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>>48281767
>Saga Wars Edition
Oh boy here we go.
>>48281812
That will teach you to slack off when making generals
>>48281655
>Okay, she's good with mechanics... but how does she know how to fly a space freighter like an ace? ANH had the throwaway line about the T-16 and whomp rats, which gave a serviceable explanation for why Luke was a skilled pilot. That's just one example of the failures in TFA's script and, by extension, Rey's character.
Rey has a flight simulator she salvaged and set up in her AT-AT home. Basically she spent her childhood playing video games in a machine designed to teach you to fly. If it's a Rebel flight simulator it likely includes freighter class since a lot of their warships were repurposed commercial vessels.
That's from a canon short story, the novelization of TFA, the TFA Visual Dictionary, and I'm pretty sure she mentions it in the movie after she and Finn destroy the TIEs but they're hyper excited and talking over each other so it's hard to tell.
She basically knows the Falcon's setup because she's one of the scavengers Unkar Plutt hired to do modifications for him, but she'd never flown it and indeed nearly crashes it several times early on. Actually she does hit a few things. As for flying through a ship she picked a derelict she knew from scavving that was open enough to accommodate the Falcon. Her exceptional piloting skills at the end of the fight, as well as her other maneuvers, are actually an early sign that she's Force sensitive without telling us ahead of time like they did with little Anakin pre-Podracer scenes. You can get this when both she and Finn are chattering their amazement at how their moves synced together to defeat their enemies. They don't know why but the reason is the Force was being her - subconscious - guide. We already know Rey (and perhaps Finn too) were awakening to the Force on Jakku because that's what Snoke was talking with Kylo Ren about. Awakening was his exact word, too.
Not saying it's a well done scene but this is what they were trying to do. JJ is a hack.
>>48281859
Eh, maybe back when I namefagged but I don't post much in /swg/ anymore, mainly just lurk. Didn't even notice the thread had turned over till it hit archive.
>>48281859
>>48281812
>not Sage Wars edition
>>48281908
>Eh, maybe back when I namefagged
Who'd you used to be?
>>48282243
Danon
>>48282278
Oh hey ol pal. I was wondering if you'd left or just went anon
>>48282404
Life got busier so I started posting less, eventually I got tired of turning the name on and off when I wasn't really contributing anything by having it on. I'm still around though.
>I'm giving you a night bump, tell you how I feel
>>48281904
I'm partially convinced that Rey has the force ability to pull impressions of an objects previous owner off an object. Like Han's piloting ability off the Falcon dash, or Luke's saberskills off his lightsabre hilt.
But I'm not sure if this is supported by textual evidence. I only watch the movies.
I want to play a grizzled old clone in an AoR game my friend is running. I figured human commando, but they arent that shooty so would Merc Soldier be better?
>>48285623
Actually it would be. I don't know about skills but psychometry via the Force imparting knowledge by touching an object is most certainly canon, and Lucas approved. Quinlan Vos had it.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Psychometry
Again not sure about gleaming the skills, but maybe enough to duplicate movements? It's an interesting ability since the Jedi Council didn't like people using it on weapons.
>>48285623
>>48285844
See, if they actually brought that up as a plot point in VIII, I'd withdraw lot of criticism of VII. But it's too smart, so it's doomed to fanon
>>48285833
Sharpshooter and Medic are both fairly good careers in AOR, Tactician isn't a bad one either and has lots of fairly good talents.
If you want 'murder people with guns' all of the time- Ace Gunner is pretty fucking solid too, hey someone had to hang out the side of a gunship shooting droids.
>>48285915
Problem is why would she necessarily need objects to tell her how to do things via the Force when the Force itself could just guide her actions for her anyway?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10750799
http://www.strawpoll.me/10750799
http://www.strawpoll.me/10750799
>>48286000
Is the whole force sensitive instinctive precognition still explicitly canon or is it just implied now?
>>48285951
I don't really want to go sniper, and that's what i envision sharpshooter is. I more wanted a rifle, or generic soldier class.
>>48286072
Sharpshooter to me just seems to be more of a 'Rifleman' career than Sniper.
Snipers are sneaky buggers that do a lot of land navigation and muck around with radios to drop ordinance on unsuspecting plebs going about their scurrilous lives. Sometimes if they're really lucky they'll actually get to shoot someone... then probably die horribly as the enemy reacts with an artillery to such molestation.
>>48286050
lamest attempt at stirring up inter-board rivalry yet
>>48286060
Sure. The Force manifests in different ways but often expresses itself in the very young through subconscious powers, and very rarely controlled abilities.
Untrained Kid Anakin had Jedi reflexes and could provide the answers of flash cards without Venkman shocking him once.
Assaj Ventress manifested a very powerful Force Push when under extreme stress as a kid, which convinced the Jedi who witnessed it to take her as his Apprentice (apparently without bothering to tell the Council).
Ezra Bridger could sense events, even danger, and manifested a decent Force jump without any training and a blast of Force Push when one of his friends was in danger.
There's other examples. Really it's strange it took Luke so long, but he had Uncle Owen's constant berating him until he developed a part of himself that held him back. His Uncle talking, as Old Ben put it. Leia presumably had Bail being very careful in her education since if she manifested, well, being a Senator she'd be so close to the Emperor and potentially Vader. She has some low level visions in the new comics and some instinctive precog in the novel Bloodline, but never really studied and learned to control her abilities. Bit of a pity, really.
It wouldn't be out of the question for Rey to have always had some level of Force powers she wasn't aware of.
>>48286143
I know, right? End of the day we all love Ken the Jedi Prince and that's all that really matters.
>>48286143
>>48286170
Not my intention here. I think those who like /co/ can stick to their board and we can stick here. It's just poking fun like they've done with us in the past, but if there's /co/fags here who like the stuff we discuss then by all means they're welcome to stay.
>>48286184
So you'd be the guy who was trying to start shit in the /co/ thread but got your post deleted. They banned you from /co/ so you come here to start shit? Not cool.
