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Has anybody ever given you shit for not liking stereotypical nerd stuff?

>I don't think Star Wars is that great.
>[Unintelligible rage]
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>>48134126

Yeah, I briefly lived with a guy who was really into memes. And he'd get really smug when I didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
For context, I had been living on another continent for the previous five years. I didn't spend those five years living on the internet like he did.
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I can always guarantee a two hour shit fest out of my group by stating my opinion that the prequals were better than the original trilogy. Which is an undeniable truth.
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Not really.

I can not really stand Star Trek and no one really gives me shit about it.

Have you tried meeting real human beings and not just hanging out on 4chan looking for reactions?
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>>48134202
I would only agree to this as a setting for a game.

Games during the rebellion are shit and should never be the norm.
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Was talking with some guys at the table and the topic of Final Fantasy came up. Guy said he liked FF7 and FF10. Okay, whatever. I said I liked FF6. He then proceeded to tell me FF6 sucked. I'd never given someone such a dirty look before in my life.
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>>48134225
Most average people don't like Star Trek.
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>>48134260
Prepare for more disgust.

I have had the chance to play every single FF game to come out, with offers from some friends to give me the games or even system if I needed them. I have one of the new games here in the house that I was given as a gift and never opened. I have never played a FF game outside a store demo when the original xbox came out.

I most likely will never play them because I just feel no reason to. I heard them years ago about what all went into them, someone tried to get me to watch a movie tie in and I just could not care less.
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>>48134126
Yes, but I've also had the guy who loudly proclaims how much he dislikes some stereotypical nerd thing, even when it's not the subject of discussion.

>Man, I don't like anime
>I just don't get why people like animated stuff
>Can we not watch this anime movie? I don't like anime
It's a fucking medium, mate, not a genre. There's common elements, sure, but it's like saying you don't like American filmmaking, it's almost meaningless.
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>>48134260
To be fair, FF6 did kind of suck.
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>>48134126
Pretty sure everyone has.
Nerds, despite their ostricazation from normal culture, aren't really any better about ostracizing people then anyone else.
Actually I've seen plenty of evidence to support the idea that they're WORSE then most people, siezing chances to alienate and insult people who like something different as if punishing an unrelated person for how they perceive themselves to be seen by everyone else, sort of like victims of siege mentality for whom everyone who is not with them is the "enemy" regardless of how even relevant to anything they are at all.
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>>48134323

Nah that's fine. Trying to get into something new can be a drag.

>>48134327

No, it really didn't. FF7 was mediocre as shit and FF10 sucked, but FF6 was great. Don't be a cunt.
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>>48134225
I'm a big fan of TNG, but I can't really stand most of the other serieses, and everyone gives me shit for not liking the original one
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>>48134423
I watched like 5 episodes of the one with the captain who is on ncis now and decided not to get into it that much.

Got worse when I saw the episodes with Patrick Stewart and the new movies just shot all interest in it for me. The only ones involving Shatner I saw were two of the movies, Wrath of Khan and the one about the whales.
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>>48134202
What reasoning could you have for that? The prequels have a factually weaker story. Not to say that the original trilogy were the pinnacle of storytelling, they were far from it, but they made logical sense in an A to B fashion that the prequels failed to do.
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>>48134480
What you watched was Enterprise, and it is nigh universally considered one of if not THE worst trek series. So...
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>>48134202
Ah, hello there /co/.
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>>48134260
>>48134327
>>48134366
Not that anon, but I'd say FF6 was great in the story department, but in the gameplay department it was really hot garbage. It's like they made no attempt to balance the abilities against each other at all. Why bother with black magic when Edgar gets an at-will attack that hits all enemies with enough damage to one-shot most early-game grunts?

Gameplay-wise, the best of the classic Final Fantasies was V. The popularity of the four job fiesta can attest that.
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Every time I say I like John Wick's games. They're not perfect, but I've spent less time fixing the rules than I have with D20 stuff.
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>>48134813
You have okay tastes. I can certainly see arguments both way, but I think you're closer to correct than most.
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>>48134126
I've never read the lotr books, and I have no intention to. Apparently that invalidates my enjoyment of everything fantasy and nerdy.
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>>48134539
My main argument is basically what >>48134258 said. The setting is just better. It's more sci-fi, which is understandable since the origionals didn't have cgi to play with. The Clone Wars era feels like a complete living world while the original trilogy was just basically a hero overcoming the evil story, which does not interest me as much.

And Gungans are way better than Ewoks.
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>>48134201
This reminds me of when /tg/ gave me shit for not knowing the significance of an hero.
I mean, I don't care, it's fucking /tg/, I could "handle the bantz" or whatever, but being smug over someone else not knowing a trivial internet meme referenced by a one letter grammar error is just laughable.
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>>48134980

It meant you were a rotten newfag. Jesus Christ, have some decency.
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>>48134202
>I can always guarantee a two hour shit fest out of my group by stating my opinion that the prequals were better than the original trilogy.
I can totally see that.
The shit fest that is.
I found the prequels decidedly lacking in scoundrels for my tastes.
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>>48134722
Fuck off. Not even /co/ is that retarded. Not on purpose anyway.
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I really hate the overuse of zombies in pop culture. I always tell people that zombies are just a crutch to avoid writing an antagonist and they always get violently angry with me when I say that.
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>>48134126
Constantly. Take away the label and the support network and unintelligible rage and BO is basically all geeks are. And I never made "being a geek" part of my personal identity, nor do I care to keep close friends with geeks exclusively. When they get all pissy and claim I'm "not a real geek" I'm more relieved than anything. I'm just a "normal" person who happens to know all the subjects they've dedicated inordinate amounts of time and effort to better than them. It's a classification that affords me the best of both worlds.
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Not /tg/ related (not that this blog thread is either), but I had someone lose their shit on me for not liking Sword Art Online. Which isn't entirely the case, I said the story was garbage and clearly written by a teenager, but the production values were decent. Of course, this being the [current year], disliking one aspect means that you dislike something wholesale, even if you say otherwise.

>>48135004
This, lurk more faggot.
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>>48135076
That's called being stuck up, and it just makes you an asshole.
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>>48135083
>I had someone lose their shit on me for not liking Sword Art Online.
are you fucking kidding me
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>>48135076

At least you've found a way to feel better than someone else, and that's all that counts.
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>>48134932
>basically a hero overcoming the evil story
mate, that's literally every. singly. star wars movie's plot.
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>>48134288
Most people don't know what Star Trek is.
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>>48134325
>It's a fucking medium, mate, not a genre.
You reminded me of this story.
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>>48135048
>I'm surprised that people get upset when I say their favorite x is shit and push my hot opinions like they're gospel irl.
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>>48135206
but anakin became the evil?
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>>48134126
I don't like 40k.
I don't like Star Trek.
I don't like Lord of The Rings.
Pre Sith Star Wars is okay, the rest I don't care for.
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The looks on people's faces when I say that Firefly is just another cheesy scifi space opera and doesn't need a second season are amazing.
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>>48135361
>>48135363
I also believe in this too.

The only major sci-fi franchise I like is Dune.
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>>48135363
But you're right.
I think it is pretty good, but the movie resolved enough of the hanging plot threads that there is no need for any more
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>>48134126
I don't like Harry Potter
I don't like Pokemon
I don't like Star Trek

Normies are the worst. Especially the "I'm so nerdy xD tee hee" kind
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>>48134225
>>48134288
>>48134423
>>48134480
The thing about Star Trek is that every series has some aspect of it that is so bad that no one can rationally claim it didn't suck a little.
I love TNG and DS9 and their early seasons are just painful.
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>>48135352
watch the end of the sixth movie mate.
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>>48134126
Bazinga
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>>48135363
never seen Firefly, have no interests in doing so, might even have less now that people are pushing it onto each other.
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>>48135495
It's not really that they push it on people, there's just a giant cult circlejerk about how it's THE BEST SHOW EVER and got cancelled before its time was up, even though that happened almost 15 years ago.
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>>48135048
>I really hate the overuse of zombies in pop culture.
A very valid opinion.

