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Buggers who mean it Edition

Previous thread: >>46375817

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8tatre3vd10yv/Avalon_Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
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>Wargaming Compendium http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!s9xTTDpQ!CasEjRETeqZsJ5LOzYrJdg
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Ronin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8xke04pc3hne2k/Ronin.pdf
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ

Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!
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2nd of April in military history:

1513 - Spanish explorer and conquistador Juan Ponce de León first sights land in what is now Florida.
1755 - Commodore William James captures the Maratha fortress of Suvarnadurg on the west coast of India.
1801 - The British capture the Danish-Norwegian fleet at the Battle of Copenhagen in what Nelson considered his most hard-fought battle.
1863 - Food shortages incite hundreds of angry women to riot in Richmond, Virginia, demanding that the Confederate government release emergency supplies.
1865 - The Confederate Army of Northern Virginia abandons Richmond following defeat at the Third Battle of Petersburg.
1885 - Cree warriors attack the village of Frog Lake in Canada's North-West Territories, killing nine.
1917 - U.S. President Woodrow Wilson asks Congress for a declaration of war on the German Empire.
1921 - The Autonomous Government of Khorasan, a short-lived military government in Iran, is established.
1975 - Thousands of refugees flee from Quảng Ngãi Province in South Vietnam in the face of advancing NVA troops.
1979 - A Soviet biological warfare laboratory at Sverdlovsk accidentally releases airborne anthrax spores, killing 66 people and an unknown amount of livestock.
1982 - Argentina invades the Falkland Islands.
1992 - Serb paramilitary groups massacre between 48 and 78 civilians in the Bosnian town of Bijeljina.
1994 - The National Convention of New Sudan, an assembly of the SPLA/M, opens in Chukudum.
2002 - Israeli forces besiege a group of some 50 armed Palestinians inside the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.
2004 - Islamist terrorists involved in the Madrid attacks attempt to bomb the Spanish AVE high-speed train, the attack is thwarted.
2015 - Al Shabaab militants attack Garissa University College in Kenya, killing 148 and injuring 79.
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April 2nd marks 34 years since Argentine forces invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands (known in Spanish as Islas Malvinas), thus beginning the ~2 month long Falklands War.

In the months leading up to the war, Argentina had been in the midst of devastating economic stagnation and large scale civil unrest against the country's military junta, which had held power
since 1976. In December 1981 a new junta led by General Leopoldo Galtieri, Brigadier Basilio Lami Dozo and Admiral Jorge Anaya came to office. Anaya in particular would be the main architect and
supporter of military action in the Falklands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.

By opting for invasion, the Galtieri junta hoped to invoke the patriotic feelings of the Argentine people towards the islands, thus distracting them from worsening economic conditions and ongoing
human rights violations by the regime whilst simultaneously boosting the regime's dwindling legitimacy.

Tension between Argentina and the United Kingdom reached a head on 19 March when a group of Argentine marines disguised as scrap merchants raised the Argentine Flag on South Georgia. The Royal Navy
despatched the patrol vessel HMS Endurance from Stanley in response, concerned that the UK would strengthen its forces in the South Atlantic, the invasion of the Falklands proper was brought forward to 2 April.
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>>46415630
Falklands governor Rex Hunt was alerted to a possible invasion on 1 April via a telegran from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

Hunt summoned the two senior Royal Marines officers present on the Falklands to discuss their defensive options. He allegedly commented during the meeting 'Sounds like the buggers mean it'. Sources conflict over exactly how many Royal Marines were present at Stanley on the 2nd, ranging from just under 60 to 85, reinforced by some 25-40 members of the Falkland Islands Defence Force (FIDF).
Overall British command was given to Major Mike Norman, on account of his seniority.

The first move of the Argentine operation (codenamed Operation Rosario) was the reconnaissance of the bay at Port William by 14 frogmen aboard the submarine ARA Santa Fe. The commandos left the sub
at 1:40 PM on 1 April and reached their target, Yorke Bay by 4:30 AM the next day. After planting beacons for the main landing they seized the airstrip and lighthouse without resistance.

With the main landing site secured, the destroyer ARA Santísima Trinidad halted 500 metres off of Mullet Creek and lowered 21 assault craft containing 84 special forces troops under LtCdr Guillermo Sánchez-Sabarots
as well as a smaller party (known as the Patrulla Techo, or Roof Patrol), under LtCdr Pedro Giachino. The Roof Patrol was to take Government House in Stanley, some 2.5 miles North. The main party had the harder
target of Moody Brook barracks, some six miles away over rough terrain in the dark (only one man had night vision equipment). The main group reached Moody Brook at 5:30 AM and began their assault, not realising that
the barracks were empty. The noise of this attack alerted Major Norman to the presence of the Argentines on the island, he thus drove to Government house with all speed.
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>>46415704
South of Government House, Giachino's group faced the task of capturing a key objective with no radio and only 16 men. Unbeknownst to Giachino, the Marines were mostly concentrated at government house, rather
than Moody Brook. The Roof Patrol were outnumbered two to one. The attack barely an hour after the landings at Yorke bay, Giachino himself, with 4 men made it into the house through a servant entrace. Their attack
was beaten off by three marines. Giachino, badly wounded, pulled the pin on a grenade and threatened to use it. The marines attempted to talk him down so they could treat him but he refused. Giachino would later
die of his wounds in Stanley Hospital.

Outside, the rest of the Patrol continued to shift firing positions, confusing the defenders into believing they were facing a reinforced company rather than 12 men. The commandos also managed to disable several marine
Land Rovers with gunfire. Eventually, governor Hunt sent an envoy under a white flag to the Argentine command post at Stanley Town Hall where the Argentine chief agreed to a meeting with Hunt. Meanwhile the marines in
the house spotted the approaching Amtracs, on their way to rendezvous with Sánchez-Sabarots' group who were themselves en-route to reinforce their comrades at Government House. Major Norman advised Hunt that they could
attempt to break out to the countryside but after meeting with the Argentine commander in chief, Admiral Carlos Büsser, Hunt agreed to surrender his forces at 9:30 AM.

