You've been contracted by GW to do a full Dark Eldar style redo for the SOB. They have demanded that they get at least 5 Special and Heavy Weapon options as they want to sell new basic sisters to existing players.
What do you give the SOB?
>>46006264
Lesbian nuns on motorcycle.
A repentia special vehicle of doom
A flying flamethrower
Adhering to the holy trinity of bolter, melta, and flamer (in the form of heavy flamer, heavy bolter, and multi-melta as well) I add a frag cannon and some kind of ordinance weapon (I'm thinking it incurs some kind of soul blaze effect that cooks crew inside a hit transport, or something like that)
Of course, they also get a heavy suit that can slow and purposeful themselves about the field.
>>46006264
Biker Sisters with lances. Gotta hit them bretonnia feels.
Rework Acts of Faith. Either they're one use but don't require a leadership test or they're multi-use and do. Otherwise they're just shittier versions of guardsmen orders.
Celestians are no longer "close combat specialists" give them a role somewhere near sternguards with ammunition choices. Since they're sisters, incendiary ammunition and anti psyker bullshit. The condemnor boltgun was a cool idea but basically useless, give a celestian squad an ammunition type that does the same thing and call it a day.
Sisters are best known for being able to incite mobs of expendable zealots within the local populace. Give them access to tarpit units of imperial cultists with the ability to firebomb themselves for maximum allah ackbar.
They're the militant arm of the Ordo Hereticus for the emprah's sake. The should be designed to fuck over psykers. New commander traits for: 1. any time you deny the witch, the caster suffers perils. 2. Flamers and heavy flamers now have Purging Flames: if a psyker is caught in the template, force a perils roll. For any psyker removed from play this way, deal 1d3 more hits to other models inside the template.
SOB squads get grenade and rocket launchers, as usual with incendiary options.
Airmobile options for fucks sake.
They have literally no superheavy options. Just put tracks on a cathedral and fill it with flamethrowers. Done. How fucking hard was that?
>>46006264
larger tits, more objectification. Following that thought make them the Emperor's brides again.
>>46006594
>>46006746
I want you to understand the full significance of my statement. Bikes are really the dumbest shit in the entirety of the IoM. I don't like you or your opinions.
>>46006825
Lighten up. Everyone else has them, and the girls are really hurtin for fast attack options.
>>46006746
Maybe a giant walking statue of the emprah with melta-cannons for eyes?
>>46006264
>Special Blank Squad
>Phospor and blessed plasma heavy weapon
>Sneaky sneaky sisters or SOB deathcult or sect
>New melee unit armored and armed with power weapons, preferably power mauls.
>New heavy tank armed with a very big melta-cannon
I'd give them a variant on imperial launchers.
Single shot disposable tubes with Shredder rockets. Only 1 shot but the entire squad gets them rather than a single dude. They don't get Melta or Krak as it would make them too good at long range anti tank. So their solution to aircraft is 'A unit raises launchers' and hope they have more units with them than the enemy has planes.
Maybe give then an Inferno rocket version too that is used by imperial zealots. A horde of brave, brave idiots with BS 2, Autopistols and 1 shot rockets.
>>46006939
>Giant Emprah Walker
Does it constantly spout lines from the imperial truth and thoughts for the day like Liberty Prime?
>>46006965
>Sneaky sneaky sisters or SOB deathcult or sect
I think the Relic Hunter SOB Orders could easily fill that role. Infiltrate, Move Through Cover and access to some otherwise unseen relics. Like Archeotech Pistols and such.
>>46007064
I was thinking more of a battlefield role.
Like Ork Commandos. With tits and flamers.
>>46007190
Also possible.
I'd really like to see the non-militant orders show up more with tricks.
Like Famulous going full Bene Gesseret and having people charge them make disorganized charges as they are stunned and shocked by the sheer force of words being leveled against them.
>>46006264
Skimmer gun platform held in the air by dozens cherubims. If it arrives from reserve, you can reroll failed Acts of Faith this turn.
Orbital strike setting small area on fire. All models passing or standing in this area take Heavy Flamer hit. Missile warheads look like statues of saints and martyrs.
I feel like the faith system should be removed. Instead the whole army should have some kind of "light for the Emperor" style rule then all the other sisters should have an additional rule to reflect their role. You know, like how all the other factions work.
It would make the whole army better and you won't have any of these cases where your unit will only be good for one turn or you are paying for battle sisters to be faithful but they will never use their ability due to you using all your points on other better units.
Faith points are a thing again.Acts of Faith are not the stupid "once per game" bullshit, each/most units have their own act ,and each act have own Faith point value.
You have to roll 5+ for each Faith point used in an act. Sister Superior gives +1 to roll,Simulacrum lets you reroll. You also get +1 if another sister's unit died within 6' of the "casting" unit. Does not stack
Act's are own unit only.
