What's to stop a cloaked pirate ship with a high-powered transporter system from lying in wait until a ship shows up, and transporting its crew into space?
>>45468250
Depends on a lot of things, but in Star Trek ship shields stop beaming to/from it.
Pretty sure that in Star Trek at least cloaking devices preclude the operation of things like transporters due to power consumption and emission dampening. Transporters also can't pierce shields it seems, when that's pertinent.
Beyond that I'm gonna go with an inexplicable sense of fair play among the space pirate community.
Fiction notwithstanding, I'd say its because most criminals/pirates tend to be uneducated and poor do-it-yourselfers so the tech skills needed to really run high end military technology are uncommon. Also, cloaking devices and military transporters are not really off the shelf items. How many real-world pirates have antiship missiles and can use them, and how many have Zodiac boats with outboard motors and AK-47's?
That being said, in the aftermath of a major war where one or more major powers collapsed/pulled back in some way - I can see a crew with a few ex-military people and some salvage tech trying to make a buck or two. However, after the forces of law and order move into the region, such a pirate gang would likely be target #1.
Read the WEG Star Wars d6 "The Far Orbit Project" for a take on a similar type of vessel.
>>45468250
Transporter systems (depending on your universe) might require a lot of calibration, some sort of device located on the person being transported or a number of other factors the prevent it from being viable.
An in-universe rationalization for why this is impossible might simply be because it is/was a possibility, and because of that measures have been taken to prevent it from happening. You could expect this to happen a few times back when transportation systems were being introduced, but military and subsequently civilian regulations required manufacturers/corporations to find a way to block this from ever occurring again.
After all, a space ship is a big investment, and it's an investment worth protecting. Insurance companies (both business, possession and life) businesses and private owners will push for a solution to things like this since it represents massive payouts and profit cuts.
It might even be the case that ECMs to prevent teleporter ganks is one of the most important parts of a running ship. Or it could be that ECMs have developed so far that breaching the systems that prevent a vessels from being tele-ganked is near impossible and thus people have just given up on trying.
Basically if it's something that COULD happen in universe there should be a question as to why it hasn't already been done, and if that isn't adequate then you have to think that maybe it DID happen already, and if so then why is it allowed to CONTINUE happening. Eventually you'll hit a point where it starts to work itself out, for example.
>Why can't people telegank?
Well, I think they can
>Why hasn't someone done it before?
Well in this setting 'long range' teleportation (to a planet and back to a ship in orbit) is doable and commonly available, so it probably should have happened already
>Why is it allowed to continue happening?
I don't know, it seems like something people would try and prevent
>How can it be prevented?
A special device onboard the ship.
>>45468250
Heisenberg Compensators.
>>45468250
Mainly that teleporters/transporters need to lock onto something to beam it out.
Which would necessitate active scanning, the bane of remaining stealthy. If the ship they were facing couldn't detect that, they wouldn't even need a cloak to sneak up on them.
>those hideously misshapen foam or rubber moritas
>poorly done fake "Death From Above" tats
0/10, would not drop with.
>>45468250
The sheer mass of their uncompressed .jpgs would warp spacetime and give them away.
>>45468734
this seems the most plausible. passive sensors would tell you where the ship is, but to lock on to a life form would require an active sensor, which would probably use too much power to remain effectively cloaked.
where would you know where the enemy crew is?
Or even if you do, they have to be stable in the position for a short while.
>>45468250
Massive heat buildup. A cloaking device isn't just fooling the eyes. Visuals mean nothing in space, friend. It's all about your energy signature. And while you're cloaked, you can't vent all the heat your ship makes, so everything starts broiling quick.
>>45468734
This fucker hit the head on the target.
Also realistically you can't have a cloaking device in space. Piss easy to detect engine thrusting.
>>45468250
Not having retarded writers for one.
>>45468250
Nice pic. My boner wants to know more.
>>45468250
Power limitations. To have both cloaking and teleport systems (and their supporting systems like heat venting system for cloaking and precision sensor arrays for teleportation) you'd need two or three ship's worth of reactors. More reactors mean your ship's more bulky and harder to maneuver, and decidedly more explosive. If you decide to have only one reactor and switch power between the cloaking and teleport, the downside is you're going to be seen when you switch from cloak to teleport.
So why not make a superfast, heavily armored ship with borer head(s) to slip under enemy shields, punch through their armor, and deliver boarding crew into their ship instead?
>>45468250
COMPUTER, activate emergency command hologram!
>>45470119
Because at the speed spaceships travel, you'd likely just destroy each other
In the setting my group is playing, teleportation only works from pad to pad so whilst boarding the enemy vessel is doable* teleganking isn't.
*If both are turned on, you have their codes and a stable connection.
>>45470314
I don't get it. Wouldn't 7 be the next in line for command over the back-up Doctor?
>>45468770
>not complaining about the lack of trigger discipline
0/10 do not want to know more
>>45471385
I forget the plot of the episode, but basically everyone was incapacitated and only the hologram could assist
>>45468876
>>45468866
I was impressed when The Expanse managed to pull off steath ships in space without setting off my autism: they're using various stolenand/or purchasedtop of the line prototype hardware that the two major military powers just finished R&D on. So they can go dormant and drift on an intercept course to hide from passive sensors, and when they're under speed no one expects their vaguely civilian transport-looking drive signature to suddenly flip around and launch a spread of next-gen military torpedoes.
Like >>45468663 says, no one has seen or has any reason to expect their tactics and thus they have the element of surprise.