The Royal Marines and FIDF members were herded onto the playing fields. The prisoners were later taken to Comodoro Rivadavia in Patagonia and from there to Uruguay and eventually back to the UK.
As the marines were being taken to Montevideo, one of them told an Argentine guard 'Don't make yourself too comfy here mate, we'll be back.'
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>>46415730
Argentine casualties totalled 1 killed and 3 wounded as well as slight damage to an Amtrac. There were no British casualties, though several vehicles were disabled or confiscated.
News of the victory was greeted by huge, cheering crowds in Buenos Aires whereas in London the news was received with shock, the crisis eventually prompted the resignation of the foreign secretary, Lord Carrington. The following day Argentina captured South Georgia.

The Falklands War remains a landmark conflict of the 20th Century and is somewhat surprisingly underreprersented in wargaming, with the possible exception of aerial games.

The small-scale, close-quarters nature of the fighting around Government House lends itself well to skirmish gaming and any appropriate Modern or Cold War system could be used,
Force on Force being the most obvious example. The story of Corporal York's section (which I didn't really have space for, sadly) also reads like a textbook short FiveCore campaign.
For gaming the conflict in general, systems with strong campaign support like No End in Sight could be suitable.

Relevant Ospreys:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/4vi585b83cxb3gl/Osprey+-+CAC+028+-+Air+War+in+the+Falklands+1982.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bb1r7ac85o5q35t/Osprey+-+CAM+244+-+The+Falklands+1982.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tdk1q0e519jr88d/Osprey+-+ELI+014+-+The+British+Army+in+the+1980s.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ngzwjmz5vksk637/Osprey+-+ELI+057+-+The+Royal+Marines+1939-93.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1f3twd5t5a3fhw1/Osprey+-+MAA+133+-+Battle+for+the+Falklands+%281%29+Land+Forces.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/w9aq4m4c522qyxc/Osprey+-+MAA+134+-+Battle+for+the+Falklands+%282%29+Naval+Forces.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bbrv7ye9dpoqea9/Osprey+-+MAA+135+-+Battle+for+the+Falklands+%283%29+Air+Forces.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/04vfpfiz60bypw0/Osprey+-+MAA+250+-+Argentine+Forces+in+the+Falklands.pdf
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>>46415667
Dammit, anon.
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>>46415789
sorry, it was first time in almost 2 years that i was online when new thread started ;_;
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>>46415868
I knew I shouldn't have posted in the other thread till I'd finished all the pasta.
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>>46415922
dont worry, I deleted it
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>>46415982
I wasn't that annoyed really but oh well, doesn't matter.
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So i wanted to start Bolt action and wanted to play the French, i am interested in the french colonial forces, what would a list for them look like i am new to stuff like that( i am bad at list for wargames)
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>>46416392
A good tip for historical wargaming: always look for historical OOBs (Orders Of Battle).

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=130572

This is for a standard 1940 French platoon, but I guess it wouldn't be too different in case of a Colonial force either. Take all squads with max. number and with the equipment present here, and fill in the rest with what you fancy - a tank, an armoured car, an MMG/HMG, a mortar, artillery, anything.
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>>46417834
I see this is the version of that photo where they didn't edit out the looted watches.
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>>46416392

Look into the French Forces in Tunisia or the 13th Foreign Legion Demi-Brigade for their activities in Africa, if you want to stick with more French uniforms. There's actually a free PDF list out right now that covers their fight at Bir Hakeim! PDF relevant. Not technically "official", but endorsed by Warlord, so go nuts.

Depending on how close to the historic TOE you want to stick, the average French platoon would have a commander/command squad, plus three squads of eleven men with an LMG and VB launcher (although they were phasing these out in favor of a platoon 50mm mortar right as the war started). The platoon's parent company also had a heavy weapons section with some MMG/HMG mounts. Colonial forces wouldn't have access to the newest and greatest kit, so you can use older armored cars, etc.
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>>46416392
Find out what your local players play, it's more fun to use equipment from the same stage of the war, so don't bring a bunch of early war kitted colonials to fight late war German vets.
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>>46415630
>In the months leading up to the war, Argentina had been in the midst of devastating economic stagnation and large scale civil unrest against the country's military junta


How to predict if Argentina is about to get uppity about the Falklands.
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>>46417909
It honestly surprises me how valuable watches are/were considered. Maybe I just don't get it, or I'm the wrong generation.
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>>46419348
Fancy watches are still worth a ton of money today.
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>>46419348
Considering how finely machined and constructed I'm not.
Seriously, today you could mill or laser a lot of shit, but back in the day it had to be done mostly by hand.
It's an insane feat of engineering to make a clock small enough to carry around on wrist. People take too much for granted.
I mean you're running around with a phone that basically blow the tricorders from Star Trek out of the water. Shit that was in the James Bond cars, like GPS navigation is standard in vanilla cars. And that is just stuff from the 70s.
The fact alone that you get clean drinkable water out of your wall inside your house is fucking amazing.
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What is the quality like on the Conquest Games plastics?
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bedtime bmp
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>>46415630
For an alternate take on the Falklands, I can't but recommend "The Fireflies of Port Stanley":

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262286
http://www.amazon.com/Fireflies-Port-Stanley-Marc-Jones-ebook/dp/B00COBGLLA

The short of it:
Due to some bureaucracy shenanigans, in the 50s 3 Sherman Fireflies are sent to the Islands. The FIDF don't say a word, on the principle of "if we don't talk about them, they won't take them from us". Argentina invades. Much hilarity ensue.
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Why do different militaries use different unit sizes at the lower levels?

