>>45779118
>its only interesting because it's novel. if adam was good instead of shit you'd put him in the tried and true side of things instead of the "fun" box.

Nasir is still interesting to me. So is, say, Cerebral Imaging. And they're not exactly new IDs anymore. Still play them. Note also that "fun" and interesting are two different things. I have a lot of fun playing Reina. I would be lying if I said I found her one of the most unique and interesting IDs.

Also: I don't think Adam is bad myself.

>>45779142

It's weird and kinda amusing to see people go from "Anarchs are shit" to "Anarchs must be nerfed into the ground" in a matter of months.

Destroying ICE is too easy and cheap. There should be more negative side effects to the runner when used.

Okay guys, I've been running Morning Star in my Adam deck but now I wonder : should I switch to Battering Ram, which would let me change my yog to a Gordian Blade ?

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Anyone build anything interesting with pic related?

Been looking at it for a few days, and I really want to play it again, but I have a hard time going past what I think are design issues of the card.

Playing it basically means playing Lamprey alongside. I would have loved Diwan to trigger it, but we'll have to do without - truly a missed opportunity. Things is, in most decks where I play it, putting Lamprey on the table is going to be enough to make the corp want to purge. Adding Ixodidae makes the purge a certainty.

Fester seems like an interesting option at first, but then in a headlock situation it amounts to nothing.

Populist Rally looks like it could be an interesting addition, preventing the purge and giving you at least full turn and a half of use for Ixodidae.
Add a pile of DDOS and I guess you can have some incredibly aggressive early game.

>>45786151

What makes you want to switch? Is it more a "getting rid of Morningstar as it's not pulling it's weight relative to cost" thing, or more a "I really neeed Gordian" thing? Or a bit of both?

>>45786448
It's more a "I probably need a Gordian" situation since i can be locked out of a server by 2 Lotus Field.
But then, I really like Morning Star and it's been really useful against NEXT Silvers, Ashigarus and Elis.

>>45786709

I'm going to get hit by truck for daring the mention... How about Force of Nature?

If I remember your set up, you have two Mutlithreader and two Datacucker... Costly but might not break your back...

>>45786448
>Fester seems like an interesting option at first, but then in a headlock situation it amounts to nothing.
Funny thing, Ixodidae actually gets trashed before Fester triggers and you get Ixodidae credit. So really, Ixodidae only works with
a) Lamprey
b) Vamp
c) Siphon

The positive side?
You can Vamp/Siphon with Lamprey and Ixodidae installed and gain 2 extra credits instead of just 1.

>>45786969

I was more thinking along the lines of if the corp purges for Lamprey + Ixodidae, at least it has to pay two credits, that's two HQ run I don't have to make for the purpose of keeping the corp poor.
Problem being, in a headlock situation it generally won't have the two credits anyway when purging.

>>45786930
IMO Force of Nature is just a worse Keymaster. Worse because it breaks subs in sets of 2 for 2 credits, and have a hefty install cost.
If FoN had strength 2, it would be his equal in most cases, and still be a credit short of Gordian Blade.

Looking at it. It's almost like Crypsis, but without the virus token requirement.

>>45787374
>IMO Force of Nature is just a worse Keymaster

Definitely is (though if anything, the *real* killer is the five cost if you ask me), but it's one influence.
The only question is: will it do the job? If it allows you to play everything else at an acceptable level without crippling you, it might be worth it.

Probably won't - there's a reason that thing isn't played that much if at all. But no harm in at least considering the option.

Totally unrelated, but... Security Nexus in Anarch?

Just occurred to me and I love the idea: if you Drive by with Black Guard installed, the corp must pay to rez the card before it's trashed.

>>45788088
Yes, and even better, if it's unique (IE Jackson) and there's another Jackson rezzed. Both are trashed!

Stupid idea of the day:

Blackguard Silhouette deck with a Personal Workshop + Pheromones shell.

>>45788479
It's better than my idea of badpub crim. Or when I tried to Eureka the Blackguard with Rolodex, Oracle May, and motivation.

>>45788479
Now that I think about it, I played a CT deck with Pheromones and PW. It's Awesome. Like Nasir tier of installing things free.

>>45788692

Hey, bad pub crim is a really, really cool idea. Just hurting for cards for now. With all the anti bad pub on offer right now, one can hope other factions than Anarch are going to get something off that pie.

>Or when I tried to Eureka the Blackguard with Rolodex, Oracle May, and motivation.

Oh lord don't tempt me like that... now I want to try that.

Rolodex is such a weird card... I kinda see what they wanted to do with it, but can never find the right pace/timing for it.

how to trash ice in criminal?

>>45789381

a) Kraken
b) Import from Anarch
c) Try playing to crim's strength and go derez instead I guess. Though it's kinda disheartening to see the explosion in ICE destruction when you see the stagnation in ICE derez options. That and the fact that the cornucopia of Anarch anti-econ options kinda makes them better at that game too.

Leela's ability offers an interesting middle ground, I guess.

>>45789495
What to import from anarch cultery are influence costly, parasites also

>>45789553

Question is going to be: what do you want to trash, and why?