>>48286215
Never been on /co/ as of late but I've been planning on going there for the Rebels feed. Do you want me to screencap my chrome history or something?
>>48286158
I mean, if the whole point of VII is "the force is awakening", it's probably not too weird for Rey to be more suddenly manifesting talents she wasn't activating before. And considering she does usually try and does poorly at something before getting it she seems to be operating on a level of instinct rather than "skill".
But really that's not a problem with Rey, that's a problem with the limitations and direction of the film. Concepts in the scripts and the novelization perfectly explain logic to her actions, and the previous films and cartoons really give the Force a lot of credit. Hell, I'm sure somebody asked "okay, but why?" in planning and scripting meetings regarding Rey's ability to pilot or fight people.
However, I will say that as much as I do actually like TFA, the film doesn't always do a great job delving into the headspace or introducing the characters as it could. Poe doesn't show off just how much of an ace pilot he is until like half-way in the movie, even Finn is kind of shallowly introduced as "He's a stormtrooper, but shit got real and he has to get out now!". As much as it retreads ANH - it's also clearly been written as part 1 in a trilogy.
>>48286278
There's two sides to every Schwartz nowadays. You've got the Cosmic Schwartz, which exists beyond time and space, outside the universe, connected to everything at the same time. This is where prophetic visions come from. Then you have the Living Schwartz which is very much of the moment, as Qui-Gon would put it. This is what gives you insights and warnings of imminent violence directed at you in your immediate vicinity.
The Cosmic Force for some reason decided to take a siesta after Luke fucked things up. Weird, really, since it didn't even do this shit when Sheev was fucking with the entire galaxy.
The Cosmic Force was still doing one of it's main jobs, thankfully, which is spewing life energy into the galaxy. Living Force, at the moment of your death, sends your life energy back to it. They feed each other constantly in a cyclical, symbiotic relationship. And they do so through Midi-Chlorians as bridges. Yeah.
Anyway people are still born with the ability to use the Force and can still manifest all the basic powers. Jump, push, pull, even sense attacks like Kylo Ren did when Poe tried to snipe him. You just don't get the really wild connection to that which lies beyond time and the material universe, but anyone without serious training wouldn't likely stumble on that anyway.
It's kind of an aside, really. Cosmic Force is equated with Destiny, so it really didn't seem to care until Rey came into play. Probably makes her more of a Sue to people already thus inclined. Personally I think it's kind of stupid. Like the Cosmic Force is being very petulant. Still she obviously caught its attention and once she did it makes sense it was manipulating events to keep her on her path, even after she fled from the Skywalker sword.
I watched a few episodes of the clone wars for the first time. I don't think I've ever seen a more cartoonishly evil saturday morning cartoon supervillain since Cobra Commander.
All he is missing is a top hat and a handlebar mustache to twirl after he ties jedi to the railroad tracks.
>>48286427
That's been Grievous since Episode III.
>>48286278
The way I see it the Force has been watching out for her ass the whole movie. She kind of goes into a trancelike state, like when her voice becomes a bit flat when she finally gets the Mind Trick to work, or the sudden change in her demeanor before she starts seriously fighting back against Kylo Ren.
The Force definitely wants her around to do something, presumably get Luke his sword back or just convince him to stop being a goddamn hermit and man the fuck up, but arguably it has plans for Kylo Ren too the way the ground split between them on the Starkiller base planet just when he was beaten, forcing them apart so that Benny Boy lives to stab walls another day.
>>48286427
>All he is missing is a top hat and a handlebar mustache to twirl after he ties jedi to the railroad tracks.
Hey, having a cool moustache and tying bitches to train tracks is a serious job, those bitches aren't going to tie themselves to train tracks.
>>48286377
Star Wars has been filled with space jesus many a time before, and I suspect will many a time after. We may even have multiple space Jesuses... Jesii? - whatever, before the new trilogy is done.
>>48286611
They're all the chosen ones of their adventure. You don't have to have the Force as your literal daddy like Anakin to be set up for a huge role in destiny.
Each trilogy gives us another generation whose destiny it is to clean up the messes of the previous generation. Even if Anakin's trilogy was going back all the way to when the Jedi let at least one Sith Lord live and ended with him horribly fucking everything up.
At least Luke is getting a turn this time too, though I figure he'll play more of an Old Ben role. Hopefully without the dying part, at least not until Episode IX. Hopefully they don't start whittling down the cast of the OT too soon.
Still wondering what they'll do about Ackbar now that his original voice actor has died.
>>48285623
>pull impressions of an objects previous owner off an object
>Rey spends all of VIII nicking everyone's stuff and fondling it for stat bonuses
That would actually be pretty funny.
FFG panel finished at Star Wars Celebration. Only thing new was "Correllian Conflict" campaign box for Armada. Includes a campaign, new objectives, and new unique pilots for X-Wings, TIE Interceptors, and more. There'll probably be an official announcement on the page later today similar to last year.
Only other thing is that they're "working on a Rogue One product." Phrasing implies something like a new board game, could just be bad phrasing and they plan to only make stuff for existing games, could be both.
>>48287912
Oh, and the campaign box is supposed to be out later this year.
>>48287912
>working on a Rogue One product
Fingers crossed for an Imperial Assault expansion with maps that faithfully recreate Dark Forces levels on the tabletop.
Naboo Fighter variants when? You can't tell me they never developed past the N-1.
>>48288142
It's been done.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Naboo_starfighter_classes
>>48288256
>2d images
They're no good out here. I need something more real.
>>48287912
>new unique pilots for X-Wings, TIE Interceptors, and more.
>>48288484
>I need something more real.
We all do, Anon. We all do.
>>48286158
>Assaj Ventress manifested a very powerful Force Push when under extreme stress as a kid, which convinced the Jedi who witnessed it to take her as his Apprentice (apparently without bothering to tell the Council).
He was stranded on Rattatak and died before he could contact the Council.
