What's wrong with starting off in a tavern?
Taverns are nice.
>>47995399
purely the cliche factor
and eveyone demanding "originality" with no appreciation for establishment of a scene
Taverns are fucking staples to the genre. Every adventure should include a tavern sequence. Back before the times of the internet people needed to collect information in taverns from the locals.
Making dumb shitposts as an excuse to post your shitty dA waifu isn't nice.
>>47995422
>purely the cliche factor
>>47995431
>Taverns are fucking staples to the genre.
Both of these. Taverns make sense as social gathering places, but because of that they're overused. It's a cliché because, like many clichés, it simply works. Some change is refreshing though, from time to time.
When starting an adventure you could come up with some convuluted narrative (like "you're all prisoners", but even that is being turned into a cliché by the Elder Scrolls games) that might turn out to be fun if everyone plays along, but when the DM starts out with "you all start in a tavern", everyone knows what's up.
Most DMs don't know how to make a tavern worth visiting.
Barkeep, order drinks, get rumor, go on quest. Do it enough times, and it just makes you want to skip all that and start off in the dungeon.
If you have started a new game so many times that it has become cliche, time to take a break or start looking into another hobby.
>>47995598
How do you make a tavern worth visiting then, other than that one tavernier/bar wench who knows you on a first name basis and remembers your favorite drinks and snacks?I'm a bit of a culinary enthusiast, so I tend to be pretty detailed when it comes to food and drink in my settings, sometimes going as far as to give my regions regional cuisines based on IRL cuisines. I guess that's also why my settings always have a not!France
Trying to think of a tavern name, but all that comes to mind right now is The Subtle Dick Joke.
>>47995572
>It's a cliché because, like many clichés, it simply works.
Uh, I don't think you know what a cliché is.
>A cliché or cliche (/ˈkliːʃeJ/ or /klJˈʃeJ/) is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has become overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel.
>>47995729
>The [noun]
>The [adjective] [noun]
>The [noun] of [region]
>[Name]'s [type of establishment]
Examples
>The crown
>The bejeweled crown
>The crown of Cornwall
>Cornelia's cookery
>>47995399
I don't know. My DM never starts us in a tavern. I feel like I'm missing out.
>>47995641
Seven Secrets Tavern.
Players entertain themselves by slowly discovering its seven secrets.1. The mounted minotaur head will animate and answer any question if you offer it a drink.2. The cook in the back is actually a merman that sits in a barrel.3. At 2AM, the ghost of a halfling appears and sits in the reserved seat at the bar, with seven secrets of his own.4. The recipe for the roasted chicken doesn't include chicken.5. The king visits once a month dressed as an old lady.6. The minotaur head is actually just a cow head.7. There is no seventh secret.
>>47995399
You are railroaded into paying for drinks.
>>47995641
>it's a small town and the only place renting rooms
>it's got a gambling room in the back, plus all the characters who'd go there
>it's the tavern-of-choice for certain someones
>no one has ever died while asleep in their room
Take your pick.
A tavern alone is of no note. A tavern is either a reflection of the society it exists in, or a rejection of that same society however. A flat town means a flat tavern. You see where this is going.
>>47995399
>muh originality
>>47995729
The Dispenser.
The Beer Belly.
The Ol' Watering Hole.
The Nirvana.Under the sign: You'll get so drunk, you'll stop caring about anything.
Fenris II.Under the sign: We make drunks like Fenris makes warriors:loud, proud and spoiling for a fight.
And that's off the top of my head.
>>47995474
>Making dumb shitposts as an excuse to post your shitty dA waifu isn't nice.
Are you new to the board? OP's been doing that for years.
>>47995966
wow dude, are you fucking new or something, huh? Did my post-ironic tone not tip you off or something?
Christ almighty, this board is a joke and you're not the only one responsible.
>>47995729
The Winking Cyclops is one of my favorites, but that really might be just a subtle dick joke.
>tfw the local tavern gets shutdown
>tfw you walk in one day
>tfw you didn't even notice it had been converted into a gay bar because the name didn't even need to be changed
>>47995572
goddamn don't start in a prison unless your party are intense murderhobos
>why is the moralfag in prison?
>if your strong enough to break out, how did you get arrested in the first place?
>you better not be relying on a GMPC to help them
>would the moralfag even want to break out if they have faith they'll be found innocent?
>>47996494
Your lack of imagination is astounding.