I've just been reading about armor organization and while the US uses 4 tanks per platoon, the Russians are experimenting with 5, Chinese use 3, Brits can't make up their minds, etc, I've seen very little information on why they choose to do things the way they do.

Another example - if one battalion has three companies, and another has 4, with the same number of men overall, does the 4-company battalion have an advantage or disadvantage or neither?
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Nice work OP, I appreciate that
I am so hungover right now

There's a blog called "Hurry Up And Wait" where a guy set out to recreate the Falklands in 28mm and built a hell of a force in the process over about three years. Sadly it came to a halt sometime the middle of 2014, after a series of posts complaining about ill-health. Hope the guy was alright. Definitely worth a look for any prospective Falklands gamer though.
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>>46424321

No simple answer to this question. What is better: two small somethings or one big something?

With three tanks in the platoon the workload for platoon commander is smaller. But for the company commander the workload might be bigger because of more platoons.

On the other hand a platoon of 5 tanks can be given tasks that 3 tanks could hardly do.
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>>46423882

Nice!
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>>46424959
I'd be interested in wargaming some of the Falklands stuff, given a chance. Probably as the Argentinians. It's an interesting conflict.
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>>46425523

Check Your 6: Jet Age has some really cool Falklands scenarios.
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>>46425042
or for the 3 vs 4 coys in a bn, 4 is more flexible but each individual platoon is weaker
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Any indication if current Caucasian dust-up has generated any wargame scenarios? Or from when these guys were fighting in the 90s?
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>>46425593
I'll have to see if I can find it.
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>>46425930
look in the folder named "Wargaming"
in our OP
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>>46420950
Well, if you compare them with those lovely Perrys's Crusaders they will look too poor in detail but almost every plastic out there shares that problem with few exceptions.

My room mate has the Norman Knights box and he likes them, it's a "cheap" way to build the bulk of the army.

Check this post about their "new" Dark Ages archers if you are interested in them:
http://psychosispc-themadhouseworkshop.blogspot dot com.es/2016/04/viking-archers-in-wip.html
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Lazy Sunday bump
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I was doing some spring cleaning today and I found 200 1/72 ACW minis hidden away in my stash. So what's everyone's favorite ACW rules set? I'd prefer full-scale, but skirmish is OK too. I've got Severed Union and Glory Days saved on my harddrive, and they seem pretty good, but with HWG, you can never really have too many rules sets. Thanks everyone.
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>>46430473
Longstreet seems to be the thing these days anon, check it out (in our ACW folder)
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>>46430473
I'm looking strongly at Longstreet (posted the rules and cards some time ago, should be in the folders), but if you fancy Black Powder, the ACW supplement just came out. Also, Rank&File could work too.

For skirmish, the Song of...something-something. Just leave some minis on separate bases.

Out of interest, which brand you got? I have tons of 1:72 ACW minis, basically almost every plastic box that got released (what I miss are the Airfix artillery and Union infantry, but other than those, I have most sets).
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The Dnepr 1943: Hitler's Eastern Rampart Crumbles (Osprey Campaign 291)

Against the wishes of Hitler, German forces under Erich von Manstein were forced to retreat following the failure of their offensive at Kursk in July 1943. The weakened force had only one possible refuge, behind the wide Dnepr River. The race to the natural defensive line was on, with the Soviets launching one of their largest offensives of the war–with over two million men on the move. Expert Eastern Front historian Robert Forczyk describes the dramatic four-month campaign that saw the Red Army not only succeed in crossing the Dnepr at multiple points, but also liberate Kiev, the capital of the Ukraine. Revealing new details about the largest Soviet airborne operation of the war and the increasingly desperate delaying tactics employed by von Manstein as catastrophic casualties mounted on either side, Forczyk charts the course of the battle that confirmed that the relentless Soviet advance westward could not be halted. Berlin would be next.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/v3ug1i1kdxi1qiu/Osprey+-+CAM+291+-+The+Dnepr+1943.pdf
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>>46430528
The sprues say IMEX, but I'm not sure the brand they were released under. From what I can gather, they're fairly old molds that got sold around a lot. They aren't the best minis in the world, but they were on clearance a few years back and I got em for a song.

And I'll definitely check out Longstreet. Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>46431005
Those minis are nice. They weren't reissued by anyone else I think, the Revell boxes had the rather similar Accurate minis in them.

Once painted, they all look better, that's my general opinion on 1:72 miniatures. Based, and in big formations, they look excellent. Best of luck mate.
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>>46425708
It happened literally less than 24 hours ago, calm your tits
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>>46415541
Anyone looking for good minis for Falklands, Gripping Beast offers some nice ones.

http : / / www grippingbeast co uk / Modern _ Forces . html
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>>46431793
In 1:72 the Matchbox (re-issued by Revell now) NATO Paratroopers are really excellent. Tho there are no Argentinians for them to fight, I've read somewhere that with some headswaps to US M1 helmets, you can make them from the same set.
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>>46431806
Thank you anon, I'll definitely check those out. I actually have a feeling I might even have a box of them lying around in my hobby room.
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>>46431824
No probs. I bought a box to use them as Cold War British paras in Europe, and their quality given their age is surprisingly good. Only thing I have problems with is the mortar, which should be switched for a better one.
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This post is me complaining about those fucking Bolt Action multipart infantry figures I bought. Waste of money.

What the actual fuck. I had an eye test, I have perfect vision, but I need a fucking microscope to put these things together.

Fuck this resin bullshit. Fuck it. I'm off back to my GHQ metal 6mm. This is bollocks. 28mm was always a mistake. Always.

Resin was a mistake. Plastic was a mistake. I don't care about the predictability of costing and the rest of it. Metal. Alway use fucking metal.
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>>46432001
If you don't want them, I offer refuge for abused and hated plastic figures.

