Malacath edition
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>Lore Resources
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[Pocket Guide to the Lore] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AtsWXZKVqB4Q825_SwINY6z4_9NaGknXgeOknOCDuCU/edit
[Elder Lore Podcast] http://www.elderlore.wordpress.com/
[How to Become a Lore Buff] http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1112211-how-to-become-a-lore-buff/
>General Rules
No waifus or husbandos except for Elysana and Gortwog gro-Nagorm.
Keep the MK/Lady N related squabbling to a minimum.
Previous Kalpa >>48055062
>>48078248
>Malacath
You mean Triminac
>>48078313
Except for everybody around them.
Lets settle this once and for all, which race is the most pathetic
a) Bosmer
b) Orsimer
c) Reachmen
>>48078386
You'd need the outfit first
>>48078437
Reachmen by far.Actually Bosmer, but I don't want them to eat me.
>>48078437
Most pathetic: Bosmer
Most revolting: Orismer
Most trainwiz: Reachmen.
>>48078437
Reachmen by far.
Atleast orcs will do their duty for the legion.
Are the bosmer the only ones in Valenwood who have to abide the Green Pact? It seems like the fairies and shit wouldn't have to.
>>48078437
The answer will always be Bosmer.
>>48078437
d) MaormerAll of themOkay, Orsimer is the most shittiest
Is jyggalag a demi-prince of sheogorath?
Yeah his sphere is order, but not "balanced order" like peryite, more like an OCD kinda thing. He's quite mad.
Guys.
Guys.
I just now realized that most of the provinces were named off of their geography.
Highrock: High Cliffs and Moors
Skyrim: Mountains (Rim of the Sky)
Valenwood: Hidden woods, Valen as in vale.
Morrowind: Morrow and in tomorrow, wind as in the ashen wind. Probably named because to can tell tomorrow's wind by looking at Vardenfell.
Summerset Isles: On the far west, where the sun sets. Sunset = Summerset
Elsweyr: Obvious. Elsewhere.
The only one I don't get is Hammerfell, which I assume has to do with them being the warrior race, or smithing. I like how they solved it later with the dwemer hammer thing. I don't know, but I'm sure I'll think of something the more I smoke.
>>48078739
Look up Rourken.
>>48078739
Never actually thought about it like that. Pretty clever.
Godspeed, skoomanon, you crazy bastard.
>>48078807
Yeah, I know the story, that's why I alluded to it. I'm wandering what was going on in their minds during the original development.
>>48078437
REACH
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>>48078556
Hence why the fairies and shit aren't the dominant species.
>>48078739
WHOAAAAAAAAA
>>48078739
you're mistaken
high rock is where people get high
hammerfell is where people get hammered
>>48078437
Bosmer, followed by Orismer.
>>48078739
what about cyrodiil?
>>48078961
Ius is canon, then?
I can get some Camlorn kush? Some Daggerfall Drow?
>>48078739
Hammerfell because the original settlers followed a hammer that some divine dude threw, and settled where it landed.
How can Pelinal Whitestrake possibly be a robot from the future when the Crusader's Relics are all standard medieval weapons & armor?
checkmate athetits
>>48078981
It wasn't really a province at the time so I'm not worried about it, but check this out.
Idyllic, as in pleasant farmsteads. Rearrange it C Y D I I LL. Drop the L, add an R O, and you get Cyrodiil. Probably not the answer, but still is fun to consider.
>>48078981
It was only called the Imperial Province in Arena.
>>48079027
Technology in the TES universe hasn't improved in over five thousand fucking years of recorded history, so there's no reason to think people aren't still shitting in the woods and hitting each other with swords in the distant future.
>>48079027
Requesting source on that cropped image
>>48079027
At the time, I imagine the current level of technology would be around the Bronze Age.
>>48079027
DELETE THIS
Who is Ebonarm?
>>48079298
One of the twins, cousins of Ebonheart
>>48079298
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ebonarm
>>48079343
>Not knowing the meme.
While you're here, can you tell me what CHIM is?
>>48079298
Reman Cyrodiil
>>48079380
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:CHIM
>>48079464
Can you explain enantiomorph?
What has ESO done that is good?
>>48079596
Blessed us with the glory that is endlessly repeating ESO arguments every single thread.
>>48079596
From a purely MMO perspective, I like it a lot about it. The world is nice, the voice acting good, and the freedom to play your way is nice too. The RvRvR is fun.
From a lore perspective, there's a few things I like, and a lot to hate.