>I always tell people that zombies are just a crutch to avoid writing an antagonist
You're always wrong and likely resorting to spouting a predecided opinion rather than actually discussing this with anyone.
Pro tip: "alternative to" /= "crutch to avoid"
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>>48135004
>>48135083
Boy, you guys sure are the Redgrin Grumboldt of calling out newfags, good work!
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>>48135713
Calling out? That's just genuine advice man, it spares the uninitiated embarrassment when they make a social faux pas.
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>>48135603
hey i can talk about things that went wrong or didn't happen ages ago too but i don't push it onto people and i've learned to let go.
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>hate star wars
>hate firefly
>hate Magic the gathering
>everybody at my local game shop knows this
>get into arguments all the time
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>>48135812
If you're the one who said "lurk more, faggot", that's a good point, my bad.
I still don't consider asking for an explanation of an unintelligible word salad to be a faux pas though.
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>>48134126
Sort of. I'm not a fan of mecha anime, but I would eagerly play the sort of tabletop RPG where I can create and/or customize every aspect of a giant robot and go on sweet tank-stomping mecha combat missions on the ground or in space.

I just don't want the kind of hot-blooded "I can do it because I believe in friendship" type stuff that mecha anime seems to push all the time. I want down-and-dirty gearhead greasemonkey blueprints stat point juggling mecha gaming.

Apparently that makes me a gigantic faggot, but given the way some of these people act, I'm okay with sucking some dick if it means I don't have to interact with them.
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>>48135048
>>48135620
I hate Zombies because in reality they are either going to be no real threat at all or we are all so fucked you might as well just kill yourself to end the suffering. I don't see a way you can do something where the zombies are able to spread rapidly enough to take over the planet and yet not infect every one. Especially considering most types of zombies are mindless.
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>>48134126
>has anyone ever met someone that liked a thing they did not.

Yes.
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>>48135363
What made Firefly so unique among scifi space operas was the fact that it was arguably the best space Western space opera made in a generation of TV. I really can't think of any other film that combines the themes of high technology and the boundlesses of interstellar travel and the lawlessness and romance of the wild west. The cast was very well done for TV show of the genre, it's a pity Fox just dropped them after one season.
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>>48135878
>hey i can talk about things that went wrong or didn't happen ages ago too but i don't push it onto people and i've learned to let go.
As a card carrying member of the said circlejerk cult, I agree.
Pushing shit onto the unwilling is crap.
I enjoy my circlejerking cult and I encourage you to join if there's a chance you'll enjoy yourself, but I won't push you in.

That said, I tricked my dad into watching the first episode of Breaking Bad.
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>>48134358

This.

I was at a store today, waiting in a long line. There was an old man in front of me. He looked back, as we had been in line for about 5 minutes now, and spoke to me.

You like baseball?

I don't know why he asked, but I said no.

He simply said that was fine, and asked if I liked camping. I do, so we talked about camping until he checked out.

People only get upset when you don't like something they do if they have invested themselves a great deal into that thing. Nerds love to invest their entire soul into anime or sonic oc or whatever, so they sperg when someone else doesn't like it.
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>>48136036
let's differentiate mecha as mechs shaped like people and just mech, which is a bipedal tank.
mecha is shit. mechs on the other hand is more reasonable and much more serious.
altho a regular tank beats mech(a)s every day.
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>>48135243
To be quite fair the vast majority of animes fall into maybe three or four genres anymore. Shonen/magical girls, moe, awkward-guy harem and whichever one is targeted towards adolescent/teenage girls.

I enjoy some animes but Japanese animation studios are basically terrified of moving away from the standard money maker genres so to me the vast majority of actual anime does seem like effectively the same shit. Even series I really enjoyed at first dissolve into the aforementioned after one season.
>I don't want to watch a series of individual battles where dialogue literally interrupts world-defining confrontations.

>I don't want to watch /r9k/ stumble about spewing spaghetti in a NEET's ideal fantasy land.

>I don't care about uguu girls doing nothing all day.

But the thing that kills most anime for me is that there are seemingly only 10 characters with recolors in every one of them. Harem is the most guilty of it with copy-paste characters with different hair.
>Busty shy girl
>rough tomboy
>tsundere girl
>quiet childhood friend
>too young hyperactive girl who already says she's married to main character
>creepy possibly yandere girl
>too smart nerd character who may or may not be a turbo perv
...and that's about every harem anime girl ever, add animal ears/tails to taste.

And then I get to listen to every thread interrupted about ten posts in of who is best girl.
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>>48136053
>what is air-borne viruses
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>>48136119
>People only get upset when you don't like something they do if they have invested themselves a great deal into that thing. Nerds love to invest their entire soul into anime or sonic oc or whatever, so they sperg when someone else doesn't like it.

This is exactly the reason why nerds are so insufferable, and also why furries, bronies, and /pol/ are so fucking insufferable. Take away Thing They Like, and what are they? What do they have left? What percentage of their identity does not revolve around Thing They Like? The more obnoxious someone is, the smaller the percentage of their identity is left without That Thing.

>>48136153
I'd play a tank game too, to be honest, as long as I got freedom to customize the shit out of it and upgrade it as the game went on. I think mainly I just like the number-crunching upgrading aspect of a vehicle-centric game.
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>>48136059
>>>/tumblr/
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>>48136103
>Breaking Bad
a super normie show, he would probably understand it and maybe like it.
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>>48135443
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Nearly every time I go to my folks my mother always says "you would like that show Anon it's got sciency stuff and your nerdy things too and it's funny."


NO
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>>48136175
How many air-borne viruses have spread globally and affect 50+% of the population? The only way I could see it is if it was transmitted by mosquitoes and could affect other animals as well. At which point we are all fucked so might as well just end.
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>>48136171
stop watching shit anime, there are and have been plenty of good anime you can watch right now.

it's like saying that all the movies that are coming out now are bad and dumb, that doesn't mean that there aren't being produced good movies that you just aren't aware of.
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>>48136053
>I hate Zombies because in reality they are either going to be no real threat at all or we are all so fucked
The Walking Dead does this well.
Once they got used to it, a handful of zombies becomes no threat unless you're careless or really unlucky.
The threat comes from other survivors and massive swarms that could rank as natural disasters.
Water can all so be described as "no real threat at all or we are all so fucked" depending on how much you have to deal with.

>you might as well just kill yourself to end the suffering.
Pussy

>I don't see a way you can do something where the zombies are able to spread rapidly enough to take over the planet and yet not infect every one.
This is because you lack imagination and/or understanding.
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>>48136259
>i don't understand how something might happen
>therefor it can not happen
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>>48136289
I do watch good anime. There are a few series I really enjoy.

But just like the FPS video game genre 95% is the same rehashed shit. So just like if someone brings up a FPS they immediately think CoD clones the same applies to anime as the vast majority of the market is targeted towards a specific taste.
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>>48136036
Just specify that you want Real Mecha over Super Robots.
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>>48136036
Have you considered Battletech or mech warrior?
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>>48136381
See, that's a distinction I was not aware existed.

>>48136382
Thanks for the recommendations, will check both out. Are there best editions of either of those?
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>>48136189
i know plenty of furries and bronies, they're just regular people with a side interest.
if you took away their furriness/broniness, they'll just do what they already do just with less fur/pony-porn.
you're generalizing the stereotypical brony and furry to something you've seen in popular media.
the same way you would think of gays as people that dress kinky and wear spandex in public, because you've seen a bad american gay pride parade.

the reality is that most furries/bronies and just regular gays don't look different than you or act different than you.
there are alot of gays out there that you would never think of as gays, the same thing applies to furries/bronies.

to take your position, i don't thing it sound be looked down upon when someone has a specialized interest, you don't look down at musicians, athletes, political figures for being defined by that one thing they're in to, why would you not apply the same logic to other interests?
if people want to be defined by something let them, it's their lives, not yours and it doesn't affect you either way.
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>>48136300
Once people get used to the zombies why are there not whole teams of zombie hunting parties that just go out and start to retake the country? Maybe the walking dead does this I don't know I have only watched season 1 and half of 2.