>>47995399
I desperately want an adorably sweet country girl Tiefling who was raised like any other child because the reputation just wasn't there.
>>47996519
>GMPC wizard's apprentice tells you how to escape the dungeon
>GMPC Emperor decides you're useful to his order to assassins and bodyguards
>GMPC Emperor needs to flee through an escape tunnel in your cell
>GMPC dragon disrupts the execution
>>47996585
Why is he elder scrolls Trebek
>>47996616
because if you watch the Oblivion documentary they made, he's basically an enthusiastic kid who wants to make great games full of features like bandit raids and cooking, but the company engineers won't let him because it's too much work.
>>47996580
>Children love playing with her cow tail
>She insists and everyone assumes she came from dad getting frisky with a Minotaur
>Sheactually likes it when you play with her horns.
>>47996585
I like how in defense of your imagination you take a pretty famous plot point from elder scrolls.
GG guy.
Make taverns great again.
>>47996494
>why is the moralfag in prison?
Corrupt police, mistaken identity, committed a crime under a wizard's mind control, protested an unjust law, saved an innocent from a witch-burning, got in a barfight for good reasons, framed by fairies... are you under the impression that good people never wind up in prison, in real life or in stories?
>if your strong enough to break out, how did you get arrested in the first place?
are you further under the impression that jailbreaks never occur, in reality or fiction?
>you better not be relying on a GMPC to help them
That's not necessary, but it's a perfectly fine way to start a campaign. Questgiver posts bail, asks them to do a quest in return.
>would the moralfag even want to break out if they have faith they'll be found innocent?
Do you also think innocent people always get out? Do you not know anything about jail, even about jail in stories?
>>47996694
Point me to another major work that will inspire the GM to start the game with a prison break.
Riddick, Andy Dufresne, and Manuel Garcia "Mannie" O'Kelly-Davis are not level one characters either.
>>47995729
If you're looking for a gross, run down dive-like tavern name, go with "The Grody Toadstool".
>>47996752
I think he just meant Lawful characters and not just MORALFAGS. A lawful good character would have to break their alignment to break out of jail, but only if they were put their lawfully according to the laws of his land or order
So yeah, there are plenty of ways out of jail.
>>47996762
The Shawshank redemption. Everybody in that film was technically level 0
Checkmate motherfucka
>>47995399
some of my best adventures have started outside the tavern at the bounty board. They always tend to start at a social gathering place and taverns are about the best ones for lower level play.
>>47996949
>who is Andy Dufresne
You're not as smart as you think you are.
>>47997020
I must not be because I can't find what point you are trying to make here.
>>47997107
That's the name of Tim Robbin's character in Shawshank.
>Your party starts in a Train
>Your party has no idea what a Train is
>All you know is that the room you are in, some kind of storage room, is vibrating
>>47997151
I know, but what point was he trying to make?
>>47997313
well, from >>47996762, the major works listed are TES, Riddick, and a character from shawshank, and google tells me, a Heinlein novel.
The comeback, >>47996949, names Shawshank, which had already been excluded.
It's akin to asking someone to name an excellent series of fantasy novels, exclusing Conan because it's obvious, and getting told Conan anyway.
The better question is: did the characters in Shawshank have levels?
>>47995899
>Not just asking for a pot of hot water and a cup like a proper fucking gentleman.
>>47995474
go back to /b/, anon.
What's with all the newfags trying to shit on any and all threads that have a picture that involves a person?
Or armor?
Or anything, really?
>>47995966
I wasn't new back when Nazimod banned me for a whole year for arguing against his policies around '10-'11, and I sure as hell aren't new now, nor is this the first time or year I call this faggot out on his faggotry, or try to remind people not to feed his autistic ass of a troll. Now fuck off if that's all you've got to say.
>>47997691
If you were actually against the nazimod you wouldn't be trying to board police so fucking hard.
>>47995399
Taverns are nice.
I feel that food fight is pretty much how to use taverns ever since I learned some shadowrun. Regardless of setting. Or genre, really. Anybody can have a food fight unless you are some kind of... quasi-real non-entropic energy being.
>>47997735
You apparently don't know the meaning of board police, and apparently you haven't a fucking clue about what Nazimod actually did. The retarded OP is continuously shitting up the board with vague non-contributing topics that never lead to anything, for reasons that I'm either too untouched in the head to imagine, or simply because he wants to post his waifu from some shitty dA comic.
>>47997807
Your arguments are almost exactly the same as those who supported and demanded the nazimod.
