What are /tg/'s sacred cows?
>>47900561
Nothing is sacred.
>>47900561
Generally, people here get mad when you shit on Tolkien. I feel that's the one thing most people leave alone. Bring up basically anything else, and it's guaranteed you'll get some people talking about how much they hate it.
>>47900580
Everywhan eez hereteek
>>47900610
There's people here who don't like Tolkien. That's the beauty of 4chan. Everyone hates everything and everyone and the system runs on hate. Yet it's still capable of producing ingenious content, more because of the strife than in spite of it.
>>47900610
You can shit on Tolkien if you find his prose a little dry and his world-building a bit masturbatory. There's plenty to complain about, even if he's a great author.
Like >>47900580 said, nothing's really sacred, not even works like Berserk.
>>47900561
>how can I get guaranteed replies?
nice try shitposter-kun
>>47900813
>>47900561
Is there such a thing as an anti-sacred un-cow? In which case, that would be FATAL.
>>47900879
>Is there such a thing as an anti-sacred un-cow?
A Profane Horse?
What one does with elvish slaves.
>>47900879
>>47900906
FATAL is for sure our profane horse, if that is the right word.
>>47900561
OC is always good
>>47901021
What? No. That's a sacred cow that's slaughtered rather regularly. Not all OC is created the same.
MTG
>>47900561
Casters in 3.PF, apparently
>>47900561
OP is and always will be a faggot
>>47901133
Tell that to the faggots that defend shit like Harem Knights or Towergirls.
>>47901173
But MTG is awful and anyone who has played it long enough becomes an awful person.
>>47900796
define "masturbatory?" his world building is impeccable. that's why lotr is such a classic
i can understand if you don't like the constant incessant descriptions of terrain though, or his prose top notch. i myself also found some arcs of the story near the last to be repetitive
>>47901299
The lore, the community, and the competitive metagame are awful; the game itself isfun
>>47900906
Bad horse.
He is bad.
>>47900561
Nothing. /tg/ is about roleplay, and that means a lot of putting yourself in different shoes. Different viewpoints have different ideas about what's sacred.
/tg/ holds nothing sacred, and holds nothing as worth completely disregarding. It's the most neutral board because most people here are willing to entertain any setting or idea at least a little bit.
>>47901285
>Some people like thing
>Thing must be sacred cow
That really isn't how it works, Anon.
>>47901285
I'm on /tg/ pretty often but I haven't even heard of either of these, maybe I just instinctively ignore it (or I have the tripfags filtered).
>>47901313
So, like every other popular game? People seem to think you can't enjoy a game because "t-toxic community".
>>47900561
Don't talk shit about Pratchett or Mouse Guard.
>>47901356
My implication was that there are many faggots on this board that will defend all OC no matter how shitty it is. Another example would be questfags.
>>47901357
Your newness is showing. Both were fairly big things a year or so ago, Harem Knights especially got fairly large.
>>47901395
No it didn't.
>>47901395
>shitty OC born of bait threads and /b/ tier "roll for waifu" crap
The only thing "fairly large" here is your ego.
It's rude to call her a cow.
>>47900561
People shit on Tolkien because they expect to much, it was prose for children, for his children, he build a world purely because it appealed to him. He created language because he loved the written and spoken word, that is it, publishing and becoming an author were afterthoughts for him and his estate.
When people bad mouth Tolkien it angers us because it is like saying the Model T Ford is shit because it does not have fuel injection, shitty BHP and can't do 0-60 like even the most basic of modern cars. It was often the first world we found, the first books we read and because of such the one that can always be imrpoved on because it is the basic level.
That and it is mainstream and popular now. Also fuck Moorcocks Epic Pooh essay, despite my love of Moorplots work, his argument that it is escapism and cliche and all these other things is true, it was literally escapism and a balm for the world he say around him.
>>47901523
>When people bad mouth Tolkien it angers us
The one thing we all should make sure to do, is to try to not ever speak for more than one person.
>>47901579
this will be a short thread then
>>47900561
Coasters.
>>47901304
I have to admit, as a young reader the terrain descriptions did sort of take me out of the story. I still appreciate what he did for fantasy literature and inspiration for tabletop in general, even if he isn't my favorite author.