You do not want to know how many animals are living in your house besides you and how easy it is for rodents and other things to get into your house. If they can be infected by the zombie virus then there is little hope you have of surviving the year. If it spread by mosquitoes or other bugs and you are not in an arctic climate you are fucked with in the week.

>>48136303
Can you come up with a way in which a zombie outbreak could spread quicker than we could contain it?
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>>48136430
Fair enough! I was generalizing and talking about the most strident, obnoxious, and visible parts of those communities.
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>>48136171
>To be quite fair the vast majority of animes fall into maybe three or four genres anymore.
I really don't think that's true.

>>48136289
>stop watching shit anime
This

>Food today sucks, there's such crappy selection and it's all junk food.
>Stop buying groceries at the gas station, anon.
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>>48136432
see >>48136175
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>>48136405
No idea! Battletech is all backward compatible, and mech warrior is the RPG version of Battletech. Mech warriors 4 is a free video game mech simulator which you might be able to find on the Internet.
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>>48136461
see>>48136259
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>>48136430
>you don't look down at musicians, athletes, political figures for being defined by that one thing they're in to

Yes, I do, in fact. Fuck low-income dreamers, fuck muscleheads, fuck fucking animals in suits acting like they know what's best then taking bribes and completely disregarding even their own opinions.

Fuck everyone. Fuck the world.
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>>48136053
>what is necromancy
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>>48134202
Yes, yes, you're very special and unique with your shit opinion.
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>>48136486
i'm not going to spoonfeed you, airborne viruses are a real thing, if you can't get that into your head then there is no point in talking to you.
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>>48136489
>>>/r9k/
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>>48134480
If you liked Wrath of Khan and The Voyage Home, you should check out the rest of The Original Series movies. People say the odd-numbered ones suck but I tend to disagree, even though I've never been really interested in any incarnation of the show.

And then there's the reboot movies, which is fine if you like JJ Abrams and skippable if you're only interested in Sci Fi.
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>>48136531
I know they are real but is there any air-borne virus that is spread quicker than we can contain it? Maybe this was serious 200 years ago but this day and age with our understanding of how contagions spread it is not really an issue any more. Once it is clear that a zombie infestation is happening then everything will go into lock down.

>>48136503
This is a good point and a solution to the problem but then you have to consider do the reanimated dead spread what ever reanimated them or does someone have to resurrect every new zombie. What happens if you kill the zombie or the person that brought them back to life? Are they intelligent or just go off of instinct?
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>>48134786
>great in the story department, but in the gameplay department it was really hot garbage

This applies to 90% of JRPGs, and Final Fantasy is no exception - and if you can't into Japanese storytelling tropes, you'll think the stories are bad, too!
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>>48135048
The problem is that you're thinking about them wrong. Zombies aren't an Antagonist the way Darth Vader or whoever is, they're like a force of nature that the heroes must overcome, and there may or may not be other characters that act as antagonists. It's the same thing in Cthulu mythos stories.
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>>48136626
The necromancer raises each of them, maybe intelligent undead can too, but if he dies, since they're unintelligent undead, they stumble around until they find something to smack. They spread their undeadness by killing and dragging the corpses back to the necromancer to reanimate
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>>48134920
You haven't suffered what I've suffered, shitheel. How can you say you love Fantasy when you won't eat her poop?
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>>48136626
ofcourse it could happen in [current year]. you don't understand what an airborne virus is, because if you did you wouldn't say "then everything will go into lock down. "
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>>48136259
>How many air-borne viruses have spread globally and affect 50+% of the population?
Well, the outbreak of the Spanish flu in 1918 is generally considered to be one of the worst pandemics in human history, infecting 20 to 40 percent of the world's population and killing 50 million in the span of just two years.
The active zombie virus has a 100% kill rate.
>>48136432
>Once people get used to the zombies why are there not whole teams of zombie hunting parties that just go out and start to retake the country?
That takes resources, planning, organization.
You build your pocket of survivors into a town, then you defend and secure sustainability of the town, maybe networking with other towns that aren't trying to kill you and take your shit.
This is where the show is now.

Then the towns might band together and secure a larger perimeter.
Meanwhile, most defences can't take a giant swarm in the first place and weather, shortages, and other diseases hit you too.

You can't just "retake the country".
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I hate the preachy commie allegory of Star Trek TOS, dumb hippies get their ship taken over constantly and have to melee everything because someone painted flowers over the phaser banks and their photon torpedo tubes are packed full of weed.

I hate TNG since Picard solves all his problems by fellating the opposition. The episode where Wesley tried to show them how fucked up their stupid chain of command was is the only one I like.

I hate every RPG that came after red box D&D, it was already too complicated and they made it worse.

Every comic book hero is either a goody goody like Superman or a bad boii like Batman, it's just Superman and Batman ad nauseum. Whenever they have a more complex character like The Hulk, people can't understand it, so they have to retcon the character into one of those two tropes (aka Mr. Fixit.) Deadpool, Wolverine, Iron Man, different costume, same mary sue wish fulfillment.

I liked Star Wars when I was a kid, but they had nothing new after Empire, they just keep telling the same damn story again and again.

Your anime isn't as good as you think it is. Even Ghost In The Shell wasn't that great. The storytelling mediums it is on suck balls for that kind of story. I just watched a stupid Katherine Heigl chick flick with my wife, and it was marginally better than every anime I've seen or read, because they got a relatable story across.

Arrested Development and The Office belong up my ass with How I Met Your Mother and The World According To Jim. Firefly was a great concept without a story, Buffy was a shitty retelling of West Side Story dragged out into years of torment, X-Files wasn't worth the bother, Bab 5 was gayer than Riker in a mankini, everything british in the last twenty years was shit. LOTR should've been 2 hrs long and The Hobbit 90 minutes.

The shittier the MMO gameplay, the better it is, because you have something to bitch about, which is the only comraderie left in the goddamn world anymore.
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>>48136626
>Maybe this was serious 200 years ago but this day and age with our understanding of how contagions spread it is not really an issue any more. Once it is clear that a zombie infestation is happening then everything will go into lock down.
Do you believe that locking your doors keeps you safe at night, too?
Do you know what really keeps you safe?
Absolutely nothing.
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>>48136817
Congratulations. You are a grown adult with opinions. Now tell us more about how you like some things, but not other things, and how subversive and cool your tastes are.
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>>48136839
>Anon posts unpopular opinions
>Provides reasoning behind them
>In a thread about unpopular opinions

>IT'S BAIT

When can we stop calling every dissenting opinion bait?
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>>48136839
Heh
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>>48136875
>When can we stop calling every dissenting opinion bait?
Anon, that wasn't a dissenting opinion, that was a shitastrophe.
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>>48136941
be nice to him, he's new.
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>>48136783
>>48136754
The Spanish Flu is a very good example of the possibility of what could happen but it was also relatively early in our modern medicine and people were attempting to save those that were infected. Once people start to show signs of being a zombie I think you will have government agencies that eliminate them with out hesitation.

People are very good at killing things especially when they do not care about how they do it. The large swarms of zombies are a threat but I am arguing that if an actual outbreak were to happen that the problem would be dealt with before it could ever reach that sort of level. If by chance it does do you really think people would hesitate to launch some sort of missile or napalm or any sort of wide area suppression weapon? I can only speak from the american perspective but at least here in the south where the walking dead takes places there are plenty of weapons, ammo, and people with basic survival knowledge to easily set up zombie proof settlement and start destroying any zombies they see. Take a look at Alaska villages and what precautions they take against polar bears. They actually are not to kill a polar bear unless it posses a direct threat to safety. Every zombie will be kill on sight.
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If you tell me that you have read Dune in full and DID NOT LIKE IT I don't know if we can be friends honestly
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>>48134225

Life of the party
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>>48137001
You can't contain an airborne-virus.
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>>48136636
I didn't know that 90% of JRPGs let me wipe out all of my opposition with no effort or real strategy.
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>>48136171
Go Watch Steins;Gate then come back and tell me the same thing.
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>>48137027
I have made many people read dune over the course of my life. Most do not finish it, and of the few who did, only one liked it.

