze as my 2 drops, I was running between 2 and 3 Strangleroot Geists instead of the Oozes but they weren't that useful later on. I figured Voice would be decent in the late game when I have a ton of creatures out
>>43542501
No seriously what the fuck are you talking about. I don't even know what a turd dog is supposed to look like.
>>43542501
Qasali Pridemage is my cardfu. What an amazing card, but you are right it's not worth more than 2 slots but in some matches they can just win you the game.
>>43542551
I think he means tarmogoyf even though it's not GW???
>>43542551
>>43542752
yeah, I mean goyf. It's not GW but its still green. When I first saw the art, I had no idea what the fuck it was and I thought it was covered in like weird shit and so I just kinda called it turd dog because that's what it looked like
>>43542553
Yeah I thought more than 2 was excessive, I was running 4 O-ring at one point and I would finish games with like 3 of them in my hand.
>>43542843
Oh you must be 10 years old. Gotcha
>>43542843
You're not impressing anyone by calling Tarmogoyf "turd dog".
>tfw can't find foil Skred
>>43544000
They only cost $3. How are you having a hard time finding them?
>>43544181
They aren't in stock anywhere.
playing Naya Burn. To Nacatl, or not to Nacatl? Also, manabase starts with 10 fetches, what are your other 9-10 cards?
>>43544350
How's that land of the free treating you :^)
>>43544500
I don't know, I'm Canadian
>>43544658
You're Canadian and you play with snow permanents?
It's like poetry
>>43544707
I'm glad you can appreciate it
>>43544500
What site is this?
>>43544830
magiccardmarket
Dealing with this abomination right now. Runs fairly well. Still adjusting the list. Any suggestions?
SB:
4 Sun Droplet
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Torpor Orb
1 Pithing Needle
3 Nature's Claim
1 Back to Nature
>>43544932
I love how this deck does make any part of the meta after winning a GP
>>43544997
I still don't see how it won. It's not very good at all. It's like casual jank and it's just sad how easy it is to play around
>>43544932
is telepathy worth playing with/instead of probe?
>>43544997
>The dude that made the deck and won that GP went 0-2-1 drop in the SCG Open last week.
Here's a question to all you anons. In any RW deck, why run path to exile when you can run the better chained to the rocks?
>>43545510
>better
>sorcery speed
>>43545510
Abrupt Decay is one of the most commonly played removal spells in Modern.
With Path, their creature is gone for good. They can get their shit back from Chained.
>>43544418
mountains of some sort
>>43545510
Doesn't stop twin.
Can die to enchantment removal.
>>43544418
Don't Nacatl. Not worth it. You have better spells to cast.
8-12 fetches
4-6 shocks
2-6 basics
I run 8 fetches, 6 shocks, and 6 mountains.
>>43545510
I certainly hope you're baiting
>>43545693
no copperlines?
my current lineup is something like
4 mire/4 foothills/2 mesa
3 foundry/2 stomping ground
2 copperline gorge
3 mountain
Also, why no Nacatl? I know it's a controversial topic, but a lot of the lists that top run it, so why shouldn't I?
>>43545832
Thanks for the free win Zoo bros.
It's even easier when you shock and ping yourself half to death so you can play your mediocre beaters
>>43545832
If all the top burn lists dropped 4 Lightning Bolt for 4 Lightning Strike, would you do it? I wouldn't.
You don't want Nacatl because it's at best a 3/3 that'll be Bolted after you've taken 2-5 damage to get out. You want fast (read: haste) creatures and things that immediately threaten (Eidolon). Burn is NOT a combat game. Your creatures are expendible burn spells. Getting 4 out of a Goblin Guide before having it get killed is plenty enough value. Nacatl is too slow, fucks your mana base, and is all-around better suited for a deck like Zoo.
Okay, example. Turn 1 is fetch into Forest and Nacatl, turn 2 is fetch into Foundry. If you're playing the mirror, Nacatl is gone the moment you turn it sideways. By turn 2, fetches and shocks included, you've taken 4 damage, plus at least 3 from Lava Spike and maybe 2 from Goblin Guide. Suddenly you're sitting on turn 2 post-combat without a creature, one untapped land, at 11 life against another burn player.
Don't run Nacatl.
Should I get a Living End deck? Is it good or just gimmicky?
>>43546330
it's a fine deck, but it's such a boring deck to play.
>>43546396
how so?