They can be used for some wonky Fallout fun
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>>46432018
very tempted, if you can pay shipping from Japan. Where I am and you probably are not. I have stuck 5 together. This is fucking masochism. If I wanted this kind of experience from a hobby, I'd play 40k.

>inb4 rick priestly
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>>46432113
I dont even understand how you are struggling they are so straight forward to put together
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>>46432113
I'm in Hungary. Drop me a mail at [email protected] (temporary address).
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>>46432132
I'm more disappointed with the experience than anything. This plastic stuff is new to me. It's really disappointing to work with.

TL;DR old fag doesn't do plastic.

Go back to discussing wargames. I'm done venting about this shit.

>>46432192
Not worth the over head regarding postage. Not from nippon.
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>>46432275
Arite then, just don't throw them away. Gift it to a club or something.
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>>46432275
It's just confusing whats wrong with them. You clip them from sprue, you glue them together. Done. How is it difficult, especially compared to metal
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>>46432275
If you're in Tokyo, I'd be willing to take them off your hands.
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>>46432001
>but I need a fucking microscope to put these things together.

>I have perfect vision

Are you serious? Maybe you should check your eyes again.
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>>46425523
The Falklands War lends itself well to wargaming for a number of reasons. It was fought at usually the company level (although there were also squad- and battalion-sized actions) which are easy to replicate on a table. Unusually for a modern-era fight the technology is essentially First World War, with rifle and bayonet doing the bulk of the work, and most of the action occurred at relatively close quarters; so you avoid the usual dominance of firepower you'd get in, say, a contemporary "Fulda Gap" game. There's an interesting diversity of units - the Brits have SAS, Gurkhas, Paras etc while the Argies have their Marines and Special Forces as well as the long-suffering conscripts. There are a lot of resources from both sides, including numerous personal accounts that make for gripping reading.

Some time back there was a lad in the FoW thread who was working on a Falklands expansion for that set. I thought it was a pretty good fit, because the company-level scale worked well and you had the essential mix of support weapons and some combined arms. Otherwise I'd guess any moderns ruleset would do, although I'd really want something that captured the environmental aspect of the war: all that cold, soaking miserable South Atlantic weather had a massive impact on the campaign as a whole.
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>>46432540
Just chipping in to say ArmiesArmy did a kickstarter for some 15mm Cold War stuff a little while back, including Brits in cold weather gear that could suit nicely (in fact the reference image shown on the campaign page was taken in the Falklands).

Not on general sale yet but I think they're scheduled to get to that point within a month or two.
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Some plastic Samnites on the way from Victrix looks like, come in both armoured...
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>>46432641
...and unarmoured flavours.
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>>46432641
Can't say I like them. Something about the poses and general build feels really off about them, even allowing for typical 28mm miniature distortions.
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>>46432719
Unarmored ones are better, the armored guys look stiff such as top center
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>>46432001
>Literally just finished putting together BA american plastic box set
>Ive had cataract surgery
>No problems

Dude, go to a different optician.
Or develop some patience.
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Thinking about picking up some WWI French models (mid- to late-war). I've seen some around, but I'm interested in hearing recommendations from anyone that may have experienced them first-hand. 15mm or 28mm, preferably.
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>>46432901
If you don't mind metals, The Forgotten and Glorious Company of Art do the best 28mm in my opinion.

Slightly gormless faces notwithstanding.
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>>46433135
The faces are terrible though. Any minis with gas masks in their range?
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>>46433303
No but I think West Wind do head packs with Adrian helmets and gas masks.
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>>46433135

(Guy that first posted the question here)
I was on their site. The beardy heads aren't so bad, and I tend to like my Poilu to be... well, "poilu", so that's all well and good. Only thing about metals I'm ever cautious of is that they are more prone to breaking than plastics. Other than that they look pretty good. The bolts seem to have fused into the rifle but I'm not going to harp on them too much- I haven't seen anyone else manage to pull it off.
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>>46435261
scale? ruleset? link to gallery?
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>>46435376
AK47 Republic (hence 15mm) in Afghanistan
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=74687.0
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>>46435395
Can the system be used for other middle eastern insurgent forces EG the last few years type dal?
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>>46435410
It's freeform enough to suit any Third World conflict but including a Western regular force does tend to imbalance things.
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>>46435428
How many dudes does one stand represent? AFAIK AK-47 is not 1:1
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>>46435467
This is the scale reference from the 2E rules.
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>>46435534
given the real scale of these conflicts it seems more 1:1 to me
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>>46435395

Must... not... start... new... project...
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Were there any 3 way battles in ww2?
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>>46435777
I'll tell you what, anon; years ago I ran a Squad Leader game with three factions. It was set in Prague in May 1945, with Vlassov troops, an SS unit, and the local partisans all going head-to-head simultaneously. The partisans were wiped out but they were the only faction to achieve their victory conditions (blowing a bridge).
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>>46435777
Although they officially put aside their differences during the war, I think there were still scuffles between Nationalists and Communists in China whilst also fighting the Japanese.

I don't know if there were actually any three way fights but it seems the most plausible setting to play your own.
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>>46435593
would be a little strange seeing muj riding around with tank platoons and all that
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>>46435395
>One such company was Yellow-water Securities. This group had a long history of providing work for the regular military by getting itself into incidents that it couldn’t get out of and its rules of engagement were somewhere between ‘ad hoc’ and ‘non-existent.’ Yellow-water got around its poor reputation by changing its name a lot. Bluestream, Redriver, Goldshower and now Yellow-water.