Dune is not well suited to the modern reader, because at the end of the day it is 30-40% philosophy, with each sequel jacking the percentage up higher. Children of Dune may as well be titled "Leto tells you about shit."

And I love it, easily my second favorite sci-fi story, trumped only by Isaac asimov's Robot novels. R. Daneel my homeboy.
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>>48136053
Someone hasn't played The Last of Us.
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>>48137120
What do you think of the Lynch movie and the TV serial?
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>>48136626
>is there any air-borne virus that is spread quicker than we can contain it? Maybe this was serious 200 years ago but this day and age with our understanding of how contagions spread it is not really an issue any more.

There are things that we don't know are a problem until months after the start. Like no one really knew there was a bad new strain of Zika until six months later, because it was mild (and therefore also underreported) until the birth defects it causes caught up.

There are also things like chicken pox, which sometimes comes back years later as shingles. Chicken pox was pretty much ignored for decades, only seeing widespread vaccination until fairly recently.

If a new virus spread that only gave you a mild cold, but then occasionally turned people who had that cold into zombies a year later, there'd be weird global zombie outbreak patterns that would ignore quarantine attempts.
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>>48137120
I might get into them if I can find the audio books as reading is hard for me to do consistently and once I put the book down I have to start from the beginning as my memory is quite bad
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>>48137257
I liked the Lynch movie. It was only Dune in kind of a cursory sense, but it was entertaining. Lynch was right about having his name removed from the long version, which sucked. I have not seen the serial. The RTS games from the early 2000s are pretty dope.

>>48137276
I hope you enjoy them.
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>>48137158
>someone hasn't played a shit zombie game

Story telling was the only thing that game did OK and even then it was only an plush story but fgts will go on about Ma Plot Twist and wow dat character growth in reality it was almost like watching a chick flick without the romance
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>>48135972

It's only faux pas if you're sad enough of person to care about 4chan cool kid points. There have always been elitist oldfags who are super proud of how much time they waste on anime imageboard; nothing bad happens when you ignore them.
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>>48137120
>>48137257
Don't forget how close we came to Dune becoming one of the greatest movies of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WWu1kclNDA
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>>48134126
no, but people have given me shit for liking what's not cool in the stereotypical nerd club
>episodes 1-3 weren't that bad
>[unintelligible rage]
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>>48137359
Would have been cool, but I'd rather not watch Frank Herbert be raped desu.
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>>48136817
forgot to add that GoT proves that HBO is just The WB with more gratuitous sex mashups and fewer black people.
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>>48137480
>raped

So your definition of rape is a film with:
A soundtrack composed by Pink Floyd
A cast that contains Salvador Dali, Orson Welles, Mick Jagger, David Carradine, Gloria Swanson, and Amanda Lear
Special effects by the guy who did the special effects for Alien
Art direction provided by Moebius and H.R Giger

And directed by a man who's movies are known for being absolutely insane
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>>48137001
>Once people start to show signs of being a zombie I think you will have government agencies that eliminate them with out hesitation
ln Fear the Walking Dead they showed the fall.
You wouldn't have immediate understanding and shut down, because it takes time to determine why patients are succumbing to infections and flu, only to suddenly enter a violent fugue state.
Once zombies are attacking people, you have cell phone footage of police shooting unarmed civilians in the head.

You assume there will be "people in charge" who could say, "Oh, zombies! Put 'm down." when they don't know what zombies are, have to take time to determine the facts, and want to cover their own asses.
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>>48137727

Even with all that, some of which is not very impressive (who the fuck cares about david carradine?), I really don't see a good Dune movie coming out the other end. Perhaps a good movie with some of the trappings of dune, sure. But dune, well, it really just doesn't translate well to time constrained medium such as film.
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>>48137727
Calm down Autismo it was a joke. How about you watch the making of documentary before jumping to conclusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY
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>>48137001
>The large swarms of zombies are a threat but I am arguing that if an actual outbreak were to happen that the problem would be dealt with before it could ever reach that sort of level.

If you're talking about the airborne virus scenario, then no, once zombies appear then probably everyone is already fucked. Stuff like the common cold and the flu have a 1-2 week incubation period, during which exposed people feel just fine. Then they get sick and become contagious. Sometimes the contagious part starts a few hours before they start to feel bad, too.

In other words, there will be people inside your sheltered safe area that were already exposed.
And in the event of a real life zombie outbreak, everyone's going to think that you only turn if you've been bitten, so the first person who gets the sniffles in the shelter won't even be suspected and everyone inside will be exposed.
Then when they turn, if the remaining survivors figure out that it's a cold, that's generally when the mutual trust needed to survive breaks down. Because now everyone suspects everyone else.
First someone will suggest killing anyone who gets sick, then it'll escalate from that. The typical worst case scenario would be that one guy (or very small group) that pre-emptively tries to just kill everyone else.

>wide area suppression weapon
You mean the kind we made to kill humans with shrapnel, fire, concussion, or oxygen loss? None of which is effective against standard movie zombies?

>heavily armed southerners
Better odds on the first day, when everyone only thinks the initial zombies are the only threat.
Worse odds after more people start turning even though they weren't bitten (see above), because the breakdown of trust can get out of control a lot faster when everyone is heavily armed.
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>>48134920
My excuses are generally that Tolkien was pretty much a bible-munching old british lady, and that LotR is commie propaganda, to which my friends generally don't have an argument against since we're nearly all right-wing. When someone does sperg over how "that's just what I think and all important writers love tolkien" I show them Moorcock's text on how Tolkien's writing looks like winnie the pooh. My friends usually give up by that point, but some go on unintelligible rants, or pout in a corner.
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>>48135334
Why aren't people just allowed to have opinions anymore? Either you say nothing or you're pushing your "hot opinions like they're gospel". Maybe they just have an opinion you don't like you chucklefuck, ever think of that? Zombies are a lazy plot device to avoid having to write a proper villain with motivations and shit.

inb4 b-b-buh the real bad guys are the people!
Yeah that was a really cool and innovative idea back in 1978 when the original Dawn of the Dead came out, really innovative. 30+ years later, not so much.
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>>48138159
people getting angry at you and your use of the word crutch points to the very likely conclusion that you state your opinion as objective. it's fine to share your opinion, just don't be an asshole about it.
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>>48134323
>>48134260
Friendly reminder that FF5 was the greatest of all time
Gilgamesh was an hero who was gone before his time
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>>48135910
If you like ashens you're ok in my book. I haven't been able to enjoy MtG since New Phyrexia.
>hate star wars
>don't intend to watch firefly
>hate lotr
>hate star trek
>hate marvel in general
>hate dc in general
>hate greek mythology
>Am getting sick of norse too
>last good zombie movie was '28 weeks later'
>only enjoy chinese cartoons based on old franchises, and pré-90's fantasy
i hope the nerd fad fades out soon.
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>>48137980
>In other words, there will be people inside your sheltered safe area that were already exposed.
Fun spoiler about the Walking Dead: Everyone is infected. Everyone turns when they die. Everyone is a potential zombie time bomb.
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>>48138108
Not saying Tolkien isn't a flawed writer, but I'd kick you in the nuts just cause you sound like you deserve it.
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>>48134786
Mah fucking nigga V was amazing
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>>48138250
Where in the fuck has anyone in this entire thread ever implied that their opinions were objective? Point to it, I'm serious. All I'm seeing is people posting their obviously subjective opinions (what other kind is there?) and then overly sensitive, easily triggered morons like you sperging out at them because you don't like their opinion. Just because someone holds an opinion you don't like doesn't make them a bad person, I think you might actually have autism.
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>>48138250
This
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>>48136171
to be fair, in all movie theathers I passed in front of for the last couple of years, the only movies featured weren't even as different from each other as the mainstream anime that were the rage at the respective times. It was all like, child flick, melodramatic flick, cape movie, crappy comedy. Homogeneous masses of tasteless media can be found everywhere, and to find good ones you have to look just as hard, be it movies, animes, books, tv series, music, tabletops or whatever skub you like.
You just don't know how to look for good anime as much as you know how to look for good {insert favorite media}.
It is really ridiculous how many magical-school harem animes we've been getting though. Those must print money because there's like 3 big ones every 3 months.
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>>48138343
you seem upset. I'm sure that the reason all those people get angry at you when you share your opinion in meatspace is because they are too sensitive and not because you're social skills are lacking the ability to state your opinion in non-confrontational manner.
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>>48138343
>Where in the fuck has anyone in this entire thread ever implied that their opinions were objective? Point to it, I'm serious.