>>48288648
There's this, I guess.
>>48286060
It's mentioned in TPM by Qui-Gon, so yes, it's still canon.
>>48287912
Stop, I can only get so erect
what are some interesting (Not asking for game breaking) Race/Career/Spec combos?
>>48287912
>new unique pilots for X-Wings
As in, T-65?
>>48290254
That'd be for Armada, which (currently) doesn't have any squadrons of T-70s.
How do you shoot Younglings? Easy, Don't lead them so much.
>>48291013
What the fuck is that?
>>48291238
gunner from Rogue One
probably the inside of a U-wing
>>48291013
>>48291238
Is that Warwick Davis?
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/223703-need-help-rebuilding-jedi-character-from-d6d20-rcrb/
>>48291778
>https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/223703-need-help-rebuilding-jedi-character-from-d6d20-rcrb/
kek, he's only missing a fedora
>>48291968
>MASTER jedi weaponMASTER
needs more mastery
>>48291778
>Ewok Shaman
>>48292023
master jedi weponmaster of mastery.
>>48291778
Holy kek
>Tri-Lightsaber
>>48291238
>>48291013
I hope its a Drall
>>48292023
Well, the initial FFG built he came up with had 3000 XP. Which as was pointed out on the ffg thread, is about 1000 more than Yoda had when FFG statted the jedi council.
>All those sets and costumes
>"X-Wings, [something]-Wings, all around"
>"...and then the X-Wing kills the AT-AT over there Kaboom!"
>this glorious mother fucker straight out of the RAF during Desert Storm
Guys, I think I feel the hype overtaking me
>>48292348
I'm more amazed by the fact that even after his "trimming" he ended up on the same power level of yoda or the emperor
>>48291778
>>48292463
>>48291013
What? When? Where? Pls explain
>>48292648
Star Wars Celebration is this weekend. Hold on to your butts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUb_zpdyDpU
>>48292648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUb_zpdyDpU
>>48292463
I like the practical effects, the locations, Mon Milfma, and all of those delicious new stormtrooper variants.
I don't think Not-Bria Tharen saying "May the Force be with us" makes any sense in NuCanon, especially if Obi-Wan and Yoda are literally the last Jedi now.
>>48292694
>Once again falling for the practical effects marketing meme
>>48292694
The Force isn't just a Jedi thing, though. The Force exists without the Jedi/Sith/whatever. Force-users just have more than only a spiritual belief in it.
>>48292694
That seems to be a common rebel phrase before a mission. Ackbar says it before the Battle of Endor and Dodonna says it before the Battle of Yavin.
>>48292714
As opposed to what? "Hey guys, remember the prequels?". Go pretend to be retarded somewhere else.
>>48292735
It's like saying "may god be with us", it's almost a religious thing, soldiers in ww2 movies say it when shit is about to hit the fan, rebels say "may the force be with us" when shit is about to hit the fan
>>48292755
Just reminding you that there will be more CGI Effects then practical ones in the film. To ignore that fact would be silly.
>>48292714
Not a meme, just a preference. If you like excessive CGI that's fine.I'm sure Ghostbusters Because Its 2016 will have plenty of seats available this week
>>48292717
>>48292735
But in both of those cases they had a guy with a lightsaber sitting in on the briefing and the common sentiment of average joes in ANH was that it was a quaint old-timey religion.
Unless Blind Iron Monkey is some kind of weird Force tradition, in which case, I take it back.
I hope he's a weird Force tradition.
>>48292694
Remember in Episode 4 during the briefing for the Battle of Yavin when that Rebel general said "may the Force be with you"? That established that a lot of Rebels have adopted at least a half-hearted interest in the Jedi religion, if only because the Emperor tried to purge all the Jedi and they're opposed to anything the Emperor does on general principle.
>>48292781
The Force is on our side!
>>48292821
He is supposed to like, believe in and try and follow the Force even if he's not a Jedi/Sith and man not have any demonstrable powers (other than movie blindness superpowers)
>>48292781
>>48292835
VI VULT
>>48292668
It's funny how everyone making a star wars movie now has to go "look at me, we're not using green screens (That much). We're using practical sets! Love us!"
I'm curious about the blind guy, seems like the only way to explain that is being force sensitive.
>>48292877
It's not just Star Wars, it was the same for Fury Road. The point is that the use of CGI for absolutely everything is easy to see through after audiences being saturated with it for over a decade, and it effects the performances of the actors when all they have to go by is a couple of tennis balls on a featureless sound stage. Even though it's a set or a prop, just like with miniatures, there is an understanding that the thing on the screen was physically real.
you know what would've been a cool idea? Since IRL Ion Engines work great in a vacuum but shit in atmo, if that had been translated into the star wars universe.
As in, while TIE fighters are dodgey little bastards in space, if they should enter a planet's atmosphere their engine's output drops so dramatically that they can't even generate enough thrust to keep it in the air and they drop like stones.
It would make for some unique tactics rebels could employ since their fighters don't use Ion engines they can still operate in atmo without any significant drop in performance. so they could use that to their advantage to either evade pursuing TIEs.
Obviously episode 7 and the Rebels cartoon nipped that idea in the but by showing ties flying around in a planet's atmosphere without trouble, but I still think that would be a cool idea.
>>48293015
And Episode V, there were TIEs on bespin.
>>48293015
TIEs flying in-atmosphere is something that's been around for a long time but I agree it's a huge missed opportunity. Giving the atmosphere some effect - even a relatively soft-science one - on ship design would have given an actual in-universe reason for designs like the X-Wing.
I also think it would have been cool to have TIE fighters incapable of landing and only being able to be hung from a rack in a docking bay, but once again that ship has long sailed.
>>48293075
Well, I suppose one might argue that due to Cloud City's location on the edge of a gas giant the atmosphere might have been relatively limited at that point. Then again, people on Cloud City could breath just fine outdoors so that explanation seems unlikely.
