Does /tg/ like Goblin Slayer?
It's definitely off to an interesting start, I suppose.
>>48264535
She has nice legs.
>>48264535
It's flavor of the month and will be nothing more. It certainly won't be another dungeon meshi.
>>48264535
This is like the 5th thread dealing with goblin slayer in just the last two days.
Honestly? No. It's shitty light-guro snuff porn trying to pretend it isn't. It's shallow and nothing more than blatant fanservice pandering with a dash of cheap shock value. It's schlock, and not even good schlock.
GS is alpha as fuck
Sad about what happened to the party, but they were a bunch of dumbfucks
>>48264858
I bet you hated the Sopranos too for having realistic sex and violence
>>48264938
You tried, and that's what counts.
>>48264535
I feel like they took too many pages giving the characters who died like three pages later was unnecessary.
>>48264535
No. While it may have competent pcs, the world building and setting are retardedly shallow and only serves to make sure there more violence and edginess for the writer to make.
Essentially, it's another Attack on Titan. The latest in a lo g li e of series trying to rude off the fame of Berserk without actually understanding what makes series like Berserk and Vinland Saga good
>>48265052
My phone hates the letter N for some reason
>>48264535
No, the only thing to take out of Goblin Slayer is the Goblin Slayer himself, and only as a bit NPC you show off once to flavor the world before tucking him away forever.
Dog Days is more /tg/ material, and it's mostly pornography without the porn.
I'm not going to go as far as to say it's good but I'm definitely interested. It seems like the bulk of the rape, which wasn't really that much, is over too. I'm assuming from here on, the story will be the MC training the Priestess on how to remove kegob.
>>48265131
I ran an entire, multi-year campaign that took place in the Dog Days setting.
>>48264979
Remember how you were given a protagonist like group of characters at start and get them all maimed or killed by the end of chapter 1 in full metal daemon?
Yeah its like that.
>>48265052
The story is NOTHING like Berserker.
The main characters are a bunch of not-really nobody but quite nobody who deal with trivia tasks that you hand over to NPCs in D&D.
>>48265146
Actually this the only rape that actually have feature in story so far.
Its more of a hook.
>>48264535
Just read it today. I am sold on it I love it
>>48264958
Not an argument
>>48265146
Just faggots from tumblr triggered by any kind of sexual violence
You'd think it was just 100 pages of green dicks in bleeding pussies
>>48265542
There's a fine line between the use of sexual violence as a storytelling tool and as cheap shock value. Goblin Slayer is very much the latter.
>>48265601
there really isn't.
You can easily argue a scene for either in many cases.
>>48265601
>Evil creatures who revel in causing suffering would not rape someone
>a grisly scene of carnage and mayhem isn't shock value, but rape is
Never read Berserk please
Or anything written before christianity for that matter
>>48265647
>Or anything written before christianity
Clearly you haven't seen half the stuff in the Old Testament. They absolutely did not fuck around.
![bishop1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LP6EXyO.jpg "bishop1[1].jpg")
>>48265647
>Or anything written before christianity for that matter
Bruh, the Bible is fucking brutal at times. Especially the Old Testament. Or what about all the accounts of (especially early) saints and the ways they died. There's a reason why France's patron saint (no, not Jeanne d'Arc, the other one. No, not Saint Louis, the OTHER other one) is always depicted carrying his own head in his hands.
>>48265697
OT is pre-christianity
>>48265722
Shock factor garbage
Violence and sex contribute nothing to a story and only happen at extremely rare times
>>48265725
Yeah, and the Christians illustrated it.
>>48265647
i am pretty sure there are few scenes in Berserker about evil creature raping women too.
>>48265754
Exactly
Apparently one rape scene is enough for a story to become irrevocably "bad"
![1465580119920[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uIaOxkg.jpg "1465580119920[1].jpg")
>>48265822
>Apparently one rape scene is enough for a story to become irrevocably "bad"
The part where it became irrevocably bad is the part where it started looking like an early playstation game.
>>48265867
What are you talking about? The Berserk anime is from 1997, they didn't make anything else
Anything
>>48264535
So far it's good
>>48265722
Why is his halo on his neckhole?
>>48266301
>Why is his halo on his neckhole?
It seemed like the most holy place to put it
>>48266495
>lepunspic.jpg
>>48264535
Just read it. It was schlocky garbage mishmashing western media with the worst of Japanese without seeming to have any understanding. There's a fucking "goblin baby what do" in the first 2 issues of "Goblin 2000AD." The art even sucks, there are copy pasted poses all over the first chapter!