>>43546410
The game plan is always the same.
There are certain nuances to it like knowing when and what to cycle against which decks but the win condition is always the same.
>>43546410
the deck is good in certain metagames, and it has a lot of good matchups, but the deck is just cycle for a few turns, then cast a cascade spell, and it goes like that for hundreds of games. Obviously this is a generalization, but I've never found it to be fun. Sometimes you do get interesting games, but that often means you're on the losing side as well.
>>43546450
I see, what suggestions do you have for modern decks that are similarly on the lower end cost-wise that would be more interesting to play? I want to make sure I'm playing a deck that doesn't just feel brain-dead.
>>43546501
Affinity is actually really interesting and complex.
>>43546739
>inb4 hur dur dump hand
It is really fun and requires planning, sequencing and the balls to know when to go all in with ravager
>>43536670
Man, they should print Emrakul, the Shrineless God
>>43547234
any new version of emrakul would just be disappointingly weaker than The Aeons Torn
>>43547326
Emrakul, the Shrinless God
CMC 20
When ~ enters the battlefield, if it wasnt cast from your hand, exile it.
When ~ enters the battlefield, gain control of all creatures with CMC 3 or less until end of turn.
Sacrifice a creature: ~ gains annihilator 1 until end of turn.
20/20 with flying,
>>43541665
YES
>>43547517
Garbage
>>43547517
>enters the battlefield
lol stop
>>43547517
Were you trying to prove his point?
>>43548190
>>43548458
>>43548584
He was obviously intentionally making it awful.
How does it feel to be so stupid?
Why does Scars have such baller art
>>43551113
why is Karn the best planeswalker
>>43551261
That's actually Koth
>>43551113
Because Mirrodinisthe best plane
Is there a good dueling simulator for MtG around currently?
>>43551113
because Chippy doesn't do art for WotC any more.
What should I keep in mind when piloting an Affinity deck?
>>43551379
I usexmageit's automated so some people thrash it for being a handholder but I find cockatrice a pain in the ass to use
>>43552371
remember to play your spells.
Been thinking of making a decently good Vampire Tribal, but not a lot of good vampires around with the exception of a small amount. But i might work around it.
>>43552371
hoping people don't draw kataki or stony silence or wrath of god
I only have room for two sets in my deck so out of these three which should I run:
Thoughtsieze, Inquisition of Kozilek, Tidehollow Sculler
Or should I run a mix of all three?
>>43552590
Now I usually don't tell people not to do something, but I'm just gonna say that I wouldn't recommend doing that.
>>43553357
Tidehollow Sculler is bad
thoughtseize and IOK is infinitely superior and they messes up your opponent's plan and give you a view of their hand on the first turn
>>43553357
I'd only run Tidehollow if you're doing some shit like Company.
>>43537088
>first X was 1, second X was 7
>Here comes seven 7/7 tokens with haste.
Please learn to play and fuck off to the commander/standard thread. X is the same value everywhere on the same card, so you can't choose to make the "first" X 1 and the "second" 7, you just choose a value for X and use that EVERYWHERE. At most you could have made 4 4/4's.
What do people think about gifts? And not that queer gifts that plays green.
>>43553732
It's trash
>>43551330
>Because New Phyrexia is the best plane
FTFY
So how far do you think the Khans fetches will rise before the cap?
I want to sell my Delta's but not if they'll climb significantly
>>43553732
Its like a less reliable U Tron
Play through the breach or U tron instead
![189a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6X5t5mq.jpg "189a[1].jpg")
This is what I've been playing lately
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/summoning-trap-valakut/
Was thinking of replacing the Coursers with pic related but haven't had a chance to test it.
>>43553732
Too slow for thee current meta.
Land disruption can easily kill the deck, which there is a lot of.
Does anyone play UW control? I really want to build it to have a deck with a playstyle that contrasts my burn deck but I'm not sure if it's any good and I should just go and build Twin instead
>Make ballin Human Tokens deck
>Deck revolves around putting out a lot of tokens and buffing all of them
>Think I'll win with big peasant rushes
>End up winning almost every game by just voltron-ing a 1/1 human token
Aight I mean I'm still winning.
is there a way to keep dredgevine without faithless looting viable in any way?
>>43553732
Gifts is a fun card, and has a powerful effect. But Wizards seems dead-set on making sure a deck like that can never be good.