I actually like that it contradicts some aspects of the main game lore, as long as it does so in ways that aren't lame. The reason I like this is because it makes the main games more unreliable as far as historical events are, which is appropriate for elder scrolls lore. There should be contradictions.
Then again, I don't like that it changes a lot of the lore in lame ways. Jungles, mary sue princesses, all the factions that hate each other somehow getting along, etc, etc. I would have liked it better, if instead of being focused around a war of three political factions, each with largely the same capabilities, the game story factions were about wars between guilds/houses, all with different capabilities.
It would have been cool to have a mages vs fighters vs. thieves faction v faction wars. Sort of like how starcraft has factions with very different types of units, limiting classes to certain factions would have been really cool from a balance and pvp perspective.
Oh, and trainwiz, if you're in here, I have a question for you about one of the scripts in your Unique Uniques mod for Fallout 4. Specifically, the regenerating ammo script: does it have a limit to the amount of ammo that is regenerated hardcoded into it? I didn't see that as a parameter.
>>48079596
The Orsinium DLC
Bosmer antlers
Khajiit naming
Memeogorath actually doing something with insanity
Siege weaponry
I've thought for a good 10 minutes and that's all I can scrounge up from what I've played.
>>48080042
Couple things come to my mind.
Mintaur/Morihaus heritage
Maormer
Trinimac
The Green Pact
Dark Brotherhood
Thieves Guild/Outlaw
Redguard pantheon
And it expanded many things that Bethesda was too scared or didn't dare to expand
>>48080042
>Khajiit naming
But ESO's Khajiiti naming is not even remotely good.
It establishes a set of rules, and then never adheres to them.
So, first of all it introduces the concept of feminine and masculine honorifics. Fine.
The way they're divided is pretty dumb, but sure, I could see gendered honorifics. There's even arguably some indication of it in the lore.
The first problem is that it's not consistent with how it uses the honorifics. Despite the game stating that the honorifics are feminine, there's men that use "Dra", "Daro", and possibly "La". The same is true for the masculine honorifics "Dar", "Do", "Dro", "J/Ja/Ji", "Jo", "Ri". That's every masculine honorific.
Seriously, the only gendered honorific that's not used by someone of the opposite sex is "Ko" (used for respected healers, mages, and scholars), which is for some reason feminine.
But sure, let's say this is fine. It might just be that some people use opposite gender titles for no apparent reason.
Refishing for interest if anyone wants to test some Scrollhammer 2E on Maptools.Not in the mood to program today.
>>48080619
It's also worth noting that Jobasha (Douglas Goodall) gave us the original honorifics, and never said anything about them being feminine or masculine. ESO doesn't just make their own and original honorifics gendered, they divide up the old ones as well.
Female Khajiit didn't tend to have honorifics in Morrowind (or not mark them with ' or -), but whenever they've had honorifics in Oblivion and Skyrim, they've used them without any indication of a gendered divide.
Then there's the fact that double honorifics is outrageously common in ESO, despite this being established as a taboo. Every single character using "Ko" (which means that the character is respected) uses it as their second honorific (which is how people lose respect for you). It makes no sense.
I mean, even the woman writing the ESO book on honorifics uses two. And one of them is masculine.
In all of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, there's six Khajiit with two honorifics. No Khajiit in any book in any main game up until now has two honorifics.
In ESO, there's five Khajiit with honorifics just in the Temple of the Crescent Moons on Khenarthi's Roost.
/rant
>>48080627
But Anon, it's night and I need to sleep.
>tfw need to go to work on a sunday
>>48080742
>2016
>sleeping
>>48080787
Sorry, but Vaermina is calling for another seven hour romp in her realm before I have to get up and work.
>>48080846
Is rough being called in on a Sunday. That is okay. Go be responsible.
This would be a lot easier if I could harass people on weekdays.
Will you two just fuck already.<3
>>48081013No, they require sleep.
Carry on. As you were.
New game theories?
Hammerfell with High Rock & Orsinium DLC pls
>>48078437
Why are Bosmer considered pathetic?
>>48081215
Small penises
>>48081215
They're diminutive and the males are all fugly, annoying, manlet pests. And then the 'oh no, our Valenwood plants are sacred'. If it weren't for the cannibalism and the wild hunt they'd have no redeeming features.
>>48081207
>New game theories?
Let's not, that well is dry as fuck, and it's brought up every single thread.
It's completely uninteresting at this point.
>>48081403
Funny, I feel the same way about chim now
>>48081476
And no one was talking about that either.
>>48081215
Imagine being Bosmeri men.
>Short
>Ugly
>Whiny
>Annoying
>Can only eat meat
>Horrible protein farts all day
>Cant harm plants in Valenwood
>Can't even use some leaves to wipe your ass.
