New sets been out about 2 weeks, what are you playing and why is it not Machina?
>the new fairy support
>the new robot support
>Too inconsistent to hit the RR for Flame King Shout
I'm scared.
>>48138740
But it IS Machina! Kind of unfinished right now but here's what I got so far
Machina, The Mechanical Emperor (Because I think he's way more useful all game than Machina 2.0)
4x March of the Machine Lord
2x Remote Control Golem
4x Clockwork Soldiers
4x Small Assistant, Mariabella
3x Dummy Doll (Dwimmy Doll? God I can't read this font)
2x Remote Control Beast
4x Marybell, Insane Self Aware Machine
4x Engineer of Legnius
3x Clockwork Scout Plane
4x Legnius, the Mechanical City
1x Marybell, the Steel Doll (I am honestly unsure how many of this one to be in the final decklist)
4x Maribella's Work
1x Magic Screw
10x Water Magic Stone (Because honestly the deck doesn't need more cycle, between Machina's Search, Mariabella and Mariabella's Work, the deck is consistent enough and Basic Stones Only helps it out significantly against Non-basic hate)
I'm thinking of replacing the Screw with another Regalia Marybell (I just need to get one), and debating turning the Remote Control Golems into more Remote Control Beasts. Other than that, I think the deck is how I like it.
>>48139301
Locals I went 4-0 playing http://fow.cardgamerobot.com/deck/639
Green is just better, mana dorks allow tutoring ever single turn, and you just mulligan everything but mana dorks and marches
>>48139189
Flame trap+fks main board is your answer
>>48138740
I play Kaguya with fast flip, turn 2 noble to slow down his dorks, turn 3 flip and ready to cancel his flip, Wall of Wind or Seal of Wind and Light at the ready to stop March shenanigans or final forfeit on noble. Interdimensional Escape to keep the board under control, wipe his 1 cost guys and slow his draw from Mariabella's work down.
I sideboard unseen pressure for if I suspect he is sideboarding artificial moon.
Still a tough matchup.
I want to fuck Piruruk.
>>48140628
I don't understand the Rewriting Laws. It just seems like it's there to thin the deck but not by anything. I'd replace it with Blessing of Yggdrasil for more ramp, if anything.
>>48146490
usually ive been running 2x robox, and 2x tick tock since they combo well with flipped machina, rewriting just something ive been testing
>>48146490
I'd imagine Rewrite is usually there to do just that: thin the deck. At 2 cost and refreshing 2 stones with a draw, unless your opponent decides to cancel the spell it's a free deck thinner in the event where you want to get to the power cards faster and don't want to risk having a non-optimal draw.
I've thought about using it in a few decks that don't have much tutoring/draw options that run on a pretty low card count core.
>>48147260
I'm going to sound dumb, what's robox?
I've tried searching for that card on every major site and I can't find anything with it.
>>48148517
ro-box
>>48148517
Playing a slow deck in this game takes so much fucking effort.
I'm now rebuilding my Knights of the Round table deck, but I'm going to need some of the magic stones from the Valkyria Chronicles set at the end of the month.
>>48149573
They did say in the new set the game is probably gonna slow down 2-3 turns though in the most recent stream.
>>48149573
>tfw got BTFO'd by a turn 3 Huang Long
Guys, what cards can produce Moon mana?
>>48149795
Well you got stones like Moonbreeze's Memoria, Black Moon's Memoria, Magic Stone of Moon Shade/Light.
Moonbreeze Fairy is the moon dork
The Apollo Regalia can if you're using it for an awakening ability, and the Demonic Globe can if you're using it for an activated ability.
>>48150185
Thank you for the response. I'm kind of new to this game, and I got kind of confused when I saw the "Moon" symbol on a card for one of it's "Awakening" abilities.
>>48149573
It's called Yggdrasil. It makes everything go nice and slow. Yggdor has only increased that slowdown.
>>48150403
He's still easy to deal with, much like Alice that comes in when it's almost dead.
>>48149605
They're just doing like a side licensed set?
>>48150668
The second Vingolf set is featuring VC1-3. It's an entire dedicated set featuring the series, including the one that the West never got.
>>48150832
Then we have this.
But at least this and Dual Stones are coming back with Vingolf 2.
>>48150849
And then we get this beast.
>>48150931
Just thinking about it, we haven't seen Selvaria's card yet, right?
>>48150923
>scaled up decade old 3d shit
>>48151078
You weren't expecting them to actually put effort into Vingolf, were you?
I know they like to grab random artists to fill in their card ranks, but sometimes they need to take a second look at some of them.
>>48151138
To be fair, Sega only gave them upscalde decade old 3D shit ripped right from the game.
>>48151138
They should made Vingolf 3 : Dorky Faces edition, and make this guy the art director.