>>43555171
Summoning Trap is fun as shit. I run it with Eternal Witness, Restoration Angel, and Kiki-Jiki when I know the field is going to be saturated with U. Bait with Lotus Cobras and Knights and you can combo out T2.
It's fun winning games that you absolutely shouldn't be winning.
>>43551330
sadly a lot of people left during the first mirridon.
Kitchen Magic player here, and I thought this question best suited this thread.
I don't understand this card.
>play amulet
>pay 4C and tap to put a fuckhuge creature of any color down from now on
How is this fair?
What are ways around it besides using artifact destruction slots in my deck?
One of our friends slaps down all these new Eldrazi with these cards and pushes our shit in.
>>43544997
>>43545052
>>43545099
remember that prior to winning he had top 16 at GPCharlotte
putting results is more than a fluke, doing great to GPs in a row and then doing bad on the third one is more of an example of how open a format modern is
>>43561109
>besides using artifact destruction slots in my deck?
use versatile artifact destruction like putrefy which can be used as a kill spell or qasali pridemage that functions as artifact hate but also a decent beater
play black with discard spells
play blue with counter spells, never tap out on turn 4
red has demolish which can stop him from casting the amulet or just destroy it, but a solid red deck should beat him by turn 4.
you are playing ktichen magic, build infect with blazing shoal and kill him turn 2
>>43561130
Not to mention that 2 other latern players did well in that tournament. The deck is strong and extremely underplayed. If you just consider, say, top 16 conversion rate, it probably has the highest in the format.
>>43561334
>playset of blazing shoal
>playset of inkmoth Nexus (I already have 3 otherwise I would say fuck no because $25 a card)
>shit load of 9+ cost red creatures
>enough land
I'm trying to think of 1 or 2 cost infect filler just in case I can't inkmoth on turn 1, but I'm at work and don't really have a database to browse through. Any ideas?
Inkmoth is perfect because flying. It would be assumed they would have a nonflying chumper on the field on turn 1 or 2 if they're on the play. Any card that gives trample for 1 or 2 cost?
>>43562185
Plague Stinger, the 1B 1/1 flying infect guy.
>>43562660
Excellent. Would hold off ending the game until turn 3, but still. What a silly combo to build a deck around. I'm looking forward to the amount of salt that comes from it (when it does happen, that is)
>>43562660
>>43563552
How could you not mention Blighted Agent?
>>43562185
Glistering Elf is a classic.
And stuff like Faithless Looting to dig for necessary cards.
Dammit, captcha, what the fuck is "patio"?
>>43563599
Haven't fucked with new mirrodin block in quite a while. That's awesome, thanks. Looks like it'll be a BU deck for this dumb fucking deck.
>>43563673
Very doubtful I can run a four or even three color deck. I'm thinking BU and maybe a third color, but I'm unsure. Red or Green?
>>43563692
In case you don't know Infect is tier 1 and capable of turn 2 kills.
Here's a list you can copy if you want to lose all your friends
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=10820&d=261918&f=MO
>>43564050
Did not know that, but I do know I ain't got the dough for a $700 deck, especially just to teach one of my friends a lesson. Thanks for the link though.
>>43564116
Then get the fuck out
>>43547517
Seriously unimpressed
>>43553178
>Wog
I think you meant Cc or Shiggystorm
But you obviously play white, so you're retarded anyway
>>43564442
Please see >>43561109
I have since found the kitchen magic thread, no need to be a nigger.
>>43564692
>blindly comes into any thread about mtg
>asks questions that are obvious
>can't beat amulet into timmy creatures
Fuck off.
>>43564709
>this asspained about an anon replying in his super speshul thred instead of making an entire thread for one question
>unable to deal with people who aren't willing to spend $700 on 75 pieces of cardboard
>polices others around to feel better about all those rounds he's lost
Way2go babe
>>43564833
Sorry bruh, I play Robots. Ain't no losing goin on here
>>43564709
You really are shit.
So I'm going to my first draft tonight and I'm nervous as shit, this will be my first magic event ever. I have penny sleeves for the actual deck, my own proxied deck to play casually and a pad +paper for life kewpingt. Anything else I need? Anything I should know before going? I've been practicing drafting on xmage but have had little success getting more than 1 win using battle for zendikar.
On a side note, are there any cards I should be looking out for in my packs?
>>43537088
Like other people have said X costs don't work that way, but I feel you should know that there are cards out there that do work with multiple variables X and Y.