Especially the parts about how you have some kind of righteous cause against some mysterious phantom shitposter.
What I'm confused about is how touched in the head you have to be to have the paranoid fantasy that everyone who posts an image with a person who is drawn in it and a legitimate discussion topic is the same person.
>>47997807
Sometines it's fun to talk about vague shit you will never Talk about again.
>>47997855
>daily threads with the same girl
>threads all have vague topics and OP doesn't contribute to the discussion
>different people each time
It's fairly obvious it's the same guy each time. And what legitimate discussion? About what? Who's saying it's wrong to start in taverns? Does OP give examples? Does he provide an argument? Is there at all a topic to discuss here? And for the record: Nazimod wasn't just some vague no fun allowed thing, he was a dude who didn't understand what creativity was or how it happened, and basically just cared about rules: board rules and rules discussion, and he baleeted tons of attempts at creativity or discussions that typically ended up doing or facilitating something creative. OP doesn't do any of that. OP's posted nothing at all save his waifu and a few words to make anons bump his waifu for awhile. These threads never lead to anything creative, never will, and have no value whatsoever.
>>47997990
And it's interesting to know why people feel the way they do about taverns.
>>47997855
is just being a board policing cunt at this point.
>>47997996
Nice bait, anon.
>>47996061
I wish I had a fucking tavern.
Closest I have is overpriced bars.
>>47997855
Don't engage him. This guy is a weird troll, and it's best to just ignore people who seem crazy, because you'd be surprised how many genuinely crazy people there are.
>>47998065
Fair enough point.
He obviously has some kind of paranoid delusional shit going on.
On the tavern point, I think it's pretty cool that people are swinging around to non-ironic enjoyment of old cliches nowadays. I am so tired of people trying to make things they think are original instead of things they think are cool, which may or may not be original as a side effect.
>PCs meet at a glory hole
You figure it out.
>>47995399
There is nothing wrong with that. It is the best way for a party with new players is a simple way and provide a chance to learn about your players and teach them how you like to DM.
All the haters just hating for no real or good reason.
>>47998091
>more than one person at a glory hole
Are... Are the PCs cultists? Or illuminati?
>>47998095
I would argue that cycles of genuine behavior and post-genuine behavior are a good reason, but that is neither here nor there.
>>47997679
It's fucking summer
>>47998065
>>47998085
Have fun thinking you're doing something /tg/-related or creative instead of just being too new or dumb to recognize the very simple pattern at play here. I'm sure it'll lead to a very productive discussion for you and the board both.
>>47996752
>Questgiver posts bail, asks them to do a quest in return.
This right here? This is a superb, albeit simple and slightly cliche, plot hook. It puts just about any kind of party together, gives them a reason to stick together, and makes that reason questionable enough to be a plot point later on. While the basic options are explicit and incredibly straightforward, you can do all kinds of things with this opener.
>>47996752
>>47996494
>moralfag in jail
He's in jail because he has been banned from JUSTICE because he was too loose a cannon.
Now he needs to break out, because doctor evilak is on the loose and only his loose justice cannon can stop him!
Okay, the real question here.
How does meeting in a bar actually help the group get together?
What is the joined experience that meshes them?
>>47998242
Bar fight.
Or the town gets attacked
OR a mysterious questgiver hires them. They only realize later they were all hired for the same job when they all show up at the same place.
>>47995399
What's wrong with a CG Drow Ranger who twin-wields and has a pet panther?
CG Drow Rangers who twin-wield and have a pet panther are nice.
>>47998282
Not much, really.
All the people pissed about drizzt are too busy having their legs cut off from diabetes and other unhealthy 30 year old problems to be in your game, so you're in the clear again.
>>47998276
Only one of those happens specifically in a bar and not elsewhere.
Which, I guess, is enough. Bar fights are strong.
>>47998242
Being broke and needing a drink and a job?
The idea of the Tavern opener, the conception of the cliche, is that they don't need to have anything else in common. Rough-and-tumble types frequent certain establishments, those of Greater Means discover which these are and visit said establishments looking for Alternative Methods of Problem Resolution when the normal avenues fail. Perhaps rumors circulate through the aformentioned watering holes and up-and-coming Kidney-Stabbers, Spine-Breakers and Washed-Out Apprentices comingle their independently inexperienced and weak resources.
Maybe my answer is obvious, but I suppose I feel your question is as well.
>>47998342
It's how the Irish have been making friends for a few centuries now.