Parasite is great at dealing with low str/high sub ICE. It's been your got-to solution for that kind ever since core.
Cutlery can help you deal with some specific breaker issue (if you have a breaker that's a bit too costly, or say, like with Rex got limited use, trashing ICE can be a desirable solution).
I find Kraken can be nice if you're heavy on bypass, forcing the corp to get that meddlesome second or third piece of ICE off a server and giving you bypass access again.

>>45786108
It costs money and memory.

>>45787536
i tried a Reina Nexusn but I underestimated card draw an econ. You really need loads of them.

>>45793672
About Reina, every time I try to make a deck, it's just 50% better if I swap to RR. Destiny?

>>45794198
RR ?

>>45794388
Reina Roja

I just realized The Masque is a Natural runner. Is it me or this is weird ?

>>45794744
Why would it be weird

>>45795158
because the image looks like it's a digital or something ?

>>45792449

And cards and clicks and runs. Thing is a lot of people seem to think the costs aren't balanced between sides and the runner comes on top way too often.

I do think there's too much ICE destruction options right now (Immolation Script, Kraken, the Cutlery set, Parasite, Run Amok, Apocalypse). Just compare with derez (Crecentus, Emergency Shutdown, Muertos Gang Member).
One solution the corp would have is very specific low-cost but costly to trash ICE, but it's hard to find ones that fit agaisnt the runner's angle. I mentioned Lockdown in a previous thread, and sure it can do work against those Faust decks if you've built your strategy accordingly, but you're reaching koala levels of specialization, with all it entails.

>>45793672

How much econ could be replaced by Link? How much Link *did* you play.

I'm interested.

>>45794198

She's your ID. Simple as that.

>>45795332

Well, Whizzard looks like he has a mechanical hand, but then he's a natural, I guess we can work something similar with The Masque, given the name: everyone knows that digital avatar, but no one has ever seen who's behind it.

>>45795332
>How much econ could be replaced by Link? How much Link *did* you play.
I played with 4 links thanks to 3 Rabbit Holes.
Your econ pack should quite big though : Sure Gambles, Career Fair, Daily Casts, Liberated Account and Underworld Contact might do the trick, but don't be shy to include more if you have some deckspace left.

>>45795987
Obviously was meant for >>45795544

>>45795987

So the biggest issue would be install econ then, I assume?

Need to give it a try I guess.

But Blackguard first!

>>45795544
>Whizzard looks like he has a mechanical hand
I think he's using a Power Glove - not because it's useful for him, like Comet, but because he's a massive nerd.

Yeah Ice destruction sees much more support than derezing, which is a shame - I don't thing the designers (at least not while Mumbad was being made) realise quite how strong it is - even above Faust, I'd say it's one of the biggest reasons for anarch dominance - if they had to use Faust again and again on beefy ice, it'd be a lot less good, but all they need to do is break a few times

For sollutions to ice trash being king, I'd like to see ice (or conditional operations that bestow the effect on ice) that's either untrashable, or that "explodes" if trashed while installed, doing damage or trashing programs

>>45797763
Untrashable ICE like Architect is a pain and promotes derezzing effects over plain destruction. But the idea of exploding ICE is just too awesome to let it go pass.
"If the runner trashes this piece of ICE, he takes 2 tags"
"If the runner trashes this piece of ICE, he suffers 2 net damage"
"If the runner trashes this piece of ICE, he trashes one installed program"

>>45799652
Exactly - I'm not sure if it'd be better as a pure ice effect (which might see the Eli/Architect/Tollbooth problem of them being everywhere) or as something you can give to ice - which is less easy to use, but makes a lot of ice more viable.

Hell, at this point I'm tempted to say both - a set of exploding ice for all factions, plus either a neutral or a faction set of Condition operations: with the text: "if the runner trashes host ice, [effect]"

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Summer tournament prizes is live.
I like everything about it. That Bank Job illustration, and Hayley is basically my favourite Runner ever (I play a lot of Big Rig).
Apparently the token set are power tokens, not pictured.

>>45801182
Also notice how the guy in the background of Bank Job is Mr White, from Android Infiltration.

>>45801182

The art team keeps outdoing themselves.

>>45799652
>>45797763

I'm in love with the explosive ICE idea, I must say.

>>45799459

You make me realize I've played that card in one deck only... into the Blackguard it goes. If I have to go crazy, might as well go *crazy*.

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>>45801562
Interesting bit about Social Engineering and Blackguard. While Expose helps to find the best target for SE, Blackguard nullifies this, but ensures that the ice is rezzed (well, unless he's broke).

>>45802264

But then playing Silhouette you can get to know which ICE is which *before* you install Blackguard.

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Going crazier still with Blackguard:

Make a pic related run on HQ with Silhouette. When the run is successful, expose a piece of glace on another server, Blackguard forces the rez, Running Interference doubles the cost - as RI doesnt specify the server, just that ICE is rezzd during that run.

With all that jank if I don't make something nice happen, I'll cry.

>>45804362
Sadly that doesn't work. Players can always refuse to pay additional costs. This is true for the runner (he must steal all the agendas, but can refuse to pay the 4c from NAPD contract) and the Corp (Blackguard expose Archer, corp refuses to forfeit).

>>45804480

Damn it! I knew I was forgetting something.

Probably for the better, that deck is getting ridiculous.