>Have to eat your little brother because you accidentally shot him in an archery contest.
Being a Bosmer is suffering.
>>48078437
Imga
Something I enjoy a great deal in TES is the ambiguity and room for interpretation that's present in-universe. It's not just us that can disagree about how a certain religion works or how worship of a deity should be done, but the people of Tamriel themselves very much disagree about these things.
A great example is from Daggerfall, about how the worshippers of Mara appear to be in internal theological conflict about the concept of "necessary violence". Basically the Maran Knights, a military order dedicated to a goddess of love and peace, creates some problems for the Benevolence of Mara.
That stuff is great, and I want more of it.
It's also a great way for the player to immerse himself, as your character gets a chance to see this sort of conflict and take a stance.
Should the Maran Knights be disbanded? Is it sometimes necessary to do harm to promote peace, and can you do so without breaking your religious obligations?
Even deciding that your character doesn't care about the issue says something about him.
>>48081501
Maybe not right at this moment, but it would be silly to pretend it's not talked to death
It would be more interesting to talk about near-chim at this point, super powerful beings but not demigods.
The extent of their power while still bound by the imitations of existence.
>>48081668
Did you know you can zero-sum someone?
>“I am Kena Warfel Tomasin, and I can prove that Akatosh, Nirn, and Oblivion are one,” said Warfel, writing out the mathematical formula that showed it was so.
>“I am Kena Zombel Mokafa, and I can prove that you do not exist,” said Oin. He wrote out the mathematical formula, which proved correct, and Kena Warfel Tomasin vaporized on the spot.
>>48081729
More like he Kena zero-sum someone
>>48081519
my fucking sides
i might be slightly tired
>>48081326
>men aren't the gorgeous ones
Honestly one of Kirkbride's weaker concepts tbqh
>>48081668
You know what would be really interesting?CHIM
>>48081755
Kena?
So is the ESO lore really that bad or is it mostly grumpy old men on /tg/?
>>48081854
Kena what
Kena scrib jelly?
Kena saltrice?
>>48081870
I don't get it, sorry
>>48081867
Yes.
It does some retarded shit but a lot of the hate is /v/-tier "stop liking what I don't like", or meming about frivolous points.
For instance, it's interesting to learn where flame atronachs live, since they seem to be a staple of daedra but didn't really have a proper origin.
Similarly, that "coldflame" atronach is just stupid since frost atronachs are already a thing. Why not just have solid-air atronachs while you're at it
>>48081867
It's generally just shoveling in as much of muhdeeplore as possible. It's not terrible in all of its attempts, but the good is vastly outweighed by the bad.
>>48081867
Some of it is passable, some of it is bad. Unfortunately I cannot pick and choose, and for me the sum is ultimately negative. So I disregard it entirely.
>>48081978
>It's generally just shoveling in as much of muhdeeplore as possible
And in the most generic and unimportant way.
>>48079193
>>48079207
>>48079266
My bad, lemme try this again.
How can Pelinial Whitestrake possibly be a ROBOT from a future advanced enough to make ROBOTS, when the Crusader's Relics are all standard medieval weapons & armor instead of the wrist lazer and mechanical chasis and Autobot matrix interpretations that the meme sprung from?
>>48079298
The Ebony Warrior from Skyrim.
>>48082090
Kek
>>48082064
Because the relics weren't made by the same entities who made Pelinal.
>>48080178
>Mintaur/Morihaus heritage
That was Kirkbride. They just happened to use it.
>>48082064
As far as we know, they do shoot lazers and shit, we just don't know how to make it do so
If we sent a smartphone with gorrilaglass screen back in 1300s, they'd just get a weird long hammer.
>>48081207
Already gave em last thread fampai
>>48081608
Why the FUCK aren't there any Imga is ESO
And no the "Imgakin" don't count
>>48082149
It's also probable that the killing light is part of Pelinal himself, not his equipment.
>>48081968
CONTRADICTIONS
O
N
T
R
A
etc.
>>48081978
cuuuuuute
>>48082098I-I was being serious...
>>48081978
It even has tusks!
>>48082209
Some people say Bethesda didn't allow it, but I don't have any source.
Either that or they didn't want to bother with a new, weird race.
And pathetic.
>>48082311
>>48082279
That's why it's cute :#
More animals need tusks
>>48082331
Hi, tuskwiz.
>>48082209
I think they said "naw fuck that shit nigga we out"or however monkeys talkwhen the war started and buggered off with the migrating trees to who knows where.