Tuning this right now. I'm enjoying this list. Has good match up against aggressive or mid range creature decks. and it's fun to play.
I feel like I shouldn't be running Geist in the sideboard but some lists do. Not really sure what he's good against. Maybe decks with lots of spot removals.
>>43565867
list here.
Land (23)
3x Arid Mesa
1x Celestial Colonnade
1x Clifftop Retreat
1x Desolate Lighthouse
4x Flooded Strand
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Hallowed Fountain
3x Island
1x Mountain
1x Plains
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Scalding Tarn
3x Steam Vents
1x Sulfur Falls
Instant (17)
2x Dispel
1x Electrolyze
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Path to Exile
4x Remand
2x Spell Snare
Creature (12)
4x Deceiver Exarch
2x Pestermite
2x Restoration Angel
4x Snapcaster Mage
Sorcery (4)
4x Serum Visions
Enchantment (4)
4x Splinter Twin
Sideboard (15)
2x Geist of Saint Traft
1x Jace, Architect of Thought
4x Leyline of Sanctity
1x Relic of Progenitus
1x Rest in Peace
1x Sowing Salt
2x Stony Silence
1x Supreme Verdict
2x Wear / Tear
>>43565630
Always keep an eye on your stuff.
Expeditions are part of the draft, so if you open one, TAKE IT.
Don't be afraid to call a judge.
Why will Legacy die and people can finally come to Modern?
>>43565985
In my experience, people that quit legacy generally quit magic altogether
I don't know anyone that has quit modern for standard, either
>>43566028
I guess Standard to Modern to Legacy is considered to be the normal progression. I actually started in Legacy. It wasn't fun for me so I came to modern.
Why do some of us feel we have to limit ourselves to one playstyle? I enjoy playing Modern, Standard, EDH, Legacy, and even Pauper when the chance arises. Not everyone I play with has the supposed thousands of dollars to throw away that are a "requirement" for some deck types, and even then so long as you're a smart enough player there's always a chance you'll win when facing grognards that powerful.
>>43566060
I used to play Extended a lot. It was like a deeper Standard, where powerful cards could usually offset each other and a slow rotation kept things relatively fresh.
Modern is just in a place where it's not quite Extended, and it's not Legacy-lite. I don't even think Wizards really knows what it wants from the format.
>>43565959
Well, I wouldn't go with the splash W, I do reather go with Black. Tasigur has proven to be really good and consistent, normally cost B to cast (can be turn 2 because i play thought scour) what do you want the geist for? and I see the lack of early mass removal (a.k.a. pyroclasm/anger of the gods) disturbing. Leyline of sanctity would be good agains abzan/jund, i mean if you are playing against mono red, just outfuck them with combo. I think its an interesting view of the deck, good spells, well balanced. But Tasigur vs Restoration Angel = Tasigur. Kolaghans Command/terminate vs path to exile = more diversity better.
Daily reminder to rev for 15
>>43567209
>Sun's Champion
Why? One of the worst walkers printed.
>>43567209
mfw i got revd for like 11 today
>>43567421
That's patently untrue. Overcosted =/= bad objectively, merely bad in this specific environment.
>>43567489
>playing jund against an autist at my university's shitty american control
>he's at 5 life, but stabilized the board
>end of my turn, taps out to rev for like 8 or something
>skullcrack from out of the sideboard specifically for this
>he draws a land for his turn
>untap and draw a bolt
>>43567557
But the abilities aren't even good.
>>43567724
Three tokens are good
Often one-sided wrath is good
Flying anthem is good
>>43567760
At the kitchen table perhaps
>>43567833
Which goes right back to
>Not objectively bad
>Just bad in this environment
The abilities themselves are great, just not great attached to a vulnerable six-mana investment.
>>43567895
I swear this is a Modern general
>>43567927
If you don't want to start arguments like this, maybe you should throw around phrases like
>One of the worst walkers ever printed
or
>The abilities aren't even good
I mean, yeah, the card is too slow for modern, but that doesn't make what you said any less ridiculous.
>>43567117
I really like Jeskai so I decided to build it. It's very close to UR twin with a little bit of white. It's actually how Temur twin is built; splashing only for Goyf. I think path really helps against a lot of creature decks. Now that there are a lot of aggro midrange decks on the raise, I enjoy playing this version. I agree that Grixis is the stronger build though.