>>48293284
In the X-Wing books, TIEs lost a fair portion of their maneuverability in atmosphere and had significant loss of sideways vectoring.
>>48293333
Hmm, well maybe R1 will address it with the Avengers being used for in-atmo combat. It doesn't do anything about the examples of regular TIEs flying fine in-atmosphere but hell, at this point I've headcanoned in bigger things than a change in ship shape.
>>48292815
>"I like the fact that there are apples in the world."
>"DON'T FORGET THERE IS ALSO SHIT."
Doesn't seem relevant.
>>48293333
>>48293392
Forget to mention- Checked.
>>48293015
IRL, ion engines actually work fine both in atmo and in vacuum. The problem is their thrust is very minimal, so the vast size of space makes them ideal, where they have plenty of time to build up greater speed with the small amounts thrust. Plus they have tremendous fuel efficiency.
What actually makes them shit in atmosphere, is the atmospheric drag cutting away at the small amounts of thrust they generate. But seeing as this is Star Wars, and Ion engines fall into the usual realm of space-magic sci-fi, the thrust the Ion engines provide is significantly high enough to where it wouldn't actuall matter that much in atmosphere.
Freaking oggdudes chargen update is not recognizing previous created characters (but all my other custom shit is fine)... Oggdudes not having this glitch so it likely won't get fixed in time for my next session... FUCK.
>>48292815
CGI is fine, when used responsibly. Practical Effects are also great, and have a long history of perfecting them to a science. Bad practical effects are the realm of old B-rated monster movies, where you see the zipper, or the monster, or strings attached to the bats. Bad cgi is Disney's Chicken Little film, or Reboot (although Reboot was a great series, ahead of it's time).
All Practical Effects are the original trilogy. Too much Star Wars CGI is Episode 2, Attack of the Clones. Almost the entire goddamned movie is CGI. Bad Star Wars CGI is the singer in Jabba's Palace, CGI wookies in RoTS, or Jabba in A New Hope. It's therefore important to maintain the balance between Practical Effects, and (well done) CGI. Neither is better, but both are important to have.
>>48293651
The one that always gets me is the CGI clone troopers in RotS. It pisses me off not just because it looks bad but because of how completely unnecessary it was; there are millions of fanboys/girls out there who would give their left testicle/ovary to dress up as one of those troopers and hang around on a Star Wars set all day.
>>48293689
Yeah, that was pretty bad, too. Or the CGI R2-D2 doing crazy shit purely on virtue of being CGI. Like fucking rocket booster flying around, or suddenly exploding everywhere as a distraction in RotS.
>>48293498
>Ion engines in air
Naw. Well, very, very unlikely. If the chamber's filled with non-conductive material an ion engine won't work.
Air is non-conductive material.
>>48293651
Part of the problem with practical effects is their limitations. The Yoda puppet looked great, but couldn't do things like walk. Jabba was likewise stuck in place (driving the design of hutts. If it was going to be immobile then it should look immobile.)
>>48293651
Attack of the Clones has aged really badly on the effects front. Not just the stiffness of a lot of the animations, but even the way light sources clash with how the actors are lit in the green screen scenes is painfully jarring.
>>48293801
I completely agree with the limitations of practical effects. But then you get shit like Ep 2's flying-saucer Yoda. There are pros and cons, and limitations to both practical and cgi. It all just depends upon the balance between using them, and not going overboard with either these days.
New to the game and making my first character. How does buying more obligation work for getting more money and experience? It says I can't gain more additional obligation than their original starting value. So if I started with 10 obligation I can buy another 10 worth right, for a total of 20? Or I start with 0 and buy 10 obligation worth of bonuses?
As someone who got into Armada early and has had almost nobody to play with do you guys think with the next two waves coming out it'll grow? Everyone else really seems to prefer X-Wing over it.
>>48294153
I think so. The Liberty will give the rebels an option besides "skirt the edge and broadside while hoping you don't die!!!" At this point there's starting to be more options, but list build is still pretty samey. The thing X-Wing really has going for it, is massive variety in ships, and three factions to play. Aramada's just not to that point.
>>48294143
The former.
if you start with 5, you can only take +5 for a maximum of 10, and if starting with 10, +10 for a total of 20, etc etc
You CAN get both +10 bonuses in theory, but this would require you to have a starting obligation of 20 and taking +20 extra for a total of 40, which would be an absurd amount.
>>48294294
Thats fair. I've just always loved the bigger ships and with them releasing my favorite I'm excited for the game again, you know?
>>48294153
>>48294294
Anyone remember what it was like for X-wing players back when each faction only had three ships? Was it the same?
>>48293689
>>48293771
With heavy CGI-use, most directors seems to go mad with power and starts to include ridiculous shit just because they can.
>>48294746
Scum wasn't released until around Wave 5 or 6 and I think started out with around 5 or 6 ships (3 being shared with Rebels/Imps).
Wave 1 was dominated by Howlrunner swarms, Wave 2 was still Tie swarms, but Falcon made things interesting and you saw proto-fat Han builds. Wave 3 still had strong swarms, but the B-wing was released and in conjunction with HLC, BBXX became very strong and won worlds that year. Doom shuttle/buzzsaw shuttle etc... also came with wave 3 and were pretty strong.
Wave 4/Imperial aces pushed the game away from being dominated by generic pilots and more towards the Aces and large base + escort lists that have made up the meta since wave 4 (with some exceptions).
Scum has not really been viable until IG88 and Dengar showed up.
>>48294917
IG-88 was part of the first scum releases.
>>48294746
I remember I wasn't interested in the game yet. When it was just Falcon, X-Wing, A-Wing, and Y-Wing for Rebels, my thought was "meh...". B-wings came out, and suddenly I was interested, but didn't jump on board yet.
The Wave 6 was announced, featuring Scum and Villainy. And most of all, it had my second favorite ship, the Starviper. And I was sold. Bought into Rebels and had a Rebel Aces, A-Wing, B-Wing, 4 Z-95s, 2 Y-Wings, and the starter X-Wing in preparation for Wave 6. Wave 6 came and I bought all the things, including 4 Scyks and 2 Most Wantd boxes.