You can sacrifice some points and use them to dispel Psychic Powers.
Sisters are now the durable shooty midrange army with some heavy hitting units.
Special Weapons will be:
>Storm bolter
>Melta
>Flamer
>Assault Crossbow that causes Perils of the Warp if wounds psykers
>Tri-barreled shotgun S6 AP4 that overwatches at BS2.
Heavy Weaponry:
>Heavy Bolter
>Heavy Flamer
>Multi Melta
>Frag cannon from Deathwatch,possibly with napalm throwing mode
>not a weapon per se,but some kind of Holy Hymns speaker. When the unit carrying this doesn't move,their Acts of Faith are either aura 6' or augment spell that can be used on friendly unit within 18'
As for new units:
HQ
>A sister's chaplain. Gives you zealot,has Rozarius etc. She has 3 Act's of Faith-one gives her aura that gives all units 6' of her +1BS,other will give them +1 WS. The last one can only be used if a sister's unit died this or last turn. It consumes all the Faith Points and summon immortal angels from Dawn of War for each point used. They can immediately charge,and can't die but they fade away on the end of your turn
>Church maintance mechanicus guy.Can give buffs to flamers
Troops:
>Loyal cultist,perhaps female only. They carry ordinary firearms and cannot use Acts of Faith
>Flagellants. Melee version of cultist,can kill d3 of them a turn to generate a Faith Point
Fast attack
>Flyer from dawn of war.It's embarrasing we still dont have them
>Sisters on mechanical horses. They can equip either power lances or any of the special weapons.
No ideas for Heavy Suppor or Lords of War but I like >>46007252
>>46007293
What I'd do with faith powers is have every unit have a rule and THEN have independent characters have a rule they give any squad they are with.
So a Cannoness can inspire her squad with Favored Enemy or Hit and Run. Make the Independent Characters a bit supportive to make up for the fact they are never going to be Marines in a brawl.
Also: Give the god damn independent characters a half-decent ranged armoury. A woman who's BS 5 and WS 4 should not have a heap of fancy melee weapons but nothing better than a stormbolter for ranged.
Decurion bonus where every unit gets to AoF every turn.
>>46007293
Plus it makes the army a thing you can pitch at the little Jimmys (and Janes) of the world.
>>46007472
Yeah. A complex faith system really isn't something you can't sell to everyone. Especially players new to TT in general.
>>46007298
>Loyal cultist,perhaps female only.
I don't see a point of making them female only. GW are going to release new necromunda miniatures so I would imagine they would want to encourage people to use them in 40k.
>They carry ordinary firearms and cannot use Acts of Faith
Makes the unit sound kinda dull and pointless (you could just take guardsmen instead). I would give the leader the war hym special rule(pic related) and give them the same wargear option they had last time (eviscerators and normal special weapons).
>>46007833
They'd have to be female, no frateris Militae allowed to the ecclesiarchy any more, priests are the exception. Vraks happened because a Cardinal thought that with some extra bodies he could cleanse the Eye, and eventually was corrupted by an alpha legion sorceror. That said, its not like GW has never played fast and loose with established lore before
>>46007936
The ecclesiarchy is not allowed to have men under arms.
They are perfectly within their rights to have male staff in other capacities. They are allowed to arm their priests (to protect themselves of course) and they're allowed to whip up a civilian militia to a fervor and point them at the moral outrage if the day (be it heathens or orks).
So yeah, dirt cheap, WS-bad, BS-shit rabbles are totally cosher, if you're still including ecclesiarchical stuff like priests and fellangents, that is.
... which they might not, going forward. A lot of the shade GW throws at the sisters in fluff has actually been towards the ecclesiarchy and religion in general.
>>46007472
>>46007494
Casual nerddom has an entire subset that will buy sisters just because they're girls, their rules need to incentivize people who play the game in order to secure them in the long term. A good faith system shouldn't be too complicated, but also shouldn't be psychic powers with the serial numbers filed off.
>>46007298
>>Sisters on mechanical horses. They can equip either power lances or any of the special weapons.
I like it. All glossed up cyborg hoses like from vampire hunter D?
>>46007936
I don't see anything about frateris militia being exclusively female in the fluff.In fact we have male Flagellants and penitent engines.
One order in the Ecclesiarchy has male guards. The fluff states that the spirit of the no men under arms is preserves as their numbers are small .
>>46006746
>Biker Sisters with lances. Gotta hit them bretonnia feels.
>Women
>Bretonnia
Fuckst off, knave.
Email them that this is a stupid fucking idea
I'd add Astropaths to the army for the Psyker role. Astropaths are Soul-Bound to the Emperor Himself and the SOB serve on the black ships so they are likely to have interaction with each other.
Make them decent pyskers with a lot of innate protection vs perils and a limitation of 'Only telepathy'.