>>43567117
>I see the lack of early mass removal (a.k.a. pyroclasm/anger of the gods) disturbing
You're right. I think I should cut the geists for those.
>>43567643
but he still drew like 8 cards, right...?
Is storm still shit because I kind of want to get into modern with it and it was bad a few months ago
>>43569145
Just play what you want . Tier don't mean shit
>>43567421
She's not good in modern but "one of the worst walkers ever printed" is quite the stretch
>>43569185
This.
I play Skred most of the time and I almost never lose.
If you learn the ins and outs of your deck and the game you'll usually be on fair ground. Unless the MU is just inherently bad
>>43566555
Inconsistent bannings is a pretty big indicator of that
>>43565469
>He calls affinity "robots"
Shitter detected
>>43569294
Lots of people call it that. Some interchange.
I think this is more of a case of autist detected.It's you.
>>43569145
Short answer is (unfortunately) yes; storm got hamstrung by the bannings.
Storm player here.
>>43569202
This. Tell that to Tibalt and Vraska.
>>43566555
>I don't even think Wizards really knows what it wants from the format.
Wizzerds wants a format where aggro rules.
The only competitive aggro deck in Legacy is Berserk Poison, Vintage is pretty much made to be devoid of aggro because summoning sickness is a thing, and Standard is always a total zoo (not the deck).
The problem is that in order to make the format not become "Legacy with fewer cards," Wizzerds has had to ban all the good utility cards that make combo and control decks function properly.
>>43567833
Nope.
3 dudes a turn is both a bulwark and a wincon on its own. The difficulty is in accelerating to six in white.
>>43544932
So. Is it good?
>>43544932
I just noticed that I have the majority of the value cards. It doesn't seem very fun though
>>43567209
and then
Is RDW the same thing as Burn?
>>43569294
i mean like 2 cards in the entire deck have affinity
>>43570102
more or less
>>43570088
the meta breaker
>>43570136
But the entire deck has an affinity for artifacts
>>43544932
>mfw I beat the Lantern player 2-0 with Jund
>>43570202
What meta are you trying to break
>>43570202
>chained to the rocks
>>43569504
Modern is just a prime example of "It's okay when green does it"
>Want to look at the top 3 cards of your library for a card you want for U?
>NOPE TOO POWERFUL
>But you can dig 5 for G, that's okay
>Want to search your library for a card you want and put it in your hand for 1B?
>FUCK NO
>But you can do it for 1G instead :^)
>>43570344
jesus why are you so salty about tron
>>43567209
never change /tg/
>>43570344
>Want to look at the top 3 cards of your library for a card you want for U?
selecting one of any of the top 3 cards you have
>But you can dig 5 for G, that's okay
getting one colourless card, sure you can get a land drop out of it but if thats all you do it for its not fucking powerful, minus a few decks if i was playing green I'd splash for cards like ponder or treasure cruise (before it was banned as many did)
>>43570260
Got a problem with no-downside path to exile?
>>43570539
>no downside
>abrupt decay bait
>>43570490
>He doesn't know about Tron or Amulet Bloom
The standard thread is that way, bucko
>>43570568
They just wasted one of the only spells you can't counter on a 1-drop. Since it exiled a creature, that's a 2-for-1.
>>43570590
except you have no other targets for Abrupt Decay to hit. So its not a waste. The creature fucking comes back nerd.
>>43570572
if you think anciant stirings and sylvan scrying breaks tron and amulet bloom I've got some news for you
>>43570724
Its totally not though. They do it at your end step, you cant counter it, and then they get Dark back just in time for their upkeep. Replace them with either Paths or Bolts man, they're way more permanent. Jund only runs like 3 basics so the 4th one is free, assuming they haven't already fetched them out.
>>43570759
If it draws abrupt decay hate, it also protects spellheart chimera though. Every counter that gets casted makes it get even bigger. It's a flying tarmogoyf in this deck. Protecting it from abrupt decay is paramount.
>>43570759
Stop replying, this guy is either an idiot or a troll or both
>>43570823
Jund has like, 10 kill spells dude. Your chimera will die one way or another. You have to be fucking joking
>>43570846
IT MAKes me so mad for no reason like I can't believe i share a game with people like this
>>43570860
It's probably a new player. They will learn.
>>43570202
you should have way more basic islands than mountains/
>>43570418
always rev, no matter what, no matter when, no matter how many spells you have or have not countered, rev gives you what you need.
>>43571087
No. They will suffer.
