Legendary Werewolf Edition.
>>47877493
Backside.
>>47877493
So 5 mana huntmaster. Flipping into "murder a 5/5 or smaller" is kind of nuts.
Does it transforming back into human side count as ETB for the purpose of the pump? Or is it just on ETB and transform to wolf side?
>>47877614
The card specifically says "or transforms into the frontside". So it'll get the +4/+4 when it transforms back, yes.
>>47877614
Read it again
>>47877614
It doesn't count as an Enter the Battlefield trigger, but it does count as a "or transforms into Ulrich of the Krallenhorde" trigger.
So yes, you can flip back and forth and generate value with each flip. Like Huntmaster of the Fells.
Good to see they are still at it with lowering the power level of standard. I can't wait for dragons and Origins to rotate
>vildin-pack alpha on board
>cast Ulrich
>ETB trigger + vildin pack alpha trigger
>gets +4/+4 then transforms
>Literally a 10/10 brick flying at whatever the opponent has going for them
>More Eldrazi
I thought we went over it, but apparently no.
>>47877493
>>47877501
Oh boy... another werewolf card...
>>47877737
>summoning sickness
>>47877782
Last line implies a fight, not attack
>>47877501
Too bad the art for his werewolf form looks retarded as fuck.
>>47877754
I have a boner thinking about throwing this in my gitrog deck. I really fucking like the madness and delirium mechanics with reanimation shenanigans. I'm sad to see madness gone once we move on, it's easily one of my favorite effects
>>47877493
not as good as Huntmaster but I guess it will be a fine commander for the werewolf deck
>>47877754
>Emrakul, the Promised Shit
I like the creature but god have I always hated the werewolf flip condition. It's just so incredibly boring.
I think literally every other flip condition has been good, except for werewolves.
>>47877773
> set about the moon in a gothic horror inspired set when in lore werewolves will most likely replace angels as protectors of innistrad
> being upset about there being more
Get out.
>>47877856
It looks terrible for EDH, plenty of better options in RG
How is this mythic....
>>47877866
Oh, I expected werewolves. I'm just saying most of them are shit and nobody plays them unless you only play standard. For everyone else, I feel like they're pieces of poop. Literally every draft I play, 90% of the time, the last card to get picked is a werewolf.
>>47877894
I really love the concept of werewolves, and I'm a large fan of Gruul, but good god do I think playing them is the most boring shit ever.
Here's how you flip them: do nothing.
Here's how they're un-flipped: do something.
That's real fun, isn't it?
>>47877894
What kind of players are you playing with? Every werewolf is insane for draft since they're almost universally above or on curve creatures that become insane if they flip.
>>47877881
muh limited
>>47877873
Which is hilarious since EDH players were the ones screaming for a legendary werewolf.
>>47877754
why would they give the opponent an extra turn? the card would've been perfectly fine without that line of text.
>put all my resources into casting Emrakul
>finally cast it and mess up my opponent as much as possible
>I'd still like to give them a chance to fix it because that woudn't be fun!
new Emrakul is disappointing. someone convince me otherwise.
>>47877894
Yeah the flip mechanic is pretty garbo. I just don't like the color combo in this set honestly.
>>47877972
Because otherwise it'd be
>You win the game
>>47877959
This. Even without flip they usually pass the vanilla test as is.
But they are by and large boring
>>47877962
>limited
Literally the cancer that is helping destroy mtg.
>>47877972
>why would they give the opponent an extra turn?
Because it's CRAZY! XDProbably to keep it from being an auto win condition and taking over formats. Could also be that there is another card that interacts with taking an extra turn in the set.
>>47878046
>>You win the game
Sounds a lot like someone I used to know.
>>47877972
It's a chance at a turn seven thirteen that at the worst just makes your opponent draw a card to completely fucking his entire plan up.
>>47877972
Finally found some use for this shit. Not sure if anyone would actually play this though. Keep in mind, that you can reduce Emrakuls' costs by quite a bit.
>>47877972
To make you buy the original if you don't have it.