>>45471385
technically 7 isn't an officer.
>>45471466
It's a fucking piece of plastic. Get your trigger discipline autism out of here.
>>45468250
Their own teleporters generating interference and maintaining transponder lock on the crew
This is why you can't teleport during combat maneuvers, its necessary the teleportation system remain on defensive countermeasure to prevent both offensive tp and boarders.
>>45468250
Star Trek has a pretty explanation where their shields interfere with being beamed up / down.
>>45468250
Man these two look like massive sluts. The one on the left has had so many hundreds (not even a hyperbole) of cocks cum on her face that she doesn't get a lot of sleep no more.
>>45472300
Projecting, the post.
>>45472368
Joke's on you, I actually know them from /cgl/. They really are huge sluts and not even talented really.
>>45468250
>What's to stop a cloaked pirate ship with a high-powered transporter system from lying in wait until a ship shows up, and transporting its crew into space?
Most beam technology isn't that fast and accurate. Like, SG-1 Asgard teleporters could manage, but only with a whole lotta PLOT behind it since AFAIR only Daniel ever managed to randomly beam someone up without minutes of preparation or the use of beacons.
Never mind that shields prevent it, if badly since ring transporters apparently don't firewall their ports.
>>45472499
Generally speaking, the main draw of a slut is her sluttiness, not her talent.
I will tolerate subpar frills in a girl who is sucking my cock, dude.
>>45468250
>>45468663
>What's to stop a cloaked pirate ship with a high-powered transporter system from lying in wait until a ship shows up, and transporting its crew into space?
Nothing, but if you have a high-powered device that's able to reassemble people from atoms or copy them from signals or whatever your settings version of it is, you don't fucking need piracy, you just use the device to duplicate everything you ever want.
99% of sci-fi is absolutely retarded when it comes to using it's gadgets to their full potential.
>>45472289
That's true but don't forget most of the time they have their shields down until the fight actually happens.
It's not actually a bad idea. However, they never were able to use transporters because it would affect the cloaking system. By the time you uncloaked fully, if the captain is at least intelligent, the shields would be up.
Everything in Star Trek has some kind of damn downside and/or counter. Well balanced.
>>45468250
Space is too big to be a passive hunter
>>45472829
Star Trek is post scarcity for many things, but it intentionally shows that there is still war, conflict, destruction. Even if everything is theoretically replicable, it takes less time and energy to steal it, and you have citizens at home who want a planet to move so their kids can have more space. Then you have ideological conflicts, old grudges, and plain maliciousness. People will still have reasons to introduce entropy into other people's matter, even if they can 3D print cheeseburgers.
>>45468536
how do you think space pirates are created?
criminals dont just get space ships.
like in the golden pirate era,they had ships because they were ex-navy.
>>45473707
>even if they can 3D print cheeseburgers
Those damned juicy Advent Burgers.
>>45468250
The same reason real world pirates don't use their nuclear submarines to conduct piracy.
They don't have them at all because one of them is worth double the GDP of their country. Even if they had one they'd need a trained crew to use and maintain it as well as the logistics infrastructure to support its continued use.
If they had access to everything they need to actually utilize it they'd be a first world Navy.
>>45473977
And if they somehow obtain a nuclear submarine they would ransom it or sell to some other country it and live like kings.
>>45468250
To transport something, you need it's location. In Star Trek, the Enterprise's crew's communicator badges double as homing beacons. When they give the order to come aboard, the transporter operator just homes in on the beacon.
Unless the pirates can read the signals from whatever homing device their target uses or otherwise get the positions of where the crew is, they can't transport them out.
Further, transporters have limits on how much they can transport at a time. There was an episode of TNG where the enterprise evacuated some colony and even with all of the transporters on the ship working it took a day or more to get everyone (probably 100 or so people and some minor livestock) aboard.
If you did this to a ship, they're going to raise their shields fast as hell or otherwise jam your transporter.
>>45474242
You'd literally die trying to operate a nuclear submarine if you weren't trained specifically to do it.
People have been killed trying to clean parts of submarines because everything inside a submarine is trying to kill you. Especially steering and diving components and the radar.
>>45472811
you are the man.
also, why has no one brought up worst girl's dented rifle? bitch can't into maintenance...
>What's to stop a cloaked pirate ship with a high-powered transporter system
Shields.
>>45472499
Any cosplaying female is a huge slut. The entire reason they do it is to get attention which they want because they are sluts.
>>45472222
Its like you don't even have trigger discipline with bananas, water pistols and glue guns.
>>45475777
>bananas
Guilty
>>45475728
No, not all of them.
Objectively - some of them are literally landwhales who will never get the dick no matter how hard they try.
And subjectively - there's lots of cute pure girls on /cgl/ too who only have one or zero boyfriends.
>>45476144
>implying I won't give land whales the dick
>>45476180
You are an absolutely deplorable person...!
>>45470666
It's about relative speeds though. If you can get them when they're sub-light and hit them going at a moderate speed relative to theirs, you wouldn't have a problem (if your ship was designed for it, at least)
>>45468250
high powered transporter systems take longer to charge up than shields. and you'd effectively be decloaked
assuming star trek of course.
>>45476144
I think you undervalue the power of a vagina, even fat girls fuck around the same as average girls, isn't like there isn't legions of thirsty guys with very low or non existent standards to wet they dick.
>>45468250
Because it would make for an incredibly boring story and game.
>>45476213
>having heretosexual intercourse with a consenting, adult woman (who is even legitimately female) is deplorable