Berserk, to contrast, is better in all ways. The only saving grace of Goblin Slayers is that it could eventually be good but I doubt it.
>when the squad goes out to jump some fools but y'all a bunch of bitches
>>48264535
I mildly dislike it. The art is not amazing but it isn't terrible or incompetent. It evokes the feeling that the artist would rather draw edgy rape and shit and rely on that cool factor rather than improve his artwork, unlike Ubel Blatt, which has superior art to back up the cheese, or Berserk who does the dark fantasy with far more sophistication and phenomenal art.
You can tell from the generic character designs, background NPCs, and architecture, this manga would have been easily adapted from a random nameless eroge or another random shitty Japanese fantasy setting with the exact same Slayer-esque clothing despite the year being 2016 and anachronistic architecture.
This is basically a shitty high fantasy version of Akame ga Kiru with a protag with an xration face.
>>48267092
The art is beyond shitty. This is literally the first page of the manga after the color splats (which of course involve a woman who pissed herself).
>>48267165
There is far worse manga and doujin art.
>>48267165
>>48267180
>but... but... other manga have even shittier art!
OK? What a meaningless defense. Shitty, lazy art isn't a relative measure it's a bar that this manga cannot overcome.
>>48267092
Daily reminder that goblin slayer was a online-light novel from Japan and the artist merely do the Manga version for it.
and no you get everything about the story wrong.
Its about a mid-ranged party working on trivia tasks while the big name heroes saving the world elsewhere.
>>48267222
You failing to acknowledge that there is a vast scale between bottom of the barrel professional manga art and best in the industry, and the fact that Goblin Slayer is nowhere near the bottom just proves you're a whiny faggot.
"Other art is shittier" IS an argument, when so much of it is SO MUCH fucking shittier. Would you rather eat a bad tasting meal or a pile of dog shit?
>>48267231
Too bad that post had nothing to do with the storyline. And 99% of "light novel to manga" titles are shit anyway.
>>48267165
That art is fine. There is plenty of worse art, even in goblin slayer itself. Like every shot of the poorly draw
>>48267275
>Would you rather eat a bad tasting meal or a pile of dog shit?
That's a retarded false dichotomy. Why would I eat either when there is a wide array of much, much better food to pick from?
You are the reason Pathfinder exists.
>>48267314
You must be blind to the level of laziness involved in that clip.
>>48267303
You claim he is just doing edgy shit instead of improving his art work, but all he does is draw what the novel wrote. so that's simply untrue.
and no most light novel-based managas are actually at least readable even when the source wasn't that good.
>>48267342
Your poor reading comprehension matches your dismal taste.
>>48267165
Wait, okay, let's step back for a second. What.. exactly... is wrong with this picture?
>>48267364
So you are just a troll making false accusations and insults
got it.
>>48267386
From the tits down they are the same model and pose.
>>48267389
I wasn't even who you were applying to, but I can clearly read "It evokes the feeling that the artist..."
As for your shitty taste, you are propping up light novel manga in this thread.
>>48267415
>literally irrelevant side character uses half of the same skeleton (and nothing else) from a character in the foreground
>ACTUAL GARBAGE
...what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>48267460
I have a standard for quality that is above yours. Enjoy your shit taste.
>>48267439
and this feeling is wrong because of my statement, end of story.
what? you never read Spice and Wolf or Small Haruhi Suzumiya?
some light novel manga run into the problem of never having the time to finish the story line, but most of them range from readable to good.
terrible job at pretending btw.
>>48267498
Enjoy pointedly not enjoying things, I guess.
>>48267460
And those "character in the background" are literally 1/4 the first page, and the copy is literally standing right next to the other.
>>48267460
That guy is just a troll, he is already same-fagging.
Haven't read it, but besides just the immediate red flag warning of having so many shock value factors so early (sexual violence is fine if its well written, but if its not its just horrible), another thing that makes me distrustful of it is that it seems like its trying to take the piss out of rpg tropes.
Like, why? What exactly is the point or thematic signifcance of a cutesie rpg party getting raped because they're suddenly in a dark, gritty, low fantasy world instead of where they'd make sense?
There are parodies and deconstructions that make sense and have something interesting to say, and then there's stuff like this where it just seems like the author is grasping to be edgy and hip.
Also fuck that art style.
>>48267520
*that. It's just the one. Also, that's not the entire first page. It's one corner of the first page. Actual space taken up by that background character isn't even a tenth of the page, and even then, it's literally just her hips and legs that are the same. Nothing else, not even the clothes covering them. It's not great or anything, but it's hardly trash. It's mediocre at worst.
