Should vampires be sexualized?
They're corpses.
So yes, Goths will sexualize them.
rule 43 has no exceptions
Depends on your setting man.
>>47996798
>rule 43
That's "You can find anything on the internet, if you look long enough."
Rule 34 is the one about porn.
Also, sure, go ahead and sexualize your vampires, necrophiliac.
>>47996768
yeah, they're the icing on the cake for my pregnant rotting muscle girl fetish.
>>47996872
Better a necrophiliac than a furry, furfaggot
>>47996768
They pretty much always have been in the modern sense. Even in Stoker's "Dracula" there are very clear parallels between vampires and seduction
>>47996803
But also this
>>47996900
I'm not sure that corpse-fucking is at all any better animal-fucking.
Fucking degenerates.
Wait, no, don't fuck degenerates, that only encourages them.
>>47996768
Vampire should be fraternized, idealized and pedestalized.
>>47996966
And delitized
>>47996768
No exception.
>>47996915
pretty much this.
vampires are inherently incarnates of sex and seduction. werewolves, in contrast, are inherently incarnates of madness and mental illness.
Sexy ones should.
That's sort of how sexualisation works.
Count Orlock's got swagga though, he don't need no sparkles.
>>47996768
as long as it's cute
>>47996768
Sure, as long as they aren't also romanticized. Vampires should be heartless predators.
>>47996768
Been that way since James Malcon Rymer.
Means it's too late to change now.
>>47997113
Precisely; they should be as cold as the grave.
>>47996796
To quote Voltaire: "This corpse that I'm undressing, would be sexier I'm guessing, if I only were a goth...."
>>47996768
Vampires are supposed to be seductive and suave to make up for their weird allergies to garlic, churches and not being able to go out during the daytime. Also the murder. Sometimes rape, but mostly the murder.
>>47997059
>>47996915
Listened to a podcast that said Red Riding Hood was about rape and victim blaming. I think it's more seduction and a general warning to young woman who, at the time, were pretty sheltered until their coming out and would probably be very keen on being seen as super adult and special.
Maybe
>>47999747
I didn't know Red Riding Hood was gay
>>47999808
What?
>>47999747
It was about walking in the woods by yourself, holy fucking shit.
>Agrarian women
>Sheltered
You have some odd misconceptions about people who, ideally, had kids at 15 or 16.
>>47996768
should OP be reported and hidden?
yes
>>47996768
>The count bids potence and punches you in the face, do you have Fortitude?
>I have one dot in it
>Well...I think you might survive because he's got 5 in Potence., thank Cain he can't pull Burning Wrath.
>>47996768
Considering they represent domination, rape, and have that whole biting the neck (and erogenous zone) thing I think the more appropriate question is can you desexualize a vampire and still call it a vampire? Just because somethng sucks blood does not make it a vampire.
>>47999875
Original print of the story ended with this (translated of course).
"From this story one learns that children, especially young lasses, pretty, courteous and well-bred, do very wrong to listen to strangers, And it is not an unheard thing if the Wolf is thereby provided with his dinner. I say Wolf, for all wolves are not of the same sort; there is one kind with an amenable disposition – neither noisy, nor hateful, nor angry, but tame, obliging and gentle, following the young maids in the streets, even into their homes. Alas! Who does not know that these gentle wolves are of all such creatures the most dangerous!"
Dracula is pretty sexy
![old_alucard___hellsing_ova_by_cytherina-d4xxsuq[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9DDQDPj.png "old_alucard___hellsing_ova_by_cytherina-d4xxsuq[1].png")
>>48000046
I would go gay for this Dracula.
>>47999904
>not "because he's got one... two... three... four... five... five dots in potence, ah ah ahhhh."
Ya done goofed.
>>47999930
stupid sexy Victorian PSAs
>>47996768
So long as everyone not enthralled takes notice of all the associated problems with them being sexualized while the thrall is blissfully unaware of the impending dangers, yes, it can work.
>>48000111
You got to be careful around guys like that. They like it raw and will leave you hanging afterwards with no regards for your feelings
>>48000117
Only in Final Death can I atone, make sure you have a vacuum cleaner on hand.
>>47996768
Everything should be sexualised.
>>48000203
Even better? Original had Red Riding Hood crawling into grandma's bed and included "What big arms you have" and "What big legs you have"
>>47996768
The original vampires were either walking talking lesbian metaphors or used seduction as a tool to sustain themselves.
Complaining about vampires being sexualized when they fucking started deeply entwined with the subject of sex and sexuality is like complaining about 4chan sucking.
Do whatever you want with them, but I've always thought it took away from the horror element of them.
>>47999747
>Red Riding Hood was about rape
Not very far off the mark.
>victim blaming
eugh, one of those things that is rooted in reason but then spirals into crazy shit
>>47996768
If you're going to try and take the sexualization out of Vampires, you're pretty much throwing away everything people know about vampires.
>>47997076
He loves a woman with an "enormous Boosum" though.
>>47999671
To quote Voltaire
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>>47999904
so the Count is Malk with Potence?