>>47901660
This anon understands.
>>47901660
>>47902225
This joke was never funny, and what's amazing is that it's now even less funny.
It's negative funny.
Coasters. Everyone agrees you should always use a coaster.
>>47902343
This seriously is one of the lamest jokes idiots like you try to press.
>>47902427
Would you rather I ask if you take your shoes off when you go into someone else's house?
>>47902516
I follow the rules of the home. How hard is that?
>>47900610
Is it alright to shit on JMS, who wanks off too hard to Tolkien?
>>47900561
This is 4chan. Nothing is sacred.
>>47901395
OC games and quests have their own containment threads/boards so that people with less than absolutely patrician tastes/the hive-mind mentality can have fun and share interests within a community.
The fact that you feel the need to be salty about OC shows that either:
1.You are baiting because your bandwidth is powered by (you)s
or
2.You have a particularly nasty case of autism where anything that isnt "normal" or "to your tastes" is automatically shit and needs to be ranted/argued about for hours on end on anonymous forums and the youtube comment section.
>>47901395
Creating /qst/ was a terrible move for /tg/. While Quests are thriving in /qst/, the gap a good bunch of them have left is being occupied by shitty troll threads. Like this one.
>>47900879
>>47900906
Pariah bull? Unholy ass? Leper camel?
While pariah bull is fun to say, I think leper camel works better in print.
>>47900610 Almost everyone here at least likes Tolkien,
but there's a general dislike for cookie cutter faux Tolkien.
>>47901523
>it was prose for children
But if that pile of overwritten, rambling, boring tripe is intended for kids, it's even worse. The world building is excellent, but the storytelling is awful.
>>47903076
I think LotR's prose is WAY too dry. I've never been able to slog through more than Fellowship.
But I loved the Hobbit.
>>47900661
>Yet it's still capable of producing ingenious content, more because of the strife than in spite of it.
This is /tg/'s sacred cow. The concept that somehow dysfunctional fuckery is better than having adult conversations. The illusion that calling people SJWs and faggots is somehow healthy for the community.
Don't EVER try to suggest this isn't true. If you doubt it, watch the replies to this comment.
>>47903101
The Hobbit, as a story, is much better than LotR, but the writing is still less than stellar. I've tried to make it through LotR on three separate occasions, and every time it's the Two Towers that does me in. The first time I got about 1/3 of the way through it, the second time 1/2 the way, and the third time 2/3 of the way. Two Towers is where I start really disliking aspects of the story rather than just the prose. It's just a weak book.
>>47902620
But Babylon 5, despite its flaws (and some of them are rather egregious ones), is arguably still the best science fiction television series ever made. Arguably. It's not the only contender, but it's on a short list.
Fun fact: any non-literal usage of "sacred cow" can be replaced with "badwrongfun" and it won't change the meaning of the sentence at all.
>>47903149
Adult conversations are dysfunctional fuckery. This isn't a debate team.
>>47903264
That's not true. Badwrongfun is lacking the legacy aspect. Sacred cows are the accepted way of doing things and are so ingrained that people object vehemently to changing them on that basis alone.
As someone who loves it, Warhammer 40k.
The fans can be fanatical, they make excuses for it and believe that this site revolves around it above everything else.
Fucking hell, it made it this far without someone calling it and I am outright saying I am a fan.
>>47900561
If you insult Pratchett you will get your shit pushed in, everything else is fair game on /tg/.
Not quite a sacred cow, but a lot of people seem to get triggered hard if you tell them that narrative games actually do have rules and suit many needs that people have out of RPGs.
Anything that isn't a railroad must be a sandbox.
True sandboxes are a perfectly functional way of playing TTRPGs and if it isn't working it's something wrong with your group.
Every RPG thread someone has to say "we're not just here to discuss D&D" especially when it's obvious that the only actual RPG we're here is to discuss is D&D.
The fact that casters are the best in the game provided you let them have their pick of any spell in any book at any time during a single encounter workday is vastly more important than how classes actually play in OTB games.
"If you don't like it, just change it" and "if it's not fun just leave it out" are automatically the solution to every rules problem and any game imbalances this creates are the designer's fault, not the players.
>>47900879
Whipping boy?
>>47901371
>>47903596
fucking this.
