Infinity is a 28mm scale skirmish game by Corvus Belli and an upcoming RPG by Modiphus where fun and tactical play meets the best models in the industry, but all releases are a month late.
>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php
>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/
>Rules wiki:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page
>New Official Army Builder:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/
>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/
>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/
>N3 Reverse Index Web App (a bit outdated as of HSN3 but still a bit viable to look at)
http://n3index.bastian-dornauf.de/
>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc
>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ
>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf
>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446
>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8
>The Economically Questionable RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game
>The Actual Faction Poll
http://strawpoll.me/5146634
>Scans (More Needed):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a6nel34mw0la3bb/Infinity+1st+edition+Rulebook.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wd3pbtpjp5w9dig/Infinity+-+Corvus+Belli+S.L.L.+-+Human+Sphere.pdf
>Character Creation
http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/
Previous Thread: >>47919807
>>47966847
I love the look of the new Wu Ming team. Them and the new murder transformer really make me want to play iss.
>>47966889
9 (+more in the future?) models of them does seem a bit on the overkill side though.
>>47967592
10, most likely. I'd put my money on them bringing out a solo boarding shotgun model.
>>47966847
I wanna see >>47966889
I hope we see a least the the concept art for the Tohaa commando unit.
Wrapped up my final league game today and it went pretty well. Ended up winning v. the guy who got best general overall, thanks in large part to a surprise Anathematics wiping out 4/5 of his link team with one plasma rifle burst. Six saves will kill a lot of things. My overall standing in the league was pretty meh but it felt good to get that last win. Probably going to switch it up and play Hassassin next league.
>>47969043
I'm always curious to see lists. Got yours?
>>47969055
My list was:
GROUP 1
Spec Ops
Nexus Hacker LT
R Drone
Unidron FO
Unidron FO
Unidron FO
Zerat FO
Sogarat (Feuerbach)
Doctor Worm
Slave Drone
Slave Drone
Q-Drone (HMG)
GROUP 2
Anathematics hacker
The mission was the train rescue mission from Dire Foes. Anathematics and Sogarat in one list is getting pretty greedy, but since this was the last league game I decided to just fuck around and make a fun list.
>>47969097
I wouldn't say a Soggy and Ana is that greedy, as long as the rest of your list isn't too expensive. They have different jobs.
Is the spec ops free or something? Those costs don't add up.
I wouldn't use the Zerat in its current state, at least not in vanilla. It's way overpriced for a mimetism unit, shotguns are nice but the Shrouded FO is still far superior.
>>47969244
Yea, the spec-ops was free in our league. The Zerat has been sort of lukewarm for me, I've been experimenting with her to see if I'd like to take her much in the future.
That Foxtrot girl-lean
FFS
This weeb game is much worse than 40k by far. Just the facts that a single unit can take all the movement is retarded. How the fuck does that translate to real life? Everyone stands around while one guy shoots and moves? Bullshit
>>47969412
More like lean-trot.
>>47969480
>How the fuck does that translate to real life?
>40k
kek. Overall, I'd give the post a 5/10. Not gr8 b8, but not bad either.
Speaking of 40k, does anyone know of fan efforts to rebalance the game so it isn't a complete fucking failed abortion? Turning it into a decent game could be a worthy cause, and there are Warhammer fans dedicated and crazy enough to do something like that.
>>47969480
your batifu needs work
>also 40k
this game is both better and cheaper.
New Khawarij box shortly?
From what I can see in this though it isn't all Khawarij. Seems like, from left to right:
Khawarij, Muyib, ???, Khawarij, Al Hawwa(?)
>>47969741
Please be haqqislam starter :D
>>47968579
Would be nice if they had a double/Duo blister with reworked shotgun and chain-rifle extra I suppose.
>>47969870
>>47969741
It should be the new Haqq starter (third oldest after vanilla YJ and Ariadna), although why only 5 sils instead of 6 is the question.
>>47969741
It's a starter, and Khawarijs aren't exactly line troops. Only 5 people in the picture though, which is interesting. Either there's a troop they don't want to reveal for some reason, or the 6th guy is a Tuareg and they're just being clever.
Haqq needs more distinctive silhouettes. The YJ units were easy to identify, but these fuckers could be anyone.
>>47969888
You mean a combi rifle? There's already a chain rifle in the box, 2 would be overdoing it.
>>47969919
Come to think of it, isn't one of the reworked models a shotgun user as it is? But yeah, I guess a rifle model (with mines?) could do as well. No idea if the MR+whatever launcher would see a lot of use though.
Also, that trenchcoated sil could be the Tuareg for all we know.
>>47969919
It's more likely they didn't feel the need to complicate it with a 3rd Ghlam. You can see the two Ghulam sils match the dossier and the Khajit matches the new dossier as well. Only the 3rd and 4th are mysteries.
>>47969982
>isn't one of the reworked models a shotgun user as it is?
Apparently, yes. A rifle blister of some kind is quite likely, then. As it stands none of the new guys have actual rifles.
MULTI rifle+LGL is great. They're a good spec fire platform that cost no SWC, and MULTI rifles are generally fantastic weapons. The nimbus LGL is shit though.
>>47969983
They complicated the YJ one with a third Zhanshi. It's just strange that they didn't include a 6th unit here.
>>47969480
>How the fuck does that translate to real life?
"Cover me, I'm going in!"
>>47969741
Starters usually go with three line troops, one "support", one "skirmisher" and one "heavy hitter".
We know the LI will most likely be Ghulam and there's a Khawarij in there, but I don't know which category it fits in. Tuareg would be a fit for a skirmisher though.
So, 3 Ghulams, Khawarij, Tuareg... Ayyar?
>>47970230
None of these guys scream heavy infantry.
>>47970281
Ayyar is literally heavy infantry.
>>47970308
and he's saying none of them look like HI
>>47970308
Possible, but I doubt a holo2 unit will be featured as a starter set unit. Maybe Asawira? Since the HI unit from the starters tend to be a Lt candidate.
>>47970347
I'd rather see a retread of the old starter. The lack of HI was kinda interesting. Just replace the hunzakut with a taureg.
>>47970312
Oh. That's true, but Ayyar seems to be a pretty lightweight HI. I'm betting the one on the far left is the Khawarij, since it's in exactly the same pose as the dossier. One of them may be a Zhayedan, we've got no idea what they look like so they're a wildcard.
>>47970308
You don't scream reading comprehension.
>>47970408
It would be silly not to use this as an opportunity to redo the Tuareg and Djan.
>>47969741
I love how Haqq is a blatant fantasy of the people of the middle east ever stop killing each other over stupid bullshit.