>>4800000
>>47996768
Vampires should be terrifying. That is all.
>>47999930
So...Little red riding hood was a children's moral story about how pretty young girls could avoid getting knotted? Never thought of it that way.
>>47996768
Some of them.
>>48004550
He's probably old as fuck at least 6th gen so it's not unheard of.
Vampires being alluring is an important part of their shtick since the dawn of vampire literature.
>>47997059
Vampires represent disease retard. It's why Nosferatu has rat teeth.
Did you know that vampires have perfectly clean anuses? They don't eat so they don't poop, so inevitably their bowels would be squeaky clean at some point.
I like vampires that age though, ones that turn into voldemort/nosferatu like 600 years after turning. Old vampires shouldn't be sexualized.
>>47996768
You're a couple centuries too late, OP. Vampires have been seducing maidens since the first Vampire novels/poems were being written.
>>47999912
Make one who simply rips off your jugular veins, make it a beast.
>>47999930
Some of the original Vampire myths had them as flesh eaters.
>>48009240
Or vaguely unsavory because they never bothered cleaning it much. Depending on how long ago they changed and their level of hygiene they might be pretty foul.
Ones that are messy eaters, especially in hot climates, will smell utterly vile because of the stench of blood emanating from the caked and dribbling blood that's started to go bad/is generally not a good smell anyway.
The other kind of messy eater that actively eats flesh because of dietary reasons, psychosomatic hangups requiring them to really chew people up even though only the blood is nutritional, or who are slavering beasts that just plain get gore and various bodily waste everywhere when they eat because them eating is like shoving a cow into a wood chipper will be worse.
I know a guy who works in a slaughterhouse and he smells at BEST, faintly, but distinctly like death. Usually it's worse.
And he's trying to be sanitary so he can feel like a human being at the end of the day/not get sick, and because of the regulations.
So I guess what I'm saying is there are a lot of situations where vampires are going to be disgusting. Things like Ghouls will automatically shift at least one or two columns towards "most disgusting motherfuckers ever" in comparison because they definitely eat everything, actually prefer it to be rotten, and are generally bestial. Some varieties will also be well... Ghoulish and unpleasantly morbid, and actively taunt and torment you. Even if they dont' want to kill you the way they would try to make you have an accident or just make you leave would be scary and stomach turning.
>>48007223
So we've got and absolute nutcase who can disintegrate you with a slap, oh and he's got a thing for counting, we are so fucking screwed.
>"Now I vill count zem, vun...two...zree...four...fife...that's Fife, Fife ex-Neonates, ah-ah-ah!"
>>47997059
>vampires are inherently incarnates of sex and seduction
Oh, definitely, though not it's not necessarily expressed openly. I would personally say that the modern vampire was originally more about control, including sexual control. In Polidori's 'The Vampyre', Lord Ruthven is sexual in a way which would be predatory even if he *wasn't* also killing them. To contrast in Stoker's 'Dracula', Dracula's own sexuality is more of an undercurrent coloring his stalking of women--colored, in part, by Vampyre's Ruthven, as that book came out a few years before and was a big hit at the time (though as we all know it's now been completely supplanted by Dracula). And then of course you also have more the obviously sexual vampire sisters at the beginning of the book.
The morals of gothic fiction is clear: be careful of undead sluts because they will ruin your life.
>>48008403
It depends entirely on what sort of vampire we're talking about. There's by no means a cohesive mythology.
Vampires have been sexualized for pretty much all of their modern portrayal.
All the way back to the genre-making Dracula novels, it's been a sexual metaphor with the bite victims pretty much being described as having screaming orgasms when they get bit.
As characters, I treat them as I might any other sapient character, they can have sexual desires and feelings, and it's possible that such feelings can be reciprocated by others.
I'm open with vampires being part of sexuality in my campaigns just as I'm open about most anything else with a sapient mind and sexual development being included.
>>47999769
Female vampires are the shit but they always make them into awful lolita oujos instead of powerful charismatic and domineering.
>>48010203
Carmilla, you twit.
>>48010238
>carmilla.
cant forget the good old moral 'lesbians are all awful predators who will suck out your blood and separate you for jesus' that predated dracula
>>48000046
I know, right?
>>47996915
This
Werewolves could essentially be construed as a warning to children about hanging around violent drunks.
Vampires really just address the other side of the spectrum and teach young girls to be wary of smooth talking fops fiddling with their jewelry around dark alleys and bars.
>>47996900
I disagree
>>47999769
I happen to know that thing has a penis the size of my arm and I'm not going anywhere near it.
Vampires were always sexualized. However, they were also depicted as a danger that would damn you eventually, not ideal boyfriend material. Even in Rice's stuff (the first popular omg I want to fuck a vampire fiction) they were at least still dangerous.
>>48010581
Well now I gotta track one down.
>>48009709
>Vhere is my money? You've been late four times i've been counting
>How many times must i smack you before you act right Vun.. Two.. two smacks ah-ah-ah
Just make them into unfuckable monsters
>>48010299
>Charlotte is a bloodsucking anime
I didn't think best girl could get even more best, but it just happened
>>48012828
I'd fuck that
>>47999769
female vampires work well because their bloodsucking ways are familiar to us.I am a mosquito
>>47996768
Vampires were always sexualized. Dracula was a suave son of a bitch and neck-biting is commonly erotic, if blood-sucking isn't.