>>48135048
>I always tell people that zombies are just a crutch to avoid writing an antagonist
Subtle nuance of language here:
"I always tell people x are y." is different from "I always tell people I think x are y."
If you make an assertion of a fact, you are not stating an opinion, you are making an assertion.
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>>48136153
Tanks beating mechs
Bitch what kind of tank do you have or what shit mechs are you facing I want to know cause I will take a Lance of assault mechs to end you with lasers and Gauss weapons and long Tom you, I will have you know I am the greatest mechwarrior in the whole innersphere and have personally stopped whole stars of mechs and single handedly took on clan ghost bear. Say what you said to my face I will end you. I'll do it in an elemental to spite you, you have called on the wraith of Steiner and are FUCKING DEAD KIDDO
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>>48136405
there is a widely recognized spectrum that goes form real-robot to super-robot when talking about giant humanoid machines. Power of friendship, giant drills, rocket punches, chest beams and all other practically unreasonable weaponry and functions push a mecha towards super, while being a two-legged tank, using weaponry that looks sensible, using military tactics in combat and being military in general pushes it towards real. You'd probably like real-robot media, it's got things like hauling combustible, military training drills, limbs falling apart, realoading times mattering in battle and maintenance/resource juggling.
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>>48137120
Have you read "Anathem" by Neal Stephenson? It's about highly educated math/philosophy/science-monks who live away from society and are then recalled into it for some mysterious reason. The philosophy picks up where Dune stops and keeps jacking it up exponentially as the chapters go, recalling everything from before in the book.
It is also cool that it's set in not!earth, and they had their own philosophers and mathematicians that discovered everything we did but with different names.
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>>48138332
You wouldn't, I'm huge.
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>>48138637
Like the Trump wall?
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>>48134126
Only my normie cousins who say things like weed causes more cancer than cigarettes and every game besides sports games and COD shouldnt be played after 12. He said he played NHL enough that he was more of a gamer than me and I've won money at Smash locals.
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>>48138485
>being aligned with or even liking Steiner
>siggydiggy
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>>48138485
Please, and I am honestly asking here, explain the tactical advantage of bipedal design.
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>>48138432
That's what I mean. It's not exclusive to anime it just seems far more prevalent there. Most movies do have limited genre selections and are shit but at least half try to tell a little different story, no matter how bland. I think it just may be the Japanese culture influences that throw me off of some of them.

For instance, in my experience Japan has a very difficult time doing strong female characters. Sometimes you get some gems like Gunsmith Cats, Kill La Kill, or (vidya wise) Samus Aran. However in many cases (such as the case with Samus) strong female leads later down the road often get broken down to helpless mewling characters subservient to some male figure. Metroid Other M is a shining example. From what I've read regarding this phenomenon is its bringing the character more towards the idealised man/woman relationship in Japan. That even strong females still become, even NEED, to be submissive to a man. Even yuri themed content does this too where being a lesbian is "just a phase" until the right man (read: wet, flat, self-insertable guy) comes along.

There are some great anime/manga out there for sure and I enjoy several. But the media overwhelmingly caters to what is apparently either adolescents or NEET's that throw a (sometimes literal) shitfit if their waifu develops any kind of character relationship/development that may alienate their self-insert fantasies. So it seems to tie the hands of writers when they try to develop characters or give them realistic interactions as the market seems to have a virtual stranglehold on what can be done creatively.

I just don't see this phenomenon nearly as much with western media.
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>>48134126
Why? SJW wars is terrible.
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>>48138757
Depends on the setting. Also, what is the tactical advantage of anything that makes into most mainstream media short from a nuke.
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>>48138108
>LotR is commie propaganda

LotR may be trash, but at least have a goddamn idea what you're talking about. Vague humanitarianism with a religious bent is a far cry from the horror of 'scientific communism'.
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>>48138775
> That even strong females still become, even NEED, to be submissive to a man.

> implying this is bad
Look at the west and see what decades of giving women far too much power has done. In the work place, they do nothing but bicker, badmouth people behind their backs, and sabotage each other in an endless contest to be at the top of some imagined pecking order. In the voting booth, they do nothing but vote for the one who will give them the most free stuff so that the government can take over the role of the breadwinner and banish the man from the household. And in every single-parent household, we see what comes of that. They have raised an entire generation of thugs and moochers who do nothing but piss on the country that previous generations fought and died for.
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>>48134932
The setting for the prequels is different but not better imo. The prequel setting is more traditional scifi while the original trilogy setting is a blend of western and scifi. The OT takes place on the frontier of the galaxy. The prequels take place at the political heart of it.
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>>48138711
I only wish anon, I only wish
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>>48138868
oh go fuck yourself
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>>48138637
Your internet hugeness is irrelevant.
The reality is that I am seldom prone to violence, and if I did lose control and attack you, I'd likely only cut off your air supply until I came to my senses and released you.
What would likely happen is that I would reduce your polarized idiocy to the obvious witless flailings they are, laugh at you, and you would either act as the aggressor and I would evade, or you would prove you are as equally gutless.
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>>48138757
You can go through water with heat sinks in your legs.
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>>48138838
> humanitarianism
It's environmentalist trash. That's the exact opposite of humanitarianism. Their ilk want to drag all of humanity back into the stone age in the name of their "mother earth" bullshit. Their goal is a vast increase in human suffering just so that they can feel smug and superior.
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>>48138838
"industrialized capitalism is full of nazi orcs, small agricultural hobbit societies are the ultimate utopia" seems pretty anarcho/commie to me.
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>>48136053
>>48136175
>>48136300
theres a fairly decent cracked article that addresses pretty well that zombies really shouldn't be a threat whatsoever if you live in the real world
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

i have yet to see a work of fiction that addresses these things instead of ignores them

though, magical zombies are different thing totally - theyre magical, so i guess shit doesnt need to make sense
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>>48138775
>I just don't see this phenomenon nearly as much with western media
It's more difficult to see when you're immersed in the culture, but you've got me wondering what I'm missing about the west now.
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>>48138900
>This much edge
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>>48138900
Said like only an edgelord with a fedora could. Would you be a hologram if i tried to slice you in half with my superior katana folded a thousand times?
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>>48138775
I hate the mewling japanese schoolgirl as much as the next guy, but i prefer it to the cast of thr new ghostbusters. Japanese media is mostly rid of fem/racial/lgbt pandering, and self insertion highschool popularity fantasies are a small price to pay.
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>>48135243
I just don't feel like watching anime anymore. Cowboy Bepop was great and so was Samurai Champloo, but the other ones I was told were good are filled with cringeworthy tropes. There are other media that give me good entertainment without having to weed out tons of shit, before finding that one rare good one.
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I hate zombies because they never ever make sense

How are these zombies moving? How are their bodies not completely destroyed after a week or two of all biological functions shutting down? How are the zombies not being totally destroyed in the hot or cold months? How are the zombies getting energy?

Humans don't die just because fate or dumb shit. People die because their biological systems have stopped functioning. If that body is somehow reanimated it should make sense how its able to move and eat shit and turn the shit it eats into energy and be able to repair itself. Zombies never actually address how the reanimated bodies are able to function with the extreme damage caused to vital systems. We need to eat and sleep and whatnot for good reasons.

The walking dead is one of the worst offenders, the zombies function simply because they're powered by the plot. And the series that shows how to zombie apocalypse came to happen is pure wank.
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>>48138914
>>48138930
Oh dear, it seems /pol/ is leaking again.
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>>48136175
How come the entire world isn't completely destroyed by pre-existing air born disease?