Now the only ships I haven't purchased, are the Gozanti and the Tantive IV.
>>48294951
So it was.
When did the brobots list start to show up? It was after scums initial release though right?
Anyone got any advice for a casual player for dealing with TIE swarms as rebels? My friend finally managed to start flying them well and I'm not really sure what to do about them. Assault missiles maybe?
>>48292560
Yeah.
I don't vget people who just want to start play with an uber character. Seriously, either play someone else or roll the timeline back.
Though his character pretty much started out as super speshul snowflake sekrit jedi in training from the get-go, so I suppose he was just skipping to his final form.
>>48295013
Nope. Right out the gate IG was considered top tier. I distinctly remember people complaining about them in the first few months. They're still really good.
Scum small ships were pretty bad until Wave 8, excepting 4xTLT.
>>48295226
On Blount, sure. It should put some fear in him. TB /D with ruthlessness is also great in a target rich environment like that. Highish-PS bombs can also be great. Also don't discount Ion Torpedoes. My friend won a SC with an ion torp Redline. It wins games against Howl swarms.
Part of the thing with this game is that a well flown TIE swarm is still one of the best lists in the game.
>>48295013
No. The brobots started showing up immediately. They were the first Scum powerbuilds people started seeing. It's part of the reason why Guri has been a sleeper hit for players who take the time to learn how to fly her (well), and why Palob remained steady as a popular choice. People jumped on the brobots band wagon, the starviper seemed like an E-Wing mistake round 2, the HWKs were HWKs and overlooked, and the Scyk was quickly tried and found to be a lemon. There was for a long while where everyone competitive thought the Starviper was a terrible ship, because it didn't arc dodge effectively and lacked the green maneuvers for Push the Limit.
>>48295498
Looks like he's hitchhiking.
>>48295226
Tie swarms, especially Crack-Blacks, can cause headaches. The main thing is they (the swarm) want to stay in formation as long as possible, to focus-fire effectively. Break up the formation, and shit gets chaotic for them, quick. Tie swarms (and A-Wing) do well because 2 dice primaries aren't effective buy themselves, but are when you have numerous 2 die primary attacks and maybe a Crackshot to burn when needed.
Assault Missiles can be good, if you can guarantee the hit (Blount or Munitions Failsafe). But Assualt Missiles are kinda gamey, as they practically exist only for dealing with swarms. You can also counter swarms with numbers of your own. Z-95s aren't particularly great ships, but they can match Tie Fighters in the number game, even if they don't barrel roll. And there's also just simply fielding more generics and less big named pilots (super Poe, Han, etc). 4 B-Wings with a System or extra Z-95 can do a pretty bang up job against a Tie swarm.
>>48295456
Yeah, I get that the TIEs are hard to fly but hard to beat. I didnt know about much of that, so that's all good to know, especially Blount. Thanks!
>>48286427
>The Clone Wars is canon
>Star Wars: Clone Wars is not
>>48295979
Genndy's show was barely "canon" to begin with. At least one episode was all but outright stated to actually be Republic propaganda.
>>48281767
Running a Star Wars game set the old Sith Empire. Naturally all players are Sith Apprentices. I thought for sure they'd edgelord it up be its all been pretty good so far. 3 sessions in and players are really enjoying it.
Using BRP with a few modified rules. Really having a blast. Star Wars is such a great setting for a game.
>>48295729
Ruthlessness-Vessery-TIE/D-Tractor Beam works quite well against Z-95 swarms or TLT-Y-Wing pairs, although I've never seen them used against TIE swarms where that third agility dice might prove telling against the Tractor.
Still, if you can pull the combo off then one other guy within RB of the first target will take 2 damage just from ruthlessness alone.
There's a reason why Ruthlessness is Imperial Only, and that's because until now, they HAVEN'T had any decent options to attack twice.
Thread is dying so post your ship-fu
>>48298485
TIE Interceptor for life.
Pros:
>Damn she toned af. No excess weight.
>Pocket rocket, and adorbs too.
>Low maintenance, she doesn't ask for much.
>Utterly loyal and reliable, she won't let you down.
>Lots of sisters who are just like her.
Cons:
>Lacking in the 'firepower' department, if ya know what I mean.
>Great sprinter, but low-ass stamina. When she gets tired, GG.
>Absolute one-track mind. Good luck steering the conversation away from her interests.
>Ejection seat's faulty. You leave her, you could lose a leg.
>Lots of sisters who are just like her.
>>48298485
>>48298870
KANDOSII!
>Can bombard planets and other capital ships with 12 Super heavy launchers
>Point Defense covers the entire hull
>Can carry a compliment of Mandalorian warriors
>Carries Basilisk War Droids
>>48295226
Timing is also huge for defeating a swarm. Hold off engaging them for as long as possible, then blow past them with 4 and 5 straight maneuvers (or even K-turns, if you feel daring). The trick is to never engage them head on at Range 1-2, and to disrupt their formations with bumping and roids as soon as possible.
Also start setting a 75 minute timer on your games. 75 minutes is the Tourney standard, and swarms like to have all the time in the world to set up. They're an endurance build.
>>48285915
>Luke: "You have a rare talent, Rey. Psycometry, the ability to absorb and channel the skills of an object's previous owner while you're in contact with that object."
>Rey: "So that's why flying the Falcon felt so natural ... And why I was able to beat Kylo Ren in a duel!"
>Mark Hammil looks over Rey's shoulder and directly into the camera
>"Yes. That's why."
>>48298485
It's old as hell but reliable and very affordable starter ship for a group of exiles that want a ship that can do a bit of everything from dog fighting to hauling cargo.
The biggest perk so far has been the YT-1000's easy modability and plentiful after market parts. Our Artisan has been able to upgrade The YT-1000 That Could's armor engines and even weapons using just the salvaged CEC bits we've blasted off of the assorted scum and bounty hunters that track our party across the outer rim.