They will quit.
They will go back to that kiddy game that is standard where they will be coddled by not having to play against combo and decent midrange.
And then.
They might learn.
>>43571634
How do you play vs UWr Control as an aggro deck? I just lost in the most frustrating way to it
>>43571634
I played UW Tron tonight at my locals. Game 3 against burn, I stabilized behind a spellskite and timely reinforcements. Then I purposely durdled until I cast Rev for 15. Put me on cloud nine for the rest of the night.
>>43570088
What happens if both of them happen to have this creature out?
Fuck all your meme rev decks and other shit.
Skred is king. Skred is anti-meta. Skred is reasonably priced control. Skred is anything but braindead.
Why haven't you accepted Mono-Red Skred control as your one true saviour.
It even fits the snowflake role by allowing you to slot in cards depending on your meta.
>>43570690
It's still digging 5 deep for G and finding the last piece of your combo for 1G. Those two cards can make even a three-card combo like Tron crazy consistent, and yet they're considered okay for Modern. And yet the difference between Serum Visions and Ponder is apparently so great that one would apparently break UR-based combo, so it's not allowed.
If Tron can dig 5 deep for whatever it wants and tutor for combo pieces for 2cmc, why can't other decks?
>>43573523
The fact that other decks have no use for those cards is the reason they aren't broken.
It's like complaining Phyrexian Unlife is overpowered because it enables Ad Nauseam
>>43570202
What the fuck is this.
>>43573523
Those cards have drawbacks in that they only find certain cards. Granted tron and amulet built are built to take advantage of that, but you don't see those cards making them dominant, it merely makes them competitive, which is fine.
Enchantress wheeeen?
>>43573349
I counter your Koths and stormbreaths, rev for 15 and play aetherling. GG.
>>43574770
When Argothian Enchantress gets a Modern reprint. Which will be shortly before the Rapture.
>>43573182
I'm pretty sure it goes by whichever replacement effect entered the battlefield last
>>43577678
Timestamp doesn't matter. The replacements effects are applied at different times. You just follow them in the order that they go off. The end result is that they cancel each other out.
Could /tg/ help me with a jank Knightfall/Norin the wary deck?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/norin-knightfall/
r8/h8/masturb8
My current deck
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-05-15-bant-gifts/
>>43575521
>Implying I play shitbreath dragon
>Implying my side board can't shit all over counterspells
>>43577944
What are we supposed to be rating?
These never make any sense.
You just netdecked a mediocre control package, what is their to rate?
Your creativity? 0
Your chance of winning? Also quite low.
>be me
>up against a field full of creatures with nothing on my side
>they attack
>i Sphinx Rev for 15 and win
>mfw
>>43578833
>things that never happened
>>43578880
>what are jokes
>>43578880
>Someone bullies me online
>Sphinx Rev for 15 and win
>mfw
I'm going to a Rags and Riches tourney soon here. The rules are ONLY commons and I believe Modern.
What would you gentlemen suggest? I'm thinking of bringing one of the following:
>GW Auras
>Tron
>Delver
>BW Aristocrat-Husk
>RDW
The local meta is usually pretty control heavy.
>>43580166
If it's only commons with the modern ban list, might wanna try burn or something. Lava spike, lightning bolt, bump in the night, all that good stuff. Never played modern pauper though
I can get blood moons for $40 a pop but they're white border.
Thinking I might just use a sharpie to fix that though
anyone here play infect? if so how has FNM ben for you?
>>43581449
some one told me they were 5 dollars a few months back, is this true?
>>43536670
>Buy card pack
>Get Sharkan Unbroken
Yesssssss.
Any goodor funSharkan Unbroken builds?
>>43581600
Bait?
If not, wrong thread.
Who are your favorite bears for hate bears?
>>43582871
Thalia. Such a perfect card
Did knightfall ever become a thing?
What are the significant differences in function between these two cards if any, and which do you prefer?
>>43583443
Banisher is a fixed O-ring/Field hunter, you have to be pretty new to not know what that means. As far as playability, I use a single Hunter in by podless pod list for chording in case of ultimate shit going down.
MY LOCAL STORE HAS MTG 15 BOXES
AS A NEW PLAYER WHO LOVES BUSTING PACKS, DO I BUY OR NAH?
CHEERS,
W
>>43583772
Do you play modern? If so no. Just buy singles
>>43583778
I'm wanting to get in to modern. Not really keen on falling into the money trap that is standard. What sets would you recommend opening if I was just trying to accumulate some cards as I get started?