>>48151276
Would've been nice to get some of the Raita art work, but I basically knew it wasn't going to happen when they announced the set.
>>48151414
They probably paid sega license, not raita.
>>48151438
Isn't his art from the project technically Sega Art? It wouldn't be paying him, since he doesn't technically own the art to it.
>>48150403
>Yggdrasil
What is even a viable deck list with that Ruler? Beasts?
>>48152479
RR is better for beasts.
Beasts go fast and hard
Yggdrasil is more for the long game I believe.
>>48152497
Thinking about doing beasts with the quickcast Rat/Squirrel thing and since this is a thing, I was just trying to think of what I can do with it.
>>48152541
Reflect/Refrain G/R beasts is my main deck.
While the 1400/1400 body on Yggdor is impressive, R/R provides just so much fucking utility. I cannot tell you how many times that filter ability drew me exactly what I needed like a sprint of the beast queen or pump spell. Uncovering a target resonator at the end can also be extremely relevant allowing for a "free" attack and the pump works at instant speed as well.
>>48152650
I really just don't want to run the same things as others do in my local shop. It's why my Knights of the Round Table deck really just consists of the Knights themselves. Not perfect, but does pretty damn well considering.
>>48152650
By Sprint I meant Pricia's Call to Action.
>>48152674
You shouldn't be afraid or ashamed to use a good ruler even if other people are using it.
A universal ruler like R/R does not change the deck at all.
>>48152830
I'm not either of those? I just want to build a fun deck, and I've done that with my Knights and wonky Machina one.
Dead thread
Deader game
>>48152479
Pre-rotation I ran a heavy ramp-and-counterspell Yggs deck that would get lots of mana and drop all my Excal-X then alice hits board, usually followed by one or two more.
>>48154516
What did you include in that deck to bide time that long?
>>48154516
4x Keen Sense
4x Wind-Swept Refuge
4x Wind Wall
4x Blessing of Yggdrasil
4x Branch of Yggdrasil
4x Child of the Forest
4x Alice
4x Spirit of Yggdrasil
4x Elvish Mystic
4x Gretel
4x Excal-X
Ramp fast enough that I had a ton of mana out really fast to get my Excals out when I want them, Counterspells to protect myself until I was ready to bring on the Alices.
>>48154668
Wait I got my numbers off. 3 sense, 3 Gretel, 2 Branch. Been a while since I used the deck and didn't doublecheck my numbers.
>>48150832
I just wish they tried.
>>48154894
Vingolf 1 was a sign of how these sets are treated. Then again, the normal sets have quite a few errors and other odd things.
>>48152830
I won't run R/R just on principle. That ruler has been ass cancer for the game.
>>48155948
The sad thing is that it's primarily an American thing with how rampant that ruler is being used. It's not an issue for the most part overseas nor is it seen being used nearly as much as we seem to.
I knew it was coming but I'm still a bit sad.
Thoughts on Apostle Zoo
Blazer Gill Rabus
4x Black Moon's Memoria
3x Sorrowful Necromancy's Memoria
3x Darkness Magic Stone
4x Guinevere Jealous Queen
4x Messenger Familiar
4x Rukh Egg
4x Lancelot The Knight of Mad Demon
4x Interdimensional Monarch, Gill Lapis
4x Izanami The Sealed Terror
3x Adombrali, the Unfathomable
1x Valentina Puppet Monarch
1x Behemoth The Earth Eater
1x Leviathan The First of the Sea
1x Attoractia, Dimension of the Seven Lands
2x Keeper of the Past, Urthr
1x Ywain Knight of Lions
3x Flame King's Shout
3x Soulhunt
>>48156880
>1x Ywain Knight of Lions
Hello Demonflame, my old friend.
>>48157188
It's there for fks if they are playing faeries or machines since that comboss wipes board
>>48156457
taking bets now on if anything in black vingolf will be even remotely playable.
>>48156041
R/R sees a lot of overseas representation in tourney top 8s too. There are the occasional tournament where people will point and say "hey look, <50% R/R rep in the top 8" but those are few enough that they are far from being dethroned. Just looking at the A4 cards, R/R is still getting a lot of love thanks to their diverse ability pool meshing well with new stuff. R/R's rivals are hurt more by black moonbeam than R/R is. The exception is ygg, but we'll see how ygg pans out as more A4 tourneys happen and people better understand the new matchup.
>>48159449
>R/R sees a lot of overseas representation in tourney top 8s too
Mind posting some of the top 8?
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Is the meta making any sort of shift or is RR still on top?
>>48158146
We got Razputin and Mozart last time, so I am betting two cards again.
>>48138740
But I am. Not with the big guy though. Mine is mono dark with a heavy discard theme. Machina can get your wincons any time so I just wait until my opponent is out of resources then attack.