>>47901371
>>47903596
Doubt most people on /tg/ has ever been in a fight, especially true for Pratchett fans.
if you must shit post you must spend the same amount of time in thinking it through as you do for character creation
denial and addiction
>>47904900
Jokes on you I play 5e. I can roll up a character by tripping on a random job-related item causing me to drop a bag of spare d6s on a class description.
>>47905243
Play Reign instead, not only can you roll up a complete character including backstory (other than name and gender) using 11d10, but the character you end up with is guaranteed to be mostly viable.
>>47904889
You seriously underestimate how much shit I talk IRL.
Now, if we're talking about WINNING fights that's a whole 'nother issue.
>>47900561
1. Stat/skill system.
2. Dice as a resolution mechanic, in particular, "roll over DC"/"count amount of successes" resolution mechanics.
3. Non-abstract approach to wealth.
4. Abstract approach to relationships.
5. Margin of success/failure.
6. Only one track of hitpoints.
>>47900561
Ollanius Pius
>>47903096
sure
>>47901523
the point of Epic Pooh was the Tolkien represented irresponsible and toxic escapism. i shit on Tolkien because he was a lazy writer and had a fucked up sense of upper-crust Christian morality, but i also appreciate Tolkien because of his contributions to modern fantasy and his dense worldbuilding.
that being said i am fucking exhausted of all the LOTR cargo cult'ing that goes on in our hobby.
>>47900879
>>47900906
What about Myfarog and the Gorean setting?
>>47900924
Sell to kingdom you don't like.
Encourage racemixing to destroy said kingdom.
Replace elves with human loli slaves.
Build glorious human empire by breeding said loli slaves.
Optionally use dwarf loli slaves if you are a dwarf, and build glorious dwarven empire.
>>47902516
I always take off my shoes. Isn't it basic ettiquette?
>>47901523
"The Hobbit" was written for children. I don't think you can say LOTR is a kids book.
>>47905942
About what?
>>47905942
The guy who made Myfarog is an ass, but the game itself, as I understand it, is just a chart-filled 90s-esque fantasy heartbreaker.
>>47901299
The most awful thing about it is the pricing and the way people waste their money on it.
>>47902343
The way I do it is I just have everyone bring their own damn food and rotate who houses the game.
>>47903149
>The illusion that calling people SJWs and faggots is somehow healthy for the community.
Not directly, but it's more of a lesser evil, since it's an immunising factor against the people who want to ban calling SJWs faggots.
>>47903149
I completely agree anon.
>>47903149
I have replied to your comment.
How edgy and contrarian of me!
>>47905967
I'd play games made by an ass.
I'd play games with an ass.
Games where everyone is an ass and trying to out-ass each-other are incredibly hilarious.
>>47906008
... I just described the entire ASSFAG (((MOBA))) genre didn't I.
>>47900561
Dorfs (especially dorf fort), Elf Slaves, Commissar jokes (HERESY!), 4e = WoW
>>47901304
The trees were flowing in the wind like magnificent blades of grass, the ground they walked upon was littered with fallen leaves, the trees had a unique bark color, one they have never seen before. Orcs attacked and died ring is safe. The river was a pale blue, the color of desperate maidens' eyes, the water was flowing over the rocks, and a peculiar pattern of white foam formed over in the distance. The sky was still bright, even though it was raining, and the droplets had a golden shine to them, causing minute rainbows to appear and disappear in a matter of seconds. They were attacked by a nazgul but they killed it, ring is safe. Frodo noticed some rocks of a slight gray color with a reddish persuasion which reminded him of the shire and how he enjoyed his adventures as a young lad, blah blah blah.
That is what he means as masturbatory, and I'm terrible at this.
>>47906030
If 4e was WoW then instead of having combat encounters, your characters would sit around solo and isolated while feats and equipment automatically flowed into them.
4e is more like WoW pre-MoP
>>47906035
Ah, you mean how I write my college papers, yeah, I understand what you're going for.
>>47906035
I am going to print out your post and masturbate to it, the part about the river being a pale blue and the color of a desperate maiden's eyes.
This Snaggletoothed Gobshite/Daughterfu
>>47900561
Your mother.
>>47900561
Succubi always have to be secretly good. We cannot imagine that anyone who wants to fuck us could be evil.
