Monday Night Age of Darkness Smackdown
Guys, don't have a case of the Mondays Sub-Edition
In the last thread one post about Dorn lead to what he's done with his life, indecisive anon became a BAfag thanks to Polk, IG vs SA posting happened, expect to see more horned marines later on, discussion on non-marine Land Raiders was made, non-Servatar chainglaves aren't that nice, one Anon had a brainfart, we saw one Anon's model with questionable hair and Anons argued about Indominatus plus much more in the last thread >>48220414
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>>48234777
It was Monday, ok? That's the reason for the brainfart, don't see why we should carry it over in this new papa Nurgle thread.
why is sanguinius so overrated?
the only battle he fought he lost horribly.
>Dorn wasn't stalking my dreams last night
Thank you Man Emperor Urist for keeping your son out of my dreams. But he did replace Xenomorphs with Dorn though strangely enough.
Why hasn't Inwit been expanded on?
>>48235085
Because Necromunda is far more interesting.
>>48235085
Just what is there to expand on?
>>48235085
Hopefully it will be in Dorn's book from the Primarchs subseries.
I also hope we get some Blackshield short stories from the BL.
Wanting to get some more veterans for my AL, what MK should I get? Note i'm going to probably run them in power swords, so i'm thinking MK III
>>48235441
MkIII is my favorite, and would make sense for a Veteran. Only one that'd be more 'Veteran' than MkIII would be MkII.
So where do I find the lore that said Dorn kept the robe of the old man that raised him, and even went to bed with it?
I accidently the 40k general.
>>48235665
I noticed. Please stay in a pain glove and don't come out until the weekend.
>>48235665
You could have just said "Tau" and it would have had the same effect.
>>48235714
No pain glove for me, going to go get decimated instead.
>>48235732
Probably.
>>48235665
It's caused by one single shitlord. He's in this thread too, we're just smart enough not to take his bait. You should be able to find his post easily.
>>48235745
>No pain glove for me, going to go get decimated instead.
Oh no you don't. You're getting both.
>>48235751
Please don't start anything. We're already in Fist Land and let's stay that way.
I can't take this game seriously because whenever I hear the name I just hear "Horsey Horsey".
>>48235782
>Oh no you don't. You're getting both.
I think I'm fine, decimation sounds good right now.
>>48235799
My sides, anon!
>>48235799
All I hear is Whores Hearsay, which is an apt name for most BL drivel.
>>48235799
Alliteration is fun alright? You know the Horus Heresy is also called the Heresy Wars and the Age of Darkness? Which one of those can you take seriously?
>>48235751
>shitlord
try to post on topic next time. faggot
>>48235821
>I think I'm fine, decimation sounds good right now.
Yeah no. You're going to get both and take it like a man.
>>48235822
>Whores Hearsay
I think one Anon mentioned some 40k hentai with a name like that in a thread I was in a year or two ago.
Whatre you working on tonight?
>>48236480
My first tonk. Just need to put on the rest of the tracks and it'll be finished.
>>48236480
scratch building a legion delegatus from a Betrayal marine plus some extra bits (Blood angels dagger and 2 handed sword, pointing marine vet hand)
I did a pretty extensive repose so their leg is propped up on a sunken piece of debris
>>48236569
Is it just me or is that nipplecannon a little. . .off? Like it's not just off centered, but somehow just not right? I'm not trying to critique you or anything, I just noticed and now I can't stop staring.
>>48236888
Nah, it is off-center, or at least the hole in the barrel is. It's annoying me.
Also, the wire I bought to pin the arms of my guardsmen is just a tiny bit too small to stick in the holes that even my smallest drill bit makes. Oh well, either I'll buy a slightly larger set of wire, or just hope they don't get knocked off while priming.
>>48237009
>wire
just get some paperclips bro, they're practically free
>>48237016
Eh, true enough. Though I'm pretty sure the ones I have around my house are actually a little too large, unfortunately.
>Our planet is found by the great crusade just before the Ullanor campaign.
Could we, the 30k fandom, prevent the heresy?
>>48236480
nice alpharius model
What support dreads, boxes, flyers, and superheavies best fit with Death Guard? This is what I currently have being painted.
mortarion
10 grave warden
10 deathshroud
10x lascannon marines
Leviathan Dreadnought (phosphex discharger, heavy flamers 1 drill 1 claw)
9x Space Marine Rapier Quad Mortar
Space Marine Apothecary Set
10x Cataphracti Terminators Came with calych sets, lan to make them spam plasma
2x Calth box Praetor
2x calth box chaplain as artificer praetors
calth box contemptor 2 kheres
calth box contemptor 2 fist in built graviton gun
10x autocannon marines
10x heavy flamer marines
38x marines with boltor, pistol, cc weapon
4x sergeant
6 flamer
6 melta
6 plasma
>>48237235
We live on Holy Terra you dumbass.
>>48237312
Leviathan because phosphex.
>>48237312
typhon
Mixing armor parts; is this verboten?
I was wondering if I could do something like, say, have a Mk II helmet on Mk IV torso using Mk VI legs? The assumption being, of course, that they had to cannibalize parts where needed.
I just want to know what I can and can't use. All i'm aware of is 'no Mk VII parts unless you were at the Siege of Terra' and probably no Mk VI if you aren't sneaky beakies.
>>48236480
Nice Ferrus Manus
>>48236480
I found this cool tutorial for painting metallic red Thousand Sons, I plan on adapting it to my Blood Angels, although i'll probably use a purple glaze or wash as the final step, I think it will bring out the red pigment better.
http://www.mywargame.com/2010/02/14/painting-metallic-pre-heresy-thousand-sons/
>>48237442
Yes it is. But to get the best mixes I'd copy FW's art. I went willy nilly with some mixes and ended up hating them.