>>47970387
IIRC, the old/current vanilla Haqq starter included a Janni. Also, the Asawira is a HQ unit, which would be an appropriate counterpart to the Hsien in the new YJ vanilla starter I guess.
>>47970619
Those Kum fellas seem perfectly content to murder fellow Haqqislamites due to 'reasons'.
Is it me, or are us Infinity players becoming a bit snobbish towards other games?
I mean, you'll always hear us going on about how Infinity's models shit on everything else, and how our game is superior to others. Did that stem from anywhere? Or that just us being elitist?
>>47970619
Now they've just switched to killing everybody else over stupid bullshit. One of their sectorials is made up of assassins, and the other is filled to the brim with plausibly deniable assets like pirates and mercenaries. They're about as humanist as PanO is democratic.
>>47970776
That's 4chan community to you.
>>47970898
>That's 4chan community to you.
That's pretty much par for the course, but I've noticed it a bit on the official forums and such, too. It can't be just us faggots, right?
>>47970932
Its nerds in general. Most are pretty shitty people, theyre nerds because no one else will accept them
>>47970932
The forums are pretty cancerous in general. Besides, it's a forum based around one game, if you post regularly on it you probably like it more than other games. Shit talking the competition is a common way of making someone feel better about their favourite product.
>>47966847
what do you hope to be revealed at gencon for your factions lad?
>>47971355
New Thorakitais.
>>47970776
Have you even seen our Warmahordes threads?
This is nothing.
>>47971355
Haqq starter that hopefully is the Al Medinat Caluphate and Khawariji box. So I can pull a Tarik Mansuri and Khawariji link team or Tarik and Khawariji Haris.
>>47971355
Black Friar and SWAST sculpt previews, if not actual models.
>>47971355
concept for Tohaa commandos and the regening officer unit. Maybe a hint of what the theme of what the first sectorial for them will be
>>47971543
Oh yeah that's right they got more weapons
Just played against my friend with the Icestorm box, me panO and him as Nomad. dis shit is fuckin good m8, we are totally hooked
>>47969741
This is the only ghulam dossier I could find, but she matches the gal on the right
>>47972179
And they currently have few sculpts with bad availability.
>>47971355
A Yu Jing vs Haqqislam faction box
>>47973432
If it's another Op:IS style box, then I really look forward to the exclusive minis
>>47972256
Join us Anon, and then you can also get mad at all the crits.
>>47973771
>he takes out all my guys
>only my orc LT left
>Orc wipes out his entire squad and kills his mobile brigada
>die to Alguacil crits
I'm not even mad, that shit was tense as fuck.
Anyone here around Luxembourg who plays the game?
Ded thred ded gaem
Anyways I asked the forums about their ideas for Cetus. Some of mine was a thin chain-like mechanical snake/wurm, or she wields a whip ccw she calls Cetus. What do you guys think?
>>47976972
She's S4 and has Guardian like Voronin, so expect some kind of big beastie. She's also a reference to some space anime that popular in Spain back in the day.
>>47977139
Yep. Andromeda from Knights of the Zodiac/ Saint Seiya. It's why she has shoulder pads and head band/visor.
In the show he uses a swirling chain. So Guardian could be that. However, I think the fluff says Cetus is a pet and and is stored inside her briefcase. So maybe something like Ravage from Transformers
>>47969741
There's a picture like this for YJ as well, so it might be a new 2-player box.
>>47972256
Welcome to Infinity! It's an awesome game with awesome factions.
Also I really hate the S4 silhouette for Guardian models. It's something I think couldve easily been kept at S2 but with an additional miniature accompanying the user like a tinbot. S4 really kills my interest in using Andromeda, so I hope the actually miniature is worth getting.
>>47977902
Same. I got Voronin, but I'm so reluctant to actually use his profile because of this.
>>47978026
At least Voronin is going to be hanging back and hiding. Andromeda is a Forward Deploying Specialist. S4 also means she's too fat to fit into objective rooms
>>47971355
Maybe confirmation what all the sectorials will be in the next book.
>>47971355
marauders 4-man box
>>47971355
Zhanshi or Keisotsu starter. A Haqq vs. YJ starter would be amazing.
>>47978535
>S4 also means she's too fat to fit into objective rooms
It means she has to crawl in but I can forgive that. Navigating a doorway at the same time as a briefcase monster is probably pretty hard compared to just walking through it on your own.
>>47980401
>Maybe confirmation what all the sectorials will be in the next book.
This, more than anything I want to know what sectorials are coming and maybe a rough guideline of what will be in them all.
>>47971355
Something new, not like new models. A different way of playing with what I have, that moves the game towards more narrative style game play.
Also moving the plot forward and destroying Ariadna, fuck that faction. Takes too long to play against.
>>47981660
How about not playing asshole Ariadna players or punch them til they stop being cunts instead of squatting the whole faction doofus?
>>47981723
Just venting m8. They're fine people, just analyze shit too much and take what should be a 40 minute game into a two hour game.
>>47981660
Like Campaign Paradiso?
>>47981660
Like the rpg?
>>47971355
A fucking marauder box
Failing that a fucking wildcat box, but that will never happen because corregidor needs a new starter
A new szalamandra? Would buy
>>47981660
Salty much?
>>47971355
USA Blackjacks and new Haqq starter.
>>47971355
Moblot Box or some chasseur resculpts
>>47984596
>A fucking marauder box
>Or Minutemen
>or Black jacks
>>47984730
Some Chausseurs would be amazing.
>>47984730
I doubt Merovingian will be getting a ton of attention until the lead up to whatever book they're included in, probably the one Acheron Falls. Even if they get some sculpts, what would you put a Moblot box? They've already got 2 rifle sculpts, a panzerfaust sculpt, and a sapper HMG sculpt. All they're missing is a non-sapper HMG.
>>47984730
Chasseurs might be nice. Blots should probably wait until the FRRM gets reworked.
>>47984730
They so need to redo all of the Ariadna Heavy Infantry.
Moblots, Veteran Kazaks in particular need some love. Line Kazaks as well if possible.
>>47984894
wouldn't mind seeing the non sapper HMG, but really we only have access to a rifle and a panzerfaust, as the other rifle moblot is locked up in the starter set. and besides, nearly all the models in the FRRM are woefully outdated. Not as bad as the line kazacks, but still.
>>47984730
CB is doing 1 new sectorial per faction next book, and looking at all ariadna releases (excluding USARF) it's probably the kazaks.
>>47984596
>>47984867
Fucking Marauders, Mavericks, and Minutemen should have been released a long time ago. USARF still doesnt have a single support weapon besides the Grunts. Just disappointing.