>>48267534
First page has the character in the OP pissing herself in full color, you are managing to underestimate how stupid this manga is.
Oh, and the "adventure sheet" needed to apply to the guild is literally a 5e character sheet.
>>48267560
>I'm defending shitty art so hard I have to distinguish "trash" from "just bad"
ISHYGDDT
>>48267603
>Oh, and the "adventure sheet" needed to apply to the guild is literally a 5e character sheet.
See, this is what I'm talking about.
If it was a gritty low/dark fantasy with a gritty art style and a realistic depiction of everything, it would seem more coherent for me.
But instead its a gritty dark/low fantasy that inexplicably has cutesie rpg elements that make no sense whatsoever in context with the dark/low/realistic fantasy elements.
>>48265988
Don't lump the more recent golden age movies in with the new one. That siege in the first one was fucking amazing
How would these guys have done in that cave?
>>48267715
>what is contrast?
>>48265743
Someone doesn't like Berserk.
>>48267824
>lol it's expectations versus reality!
Fans of this manga are garbage.
>>48267797
Those two bows and the buckler were all the minimum advantage the noob party needs.
By the way, /a/ tries to defend the series by saying that the guild did all they could to prevent the quest from going to such a bad end, and the guild shouldn't care so much about losing adventurers even if it happens in a daily basis. It this true in a typical /tg/-style guild?
>>48267824
It has to make sense is the thing.
Like this picture right here. >>48267165 if this kind of armor is so useless, and so likely to get you killed, why does it exist? Why is it a thing that you're likely to run into in a guild? Why do guilds and adventure parties exist in this kind of universe? Is the author just trying to be cool by "deconstructing" "tropes"? Probably.
If you're going to "deconstruct" something, it has to make sense, and it has to have a point. There's no point of "injecting reality into a trope" if your basis for doing so makes even less sense from a logical/reality perspective.
Also contrasting cutesie art styles with brutal darkness is a thing that *can* work. But like other shock value factors, its something that requires a high level of skill and execution, and thus its another "red flag" warning that makes me distrustful of whether the author has the chops for it.
>>48267886
Not everything is a deconstruction
This is what's called "playing for drama"
The idea isn't "tee hee, stupid adventurers in a stupid fantasy world would get rekt"
It's more like "here are the ramifications of the tropes, how does it affect the lives of the characters?"
>>48267918
That *is* a deconstruction though.
And that's what I'm saying. It attempts to show the rammifications of the tropes, but it doesn't give a logical explanation for why those tropes should exist in-universe in the first place.
The ramifications need to be logical, but the set up of the story needs to be logical too, otherwise its just hypocritical. and falls into the first "idea" you posted.
>>48265160
Tell us about this? It had to have been better than fucking season 3 fucking whales. I just wanted FUN
>>48267918
The last thing you listed is actually what a deconstruction is, "tee hee..." is a subversion.
That aside, I'm willing to wait and give the series some chapters before I form a firm opinion but as it stands, it doesn't seem like there was any need to show the brutalization of the newbie party. I actually liked the second chapter a bit for some, "Oh, that's pretty clever" moments but the first chapter was pretty distasteful to me. I'm pretty on the fence until we get more.
>>48267863
The guild did basically nothing to save them. The girl at the desk knew they were all going to die and let them go anyway. There need to be party composition rules, obviously. Newb party would have rocked that cave if they showed up with four heavily armored guys with short spears or pitchforks. Or at least make them bring someone who knows what they're doing.
>>48267957
No
Deconstruction implies the trope is specifically being explored to show how it's unrealistic, poorly thought out, or impractical. It's a commentary on the storytelling device. Meta.
When a trope is played for drama the serious or melodramatic elements are played up for emotional impact. It's character based.
>>48267715
>But instead its a gritty dark/low fantasy that inexplicably has cutesie rpg elements that make no sense whatsoever in context with the dark/low/realistic fantasy elements.
A series that has a cutesie, rpg style to it that is a dark/low/realistic fantasy in action could make for an interesting work. The issue is that Goblin Slayer comes off as exploitation from the outset.
>>48268014
From distant spoilers,the Gobslayer suffered a less than flawless victory only once. The other adventurers were, in a nutshell, fucked over by bad luck.
>>48267957
nope, this serie actually go over the top and tell you this is literally a TRPG world where every god works as a DM.
>>48268014
One question:
They show the brutalization of the newbie party, right?
Do they also show the goblin babies getting splattered?
It would be hilarious to me if it was okay to show a girl getting gang raped, but not okay to show some cartoony goblin babies getting killed. That's the real horror, right there.