The whole concept behind Mk V is mixing parts, and certain armor marks are just older marks with certain changes, like III is just II with plating bolted on, IV is just II with solid plates instead of overlapping rings, VII is just VI with better cable improvements, etc.
>>48237442
Pretty sure you can, that would be Non-Production MkV, though I don't think MkII is compatible with any other system, sort of like how MkVIII is, though I think I've seen a pic that described how a skilled Techmarine could cannibalize and jury-rig MkII to work with other Mks.
>>48237468
II should be compatible with III. 40K has a couple guys using III parts with modern armor from 40K so compatibility might not be an issue.
>>48237316
That's what 63-19 thought.
>>48237492
That world didn't have the Himalayan mountains, Mars, Saturn, Luna, etc.
>>48237528
The DaoT might have had a system sized copy/paste.
>>48237329
>>48237344
I have 1 Leviathan so far. Was thinking about 2 more so I could have a full talon if I wanted.
Typhon is fitting since DG like vindicators and it is just a super vindy.
My idea was 2 typhon (since it can be taken as 2 for 1 for a LoW slot I heard) Fellblade for superheavies. For dreads add 2 more leviathans a derdeo and a maybe 2 more contemptors to make 4 or should I go for 6? Transports I was thininking 6 rhinos 2-3 spartans, is a LR phobos worth it? Deathshroud can take it as a dedicated transport. Then for firepower boxes 2 sicarans and 3 vindicators. Gives me a the ability to be very flexible with list building and play in large games. Might add a titan later if the large games are common.
Any of this sound non fluffy? What would you add or remove? The main list I want to try is a bunch of phosphex and heavy support squads in the reaping. Sounds like fun.
>>48237675
I'm pretty sure Typhon is Unique, anon. After all he is a MotL.
Who else here is trying to decide a legion but waiting till after the new redbook/inferno/open day to see what happens?
>>48237466
So if it was Mk V I could get away with mixed parts?
>>48237468
I just really like the helmets and torso on Mk II but wanted different legs and backpack.
>>48237696
I'm waiting for the rest of DA's fluff (Rangdan Xenocides mostly) and rules.
>>48237704
>I just really like the helmets and torso on Mk II but wanted different legs and backpack.
Anon, I am disappoint.
Was MK7 better or worse than 4?
Im trying to decide if its fluffier to have it on my sergeants/veterans/HQs or my tacticals for my siege of terra themed Bangles army
Primarch Fulgrim:
>http://pastebin.com/4N4Q71A9
Played along to:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEryAoLfnAA
>>48237751
I think MkIII offered the very best protection, but was costly to make, and when Hardened, slowed you down, which led to the invention of Terminator armor.
MkIV was a slimmer and more advanced/streamlined version of MkIII, iirc, but offered less protection in exchange for less weight.
MkVII was improved MkVI, though the helmet and systems in MkVI was better, they had to cut costs in order to meet protection requirements.
Though, I'm going by memory, could be wrong but:
MkIII>MkIV>MVII.
>>48237721
Sorry not sorry.
I think they'd look cool with Mk III or Mk VI legs.
>>48237686
The typhon superheavy not the dude.
>>48237798
MkIII would be fine canonically, and I think maybe MkIV, though the two marks were less compatible then the former, I believe.
>>48237807
>The joke.
>Your head.
>>48237751
7 is slightly better than 4 due to having enhanced and more modern researched sensors in the helmet, and better protection for the chest cabling. 4 was considered the best when 6 was still a prototype and came to be the most prestigious due to its age and also its perception in how the superior armed traitor forces had more of it while the loyalists were forced to wear rags.
Technically II is better than IV in some ways, like the armor plating. But it had a less efficient backpack reactor and bulkier power cables.
>>48237751
Important people would get 7 during siege of terra, unless they are a veteran of a past massacre then they'd probably wear 5 or 4. I'd put tacticals in either 4 or 7 depending on how recent their resupply was.
>>48237863
>7 is slightly better than 4
I don't like this piece of fluff. MkVI and VII are my least favorite armor Mks.
>>48237894
I don't have a problem with it because the fluff has shown that the improvements are negligible when it comes to actual combat efficiency.
It's like two faggots arguing about whose computer is stronger when they have identical parts but one of them has 0.01 MHz higher for the CPU and the other has 0.01 MHz higher for the GPU.
The most seasoned elites in M41 wear older armor and kick plenty of ass and have never suffered for having outdated equipment.
Think this would make a good BA moritat in artificer?
Id probably re-position the right arm a bit and use a press-mold to make another inferno pistol
>>48237923
Why not a Chaplain with a jump pack?
>>48237923
I think FW's Moritat looks cooler.
>>48237932
Ill wait and see how assault marines do int he new redbook
>>48237933
Yeah, but who knows when that is coming out
>>48237942
>Yeah, but who knows when that is coming out
>‘What exactly do you intend, Lord Vulkan? It pains me to say, but we cannot match the psychic might of the orks.’
>‘You just have to contain them long enough for me to kill them,’ growled the primarch. He straightened and looked at the assembled psykers. ‘During the Great Crusade we met many strange creatures and warp-born horrors. We knew little of psychic power and its true source, for the Emperor had chosen ignorance to be our shield against temptation. But we knew enough. That some foes cannot be beaten by bullets and blades, but with the power of the mind. In His wisdom He did not tell us of daemons and gods, of course.’
>Thorild shifted nervously. He knew of what the primarch spoke. The others were similarly uncomfortable, sharing the belief that such matters, such entities were not for casual conversation. Vulkan seemed oblivious to their unease, or uncaring of it, and continued.