>>47971355
more fucking PanO
i want resculpted Kamau, or a new fucking support team
>>47984867
>>47985103
Gotta agree there, after the shitty marine (arm swap?? Fucking really??) And foxtrot we could really use a release that isn't absolute crap
Yesterday played my first N3 game. My local group has been pretty inactive for quite some time. Though we did keep on playing for a year or so after N3 was released. I had fun and so did my friend. Both felt like the game has become better, though it`ll take some time to learn. Most likely we`re going to be playing more often in the future
>tl;dr: 1st game of N3, the game feels better than before
>>47986545
The game is better then before
Hi, newfag here. I've been scooping Infinity since I saw the models the first time, looks cheap enough, fun to play and even more important balanced or at least rewarding in terms of gameplay. Only problem my LGS is owned by a former fanatical GW employ and all the local players are a bunch of 40k or x-wing spike players who wont leave home without their strenght D weapons or spam lists.
What arguments could I bring in to convince the shopkeeper (and therefore the playerbase) that this game is worth investing and playing?
So far the few answers I got have been "nooo, those miniatures are too tall looking" or even better "it wont sell enough to be a worth addiction to the shop (while age of sigmar boxes are still all there on the shelves, go figure..)
Am I just doomed not to play it or to gift half of the starter box to some friend and play only at home? Opinions?
>>47987030
>What arguments could I bring in to convince the shopkeeper (and therefore the playerbase) that this game is worth investing and playing?
That the game is balanced pretty well and thus everything should sell. Local Infinity vendor usually has to restock nearly everything with every shipment.
And you could try to scope out if there is a competitive scene nearby. CB is pushing ITS pretty hard.
Also if the guys sells terrain as well, that's a lot of stuff to sell to potential customers, since Infinity uses a lot of it.
I think that getting Icestorm and demoing the game to a few people, including the shopkeep, could be the best idea.
>>47987030
I mean people are irrational so it might be hard to actually convince them of anything. OP: Icestorm is probably the place to start in both introducing others into the system, as well as getting the shop keep to stock it. Just let him start off easy. Build a playerbase, then see if he'll stock more.
Figure out the basic rules on your own then try to get some folks to play a game or two. Eventually one of them will probably crack and give it a try and, EI willing, have fun. I think one of the biggest selling points of Infinity for me is that if you can imagine a soldier doing it (and they have the requisite skills/equipment), you can do it.
>nooo, those miniatures are too tall looking
??? 40K is heroic scale so this is a bizarre complaint. "The minis are too tall!" but they'll play with Knights, Stormsurges, and aircraft? Get the fuck out of here. But the persuasive route there is probably explaining that that's a good thing when there's only 10-15 people per side - keeps the action cleaner and makes for prettier battles.
What the hell is that.inb4 Blackjack
>>47987138
>??? 40K is heroic scale so this is a bizarre complaint. "The minis are too tall!" but they'll play with Knights, Stormsurges, and aircraft? Get the fuck out of here.
I know right? I do understand that the average female miniature in infinity has the body of a supermodel with long legs, ass and high heels, and all of seems odd, but in perspective it looks cool. Way cooler than "how cool" can the squat pose space marines with big heads in GW plastic range even look.
>Also if the guys sells terrain as well, that's a lot of stuff to sell to potential customers, since Infinity uses a lot of it.
To be honest, when we were playing historicals it was his own idea and yet I had to take the initiative, create and gift the shop with some low cost scenic made by me, or else we would still use some fucking Gw piece to decorate those tables as well.
>I think that getting Icestorm and demoing the game to a few people, including the shopkeep, could be the best idea.
I suppose I will, assuming I am allowed to. I think the player base kinda "smells" the stink of a dying 40k and Gw, even with all the precautions they are taking lately, but are too afraid the leave the old way for the new.
>>47987030
Talk about the starter boxes being super convenient, as well as the all in one packs with terrain, dice, rules, etc. The average figure count is low, as is the per army price, and the rules are free, so the barriers to entry are very low.
The game's quick, brilliantly balanced for the competitive players, and the sculpts speak for themselves. The range isn't that large in terms of required shelf space, either, so unless you're really operating out of a shoebox, you should be able to stock most of it pretty easily.
Demo games, or if you're really fortunate, a small event, would help a lot as well. I had to do the same thing to get Infinity going down here. If they see people playing it week after week, and see the excellent figures (for the love of god, paint your as nicely as you can), and learn about how cheap it is compared to GW stuff, they'll have to sit up and take notice.
>>47987397
>(for the love of god, paint your as nicely as you can)
pic related are two of the ones I own already (I like UsAriadna) for those interest in the color schemes, go check on google "the art of dead space 3" as the colors of the old SCAF uniforms should be good alternatives to the standard ariadna color scheme.
>>47987522
Could use some more highlighting (though maybe it's the camera blending colours too much), but not bad at all.
>>47971355
Line Kazaks
Keisotsu
How the hell do you deal with link teams as vanilla?
>previous casual tourney
>2 fun games, got a solid footing and good rolls, managed to win both
>last game. Guy had a Nomad 5 man link team
>here we go
>drop smoke on djanbazan, take shots at the only one not hiding, which had an HMG.
>All of my advantages do nothing as I get shredded
>maghariba manages to kill one thing before a part of the link with a missile launcher sees it, nukes it in one go
>any time that link team sees me, no matter who's turn it is, I die
I've come to absolutely hate link teams in this game. All the feedback I got from the tourney guys basically revolved around making a list specifically to counter a link team. Or run a link team (which I don't care to do because I don't care about space traders, and the hassassin sect feels nothing like playing assassins). Some said just avoid them, which is hard when they take a high position that sees a whole lot of lanes, most of which I have to pass through to get to those objectives.
Just damn frustrating.
>>47987699
What link team was it? There's a few generally good ideas like hitting them indirectly with stuff like mines or spec fire, or outbursting and outranging them on the active turn, but it really depends on what's being linked. An Alguacil team and a Mobile Brigada team are very different beasts.
That Djanbazan wasn't the best idea. You've got the same range bands, BS12 isn't the best, and if all the other link members were hiding then your smoke combo served no purpose. Smacking the shit out of things on the active turn is Maggie's job.
>>47981723
If you play Adraina it goes without saying you're a dick and a hack player. You need order and camo spam to even have a chance of getting a win
>>47987699
Fiday and Bashi Bazouk. Take one or two Muyibs Minelayers too and some Ghazi. Haqq is one of the vanilla factions that can compete against link teams easily. Heck even the Hawwa is pretty darn good against any sort of Link Team.
>>47987030
I feel similar pains here where I live trying to get the game going. Even bought OP:Icestorm and advertised at a couple shops to do demos and had zero turn out.