They're definitely less chaste now. We need to reverse the corruption of the vampire youth if we want this madness to end!
>>48012828
I'd like to see it fucking some pretty girl.
>>47996768
Depends on the bloodline.
>>48010581
>>48010608
I don't what you're on about, that smug vampire has no dick
>>48013431
Well then what's the fucking point?
>>47996915
Vampires were allegories for the perils of letting strange men into your home. They were supposed to scare virgins into staying chaste before marriage.
I still roll with a couple varieties of vampire. One that goes the incubus/succubus route and one that's all about blood-sucking corpses.
>>48012893
Nothing chaste about Dracula. He was a polygamist with 3 wives and he still went around London getting lewd with all the proper English ladies.
>>47996796
>>47999671
>Quoting something
>Using quotes instead of meme arrows
>>47996768
It's how they became a Thing.
Now, let's say, "how" vampires should be sexualized? Do you prefer Dracula or Carmilla?
>>47999912
Not all of them vamps suck blood even.
I guess the most defining traits would be "undead" and "drains life-force".
>>48012828
You gonna have to try harder than that to turn my erection.
I mean seriously, you call that unfuckable? He has just the right amount of muscle, lean and virile looking with a strong jaw and mysterious red eyes.For a monster he's got good posture and I'm sure his lovers really enjoy being wrapped up in those wings. I bet when he talks it's in a dark, gravely baritone.
It's like he got all the right parts of the bestial bit with just enough man to not make things weird.
That thing is less "deviant desire" and more "erotic sexventure."
You may want to double check your monsters anon. They may look horrible to you but there's a good chance your players are might just be too eager to scream for them.
>>48010230
>lolita oujos
>powerful charismatic and domineering
Remind me again how these two things are mutually exclusive?
>>48015238
What the fuck is that webm.
>>48009709
Oh god, think of the levels of Celerity he has as well
>"Now vith my six dots of celerity, thats vun...Two..zree...four...fife...six, six dots I activate Quickness! Ah-ah-ah!"
>>48015295
Seconded. Dafuq is that shit?
>>48015238
no, you don't get to post some freaky shit like that without at least saying it's name.
>>48015629
Species II I believe.
It's part of the condition (even on Sesame St):
https://youtu.be/eT1PP7Hx2rg
>>48015034
>the cuck comes to save the day
how did you arrive at this filename? If I remember Carmilla right, the General was no cuck.
>>47996768
>Should vampires be sexualized?
Yes. Dracula was invented in the first place as a manifestation of repressed sexual desire.
>>48015238
Why in hell you would seriously consider the possibility that everyone is fucked up just as much as you are? Thou are into gay furry shit, ain't ya?
>>48000111
I would drive my knife into him.And I mean one of my many knifes, I'm not a protestant sissy lusting for man dick.
>>48019161
That's quite simple.
I never read it.
Something with no blood flow can't be sexy. They don't have erections!
>>47996768
Of course. In my campaigns, I make all vampire women insanely hot but insanely evil. All vampire men except the really old monsters look like NTR antagonists, and they're sexually threatening as hell.
I mean, we're talking the ultimate bad boys and bad girls here. Of course they have to be sexy as hell, and confident in their power. They're inherently antagonists, while their women are the ultimate shit-test for a PC to overcome.
>>48015295
>>48015629
>>48015764
Species II, about the final 20 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y03ITmppyMI
The movie is almost as romantic as In The Mouth of Madness.
Btw, Species I had TENTACLE ATTACK NIPPLES.
>>48023723
Thank you for giving me an out to that one asshole that never wants to fade-to-black sexual encounters.
>>48015238
There is absolutely nothing about this post that is even remotely acceptable.
>>48023687
We're talking about undead creatures that drink blood for sustenance, can shape shift, have super human speed and strength and depending on the serting a whole host of other abilities, and you take issue with how they engorge their members?
>>47996768
I think, for the old-timey audience, the sexuality was actually supposed to be part of the horror.
>>47996768
I don't know, but I think I'd oppose any deliberate attempt to make them non-sexualized.
Like, the Legacy of Kain vampires are my favourites, and that game's got homoerotic undertones squirting out the ears.
>>48023823
Careful. As this thread proves, he might just start jacking it all the harder.
>>48024461
Don't forget that they tend to be snarky too.
>>48023687
If you followed through all the consequences of vampires having no blood (IF you're using a type of vampire that doesn't have blood), you'd end up being a creature completely unable to imitate a human being.
Vampires can totally get boners.
By dark magic if necessary.
>>48024526
>Be vampire
>Can get boners at will as long as I have blood, because dark magic
>Use this awesome ability to be the life of every paranormal party
>Sword fight with other vampire lads
Living the high life mates
>>48015238
...I did get a boner from this, why?!
>>48024489
That just adds to the genuine horror experience