>>48080042
>Bosmer antlers
first I've heard of this
>>48082386
>>48081519
Bosmer are literally european gypsies in large groups. Brb, gonna create a Bosmer refugee camp in Morrowind where all the inhabitants whine, bitch, and the non-Bosmer complain of the stench.
>>48079027
>>48082517
Sounds exactly like the Khajiit in Skyrim.
>>48082636
>>48082685
>>48082689
THERE'S MORE TO THIS?
>>48082660
Because Nords are too stupid or honorable to enslave Khajiit.
>>48082725
Well what good is a furry creature that doesn't do well in the cold
>>48082725
What's the difference, M'uthsera?
>>48082149
I thought the implication was that it wasn't armor at all, but his sexy robot body. Hence why he never let anybody examine it, they were happy to assume it was funky armor.
Also surely he couldn't be Shezarrine if he was a fuckin' toaster.
>>48082710
You're in for a treat.
>>48082689
I feel like I should be sorry.
Should.
>>48082788
I damn hope you are.
>>48082767
>Also surely he couldn't be Shezarrine if he was a fuckin' toaster.
Says who?
>>48082802
I've never seen this one before.
Is... is that meant to be Cynder?
What's wrong with her faaaaace?
>>48082831
DELET THIS
>>48082831
Damn Youtube's really gone to shit
>>48082748
In Skyrim, the cold does not affect anyone.
>>48082831
Oh, yeah, I remember that. You must be the guy from /trash/.
>>48082882
It's older than /trash/, lad.
>>48082895
I'm aware.
>>48082906
Yet you immediately think I'm some guy from /trash/?
I've never even been there, except when it was just made to check it out.
Anyway I'm not him, and I've no clue what you meant.
>>48081867
Some of it is passable.
Most of it is terrible.
None of it is great.
>>48081867
>So is the ESO lore really that bad
No.
>is it mostly grumpy old men on /tg/?
Yes.
>>48081867
>So is the ESO lore really that bad
Yes.
>>is it mostly grumpy old men on /tg/?
No.
Super late but in reference to the Dar-ma comic last thread. On my first playthrough I went Vampire and when I saved her I would exclusively drink her blood from then on hoping to make her immortal some day.
>>48082882
Nah, wasn't me. That shit's nasty.
>>48078437
Orsimer are the literal shit babies of the elder scrolls universe thanks to the bitch Prince.
>>48082311
I know it's you, Tuskwiz.
>>48087230
>>48082831
fucking orcs I swear
What Aedra are not part of the Divines?
If Imperials are supposed to be huge weebs, how come there are more katanas in Morrowind?
>>48087289
Trinimac, for example.
>>48087375
Because Oblivion is shit at representing Cyrodiil.
>>48087411
This. Morrowind somehow had more Nordic and Imperial armors than Oblivion and Skyrim did.
>>48087531
It had more armors in general.
>>48087411
not him, but how come Morrowind Imperial guards never use any weeb shit either but are instead armed with regular straight swords?
>>48088155
Because they all use the same gear, combination of what makes sense and a bit of laziness on Bethesda's part.
I really like the horses depicted on their cuirass though.
>>48088155
Because the majority of legionnaries are from Colovia. Katanas are more popular in Nibenay.
>>48088155
>Elegant and efficient, the Akaviri katana is too expensive and sophisticated a weapon to be popular with the Legions or hero-adventurers, but well-heeled nobles, collectors, and swordmasters prize the blade for its superior balance and effectiveness.
>>48087230
Context?
So if the dwemer did crazy shit to become the skin of a god, then how do you explain this?
>>48088347
>TES is also infiltrated by weebs
>>48088473
TES was weeb from the beginning.
>>48088487
>not "anime_convention.webm"
>>48088440
According to Goodall channeling-Jobasha, they're probably individuals who died before the War of the First Council.
I know we all like to say Oblivion was LOTR inspired but Morrowind is the true offender here.
Balmora is obviously based off Mos Eisley in Star Wars, magic Morrowind's great houses are ripped from Harry Potter.
debate me
>>48088764
ur wrong
>>48088764
It's not right to debate the mentally challenged.
>>48088473
It's always been so. Just hidden-ish.
>>48088779
>>48088784
Look at Tarhiel, he even has a pointy wizard hat.
>According to Hestra, Cyrodiil became an Empire across the stars.
So, Cyrodiil Space Program dates back to Alesssian times, even before Reman and his Megalomoths?
>>48088764
This isn't even b8, you just threw the rod out there.
It is lonely to be a God...
>>48088984
Not in TES. There are like 18 others to keep you company.
Does anyone have the pic about gravity and house redoran ? I need it for research purpose.