Doesn't help my schedule is rather shit (graveyard shifts, no weekends off).
Though if I could do it more regularly 40 minutes away is a pretty active Infinity community. I'm just stuck with a shit car.
>>47987957
well youre a fuckhole, im hoping youre an american whos on early
>>47987957
Or maybe you're just shit at the game
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>47987699
Templates, mines, stronger rambos, indirect fire, move + msv, coordinated orders.
Sounds like you just had really terrible luck if it went the way you said. Ever tried a kamikaze template?
>>47987522
Oh yeah, a team of figures painted like that'll look real nice to prospective players.
>>47988087
I can win with 10 order lists. You Poland spam people can't.
>>47987996
I'm proud to be a non Poland playing American. You guys should try having fun instead of win at all costs. You people ruin the game
>>47988197
Games, plural.
>>47988197
Im Australian dickhead, and im pretty happy that after Trump builds the wall they wont let you out of your country. Have fun with your direct templates
>>47988162
Thanks for the idea, it was a fun challenge. Any Ariadna players around? This looks viable to me, but I'd like the opinion of someone who plays the faction.
>>47988118
>Sounds like you just had really terrible luck if it went the way you said
Maybe. I'm beginning to suspect that anon went up against a Mobile Brigada link though, and that would complicate things a little.
>>47988237
You're also stupid. Poland spam means spamming orders and camo, not what country you're from.
>>47988290
Which is why it's also called Kurwa
>>47988162
Very few people actually play 20 order lists, and even those get shut down hard by some total reaction. I myself have never broken 16 orders even when I try
Sounds to me like you gotta git gud
>>47988358
You people are dense. I am good it's the people with huge lists that aren't. You're a border line hack with 16 orders. Win with 10 like I do then we'll talk about who's good.
>>47988435
Again, you most definitely are not, I get beaten often by a guy that runs 10-and-under ASS lists, likewise I beat a guy that usually runs 2 nearly full groups when playing tag-heavy nomads
Stop blaming listbuilding for you being bad
>>47988435
kek
>>47988638
Since you're fucking stupid I'll say it one more time. If you run Poland lists you're a hack.
>>47988118
>Oh yeah, a team of figures painted like that'll look real nice to prospective players.
A couple more, just to show. Anyway, are base dimensions important in infinity? All my models are on 32mm instead of the 25mm that come with the boxes..
>>47988274
Hell of a thing for a newbie to face, though, although the rest of the list would be pretty weak. I guess it's the usual Rambo problem.
>>47988775
Git gud, Timmy. Dry your tears.
>>47988912
Oh, shit, yeah, they look great.
Base sizes ARE important in Infinity. The S value on each unit refers to it's silhouette, and that includes a base size. You can get little cutout markers, though. Basically it means that strange poses don't affect LOS too much. But there might be times where you need to replace the figure with the S marker to see what the situation really is.
>>47988775
Turns out you can just put words in whatever order you want
>>47988775
>yeah!? Well y-you're a hack! Buh-because... spam!
Yeah well that's just sad, kid
You're just like that one guy in the forums that constantly makes threads about how using TR bots is cheese
>>47988935
thank you. Well I guess I will re-base them. (fuck me tho, I forgot to rotate that pic)
>>47988995
Get good and use 10 order lists
>>47988922
The only time I cry is out of boredom waiting on you spam clowns to finish one turn.
>hurh durh kuraw it's part of the game
Doesn't make it right
>>47989052
>>47989090
My god, kid, just accept you're bad
Have some self respect and quit whining
>>47989122
Stop hacking up the game.
You're probably one of those people that can't keep their camo tokens straight because you have so many of them.
>>47989122
He is just a bad troll
>>47988912
Sweet, Austriadna!
>>47989016
You don't HAVE to. Most of the time it won't matter. That's what the S stands are for. You can base them however weirdly you want. Kneeling, stretching out, etc, and the template has you covered for a 'regular' figure of that size.
>>47989090
Forgot to take your adderall again?
>>47989384
It's probably a good idea to rebase, though. Most units spend their time with their base in contact with cover, so having a big base could be inconvenient.
>>47989431
Ain't that the truth. My goddamn Szalamndra. That extended flamethrower arm looks very nice, except when it's up against cover, at which point, you're actually an inch back from it because of that damn gun.
>>47989457
Sally resculpt when?
I'm guessing 2017 when it's released as part of the tunguska army box
>>47987795
>The link team
I really couldn't tell you, I dont play against nomads enough to know their stuff. I do remember him saying that link team was more than half of his 300 pt list.
>>47987968
I love using fidays, but they just seem so order hungry, and the more orders I put towards them, the less I have for the Maggy, and from there the less I have for everything else to get up field. Looking into muyibs, seems like they would generate the same situation as a fiday, being order hungry just to get up the board and start deploying mines. However, I must have completely overlooked that they have viral mines before, that's interesting. As for ghazi, I've had a box for a while, and I keep forgetting to assemble them. I've been sticking with Kum for smoke n' chain rifle shinanigans, but I know I need to give ghazi some play time.
>>47988118
>Templates
Required me to move up field. I was pinned down from turn 1
>Mines
Nothing that had them. Are they pretty handy in a general sense? Like is it not a bad idea to bring some with you in most lists?
>Stronger rambos
My maggy got vaporized while in cover. I don't know anything tougher than that.
>Move + msv
You mean more smoke?
>coordinated orders
Used them when I could, didn't have many opportunities though.
What's this about a kamikaze template?
>>47989700
That seems the most likely. Apparently it IS getting a resculpt Soon(tm).
In the meantime, i have my Bash Brothers Gecko's to play with, and an Iguana that still looks pretty rad, and my not!Reinhardt Anaconda. All I need is some Blackjacks and things'll be great in the heavy metal department.
>>47990105
Kamikaze template is just sending out a guy with a template weapon, full intent to die, but take some dudes down beforehand.
Also mines are the tits. If you got solid options for mines or dudes with the minelayer skill they go a long way in dictating where your opponent can go.
>>47990105
That's Mobile Brigada alright. Heavy infantry link teams are one of the hardest things in the game to crack. The thing about them is that they're horrendously expensive. So once you crack them, the rest of the game is a mop up operation. You'll see people saying on the forum that it is hard to bring more than 1 HI in ITS because of the nature of missions and orders, let alone 5 all at once.
>>47990105
>templates
Ah, you see the advantage of templates with infiltrate or other means of mobility.
>pinned down from turn 1
Have a think about your terrain. The DZ's should be that easy to shoot from.
>mines
I really like them. Or killer Koalas. I rarely make a list without at least one 20ish point camo infiltrator.