>‘But the Emperor had a secret army to combat the threat of the psychic and the daemonic. His Sisters of Silence, we called them. Anti-psykers trained as warrior-maidens. One in trillions, each of them, but across the great vastness of humanity they were number enough. What I would give for a company of the Silent Sisterhood now…’
>‘I do not think the Sisters of Silence have survived, lord primarch,’ said Gandorin.
Oh so that's why he made the Sisters? Also more confirmation that they didn't live past 31K.
So I was looking around on FW's website and noticed the Zone Mortalis stuff.
Those are huge, and they look cool and I want them.
I have no idea what Zone Mortalis is.
>>48237442
Eggstreamly heresycal.
>>48238161
>All the loyalists fromtraitor legions are dead in this pic.
This saddens me.
>>48238055
>Oh so that's why he made the Sisters?
sisters were a creation of goge vandire/sebastian thor
culexus assassins should still be a thing, they were created in the heresy and one of the key figures in this shitshow is the grand master of the assassnis
>>48238214
Sisters of Silence, anon.
>>48238249
oh, well yeah
that's why he sent them after the thousand sons
>>48237442
This topic causes a lot of autism to surface, but generally you can do whatever you want as long as you avoid MKVII bits. You should strive to conform at least a little to the general look and feel of the Heresy, but that doesn't preclude you from having a slight flavor of your own. For example, the Sons of Horus are usually painted in an approximate green color, I don't think I've really seen any two that are painted quite the same way.
Remember: All of this is essentially a retcon, and everyone used to only have all beakies, all the time.
>>48238157
Seriously, what is Zone Mortalis? I've heard of it before, but don't know anything about it/rules for it.
>>48238315
spaceship/cave system/building complex combat
It's an evolution of the close quarters rules from imperial armor 4, that they've slowly expanded on. This is the gist of it. Badab War and the Horus Heresy have a bunch of extra rules in them.
>>48238315
It's basically 40k in a maze, and you can't take flyers or huge tanks. It's if 40k were Space Hulk.
There's charts for the whole table to shake or explode into space, or tunnels to collapse, and I think flamers get a bonus and melee is a lot better. There's also unique stuff like crewman units (void guardsmen) to come to your defense or sending out flamer tunnel scout drones and is a good game mode to use the tarantula turret models.
>>48238330
>>48238354
Huh, interesting. I have to admit, the Realm of Battle boards are pretty cool, and since I don't have a gaming table they'd be pretty interesting to use.
Though I'm not getting any of them anytime soon, I'd like to get some of them and make a bunch of interchangable boards with them, would be cool.
>>48238431
The zone mortalis boards are nice, but too rich for my blood.
better to scratch-build my own
>>48238453
True enough.
Also, what Fortifications can Space Marine legions take other than the Stronghold?
>>48238480
Everything, I suppose. Stronghold Assault contains all the generic fortifications available for armies. I think the only faction specific fortification is the Tau hover fort.
I got an Imperial Bunker with a set of barricades and a quad gun for my legion. Good place to put my heavy support squad with missile launchers.
>>48236480
Death Guard Praetor.
>>48238644
Question. What do people pin legs and such with, and what are you pinning them on top of?
>>48238654
Paper clips and cork you TITS FOR EYES
>>48236480
>>48238644
The helmet doesn't really fit. Maybe a GK terminator one or maybe try a regular Indomitus helmet that you cut into a wedged front shape (how people made plastic GK terminator helmets before the plastic kit)?
>>48238644
>>48238803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c
>>48236480
Getting Scoria and his boys ready for a doubles event coming up soon!
Why don't Dreadnoughts have Legions Astartes? After all, they're still marines in there. Is it a power level issue?
>>48238055
DL link please, i'll be your friend!
>>48239818
Probably yes, and it would be hard to balance fluff vs crunch with most legion rules as is
Some of them would be fine (WE, NL, UM and SoH come to mind) where as IW and DG (who both used a lot of dreads) would be essentially useless, while others would be way to strong, like IH or WS, the latter of which don't even like dreads very much
I agree with your intent though, dreads should get something special from LA the same way 40k dreads get chapter tactics
>>48239818
>IH LA
>13AV getting penned on 5+ by fucking lascannons
>>48239932
>like IH or WS, the latter of which don't even like dreads very much
>IH
>didn't like dreads
Your Frank must be off.
>>48240251
>the latter of which
It must be really painful to be this stupid.
>>48240251
>lat·ter
>adjective
>adjective: latter
>1.
>situated or occurring nearer to the end of something than to the beginning
>>48235822
Whore's Hearse is my favourite
>>48240314
>>48240325
>>48240251
Suicide's still a sin right? My bad.
>>48239932
WE would, while not as terrifying as I, be pretty scary. Double-fist Cortus charging in with rage, gaining hatred from Berserker Assault, rerolling 1s to wound when it already wounds on 2s at AP2. Killable, but damned frightening, especially if you drop in 2 or more
What do you guys think will be the point cost for the Primarchs who haven't been done yet? I can see Papa Sang being 475 points, and the Khan being 415 and 450 of you take him with a bike.
Just posting some other anon's paintscheme and method because it's gorgeous.
Thinking about starting a mechanicum army lads. Forgeworld is a bit expensive and really not sure which units to go with, Money isn't really a problem i just don't want to drop a load straight away so which units are best for starting out?
>>48241297
One Magos and a couple beep boops.
>>48241297
Magos Dominus and Kastelan Robots with Wargame Exclusive head conversion.
>>48241265
Iron warrior?
>>48238773
How do I get cork without drinking wine?