That guy is hilarious
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>>46436911

That is legit amazing.
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Historynoob here with a quick question, what's the difference between an Universal Carrier and a Bren Carrier? I thought they were two names for the same thing, but the Fistful of TOWs manual lists them as two different things.
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>>46437057
They are the same thing, as far as I'm aware. Maybe they use 'Universal Carrier' to denote an unarmed one?
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>>46437057
Bren carrier was armed with Bren guns or with additional guns?
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>>46437057
Same thing basically. Tho when it was denoted as "Bren carrier", it usually had a Bren gun on a pole too. One Bren or Boys was mounted in the front by the way.
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>>46437057
>>46437085
Maybe they're referring to the earlier carrier used at the start of the war, before they switched to the UC hull.

They were mostly functionally identical if I remember correctly, though.
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>>46437085
>>46437114
>>46437120
>>46437131
Both the Bren and the Universl Carrier are listed as being active from '38 to '53 and armed with 7.7mm MGs, the only actual stat difference is in their carrying capacity (a platoon for a UC stand and only 1/2 a platoon for a Bren stand).

I think I'll just buy UCs and use them for both, maybe mod the "Brens" a little if anything comes up about what makes them different.

Thanks for the quick response guys, as always /hwg/ is the best thread on /tg/
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>>46432901
Rengade has some lovely minis as do scarab in 28mm, i'd say scarab is the more comprehensive of the two.

Also great war minis although the pics are tiny so I couldn't possibly comment.
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>>46439077
Renegade don't do late war french, neither do Great War.

Good if you want kepis, not so good otherwise.
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>>46439165
apologies I misread that as early war for some reason, brigade games does some late war stuff in 298mm, see the blog roundtreesworld by Sydney Roundtree.
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>>46439587
>in 298mm
Holy fuck.
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>>46439077
>>46439165
>>46439587

Thank you both for the suggestions and advice. Also, I had to do more searching to find Brigade Games' miniatures than I would have expected, but I could only find 1914 French. The Scarab miniatures are nice, especially since they cover quite a bit, even if their hands could envelop their own skulls.
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>>46439843
Also just remembered gripping beast does 28mm minis(not 298mm stronk) with separate heads http://wwwgrippingbeastcouk/French--category--239.html
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>>46440006

Well damn. I think I might like those the best out of everything that's been suggested to me- even if they're not a foot tall each. The fact that they let you select the heads is a neat idea, and I definitely appreciate them having a starter army (fairly cheap, at that).

(Picture related; the Gripping Beast 'French starter army deal')
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>>46415541
>>46423431
canvassing for opinion here:

Selling a group of minis and one rare mini to a fellow online, have discounted the group and the offer he made for the other mini (which I accepted) was lower than I could sell it for on ebay...now the guy wants free postage essentially despite uk postage being minimal.

On one hand I feel insulted n the other hand i'm happy to get rid of the job lot portion of the sale as they have literally been gathering dust for a while


What would you do?
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>>46442901
Don't give him free postage. The fee agreed is for the minis.
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What do you guys think of Flames of War?

I've never played a miniature war game before but I'd really like to get into it and I'm thinking of buying an army.
Is FoW a good place to start? Is there anything I should know about painting the figures before I try? Whats a good cheap/quick way to build an environment to play in?
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>>46443107
In terms of historicity it isn't the best and it has it's share of problems. But on the other hand it's pretty well established so you're more likely to find a game than you are with other WWII games.

For specifics you might want to try the FoW general >>46322097
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>>46443107
Not a fan of the system. Never felt quite right to me, a little too clunky to do what it does, how it does it. Also too much of the game-y side of things for my personal taste.
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>>46443107
I really like it, it's my main historicals game.

It is very much a game and not a simulation, although the results generally do match stuff you'd expect to see as results irl.

Of course, opinions differ, as >>46443162 and >>46443288 show.
I'd still say FoW allows you to be fully historically accurate if you want to and generally has list-building restrictions that keep things at a reasonable level of historical correctness if you don't want to go for in-depth researching.

If you want some more input (typically more biased in favour of FoW) I do recommend joining us at the FoW General.

As for its viability as a first miniature wargame?
I'd say it's pretty well-suited.
Things can be bought reasonably cheaply, especially if you go for stuff that's available in plastic. There's also a whole bunch of video tutorials and painting guides online.
As an added bonus, getting a decent paintjob at 15mm scale is in fact quite easily achieved with simple techniques, which is also really nice.
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>>46443107
FoW was my first game as well, and I can't think of a better one to start with. A simple rule set that still allows for fun games without feeling stupid, and quite a large fanbase so it shouldn't be too hard to find players. For your first game also, historical accuracy really shouldn't be a priority. That will come later.

And as for building terrain, I'd suggest just finding a club and playing there as generally they'll have tables. If you can't find a club, using polystyrene to form hills and just flat marine ply for plains, and buildings made out of balsa should suffice, and you can find plenty of tutorials throughout youtube and on blogs to make these. There is premade terrain, but its expensive as fuck.
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Im looking at Bolt Action and Im wondering, has anyone ever made a full force of Bersaglieri on bikes?
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>>46444329
Would they have to drive slowly so those fabulous feathers didn't come off?
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>finished painting my tonks
>finally get some sleep
>get up and go to work
>daaamn that's some fine weathering on that truck!
>i wonder who did it
>realized its a real truck

Guys i think its time to take a break from painting
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>>46444329
If you find any bersaglieri on bikes holla at me nigga. Warlord only makes them on foot. I have seen others on bikes but the scale was a fraction too small for my autism to handle.

Great choice of army btw
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>>46444692
>I have seen others on bikes but the scale was a fraction too small for my autism to handle.

What scale were those? Because I may just end up getting german bike models and then just adding some Warlord bersaglieri.
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>>46445069
20mm. Their heads look like golfballs compared to warlords 28mm
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>>46443107
I'd say check Battlegroup Kursk/Overlord/Whatever. From what I've read, it's a much better and historically satisfying system that lacks the gamey-ness of FoW. Tho you can use the same minis for both games, with the same basing, so you can switch whenever.
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>>46449690
>Printed in Lithuania, 2013
well that's random
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>>46449690
You have my attention sir!
What makes battlegroup less gamey than fow?
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Anyone here that has uses plastic weld?
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>>46452155
No artillery parks on a 4'x6' battlefield, lists are much closer to history, the random numer of orders, artillery strikes and so on and so forth...