Also now that I think about it, the goblin baby seen looks so melodramatic and cliche. Fuck. 'Least it makes a good meme picture though.
I'll commend the writer if GS doesn't have some tragic backstory involving goblins.
It'd be interesting if he's just a psycho killer and uses goblins to avoid trouble, or if he's working on behalf of someone else who despises goblins.
>>48264535
Eh, it's one of those I'll read because I can get it for free, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
>>48268073
You'd be surprised. The babby gobs were off-paneled and not much gore was shown. All the rape scenes were gobs stuck on the rumps of their victims.
>>48268032
>Deconstruction implies the trope is specifically being explored to show how it's unrealistic, poorly thought out, or impractical.
Yeah, and isn't that what it is when you show a fighter who didn't wear enough armor getting wrecked in places where he didn't have armor? It seems a clear deconstruction (or attempt at deconstruction) of rpg tropes such as the lightly armored fighter class.
>>48268068
Well, I'm convinced. It's shit.
Quick questions,
Isn't this just a 1e player party?
Isn't this just Tucker's Kobolds but with Gobbos?
>>48268131
Based on chapter 2, the goblins aren't actually very smart even at their best, it's mostly overconfidence and underpreparedness that gets people killed on them. The Goblin Slayer's handling of them isn't nearly as resourceful as your average Dungeon Meshi chapter, he's just applying the level of tactics the average DnD player does and he's well aware of it.
>>48267824
>>48267886
An example of a work that does a good job of that would be School-Live!.
>>48268120
The emotional buildup prior to the massacre makes it clear that we're seeing this as a drama.
Kamina being killed horribly in Gurren Lagann for acting like an idiot isn't meant to make us think "lol, fucking teenagers piloting mechas how absurd?"
We're meant to think "oh no, damn his foolish choices!"
>>48268240
Actually, there's no more rape after this. There is also roughly the same amount of slaughter, but the disconnect between the GS' progress in battle with how others fare with goblins is too jarring.
>>48268240
And if you're going to do it as a drama, it has to make sense.
As said, why would the guild let an unprepared adventuring party into a place where they could get gang raped? Why and how do "adventuring guilds" exist in a such a gritty setting? Why does thong armor exist when its guaranteed to get you killed in this universe? Who sells that shit? Nothing makes sense, and as a result the drama and setting as a whole looks like cheap grasping.
Like I said, if it was a gritty dark fantasy, with a gritty aesthetic, about a sheltered wide eyed idealist who ventures out into the world, witnesses brutal horrors, and ends up tagging alongside an experienced hunter as part of a skull crushing game of underground cat and mouse, that would make more sense. Hell, that sounds way more engaging to me.
As is, it looks like a collection of try-hard cliches thrown into a blender in a fairly one-dimensional way. I don't see much point to it.
>>48268182
I'd give him a little more than that. The average DnD player reads things off of their character sheet, and I feel like throwing down a torch followed by a throwing knife and leading the goblins back to a simple trap ambush is a step above average.
I feel like a lot of the hate in this thread is pissy and unjustified and sort of orbits around the rape as a huge moral outrage and the worst thing ever.
So far, this seems decent. It's not amazing, but it's a fairly entertaining read if you don't get too wound up and upset with its flaws.
>>48268349
The hate are generated mostly by people who didn't even finish the first chapter, take a guess.
>>48268349
To be fair, anything can be enjoyed if you can give it enough leeway. Too late for it, though. Too many people are already selling this hard and complaints are being volleyed back.
>>48268342
Keep in mind, the priestess along with her party are viewpoint characters. They coming along for the journey into this alien world with us. Remember LOTR? The shire is familiar, for an englishman who grw up in turn of the century rural england it provides a sense of place and time from which we can venture into this fantastical realm. We're just as innocent as Frodo and Sam when they crossed out of Eastfarthing.
The party is meant to provide both emotional investment and familiarity, These people were her friends after all.
>>48268404
Honestly, I kind of like the concept, but most manga writing doesn't impress me, and I'm not seeing many arguments in its favor that make it sound like anything more than another flavor of the month.
>>48268349
I thought the second chapter was alright but I thought the first chapter was tasteless. I don't have any problem with rape, in fact I'd go so far as to call myself a fetishist, it's just that I didn't think I'd have lost out on anything at all aside from a boner if they skipped that part entirely. Chapter 2 establishes everything that appears to be important about this series.
That aside, this is just kind of how 4chan works. There're a lot of worse series and I'm pretty optimistic about this one after the second chapter, but people're going to complain when something gets over-exposure. I don't even think it's the fabled 4chan Contrarian Disease.
