did blizzard invent this type of weapon and why
I know a character in soul caliber had a circle style weapon, so maybe not? Most of my dnd groups would call them a glaive.
Yes, maybe? iirc was based on some ancient Chinese weapon. Blizz saw it, then said "yeah lets make it bigger, shinier and yet a bit darker at the same time. And let's add sharp things on it",then again maybe not
>>48086722
That's just another variation on the theme of chackram.
I guess they look exotic and 'cool', and they needed something unique for a race that had to look as alien from a typical western-styled human civilization as possible.
>>48086722
Isn't that just a chakram?
>>48086774
I believe the correct technical term is "Throwing anus"
well, I suppose it would hurt to be hit with. It seems somewhat ineffective though, but then again Maiev is supposed to be like one of the most badass night elves of all time...
>>48086722
>did blizzard invent this type of weapon
no having a circle with sharp things on it has been invented since ancient times
>and why
Because they thought it looks cool.they were wrong[/spoil
>>48086722
This is completely idiotic. There's no way to defend yourself against someone thrusting at you short of somehow catching the sword inside the chakram and then pulling it so far away from your body that the next attack launched at you would hit 100% of the time.
>>48086829
>those toenails
night elves need more natural weapons
>>48086865
calm your rage kind sir, nobody argued that it is unpractical as fuck
>>48086865
well you couldbat it away holding the glaive vertically
At least in Chinese martial arts, it was the sun and moon wheels.
Pretty muxh, all these crazy weapons in real history that are incredibly impractical are for one reason :
>China is a land of war since forever
>once you retire or there's a lul in wartime, you usually became a monk if you didn't marry
>intense focus of a monk with war knowledge of a soldier
>you literally get bored and start to say "hey, want to know what would be a cool weapon?"
>weird ass shit comes forth
>guys have nothing to do but pray and practice
>outsiders come in, see monk really good with insane nonsensical weapon
>don't know he probably trained for 8 years to be good with it
That's how alot of Chinese weapons came to being. Some of it looks crazy. Google it sometime
>>48086865
Chakram were primarily meant as throwing weapons. They could be used in close combat, but that was kind of last ditch.
>>48086900
so they're pre internet fa/tg/uys? slash /k/?
>>48086940
Pretty much.
>>48086865
Or you could just, you know, parry with it like literally any other weapon??
>>48086819at a push you could fight with the sheaththe Glamazons don't follow fashion- they set traps for it and wear its shiny pelt
>>48086968
you have no idea what "parrying" actually consists of, do you?
Here's a hint: it's more than just putting your weapon in the path of an incoming weapon.
>>48086745
>Most of my dnd groups would call them a glaive.
a glaive is a polearm
i'm guessing your group watched kull as kids in the 80s
>>48086865
>There's no way to defend yourself against someone thrusting at you short of somehow catching the sword inside the chakram and then pulling it so far away from your body that the next attack launched at you would hit 100% of the time.
or you could just murder them because you're one of the most powerful warriors in the known world
>>48087239
>implying any of them were alive in the 80s
>>48087167
Yes, it's doing that and then hitting the other weapon away.
It doesn't really matter how you do it. The only aim is to make the other sharp thing not cut you.
>>48087167
>>48087378
Actually, it's just taking a swing at the other guy. Geometry says both of your weapons have to be in the same place to hurt the other person, so they meet in the middle and you go from there.
They've been in video games for a while now.
>>48087378
>It doesn't really matter how you do it
Yes it does you fucking moron. If you don't set yourself up for a counter hit or position their weapon in such a way that they can't follow up with a backswing or otherwise significantly improve your position then you're going to fucking die.
>>48087378
>>48087410
You both have never used medieval weaponry in combat have you?
>>48087610
How many sword fights have you been in where you killed the person opposite of you, senpai?
>>48087662
I have, actually. I do HEMA longsword. All of the period fencing manuals show plays starting from the crossing. The crossing happens when two strikes meet in the middle. This is pretty basic stuff. I take it you've never practiced with medieval weapons short of maybe playing with sticks when you were a kid?