>>48159651
Library of Will.
The Italy Master Final was 5 R/R, 3 Shion. Shion won the tournament, for what it is worth. There hasn't been much word on post BoA tournaments yet but supposedly Australia had one where yggdrasil took 5 of the top 8 slots.
My interest in the game is dying.
It's a fun game, but I really don't care for anyone in the shop. Most of them are yugioh player levels of cringe and annoyance.
Meta decks completely stomp everything else, which is to be expected because it's a TCG. But unfortunately for me it makes it hard to run anything that isn't T1 because they're so cheap to build.
It's fast, which can be good but a lot of times it feels way too fast. Even the control decks normally get their boss monsters and win cons out by turn 4-ish
>>48168402
>tree 5/8 top 8
ok im interested, wheres the list
>>48168402
>>48171832
eww nvm they are playing new frontiers
>>48169485
Yeah that's just part of playing a TCG unfortunately. If your local scene is still New Frontier, then you are gonna get the guy who netdecks Turbo Musketeers or Seer of the Blue Moon Crocosharks and derives amusement in t2-t3 wins. Shame the folks at your scene are ruining things for you. As for the general speed of the game, supposedly things are going to slow down in the new cluster, but they've been saying that for a while so who knows.
>>48172427
I was sad to see some of the grimm staples go, but man I am not missing the New Frontier decks.
What deck should I bring to my locals this week ? Should I go green machina, Apostle blazer or necrolance?
So do most of you play at an LGS or do you just have a playgroup? The only store that even sold FoW near me shut down and I've been forced to play with the same 3 guys I know willing to try this game out.
>>48173118
Try apostles blazer. Necrolance is the old bandwagon and green machines is becoming the new bandwagon. If your LGS tries to keep things very competitive, you'll see plenty of both to understand the two decks without having to actually play them and instead better understand the matchups.
>>48138740
Dark Alice Shadow Tribal, with some Undead Arthurs thrown in, and some removal. I do well enough in my local tournies, usually take around third or second.
>>48173749
>So do most of you play at an LGS
A friend and I do, but there's barely a scene here due to the shop kind of screwing over anything that isn't MTG, 40k, or D&D. Basically, there's no good day to run a tournament nor is there a slot to do so because of the sheer amount of events they run for MTG alone. At the moment, there's only one day in the week where MTG isn't having an event being held there. So it's been a bit hard to play in a tournament, except when they try to run it at the same time as Modern is being played. Which, by the way, is a terrible idea since it's been about 7 times so far since February that we've had to cancel it due to how many show up for MTG Modern.
It's all done on purpose as well, there's no other reason to try and run it on that day when the shop is full up on players from Magic, so of course there's no room for anything else that night.
>>48175999
>Cost of 6 to J activate.
>Reduce by 3 if you control Maximilian
Hmm, well that's not too bad, I mean, Aliasse was a hard cast at 5 which makes her nearly unplayable but at least she has promise for explosive otk shenanigans.
>Maximilian also costs 6
God damnit. Is there a good way to cheat this guy onto the field? Turn 7-8 activate if not using ramp is way too fucking slow for this game.
Also, looks like black got poor man's black moonbeam.
>>48176572
>Is there a good way to cheat this guy onto the field?
Maybe something along the lines of discarding him and so on? I'm not too sure, I generally don't run Water/Darkness at all.
>>48177443
The best I can think of is graveyard him into shadow doppelganger shenanigans, but it's still slow and clunky, weak to all forms of graveyard control and destroy effects, ALL to get your ruler out in a reasonable timeframe.
She's going to need some help from the unrevealed cards to be usable even amongst the Vingolf rulers. Still better then red though!
>>48173749
I play at my lgs, we have 12 people each weekend for constructed
Bought a box yesterday and pulled melgis and arla. I'm not really good at deck building so If any could give me some recommendations that would be great.
Are 4 sacred beasts still relevant? I really want to try them out with pricia
>>48179138
Extremely. Although right now it might as well be called Huang Long ramp. You can run either Pricia or R/R as a ruler, both have ups and downs.
>>48179159
Neat. Hopefully my states are running alice cluster only so i can test them out there.
>>48173749
My LGS runs stuff for fow every tuesday/sunday outside of special events with anywhere from 8-14 people showing up on average. Apparently there is another one nearby but i havent checked it out yet.
>buy box of battle for antarctica
>pull machina, full art machina, and uber machina from the same box
>don't really wanna play machines
I wonder if I should sell or hold on to them.