>Maghariba Guard
Yeah, Rambos die in the reactive turn. You need to distract the enemy and tarpit them until your own Rambos are ready to go.
>Smoke'll shut down their shooting. And shooting at them with an MSV figure through smoke is a pretty effective tactic as it gives you mondo BS advantages if you also have range and cover.
>coordinated
Yeah, it can be tricky. Part of it is preparing. Good shooters that are high up and prone, or hidden behind things. Move + Shoot from a few guys at once. They'll get hit by one of them. Good way to deal with link teams. Once you crack them, they're far more vulnerable.
>kamikaze templates
As in, one of those 5-7 point nobodies that have chain rifles. Dogged is a nice addition as well. Charge up, knowing that the reaction fire will kill you, and drop a big template on their link team. Hit a few of them at once. A reduced or broken link team is worth a 6 point war band.
>>47990265
Or you can just ignore the link and kill the order supply. HI links are also vulnerable to hackers.
>>47990105
Definitely an MB link, then. No wonder it tore you apart. Those things are brutal, but their big weakness is their cost. 180-190 points is the average, and if he's packing a missile launcher then the link is taking most of his SWC. Hacking is extremely effective against HI links. All those BS amd burst bonuses don't mean shit if all they can do is reset.
Sometimes less is more when it comes to Fidays. Deploy it near someone important, wait to engage in ARO and gut them like a fish when they try something.
Bringing mines is a good plan. It's not obligatory if you're bringing a brute force faction like PanO, but as Haqq you should always put mines on your list of annoying shit to bring.
Was your Maggie taken down on your active or reactive turn?
>>47990285
The key is to get a repeater within 8 of them behind total cover. This will make them spend tons of orders resetting on their turn.
>>47990389
>Hacking is extremely effective against HI links. All those BS amd burst bonuses don't mean shit if all they can do is reset.
In my MB link I bring the tin bot and hacker for this reason
>>47990112
The Iguana is my favorite looking TAG in the game.
>>47990609
They're both very useful, but a good assault hacker will only be delayed. Carbonite is a fucking vicious program, especially at WIP15.
>>47990788
True. And if you make him move-reset 2-3 times it is well worth it. Even better if you have some gunfighters covering the corner, so he has to choose between resetting and shooting back.
It's me again. This is my first time painting models but I like how the color came out.
>>47987699
Hitting links with templates is great, especially in reactive turn because then they can't shoot back.
>>47992082
Cool stuff. What paints are you using?
So, the big question:
Spetsnaz, or Airborne Rangers?
>>47992552
Both
>>47992552
Spetz HMG is one of the most terrifying active turn models in the game.
>>47992552
Honestly, Airborne Rangers are probably the least appealing AD choice for Arianda. Spetsnaz are better for a quality choice, since they come with Mimetism and the ability to ignore negative mods from enemy cover. Para Commandos still come with Mimetism but are still the same price as Rangers. The only thing the Rangers have going for them in vanilla is being able to drop with a Molotov.
>>47992541
These ones.
>>47992552
Spetsnaz for killing stuff
Airborne rangers for pushing buttons
HMG para-commando also gets an honorable mention for killing stuff
>>47992552
Rangers if you want a cheap AD guy who's good at short range and has a specialist option, Spetsnaz if you really want to flank and murder dudes. I prefer Rangers, the ambush camo Spetsnaz are a better use of their talents.
>>47992552
Do I want to push buttons and negate large swathes of terrain through supressive fire? Then call the 6th Airborne
Do I want to straight up murderize cykas with a cover-ignoring boarding shotgun? Call the Spetz
>>47992689
Stealth and AP/Shock ammo is a decent trade for mimetism.
>>47990105
It's order heavy unless you're using Mutts/Kum, and it won't help you with that TAG silhouette, but you can just move around in front of that link behind smoke so long as you don't shoot and activate sixth sense.
Unless the whole damn board is open (change your terrain!) that should allow you to maneuver out of a firing lane and approach. Hackers vs HI then mines, flamethrowers, light grenade launchers, nanofuckingpulsers. You don't even NEED Muyibs. If the lookout has an HMG, get into shotgun range. If you have a Fiday, make it mines version or shotgun version and go to town. Maggie is fast, so hold her back for a turn two sweep.
>>47992781
True, shock is huge.
>>47992840
That varies massively depending on your opponent, though. Mimetism's always helpful, particularly if you're counting your lifespan in orders like AD figures are.
>>47992853
I would say shock immune and visors/template weapons are about equally likely.
They are both good choices.
>>47993275
I wouldn't be worried about Shock Immunity so much as the figure not having any real reason to use Shock. Against Tohaa, great. Or if you're shooting at a NWI or Dogged figure, but other than those two, shock adds very little to the average firefight. The template/MSV argument is a better one, but if you're up against a template, you're probably dead anyway, considering how squishy all the candidates are. Dropping AD near a template isn't smart.
Being able to put things in the ground can be very important. Lost a game the other day because my opponent rezzed his TO sniper twice.
>>47993385
Particularly annoying vs. Haqq.
>>47993385
And none of the attacks against it did more than one wound? The doctor could get to the sniper? The doctor wasn't dead? You dropped a power figure twice but weren't able to seal the deal? He passed all his checks? You never simply spent another order? He felt it was important enough to spend orders to get the doctor in position and attempt the check?
Lots of moving parts.
And I'm sure you've had more than a few dead figures because the opponent rolled slightly better than you. Maybe if you had mimetism you'd have hit with a second shot and actually killed the sniper.
Urgh there aren't enough Wildcat releases to make a full link of five without using the rocket launcher.
Would any of you guys get shitty over it if I used a Spektr with a boarding shotgun as one?
>>47993582
As long as you're clear and consistent with what is what I wouldn't care, personally.
>>47966847
I have to say I was really stoked when this game released their HaqqIslam faction.
But I was let down again, they totally messed up in writing the fluff and it's apparent it was written by people who don't understand Islam. Big let down.
>>47993689
Curious. What parts do you dislike about current Haqqislam?
>>47993689
It's not supposed to be like modern Islam, but a trimmed down humanist version more like what was practiced in Al-Andalus
What did they get wrong in your opinion?
>>47993689
It's hundreds of years in the future, in very Interesting Times. They have plenty of wiggle room for religious change.
>>47993689
Are you upset that they're not allah ackbaring all over the Human Sphere, or are you upset that they're not exactly like modern Islam?
>>47993748
The writers don't understand that Sufism isn't a separate branch of Islam and that Sufis either come from the Sunni or Shia traditions. They also don't understand the scholarly process by which the various parts of the sunnah are verified.
It's just sloppy like they didn't bother to do any research. Kinda just killed it.