>Even the earliest records of Summerset, however, shed no light on the origins of the Dwemer, who already occupied the northeast of Tamriel when Veloth and his people arrived there.
WHAT DOES IT MEEEEEAN
>>48089092
That they descended from elves who left before Veloth.
>>48088905
>never heard of Megalomoth
>look it up
>holy shit there's a 2nd Edition PGE after all?
Why the fuck isn't this on Imperial Library? All of MK's other ramblings are.
>>48089102
BATW
>>48078437
Bosmer are bros
no bully
>>48089230
Brosmer.
>>48088977
You still replied, Nord.
>>48089065
Funny you're asking cause I screencapped it
got it from 8gag's /tes/ board when I still went there, it's dead nowdon't worry guys, I literally only used 8gag for that one board, nothing else
>>48089302
What the fuck is 8gag. Some generic soulless memesite like memebase or 9gag?
>>48089340
kek
>>48089380
8 c h a n
I don't know if it's censored anymore, there was this huge drama about it a few years ago
don't go there, it's faggot central
I'm noticing 16 pop up for more than just Daedra.
16 ancient Khajiit provinces, 16 islands of Thraas, 16 square miles in Oblivion...
>>48089302
Just like I only use this garbage site for this thread
>>48089582
16th-dimensional mathematics
>>48089582
Numerology, Anon.
>>48089614
Eh. Some threads on /tg/ are alright, /ck/ is fine, /fit/ has it's rare gems, and /wsg/ and /wg/ are pretty good.
>Ding-dong drums
>Fat Lute
>Corprus infected Dunmers turn into a flute or clarinet
>House Dagoth hideouts are always dimly lit and perfect for parties
I bet Dagoth was just gonna use the footage of Akulakhan destroying the world captured by Dwemer tech as a music video for the songs of the 6th House.
>go to bed early
>check thread at lunch
What the fuck happened last night
Where did the memesters come from
>>48089992
who?
>>48078437
How do I not suck at Daggerfall?
Any tips for magic?
>>48090138
follow this guide
https://youtu.be/DWmKlE1fR58?t=967
>>48090138
Make a custom class. Get absorb magic trait. Take traits to be unable to use any armor but plate, and if you don't plan to use maces/swords/whatever weapon type, take a trait for them as well. Get money, train, sleep, repeat.
>>48090138
Remember to have fun.
>>48079596
I like what they added to Argonians but Argonians and the Hist are the only parts of the lore I find really interesting in ES to begin with.
You can see past events by getting high on Hist sap fumes. Outside of sipping sap there's also an ancient device used as a broadcast satellite for Argonians and the Hist to communicate with each other. And for some reason the Hist wants Argonians to live in the mud.
>>48081215
Because they're hypocrites.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Why_We_Farm
>>48090201
>the Hist wants Argonians to live in the mud.
Even the trees they lick know that Argonians should be kept in the dirt.
Make Morrowind Great Again
So one interpretation of TES is that it all comes down to music, right? That the Wheel is an instrument, the main theme tells the creation myth, each Tower's a different melody etc..
Some Tamrielic races have an innate magical ability that they channel through 'song'. Tapping into the base tune of reality or something to that effect. Do each of the 10 races have something like that? Or as far as we know is it just:
>Nords (The Voice)
>Redguards (Shehei)
>Bosmer (The Wild Hunt)
>Dwemer (Tonal Architecture)
![iliac_castle_orsinium[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Z2KgsY0.jpg "iliac_castle_orsinium[1].jpg")
>>48082209
Don't remember the source, think it was at a Quakecon presentation. Apparently Bethesda wasn't comfortable with having either Imga or Sloads in the game.
Zenimax Online originally planned to make Orsinium into a gigantic iron fortress using metal instead of stone, as seen in Daggerfall, but Bethesda didn't like it =^)
>>48090323
tbf they're different cities. The PGE only states that Gortwog's Orsinium was made of iron. Which makes double the sense if the prior destroyed Orsinium's weren't.
>>48090287
I'd argue that it's not so much that it all comes down to music, but rather that everything can be expressed through music.
The world is just music, the gods are just emotion, the Magne-Ge are just colour and so on. And any one of these is equal to the other in some regard.
Everything is music is colour is emotion and more. It's all the same thing expressed in different mediums.
>>48090287
Regular spellcasting requires sound, so it could be assumed that there is some relation.
I'd assume yes, but wouldn't say it as a fact until Bethesda decides that's what they are going to develop for their next game.