Pleas bear in mind I haven't played either of them, it's just what I gathered from reviews and comparisons. Battlegroup is recommended by disillusioned FoW players who generally think FoW became Warhammer. It's more like an actual historical game instead of a game with historical miniatures.
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>>46432399
Are you in the area? I've chilled. Fire me off an email: [email protected]
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>>46449690
>>46452155
>>46453162
Battlegroup is indeed more simulationist than FoW, although in doing so it also makes things more complex in certain areas and introduces a significant amount of randomness with some of its mechanics.

I'd say that which one you prefer is down to personal preference, though FoW has both a larger community and an easier learning curve.
And was was said, you could always just use the minis for Battlegroup later if you base them for FoW.
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>>46453825
I enjoy Battlegroup a lot because it focuses on more than just spamming the few good units in any particular list. You got logistics, communications, resource management, etc. You have to decide what types of munitions to load into your tanks. You have to take ammo trucks to reload them or hope you don't run out. With limited orders you need to think about how to spend them. You even need to know when to pull units off the table.
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>>46453975
If your local FoW players were just spamming "the few good units" there must have been something weird with your local meta.
Over here, skewed, spammy lists generally lose to forces with a good spectrum of units operating in a combined-arms fashion.

The things you mentioned do indeed illustrate the difference in style between the two games well; where Battlegroup adds these simulationist factors, FoW just assumes stuff like that is running in the background but not immediately represented with specific rules and models.
FoW also has a non-linear ground scale; proportionally, long ranges on the tabletop represent even longer ranges irl, which means the action sort of "zooms in" when troops get closer to each other.
This is also why artillery is on the tabletop in the game; it makes things like counter-battery simple instead of needing special rules for that and forces you to defend your backfield.
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>>46454136
>Iwo Jima
>Air Force
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>>46453975
What size of force do you have in Battlegroup? Same as FoW (so roughly a reinforced company)?
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>>46454178
Can be played from squad level to the same as FoW (company? battalion? fuck me if I know).
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>>46454171

It's on Easy Army as an option. Is this bad? I haven't started really glueing anything together yet. Just a couple of test models (an SMG and a Rifleman with a Backpack I'll probably use as an engineer depending on how many packs I've got.)
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>>46454094
>FoW also has a non-linear ground scale

Plenty of wargames do. Even Battlegroup.

>FoW just assumes stuff like that is running in the background but not immediately represented with specific rules and models.

As do many wargames. In Battlegroup you actually have to keep your supply lines open or make calculated risks about your munitions. I've had games where I've made the enemy's Big Huge Tank(tm) useless by destroying his supply units and making him run out of ammo for its Big Huge Gun(tm). I've had games where I've loaded up on AP shells only to not face a single tank.

>>46454178
In most games I've played, depending on the period and faction, of course, a 1-2 platoons of infantry, a tank squadron and assorted special units and artillery is quite common.
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>>46454191
FoW games normally feature a company with some battalion-level (and sometimes up) support, although more swarmy/low-quality lists may actually allow you to field most of a battalion plus their support assets.
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>>46454197
Nah, i just stupid.
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>>46454191
>>46454295

Detail like ammo tracking is really unusual level of fine detail, that'll definitely limit the overall size of game.
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>>46454304

It's just, with US special rules giving Air Observers double efficacy then It'd be pretty silly of me not to take advantage you know?

How am I supposed to play US Marines anyway? Looking for assaults, always advancing and firing? Using the Tank as cover?
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>>46454471
>unusual level of fine detail

It's only for vehicles and I believe the general rule is that each vehicle has tenth of the ammo they actually had, rounded up or down depending on the situation. It's just to add some though into it and not just have every tank in the game sport all the munitions in unlimited quantities.

It can be a bit of a hassle if you got tons of vehicles, but often our large battles are between multiple players, so each person has only a handful of tanks. Unless you take a full tank company. And the number of commands you have also limits the usage of your tanks, so it's not like you're blasting full broadsides with them every turn.

At best I've fielded 5-6 vehicles that I've had to count ammo for and very rarely have I totally ran out. On the other hand, I've seen people who've fielded no tanks or people who've fielded only one or two heavy tanks even in larger games.
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>How am I supposed to play US Marines anyway?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJGC8MdAUJU&ab_channel=SNAFU!Blogspot
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>>46454982
>How am I supposed to play US Marines anyway?
Read
Watch here.
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Didn't they just release a book about the USMC in the WW1?

I mean, was it a new book or a re-release and has it been seen online yet?
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>>46458407
It's a new title in the Warrior line. Hopefully it will pop up in the next few days.
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>>46460891
Looking good! I'm slowly working my way through the Perry French Infantry box, got them all primed and assembled, maybe half painted.

Gonna order the mercenaries box at the end of the week, and then I'll have myself a pretty tidy Condottiere company, circa early 15th century.
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>>46461033
Thanks. Forgot to mention, they are Valiant (oversized) 1/72 figures.

Post pics of the Perry dudes.
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>>46462545
When I've done scans before I've done it this way

> Open Gimp (probably works on photoshop or similar too)
> File -> Create -> Scanner
> Scan page
> Export page as pdf
> When done use a pdf compiler (there's websites that do it for free) to merge them all together

It can be a bit fiddly to start with but once you get going it really smooths the process.
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>>46462545
the new rules are the most important parts, everything else has been covered better elsewhere
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>>46462634
The Epson printer/scanner I use has its own scanning software that automatically allows you to combine a series of scanned pages into a PDF file.