>>47996721
Good god damn that's a long torso. And I'm pretty forgiving of Eschershit
>>47998381
given the width and breadth of freakish humanity I see at my job, not that outlandish.
I fucking met that blueberry girl from willy wonka, minus being blue. She smelled terrible and had varicose veins and required wheelchair assistance to get out of the airport.
>>47995399
An Execution is fine tooYOUR Execution
>>47998381
What does Escher have to do with wonky anatomy?
>>47998381
torso is about 3 heads tall, that's typical
>>47998357
That may seem obvious to you, but it seems out of place to me in many fantasy scenarios.
Though it works just fine if you are, say, a team of professional criminals/mercenaries and an employer trying to hire them.
Why does everything sound like shadowrun to me today?
>>47995865
Stolen.
>>47998548
Thank you for pointing those out, I glazed over them because of spoilers.
And because I was interested in people getting bailed out of jail by a mysterious questgiver.
>>47998405
I'd be totally okay with the art if the legs were longer. Picturing her standing up, with her proportions as they are, is unsettling.
>I fucking met that blueberry girl from willy wonka, minus being blue.
Was she still chewing it?
>>47998480
Typical for real life, but cartoon heads can go bigger. Again, if the legs were longer, a la Bayonetta, I wouldn't have batted an eye.
>>47998470
Eschergirls, a tumblr about wonky anatomy in cheesecake art. Should have been good for a laugh, but it's all about how progressive and forward thinking they are for rebuking nothing.
>>47995729
The Duke's Arms
The Stag and Oak
King Malcolm's
The Gypsy Cellar
Shingleroof House
Cranberry Hall
The Hole-in-the-Mug
>>47998586
I think your problem is that you are an ass man, and judge the proportions by leg/torso ratio, while he is a tit man, and judgest them by head/torso ration.
>>47995729
The 99 heavenly punishments
>>47996930
>laws of The land
This meme needs to end. A lawful good character doesn't need to follow laws that he views are unjust, nor does he need to abide by unjust application of just laws.
>>47998614
Well of course. What kind of man prefers fake asses?
>>47998672
fuck, I correctly deduced your preference based on that?
I might be a WIZARD
You all met in a tavern. Everyone roll please.
Ok everyone except pc4 is hungover you all realise that it is now daylight again, everyone except pcs2&5 has the sensation of movement and pc5 you think you might be naked and have something inserted in your rear.
Gentle men you are on a mission from the Emperor himself. Who wants to try opening their eyes? In might hurt given your hangovers.
>>47995830
not >>47995572 but he dose make a good point that even if its striped of all imagination then it can still work.
>the priest's tale in the Canterbury tails
it was original once
>>47995850
have a drink on me
I feel, now that internet exists, that everything is cliche and thus that must be discarded when considering the value of a thing.
>>47998640
>A lawful good character doesn't need to follow laws that he views are unjust
I wish it were that simple. Sometimes, you need to follow a law to set an example, to say that "If even I, the wisest among you, will follow the law even if it means my death, then who are you to think you are above the law and are to question it?"
>>47995399
>>47995572
>>47995830
>>47998448
ok so instead of arguing about nothing lets make a list of alternatives to taverns
>>47998828
well, then you value the law structure of the land enough to act according to it.
Sometimes, even the most lawful and good of people needs to say "yo fuck dis sheit", mount up, and go throwing molotovs at authority figures.
This usually involves REALLY shitty laws though.
>>47998857
bars
>>47998828
that wouldn't be LG that would be NG
>>47998857
brothels!
>>47998857
Pubs.
>>47998857
beer gardens
>>47998857
Taphouses
>>47998857
The Wench's Wayside
>>47998862
>>47998877
I'm less versed on Socrates than the anon you're responding to, but you both may be in over your heads.
The only place this conversation will lead is into the discussion of "what is good" and "what is lawful", because depending on the frame of reference, Socrates was dedicated to Lawful Goodbecause by Plato's definition at least, you need a lawful and good society before you can have a Just society, but from a way that got him executed for "poisoning the minds of the youth" or somesuch.
>>47998857
A forum? Roman or internet, whichever works.
>>47998857
AA meetings.
>>47998933
there was a thread on this a while a go. probably gone now but this is going to take up more posts than there is a limit. plz make your own thread
>>47998857
>>47998448
festivals / parties / funerals
>>47998857
public floggings
looking for quests nailed to the church door
army (drafted irregulars / peasants)
>>47998317
I bet you play exclusively with casuals.