>>48298485
>first time painting minis
>lets do bloodstripes
>use tape for clean lines
>paint soaks through tape
>mfw
So how do I fix this?
Should I try to remove the unwanted paint, or paint over my rookie errors?
>>48301424
wipe off as much as you can if its still wet.
if it's just one thin coat painting over is probablybe fine.
if you try and strip the paint you'll likelyend up needing too repaint most or all of the ship.
for uneven surfaces like ship minis bluetack is better for masking.
>>48301510
I was able to wipe off some, but it dried on me pretty fast.
It is just a thin coat, so I guess I will try painting over it.
>bluetack
Shit, I think I already have some.
I'll be sure to try that next time.
Thanks for the advice anon.
>>48298485
The peak of Correlian engineering: The HWK-1000. Class 1 Hyperdrive with backup, with navigation and sensor systems standard, my model is fully equipped with high output turbine engine, whisperthrust engine and an engine ring stabilizer as well as a luxury passenger compartment. This ship is both able to transport cargo and can still keep up with most fighters in combat.
>>48298803
>Lacking in firepower
>3 attack dice
>In Legends, can mount optional ordnance launchers
>Early models have four lasers, later refits have a whopping six
>>48302006
This thing is ugly and polygonal.
>>48302251
He's saying the fighter don't have no tits.
>>48302314
Eh, I was assuming that, based on the metaphor, bust size was proportionate to actual dakka capability. If we equate tits to displacement tonnage, though, I'd understand.
>>48302352
Wow, that artist has some wildly inaccurate ideas about how both tiddies and elbows work
>>48302384
Sorry, it was the only tit-related Kancolle image I had on hand.
>>48292990
plus it's kinda sick as hell to see that people went through the effort to MAKE these fictional things, at least for me
>>48292463
>the moustache
this really is the Galactic Civil War Era
>>48302397
>the only tit-related Kancolle image I had
>Kancolle
>only tit-related image
I don't understand
>>48302596
I'm in it for the reaction images, yo.
>>48302384
tiddies seem fine to me, they are in a tight vest and i guess he didn't draw niples because it's nsfw, just my guess tho.
>>48302772
It isn't even a vest, it's a tight strip of fabric which by all rights should be pushing both tits out from the center, and would frankly be rather uncomfortable for the gal
>>48302952
Silly anon, everyone knows even the fluffiest fabric turns into clingy latex when worn about the bosom.
>>48298485
It's honestly a toss up between this and the E-wing. I got into X-wing in the first place because those ships made it into wave 4. I love superiority fighters, and hope that the E-wing gets as awesome a fix as the Defender got.
So my gf and I started a 500 point game of xwing a month ago.
I'm fucking tired of it, and she says we can't just stop we have to 'finish what I started.'
I'm 55 points down in kills.. how to I destroy this broad?
>>48303070
>I'm fucking tired of it
You sure you're not just buttblasted because you're currently losing anon?
>>48303070
If you wanted to just end it, then make bad decisions (but not overly so, so she doesn't know you're throwing the game) so she can just wipe you out.
>>48303070
Well shit nigger, start going down on her and she won't need to show you who's boss on the tabletop as much
>>48302251
I meant munitions. Big bvr fuck cap ships firepower. Multirole fighters have it. The Interceptor packs lasers only. But they're really good ones.
I'd say smaller, but really well shaped
>>48286109
It's more "designated marksman", but sure.
>>48302308
>hating on sleek, angular, birdlike shipfu that's better than the Moldy Crow
pfft go back to your curvesalthough he is wrong for not arming her and using her to take down TIEs at their own game
>>48301424
>>48301631
Well I managed to clean it up a little.
Have a terrible picture of my less messy paint job.
Coverage looks lousy on camera, probably need another coat.
Thoughts?
>>48304085
needs another coat or two too smooth the colour out.
but otherwise good work.
>>48304085
>>48304114
oh and a tip, when doing the stripe use a narrower brush and go along each edge and the fill it it after. its easier too paint a straight line if you're only worrying about one side being straight.
>>48303904
You're thinking of the Raven's Claw. The Moldy Crow is the HWK-1000.
>>48304114
Will give it another coat then.
>>48304204
I was already using my smallest brush, but I was just working out from the grey border, will try that.
Thanks again for the assistance.
Working on the next Top Gear chapter here. Once the Pinook race is done, shipfag has suggested a "Starfighters for less than Space Golf" challenge. Does anyone else have any requests for other segments or shipwrights?
No nucanon ships or SIARPFs, though. Poe and the T-70 were exceptions, and will be the only nucanon entries until/unless nucanon releases more character fluff and ship specs.
>>48304959
A trip through Hutt space in retired CSA or Imperial patrol craft, decorated in anti-Hutt slogans.
So... New Thrawn book...
>>48306247
Muh dick is at maximum. I know for a fact that Tim Zahn wasn't happy with what the EU did with Chiss culture in the NJO and post-NJO books. Now Tim has a chance to make things right.
>>48306247
>>48306247
>New Thrawn book
Wait, for real? Is the Second Coming upon us?
>>48306247
Permanent boner.
>>48306337
Confirmed. 100% confirmed. Written by Zahn himself.
>>48306337
Zahn's writing it. Part of thing because he's being put into Rebels as the season big bad. Coming April.
>>48306350
>>48306359
>New Thrawn book
>Thrawn in Rebels
Sweet mother of shit, my body is ready. Stackpole and Stover when, Disney?
>>48306408
Yslamiri confirmed for never again.
Sleep tight sweet prince.
>>48306247
I had the feeling he was too popular not to get back into canon somehow.
>>48306425
>Sleep tight sweet prince.
Ken lives in death.
Still, fingers crossed for the return of Mara, Pellaeon, Karrde, Bel Iblis, and based Borsk.