Tell me about Orsinium. Where is it even located? Where do Orcs live in the mean time, inbetween Orsiniums? Are the strongholds in Skyrim unique to Skyrim, or do Orcs live in these glorified garrisons all over the world? More specifically, do they live in High Rock and Hammerfell?
And lastly, how come Orcs are tolerated by the peoples they live around?
>>48090550
At the time of Skyrim, Orsinium is in the Dragontail mountains, between Hammerfell and Skyrim.
Inbetween Orsiniums they're just spread out, and there'd be strongholds in Skyrim, Hammerfell and High Rock.
And they're not really tolerated, Orsinium has been wrecked many times.
>>48090550
Tends to be far in the mountains where nobody else lives, technically in Highrock, some parts of Hammerfell, and some parts of Skyrim. Maybe in Elseweyr, if the name Orcrest is literal.
Disorganized tribes like in Skyrim.
They normally aren't warmly welcomed anywhere. They are legally citizens because of their service in The Legion.
>>48088155
Because the whole eastern influence thing is something incredibly overplayed.
>>48088168
Inspired by the armour worn by Russell Crowe in Gladiator, which was a big influence on Morrowind.
>>48088905
No, Cyrodiil literally stretched to the stars.
>>48090550
There are Orsimer everywhere.
They commonly serve in the Imperial Legion, and thus end up stationed all over Tamriel, some of then retiring in towns and cities all over Tamriel. Likewise both males and females who are ousted out of strongholds or leave willingly often end up scattered around the world.
Their connection to the Legion really seems quite strong. When an alliance of Redguards and Bretons ousted the Orsimer from Nova Orsinium in the Wrothgarian Mountains, the Legion aided survivors, helping many of them into Skyrim and the Eastern Reach.
But their traditional homeland is in Hammerfell and High Rock, especially the Dragontail Mountains and the Wrothgarian Mountains. There's also supposed to be a separate(?) population of Orsimer in Valenwood, of which little is known.
Orsimer outside of traditional or majority-Orsimer areas tend to live like the normal population of their chosen residence, which makes them quite different from the Orsimer found in traditional settlements.
There's two kind of permanent Orismeri settelments. The first is strongholds, which represents the traditionalist side of Orismer society. These settlements are like the ones you see in Skyrim, though I would be there's significant regional differences. Life in a stronghold is tribal and independent (though the strongholds around Orsinium are likely bound to it).
>>48090992
Then there's Orsinium, which is the wandering and eternal kingdom of the Orcs. Orsinium is always the only proper city ruled by Orsimer, and it is rather different from living in a stronghold. Orsinium is a kingdom proper, and is more metropolitan and sophisticated than regional strongholds. The differences between Orsinium and stronghold traditionalism can grow quite large. For example, the great king Gortwog introduced the belief that Malacath is just a demon whose goal is to forever keep the Orsimer an outcast folk, which Gortwog saw as wrong. He therefor (re)established the worship of Trinimac, believing him to be separate from Malacath. At the time of Gortwog's brilliant rule, the majority of Orsinium's citizens worshipped Trinimac and rejected their role as outcasts, while traditionalist strongholds still worship Malacath.
It's possible that this religious awakening and racial re-defining that was going on in Orsinium is one of the reasons that Gortwog's Orsinium was judged dangerous and destroyed. It is not known today if the new Orsinium also prefers to worship Trinimac. But I'd guess there's more Orsimer Trinimac worshippers across Tamriel now, decendants of those who fled Gortwog's Orsinium.
Since I refuse to go on /vg/, what are some the essential Skyrim mods? I'm looking for Muh Lore mods and immersion.
>>48091011
>dong
>>48091052
I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>48091047
that's a shame, but this isn't the place to generally ask about skyrim mods
This isn't /tesg/ minus waifus, if you want /tesg/ minus waifus, start reporting all the NSFW cancer that has nothing to do with the game.
>>48091047
Well, you're going to have to use /vg/ or any place else. We don't deal in mods here, for the most part.
>>48091150
>>48091138
Pity.
On a more related note; What relation is there between Betmer and Mer?
>>48091200
>What relation is there between Betmer and Mer?
there is none
would you play an isometric elder scrolls game?
>>48091231
I would play the shit out of an isometric elder scrolls game.
>>48090696
>>48090698
>>48090992
>>48091011
Thanks lads.
>>48088764
>This is a katana. He just threw it in the water.
Aldruhn has more of a Mos Eisley vibe than Balmora.
There are four HP Houses. Morrowind has three or five depending how you count.