>>47878062
>limited
>cancer
whats wrong friendo? can't netdeck in draft? lol
>>47878046
Uh, just because you take ONE turn to control your opponent, doesn't mean you win. How long have you been playing? Fuck you people and your "Wah! Powerful cards are too scary and ruin the game!" So let's let MaRo shit out more and more cards that won't ever be used beyond standard. Not even in Commander.
>implying this guy isn't much better
>>47878112
Just another bitter constructed player who's mad wizards realized limited was much better
>>47878120
t. someone who has never actually used Mindslaver
>>47878112
I do great in draft. The problem is that I actually want to havefun [\spoiler] while playing.
>>47877881
Splashy and legendary.
>>47878134
I can't believe people like you actually exist. Like... "TAKE MY MONEY SO I CAN BUY CARDS THAT I'LL USE FOR THREE MONTHS AND THEN NEVER PICK UP AGAIN"
>>47878166
And you can't think of anything to stop Mindlsaver? Nothing? Then I recommend you play a different game.
>>47878120
You control your Opponent for one turn and then you get your own Turn. It'd be a strictly better Time Walk effect, except you get also get a 13/13 Creature. You win.
>>47878184
Our society is sick.
>>47878167
I don't see how this prevents you from having fun. You are probably autistic.
>>47878108
Nobody will since it can't be used in Standard which will be the only format the new Emrakul will ever see play unless they add more cards like that one.
>>47878108
>Side board against Emrakul
Sure.
>Use in a deck along with Emrakul
There are few greater examples of "winning more." Completely unneeded.
>>47878207
If you resolve Mindslaver, you win.
>>47878184
You can always build cubes
Guys, stop fighting! Every format is shit.
>Legendary werewolf
>Still no Legendary bear
>>47878046
At CMC 13, it might as well say that and still wouldn't be playable outside limited & EDH.
>>47878218
you are wrong. after you control their turn they get another turn right after. it would've been great if it was like you said but it isn't.
>>47878184
The only thing I play is sealed and casual and/or commander.
Standard has always seemed like a really bad idea to play casually.
In competitions and shit sure, though.
>>47878276
We're arguing about why it gives the extra turn. Pay attention, context matters.
>>47878258
I want a legendary bearwolf.
>>47878229
>here's some food. It's good.
>we could give you some better tasting food, but we won't. That food is fine, right?
So what you're saying is that you're willing to eat any kind of shit that falls out of Wizards' ass?
>autism
You can't post in a single thread without someone pointing an autism gun in your direction. It's like the Salem witch trials, but with children.
>>47878275
It will cost ~8/9 on average in decks that use it.
Here's the full art if anyone cares and hasn't seen it.
>>47878258
There are actually plenty
Have we considered Tron?
>>47878316
>It'd be
i'm sorry, my bad.
>>47878343
Nice! The art for this set is looking really good.
>>47878343
that looks okay.
>>47878276
That's the whole point he's making you dense mongoloid. If it didn't have the extra turn clause it would be "8-13 mana, you win the game." Wizards doesn't want to print that card for obvious reasons.
>>47878371
No worries.
>>47878343
MODERN ART REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>47878343
it actually looks pretty cool
>>47877754
Who put Dead Weight on Emrakul?
I wish newmrakul had more to do with clues and less to do with delirium
>>47878409
Do people actually like the old art? Some of them are ok but most of them are shit like this.
>>47877936
Well, there's always moonmist. Not in standard, but still.
>>47878446
The best art was objectively whatever set you started with
>>47878468
Agree. Mirrodin ftw
>>47878446
I dunno, those are funny.
>>47877881
Do tell me how a pseudo-Mindslaver stapled on to a 13/13 flying trample pro instants for ~10 mana feels more like a rare than mythic.
>>47878468
I started with Khans of Takhir and old lands look a lot better.
>>47878468
>The best art was objectively whatever set you started with
I hated new phyrexia art so I'm the abnormality
>>47878446
I say old art is better as in older art, not the oldest. my favorite was from Odyssey. check it out
>>47878468
Nah, Gatecrash was only okay.