>>47905942
there was a thread on myfarog a few weeks back and most of the thread's discussion was the same old "did varg do it" (who cares) and about the political themes of the setting
but can someone please just tell me WHAT the setting of myfarog is
>>47906646
FATAL without rolls for anal circumcision.
>>47906666
I've never played FATAL but I'm like 99% sure you meant "circumference."
>>47902299
>joke
bitch, if you wanna pay for refurbishing my table you're welcome.
>>47901299
>But MTG is awful and anyone who has played it long enough becomes an awful person.
Just like 3.PF
>>47906761
Have you considered trying to be funny?
A little effort can go a long way.
>>47906646
Pseudo-Scandinavia with foreigners being bad.
>>47906779
Oh look, it's eternally triggered bitch-anon.
>>47903149
Go back to the charop forums or the OOtS forums if you don't like it.
>>47906706
I had to run away from the screen and for some reason my brain identifies the word circumcision better with the nether regions than the word circumference. Yes I meant circumference.
Pretty sure FATAL would not be above having something like 'anal circumcision' in the rules though.
>>47906666
Oh look, I got /tg/ quads. With a terrible post.
>>47906790
What's funny about it? If there's something I'm tired of is the idea that you should tolerate disgusting neckbeards, living in squalor, spreading their shitty habits. Use a goddamn coaster if we're gonna play at my place. I'm not using a upside down cardboard box as a table like my friends, I like to have nice things around, preferrably without rings on them.
>>47906706
It's like you've never played FATAL.
>>47906810
satanic quads, too
>>47906798
Why am I not surprised that you'd be here "argues in bad faith."
So, is this the part where you try to argue how 3.PF is the only good edition of D&D or are you going to talk about how the issues with the rules and the balance aren't a big deal?
>>47906832
I suppose something like anal circumcision would only be done in hell.
>>47906849
Oh look, it's eternally triggered bitch-anon.
>>47906860
>>47906866
Oh ok, we're just going to dive right into "shitposting" today.
Pretty clever using your phone to get around the timer too, very nice.
>>47905940
All epic pooh is is a bitter whinge by a hack author flaunting his professional jealousy of a man far more intelligent than him. Pretty sad to lose to a dude with the prose of a dictionary.
>>47906881
I know you're not going to believe it, but that was a legitimate hivemind, which is the only reason I'm replying, because I'm amazed by the magic of the internet.
>>47906921
You can't really call it a "hivemind" with only two people anon.
You're giving yourself way too much credit.
>>47900561
GURPS, "dnd is bad"
>>47906977
Now it's just sad.
C'mon, you're not going to go on about how objective mathematical issues are just subjective opinions or how 4e raped your mother today?
>>47906961
Actually, it really only takes two to call it a hivemind. If you're waiting out for three people to simultaneously call you a twat, you're going to be shitposting for quite some time.
Which, I guess, you were going to do anyway, being eternally triggered and all.
>>47900561
>What are /tg/'s sacred cows?
There aren't really any totally universal sacred cows here, but generally if you express a negative opinion about D&D alignment or random rolled stats a lot of people get extremely upset.
>>47900561
>What are /tg/'s sacred cows?
Tolkien and Terry Pratchett really.
We might shit talk about Tolkien but most of the hate isn't directed at Tolkien but the fantasy genre itself for making every Tolkien did the golden standard with very little deviation.
Hijacking threads to talk about your very special causes. Even if they're not related to the concept at hand. Even if they're not /tg/ related. Every thread is about an individual poster wants it to be about, and don't you forget it.
>>47907084
Truth is that tolkien's golden standard is pretty much just the races though. Existence of generic fantasy is mostly D&D's fault.
>>47907084
Not liking Pratchett is an actual crime. It's like saying you don't like fun.
>>47907104
Hijacking bait threads and turning them into something wothwhile is an old /tg/ tradition, mind you.
>>47907030
Two people aren't a hivemind, it's you being a samefag, at best.
>>47907107
>Existence of generic fantasy is mostly D&D's fault.
Which is weird when you think about it, because Gygax was inspired by Jack Vance and the Fritz Lieber, who didn't write standard fantasy.