>>48091231
Absolutely
>>48091011
> For example, the great king Gortwog introduced the belief that Malacath is just a demon whose goal is to forever keep the Orsimer an outcast folk, which Gortwog saw as wrong. He therefor (re)established the worship of Trinimac, believing him to be separate from Malacath. At the time of Gortwog's brilliant rule, the majority of Orsinium's citizens worshipped Trinimac and rejected their role as outcasts, while traditionalist strongholds still worship Malacath.
This was also the case during the 2nd era when pic related declared himself king of the Orsimers and was the driving force behind a rebuilt Orsinium, one including a temple dedicated to Trinimac.
>>48091138
Reporting doesn't seem to do much.
The only time anything happens is maybe a pic is deleted if it's a pussy shot
vg is probably ran by barenziah or something
>>48091231
Definitely.
>>48082767
He wasn't literally a robot...I mean he was a robot but he wasn't made of metal
he was an artificial Ada
>>48091231
Yeah. Would like it if it looked like pic related.
>>48091321
Weren't orcs before the warp in the west just uncivilized and agressive? (atleast, more than they were after it)
>>48091367
Because they've accepted it, they're ok with cancer infesting TES discussion, and driving away anyone who isn't a degenerate.
>>48091391
do want
>>48091047
There's the actually a mod that gives lore related loading screens. And another that brings books from Daggerfall and Morrowind into Skyrim.
As for recommended mods, get all or most of the essentials on the /vg/ website (http://www.tesgeneral.com/#!essential/cs1p)
After that, a few mods I like are Convenient Horses, All three Sounds of Skyrim, Audio Overhaul 2, NARC, Cloaks of skyrim/Winter is coming/frostfall/RND/all that stuff., Morrowloot, Eternal Darkness, Skysight- Bigger trees, Cutting room floor, Run for your lives/when vampire attack, Unlimited ring/amulets, Dovahkin Prayers, Harvest Overhaul, Guard Dialogue overhaul, Gildergreen regrown, Height adjusted races with true height- Morrowind edition, Holidays, More Village Animals, Learn Alchemy from Recipes, Pumping Iron, TTYM, Lanterns, wearable lanterns, Tamriel Compendium, Ingredients of Tamriel, Apothecary inventory rebuild, Balanced Magic (Sadly gets rid of free casting), Spell Sneak Attacks 2, Improved Candlelight and magelight, longer candlelight, multi magelight, Lore Friendly Necromancer's amulet, Passive Weapon Enchantment recharging, smaller ice spike and ice spear, Spells of Tamriel, More Salt, Morrowind Imports, Telvanni Bug Musk Merchant, Unique Region names, Viewable faction rank, The Parthunaax dilemma, Read and learn speechcraft, Sneaktools, and Unique uniques.
I have much more, but that's just some I recommend.
>>48091231
What kind of gameplay would it have? full on turn based like in fallout or something like runescape? what other ways are there even and how could we make the combat interesting in a game like that?
>>48081867
You physically go to far shores, take soul of High King Emeric that has been already severed from his body, take it back to Nirn and his soul just enters the body with comments like
>how do I fit back in, does my hand go here
Let that sink in...
>>48081867
Every other NPC is a ghost that literally returned from dreamsleeve to help you out on a quest, it breaks rules of souls, time, magic, everything for the sake of shitty MMO tier quests.
>>48091857
PoE uses real-time combat which you can pause to issue commands
>>48091231
It's only my dream to make an isometric Indie game, open world modern sci-fi fantasy RPG with tons of lore and gamplay based heavily off of Morrowind as a sort of spiritual successor. As in if I had a million dollars that's exactly what I'd do, since I could support myself for 5 or so years.
So, yes.
>>48091425
>Weren't orcs before the warp in the west just uncivilized and agressive?
No, but Orsinium was less powerful, and hence had less influence over the Orsimer. If you want civilised Orsimer, you need a strong central power in Orsinium.
>>48091857
I could go for something like Arcanum.
>>48092073iktfb
>>48091423
Like, an android? Eh. I guess that makes sense.
Begs the question though: why the fuck did the Divines make a Shezarrine? I thought they hated that guy.
>>48092106
Because they needed help. Morihaus probably couldn't do it all by himself.
Not to mention Akatosh is half Lorkhan anyways.
>>48091972
Why is a Breton in the Redguard afterlife?
>voiced by Bill Nighy
Hey s'not all bad.
>>48092073
Same, I've already imagined what the races, cultures, and provinces would be like.
>>48092146
a breton can follow the redguard pantheon just like a black person can follow buddhism
>>48091425
>>48092075
>For thirty years, a joint military force from Daggerfall, Sentinel, and the Ansei Order of Diagna attempted to breach the seemingly impenetrable walls of Torug gro-Igron's fortress kingdom. In 1E 980, they succeeded, annihilating all who lived within, scattering the stones into dust.