>>47878461
With this effect in the next set, I almost expect a reprint or something similiar to transform your humans.
>>47878468
I don't have any real feelings towards Dragon's Maze art.
>>47878446
You just settling on one artists
>>47878564
He's just a good example of bad old art, which there is a lot of.
Like, some of these are ok, but then there's shit like Arcades.
>>47878468
>tfw I love Urza's Saga art
Fuck.
>>47878343
The battles pretty awesome, a shame it's cut off on the card.
>>47878620
>implying this is bad art
>>47878343
Looking at this, I can only assume that we'll have some flip cards of people turning into eldrazi. I'm ok with this.
>>47878468
But anon, Lorwyn/Shadowmoor wasn't the block I started with
Though Invasion has some boss ass art, some of it is kinda shit
>>47878686
>we'll never get flip cards where one side is normal and the other side is compleated
>>47878620
That's all descent art. Remember that magic didn't have a huge budget back then
>>47878682
I didn't say it was bad art.
>>47877493
Pretty Meh actually.
>>47878704
I just went to a mostly random section of Legends' card list.
>>47878343
Holy shit that photobashing.
Emry itself is fine, but the rest of the picture is a graphic mess.
>>47877754
well this goes directly to my Rakdos, Lord of Riots EDH deck
>>47878637
You. You've got good taste.
>TFW Playing R/G werewolves in a casual group
I'm happy.
>>47878873
Just play huntmaster. This guy is limited garbage
>>47877501
His proportions are so cartoony.
>>47878637
>>47878785
Indeed.
Also Lorwynn. And some of Kamigawa.
>>47878898
Yeah. /tg/ has been routinely horrible at guessing the power of magic cards. Hell, duskwatch recruiter was routinely shit on as "unplayable garbage" when it was spoiled, yet saw 3 or 4 copies in many pro tour decks.
>>47877754
Full art is really good though.
>>47877754
Literal trash. Cool art though.
>>47878778
>the part of of the art that's going to be faded and have a bunch of text on it doesn't look good
You don't say
>>47878112
>>47878134
>i don't know how to play against good cards, i must play garbage
>>47879008
It literally wins you the game for 8-9 mana. What more do you want?
>>47878998
So why are some on the non-posessed side wearing masks? I see at least 2 are.
>>47877547
how exactly is it a 5 mana huntmaster?
huntmaster makes wolves, this guy is significantly worse
>>47879029
maybe they think the deformations are like a plague?
>>47878989
I remember when Thraben Investigator was universally pegged as limited fodder.
>>47878989
You wouldn't believe how much shit I got for calling Siege Rhino playable when it was revealed. And not just from standard babbies.
>>47879035
He's a free removal every time he flips since most decks don't have a single creature above 5 base toughness.
>>47879028
It doesn't.
>>47879026
>I need the same consistent netdeck because I'm not that good of a player
>just built a super greedy BUG edh deck
>none of SOI's delirium was big enough to make a splash in edh
>see thisalso which of SOI's mechanics do you think they're dropping in EDM? They're all so good I don't want to see them go
>>47879046
I really like this idea
>>47879028
It doesn't win as hard as original Emrakul (aka emracool)
And that fucking extra turn is retarded
>>47879076
It's a free turn to completely fuck up their field and kill their creatures. Unless they top deck a mass removal they're as good as dead and a turn behind.
>>47878620
What I like about this stuff is its character. The cards don't all have the exact same hyperliteral style.
>>47879155
>It's a free turn to completely fuck up their field and kill their creatures.
Unless they have removal in hand that you can use to target their own stuff, no.
Also, they aren't a turn behind, but they do get fucked up some (probably)
>>47879112
Clues are out, doesn't thematically fit any longer.
>>47877493
>>47877501
>It's a "4/4 for 5 mana dumb value mythic rare" episode
The art is garbage, the flavour is fucking atrocious since if he's the uncontested alpha why can't he fight fucking werewolves, he's naturally going to be very expensive because of the dumb value on him, and overall I'm glad I don't play standard.
>>47879112
>also which of SOI's mechanics do you think they're dropping in EDM?