>>47907133
No, samefag is an user pretending to be another poster and agreeing with his own post, while hivemind is two or more posters replying with the same idea almost simultaneously.
>>47900610
hey i don't like tolkein too much. I enjoyed The Hobbit, not the other three books. I don't want to get into a massive argument, I just really don't like them. I haven't read the Silmarillion. I am a GRRM fag and I'm sure thats fairly unpopular here.
>4chan poster diversity hire
>>47907140
Well, original D&D actually used to be less like Forgotten Realms.
>>47907170
you might like the silmarillion and you might not. it gives you a lot of background information and context for lotr and helps to build up just how high-fantasy the world is behind the curtains
if youre more of a low fantasy kind of guy i wholly recommend the name on the wind
>>47907118
You mean an old fallacy. "Hijacking" only worked back when the bump limit was 100, sage was visible, and there was no catalog. Now, all it does is add some "points" to the trolls score by increasing the amount of replies they got, and encourages them to just do it all over again.
Just report and ignore.
>>47907159
Keep telling yourself that "argues in blind faith."
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>47907194
Oh. Look.
>>47907186
I like high fantasy, I just don't like how it tends to correlate with sunday morning cartoon morality. I think thats why I dislike Tolkein. Basically what I would like would be if Tolkein wrote the silmarilion, and GRRM or Rothfuss or something took it and wrote the LOTR saga with that as a sourcebook (if that makes any sense at all). I'll peep the silmarillion tho, I do love some autistic worldbuilding.
>>47907118
See? Sacred cow.
>>47900561
NO GURL SPESS MUREENS
>>47907380
>hey guise
>let's break one of the biggest features that define thing
>and pretend it's cool and has any meaning besides making spergs mad
Decontructionfags pls go
>>47907625
moooooo
>>47907630
>implying sacred cow always means something bad
>>47906961
>You can't really call it a "hivemind" with only two people anon.
That's been the static definition of a 4chan hivemind since 2003.
>>47900879
NiceDaemonette? Virt? Me, when I use a name? FATAL is probably our profane horse, but we have more than one.
>>47907639
im just fucking with you i dont get female space marines either
you CANNOT tell me there wouldnt be female guard though
>>47903318
>This isn't a debate team.
Cite.
>>47900561
plate armor and poleaxes
also , swords are less deadly than the metal chunks they are forged from
>>47906828
>nice things.
>doesn't have a tablecloth.
Rolled 4 (1d6)
1. The Great Cow Taygete. The goddess Taygete fled and transformed herself into a cow, with golden horns when the invader Kore took up her place, but swore to harm no animal in all the kingdom. Taygete overflows with the Earth Power and all the bounty of nature flourishes under her hooves. It's said the her flesh, if consumed, offers a almost limitless warping potential.
2. Beset. Still hanging there on the gallows, whining through her broken neck and crushed throat. The rope holding Beset is as unbreakable as her immortal flesh. All of Busiris was destroyed for the crime of hanging this cow.
3. Laili. The blind cow of the Unspeakable Swordsman, witness to the Unspeakable Sword. Taken up by him when he retired to his family's farms and finally mastered his art. If you leash Laili and blindfold yourself, she may lead you to any place in the universe (and indirectly, there she exposes the secret of the Sword).
4. Tri-horned Bibobu. A devil, an ancient old cow with three horns growing out from her withered flesh. She speaks cleverly in the infernal tongue and is attended by pale elves and imps. If you strike a deal with her, she might let you tear off one of the horns from her skull. They give mastery of the sea, the land and the air.
5. Cherti. A very gracious and well-mannered cow. Cherti may be encountered sick or well. When well, her milk revives the dead and sitting on her back will render you invisible to death and all undead besides. When she is sick, the effects are reversed.
6.Bia. Fear be upon you! No wall, guard or portal can withstand the rampaging Bia, and with one flick of her horns she can topple any structure flat. Legends say her rampage began when she struck down the God-Bull that had mated with her, and has not stopped since. Everyone gets out of Bia's way. Her calves, if they can be found and tamed, make for ferocious mounts.
>>47906472
Myah!
Wizards
>>47907814
>covering his beautiful table with a cloth
>table cloth stops water rings
Anon...