How I see it is that people read something, some people like it, and some people hate it. For the most part, neither group has a reason to bring it up. Eventually though, someone who likes it will bring it up to find like-minded fans, and that's how a thread gets rolling.
Over time as people become aware that there're more and more people enjoying the same work, they bring it up more. Eventually we have 5 threads in two days and the people who disliked it but were quiet up until this point get fed up because they're stuck seeing it when they don't have to.
And then we end up here.
>>48268471
You bring up a good comparison. The Shire.
The Shire, and why it works the way it does, makes sense in the context of Middle Earth. The Country Englishmen stand-ins are thoroughly explored, and as a result they don't feel out of place at all compared to the rest of the setting.
Can GS's adventuring guild and cutesie rpg elements really say the same?
>>48268539
Moving away from the style issues, I'm more concerned about the guild. I was expecting them to be more preserving of the adventurers, since they will be the ones who keep the "pests" away from town and they complement the presence (or lack thereof) of militia or actual town soldiers. But I found them too lax despite the constant problems involving adventuring failures.
I've read both chapters so far and while i'm not a stickler about rape, I am a stickler about shit being aggressively boring.
And this is aggressively boring and uninteresting. I have no idea how it became a /tg/ darling especially since /tg/ apparently wants to fuck goblins like it's going out of style.
>>48268655
There's probably too many porcelain level adventurers. That one guild hall looked pretty packed and the narrator made a point of saying these level 1 party wipes "happened all the time".
>>48268674
For better or for worse I have a feeling this one won't have a lot of lasting power on this board.
>>48268539
This story seems largely bottom-up worldbuilding
Time will tell
>>48268655
Reminds me of the jerks who'd hire inexperienced kids to do mercenary work with the expectation that they'd die but give the real soldiers time to plan things out
>>48268704
I don't think so either. Shit like Meshi doesn't take itself that seriously, has more charming art, and is a different affair from grimdark fantasy manga. Gobbo slayer feels like someone saw Berserk and went 'Hey I could do better'.
>>48268473
its a book solely about mid-range works of the not-hero middle range adventures.
if Platinum adventure are the PCs, then they will be those lv8 NPCs.
lol
The "Gods" are literally humans IRL
One is a loli pouting after a shit roll
>>48268539
The world IS a RPG world where the gods throw literal dice.
Goblin pops up everywhere because their creator is a douche who likes to fuck with people.
>>48268655
The guild is not the babysitter, they can't force someone to not go to their demise if they insist.
The guild lady did told them to wait for a high-level adventure to be their guide for this
In short, there's no way to save retards in any world.
>>48264535
Please stop making threads about this shitty manga.
>>48268877
No, a nip read about Judge Dredd once and tried to make fantasy 2000AD based off teh other dungeon flavor of the month series that have cropped up.
>>48269114
Fantasy 2000AD manga would be baller but this manga has absolutely none of the charm 2000 AD would have.
>>48268939
Why is a loli playing a game with gang rape in it
>>48268945
Fuck that, this panel is literally the only warning given and the priestess was literally standing at the counter after having just filed her paperwork.
Any guild that let a person less than 1 minute in the guild trot off to their doom with a "warning" like this is the lowest tier worldbuilding.
>>48269180
Because there already are plenty of shojo comics with rape scenes in it.
Its not really a big deal in Japan.
>>48269234
yeah i don't know what with this panel.
In the novel the guild miss specificly told them that someone higher rank will come take them on the mission (goblin slayer always come in afternoon)
The rape isn't obscene, it just feels tacky.
'Look how DARK and OBSCENE we are and DUMB PEOPLE get BRUTALLY MURDERED and the girls RAPED because this is a dark, sick, grim realistic world.'
It's not terrible or grotesque, it just feels tacky and there for the sake of schlocky B-movie horror.
>>48269355
One time a few thousand kids tried to peacefully reclaim the holy land and wound up as arabian fucktoys
Shit happens dude
>>48269234
oh and as stated above, there's absolutely no world building in this.
The entire world is a TRPG table that Gods (IRL humans) screw with.
There's no world building to look at.
>>48269397
And if you told a story about it, I'd expect it to have half-decent writing and storytelling, tackling the subject matter with some degree of intelligence and story-telling finesse.
>>48269430
The Odyssey doesn't have much worldbuilding and the gods treat humans like chess pieces
>>48267863
The guild did literally nothing to stop a group of first time amatuars from taking a mission that they weren't ready for. I mean I know the fighter was close to brain dead for thinking, "hurr durr we'll assault a goblin nest with no preparation, planning, tactics, or teambuilding." But atleast have some kind of skill barrier for the missions. At least one adventurer that is of a rank equal to or exceeds the danger of the mission, or assign number values to ranks and if all together the party's number is the same or more as the mission number.