>>47995729
If it's a small town, it could just be "the tavern". Or "the place where you get disgustingly drunk, you slovenly pigfuckers. What, are you insulted? Are you gonna go find another place to drink? Tough luck, because we're the only tavern in town and you're all too busy fucking your pigs to open another."
>>47999053
I exclusively play with criminals and low lives.
Traditional games are not their primary passions, as they are busy with parole, drug deals, an INORDINATE circle of lies, and medical costs.
I guess they're casuals, but fuck it's good.
>>47996061
So?
>>47998100
Perhaps one of the stalls has a glory hole on each side and there's a merry mix-up. Then an employee of the establishment who dreams of bigger things comes in to clean up and whuh-oh, what's going on here?
>>47996015
It's not really subtle.
>>47999276
I like merry mishaps. They lead to interesting scenarios.
>>47999378
And in this particular case, four lightly jizz-stained strangers save the world.
>>47998857
The outhouse.
>>47998857
Police line-up.
>>47995729
The swan and pedo.
>>47995729
My favourite is a little bar near the magical university called,
The Wizards sleeve.
>>47995729
Tits&Taps - a tavern with strippers
The Bulgin' Cauldron
Dragon's Belch
Booze Clues
>>47998857
Starbucks.
>>47995399
Pretty much the same reason film classes teach it's poor writing to have scenes set in a diner/picnic/meal. It's a lazy way of having everyone sit around and talk to each other for a while without doing anything else.
>>47998100
There's a line.
Isn't that how it always goes? There's a line for the toilets in the women's bathroom out the door, but the men's room has guys flitting in and out like swallows. Meanwhile, the men's glory hole has attracted a crowd, but the women's hasn't seen action since nine this morning.
>>47995422
This.
Only spergs care where even if it is well done.
Even the most railroady of openings, being prisoners, I would thoroughly enjoy if the DM makes it interesting or good.
Taverns and prisons, are fertile grounds for quests, plot, and character development.
>>48001386
Well, you know, women's sexuality tends to be complicated. There's plenty of exceptions, but for most women it involves, y'know, various erogenous zones and sensitive spots around the body, the whole sensuous experience, being in the right mood. An effective glory hole would have to be pretty massive and at that point why bother with a hole? A glory blindfold is more efficient.
>>48001300
That actually really helps put things in perspective.
It's probably a lot easier to get players to engage in interesting dialogue if they're in an interesting place doing something interesting.
>>47995399
You have a pleasant attitude. I like you.
>>47998672
Me. As a general rule I'll take version 2.0 over version 1.0 any day.
>>47995399
Taverns are great. The problem with Middle Earth/Greyhawke style settings is that DMs make them without understanding the role of a food/shelter/booze center in a medieval setting and treat it like a nightclub then tick off the whole "Prancing Pony" atmospheric plot points for no in-game reason.
You have an easier time getting it over with players if instead of you have the "meet at the tavern" where a mysterious stranger gives them a mysterious job that they feel compelled to do for some mysterious reason, have them meet at Jim's. Jim's is on the outskirts of town because they have a small equipment maintenance shop and a huge stable that eats up a lot of space. Because Jim's is so suited to it a lot of delvers and sell-swords crash there in between gigs they've got a menu that runs from oatmeal to Beef Wellington. So much hiring goes on there that Dave (that's Jim's son, RIP Jim) has put a noticeboard so people can just post if they want to,but a few still like to hire in person.
If your looking for social company, Margie's worth every penny and has a permanent room but there's plenty of Merc Mice (soldier groupies) in and out but you're responsible for those rooms. That's not the company most are there for, though, as the main reason people are there is to form a company, get hired on to one, or just hire one in general.
I've *never* had a party complain about starting at Jim's.
Man I've always wanted to run a campaign where the players were running a tavern in a high fantasy setting.
>Being inspected by the guards since a cult has started using your tavern as a meeting place
>Should we let this half orc in?
>A dwarf drank all our ale last night how are we going to find a taverns worth of ale before the busy hours?
>Two magic users get into a duel and nearly burn the place down, but not before one of them animated all the tables and chairs and we had to fight them.
-seriously, it will never run because it doesn't appeal to murder hobos but I would LOVE this campaign as a GM. Players could keep finances on the bar and the adventures for them would just walk in the door.
>>48002841
I'd play that.
Can I be the Dwarf hunter who keeps the tavern stocked with meat?