If I'm not mistaken (point it out if I am) Gygax is somewhat of a deserved sacred cow to /tg/.
>>47900561
'That Guy/GM/Girl' threads
Screencap threads
GameFinder
>>47900561
Dicks.
>>47907380
Lore in general is a sacred cow. "Once you've written a thing, making any changes to that thing completely ruins it forever!" Can't we just admit that bad writing is bad writing, no matter how old it is?
>>47907851
>he doesn't wipe the glass with a tissue
>>47907662
But... there are plenty of women in the Guard. I don't think it's really debatable.
>>47901431
Yes it did.
This is a weird thing to lie about.
>>47901357
If you are on /tg/ fairly regularly and can't remember towergirls, then you're incredibly new.
That's fine, but don't use your ten minutes of experience as evidence.
>>47907224
The silmarillion is about how the pure noble and awesome elves fucked everything up with hubris and selfishness. It's not really sunday morning cartoon morality.
>>47906798
Is this a meme now?
>>47905940
>Toxic escapism
By an author who had times had legitimate things to escape from, literally all fantasy and sci fiction can be classed as escapism to some point, toxic or not.
>Lazy writer
Created the most dense world and drafted and created hundreds of letters and notes. Incase you mean lazy in prose I shall remind you that the Elves, Dwarfs, Dragons and more did not exist as they do now, he was the Originator of these, how then is he lazy?
>Fucked up sense of upper-crust Christian morality
Now you're just grasping at your fedora so tightly. Give examples please, was it he telling the Ruling Nazi party to go fuck themselves when wishing for translations and authors notes on his ancestry.
Please do expand on your positions.
>>47903096
So your argument is this oversimplified, uncomplexed and simple work of fiction for his children and everybodies children is boring for an educated and well read reader?
>>47905957
The argument could be made, it is a heart a childrens fairytale book with heroism, rustic love and a little laughter. The first, and only, sad point of the books is Boromirs death.
>>47900561
Using coasters
>>47905940
>fucked up sense of upper-crust Christian morality
*tips fedora*
>>47905940
Christian morality is better than modern Islamic or feminist morality.
>>47909360
Better than every morality, the secular one is now so tightly combined with SJW shit that it is gone.
>>47909062
Yes, it's like "hi virt"
>>47905940
The point of Epic Pooh is that Moorcock doesn't understand Tolkien as a person and the entire essay which he updates every now and then is his contrarian shitpost bait.
>>47909562
Perhaps he should of focused more on IP protection and not let Polish translators create a better fiction using all his ideas.
>Pic related, a former bandmate of his.
>>47909622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88rLI5sN61Q
Quest threads. Good riddance to them. Except they still show up here. Quest players are like Furries. Ask them to leave, they don't. Give them their own playpen, they go there, and they still stay where they're not wanted.
>>47911308
Ironically enough, most of the furries here fucked off to >>>/trash/ and made it their home.
>>47909360
yeah, but remember when the church held actual power over people's lives?
>>47903149
I want SJW faggots to leave.
>>47911470
Thank you for proving his point.
D&D 4th edition
Mr Rogers. Also, in regards to Pratchett, pic related.
>>47900580
First post, best post is sacred, in this thread anyway.
>>47900561
This is /tg/, here we throw all our sacred cows into an arena and let them fight it out while eating hamburgers.
>>47900906
A horse is not the opposite of a cow.
Obscene manatee
>>47911463
It helped preserve millennia of scientific knowledge that would otherwise have been lost?
>>47913017
A noble act to be sure, but we both know that's not exactly a "get-out-of-jail-free" card for all of it's black spots on history and society.
>>47912616
A sea cow isn't the opposite of a land cow. Satanic Salmon.
Though I'm warming to pariah bull: >>47903020
>>47906214
Baconsweat is love
>>47907116
What if I'm just apathetic?
>>47914253
I don't think we could ever be friends, that is for sure.
>>47907116
I had fun once...
And Terry Pratchett is a poor man's (much more prolific) Douglas Adams.
>>47914347
That is blasphemy, what you just said is blasphemy
>>47914347
>HE DOESN'T LIKE TERRY PRATCHETT
>>47907116
>Not liking Pratchett is an actual crime.
I've been plowing through the Discworld series this last few months.