>>47993937
Or maybe they just wanted to make it different with artistic licensing. Maybe they took the things they like and made that Haqqislam.
If I wanted to buy a rulebook do I need both N3 and Human Sphere?
>>47994136
The rulebooks just give you the cool concept art/fluff. All the rules are free online at infinitythegame.com under downloads.
>>47993937
Well the thing is over 100 years in the future and based around a version of islam that leaves all that stuff behind, just taking the Quran and some principles of Sufism
I figured it meant as if a sect of christianity decided "we're just gonna be neochristians, dropping everything that isn't strictly based on biblical scripture except for some precepts of christian mysticism" and became super successful
At least from what I understand, I'm admittedly not too familiar with Islamic tradition, but that's the point isn't it? A bit of an iconoclastic interpretation of a classic belief system
>>47993809
>They have plenty of wiggle room for religious change
I totally agree. The problem is they made some pretty basic mistakes at the core of their story with how Islam works. Including the purpose of an Ulema vs. a non-Sunni ecclesiastical structure, what makes hadith verifiable, and fiqh.
>>47994190
I am tracking on that and have downloaded them. But if I buy a rulebook for fluff and as a reference is all that in Human Sphere?
>>47993937
Perhaps a heterodox, or unified strand of faith was practised by a particular flavour of Sufis?
>scholarly process
Isn't the deal with Haqqislam primarily that the don't view the Sunnah as being equal to the Koran? Or at least, ambiguously inspirited, prone to writer error, etc.
>>47994136
Arguably, yes. Although Human Sphere is the expansion, N3 is the core text.
>>47994195
>principles of Sufism
There are no principles of Sufism. A sufi is someone who devotes their whole life to God and exploring tasawuff. They're still going to follow one of the sunni or shia traditions. So they'll still follow the 5 prayers a day but they'll do extra stuff on top of that. It's all part of Zhikr or remembrance of God.
>just taking the Quran
The Quran says to follow the example of the messanger and that's what the Sunnah is.
>iconoclastic interpretation
Islam is already incredibly iconoclastic. That's why the no pictures of prophets or God thing exists. To prevent people from praying to the pictures and stressing the point of a single transcendental diety.
It would make more sense if a radical new Ulema found absolute evidence for a new way to verify hadith (sayings that make up the sunnah) and found that most of the sunnah was unverifiable and dogmatic leaving people with a small amount of hadith all of which ended up being the more humanist aspects of Islam.
>>47994258
>Isn't the deal with Haqqislam primarily that the don't view the Sunnah as being equal to the Koran? Or at least, ambiguously inspirited, prone to writer error, etc
That's actually already, and has always been, the opinion of Islam. That's why you have schools of thought for verifying whether or not hadith (sayings that make up the sunnah are valid).
Rule number one to verifying hadith is that if it contradicts the Quran it's not valid. The Quran is the ultimate authority.
>>47994417
>Sufi
Somewhat analogous to monks, then?
>new way to verify
There was a new pseudo-prophet/scholar that started the movement. I don't have the core book here, does it mention by what source did he obtain his legitimacy? Or is it founded on the Christian Modernist perspective that gained traction?
>>47994458
If you don't mind me asking (I have no idea how schooled you are in Islamic Jurisprudence, and I have next to no theological education), could you give me an example in how a specific school of thought might vary? Are we talking interpretation implications of vague statements, translation variations, sort of thing?
Surely there's a significant amount of wiggle room about certain Sunnah, though? Stuff that brings new matters to the attention of the faithful. Stuff that isn't written explicitly about one way or another in the Koran. Are you telling me that the Sunnah don't add a significant amount of law/practises/specifics to Islam?
Even shifting the burden of proof from 'doesn't contradict' to 'near-explicitly confirmed by' would probably trim a lot.
>>47994136
No, rules are free.
If you really wanted a hard copy and fluff/art, then yes, buying both is the way to go.
>>47994561
>translation variations
This doesn't happen because unless you're reading the original arabic text Muslims don't believe you're reading the Quran.
>could you give me an example in how a specific school of thought might vary?
Pretty significantly. School of jurisprudence effects things like how to prayer all the way to the interpretation of Islamic law (or fiqh).
Also, even if a hadith isn't outright discredited there are varying levels of authenticity. So it's not black and white like this hadith is valid while this one isn't. There are varying levels of authenticity from 99% trustworthy to 1% trustworthy and everything inbetween.
>>47995265
>This doesn't happen because unless you're reading the original arabic text Muslims don't believe you're reading the Quran.
Just a note on this.
While the claim is often made that things like linguistic drift or different clerical interpretations and/or simple rifts in writer motivation have not changed the Quran, this is factually not true.
This would probably qualify for what Molly was talking about. Very few changes in the Bible or the Torah have to do with actual translation too. Comparatively speaking, that is.
How much on average does a figure cost? I keep seeing price ranges from 10€ per figure to 3€
>>47995684
check out gamenerdz
>>47995684
American, $8 to $15.
Rate my beginner ariadna list guys? Its all camo.
3x scouts with boarding shotgun 75pts
1x Sas commander 2swc. 23pts
3x foxtrot rangers. 52pts
>>47995684
Between 10-15 pacific pesos per figure. Between 8 to 15 figures for most lists.
>>47995935
Needs specialists, and good shooters with more firepower. Some Tankhunters might help. And Ojotnik scouts make better LT's than SAS. The latter has to get up close to be at their best.
>>47996039
>>47995911
How many figures do you need to play the game (on average)?
>>47995265
>School of jurisprudence effects things like how to prayer all the way to the interpretation of Islamic law (or fiqh).
Under what basis is there such a degree of variation? Or to put it another way, how can there be so much disagreement on the validity of the fundamental texts, if the Koran and the translation isn't a variable?
>Authenticity
How would that work? Something doesn't help much if it's 'maybe real, maybe rubbish'. To make any sort of legal basis, you'd have to put it into one camp or another. Otherwise you're building a legal house of cards. Or did you mean authenticity depending on which scholars you ask?
>>47995405
I wonder about that as well. Kinda seems like a lot of Christians tend to find ways to avoid the bits of scripture that they don't like. Particularly the fire and brimstone bits. I wonder if Haqqislam did something similar.
>>47996073
Like I said, between 8-15 figures for most lists. You could start with 6 for the smaller games, though. Maybe go as high as 20 for horde lists. 10 is a good medium. The game is based around combat groups, and they max out at 10 orders. It's good to hit that limit, because those orders are effectively activations, for ANY of your units, but only the ones in that group. So you tend to find a lot of 10 order groups, or they go the whole way and do 2 groups of say, 7-8. Maybe you have a small secondary group with some cheap support berserker types if you have some leftover points after getting your first group to 10.