>>47995729
Remember, when in doubt
>The Adjective Animal Inn
>>48002918
Not if you are going to drink all the goddamn ale.
>>48002978
What if I buy all the goddamn Ale first?
>>48003006
Fine then! But when the other customers get pissed that there is no alcohol I'll point them in the direction of the stumbling dwarf at the end of the bar!
>>48002841
So Recettear, but with a tavern?
I'd love that game!
>>48003041
>pic related
Bring it. By the Crest of my Clan and my Father's Beard I shall finish all of the ale!
>>48003069
>>48002841
>>48002918
I'll be the halfling minstrel who put more focus into dancing than singing!
>>47995399
>What's wrong with starting off in a tavern?
2 of the three DMs I've played with had us start on a boat
The 3rd on a dock
>>48002841
Could I be the bouncer sharpshooter with a crossbow the size of a small ballista?
>>48004584
Why not just use an actual ballista?
>>47999615
Excellent suggestion and taste.
>>47995729
The Winking Mare
>>47998672
>liking fake tits without nipples and excrete shit from between them
This is your choice.
>>48004959
It's a mediocre movie beyond the twist, which was pretty stupid and only works once.
>>48003777
Why does she have to be so cute?
>>47995729
The Toppled Tippler
>>47996669
>>Tiefling as the sweet girl waiting back home
I dig it.
>>47996585
>>GMPC Emperor decides you're useful to his order to assassins and bodyguards
>Is never seen during all of the campaign
>>GMPC Emperor needs to flee through an escape tunnel in your cell
>Is assassinated at the end of the introductory session
>>GMPC dragon disrupts the execution
>Is an ennemy you'll have to kill later
I don't think GMPC means what you think it means.
>>47998857
Inns
>>47998857
gentlemen clubs
>>48005015
Good man.
>>47999053
Yes.
We'rehaving fun
>>47998706
I think I'm gonna start my next Dark Herest campaign like that.
>>47995399
Starting off a campaign in a Tavern isn't wrong, per sé. It's more that starting off this way usually is the platform for your group to come together while having no general common ground.
"Four strangers meeting in a tavern and decide they're going to be buisiness partners dedicated to vaguely defined endgoals" leaves enough space for individual characters to be designed completely contrarian to the group's dynamic, such as the Lawful Paladin on his quest to save the princess in the group of loothoarding murderhobos or the edgy cunt with the nervous triggerfinger in a group of dedicated vigilantes setting out to end the demon king's advance.
In other words: A tavern or an inn for that matter can be a great place to start because these places are actually stocked and built to support wandering adventurers, but without proper DM guidance _before_ the group meets at this place leads to inconsistent and potentially counterproductive character creation that will inevitably cause problems if you're looking for good chemistry.
Reminds me, wasn't there a thread long ago about a tavern (or was it an inn?) manned by a lich?
There's something about the PCs running errands for the lich, iirc
>>48006153
The only appropriate answer.
>>47995399
>You all start in a tavern
>The tavern is flying through the air one mile above the ground
>If you can't convince it to land, you will have to wait for it to make its regular beer and pretzels raid on a small farming village
>>47998995
ooh I like funeral. writing that one down. might be interesting if I have each of the PCs explain how their character knew the deceased.
>>48006229
Mission accomplished.
>>48005532
It's either tiny and cute, or short and fat. You got a problem with cute?
>>47995399
>You all begin in vastly different areas of the city given your professions and we're going to spend the first two sessions railroading you all into the same room
Yeah. Nothing wrong with a "You're here, who cares why" start. Unless your players love sitting silently for hours while each one navigates to some contrived plot garden
>>47995729
>pick filthy commoner name for Bartender
>add 's
English: Real simple.
>>48001386
Elder people wake up so early...
>>47995399
Nothing at all. The one time I had a small group bitch about it I made it a brothel filled with manwhores that were magically compelled to not leave them alone.
They stopped bitcbing afterwards.
>>47998857
>ok so instead of arguing about nothing lets make a list of alternatives to taverns
They dont meet itself because they dont have magnetic power.
Each player start at a different place and do whateaver the fuck their characters would be that I am almost sure wouldnt lead to meeting other characters
>>48007683
>might be interesting if I have each of the PCs explain how their character knew the deceased.
Read Carrion Crown.
Not only does it require you to have a reason to attend the funeral, the AP expects each character to give a speech in the first session how they knew the dead guy.