I hated the 3rd book. It was one giant detour to backpedal on "women can't be wizards", where a semi-sentient wizard staff brings feminism to a boys-only college because "the magic knows what it's doing" with a mary sue prodigy little girl who disproved me when I thought there could be no worse than the new Star Wars. Being preached to for something I don't IRL disagree with just makes me feel like you're wasting my time. The story and humor was mediocre in it's own right compared to the decent start of the discworld series, but mostly -
I fucking hate when social movement agendas start preaching themselves in fantasy. Parody, and humorous prods for relevant commentary are fine sure, but not fucking "strap yourself in for the ride".
My sacred cow:
Fantastic racism, fantastic sexism, fantastic 'whateverthe-ism-wordisforsexualorientationis'-ism etc.
I want /pol/ to stay out of /tg/,
but I want incorrectness to stay in my fantasy.
It's fucking fantasy, that's half the point.Video games are doing this too. Half the reason Morrowind was my favorite Elderscrolls game. Gives the setting some actual seasoning.
>>47913468
In the grand scheme of things, the Church is pretty smalltime when it comes to oppression
>>47916394
>The best Elder Scrolls game is the one that I played first
>>47916394
That's why I prefer the novels like Jingo which pokes fun at things without taking a soapbox approach to it.
>>47916457
Battlespire actually. And I think it's better than Daggerfall and Arena, yes.
>>47916457
Dunno about him, but I played Oblivion first, then Morrowind, Daggerfall and Skyrim in that order,
Morrowind has the least forgettable setting of the bunch without a shadow of a doubt; it's aesthetic design is a pretty key factor therein.
>>47905942
>gorean
is gor even tg or is it just middle aged women's pulpy erotica?
>>47913468
Please, don't start this.
It's the largest charity in the world, one of the most important intellectual and philosophical institutions, and has been for the last two thousand years. It's you who should stop trying to bring up the few black spots in its centuries long history when it's done more good for this world than any organization ever has or likely ever will.
>>47916394
>Social movement agendas start preaching themselves in fantasy
Get used to it dude, it will only get worse unless there is a change in the values of society. So far we value the ability to go in to either bathroom at the expense of long held civil liberties.
>>47907651
>Me, when I use a name?
Yes, whoever you are, unless you produce content and are actively discussing said content in the posts where you use a name.
>>47916506
>aesthetic factor
Actually, more what I remember is stuff like:
NPCs hating you by default
nomads with culture you had to respect
drug addiction ruining character's lives
xenophilia, characters and interactions
racism, slavery being a thing
marrying off a slave woman to a tribal leader
etc
Every game after that they stripped more of the bits that made people uncomfortable and put them in the background, then turned the whole thing into a carnival ride of "step right up and save the world"
I've noticed RPGs doing this too in later editions.
>>47916714
The "rides" school of game design is very prevalent in modern gaming.
Why go through the build up when you can just get to the meat? This is why you end up getting stuff like characters falling in love with you without a reason or people who agree so much about doing a thing that they fight each other for the sake of the massive epic battlez.
Essentially, you go ride a pony tied to a post on the ride instead of learning to ride a horse. And a LOT of people seem to really like this in their games. Shit's popular as fuck.
>>47916457
im gonna be real, all of the elder scrolls games are garbage
i played all of them without any of the nostalgia factor and just wow they have aged like milk
>>47900610
I see plenty of people shit on Tolkein.
Nothing is sacred on 4chan, for better or worse.
>>47916540
>So far we value the ability to go in to either bathroom at the expense of long held civil liberties
I'm pretty sure you meant water fountains and not bathrooms.
>>47908814
Been on here for a couple years now very regularly. Have no fuckin idea what that is. I'm not an oldfag by any means, but I would think if it were sacred cow Id have at least seen some memes of it. Monster Musume and Overlord are referenced more often, and those certainly arent sacred cow.
>>47912616
>manatee
>literally the cow of the sea
Anon.
Opposite of a cow would probably be snake. Small, legless, carnivore, aggressive, predator, cold blooded, hatches from egg, usually depicted as evil.
>> 47908650
That's weird.
>>47916610
I actually always triple check to make aure Im not shitposting when I use a name but no one gives a shit. Anon has a name on therefore he is troll. I don't understand the meme and don't want to.