Oh, that's right, we live in the real world. People know how to handle this shit.
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>>48139095
What exactly is cringeworthy to you?
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>>48139148
> repeating the /pol/ is a containment board meme

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>>48139162
but it is
that was the express purpose why it was made

hell, a good portion of the boards on this site are containment boards
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>>48139115
The only time it makes sense is magic or divine apocalypse
But then, either you become a wizard and you're golden, or you become a good follower of the lord and you're golden
Well, you do have to learn magic and pick the good lord
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>>48139191
I agree, magic is the only time it makes sense.

Which suspiciously few zombie apocalypse films use
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>>48139190
No, /pol/ is just the politics board, that's all. /pol/ topics are a regular part of practically every board and the only people who have a problem with it are you leftists. So fuck off, you're the one making it a problem here.
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>>48134260
I always feel weird in Final Fantasy discussions because I've always liked FF9 the most, and I've found I always tend to get dismissed by my friends when I bring that up with a "yeah that one was good/alright but not as memorable as (6/7/8/10)"
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>>48139225
leftest? thats a funny one
the stated purpose of making /pol/ was to stop all the threads that now make up /po/ from clogging up every other board
i dont know if you were on the site before /pol/ was made, but it was horrible
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>>48139225
Sorry buddy, but you've just got it wrong. Before /pol/ was made, /b/ was clogged full of shitty political discussions and faggots liked to clog up every board turning everything into a political discussion
You couldn't look at the front page of /a/ without seeing 3 threads on how x anime was a cover for commie or fascist propaganda
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>>48139237
I was here. It was bad because people were protesting against the leftist censorship that deleted /new/. Again, the problem was created by you leftists.
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>>48138903
That... Is actually not bad. Although additional legs would be more stable.
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>>48139228
I feel you. My favorite is the 9 and everytime everyone agree that it's good but that X is somehow better
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>>48139275
you have no idea what you're talking about
/pol/ was meant to contain both the whiny feminists and the retarded nazis on this site, and it mostly works
/sp/, /mlp/, fuck, any board on this site made after 2006 is a containment board
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I wouldn't go to /pol/ or one of the porn boards for discussion of those topics - you can't even get porn discussion on the porn boards because as moot put it, people just go there to masturbate and leave.

But the thing about discussing porn and politics on interest pages like /tg/, /v/, or /co/ is that you are discussing it with people who are like minded and sharing a common interest in the first place.

It's bad when it becomes the norm. But every now and then it's quite interesting.
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>>48139329
people usually go to interest boards to get away from the /pol/ types

nevermind that /pol/ is generally filled with people of highschool age arguing with each other to death
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>>48139115
The virus makes the brain create electricity because reasons.
Now if electricity won't fend off bacteria to the point of keeping the body moving, you got a serious point.
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>>48139095
>I just don't feel like watching dvds anymore. Cowboy Bepop was great and so was Samurai Champloo, but the other ones I was told were good are filled with cringeworthy tropes. There are other media that give me good entertainment without having to weed out tons of shit, before finding that one rare good one.
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>>48139374
How does the virus repair damage tissue? How does the virus stop the tissue from freezing? How does the virus stop other microbes from wrecking shit? How does the virus generate enough energy for the muscles to work? How does the virus stop the bodies from exploding in the sun? How does the virus prevent any of the other billion things that happen when a human body no longer has a functioning immune system, circulatory system, nervous system, or any system? how does the virus stop any of the things that happen to a brain dead person wandering around?

it simply makes no sense unless its magical and can ignore physics and biology
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>>48139374
another thing, the bacteria in a LIVING persons body will destroy the body unless the appropriate systems are working

the bacteria in your stomach can make a body literally EXPLODE in the warmer months
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>>48139151
Because airborne viruses with a lethality rate of the zombie virus are so far fictional?
Never mind. Nighty night. Sleep snug in your safe little jammies.
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I'm black so I suppose folks give me a free pass and are generally surprised I'm playing chip tunes instead of the local rap station. What I do get is folks asking me what's up about this and that. Nephew was trying to talk to me about Deadpool, I tell him, it's a little like the origin story and a little different. I get the feeling he was trying to connect by being outraged that it was slightly different. Then there's folks that suggest shit to me. I like robots, friend thinks I'll like Interstellar because there's a robot. It's a fucking rolling bunch of cubes. I did end up liking the fucking piece of shit, but I got a thing for giant robots and psuedo modern shit with all the hydraulics and motors shifting. I want to see more Chappy. Most of my nerd crew interactions consist of beating each other with foam swords and making recommendations of cool shows.
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>>48135713
Hey, you like that Redgrin Grumboldt reference I just made, huh? Thought that was funny? Well I made it up. You ass kissers really are your father's children.
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>>48139410
Making dead bodies move really isn't difficult. And the vast majority of other problems they would have don't matter. Because they are already dead.
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>>48139448
At least my father thought I was worth sticking around for.
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>>48139432
>>48139410
Truth.
All zombies should have exploded guys.

Honestly, you're right and I prefer 30 Days style infected to zombies.
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>>48139467
Pity he was so very wrong.
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>>48139459
Yes, it is. How are you moving the limbs? Are you using the muscles? Well the muscles need energy to move, and they need to be constantly repaired if they're going to continue moving. Which requires all the systems in the body functioning.

Are they moving because somehow the zombie stuff is creating an alternate way of moving? Okay, how is it getting that energy? The zombie eating stuff? How is it digesting the mass it eats? Etc...

And just because something is dead doesnt mean it violates the laws of physics. How will the zombie be able to walk after a few days if its not healing? the legs will just fall apart. How come the zombie hasnt exploded or been rendered totally immobile if its dead?

HOW ARE THE GODDAMN ZOMBIES MOVING? People and animals and microbes can move because we have systems that create energy and allow it to be workable! Zombies have none of these things! Just because its a virus doesn't mean it can move without energy.

There are the million billion questions that you need to ask about zombies, ZOMBIES WOULD NOT WORK ASK DESCRIBED EVER, unless they are magic
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>>48139021
>>48139013
There is no real way to express that sentiment without sounding like an edgelord.
Doesn't change the fact that every fight I've ever been in ended that way.
Except I just remembered one where I threw a guy That had just tackled me off me and walked away.
I also once told tg how I won monkey in the middle and they called me edgy.
Big whoop.
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>>48139522
Also, how are the zombies fighting off other microbes? How are they moving limbs that are only connected by bone? How are they controlling rotten pieces of their body?

They don't make any sense. The only ones that make any sense are the mad cow type ones, and those ones don't make sense for other reasons.

The only zombies that could possibly be zombie Apocalypse tier are magical ones, because they can ignore the laws of physics
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>>48139522
Quick question, are you autistic? That would explain the problems you are having. You're over analyzing, first of all, second of all, you miss basic biology in that brain death does not explicitly mean the rest of the body ceases function.
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>>48139572
>How are they moving limbs that are only connected by bone?
Never seen that, I would rage so hard.
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>>48139522
The virus makes the brain create electricity because reasons.
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>>48139599
Brain death doesn't, but most zombies aren't just brain dead. They're dead in other ways too. Usually, the only ones that are dead are the mad-cow type zombies.

I'm not over-analyzing anything, I'm simply pointing out the fact, that as presented, 99% of zombies apocalypses could not happen.
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>>48139228
Try really liking FF8. People freak out about the gunblade thing and Squall being a jerk.

>>48135427
Are you the guy I was talking to about DS9 & B5 yesterday? Lol.
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>>48134126
All the time.

"I didn't like D2, I felt like it shat on D1's legacy."
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"Final Fantasy VI is where the series started a downward slide in quality."
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"Vanilla WoW was an awful game that I never had fun playing. It was a casual Everquest and Everquest was never fun."
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT CASUAL TEDIUM IS HARDCORE
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>>48139648
Cool, it makes brain electricity.