>>48173749
me and my friends have got a good play group of around 7 people but all of us are too much of jews to actually get a palyset of ruler's memoria so we're all waiting until duals are released before playing at an LGS
>>48179713
>have opened a total of 3 boxes, 1 a1, 1 a2, 1a3
>maybe one full art ruler from each box if im lucky and a few other full arts
>still no uber
Maybe one day
>>48179106
I assume this is Attoractia. Melgis' deck basically builds itself. Lancelot and strong 3 drop fire resonators. Then some Guinevere and rukh eggs. Laevaetinn x 4. The less 2-3 drop resonators you run the weaker his flip becomes. Tap Laevaetinn and crash him into an enemy to flip back every turn and keep activating to flood the field.
>>48180251
Pretty sure all boxes are guaranteed a full art ruler, at least from A2 forward I am nearly certain of this. If there are exceptions, they are far and few.
The chances are cited at 1 in 6 boxes to pull a god pack OR an uber from A2 forward. So not getting an uber in 3 boxes is hardly against the odds.
Do we know the full list of Dual Stones we're getting in Vingolf 2, or is it just the same ones basically from Vingolf 1?
>>48138740
Isn't Machina expensive?
>>48182370
Not at all, Machina 1.0 is like $4 on the market and his starter deck is still $15.
>>48180251
>>48180972
I've opened maybe 9 boxes total (though one was MoA and one was CMF) and I've gotten 3 god packs and one uber.
Has anyone tried this deck out?
http://fow.cardgamerobot.com/deck/872/
It looks extremely fun to play.
On another note; could I get some advice on what to main board and side board in general? For example, right now since alot of people are playing rulers memoria there is alot of regalia, would you want to mainboard hears and barrier of shadows? Or would it be better to keep them in sideboard then switch into them once you see your opponent use them?
>>48149573
That applies to a bunch of TCGs.
http://www.coretcg.com/catalog/force_of_will_tcg-force_of_will_preorders/force_of_will_darkness_fire_light_water_wind_starter_deck_bundle_bipreorderbi/330243
So new starter decks are going to be $25 each now?
>>48184454
It says they come with a playmat. If it's an actual playmat and it looks good it might be worth it.
>>48184572
Not expecting it to be anything other than the standard paper ones that usually come with starter decks. Jordan mentioned the prices will be increasing in the new ones, but never really said why they well. I'm hoping it is something decent, bu the boxes just don't look big enough to be getting a decent one with them.
>>48184454
>http://www.coretcg.com/catalog/force_of_will_tcg-force_of_will_preorders/force_of_will_darkness_fire_light_water_wind_starter_deck_bundle_bipreorderbi/330243
3 boosters, and 2 six sided die seem niice, also cards not printed yet
>>48186070
Also mainly wonder if they were going to release the standard ones they had for the Alice Cluster just with the cards, or if this is the new format they'll be doing from now on with them.
What are the chances of this game actually becoming big? Or at least as big as Vanguard?
>>48188197
It's bigger than Vanguard IMO, but that's a pretty fucking low bar.
>>48188208
It's the companies first game they've made, so that's not too bad. It just needs a bigger team to work on it in general, and the English localization needs to replace Jordan. There's so many fucking typos, grammar issues, and other errors in the new Alice Cluster 4 set that it's extremely apparent that this isn't a one person job.
There's no one even proof-reading his translations nor anything else. I have nothing against the guy, but come on man.
>>48188255
>There's so many fucking typos, grammar issues, and other errors in the new Alice Cluster 4
I dunno, as bad as they are (and they are really bad), it's not the worst translations we've gotten. Game needs a proper translation team though, like real bad.
>>48188208
No one around my area plays FoW, but everyone at local card store plays Vanguard on fridays along with YGO and MtG.
>>48188292
>I dunno, as bad as they are (and they are really bad), it's not the worst translations we've gotten. Game needs a proper translation team though, like real bad.
It's literally just Jordan that does everything for FoW in the West in English. Everything. The site, the cards, the events, and other crap. That's too much from one person to expect things to go perfectly.
>>48188316
That's kinda impressive.
>>48188328
He needs help, and FoW needs to actually hire people, but they can't since they can't afford to apparently. At least that's what he said in a livestream.
>>48188255
>>48188292
Well it's one of those situations where the game would only get a larger localization team if there is a sizable local player-base for it. So while it is kind of annoying seeing all the errors, I suppose we have to put up with it and hope it maintains a decent enough following for them to dedicate more resources for the localization.
If that were to happen they may do reprints or something to fix the errors.
>>48188335
>>48188341
That sucks.
I really hope this game goes off.
>>48188382
I think it's actually growing more in the U.S./West than it is in Japan. Not to say it's doing bad there, just that it's growth has been pretty flat.
>>48188390
Games huge on West coast from what I hear, in South Florida it has a minor scene but more northern fl.
>>48188382
Pretty sure they released something showing they were 4th biggest TCG either in the US or in the world not too long ago.