Holyshit though that fighter was so stupid it hurts to think about. You met these people that day, you don't know their abilities, you haven't practiced moving in formation and you don't even use any teamwork. Didn't scout the cave, didn't research goblin habits or ask for tips from other adventurers. There were dozens of things the party could have done to prepare and they did exactly zero of it. I guess it makes sense they got abosultely butchered within 5min of entering the cave.
>>48269529
Are you seriously comparing the odyssey to a fucking light novel/manga series?
>>48269552
Personally I would've been okay with that if they set a precedence for goblins being easy fodder, but the story makes itself pretty clear that the goblins have been a problem for awhile and that it's actually a very common occurrence for new adventurer groups to be destroyed by them. I just can't understand how someone takes to this attitude in-universe.
>>48269529
>>48269557
Greek myth itself was already established, and there was real thematic relevance to the way the gods behaved which embodied the Greeks views on the universe and life.
The gods being fickle assholes in every story actually had a point to it.
>>48264535
I'm inclined to like it because I like Goblinslayer himself, but all I can feel reading it is that the story is moving at 10x too fast a pace.
If the story-arc leading up to the first group's destruction had lasted ten issues, but had the same result, and did not drop so many anvils, I would like this story a lot more.
>>48269611
I personally would've hated that if we reached the same result a different way. I'd be bothered that I wasted so much time following these characters instead of hopping right into the story, I want to go the opposite way and just start from... wherever the hell is actually relevant to the story.
>>48269583
They imply the gobbos have been buffed recently by their creator
>>48269583
because while goblin in their cave are scary, they are weaker than dogs on the ground.
Almost anybody can kill some goblins with ease.
Its like how you kill cockroach with ease and won't consider them a viable threat.
If you heard someone gets killed cockroach you will just think" nah that's can't be true".
Later part there's an assembled 1000 goblin army get easily destroyed.
>>48269675
English isn't your first language is it?
>>48269696
nope, that's why I can read the original Japanese. novel
>>48269552
It's possible that they have no authroity to do that--it's also possible that that's why Goblin Slayer was sent there, because someone with more authority noticed that a bunch of scrubs had taken a job way out of their depth.
>>48264535
Stop shilling Goblin Slayer!
Why /tg/ shills Goblin Slayer?
I don't like it because he doesn't darksouls his way through.
He should be individually backstabbing and parrying/riposting every individual goblin, and I will not stand for anything less.
Goblon Slayer feels like a D&D session where the players wanted to ditch the DM's super cool DMPC and go dungeon crawling, and the DM retaliates by fudging the dice rolls with the first goblin trash mob the party faces and then gleefully starts narrating about how the goblins rape and eat the party.
Then the DM has his DMPC show up to save the sole survivor of the party wipe and then kill all the goblins to demonstrate just how totally badass and cool his OC Donut Steel is.
>>48267863
Yeah, the guild was like: "Oh well, another group down the drain." I mean, they apparently sent that Goblin Slayer dude after them, but they could've prevented the whole mess by simply telling the group to stand the fuck down or get thrown out of the guild right at that counter.
I thought it was pretty funny.
>>48270839
Nah the real DMPC gets mentioned way... later.
He found the sword of legend by just walking around.
Then go around killing everything the demon lord have and defeated the demon lord
One-shot Demon councilors and shit (one of these guy's 2nd rate servant almost wiped goblin slayer's group)
>>48265743
Someone is retarded.
Those weeb fags will defend anything these days.
GS is for edgy teenagers who can't bother to read actual literature, just deal with it.
>>48264535
Not yet, but I am probably going to read more.
I'm a bit put off by the unnecessary rape and gory bits, but I like the way Gobslayer handles shit.
>>48269772
It's summer and we see annual influx of teenage edgelords
>>48264535
Frankly it's pretty ridiculous.
The entire initial beginning relies on all the heroes acting like they live in a rates G MMO Japanese Fantasy world, except CLEARLY they don't and somehow not only they but much of their culture is somehow unaware of it without explanation to a level that is basically pure writer fiat then any form of real logic behind it at all.
In actual history when the world was that dangerous people weren't magically unaware of it; even in peaceful places they were AWARE you weren't some badass invincible dude who could kill a million guys.
Basically this is a manga that WOULD have been very genre deconstructing maybe a decade or two ago, but unfortunately he published it way too late and instead of really deconstructing anything new he's just being edgy for the sake of edgy.