What about the rest of the body? What about the rest of the problems a zombie faces, that our incredibly complex and finely tuned systems handle when we're alive, but stop working irrevocably shortly after we're dead?
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Someone who knows more about this than me answer this question: How long can a dead body be animated with just electricity without rotting to pieces in the open environment?
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>>48139522
Nanomachines, son.
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>>48139651
*that are only brain dead
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>>48139653
Nope, but hi.
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>>48139672
The brain works in partitions. All you have to do is get rid of those parts.

That being said, the durability of zombies is ridiculous.

So you have some sort of parasite with an incubation period that grows inside of them and reinforces them or some shit.

Fuck, boyo, most zombie apocalypses have scientists working on that shit in the background and cover the difficulties of the "Everyman" average person dealing with the zombie apocalypse, not a crack squad of scientists with a secure lab running tests on them and shit.

Seriously, consider getting tested for autism.
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>>48134126
>I don't like MCU
>I find Captain America and Ironman completely unrelatable
>no, it's not because I'm a DC fanboy, the only DC character I like at all is Batman
>everyone acts like I punched a baby in the dick
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>>48139681
A few hours, if its cold.

>>48139682
What's powering these nano-machines? What's directing them? Nano-machines don't break the laws of physics either, they're just small, they need energy, and if they're gonna do anything than do one task over and over there must be a computer somewhere giving them directions - you can'y build a functioning computer on a nano-scale without quantum tunneling making it unusable.
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>>48139566
>"I'm a big guy 4u that excuses the way I carry myself"

Nah, m8. It's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying it. I've hospitalized several people, I'm not acting like that makes me hard as fucking nails, though. And claiming that someone on the internet you have never met isn't that guy you'll meet that you simply should not have fucked with is how you meet said person. Be humble. You're not impressive. You're obviously not whatever facade you proclaim to be. But who am I kidding? Fuck you, faggot, I'll gut you and leave you pissing in a bag the rest of your life.
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>>48139672
1. The brain MAKES electricity to power muscles.
2. How many of those systems are needed to move a dead body around?
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>>48134126
Possibly. When someone explains their fandom to me I listen. If they start giving me shit I ignore them.
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>>48139726
1. The brain makes electricity to TELL muscles what to do, not power them
2. Everything except the parts of the brain used for conscious though, at least if you want to move it for more than a few hours

>>48139706
I'm not autistic - I'm only asking these questions to point out, that as described, no zombie apocalypse is possible in the real world.

Sure, out of a brain you only need the brain stem to have a body function, but to have a body function for more than a few hours, you need the rest of a bodies systems sans the grey matter working as well. And a defining characteristic of dead things is, they died because those systems can no longer function.
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>>48139715
Sunlight, duh. That's why the zombies aren't active at night.

> you can'y build a functioning computer on a nano-scale without quantum tunneling making it unusable.

I bet you're super fun at parties. Probably not involved in any sort of technological field except at a very basic level either, otherwise you'd be more focused on possible ways to do things instead of using the vaguest of generalized concepts to nay-say zombies and shit.
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>>48139777
I see, what's happening here is that we're using different definitions of "dead".

I highly recommend you google the term "Philosophical zombie".
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>>48139665
>"I didn't like D2, I felt like it shat on D1's legacy."
Thank you. I am no longer alone.
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>>48139777
> Zombie apocalypse isn't possible IRL

Nigga, are you unfamiliar with the concept of "fiction" that the zombie apocalypse falls into?

Or that our definition of "death" can also apply to death of the self or the consciousness, which is why they have the definition of "brain death" to terminate life support for people who are not coming back but still have all their bodies systems working?

Are you REALLY SURE you aren't autistic? I mean, like, have you been tested? Because you're not really making a case against that here. Especially the part where you take an accusation of being autistic seriously on the internet, especially on 4chan.
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>>48139815
. . . . Diablo?

Because I'm with you on that. It just became spamming & auctioning. Like a 2D borderlands with cancer.
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>>48139826
Hey I wasn't accusing the guy, I just wanted to know if I was arguing with a brick wall.
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>>48139836
Yeah Diablo. 1 was great. 2 was... Not as good. 3, of course, is horrible.
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>>48139777
>1. The brain makes electricity to TELL muscles what to do, not power them
Maybe in a non-virus brain. Punk-ads weak shit brains.
>2. Everything except the parts of the brain used for conscious though, at least if you want to move it for more than a few hours
What systems specifically are needed to keep a body physically moving?
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>>48139783
Photosynthesis does not generate enough energy to allow large things to move.
>>48139826
>>48139797
I'm completely aware of brain death and philosophical zombies, and that's not what I'm talking about - the brain dead ones are usually the mad cow type zombies, which usually don't make sense for other reasons, or brain dead does not apply to the situation (walking dead ETC)

And I have never seen philosophical zombies appear in fiction other then lame manic pixie dream girls referencing them

>I bet you're super fun at parties...etc
>autism accusations

Okay, so I say I don't like zombies for X reason, then you guys press me on the issue.
I give more reasons and the logic behind them, then you guys insult me

I was under the impression this was a good natured discussion about some dumb hypothetical situation, not something you guys would get offended enough to insult me...
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>>48139842
I was accusing the guy, because he seems to be unaware of the concept of "suspension of disbelief" where you give a general premise and handwave how the virus/machines/alien mind control WHATEVER handle the details.

This nigga is asking me to reproduce the situation with the materials on hand with blueprints for how that shit would work.

That, and he's trying to use one definition of "death" to naysay anything else.

Dude is totally a brick wall.
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>>48139715
>A few hours, if its cold.
So, say, a steady electric current wouldn't help keep the body twitching longer than that?
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>>48139900
I wake up and insult you for breakfast because I can.

Don't be such a pussy.

> I'm completely aware of brain death and philosophical zombies,

> And I have never seen philosophical zombies appear in fiction other then lame manic pixie dream girls referencing them

So, what you're telling me is that you aren't actually aware of Philisophical zombies?

> A philosophical zombie or p-zombie in the philosophy of mind and perception is a hypothetical being that is indistinguishable from a normal human being except in that it lacks conscious experience, qualia, or sentience.

It's a philosophical theory you twat, not a meme.

Well, I mean technically it's a meme, but not in the TVTropes sense you appear to be referencing it as.

Seriously, a quick look at the term on Wikipedia would have told you this.

You deserve every sling and arrow cast against you, you . . . you fucking autist. That's the only way I can explain how you're structuring your arguments here.
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>>48139911
I'm not doing any of that. I know what suspension of disbelief if, I suspend my disbelief all the time.

I just think zombies are tired and overdone, and don't like them - thats what this thread is about, shit you don't like

I'm only mentioning the problems with real life because some other anon mentioned shit about it earlier, and it went back and forth.

And I'm not "trying to us one definition of death", i mentioned brain dead zombies before. The zombies in walking dead and the like are clearly not just brain dead.

You can insult me all you want, but it doesn't make me autist, it just makes you retarded.

>>48139964
I know exactly what a philosophical zombie is, and that's clearly not what's being discussed
Let me clear the air. I don't like zombies -they're stupid. As an added benefit, but not the reason I dislike them, almost every zombie apocalypse as described is retarded to anyone who's passed a high school biology class. I know you're suppose to suspend your disbelief, but I don't because the zombie shtick is tired, overdone, and gay. Someone earlier mentioned the feasibility of zombies, and no, they are not feasible as described in 99% of scenarios. The only ones that are feasible are the magic ones
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>>48139410
How about the very worst of it all: a lot of the time zombies are shown not have to breath. Anyone who did well in high school bio know the issue with humans not having to breah, keeping themselves under water for long periods, and not having machines to help with it.

Cells doing work without oxygen creates lactic acid. It is the reason why people get sore from working out. It can do far more then making you sore if you are not breathing for a long period of time.
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>>48139939
No. It would destroy it, and even if it's at a low enough level not to destroy it, the muscles and whatnot would degrade on their own
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>>48140045
Yeah, they never make sense.

It's hard to illustrate that a dead body is dead for a reason - the systems necessary to keep it alive no longer function. Thats why it no longer moves.