Depending on the scanner you have, that may or may not be an option.
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>>46463075
>Rifleman
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>>46463109
Out of curiosity, what WOULD be the correct term for a Napoleonic infantryman primarily armed with a non-rifled gun?
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>>46463231
Is that a mace on the left?
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>>46463558
Looks like it. Probably something quasi-improvised for trench fighting.
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>>46463558
TRENCH CLEARING
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>>46463576
Thats crazy. The staff next to it looks like a maul but also looks like the handle for the entrenching tool. The mace however is just mental
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>>46463171
Usually just infantry or Private Soldier for the British as far as I can tell.
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>>46463171
Shadow boxer. Cause no matter how hard he tries he'll never hit his target
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>>46463620
just check pic related
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>>46463715
>if I had been born 100 years before I was this would have been my life from roughly age 20 until (if I survived) 24.

Incredible if I'm honest.
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>>46463759
I spend that time slaying orks in WoW ;_;
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>>46463715
bloody hell. That is insane. 183 looks like some kind of video game stick grenade weapon where you stab them with the spike and that sets of a timed charge in the pineapple metal piece, Mind you I wouldn't be surprised if thats what it was
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are there any (ww1) miniatures with melee weapons like that?
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>>46463759
100 years ago last January the Military Service Bill passed and that would be it, I'd have gotten two months to enlist or attest or be automatically presumed to have enlisted.

Then shipped off to Flanders to probably never really come back, at least not in one piece.
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>>46463171
Musketeer? Line Infantry? Skirmisher?
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>>46463906
You, me and several hundred thousand unlucky sods would be sharing that fate.

Its a rather sobering thought, there but for the grace of god go I
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>>46464040
Shit, at least in the second world war there was a decent reason to fight, what with the whole 'stopping the Nazis' business.

In WWI the best answer to 'why do we have to fight' was 'because there's a war on'.
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>>46464040
>>46464089
Yep. Packed up and sent off to fight for no real reason and then if you returned home it was a case of "Right the wars over you're home now back to work!"
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>>46462545
Gut the book so the scans dont look god awful.
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>>46462730
What rules do you need?

>>46464230
na m8
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>>46464547
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>>46464134
>>46464089
Chin up lads, you've only once to die so it'll be over sharpish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YuZ6R8BYIg&ab_channel=OhWhataLovelyWar
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>>46463558
Yes indeed it is.
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>>46463759
>>46463906
>>46464040
>>46464134

Cheer up, lads! Here, have some funnies!
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>>46465225
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>>46464645
one of my favourite WW1 songs. There was a version on a documentary called World War One Apocalypse and it was so sombre and eerie cause it was just wailing voices with no instruments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NtvgutpKT8
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>>46464547
german units please.
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>>46465659
especially anything on Danzig militia.
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>>46465024

Well, hello there, third panel.
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>>46463231
>only 25 bullets

not enough lel
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has anyone tried MM's Colours & Guns napoleonic rules set?
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>>46463620
I hope it's a handle for the entrenching tool. Otherwise it's just a fat potting shovel.
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>>46463715
I'm sad there's no Smatchet hiding in there anywhere.
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>>46464230
>>46462545
Best way to do it is take it to a Staples or Kinkos, or what have you, have them cut out the binding, stick it on a feed scanner, and then spiral bind it. If you don't mind your book being changed, then you've got one you can open up to a given page and have lay nice and flat on the table and quality scans.
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>>46453812
I'm in the area, yeah. Sent you an email.
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>>46466598
Tell your children not to walk my way
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>>46460891
>acer
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>>46467823
>Implying you'll live long enough to use them
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Anyone who can link me to cohort names of Roman legions? Specifically for VII Claudia?
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>>46474750
I have never heard of cohorts having names beyond 1st 2nd 3rd etc.
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>>46474866
They must have had nicknames or something.
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>>46475553
Why must they?

And if they did, why would we know them? Official documents won't refer to the nickname and histories will rarely ever mention the specific actions of a single cohort and probably not their nickname (if they even knew it).
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Now I'd like to introduce you all to a game called Schwere Kompanie. I bought it about a month ago, and like it a whole lot. It feels a bit like ASL when playing games.

The game focuses on company level combat. I fought a battle recently with three American airborne platoons fighting off four german platoons and two tanks. You move around single squads or fireteams and vehicles. You are able to splitt of squads into different half-squads (or lmg- sniper- and smg-teams) and all that jazz.

I quite like it. I was asking myself if I should upload the rules here because that could mean that it could become a lot more popular and the guy who made it gets more customers. It could also mean that a lot of people get his PDF for free.

I decided to upload it anyway because I like /hwg/ a lot so here goes.

The rules are cheap (15 dollar, 13 euros) the amount of stuff you get is quite big (a quarter of a gig compressed) and has stats for units from all major nations during different eras and a lot of stats for smaller countries. Want to play The Netherlands? You can, Poland is in there, Belgium and Canada are aswell as Finland.

If you like the rules I'd advice you to buy them.
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>>46475749
I'm uploading the stats for German infantry so you guys get a feel how things are ordered. Keep in mind there are separate stats for Fallschirmjagers and SS-units.

You can buy the rules over here:
http://ritterkrieg.blogspot.nl/2015/07/schwere-kompanie-rulebook.html

Also not sorry for shilling so hard
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Sire, I bring grave news.

The Wargame General has been killed, slain by legions of shitposters.

In seriousness there has to have been crossposters, what do you guys think about this?
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>>46444692
is there any chance for plastic italians?
I really want a bersaglieri army...
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>>46476295
It seems to be a period we have to get through
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SAGA is too small-scale for my taste, are there any pitched battle 28mm dark ages games out there?