I'd assume clues, since Emrakul's popped out there's a lot less mystery
>>47879028
This wins you the game on 4 mana
new Emrakul is shit
>>47879187
>Unless they have removal in hand that you can use to target their own stuff, no.
Unless you only have emrakul in play and no other creatures with a ramp deck (if you don't then they've died to removal, which means odds are they have one in hand). Seriously, so many strategies completely collapse when faced with a semi-board wipe and wasted key spells on your own creatures.
>>47878620
Amrou Kithkin, Angus Mackenzie, Arena of the Ancients and Axelrod Gunnarson are all nice pieces of art. Arcades Sabboth isn't even that bad, he just looks like a gargoyle-dragon.
>>47879212
That wins the game only because someone plays memederm without packing a fuck ton of counters.
>>47879254
>Tendrils of agony
>In memedern
>Counters against storm
Nooblord
>>47878120
>Uh, just because you take ONE turn to control your opponent, doesn't mean you win.
Actually, it quite often does.
>>47879234
I mean, it is advantage, but a lot of the time it'll just be pitch some of their spells.
Which isn't awful, but it's not 13 CMC Emrakul good
>>47879212
Yeah, but you have to use like 20 mana worth of spells in a easily disruptable combo chain to get it off. FoW just got reprinted.
>>47879209
There's still the mystery of "Why the fuck did Wizards thinking blowing their Emrakul load immediately after Zendikar 2: Electric Boogaloo was a good idea"
>>47879272
You don't counter agony, you counter the rituals and goblin that lets it go off.
>>47879290
He'll consistently be at least 10 mana. Same as Ulamog
>>47878998
Why did they make that art when it doesn't fit the regular card?
>>47879296
>There's still the mystery of "Why the fuck did Wizards thinking blowing their Emrakul load immediately after Zendikar 2: Electric Boogaloo was a good idea"
That was answered during like Tarkir or something.
They moved to a 2-set block instead of a 3-set block during Zendikar development so they just shoved Emrakul to the next block, and she actually sort of fits with Innistrad.
>>47879312
>He
>>47878468
false
I started in Mirage. Masques has my favorite art, followed by Odyssey.
>>47879343
it*
>>47879378
emrakul's a she, my dude
>>47879378
>not xe, xir, xirself
Learn your bdjtbnskeb, shitlord
>>47879312
newlamog is 150x better than newmrakul
>>47878978
I didn't say ALL Urza's Saga art.
>>47879432
He really isn't.
>>47879313
But it does. Look better.
I know it's just tween shit that's only used once but still
>>47879432
>Path to Exile
Nice 10 mana drop noob :^)
>>47879441
>Hating on Smokestack art
eat shit, commie
>>47879473
>3 for 1
>>47879484
No, I was hating on Greener Pastures. I fucking love that Smokestack art.
>>47879441
Imcant hate somestack art. Its my favortie salt factory, still active in my Xiahou dun EDH along with Pox. Also fuck them for banning Braids.
>>47879521
>Also fuck them for banning Braids.
It's unbanned in French. :^)
>>47879542
Well since I only play with a group at home, screw french rules I guess.
>>47879291
Now I'm not going to sit here and say memdern storm is a thing (it's not), but looking at it from Vintage... it's like 5 spells. Ritual-Ritual-LED-Tutor-PiF-Win. You can obviously Force the Tutor or PiF after they just sacked their hand to LED, but if the player is too incompetent to play around FoW when he has 4-6 pieces of disruption and Gitaxian Probes to look at your hand...
Tendrils is a pretty amazing spell.
>>47878686
Agreed. I rather like the whole deforming into monstrous shit flavor we seem to be going with, a werewolf being twisted even further is scary shit. I wonder if each eldeazi transformed creatures will share that graveyard mechanic emrakul has.
Also that horses face splitting, Jesus Christ
>>47879504
>10 mana win condition get's removed for 1 mana
>I got a land though :^)
>>47877501
Uhhhh
Another white cis male
Way to go wizards
>>47879188
I would imagine there will be clue interaction involving some sort of solve mechanics
>>47877754
Fuck ya Worst Fears is coming back
>>47879688
And Karn dies to Hero's Downfall. We know, we know. Removal.