>>48241071
>35 points for bike upgrade
>regular is 45 points
>implying Khan won't have some Master crafted Penis extender worth 60 plus points
>>48238803
Protip for any future models: keep the shields separate and prime them white instead of black.
Your white is thicker than custard and hard to miss on such a prominent part of the model, but everything else looks decent.
>>48241483
Do you regularly ask people to do your thinking for you or does it just happen on 4chan.
>>48239818
>>48239932
>EC Dreadnoughts with I5 on the charge and Crusader
God yes
>>48241564
Do you have cork for me?
>>48241538
It better be like Captain Knievius's genius design.
>>48241573
Did someone say EC dread?
>>48241377
>>48241316
Thanks boys
>>48241714
Glad to be of help.
>>48241414
He said it was meant to be an Iron Warrior offshoot warband yes.
>>48241573
>EC Dreadnoughts with I5 on the charge and Crusader
>>48241546
Thanks for actual constructive criticism instead of links. I did have to layer too much as I didn't original plan white shields
Would it be possible to use my Sanguinary Guard and Sanguinary Priest models in a Blood Angels force?
>>48242117
We don't know what special units ba are getting so the answer is a solid maybe. That being said I'd be very surprised if sang guard don't get rules or you could use then as Sergeants or Artificer Armour. Priests could be apothecaries or Primus Medicae.
>>48242240
Cool, I'm just trying to salvage what I can of my 40k army. Not playing that game until it gets a massive overhaul or re-balancing of some kind.
>>48242331
Rejoice, new errata put out scouts on par with our cousins and gave our dreds a permanent +2 attack (not rough draft).
But that's a conversation for 40k general
>>48242380
>mfw I don't own any Scouts
At least my 3 Furiosos will be happy..
>>48242331
Well good luck, 30k bangels have fairly solid Legion rules and access to good wargear. Also their rites if war are quite nice and fluffy. One representing a deep strike/jump pack assault and another representing a kind of forlorn hope/last stand semi-defensive Rite.
what legion would the emperor send to deal with a species of unintelligent and violent abhumans who attack the adeptus arbites?
>>48242380
What change happend to the Scouts?
>>48242562
Got bumped up to WS/BS4
>>48240371
A painful lesson learn in thread.
>>48242615
I think I'm going to take a break from /tg/ and the Internet for a good portion of the rest of the day.
>>48242604
Very noice
There is something I never understood.
I noticed different colour schemes for Emperor's Children.
They are always purple, but the shoulder are either:
>Purple with Gold Trim
>Purple with Black Trim
>White with Gold Trim
>White with Black Trim
What's the difference?
>>48242557
Send the eighth!
Thinking of doing bits of pink with leopard spots and zebra stripes on my kakophoni
y/n?
>>48242557
Show them true strength, the Eaters of Worlds.
>>48242826
Absolutely yes!
But I may be a little bias.
>>48242826
If you're anything other than gold daemon levels of painting good then it will look like shit
>>48242690
'White' is supposed to be platinum, I believe. Indicates that they were in the palatine blades. Might apply generally to skilled swordsmen.
>>48242117
With present BA rules, not really, since those special units don't exist
But chaplains are a consul potion, who can take a jump pack, and command squads can all take jump packs, power weapons and carry a banner as well
So, theirs that option
>>48242791
I think that's a pretty poor target for the Night Lords, honestly. Their kind of terror attacks probably wouldn't work on uncivilized, ferocious abhumans. Or maybe it would work even better because they're more primitive enemies and cavemen believed thunder storms were angry gods
>>48242690
Black trim is almost exclusively post-heresy AFAIK, and having white areas is mostly artistic license (to denote rank, to emulate platinum, just to be fancy etc.)
>>48243262
>>48242993
I always assumed the White w/Black Trim represent the III Company, since Kakophoni have it on the FW site.
>>48242863
Very nice - not sure about the guitars (though they are at least definitely chaos guitars) but the detailed patterns look really nice
>>48243548
"Five hundred warriors in the shimmering purple of the Emperor’s Children emerged from the smoke, and their appearance drew a gasp of shock from the assembled Iron Warriors. Slashes of vivid pigment were spattered over their armour, the myriad contrasting hues and clashing colours offending the eye with their garish disregard for the Legion’s heraldry. [...] Like the mortals before them, these warriors parted to form an honour guard, and behind them came a screaming, wailing mass of legionaries whose weapons were unlike anything Forrix had ever seen in a battle- barge’s armoury. Like oversized axes, they were fitted with all manner of amplification devices, tonal distorters and artefacts whose function Forrix could not even begin to guess.
Thrumming bass notes of raw kinetic force throbbed in their long necks, and he wondered if such weapons might be employed in the reduction of a fortress wall."
- Angel Exterminatus
Kakophoni with Bass Guitars and color patterns are totally canon.
So a few of us are getting into 30k proper, we've been playing 40k with the models for a long time and never tried 30k.
So whats decent in a legions list? Whats hot and whats not? Imagine I'm starting with BaC and thats what I have, what i have is basically the same as the boxes contents plus more.
Are blackshields any good? Theyre definately interesting.
>>48244247
>So whats decent in a legions list? Whats hot and whats not?
dont netlist in 30k
>>48244247
you should check out the 1d4chan legion army tactics page. At the very least it will give you an idea of what does what
>>48244073
>drew a gasp of shock from the assembled Iron Warriors
I would have thought the EC would have to be half way down the IW'sbolterbefore they got a show of emotion out of them.