>>48272553
Let's not forget that despite showing us how regular fantasy stuff wouldn't work in a "realistic" setting, Goblin Slayer's own armor is pretty unrealistic in some parts and his sword looks like it would weight maybe 15 solid pounds.
I know that's part of artistic license taken on part of the manga version compared to the novel but it's still an oversight, and the entire thing reads like it's trying WAY too hard most of the time.
>>48265647
I'm pretty sure most people like me read Berserk for amazing art and cool stuff, not edgy parts. Second duel with Zodd was fucking amazing.
>>48272683
The reunion on the hill of swords is awesome not just for the action but for the sheer emotional power of it.
You can see that Guts can barely believe Griffith is there, and how he wants Griffith to admit he was wrong because once they were BEST FRIENDS and his betrayal hurt Guts.
Even Griffith's impassive emotionless mask is telling in that he basically outright confirms that Guts was DEFINITELY the most important person in his life before, as he was the only person who could ever "move his heart" away from his dream.
>>48272440
>GS is for edgy teenagers who can't bother to read actual literature, just deal with it.
There's that Wolfsmund series that covers just that much, much more effective.
In comparison, this one's yet another: "what if Dragon Quest were real somewhere"-story.
>>48269529
... and for having thought they were only chess pieces, Aphrodite and Ares get almost killed by Diomedes.
>>48272553
This.
It bugs me when stories do this. Like the great hero/villain gets an arrow between the eyes because they don't wear a helmet.
I like some animation that has the 'Mighty Champion' shot in the head but he appears several episodes later to challenge the archer and can actually deflect flurries of arrows so it appears he really doesn't need a helmet. The dead warrior is implied to be a fake, like Patroclus (killed by Hector) to Achilles, who should have been wearing a helmet.
>>48264535
>WAAAHH STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE:The Thread.
The amount of nitpicking from easily triggered white knight fatbeards is astounding. Goblin Slayer isn't even that edgy when it comes to what miseryfests Japan churns out.
stop complaining about people complaining about things they don't like.
>>48273181
The thread posed a question and some people expressed that they like it and some people expressed that they didn't. If you'd rather circle jerk over Goblin Slayer, please make a thread to that effect.
>>48273181
Yeah, we should disregard it's failings because it's not the absolute rock bottom of Japanese fiction.
It's interesting
>>48275380
You should add sage and not bump this thread
>>48275398
Why?
I'll never understand the appeal of the settings which take game rules and turn them into a central part of the world. Magic loses its magic when it is turned into stacking healing potions, learning fireballs and managing mana.
>>48265052
Attack on Titan doesn't have shallow world building.
>>48264535
It's no Vinland Saga but is't passable... it made me cuckle and these days thats an acomplishment
OK you're a goon but what's a goon to a goblin?
>>48264845
I read dungeon meshi recently, Goblin Slayer is vastly superior.
Dungeon meshi is however much more approachable, so it'll still be more popular.
I liked it, made me want to read other japanese comics about dungeon dwelling.
>>48265601
Not really. Goblins kidnapping maidens and reproducing with them is a fairly common trope. What I like about Goblin Slayer is it's realism to things like how using a longsword in a tight cavern is a bad idea, how GS finds weapons on site, how instead of being over powered main character number 9233939 he planned and laid traps for common Goblins, how armor actually works like it should, adventurers easily missing a fork path because they weren't cautious enough, and the fact that creatures with the strength of human children managed to defeat arguably strong adventurers because they had zero experience in dungeon dwelling.
I think what's going on here is that a lot of people are being triggered because japanese cartoon protagonist trope characters number 1 and 2 died for Goblins.
>>48267498
>Being this buttmad at a background drawing for characters that never appear again on a low budget mango
wew
>>48267165
Wow sorry let me just finely detail each individual character to please you. Let me make sure each and every line is finely crafted.
what the fuck is even wrong with the art its better than what you or I can do
ITT: aggressive /a/ shitposters crapping about on /tg/
goblin slayer is shit, get this thread out of here.
>>48279231
I don't know man, people talking about GS having too much shock value to them seem to be much more aggressive than anything else.
Also, GS involves cute anime girls dying, I don't think /a/ likes that very much considering how the only mangos they enjoy are moe shit.
>>48267275
If there was only bad tasting meal or pile of dog shit tier manga, I would stop reading them. But luckily there are still tons of better meals out there, so you don't need to stick to shit ones like GS.
>>48278847
>Longsword a bad idea
It wasn't the longsword, it was the swinging it around like an idiot and not training to fight as a team. Longswords work fine in tight spaces if you train for it.