Lets make modern Eldrazi decks even more oppressive!
>>47879818
Nahiri confirmed a huuuuuuuuuge bitch.
>People actually think that new-Emrakul will ever see play outside of some frindge decks in standard at the very best
I bet you thought new Kozilek was going to be format warping too.
>tfw there will be no aggressively costed 3/1 spirit or spirit tribal fiend hunter
if you dont get your hopes you can never be disappointed :)
>>47878251
Not legacy
>>47879818
Could not imagine them printing a card like this.
welp
>>47879296
u r dum
>>47879818
What the fuck is this. Where did you get this. This thing is stupid.
>>47879884
Please leave SCG shill
>>47879818
Seriously, how the hell do the rules work with this? Does it have to be standard legal? Does it have to be with you? This card has so much utility that once one guy uses it to get into the top 8 every eldrazi card printed will momentarily spike in price.
>>47879818
This is so obviously not real, please stop falling for cheap bait
>>47879818
>>47879905
Source here:
https://twitter.com/KimberlyKreines/status/745018813620445184
>>47879818
That's amazing. Suddenly my BUG eldrazi shit show is competitive.
>>47879945
its from mtg's twitter dude.
>>47879290
>13 cmc
Only if you have a completely empty graveyard and are not working for delirium (which is retarded because delirium helps this guy get out 5 turns sooner).
>>47879933
Newfags please. In a sanctioned event, that means from your sideboard.
>>47879933
For sanctioned events it usually means whatever you have in your sideboard that isn't present in the current game.
For casual play it's whatever, grab whatever you find from your magic box.
>>47879818
How exactly would Bant Eldarzi (the only good eldrazi deck that runs blue) benefit from this card ?
Tutoring for a reality smasher ? It's pretty mhe, especially at sorcery speed.
>>47879945
you're so obviously retarded
>>47879818
Time to ban Eye in legacy/vintage
>>47879818
This is fucking amazing.
Based Wizards, just based.
>>47879818
BUG Eldrazis of Seasons Past!
>>47878468
Alara did have pretty good art.
I prefer Time Spiral, though. All of it, including the time-shifted cards.
>>47878515
Love the colours on this piece, and the softness of it all.
>>47879933
For competitive stuff it's sideboard.
For everything else it's *uznips deckbox*
>>47879818
That's going to be a bitch to play against if UG Eldrazi become a thing in standard.
>>47878682
The art was nice but the border is shit
>>47879818
So, would running Emrakul in the sideboard be useful for any deck? Protecting it from Surgical Extraction or something.
>>47879818
so wait, f i have a emrakul, the new one that is. and if i dont put it in the deck but i do play this in there, then that means I CAN TURN THREE EMRAKUL? possibly?
>>47879965
>>47879967
Or you could bring a box with you that contains singles of every eldrazi you own. Like, it could fit in a ultra pro deck box and be tagged with a label or something.
it's like they went out of their way to make sure emrakul wouldn't do anything interesting if reanimated
>>47880063
In your hand you absolute mongloid
>>47880063
how? this puts the card in your hand, not on the battlefield.
>>47877493
Blue doesn't search for creatures.
Blue doesn't return creatures from death.
Blue doesn't interact with exile.
And Blue isn't in Nahiri, Sorin's Ex's identity.
So why is this Blue?
>>47879818
Quick, how do we break this in modern ? I'm sure there is a way.
Maybe Izzet control running Throught the Breach and Emrakul (the good one) ?
>>47880094
>So why is this Blue?
Because fuck you, that's why. - Mark Rosewater
Blue is the only color allowed to have everything.
>>47880094
Because discovery at the drownyard was blue, which is the precursor to this card.
>>47880094
>>47879818
Well I fucked that up.
>>47879682
You're gonna love this then anon
>>47880094
blue's color pie is that it can do everything
>>47880066
Not in sanctioned events, no.
