Now, hear me out, but why is it that people say that X-Wing is comparable to games like 40k, infinity or Warmachine? X-Wing is nothing like any of those games, and is more like heroclix than a true wargame. Theres no core rulebook, no movement aside from templates, lacking in the hobbying aspect, and other huge differences. All im saying is, is that X-Wing is more like a Boardgame than a truetable top game
>>48188111
>Theres no core rulebook
Yes there is. It's just not very big.
>no movement aside from templates
It only counts as movement if you use a tape measure?
>lacking in the hobbying aspect
Painting isn't required, but plenty of people still do it. Pic related.
>>48188111
It's comparable in the same way GURPS, WoD and D&D are comparable, or YGO MTG and Hearthstone, to an outsider they are essentially identical, to an inside they have nothing in common.
>>48188111
It's a wargame because it has listbuilding, multiple unique factions, and is about war.
OP is right. X wing is using cards, so it's obviously a TCG. Don't touch my precious Game Workshop, they are the only one wargame makers. I know what I'm saying, I'm into GW since Age of Sigmar.
Need to classify over just enjoying the game : The thread
>>48188111
I'd call it a dogfighting game centered around skirmishes. Sure it's technically warfare but its focus is limited.
>>48188735
OP specifically mentioned warmachine and infinity as well.
>>48188783
>Sure it's technically warfare but its focus is limited.
Are you talking about X-Wing or Infinity?
>>48188111
>Theres no core rulebook
There is.
>no movement aside from templates
Plenty of wargames use other movement schemes. Do you even Battletech?
>lacking in the hobbying aspect
Converting and building is 100% its weakest point, if you are into that. Other than that, the models just don't look like ass straight out of the box. You can still paint them.
>other huge differences
Such as?
>more like a Boardgame than a truetable top game
Next you'll tell us that Battletech is not a true tabletop game.
Also
>boardgames
>not true tabletop games
>>48188416
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>>48188111
>a truetable top game
>which can only be defined through the very narrow locus which I have chosen arbitrarily
Cry more, 40kfag. FFG have managed to make a sounder wargame, which is easier to learn, cheaper to get into, more fun to play and ten times more balanced. And they only took three years to do it.
>>48188111
so why is everybody selling (or trying to since nobody wants them) there 40 k army /whfb army to play x wing ?
can I see you collection on fully painted minis please ? surely if hobby is that important you don't have 5-8years old mini still unpainted lying around DO YOU ?
I like X Wing, hate anything GW has done in the last 5 years, and agree with the OP.
X wing is a great intro wargame, but isn't in the same category.
In terms of "true mini wargames" I prefer Infinity.
>>48193409
Infinity is pretty great, though it takes some work to chew through the rules. They provide wikis and list-building tools gratis, though. X-Wing does the same.
>>48188111
>X-Wing is more like a Boardgame than a truetable top game
So is CBT. CBT was the king of wargaming before GW dethroned them.
Why are there people on this board who haven't researched their hobby?
>>48194368
Because they are literally 16 years old and this is the first exposure to gaming they've ever had.
OP was simply saying that X-Wing is not in the same category as games like Warmachine and Infinity, and so it's pretty retarded to be like "X-Wing is the king, literally why does anyone play anything else anymore". They have different appeals, something that seems pretty obvious to me.
>>48193409
>X wing is a great intro wargame
For more of the X-Wing players at my LGS 40k was their intro wargame.
>>48188463
To an insider, GURPS and D&D are nearly identical, except one has a lot of useless, cumbersome rules, and the other is the most name-recognized RPG in the world.
And an outsider can easily tell a vampire larp WoD over the fatties playing GURPS/DnD.
>>48196413
>GURPS is cumbersome
>When the rules are explicitly optional and you can go anywhere from GURPS-Ultra Lite to stacking on features for PF tier bloat
Shitty troll, try again next time
>>48196519
>shitty troll
Yeah.
>WoD players ever being half-normal people
It's better to just attempt wit or constructive deception rather than just coming off as a bar liar.