I'm talking about possibly a hundred + models on the table, something on the scale of the old WH Fantasy.
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>>46476766
Warhammer Ancient Battles, or perhaps Impetus?
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>>46476446
Hopefully in the future.
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>>46476794
>Warhammer Ancient Battles

Didn't know this was a thing. Tell me more please.
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>>46477034
Well it started as the historical version of WFB but definitely grew away from that and the 2E was really its own game. I can't really tell you that much from personal experience, but we do have the PDFs, so you can drive right in:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
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>>46477136
This is great, thanks!
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>>46477136
Do you have the Age of Arthur PDF? Can't find it in the mediafire links.

Which supp would be appropriate for an Anglo-Saxon player?
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>>46477414
>Which supp would be appropriate for an Anglo-Saxon player?
The Armies of Antiquity book there has a pair of lists for "Dark Age Britain and Ireland 75AD-800AD" and "Later Saxon Kingdoms 800AD-1100AD".

The Age of Arthur expansion was for 1E, and some of those are damn hard to find now. But I'll see what pops up in the usual places.
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>>46476295
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>>46473483
HP.

>>46476446
They aren't Germans so not really.
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>>46476446
Your best chance there is probably 1/72.
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>>46463416
Sandals?

And an Ipad?

Who says war never changes.
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>>46475553
>>46475620
They did have nicknames and we do know them because they did were mention in official documents.

Their nicknames were a very fucking big part of their identity and messing with them was taken as an offense against the whole legion.

It´s something extremely easy to find. Google around a little, anon. I think you can find that stuff even in Wikipedia.
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>>46432113
Hey anon,

If there's anything left over that the hungarian didn't want you can email [email protected] - I always need new regulators for my This is not a Test game.

>>46432719
They've been built entirely on computer, so, the body movements are weird. If it'd been done in-person, you'd be able to see that some of the angles just look unnatural.

>>46435534
Could you use these rules to recreate the brush war in Rhodesia?

I've always wanted to build a Solitare around trying to fight off the endless hordes from Mugabe.

>>46435862
There absolutely were skirmishes when they encountered each other, but, remember that Chiang Kai-Shek's power was in the Cantonese south, not the Industrial N where you'd see more of the communists.

Additionally, the battle-styles were different - KMT vs. Japan was actual battles, but, Japan vs. Communists was COIN.

>>46463416
Goddamn, still using the Hi-Powers? It's been nearly 100 years, surely the UK infantry can use something a bit more modern.
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>>46480588
It's been Glock 17s? for a few years now though really as it is pistols it hardly matters.
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>>46476295

I find a Wargames General attracting enough posters to reach critical shitpost mass hard to believe.
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Tangential question:

Who makes a good entry-level model kit for WW2 era axis tanks? A friend of mine desperately needs a hobby, but I don't think she's very handy with painting.

Currently looking at the "1/35 Tiger I Early TAM35216 TAMIYA" on HobbyAdvantage as it comes molded in dark grey plastic.
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>>46481048
>as it comes molded in dark grey plastic

Don't even think about it.

>entry-level model kit

Get a wargaming kit. Like one of warlord/italeri or rubicons 1/56 kits or maybe a 1/72 from PSC.

These are way easier to build for a beginner.

As for the painting: Why don't you offer your help and show her how it is done. Its not like you need super skill to make a tank look somewhat decent.
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>>46481168
It's complicated, but short answer is I'd like to give a time-consuming gift that she can do on her own.
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>>46481244
You mean, a wargaming kit would be to fast to build for your taste?

From my personal experience i can recommend Tamiya 1/48 kits. I gifted a M4 of this scale to a friend who never build a tank or any kit before and he managed to build it just fine. (And i did build plenty of these for my BA armies, and i can assure you the kits are great).

If it has to be 1/35, Zvezda is quite easy and affordable too.
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>>46481401
I ended up going with the 1/56 by Italeri you suggested earlier. The original run of Tigers, while historically significant, are butt-ugly. Probably better to get her feet wet with that one, and if she digs it, get the larger scale kits of tanks that don't look like a brick with a cannon on it.
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>>46480588
>If there's anything left over that the hungarian didn't want
We agreed that postage would not worth it overall.

And "The Hungarian". I like how it sounds. So Middle Easter European.
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>>46481482
Why not get her the sexiest tank of the whole war: Panzer 3. The Italeri kit in 1/56 just happens to be the newest/best one too.

But yeah, if she likes it you can always upgrade.
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>>46481663
Though it's a bit cliche, I do like the look of the Panther A best. Or if you want something with more meat on it, the King Tiger made by Porsche has a much more elegant design than the more functional design that beat it out.
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>>46481048
Btw bae I've got that kit sitting on my shelf and its pretty fiddly. Also theres a weird part where you have to cut felt tubes for the exhaust pipes and thats a bitch.

I suggest something like an M4 Sherman or a sdfkz 251 that you can just clip and glue and the more complicated parts will be out of sight so no need to worry if you mess up
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>>46481903
Porsche turret sure is sexy but for me it will always be the Pz3
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>>46482269
>Sherman
Negative, it has to be German for us (it's a heritage thing).

Of course I could always give her the
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>>46482468
Stupid sexy tank.
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>>46482479
fair enough then you could get her a tamiya 1/35 wespe

or give her your panzerfaust
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>>46482468
PzIII is probably my favorite German tank based purely on aesthetics.
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>>46482468

Six Panzer III F are actually the next thing I'm going to paint.
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>>46483849
Panzer II a cute
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>>46481564
Wait, so you'd not be willing to ship to Hungary, or are you not shipping at all?
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>>46463171
Also referred to as 'Foot'
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>>46479581
The legions have names, can't find anything about different cohorts having nicknames from a Google. If you can find links or sources I'd love to see them.
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>>46483893
Luchs for GOTTAGOFAST.
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>>46483893
I'm also a fan of the Hotchkiss H35/39
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