>>48086722
>blizzard
>invent
>>48086722
That's actually a type of chinese paired weapon known as Wheel of Wind and Fire. It is basically a melee spiked chakram.
>>48087691
This goes only for european weapons, you know. Other countries and different fencing styles exist as well.
>>48088411
This. Its mostly ceremonial.
>>48088463
Do your reseaches; handheld weapons of circular shape like deer horn blades and spiked wheels have been in use in several taoist martial traditions; variations include a circular blade with a longer blade on each side of the handle and a circular blade with three pointed triangular protrusion. They are associated with one of the chinese immortals and as such where more popular in "soft" martial art styles. Of course they are not meant for war, but this can be said for a lot of weapons.
>>48088483
>Of course they are not meant for war
Meaning ceremonial
>>48088502
You understand very little of chinese history, right? There have been many periods in which war weapons were forbidden to all but soldiers; as such a lot of the weird weapons are have used by civilians of the time, like the eight-sided club which is a repurposed steel ruler. Those in particular though were mostly used for personal defense by taoist monks and the like.
>>48088502
The reason they look weird is because in Chinese history, the letter of the law meant more than the intent of the law, so bizzare and unusual weapons could be carried with impunity. You can say those are ceremonial weapons, and you would be right, but that did not make them any less deadly or fatal in the hands of an expert than a ceremonial knife with sharp edges would be. The important thing is that they could not be classified as a SWORD, SPEAR, AXE, or POLEARM that was a soldier's weapon until the user was arrested and a judgement made by an actual official, often with referendums and research (and occasional bribes) to determine what kind of weapon it was officially, and then the offender could/could not be sentenced for wielding a soldier's weapon or a weapon of the nobility while being a civilian.
>>48088502
What about individual combat? Dual wielding swords was never used in armies, but there's some legitimacy to it in a 1v1 combat scenario.
>>48087239
Doubly confusing for me since glaive means gladius in french.
>>48088592
Very commonly done in the Wulin and by monks.
>no one posted this
Really /tg/?
>>48088644
kindly refer to
>>48086819
>>48086986
>>48088644
yeah, no one >>48086819
>>48086722
are you serious? Chakrams have existed for millenia.
>>48086722
So what's the benefit of a circular blade over a regular sword anyway? It definitely looks harder to make and use.
>>48088502
>they're not meant for war, so it's ceremonial!
There are weapons of war, ceremonial weapons, and then there are whole categories of general tools used for inflicting harm which do no fall under weapons of war or ceremonial weapons
There are weapons like chakrams, meteor hammers, tonfas, etc; which were not effective in war but is still designed to inflict harm as an extension of a martial artist or whatever bumfuck asshole who just has it in their hands
There are also shit like hoes and fucking benches, which were used by civilians to beat the shit out of thieves and robbers when war weapons were outlawed unless you were a soldier or a generally big shit noble
By your logic, where the fuck is my ceremonial horse bench? Made in fucking jade and gold and whatever the fuck, it'd be fucking amazing
>beat up enemies
>can sit your ass down when tired
>ass feels cool because it's made of jade and gold
>>48088422
All weapons are fundamentally similar. I can see how a weapon like in the OP would function. It's unwieldy and gives you poor leverage, but with a combination of one handed sword techniques and shield techniques you could make it work.
>>48086722
The answer to the question "Did Blizzard invent [anything]" is "no".
>>48089963
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>>48086722
>blizz
>invent anything
lmao
>>48090741
>what if this generic fantasy race is from space
>BRILLIANT
>what if they're hot so teenagers will masturbate to them
>YOU'RE PROMOTED
How invention doesn't work.
>>48086745
Maiev shadowsong was long before Tira, blizz did it first.
>>48087691
Fencing for several years. If you just swing your blade around like a buffoon and hope for collision, you aren't setting yourself up to counter.
>>48087303
This, basically. Warcraft is essentially an over-the-top fantasy setting filled with superheroes. Could she use a sword and be deadly? Probably. But she likes her giant circle blade and rips shit up all the same, and any even moderately skilled person using a sword, shield, and plate would get absolutely destroyed fighting her.
It's akin to a martial artist taking a swing at Captain America. You might make a good show of it, but he'll still just wreck you.