Italy about to have their NGP, bets on what will win ? I bet machina otk or Reflect faeries/Bunnies
>>48188898
Machines should have a strong showing.
>>48188898
Some madman who will run machines while simultaneously running cards to punish all of the other overextending machines decks.
>>48189170
I'm just looking forward to seeing all the crazy stuff that's going to be popping up over the next few weeks.
>>48188959
The scary thing about machines is that it is one of the few deck types that doesn't tend to run ruler's memoria and a good base of regalia, so when dual stones are legal again the deck variety is just going to get nasty. You can literally run blue or green as the base for your dual stones and then dip into whatever color you want for support cards. Flame trap, space time anomaly, black moonbeam, etc.
>>48189788
>when dual stones are legal again
I really need to see what they are, but I'm going to assume it's basically the same as before. Trying to figure out a way to remove Blazer from my W/R Knights of the Round Table deck, and having those legal again will help a ton.
>>48188835
They did. And 4th is impressive, considering that 1-3 are Magic, YGO, and Pokemon, usually in that order but occasionally YGO and poke switch.
So I guess the Zero promo that they're distributing to stores, or at least mine anyway, is the original art and not the one they showed last month.
Has anybody else picked one up, or gotten the newer one?
>>48194197
Son of a bitch, I knew I should have went on Wednesday.
>>48194197
Speaking of promos, the August promos are looking spectacular, with Croco-Shark in particular being 10/10.
>>48194865
>>48194197
Yeah for as much bitching people did about censorship, it seems like booty zero is everywhere and modest skirt zero is actually the harder one to find. Funny how that worked out.
>>48194865
While a true crocoshark promo deck would be glorious, that would kill your wallet. This thing is going to be terribly overpriced in the secondhand market. Might as well just get it from your LGS and move on.
>>48194885
Im so excited for when that promo gets release considering I run seals in almost any deck I play.
>>48194197
Fuck, I should've gone. I need to find this card.
>>48194865
I actually like this more than the Zero one.
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>>48188208
What? I know lots more people that play Vanguard, but I guess it varies by region. Europe or America?
>>48156880
Played a bunch of this tonight ( bout 10 games or so) not good vs control but shits on other deck, very fun, but needs to side heavily into control.
I have a tough time telling if Arthur is really good or really not worth it. Feels like every time I can get him out on the field, my opponent will generally be at the point they can deal with him. I mean, if I'm controlling the field, then I generally don't even need to use him ever. And the few times I can get him out he always feels pointless with how much I have to protect him from non darkness/fire things.
How expensive is it to get started in this game? Could I build a decent starter deck for around $10 and be able to play with people?
>>48201739
Buying singles and having a general idea of what to build is incredibly cheap compared to other TCG. You would more than likely be able to do that with playing against others, it just depends on what you want to build.
Here's a good site for singles:
http://www.tcgplayer.com/
>>48201887
Is there a site for good "pauper's" or cheap decks so I can get an idea of how to build? I'm brand new to the game, and my local card shop has alot of singles, but this site looks amazing.
>>48202014
Honestly man, you're best bet is to find one of the Alice Cluster starter decks and play with that one for a bit. I'd get pretty familiar with the way things work before trying to buy singles, and really try and ask at your shop if there's events/people that come to play often and ask them for advice.
It's really when you get an idea for a deck that you should start using a site to order singles. But like I said, you really need to get used to things first before moving on to building custom decks.
>>48202130
I see. I'm just wanting to kind of make a cheap $10 deck and play some to see if I like the game. thanks anon.
>>48202479
The official starter decks are $15, and some of them aren't too bad at all. And also, you can try and ask some FoW players in your local scene if you could maybe try a game/ ask the shop itself if they still have the "Learning Decks" that some were given and such.
>>48202531
great idea... thanks!
>>48202479
Machina is very easy to build and extremely good with the newest set. You could buy the starter and probably find the singles you need really easily to fill him out.
But the starters or the teaching decks are probably the best intro you can get. If none of the current starters tickle your fancy, there's also another set coming out in September/October, as well as the Valkyria Chronicles Vingolf box coming in August. But the Vingolf looks pretty trash so far, so maybe not that.
>>48202628
>Valkyria Chronicles Vingolf box coming in Augus
Don't forget it launches on July 29th and such.
>>48202628
>But the Vingolf looks pretty trash so far, so maybe not that.
If you remember the intention of the orignal one, it was never meant to be something highly competitive, and used more so in the way of teaching/easing people into more difficult mechanics/methods to play.
>>48202740
first set had thunders/stoning to deaths/dual stones which at the time almost all around 5 dollars each
>>48202867
Mozart and Razputin were decent saw play too, not to mention Vlad got whole decks built around her.