>>48244073
>he wondered if such weapons might be employed in the reduction of a fortress wall
Of course, the Iron Warrior sees a weird thing and immediately wonders if he can siege with it.
why are the iron warriors so popular among the reddit demographic?
i dont understand why people like them, their whole 'thing' is just being mediocre autists that are unliked by all of their peers.
>>48244491
>soulless cucked followers the legion
you tell me anon
>>48244374
>We are facing an enemy known as the "Hrud".
>They appear to cause degradation and decay in everything around them. Guns rust up, and concrete starts to crumbl-
>WAIT A MINUTE. I'VE GOT A GREAT IDEA.
>>48244266
Not looking to netlistt pal, looking to see what the shitty units are and whats not shitty. Not the same as copypasting a list. Once I know whats decent I can do my own thing from there.
>>48244293
Cheers bro
>>48244491
Disgusting.
Besides, I thought that Thousand Sons would be the Reddit Legion? Unliked Nerds who spend their time with SJWs and thinking that they're above everyone?
But seriously, if we go by the Allies chart, even the IW has more friends than the TSons. I know Morty hated them, and I know they hated the Space Corgis, but I can't remember why everyone else either hates or distrusts them?
>>48244374
>>48244563
My sides.
>>48244650
The psyker thing and the rumors of them being wizards. The Old Night left some distrust towards psykers.
>>48244684
True enough. At least Magnus was friends with Perturabo, and I think the Khan?
>>48244247
While I would recommend this >>48244266
I will still say that 30k really mandates covering all your bases simply because it is extremely easy for 30k armies to specialize with cheap squadroned vehicles, tough as nails tanks and transports, marine blobs, terminator death stars, and up to 7 flyers per list, etc. In other words if you don't bring anti-tank you will get fucked in the butt if someone brings two spartans each carrying a death star, if you don't bring anti-MEQ you will have a very hard time wiping out anyone who decides to bring three tac blobs with medics.
Beyond that just make a list you like. I like assault marines so I field only assault marines, command squads with jump packs, palatines with jump packs, and flyers or skimmers. It isn't a good list mostly because assault marines are overcosted as fuck but it lets me use like 6 different legiones astartes rules without even changing my list.
>>48244650
>, but I can't remember why everyone else either hates or distrusts them?
Would YOU trust a hunchback marine with 3 arms, malformed eyes and living tumors that shoots lighting bolts out his ass? I wouldnt.
>>48244735
Yes. There's something unnerving about a 15ft red cyclops with nipple horns shooting lightning and fire from his fingers, crushing the bones of a man with a thought, and screaming into your brain with his mind. However it's not as unnerving if a 15ft tall Proto-Sumerian with solid gold armor does it most likely because he doesn't have nipple horns.
>>48244593
wait until we get the new redbook. its up for preorder right now and will rewrite the entire army list
>>48244735
I think he had a friendship with Lorgar although it may have just been a one sided friendship with Lorgar imagining that Magnus didn't look down on him like everyone else.
>>48244374
>Iron Warriors too dumb to realize that the Eldar already utilize sonic lances and the Mechanicum has sonic weapons in the form of some ordinatus
>>48244944
I don't think Forrix has seen Eldar weapons before, or has seen man portable sonic guns made by humans before. That and they're Warp powered so there's that.
So how does assault transport work with the storm eagle? Can you drop guys from zooming, then have them charge? Do they need to take terrain tests as well?
>>48245279
It can hover, can't it?
>>48245295
it can, but if they disembark while zooming, can they still charge? I'm wondering if I can zoom in, drop off, and charge.
>>48245279
>>48245469
They can't disembark when zooming whatsoever, that requires a special rule which 40k Stormravens and Valkyries have, but the 30k Storm Eagle doesn't
>Thought I had decided on Bangels
>Suddenly really like the SoH color scheme
HELP
>>48245848
Shattered Legions.
>>48245848
Run an allied force, they are super bros.
>>48245848
do you want your primarch to get beaten to death like a bitch, or do you want your primarch to beat a bitch to death?
What's a good loadout for Breacher Siege Squads in an Ironfire list?
>>48246026
Out of interest Bangelhateranon, which legion do you play? I'm trying to work out why you're so goddamn butthurt about the best angels.
>>48246322
sons of horus.
>I'm trying to work out why you're so goddamn butthurt about the best angels.
because dumbass redditors blow smoke up their ass constantly
>>48246353
Not everyone with an opinion that goes against yours is from reddit, anon. And most people are huge fans of their own legions and primarchs, BA players are hardly alone in that.
>>48246447
no legion is more overrated than the BA.
>muh best primarch
>muh best legion
>muh whole will be in mk7 because i already own the models
>muh angels
BAfags are more annoying than yiff fags, because nobody calls them out for their constant dickriding.
The "angel" chapters are for faggots, goths and little girls who love Twilight. Every stupid piece of shit who brings an "angel" army to a gathering of real adults who are just trying to play a game needs his face smashed in with a fucking sledgehammer. Go home, Angelfags. This is 40k, not Twilight.
>>48246482
5th edition ruined the Blood Angels. They started to suffer from the Space Wolf syndrome.
>>48246485
truth. i think the problem lies with the legions/chapters that have separate codexes in 40k. its created special snowflake syndrome
DA, BA, and SW fags are by far the most obnoxious and obsessive of the marine fans. ECfags are pretty obnoxious too, but thats to be expected.
>>48246485
What's the problem with Dark Angels? You know besides that one faggot who thought they should get six or seven rites of war?
>>48246485
*30k*
>>48246596
>What's the problem with Dark Angels?
>You know besides that one faggot who thought they should get six or seven rites of war?
that. you will see a lot more of it once they get full rules and models.