>>47901357
>I'm on /tg/ pretty often but I haven't even heard of either
I know you're lieing because there's a tower girls general right next to this in the catalog. It's just fetish+1 stuff, I think they just have a bunch of art and no system that happened when a good joke went too far.
>>47911308
Unlike furrys, quests brought in new blood that was at least interested in storytelling and crafting. It feels strange now they're gone. Maybe I need a new scapegoat for why no one comments in my threads.
>>47907224
I don't want to start a big argument, but how exactly is LotR sunday morning cartoon morality?
>>47922389
I agree with him mostly. The evil characters are clear and evident. Smaug, Sauron, Morgoth, all out and out evil with no hard thinking needed.
At the same time there were the evils of men, corruption of innocence, Saruman, the ring itself was able to turn any good man evil. But at the end of the day you still knew who the bad guys were; wearing all black and trying to kill everything.
>>47922459
Except GRRM has exactly those. The Others are all icy and try to kill everything (and that theory that the Others are misunderstood or some such disregards both the narrative of the Others, their actions in the books, and their description in the Ur-Text).
Hell, there's tonnes of human characters in GRRM's books that are monstrously evil; the Mountain and his gang, the Brave Companions, Roose and Ramsey Bolton, not to mention Euron and his plan to murder his way to godhood etc.
A lot of the "good" characters in LotR certainly have their own darker sides; anger, bitterness, resentment. The Ring plays up these things, but they are still there.
It is clear about who the villains are? Yeah, but that doesn't mean that the morality is simple. Hell, the soulless evil of the Ringwraiths serves to emphasise the danger of the Ring to the heroes.
Terry Pratchett without a doubt, because his le ebin meme fantasy can have no flaws.
All /tg/'s inevitably offensively awful writefaggotry. People still vehemently defend shit like Love and Krieg.
Treating m'ladies like the enlightened gentlemen you all are. Try to deny it, I've been the subject of dozens of shitstorms for expressing a badwrong opinion or for just defending, for instance, some guy who was evidently in some BDSM relationship.
>>47922374
>Unlike furrys
hey that reminds me
one of /tg/s sacred cows:
>XYZ isn't furry
eg
monster girls
beast races
etc
>>47922673
A furry is an anthropomorphic animal. If it is not that, as most "monstergirls" aren't, it is not furry by definition.
t. a guy who only jerks it to 3d human females
>>47922749
>t. a guy who only jerks it to 3d human females
You need to leave.
>>47922773I also have a gf
>>47922809
She can stay. We'll need to know her approximate height, normal skin tone, and willingness to slather herself in various shades of paint and/or wear contacts.
>>47922946
5'3, pink, not especially.
>>47900906
Rape horse?
>>47922966
Pass, take her with you on your way out.
>>47905923
He's a cow now? Fucking new canon.
>>47900580
Atheist degenerate detected
Every time Dune has been mentioned no one said anything bad about it
>>47900561
Traps
>>47914347
Pratchett kept the bitterness out of his writing better and had more in depth commentaries about specific things.
>>47916394
>. It was one giant detour to backpedal on "women can't be wizards",
It's an alternate take on the "Lady goes to be a knight" stock-plot and also was his first book explicitly aimed at a younger audience - of course it's going to be a little heavy handed. Also, it's not like the status-quo ever changed re: lady wizards.
>>47916435
>>47916515
It's not like it's short on black spots. It has a patchy history, like any other human organisation of it's scope and history. Pretending that it's small time in oppression is a bit rich though - if nothing else, suppressing people who were Being Holy Wrong has been pretty constant.
>>47913017
It was also likely to have been responsible for the destruction of The Library of Alexandria.
>>47923366
>Pratchett kept the bitterness out of his writing better and had more in depth commentaries about specific things.
>There are people who literally consider this a good thing
>>47923432
When compared to other religions, other charities, even just any secular organizations or governments, it's really hard to take most criticisms levied against it as anything except fedora-tipping.
>It was also likely to have been responsible for the destruction of The Library of Alexandria.
Stuff like this. It's weird that you consider it "likely" when the largest burning came before Jesus was born and the second big burning was the work of a sun god worshiping Roman emperor.