>>48202867
Yes, but what I'm saying is what the company said themselves what the purpose of Vingolf is. Well, asides the blatant cross-over business and such. Still, this set will have it's use in letting Dual Stones be used once the rotation happens soon enough, and we still don't have a full list of what all is in it.
Locals are having weekly tournament. is Machina green otk the best choice for not knowing what meta s ?>
>>48202947
>is Machina green otk the best choice for not knowing what meta s ?>
It's really hard to say. I've been using my highly impractical Blazer Knights of the Round Table deck and I've done decently well with it so far. I don't follow the Meta too closely since I generally just build decks that I find fun/like a theme behind them and such. Overall though, Machina decks are going to be pretty damn dangerous from now on, so trying to run one/make one might be something fun to try and do at the moment.
I'm just waiting on the Online client to be a thing at some point soon. At least it'll be nice to be able to try my decks out with various other ones from around world and such.
>>48202628
How do I build Machina? Are there sample decks online?
>>48203466
There might be on here, but it's getting a bit late for me. Check it out a bit, and maybe searching around once your done can help. Also, there's some Youtube channels that go over decks/cards/etc that might help, but the names escape me.
http://fowtavern.com/
>>48203499
thanks again anon
>>48150849
I vaguely remember her having larger breasts
>>48205187
Nope, she's pretty flat in general.
>>48203766
>>48203466
And here's those channels I mentioned a bit ago:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC00Lwzo3I4hNUHLLWn2QAxQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwVjrvSJWz58ASKd3WjAag
They're kind of messy with some things, but have some pretty nice deck profiles. Well, except when the one tries to throw Cheshire Cat in bloody well everything, but that's a thing.
>>48202947
Nobody knows what the meta is at the moment. R/R and Machina 1.0 are still generating most the buzz, and the recent Italian tourney backed that up, but since we're only 10 days into a new set it's hard to say. Take the time to experiment around, it's better to do so before tournament results really start filtering in and people just build around the top tier decks.
Saw how awesome the art was in this game and picked up 2x starter decks and a booster box of BFA. I got about 4-5 of each magic stone from the box so I was planning on buying another box just so I could get 10 of each, but I'm wondering what set I should buy the second box from. I'm not concerned with making a top tier deck, I just want to have a nice base of cards that I can make a variety of decks from and have some fun with. Any advice?
>>48208376
Probably either Twilight Wanderer or Moonlit Savior. Both have some really fun rulers and some neat cards.
>>48208376
If you can find it at a decent price, The Twilight Wanderer has a lot of value in it. What starter decks did you pick up? that could influence the choice.
>>48208422
I got a white and a blue. The white ruler was some sort of archer guy, and the blue ruler was a princess of love or something.
>>48208478
Those are Seven Kings, so Arla (bow guy) and Valentina (best princess).
>>48208512
>best princess
I do enjoy how her chest keeps increasing in each new card she receives.
>>48208399
>>48208422
OK, Called my LGS and they have boxes in stock so I think I'll go with that. Thanks!
>>48208600
Her tiddie was too good for us and left us for a better place.
>>48208800
She'll be back. There's no way they'll end her story right here, especially since she's still alive inside of Pricia. Which is someone who really can't get a break in the story of this game, because hell, she's lost all her friends, country, then lost her newer friends, and then ends up losing herself in the end.
>>48208845
They've already hinted that she's going after Alice's body next with the flavor text on the Pricia/Valentina flip. Which makes it pretty obvious that whomever "Valentina" is, this isn't the first time she's swapped bodies.
I wonder what happens if she leaves a body while it's still alive. Will we ever get dumb ol' Pricia back?
>>48209212
I really hope we do. Pricia is my favorite fow character
>>48209212
>Will we ever get dumb ol' Pricia back?
I hope so, too many bad things have happened to her over the course of FoW's storyline.
But that also makes me interested in what's going to happen with Alice as well.
So this is basically Duel Masters with a resource system?
>>48210858
wat
>>48210858
No, this isn't kaijudo.
>>48210939
well it has flip cards and dedicated resource cards.
>>48212559
>flip cards and dedicated resource cards.
same game then, you called it.
ded
New guy from earlier here, gonna open this box of Twilight Wanderer now. Wish me luck.
>>48213893
It can only end well.
>>48213873
in what sense?
>>48213893
Got a ruler in the third pack, "Reflect, Child of Potential"/"Refrain, Child of Convergence"
The Refrain side is foil, is that always the case?
>>48213998
Reflect is the Ruler, and Refrain is the J-Ruler
How do you guys come up with deck concepts? I've got various rulers and several packs of cards. I'm not looking to win tournaments or do well at my (non existing) LGS, just casual since that my only real option.
How do I take garbage and make it stink less?