>>47995265
The way I understood it was that the founder of the Haqquislam faith basically said everything after Muhammad and before that point in time was null and void (for his sect at least) and that they were starting over, basically making everything other than the book itself invalid
>>47996226
ISIS sleeper agent anon mentioned that the Koran provides a scriptural basis for the Sunnah, though.
I guess if you could attack that, or demonstrate that the prophet didn't mean it that way, you could do what Haqqislam did.
Really begs the question as to why hundreds of years of what I assume to be diligent analysis didn't pick up on that, though.
Giraldez instagram post has him using Game Air Firey Orange. Smells like YJ basecoat to me, maybe something new in the works :0)
>>47996283
For the same reason why it's taken hundreds of years for catholics to get pope francis (and even he is still a bit recalcitrant) to tell them "maybe we should stop being assholes"
Religion is messy business, and I imagine a lot of factors play a part on people turning religion into what it has become today
>>47996360
It's Giraldez, dude. He's probably layering up to a nonmetallic purple or something. You might be onto something, though.
>>47996366
I was under the impression that most of the Catholic shenanigans was a pretty significant divergence from actual scripture anyway. They were more getting brought back into the realm of the actual religion.
Cutting down on the slavetaking or spousal abuse, I can see happening following a religious reformation. Deleting what must be the majority of the actual scripture is another matter entirely.
It's like removing everything not in the first 5 books of the NT from the bible. It's a big goddamn step. Particularly when the religion was specifically laid out on a fairly legalistic basis, rather than 'Wanderings with JC; a collection of tweets collected by some of his possible contiki mates, written up to hundreds of years after his death'.
I always had the impression that Islam's scriptural types were far less likely to totally fall off if kicked hard.
>>47996109
>Under what basis is there such a degree of variation?
It comes down to the chain of narrators and time-period that it was collected. So if the chain of narrators is particularly long and it was first recorded long after the prophets death than it's considered far less reliable than something recorded by the prophets contemporaries.
Also different Muslims consider certain sahaba (which means approx. anyone who met the prophet and became a muslim in his lifetime) more trustworthy than others. For example, the Shia only consider things narrated by the prophet's family to be legitimate (except for his wife Aisha who they're still butthurt at for the Battle of the Camel).
It really comes down to verifying the documents historicity.
>you'd have to put it into one camp or another
Basically the untrustworth hadith arn't thrown out, but after due discourse they're compiled as 'untrustworthy and therefore do not apply to Islamic law'
>Otherwise you're building a legal house of cards
Yeah, the Islamic legal system can seem like that for sure.
>>47996283
>ISIS sleeper agent anon mentioned that the Koran provides a scriptural basis for the Sunnah
That's pretty rude anon. I'm just talking about how the backstory isn't convincing because it's obviously an outside looking in perspective with little understanding of what would actually be compelling for the Islamic community.
>>47996226
>everything after Muhammad and before that point in time was null and void
Yes, everything after Muhammad IS invalid. The sunnah are the sayings and teachings of the prophet as remembered by his companions.
But, an interesting point, there's another group who has claimed something similar, they're called Salafists. (followers of the founders)
>>47996475
The thing is the Quran, the Bible and the Torah are pretty much the same book, except they add upon eachother
The Torah is the old testament, and both the old and new testaments are in the quran, which ends with a sort of "third testament" in Muhammad's writings, so the "majority of the actual scripture" is no different from the christian bible
What Haqquislam does is basically trim all the extra stuff tacked on (think of the Quran as being the US constitution, and the rest as all the other laws that came after) and replace it with humanistic and scientific teachings
At least that's what I gathered from the fluff, I have only had contact with the religion because of some research projects in college and a friend whom is muslim (we don't really talk about it though)
>>47996769
Pretty sure the ISIS comment was just ribbing Anon. I'm actually finding this discussion of Islam rather fascinating.
I can understand that it's a little disappointing that Haqqislam isn't as deeply realistic as it probably should be to convey the transformation of a worldwide faith. However, keep in mind that this all started out as a crazy idea some Spaniards had while playing a Pen and Paper RPG, so we have to forgive them on some level for not getting everything right.
I'm Asian and love playing Yu Jing. A lot of it is pretty suspect and some is even pretty counter to what Yu Jing is supposed to be (they brought the Qing dynasty back to strengthen a pan Asian and Chinese world identify? What?), but it's still really fun to play in a hobby wargame that wants to speculate about the future beyond the current western hemisphere.
>>47996769
>So if the chain of narrators
AH. So some of it doesn't come from his stenographers/chroniclers/bards. That makes more sense.
>compiled
That makes sense. Remember them, but know their flaws.
>Pretty rude
Sorry, I was being facetious. I didn't mean anything by it. You just mentioned earlier that there was a Koranic basis for Sunnah, so I thought it unlikely that the Sunnah could be tossed aside that easily. Outsider's perspective sounds like a decent summary of the issue. What happened to Haqqislam, I could easily imagine happening to say, Catholicism, or Judaism. Obviously they didn't know that Islam's scripturally structured in a way that make Haqqislam unlikely, at least as specified.
I assume they figured out what sort of space arab society they wanted, and worked backwards from there.
>They're called Salafists
They're pretty hardcore, if I recall. Ironic if they're using a similar 'back to the originals' philosophy that Haqqislam ostensibly preaches.
>>47996856
By the way, not trying to offend anyone here, just what I gathered from my admittedly limited studies on the subject, I know the explanation is somewhat simplistic but a lot of people tend to think that Islam is as far removed from christianity as, say, taoism, when in fact they are both pretty close
>>47996360
Would make sense if he is painting the Yu Jing half of the new starter.
>>47996856
>pretty much the same book
That was my understanding of it as well. Although it seems that each in turn implied that this time, it was for realsies.
>extra stuff
Except Muftianon indicated that unlike Catholicism, Islam is based on stuff that can be directly attributed to the prophet. The issue is in verification of historicity. The comparison would be to look at the constitution and ask if a given amendment was actually a part of the original thing. There were never any permitted amendments, just parts of the original document that for some reason or another were misplaced, or beloved to not be a part of the original.
Or perhaps like Shakespeare. He died, he didn't write anything more. It's more about determining if he did write this or not, not wether Westside Story is a good addition.
>replaces it
Yeah, I got the impression they were going after a 1001 Arabian Nights, Golden Age sort of feel. Exotic wisdom, trading with far off places. Wise sultans, but lots of intrigue. Throw in a bit of Dune as well for good measure.