Sure, if it's just brain dead it can move, but that's not really what is going on in most zombie stories. They tend to show zombies that are quite obviously dead for other reasons, and should not be able to move around
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>>48139725
I think you need to see the guy I was replying too, you fool.
>>48138637
>You wouldn't, I'm huge.
Here you see him inflating himself.
I am not huge, but I have throttled some idiots.

>>48138108
>My excuses are generally that Tolkien was pretty much a bible-munching old british lady
Here he asserts his manliness over Tolkien
>and that LotR is commie propaganda
(because commies are bad and the British are notably communist, of course)
>to which my friends generally don't have an argument against
Here he asserts his dominance over his own friends
WE'RE DEALING WITH A REAL ALPHA MALE NOW!
>When someone does sperg over how "that's just what I think and all important writers love tolkien" I show them Moorcock's text on how Tolkien's writing looks like winnie the pooh.
When intelligent thought is required, he knows just who can do his thinking for him!
>My friends usually give up by that point
LOL SOOOOOO ALPHA!
>but some go on unintelligible rants, or pout in a corner.
Pussy nerds. Amirite?
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>>48139856
I missed all the auction house bullshit, but I really enjoyed D2. I felt it kept the tone of the original game while expanding the world immensely. And vastly improving every aspect of the game mechanics.

D3 has you playing a Solar Exalted apparently, and I did not care for that in a theme that's about desperate struggles against an inevitable decline into the clutches of Evil.
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>>48139826
Hey douchelord, that guy mentioned braindead a while back, it's pretty clear what he's referring to when he says dead.

It's so annoying when autists start to get pedantic and start nitpicking words and definitions.
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>>48140088
Wew, you can't strawman any harder than this. We've reached new heights of self-consciousness here.
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>>48140088
Tolkien was no friend of communism.

The books actually have an anti-communist slant, as mordor and the like quite resemble worker states.

If anything, Tolkien was anti-industry, which very very few communists at the time would've had leanings towards.
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>>48140091
>And vastly improving every aspect of the game mechanics.
Absolutely not. It made it a 'better' hack & slash, but killed the dungeon crawling aspect that D1 nailed and fellated loot and character building until the point where I was disgusted with the game.
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>>48134202
When I was a kid the first episode of starwars I saw was episode 1, and being a kid I loved it. I think I was about 9 or 10. Thought the character were cool, the setting was cool, and I couldn't give two shits about the story and JarJar really didn't bother me at all. I saw the rest of the movies in chronological order. I even saw 3 in theaters.

Being a kid and caring more about special effects and action then anything else, I was dissapointed by episodes 4-6. Then in middle school whever starwars came up I would always say I liked the prequals better than the originals and people would get incredibly mad at me, I even lost a friend over it. One time I was bullied and name called almost to tears because of it. I really didn't understand why people got so mad at me. All I remember is feeling like shit simply because my opinion was "wrong."

Anyway now I fucking hate star wars and whenever I hear people talk about it it bothers me a bit. Sometimes I tell hardcore fans that episode 1 is my favorite just to get them mad. Really I hate them all, the plot is shit and its slow and boring and the effects are mostly shit too by todays standards. I couldn't even enjoy them if I wanted to I have so many bad memories associated with the series. In fact, episode 1 is the only episode I have any fond memories of so I guess it really is my favorite.

Fuck Star Wars.

/rant
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>>48137318
Alternatively, you're just too brain-dead to appreciate it.
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>>48135910
>>48138277

What DO you like?
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>>48140120
WTF are you talking about?
>>48139725
>>"I'm a big guy 4u that excuses the way I carry myself"
This literally descibes the guy I was replying to.
If you're saying that you're the same guy, you really need to see someone.
Get therapy.
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>>48140180
>projecting this hard

>muh enemies surround me
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>>48140139
He was anti-unlimited industrialism. The transformation of Isengard into a warforge reflects his feelings about all the smokestacks he saw popping up around the English countryside. Tolkien didn't hate what we gained through technology, he was mourning what people were apparently throwing away without a second thought.

>>48140151
Ehh, I think that's just a matter of pacing. Diablo 1 is a lot more claustrophobic, for sure. But if D2 had just been more of that it wouldn't have been as well-received as it was.
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>>48140157
>Why people need to see the Star Wars movies starting with A New Hope first: the post
My sympathies anon
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I hate Star Wars and I don't consider it science fiction.

Mind you - I don't hate it because it's not science fiction, I hate it because the plot, acting, setting, and themes are all garbage. Well basically everything about it is garbage. But I don't hate it because of it's genre
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>>48140210
It's not about the claustrophobia. It's about having a loot system without massive gear checks where it's much easier to get good gear, not having a character build system that determined which gimmick you were going to abuse all game long that fucked you in the ass if you picked wrong, and not having a stat system where doing anything other than pumping VIT after getting the minimums for equipment is bad.
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>>48140198
I suggest I'm dealing with one poster
Response suggests I see enemies all around me.

Seriously, consider therapy.
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>>48140210
If you notice in the final chapter, what happens to the shire isn't bad just because they're industrializing, it's because they're only industrializing to destroy the shire
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>ITT: Hipsters
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This might actually be a pretty common opinion, I just haven't had the luck to meet people of the same mind IRL: I really just can't give a single shit about Game of Thrones. Half the characters I've been shown videos or been told anecdotes about are bog-standard, and the other half are people that I have complete, almost active disinterest in learning how they bumble through their horseshit.

I'm not gonna act like the stuff I enjoy is any better, really, I just don't happen to resonate with how the individual parts of GoT lock together into its whole shape. But god damn, is it ever irritating to be told how much I would/should 'like' GoT because I'm that 'guy who likes fiction'.
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>>48140237
>lolurjustcrazy

>he says as he previously states his inability to control himself in countless situations

>not projecting
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>>48139893
>What systems specifically are needed to keep a body physically moving?
Blood needs to flow to keep the muscles supplied with sugar, oxygen and other nutrients, otherwise they simply cannot function.

The nervous system is needed to tell the muscles what to do, and to keep track of what they're doing through the various senses. Nerves also need nutritious blood to survive and function.

The brain is needed to coordinate all the signals from the nervous system, managing sensory input and muscular output to an incredible degree of fidelity, all in the name of pursuing the organism's higher goals. It also requires a blood supply.

The lungs need to be functional in order to keep the body stocked with oxygen, and to expel carbon dioxide exhaust. They need blood too.

The heart needs to beat to keep all that blood pumping around the body, and also requires blood itself to function healthily.

The body can't conjure the blood's sugars and nutrients out of thin air. They have to come from outside sources, namely food. So the body needs a digestive tract too, which has its own blood needs.

The body also needs systems to filter out poisons and waste products from the blood supply, lest they build up and damage the muscles, organs and/or nervous system. This is what the liver and kidneys do, and they also require blood.

And all those poisons and waste products, once filtered, need to be expelled from the body. So the body needs a bladder and colon, where waste can be stored until an opportunity for expulsion arises. These things also need blood.

The human body is an immensely complex machine, and there are millions of things that can cause it to break down. Undead of any kind make zero fucking sense from any realistic point of view, so arguing that they'd naturally behave one way or the other based on ~logic~ is patently absurd.
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>>48140267
Don't forget about the immune system!

A body needs all it's systems in working order to function for an extended period of time.

Hence why only magic zombies make sense.
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>>48140263
>>lolurjustcrazy
Listen, therapy doesn't mean you're crazy. And if you're worried about your friends who you so, really, wish to dominate, don't worry. They don't need to know.
And even if they did, just because you receive therapy doesn't mean you're any less masculine.

>>he says as he previously states his inability to control himself in countless situations
7 or 8 fights are hardly countless, and I haven't fought anyone in a decade.

Now, If you can refute any of the observations I made here >>48140088

Then I will be happy to accept your intelligent reply.
Certainly someone capable of denouncing an author like Tolkien is capable of something like that, isn't he?
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>>48140359
most people have been a few fights in their lifetime

rarely do fights occur due to a lack of self control
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>>48140359
>I'd likely only cut off your air supply until I came to my senses and released you.

>came to my senses

Bruh, u fuckin' psycho.

Also a fucking retard. Not the same guy.
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