OK, opened the box, and now altogether I have 6 rulers. Valentina, the Princess of Love; Arla, the Winged Lord; Rezzard, the Dark Necromancer; Machina, Clever Researcher; Reflect, Child of Potential; and Sylvia Gill Palarilias.
It looks like Rezzard and Machina would really require 4-of their magic stone which I don't have.
Reflect/Refrain looks like a pretty good control Ruler that would work in any colors, but I'm leaning toward making a red/green deck with Sylvia (partly because I got a full art version of her).
>>48214936
Sylvia is a very good start, just be careful. Once you flip her to the j-ruler side you lose access to green without the proper stones.
>>48214802
>How do you guys come up with deck concepts?
I love Arthurian legends, so I built my entire deck just using the Knights of the Round Table. That's it. There's some chants/instants/so on, but the deck solely focuses on them, and it honestly doesn't do too bad at all.
>>48214936
>>48215369
Here's the first draft of my Sylvia deck:
1x First Flight's Memoria
2x Wind Magic Stone
7x Fire Magic Stone
4x Beast Queen's Guardian
3x Fruit of Yggdrasil
4x Bloodfire Dragon
4x Whelp Drake
3x Flame Dragon Commandant
4x Sylvia's Clanmate
4x Flamewing Wyvern
4x Caldera-Born Dragon
2x Sylvia's Roar
3x Home of the Wingmen
3x The Beast Queen's Counterattack
2x Beat of the Phoenix Wings
Basically, dragons with some card draw and a little bit of removal.
>http://www.fowtcg.it/coverage/Italian_NGP_2016/coverage_int.asp?id=39
Not surprised but the 1st and 2nd place decks really are nice, really want to play that standby control reflect deck
>>48217004
>Nothing but R&R
This is why this game is failing.
>>48217141
top 8 is very diverse if you look at the lists.
>>48217274
Relying solely on R&R's gimmick is enough to show how stagnant this game is becoming. Rotation isn't going to save it, no matter how much Jordan says the new Rulers will shit on them.
>https://friendandfow.com/2016/07/11/2016-philippine-national-grand-prix-top-8-decklists/
>>48208845
>lost her newer friends
What happened to Marybell in the storyline? I tried keeping up with the flavor, but the story translation is too poor for me to slog through.
>>48217575
Everyone and everything on Attoractia was destroyed when Lapis crushed the planet down into a Regalia.
Alice, Kaguya, and Charlotte were the only good guys to escape. Lapis, Alisaris, and Valentina(now using Pricia's body that she's taken over) escaped on the bad guy side. Everyone else is gone.
>>48218064
>Charlotte
The fuck is Charlotte? What happened to Shion?
>>48218165
Faria's sister, right?
>>48218165
Charlotte is Faria's sister. Her introduction definitely could've been handled better, she kind just came out of nowhere.
Shion took over Valentina's position as monarch of Shangri-la after she and Pricia "killed" her. But the whole planet was destroyed shortly after, so she died along with everyone else.
>>48218494
Technically, isn't everyone inside the globe though? Has it been destroyed?
>>48218574
I mean I guess it isn't said anywhere that they're "dead". They might still be in the globe, yes. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the future clusters has somebody taking the globe from Lapis and freeing everyone from Attoractia.
But unless that happens, the world and everyone in it is more or less gone.
>>48218888
Jordan did say this is probably not the last we've seen of that world.
About those new rulers... Anyone using them? How're they doing for you so far? How do you build new Melgis?
>>48219372
They suck
>>48219372
Arla isn't bad, but I don't care for them in general.
>>48219487
I feel they are all bad unless you can get there 4 stones out
>>48219372
New Melgis is very one dimensional. you just stuff a deck with the usual fire core and then a bunch of 3 cost resonators such as Urthr, Athena, Pricia, etc. You can run some spells but each non-resonator in the deck or non-optimal resonator weakens his flip, which is the only thing he has going for him. From there, 4x demon sword and suicide him with imperishable into your enemy. Deathscythe and burn to cinders are not your friend.
Overall the 5 kings 2.0 are a massive disappointment. Very flawed in design.
>>48221799
>Overall the 5 kings 2.0 are a massive disappointment. Very flawed in design.
Yeah, but at least he have the Lapis Cluster ones to look forward to.
Well, there's something for everyone's Fairy decks.
>>48217004
How would you even pilot that valentina deck? Im usually flipping with 2-3 stones out i can cast pricias god art, but i cant see how huanglong comes out
>>48223783
I just hope they either ban R/R or Jordan follows through on his speculation that people will want to play lapis rulers over R/R. Problem is, he seemed to think black moonbeam was a great answer to R/R when in reality R/R has better answers for it than any other non-immune ruler, so it actually benefits because most of the matchups that can beat R/R that aren't a mirror match despise moonbeam.