>muh lion the best strategist, best primarch
>1st is best
>gimme more rites of war
>'im going to use my whole mk7 ravenwing army'
>the inevitable complaining when they arent the undisputed most OP legion
itll get bad. DA/BA/SW are going to be even more obnoxious once they get rules
>>48246596
It was at least two of us as there was another anon beside me, and I'm not sure about him, but I was joking. Though, to be honest, I expect all the legions to have more rites by the time FW ends the series.
>>48245848
por que no los dos
>>48246482
I think nearly everyone thinks the legion they play is the best, and the primarch they like is the best
>>48246219
>tfw everyone's arguing about Bangles and stuff, and I just want to know how to equip Breachers.
I think I'll give the Sergeant a Breaching charge and keep them all with bolters. Lascitters seem pretty bad, and I just don't like how the graviton gun looks.
>>48246721
BA and SW I've noticed being obnoxious but DA I haven't really noticed.
>>48245848
That marine needs a crushed can in his hand with the content spilling on the tank.
>>48246485
>muh grimdark
>>48246759
and yet the fanbase that blows the most smoke up its own ass is the BA. and im typically the only one calling them out for it.
yiff fags are obnoxious, nobody can debate that, but how many times to do see yiff fags post shit like
>russ the best primarch
>best legion, saved terra
>my whole army is in mk7
>russ killed a million bloodthristers
the only group that is constantly babied and allowed to post dicking garbage, is the BA. at least the yiffs and EC are called out for it.
>>48246787
Dont fall for the lascutters. They're absolutely awful. Pray for buff.
If you have to give spec weps give melta guns. You had a good idea with the breaching charge sarge.
>>48246832
If you're the only one calling them out for it maybe it's not that big of a problem
>>48246791
>but DA I haven't really noticed.
thats because most of them are still playing 40k, since they are currently extremely strong in 40k. once they get full 30k rules, units, etc, expect them to be just as bad. they are just as bad in 40k.
>>48246832
And the root cause of all that?
"Best primarch" threads.
You see someone starting one or even asking people about their favorite primarch, you hunt that faggot down and put a bullet in their head. Easily one of the worst things in the 30k community.
Remember: Track, Travel, Terminate
You'll be making the 30k community a better place.
>>48246721
>>muh lion the best strategist, best primarch
Not true, I like his character and demeanour, but he has some severe downsides. Also in Angels of Caliban his autism is taken away, which I find disgusting.
>>1st is best
That is true.
>>gimme more rites of war
Why not.
>>'im going to use my whole mk7 ravenwing army'
Just no. If the Ravenwing has the same iconography in 30k I might get the bikes, but mk.7 will be converted into mk.5.
>>48246832
>IF
>IW
>>48246832
>and im typically the only one calling them out for it.
Oh for crying out loud. You're not performing some noble service, you're being an obnoxious little shit. What does it really matter if some people are overexcited about their favourite legion?
>>48246721
>>48246791
Yeah I've never met a DA fanboy who was a COMPLETE faggot, unlike the other two. Some of them are actually quite nice and tend to be better hobbyists.
>>48246882
no. it is. im the only one calling them out because im one of the only people in this general who doesnt give a shit about what you guys think of me.
BAfags make up a decent percent of the thread, and so the typical 'lets all be friends' idiots encourage their bullshit because they just want upboats.
BAfags are obnoxious as shit right now.. imagine how bad they will get once they get full rules. you have to nip this shit in the bud.
>>48246959
>anonimity
>not caring what people think of you
How do you find the courage
>>48246896
Fair enough I suppose. Either way people should nip this faggotry in the bud.I particularly hate Mk VII Blood Angels because it seems like an excuse for WAAC faggots to play 30k.
>Hey can I use Mk VII armour, will it work with the most broken legion?
>>48246857
Alright, glad that the Breaching charges are a good idea. I'm kinda unhappy that the special weapons the Breachers come with aren't ones I'll use though. Probably won't get the meltaguns though, don't like not using stuff.
>>48246919
>you're being an obnoxious little shit.
no. YOU are being an obnoxious little shit.
>What does it really matter if some people are overexcited about their favourite legion?
because they are being obnoxious little shits.
>>48246912
>IF
>IW
yeah they are retards but at least when they do it its just trolling and is bantz.
>>48246959
I do hope the assault cannon shit gets toned down. It's stupid and it looks awful on models.
>>48246959
You think discussion of BA needs to be "nipped in the bud"? The legion you dislike can't be discussed here? YOU are the problem here buddy, not BAfags.
>>48246977
What legion do you play?
>>48246912
>Why not.
Because nobody else gets them. Honestly the whole idea of all wings being special rites is retarded.
>Ravenwing
Something like the current jetbike rites but include bikes and let anyone take it would have been fine
>Deathwing
Pride of the legion
>Ironwing
Armoured Breakthrough or Spearhead would have worked fine
>>48247024
no, BAfag. YOU are the problem here.
how many times do you people posting meaningless garbage about how perfect and great their legion and primarch is? besides the EC fags, which we've been giving shit for doing those very same things.
you can talk about your legion without being obnoxious dickriders, or maybe you cant. BAfags cant seem to separate the 2.
I haven't ever seen these obnoxious SWfags that everyone always complaining aboutoutside of the 40k general.
Am I really alone in thinking that people who constantly go YIFF YIFF YIFF YIFF YIFF are infinitely worse?
Is there any over-the-counter drugs for autism? I just can't deal with my troopers having tons of variation in their equipment. Different backpacks, helmets, legs, etc. I just can't deal with the idea of having a unit with wild assortment of studded armour or no studs at all, helmets with different amounts of tubes and grills going in different directions, as well as backpacks having different vent patterns on them. You would think that when a unit gets issued a set of armour or guns, they'd most likely come from the same factory from the same batch produced. So there shouldn't be that much variation in the suits. Of course in time they'd get replacements, but those should be individual kits here and there, not the whole unit looking like they put on their armour in the dark without knowing whose pieces were whose.