>>43576451
>shortly before the Rapture.
Toppest of kek
>>43583979
What kind of deck do you wanna make? Just open Khans till you get fetchlands I suppose if you're heart set on it
>>43583979
Just buy singles. Almost all cards in a set are trash for Modern play
>>43583979
You could try building Monogreen Stompy, which is a cheap deck, and play that while you gather Modern staples. What is your monthly budget?
>>43536670
When is Mental Misstep getting unbanned /tg/
>>43584010
Honestly a bit unsure mane. I opened some Khans last week and pulled a Polluted Delta, the green/white fetch, and Prairie Stream. Looking for something semi competitive. Doesn't have to be top tier though. Are these fetchlands going to be forever legal in modern?
>>43584044
Packs are so fun tho. I have lurked mtg stocks a lot though so I do get singles really is the way to go. I'll probably bite the bullet and justgo down that path when I know what I want to build.
>>43584051
Monthly budget is about $300-400. I'm liking the look of monogreen ramp, and possibly vampires. Would love anything viable that's blue too. Not new to tcgs, just nee to magic. Complexity of the deck shouldn't be an issue
>>43584148
>Are these fetchlands going to be forever legal in modern?
Are you shitting me?
>>43584148
Yes. You might want to do some reading up on modern man.
>>43584178
I-it's my first day
>>43584190
Then use google, you useless shit.
>>43584190
Listen.
What kind of game do you like playing? Do you like ruining your opponents plans, do you like ignoring your opponent, or do you like hoping your opponent doesn't murder you before you just fucking win?
>>43584222
No.
>>43584190
Don't use Google, you'll learn nothing and lose even if you play a really good deck.
>>43584222
Trips confirm I must use google.
Forreal though I did google shite. Just wanted to confirm with actual players they'd be legal before I drop the cash on playsets.
>>43584231
Definitely more of an offensive game. Lock/control decks are fun, but fast ones are more what I'm used to playing.
>>43584281
Sets do not rotate out of Modern. Once a card becomes Modern-legal, it will always be Modern-legal unless it is banned. To look up the legality of a card, go to http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Default.aspx, enter a card, and click on "Sets & Legality." If you are interested in aggro decks, try Monogreen Stompy, Burn, or Merfolk.
>>43584281
Perfect! I have some deck lists you'll like. If you'd like to email me then go ahead and email me at [email protected]
If you don't want to email anyone, you can simply say so and I'll provide you with Primers instead of advice.
>>43584281
Best offensive decks in Modern are, in order
>affinity
>burn
>zoo
>fish
>>43584480
>No Become Battle Mage combo
Your list is shit.
>>43584377
>>43584480
I'll look in to all of these decks. Thanks a heap for your help boys.
>>43584466
Not sure if troll of super nice. Regardless, will send an email in a bit
>>43555997
As someone who's been playing it for a while, it depends on the meta.
UW, without red, stomps fair midrange decks, and the slower creature decks like merfolk and company.
If Sphinx's Rev and Supreme Verdict are good in your meta, go for it. If abrupt decays are rare and you're surrounded by linear strategies like tron and affinity, twin will be way better.
>>43567643
>skullcrack in jund
Ahahaha why not guttural response, or better yet inquisition?
And you do realize he gets to draw the 8 cards right?
>>43570590
> since it exiled a creature, it's a 2-for-1
![gideonallyofzendikar[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DDuatgF.jpg "gideonallyofzendikar[1].jpg")
>Doesn't die to bolt or abrupt decay
Prepare your anuses
He's coming
>>43570823
>flying goyf
>cmc 3
>dies to lightning bolt
>is only affected by your spells
You want geist of saint traft, my friend.
>>43584869
>2 W
>>43584959
In a format where triple blue and double red exist in the same deck with little problem you're gonna use that as an excuse?
>>43585012
White is only good for sideboard
>>43585054
I can't tell if he's serious
>>43584723
I'm not super nice, but I'm not an asshole either.
>>43584869
He's coming in what though? Superfriends? People forcing Allies in Modern?
What's your favorite deck name?
>>43584132
never ever ever ever ever please god no
Why has this general been infested with noobs/casuals/shitters lately?
Honestly what the hell
>>43585262
Please God yes? It's a great card and I'm sick of it being banned.