>>47996897
The Sisters of Our Lady of the Knife have it a lot easier. It was explicitly a cult based around religious visions that may or may not have been mental health issues. No issues with verisimilitude or original material there.
>they brought the Qing Dynasty back
Well, time was everyone in Asia was a tributary state to the Middle Kingdom, right? Plus they're like the British Royals. As much symbols as literally being in charge.
>>47987030
>"it wont sell enough to be a worth addiction to the shop (while age of sigmar boxes are still all there on the shelves, go figure..)
Here's some insight for you, GW mandate both a blanket amount of stock a store has to carry as well as specific items a store has to carry to meet requirements to get reduced wholesale prices and access to certain products which would otherwise be "web exclusive"
Given 40k is still a strong seller in most places, most shops try to meet these benchmarks to make the most of their 40k stock.
That's why even though Age of Sigmar fucking bombed, lots of stores are still stocking it in high numbers, they are being forced to so that they can access 40k stock (and to a lesser extent fantasy stock) they want at a price that allows them to make a decent margin on it.
All this talk of religion got me thinking, would Corregidorians practice the Yoruba faith?
It makes sense to me, since its origins are in Africa and plenty of hispanic countries practice it in equal measure to or sometimes even more than catholicism
I know because I'm Cuban and even though we barely ever went to mass or anything like that I had a madrina and plenty of my friends were consecrated to Shango, Oggun and Orula
>>47997140
Well, Africa and a lot of other places.
I'd say they'd practise the Yoruba faith in the way that the Haitians practised west african voodoo, or the Jamaicans were christians. That is to say, as a part of some unholy faith gumbo creole that arose in the press of people and cultures.
>>47997039
>visions that may or may not have been mental health issues
I think it's pretty explicit that they were mental health issues. The founder was a delusional schizophrenic IIRC.
>>47997223
Maybe. Possibly. PERHAAAAAAAAPS.
Delusional maniacs: Getting shit done.
>>47993582
>not using the HRL
Why tho.
That 2 SWC is hefty, but a Wildcat link is what's supposed to do the heavy lifting. Good to have a long range template weapon in there.
>>47994195
>I figured it meant as if a sect of christianity decided "we're just gonna be neochristians, dropping everything that isn't strictly based on biblical scripture except for some precepts of christian mysticism" and became super successful
Like the filthy heret- I mean, protestants?
>>47987030
Get Icestorm and do a demo game some weekend.
Extra points if you paint it up first.
>>47997039
Bringing back those manchu scum is like expecting Spain to accept Moorish leaders.
Can you run a Haris with a Healer, Kusanagi and a Custodier?
>>47998044
All the discussions point to "no but it should".
>>47998205
Bummer. Oh well, Riot haris is fantastic too.
>>47987699
I know I'm super late to the party, but I don't think anyone mentioned Ghazi to you.
Ghazi Muttawi'ah are how you deal with link teams.
You throw smoke and move up under it's cover, you get inside 8 inches and then expose yourself to the visible model(s), if they dodge, Jammer someone, if they reset or shoot, E/Marat as many as possible.
You only need to isolate 1 to cut their +3 BS bonus and make engaging more manageable, even better if you can Jammer the link leader to break the link.
>>47987699
You had a 6-4 TAG with multi hmg, and couldn't position it to avoid LoF from the Missile Launcher?
>>47966847
I read that as Wu Tang Assault Corps and got excited
damn
Sakiels are the best unit in the game. Prove me wrong.
>>47999772
Sukeuls exist.
>>48000077
please stop reminding me
im retarded, can someone post the link to the painter?
i want to plan out a new paint scheme for my force
>>48000077
Sukeuls? For 15 more points, you get what? The option to take an HMG over a spitfire? Or a missile launcher?
Tohaa can take four total reaction chaksa if you want defensive stuff, or cheap spitfires on anything for offensive action. Sukeuls don't DO anything, senpai.
>>48001590
is it awkward to be wrong in front of so many people? Sukeuls bring long range high bs fire with mimetism to links, thats definitely doing things. They were created to help tohaa mitigate the +3 BS 5 man links get
>>48001590
>BS13
>Mimetism
>Long range and order-efficient gun
>Situational but still useful shit like stealth, d-charges and veteran
Sukeuls win fights, and that's the most important thing when it comes to offense pieces.
>>48001754
Truth, plus their fluff is awesome.
>>48001681
>>48001754
Stay trash, idiots.
>>48001878
Stay frenzied, Sakiel.
What are your experiences with Beaconland? Do you just spam specialists and baggage or is there a method to the madness?
>>47969554
https://onepagerules.wordpress.com/portfolio/one-page-40k/
Balanced and smaller.
>>48002657
I remember that from a while ago
Everybody hated it
>>48002976
why?
legit question
>>48003152
Not him, and I never actually read the thing, but I find it difficult to fathom "one page" anything being good
I think I'm bad at this.
>>48003356
You started with too pure white. Start with a darker, more muted tone and build up to plain white (only with the upper/more light receiving areas). Yellowish/grey paints also have better coverage. This kind of Highlighting and layering also works on other colors.
>>48002328
Pretty much. Coordinated orders are also pop.
>>48003152
>>48003276
I just read through it and my biggest issue was it felt like any number of existing systems. Nothing really to make me want to play it over anything else.
>>48004520
Yeah, many rules were just vague and other than the supposed shortness (which, I guess, caused the said shortcoming), there isn't much to choose this over any other system.
Have to say, that the cover art is pretty much on par with the digital schlock GW pushes out nowdays.
Me and a friend want to get into Infinity. I want to play Aleph and he wants to play Panoceanna. Where should we start?
>>48004664
Starters would be a good bet. Choose vanilla or Assault subsection sectorial, both should work.
>>48004680
Is amazon okay to order from or should i try somewhere else? I live in burgerland btw.
>>48004715
Miniaturemarket is pretty great. Depending on where you live it's pretty fast, prices are discounted, and they do crap like send out free shit on birthdays. Also frequent pretty big sales.
>>48004731
thx Anon.
>>47994197
Fuck off
So I'm about to assemble my first ever mini, a sepulchre knight, and it looks easy enough, except for these bunny ears. where do i cut? will I need to form the contact surface in any way after i cut?
also, I shouldn't need to score/use putty to reinforce any of this on a model this small, right?
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>>48003671
This.
Also, don't be afraid to just paint the lot, then in a few months time, strip them and start over. Doing this, as long as they're stripped correctly, is a great way of just getting constant practice.
>>48004831
The sprue ends and the part begins right where the end of the curved ^ shape is on either end of the bar.
It shouldn't be that hard to figure out, unless CB have got massive connections on those parts. just look at pictures of the completed model and you should be able to work it out.
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