It's so irritating assorting all the bits, then trying to find extras online to get at least a majority consistent unit.
>>48247031
Emperor's Children
>>48247074
Go into a GW and talk to any middle aged man.
Those are the obnoxious SW fags.
>>48247074
>I haven't ever seen these obnoxious SWfags that everyone always complaining about outside of the 40k general.
theyll be here in 2 months. i guarantee it.
>>48247072
Pretty much the only time I see people arguing about BA and their greatness is when someone like you does something like this.
A while back some Bangel said Sanguinius was good and someone said no.
>>48247156
you must not be in these threads often then.
>>48247156
Not him but my bigger problem is someone coming in asking about using Mk VII with BA, and then showing off an army list that's spamming assault cannons and perdition blades and shit.
>>48247170
Consider that the threads that you are in contain BArguements because you start them.
>>48247120
I'm autistic enough to hold you to that.
So, what's everyone think of Warhammer TV's HH painting vidoes so far? Ultramarines, Sons of Horus, Word Bearers, World Eaters, and Death Guard.
Can't stand the Death Guard video, the preview pic on it looks too dirty/not a white/off white color to me, and Emma annoys me.
>>48247208
Why the fuck are you a namefag? What the fuck does unification mean, should I know you? Honestly I would take a hundred wolffags or BAfags over the ten namefags we normally have.
>>48247208
>Consider that the threads that you are in contain BArguements because you start them.
sure. i start the 'argument', because when i see a dozen faggots circlejerking over 'muh perfect angel legion' i call them out for it. how often do you see me, and other SoHfags, for example, spamming our 'muh best warmaster' 'luna wolves a best'. shit? never, because that shit is obnoxious. the only legion thats been getting a free pass on sucking itself off, is the BAfags. its probably because people feel bad for them sucking in 40k, and dont have th heart to tell them to tone it down.
>I'm autistic enough to hold you to that.
it might not be 2 months, itll be whenever the next book comes out with their rules. itll be bad, especially if they have really strong rules.
>>48247273
Would actually love to collect some Sons of Horus. I like their colour scheme and play style. Im too dedicated to my own legion though. Too much money.
>>48247297
>horus is constantly espoused as best primarch
>all the time
>muh warmasters own
Your own camp is not without fault
>>48246353
>because dumbass redditors blow smoke up their ass constantly
That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard over disliking a Warhammer thing
>>48247323
Aye. I love the SoH color scheme as well, though I don't know much about them other than having Loken, Abaddon, and Horus. I hate the topknots though, except on the upgrade set heads. Those look pretty nice actually.
>>48247348
>muh angel defended terra all by himself
>he could kill any primarch
>my army is in mk7
>everybody said he was the best fighter
>even girlyman said he was the best
>perfect legion
>natural beauty
etc, etc, etc.
no other legion gets away with constantly blowing smoke up its own ass.
>>48246832
>and im typically the only one calling them out for it
Speaking of obnoxious...
>>48247337
As an EC player, Horus really was the best, its why he was made warmaster.
>Most worlds brought into compliance
>Best (possibly second best) fighter among the primarchs
>Legion didn't degenerate over the course of the heresy like the Night Lords, World Eaters, or Emperor's Children
>Friends with pretty much everyone except Corax
Sure all primarchs have their own pros and cons and Horus certainly has cons too but he was the best overall primarch.
>>48247409
Your homework is to screenshot and document how many times BAngels circle jerk on this thread. Defending themselves against you doesn't count. Then come to us and show us this problem that only you seem to see.
>>48247471
I thought Alpharius & Omegon weren't too fond of him, but then I'm not sure there were any primarchsapart from each otherthose two were fond of.
>>48247471
I'm not contesting that Horus was best overall. But Sons of Horus players aren't innocent of circle jerking over his power. Then BAngels like to say Sanguinius is powerful because Horus himself said Sanguinius should have had his position.
Curze is now made the Warmaster instead of Horus. What happens?
>>48246759
Not really. I know the World Eaters are little more than a blunt instrument, and Angron should've never been anywhere near command while he was all nailed up. They don't shoot the best, they don't move the best, hell, they don't even melee the best. They're just pissed off all the time. But I see a little of myself in Angron's ineptness, caused by things beyond our control in our heads, and the sheer catharsis of brutal violence. Maybe it makes me an edgelord, but whatever. At least I'm not Curzefag.
>>48247471
>Most worlds brought into compliance
Isn't that Guilliman? Horus won the most victories but Guilliman was a compliance specialist.
>>48247479
i dont have to prove anything to you, redditor.
anybody who actually posts in these threads knows that BAfags post
>muh perfect angel
>muh best legion
shit here constantly. like ive already said. weak cucks like you enable them because you just want upboats and dont want to rock the boat.
like
>>48246911
said. its 'best primarch' wankery. and you idiots enable them
>>48241483
Maybe it's a sign you should start drinking wine
>>48247519
I think it's valid to assume that in your own mind you think the World Eaters are best. That's why you like them. Not best in the literal sense. I don't think there is a "best," legion. If there was an objectively best legion it would have an overwhelming majority of players.
That's why autistically "calling out" BAfags for saying Sanguinius and the IX are the best is completely asinine.
Ignoring the fact that there's no real way to objectively measure who's the best even if they yap about their superiority the best way to get annoying people to stop being annoying in the context of a message board (especially an anonimoose message board) is to just ignore them.