>>48306495
Pellaeon's at the top of the list, for sure. They come as a set. They won't write it from Thrawn's perspective, they'll need a character we can relate to and view Thrawn through. That's always been Pellaeon.
>>48306590
[heavy cybernetic breathing]
>>48298485
>>48298485
>>48293689
The counterargument is that they are clones and all the clone troopers would need to be the exact same height and build.
Granted, a smart casting direct would hire some twins or even triplets to wear the armor in small group shots and then fill in with CGI the rest. This would allow the audience to see something physical in front of the camera that would help distract them from focusing on the bad, early 2000s CGI.
Alas, it was not to be so.
>>48306495
Filoni said no Mara either.
>>48306679
Is Filoni still just in control of his own work or has he gotten editorial power over Zahn and other writers now? I haven't kept up with nucanon news.
>"This is Tie SS-25"
>"You can call me Wedge"
>>48306247
Happening Level: It's
>>48306709
He's basically the unofficial fifth member of the Story Group. So he's got a lot of pull in what happens for the story overall, even if it's not in an official capacity.
>>48302435
I'm with you. I loved watching the 30+ hours of making-of Appendices that were on the Lord of the Rings extended DVDs.
There was just so much love and care and work that went into it, it was so fascinating to watch.
The Hobbit Appendices were kinda depressing to see how little Jackson gave a fuck.
>>48306752
WHEN?????
>>48306247
>>48306752
Not just the book
>>48306783
I've heard that Jackson was basically bonded to the project by way of "do this or we'll make sure you never make another movie", because he didn't want to make another trilogy series.
>>48306793
Only thing we know so far is 2017.
>>48306713
Anyone else notice the blood-stripe Interceptors serving carrying out one of Thrawn's attacks?
Could a certain baron soon be making a reappearance as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXp802sFgQ
>>48306247
Thrawn in rebs too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydmGyrpl-0M
>>48306812
>I've heard that Jackson was basically bonded to the project by way of "do this or we'll make sure you never make another movie", because he didn't want to make another trilogy series.
It was also that Guillermo Del Toro walked off the project after a few years of pre-production because MGM, who have owned the rights to a Hobbit movie since the 60s, was bankrupt and kept starting and stopping production the whole time he was there. So he'd start work for two months, be forced to stop for 6 months, allowed to start work again for 3 months, then stopped for a few more months.
Just so much stop and go and Del Toro just said he couldn't keep putting his life and his career on hold and went off to make Pacific Rim.
Outrider Class ships Canon
Literally Who Thrawn is Canon
No fucking Revan though.
>>48306772
There's something sacrilegious about the idea of Filoni, of all people, telling Timothy Zahn what he can and can't do.
>>48306850
I sure did, as well as something that looks an awful lot like a YT-2400.
>>48306866
Oh, neato.
>>48306877
Technically YT-2400 classes have been canon since the split already. There's one in ANH's Special Edition.
>>48306891
Filoni was basically George's apprentice. If anyone deserves the role of telling people what they can or can't do with Star Wars in the future it's him.
>>48306865
>>48306854
>Thrawn's voice
>>48306877
Dark Troopers also canon maybe
>>48306936
*Death Troopers
>>48306926
The one in ANH was stated to be the Outrider.
Meaning Dash is canon. But Shadows is still iffy.
I've said it before, I like the idea that Shadows of the Empire is Dash's tall tale he tells to get laid.
"Yeah, I totally helped save the Rebellion on Hoth, then beat Boba Fett in a one-on-one and TOTALLY stole those Death Star II plans all by myself. What's a Bothan?"
>>48306957
>Meaning Dash is canon. But Shadows is still iffy
No, it means that the Outrider is canon. Dash isn't seen at all. He's not canon.
>>48306865
Governor Price looks fine tho
>>48306854
I'm not a big fan of the voice, but maybe it'll grow on me.
>>48306936
I wonder where I've seen those faces before.
>>48306972
But who's flying the Outrider if not Dash?
Shadows was really popular at the time, which is why it was added in.
>>48306996
Just because one thing is canon does not mean all other things associated with it are canon as well.
Also, I should point out that the YT-2400 in ANH is only considered to be the Outrider in Legends - no canonical source has mentioned that it's that specific ship.
>>48306996
>But who's flying the Outrider if not Dash?
It could be anyone. Sort of like how we don't know who was flying the Falcon in its prequel trilogy cameos, and how we didn't know whether nucanon's "Scourge of Malachor" had any actual connection to Revan, the Exile, etc. when the visual dictionary was released.
>>48306926
>George's apprentice
That could mean good things, but it could also mean bad things. Rebels and TCW were decent, but they've had their share of shitty moments. And that's it. They've been decent, not brilliant--not like the Thrawn Trilogy, Scoundrels, Hand of Thrawn, etc. But this is coming from a stubborn, ignorant fuck who still desperately clings to the rotting corpse of '90s Legends, so eh, what do I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EI8YxV0u2U
FFG on the stream
So how is the mouse going to ruin Thrawn?
>>48306936
Dark Troopers have been canon since 2014. They're in Star Wars: Commander.
>>48306996
Uh...Leebo? At any rate, Outside of SotE Dash is flexible enough to do his "shadier Han Solo who never went legit" angle, so it wouldn't be a stretch to throw him in somewhere.
>>48307126
>>48306752
>>48306247
Priapism achieved.
>>48306679
Emperor's Hand Mara Jade would be easy to re-insert, but Mara Jade Skywalker wouldn't be because of Ep 7 shitting all over Luke's Jedi Order. If Zahn's relationship to the NuCanon Story Group goes well, then I could see them negotiating some sort of compromise. It'd be better if Mara didn't officially exist if she would just be another body for Luke's Dead Girlfriend Pile (again. Thanks Traviss)
But yeah, Thrawn returning slowly opens the door for others.
I just saw a screenshot on FB of those TIE Interceptors in the new trailer.
Bloodstripes.
Y'all know what that means.