>>48279282
I still don't see how having a simple background makes this a "bad tasting meal".
Why are you focusing on the most autistic flaw in it?
>>48279328
It's easy to call her an idiot for swinging it around like that, but I'd probably do the same. Considering how angry I would be that a friend of mine is dying from something that should be extremely easy to kill.
>>48279106
The first chapter is supposed to be above average, to drag in attention and tell you the plot of the manga. When the first fucking page has copypasted characters, you can expect it to get even worse as it goes.
Also, "you can't do better" is not an argument. I can't make a TV, but it never stopped anyone from complaining when they got a broken one.
>>48279395
While I do agree that "you can't do better" is a shit argument, your argument of "It's not shit right now, but it'll be shit because the background in one of the panels wasn't amazing" is just as retarded.
I mean seriously, there are actual flaws here we can discuss, why are you sticking to this extremely retarded point?
>>48279331
>Why are you focusing on the most autistic flaw in it?
I am not the guy you replied earlier, I am just pointing that your argument does not hold any ground. Something being good is not relative, if all manga had shit art, all of them would have shit art, simple as that, you can't convince anyone that a shit art is not shit because there are people who are even shittier.
>>48279438
>It's not shit right now
I never said it is not shit right now. And since the first chapter that is supposed to be above average is shit, you can only expect the worse.
>>48279487
Alright, then instead of giving reasons as to why it might be worse later on (The art not being amazing) Why don't you point out why it's shit right now?
>>48267633
>I think everything that's not good is complete shit
>>48279603
Everything that is not at least good is unreadable and should be discarded.
Do you divide the shit you take into good ones and bad ones before you flush?
>>48279712
>>48279603
You're both idiots, the argument here is not weather anything below good is acceptable or not, it's weather this is good or not.
>>48279527
The whole thread is a discussion as to why it is shit in both art and plot. I have already discussed this shit in /a/, so I don't want parrot everything I said earlier.
>>48279750
Well tough shit, you're not at /a/ right now and no one from that thread is here. And even if the art really was below average, (Which I'm not saying it is) that doesn't make the whole thing shit, it just makes something lacking in the art department. And not even that is the case here, what it it does with visuals is more than enough to be considered at VERY least good.
>>48265601
The rape scene early on is short and largely non explicit.
Feels like I should give the series a little more time. I've only seen two chapters available in English, so give it a chance to expand. I've seen some color pics with other characters, maybe the players learn and make more capable PCs.
PS, shock moments like this don't seem too out of place for me. I've had GMs do the same in everything from DnD to Pokemon, where they just throw us in. In Pokemon's place it was that the real world doesn't behave exactly like the games when it comes to battling.
>>48279750
>I have already discussed this shit in /a/
go back to /a/ if you like it there so much
>>48279750
>I don't want parrot everything I said earlier
But you're still arguing about the art being shit, aren't you? What's new here?
>>48279807
Not an argument
>>48279807
If you don't want to bring up /a/, then complain about the OP who posted an opinion about /a/ on /tg/.
>>48279951
it's as much of one as "yeah well I won an internet argument on /a/ so I win"
>>48279749
Do you even read? It is what I said, unless you consider shit acceptable. Being acceptable is basically a prerequisite for something being good.
What's the release schedule for this? Is it a new monthly?
>>48280031
>Do you even read?
>He says while misinterpreting what I wrote
I said that weather being below good is acceptable or not is idiotic to discuss, the argument should be weather or not the comic is good or shit. You two were just arguing about weather or not being below good is still acceptable, and that's a retarded argument to have from both parties.
>>48280105
whether whether whether.
>>48280105
It's whether, and if you followed the discussion, the guy is trying to convince me that even though it is shit, it is acceptable.
>>48280147
>>48280125
My bad, whether* No excuses, literal retardation from my part here.
Yeah I followed the discussion, I'm just saying it's dumb to discuss that at all.
Arguments about the quality barely happened, the only image posted to argue that it's badly drawn was a screenshot of one panel's background zoomed in, I don't think that's enough to call it a day and say it has shit art.
>>48280203
It's fine, and I wasn't trying to use it as like a "you're wrong because ur spelling r bad" deal, just bothered me.
>>48264535
I prefer Dungeon Meshi as my go-to dungeoneering manga.
>>48265722
The Old Testament was written per-Christianity.
>>48268185
School-Live is literally one of the worst anime ever aired though
>>48279106
I can do better, but don't have to. I'm not selling a product based on my art.
>>48280203
>zoomed in
Nah, bro that shit was captured at the size of the scan. That shit is like 1/4 the first page.