>>48224762
That's really all we can do. If they don't end up being better, then all we can do is shitfling towards Jordan since he's been talking up those Lapis Rulers for almost two months now for how well they'll do against R/R, and how most will play them. Honestly? I think he's just blowing hot air with all this. I don't see this meta changing anytime soon, and I just wish that regional events would do something about it. When the majority of your top 16 are all using the same ruler, and yes their decks do have some variation, but all the play of them are all the same damn thing with the dependency on R/R.
I'm just so sick and tire of hearing the "Well, you can play them too!" I'd really rather play a deck I find fun to play, even if it's not nearly as strong as that.
>>48223984
>Average fairy player.jpg
How is Rezzard looking with all of the new support?
This sucks. I really want to play this game but I just found out the there are only 2 stores without having to drive 100+ miles to play in tournaments, and 1 just closed up and the other doesn't have enough people coming in consistently.
What should I do? Should I just move on back to Magic?
>>48228375
Invest in something cheap like a starter if you haven't already and try to gather some interest at the LGS that is struggling.
Valkyria Chronicles set will interest some people who otherwise wouldn't have bothered, and Lapis launch should renew some interest. Big problem right now with FoW local events is that Eldritch Moon is coming out soon, and not many people can bankroll two TCGs, especially if one is MtG.
>>48228332
Which Rezzard? 2.0 is terribly flawed in several ways. 1.0 is hilariously the only tournament-legal ruler not named Yggdrasil or R/R that laughs at opponents who main deck Black Moonbeam.
>>48229248
I don't see why VC set would interest people (when the VC1 3D art is so bad and VC2 art is the shitty character spreads, they could've just ripped the 2D art from VC3 for VC1 and 2 based on the characters so far presented instead) outside of dual stones and non-creature spells. I think the new starters, coming with the die, and along with the new sets will do more to drive interest. Would love it if FoW picked up in my area, but this is magic country here and Vanguard+Yugioh are standing rather strong in 2nd place.
>>48229364
>but this is magic country here
It is everywhere. You can't even try and fit a new TCG anywhere due to MTG.
>>48229364
>daily reminder that your VC waifu will forever be immortalized as a complete dogshit card.
>>48229512
>>48229364
Okay, honestly guys, did you really expect these cards to have raita's artwork on them? Especially when Vingolf 1 was complete dogshit as well?
>>48229540
Seeing as they did VC3 like pic related (rips from the game), I expected them to do the same kind of rips for VC1 and 2 since the resources are available. Instead they used shitty 3D for VC1 and cheap concept art for VC2.
I am not asking for much, just small bit of effort.
>>48229634
>I am not asking for much, just small bit of effort.
There's the problem.
>>48229634
I should clarify that I expected them to do the rips solely from VC3 for VC1 and 2 characters, as the spoiled characters are available for VC Vingolf.
There is ZERO excuse for: >>48154894
>>48229682
>>48229676
Let me clarify this a bit: FoW can't even afford to hire another English translator for their team due to lack of resources. So that's why there's literally one person translating this game, the website, events, and everything else into English by himself.
This company has no money.
>>48229702
I understand that, but they had VC3 resources available for their VC1+2 cards. They had a route that costed them the same amount of money+effort, and they went down an uglier route for NO REASON.
Again, no excuse.
>>48229724
That's up to whoever is doing the cards, man. Yeah, they look bad, but there's not much you can do about their aesthetics for this.
>>48229724
Also their choice of characters. With all the squad members available, they have to choose the pregnant lady to be made as a card.
>>48230124
I am guessing they need some way to pad out WHITE due to the size of Edy Detchment vs Squad 7 itself.
>>48229248
Yeah, I've already grabbed a couple of starters and have my tournament deck set up as a tcgplayer tournament is happening roughly 200 miles from home, but as >>48229511 and yourself said, most people aren't willing to consider another game with MTG in the mix.
>>48230852
This is honestly why I've been vary of investing much into this game, there's no one to play with.
>>48233012
There's a scene for it in my area, but the problem is that MTG has over twenty years of fans along with it and people have a hard time trying anything new. And it just makes too much money for a shop to try and clear enough space to run an event for it.
It's growing, albeit slowly.
Why are the new rulers so shit? Lapis rulers better live up to the hype.
>>48234068
>Lapis rulers better live up to the hype.
You know they won't. All they're doing, and by they I mean Jordan, is just building hype for it. With Grimm finally rotating out at all levels for current play, they just want to drum up some hype and hope for things to move on from R/R connection railroading across all the top 8s.
Why do i never see apollo in valentina 2.0 decks? Is flying just not worth it?
On another note is valentina 2 even still viable?
>>48235372
Black Moonbeam being a thing probably makes people too scared to run her.