>>48307551
>TIE SS25, you can call me Wedge
>>48307551
>>48306865
Man, the last form of Media I would want to see Thrawn on is a Filoni animated star wars show.
Who is the Stannis Baratheon of Star Wars? And is Wilhuff Tarkin Tywin Lannister?
>>48307551
New Rogue One trailer or something?
>>48307698
Rebels Season 3 trailer.
>>48306936
>>48306893
>>48306812
>>48306752
Holeeey Shiiieeeet. NuCanon finally getting awesome.
nuCanon and Awesome. Those are words i thought i'd not put in the same sentence in a long time... a long, long time.
>>48307673
This
>>48307698
No. One of the Saturday Morning Cartoons.
>>48307551
>Y'all know what that means.
An excuse to become space /asp/ once again?
>Luke: "You have a rare talent, Rey. Psycometry, the ability to absorb and channel the skills of an object's previous owner while you're in contact with that object."
>Rey: "So that's why flying the Falcon felt so natural ... And why I was able to beat Kylo Ren in a duel!"
>Mark Hammil looks over Rey's shoulder and directly into the camera
>"Yes. That's why."
>>48307690
No, Thrawn would be the Tywin.
Smart, outmaneuvers everyone, appreciates the finer things in life, is killed by someone he thought he could trust(in a way) in a moment of vulnerability for his crimes against those his assassin would have cared about.
>>48307673
You'll eat your damn Star Wars and like it young man!
>>48307721
I can get behind this in a serious fashion.
>>48307690
>>48307730
Roan Fel off of Legacy would probably be Stannis. Descendant of the Most Electrifying Man in Galactic Entertainment, strict, rigid, exiled from his throne and doesn't recognise anyone besides him that claims the Galaxy and only barely tolerates working with them.
>>48307730
Tywin lacks the important part, tactical and strategic genius. In many ways he's more of a traditional old canon Imperial officer, relying on butchering everyone who ever looked at you sideways and trusting to the fear that creates to keep people in line.
In that sense Tywin certainly is Tarkin, especially if we consider that Tywins "genius" is being a pro administrator.
>>48306854
DARK TROOPERS DARK TROOPERS DARK TROOPERS DARK TROOOPERS
>One last day in the glorious Grand Army of the Republic
>>48307721
>Any object?
>Any object.
>And any sort of physical contact?
>Yep.
>And how much milsurp has become available on the holonet since the New Republic dissolved its military?
>>48307709
>a long, long time.
ago in a galaxy far, far away
>>48307673
Have you not been watching Rebels?
I'm joining an Edge game and making a bounty hunter. Can anyone name a cool marksman rifle in the Blaster line? Something that could be a Blaster Rifle + Marksmans Barrel + Telescopic Sight in game.
>>48281767
Is it bad that the first thing i noticed was the round dish on the falcon and how it should not be there?
>>48308197
>you can't modify ships in star wars!
Dude, chill.
>>48306247
>>48306752
Holy cock, they've actually done it
>>48308228
Not him but the Falcon's round dish got knocked off when it was flying inside the Second Death Star.
It was replaced by a rectangular dish for TFA.
Nothing worth getting upset about, but something someone should have noticed before putting out a picture like that if it was anything professional.
>>48286427
He was badass in the clone wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4
Star wars the clone wars toned him down a lot buti get the feeling he appears to suck more because he has less plot armor then those he is thrown up vs.
And the times he is not fighting someone with plot armor he tends to win (which is mabey because he has better plot armor then them?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF97aJO7MuM
>>48308302
The absolute madmen.
>>48308337
He *was* seriously injured between them, and then finally dies in RotS.
>>48306978
I gotta say, I was /beyond/ relieved when he spoke and he didn't have that godawful cowboy accent from TIE Fighter Special Edition. Thrawn is a Bond villain extraordinaire, he does not have an American accent.
>>48308357
Well in SWTCW he shows up to fight obi and annie... so thats never going to work out well for him.
There was a lot that could have been done with him. but sadly we will never see it.
>>48308387
David Warner might be a bit old for the part, but he's who I've always used mentally as Thrawn's voice since reading The Heir to the Empire back in the day. This one doesn't hold a candle to that, but it's not too bad. And considering it's Madds' brother providing this voice, that opens interesting possibilities....
>>48308166
BLasTech CH-170 "Ventilator" Precision Rifle.
>>48308357
The injury he receives in CW is
1. at the end of the war, literally the last episode of CW (TCW was meant originally to take place in the timeskip after Anakin's Knighting ceremony in CW) and therefore after the events of TCW
2. Never referenced again in any other media. The movie doesn't even show his torso as damaged, despite happening less than an hour after the injury is sustained in CW's final episode.
>>48308387
It's no Tom Hiddleston but it'll do.
>>48308440
I always had this, like...I don't have a specific actor, but a really smooth and, well, James Bond villain-esque voice, like someone who has a handle on things at literally all times (even though he really doesn't).
>>48307060
Sam Witwer said it could be Kyle Katarn.
Have a gem from /tv/.
>>>/tv/72053285
>>48308727
>Moffs are domestic governors
They're military governors. They're in the chain of command.
So we've talked about Thrawn, Dark Troopers, Wedge, Ezra's hair, but what about Kanan's REALLY unconvincing beard?
So is Rebels any good? I've seen a little bit and it seems shit compared to TCW.
>>48309150
The blocky facial hair was always bad.
>>48309189
You're wrong. Compare first season Rebels to first season TCW, and Rebels barely edges out. Compare 2nd season Rebels to 2nd season TCW, and TCW is blown out the fucking water.
>>48309189
It gets better. Like TCW, it has a rocky season 1. Season 2 is considerably better.
>>48309189
If you like TCW you will probably like Rebels.
Are x-wing minis hand painted or is it done by a machine?
>>48309395
Hand-painted by en-teched people.
>>48309150
The beard is alright, but the "glued an icepack to my face" look really bugs me.
One job Filoni, one job.