>The Orsimer exodus was long and particularly deleterious to the character of its people. They had never been well-regarded by the other inhabitants of Tamriel, but now, with no hope, they became little more than monsters. Other Orcs with vision attempted to create homelands over the next three thousand years, but all were attacked and destroyed before they could take root.
>In 3E 399, however, a new Orc visionary, Gortwog gro-Nagorm acquired the land near the former site of Orsinium, and began to construct a new city for his people.
PGE3
>>48092133
>Not to mention Akatosh is half Lorkhan anyways.
I've never understood this.
>>48092161
I was going to make a joke about everybody being upset about cultural appropriation, but decided that would be too easy.
>>48092187
Pretty simple really. Aka is Stasis, Lorkhan is Change.
During Convention, Lorkhan put Aka into his heart, hence why a dragon is always in a red diamond.
Mix them together and you get Time, or permanent change. Now you can't be your own Grandpa since change is structured.
>>48092259
Holy shit, I finally fucking understand the red diamond/dragon symbolism, thanks
>>48092106
Kyne was his wife.
No coincidence she sent Morihaus.
>>48092422
Not a problem. Most things in TES make sense, it's merely a matter of having it explained right, and not in a muddled way to sell how "cool and weird" it is.
>>48092259
>Lorkhan put Aka into his heart
what?
>>48092553
I SAID LORKHAN PUT AKA INTO HIS HEART. DURING THE CONVENTION. WHEN IT GOT TORN OUT.
>>48092612
got a source for that?
>>48092653
>>48092693
thats not a source. i want an in game source
>>48088440
I love how when you talk to this dude in Tribunal, he thinks enchanting your sword with a flaming torch like enchantment is child's play when no one else could do it in game
Really shows how fuck-you-advanced the dwemer were
>>48092553
>>48092653
I was about to ask this yeah.
Sounds a little too presumptuous.
Also are you implying Akatosh is an enantiomorph and that "Aka" is a separate entity?
>>48092716
It's a collection of sources that a hypothesis can be based upon.
Like "Yokudan warrior sects used snake iconography, clearly they're the missing Snakemen of Akavir".
>>48092716
There's in-game sources in there, and word of developer. If that's not good enough, go ahead and find another explanation to the dichotomy and all the stuff laid about the game, such as referring to Talos as The Many Headed twice in lore, and having Akatosh represented as having a multiple heads as well.
>>48092727
Anu is separate from Akatosh, if that is what you are asking.
>>48092524
Yeah, never been a 'weird for the sake of weird' fan.
>>48092724
Tribunal was the shit.
There was this guy with a dwemer robot arena in his basement.
>>48092831
It's like the occult. Most of the stuff is fairly simple, it's people that want to seem mysterious that make it obtuse.
Really, I like how weird it can be at sometimes, but that's not why I like it.
>>48092810
No, I know Anu. You said Aka, not Akatosh. And implied some fusion between him & Lorkhan (presumably resulting in Akatosh).
>and word of developer
Ah, fair enough. I didn't notice. Yeah, it explicitly says '"Lorkhan is Akatosh" - Kirkbride' in the middle there.
....But now i'm even more confused, because I thought the entire point is that they were opposites ala Anu & Padomy.
>>48091047
tesgeneral.com has good guides that cover modding, follow them and you'll have all the essentials, after that play the game and whenever you think
>hey I wonder if there is a game that does X
there definetely is one
>>48092693
this image is confusing
>>48092916
Might just be an error.
Now you see how deep the rabbit hole goes. They are opposites, a dichotomy means related or conjoined opposites. Time itself is a contradiction.
These conjoined opposites did not always exist as such, since there was a time when time didn't exist. When Akatosh/time/dragons are messed with, reality can temporarily revert back to a stage of timeless chaos. These are known as Dragonbreaks.
>>48092916
I mean, it's not the first time that two opposites are the same. They did a whole expansion on that in Oblivion.
>>48092966
Give it a while. The more you understand it, the less it strains the eyes and brain.
>>48093000
That might actually mean something important, considering Sheogorath is merely a Sithis shaped hole.
>>48092693
this picture is a pain to "navigate" and understand, I think its one of those pics that are only understandable in retrospect, if you know all that stuff you get it, but just looking at the pic won't explain anything
>>48091123
>>48093145
>tfw I'm gonna get blamed for this again
>>48093223
I don't know who you are or what you did, but I want you to know that you deserve it.