>>48238161
>that Iron Hand
there is no face behind that faceplate
>>48247536
>redditor
>cucks
>upboats
This is how you spot someone desperate to fit in.
What do you guys expect to see in the new HH plastic box set? Personally I think it'll be SW recon marines vs 1ksons termies/assault marines.
>>48242117
Sure. Go for it
>>48242557
Looks like he has a shit stain on his lips or a dirty mexistache
>>48247594
I heard rumours that it was Battle of Phall w/IF and IW MkIII Breachers and Assaults.
I'm starting to like the idea of adding a couple of land speeders to my NL list. Some suicide deep striking anti-tank in FA slot would be nice for a terror assault force.
>>48247594
I think it'll include one of the overpriced units (assault marines/breachers/recon marines) to coincide to with the red book.
If I were a more cynical man I would say that FW was only going to fix one of the units I listed and then release that unit in the new box set.
>>48247642
I use Javs with my BAngels. Multi-meltas and lascannons out-flanking are a really nice tool to have. Even if your enemy brings ceramite you can get side and rear armour.
>>48247585
>I think it's valid to assume that in your own mind you think the World Eaters are best. That's why you like them. Not best in the literal sense.
I suppose that's fair. They're certainly my favorite, and I guess that can qualify as a kind of best.
>>48247594
>This is how you spot someone desperate to fit in.
no. this is how you spot someone desperate to fit in.
>Stop bullying the BAfags! We are good quality posters who always bring insight with our questions about running the whole army in mk7. If you say anything bad about muh angel, i will take it personally and call you out for being a hater. I am incapable of handling banter and I expect you to post 148 screen shots of me asking retarded questions about mk7 and overrating muh angel.
>>48247662
>to coincide to with the red book.
Red book is next week, B@C replacement is more likely to be released around september like B@C which might coincide with Inferno's release just like B@C coincided with the release of the Calth book.
>>48247508
Book 3 says Horus was the only primarch Alpharius really got along with before the Heresy. Once the war started, their relationship wasn’t so great, with Alpharius angering Horus at Paramar. By then, their goals weren’t necessarily aligned.
>>48247509
It’ll be interesting to see what FW write about Sanguinius. What’s he interested in? Right now it’s hard to picture him getting excited about grand strategy and logistics, stuff that Horus, Guilliman, Dorn, and Alpharius seemed to be good at. More of a fighter and leader of men, but in a small enough group that he can have some contact with all of them. And philosophical. Kind of like the Khan, except less disconnected from the big picture.
These legion and Primarch arguments never go anywhere. They all lost the Heresy in their own ways.
>General loses of both camps
>Suffered major causalities and lost nearly all 30k goodies
>Loyalists loses only
>I: Dark Angels
>Depending on how you view it went from green to black
I am okay though with that.
>Caliban was destroyed
>Lion's in a comma
>The whole Fallen debacle and the "Lion was a traitor meme"
>V: White Scars
>The Khan was lost in the Webway and probably has to rape his way through hordes of bored DEldar women
>They lost 10 bikes for every marine that died
>VI: Space Wolves
Do I have to begin with this? Lord knows what decent SWfags go through knowing that the Overwolf is in control.
>VII: Imperial Fists
>The Iron Cage
>What they did to Siggy's boys
>Still have to be painted yellow
>People think that walls are the only thing to you
>What the Beast series did to you
>IV: Blood Angels
>Dead dad
>Black Rage and Red Thirst
>had no voice when Rowboat broke the Legions
>lost the megadakka
>Is red
Seriously. How many red marines exist in this setting? I like red and but there's too many red marines.
>X: Iron Hands
>Storm Walkers was a better name
>You were largely forgettable for quite some time
>Replacing too much flesh with metal
>You got Dropsite Massacred
>dead dad and the head jokes
It's almost as bad as the traitor meme for DAs.
>XIII: Ultramarines
>People hate you for 5E Wardian fluff
>Rowboat didn't have a space mongoose or enough Legatine Axes to stop Fulgrim
>Calth's sun got ruined
>XVIII: Salamanders
>Kyme has a monopoly on writing novels about you
That's got to be the worst. And no matter how much you burn, or how much time you put into being a blacksmith it will never go away.
>XIX: Raven Guard
>Alpha Legion ruined your dad's dream of rebuilding your legion
>geneseed took a nose dive in quality
>There's barely any of you left
>Spends time with birds and listening to Linkin' Loyalists to ease the pain
Continued in the next post.
>>48247594
I want plastic breachers (i.e. Phall) but given the estimated dates I think something tying in to Prospero is more likely. If so, I'd have thought SW would be more likely to get chainsword-wielding dudes in the way to "officially" build the box. Not sure what the TS would get, a praetor that can be used as a librarian by other legions perhaps. If they do stop making B@C they may still throw in some Mk IV tactical dudes.
>>48247679
I like the look of the basic land speeder. I imagine the night lords would assing shitters to land speeder duty as a punishment.
>>48247772
Honestly I'd love to get Phall, plastic Breachers would be amazing.
>>48247696
>People talk about the legion I dont like and it makes me mad
>trust me guys I'm doing us a favour starting these pants on head shittingly retarded arguments
>What? No I don't have any proof that this is a common occurence, what am I? A cuck?
>cuck cuck cuck
>le reddit
>>48247793
I think regular land speeders are actually better for what you pay. Give em some graviton guns and watch them melt through spartans
>>48247856
you can talk about your legion without being a faggot about it.
or maybe you cant.
Apparently Emma does the Ultramarines video as well. Now she's ruined two legions.
>>48247935
>Now she's ruined two legions.
And the boners of men worldwide.