>>47880173
boner, please stop this is wrong
>>47880197
>this is wrong
I concur. Both about your boner and the dreadful thing you linked to.
![Torrent-Elemental-Fate-Reforged-Spoiler[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PV3miJ1.png "Torrent-Elemental-Fate-Reforged-Spoiler[1].png")
>>47880094
>Blue doesn't interact with exile.
It sometimes does
>>47880243
Misthollow Griffin would have been a better example.
>>47880094
BECAUSE WATER, NIGGA
>>47879208
>if he's the uncontested alpha why can't he fight fucking werewolve
Because he's uncontested. They know not to fuck with him.
so how long till they spoil a common so me and the rest of the pauper fags can lose our shit?
>>47879818
Modern Eldrazi decks are fucking dead, you faggot.
>>47879818
>Not 2(C)
>>47880380
commons are spoiled last, so you'll have to wait a few days.
>>47880380
That's what I'm waiting for as well as a limited only player
>>47880380
>good commons
But anon! That's too complex for the new players!
>>47880063
>being this retarded
>>47880410
fuck off Mark
>>47880410
Good commons can be quite simple. See Gurmag Angler.
>>47880397
Eldrazi and Taxes and Bant Eldrazi are top tier you dummy.
>>47879818
oh shit that leak was legit
Emerge keyword when?
>>47880094
because there's a lake on the picture
this is the actual true answer
>>47879688
>3 for 1
>Your 2 cards in play that were exiled plus path = 3
>His Newlamog = 1
You are a fucking retard.
>>47880094
If it's Blue, there's nothing it can't do. - Mark "Planar Chaos was a mistake" Rosewater
So is there any plot-relevant character left on Innistrad who isn't evil/dead/a planeswalker/answers to the name Emrakul by this point?
Sigarda?
>>47880555
Gitrog :>
>>47880555
odric and thalia, I think
are the skaab guys evil? I forget
>>47880555
I haven't read the UR yet but I'm assuming the two angels that were chronenberg'd together were the two that were crazy.
Sigarda was the one that wasn't, right? She still there?
>>47879818
> it's actually real
Doesn't fit the color
Doesn't fit the flavor text, nahiri has fuck all to do with blue
Was leaked by KIMBERLY of all fucking people
REEEEEEEÉÊÈË
>>47879818
Needed to be White
>>47880583
its a summoning spell.
>>47880563
I want a twisted gitrog, that would be fucking terrifying.
>>47880173
This almost feels like Wizards is lashing out at us calling Emrakul in Innistrad since like... what? Battle for Zendikar?
>"Oh, Emrakul is apparently missing on Zendikar. Must be in the next block."
>"Yup, not in Gatewatch either. Must be Innistrad."
>"Yup. Clues are definitely telling us Emrakul."
>"We get it. Eldritch Moon. Emrakul. Great spoiler."
>Wizards: "Yeah, well... FUCKING TWO MORE ANGEL WAIFUS GONE!"
>>47880571She's the vagina
>>47878361
nice'Mrakul one'Mrakul
>>47879818
How is this not white? Does wizards even know there own fucking game anymore?
>>47880649
>>47880600
>>47880549
I wish they'd just fucking admit they have a huge ass blue bias because catering to the psssh nothing personnel crowd rakes in money
>>47880173
>All the angels are now twisted abominations
>Liliana getting the spotlight
I can't wait for her to fedora tip her way across the plain defeating eldrazi with zombies
>>47879818
>Wish for Eldrazi
Kind of cool, but should be colorless.
And not Devoid "colorless", but actually colorless.
where's the source on the ulrich leak?
>>47879851
Literally nobody thought this you mongolian
All people were saying is
>HUR DUR IS THIS LE ANUS MANA???? XD
>>47880616
>Legendary Eldrazi Frog
>>47880712
wizard's tumblr
>literally NOBODY here has considered that it's blue because blue is a heavy eldrazi color in emn
>>47880739
and literally no one at wizards has considered the color pie relevant to what they want to shove in blue
>>47879469
>those faces
Ouch.
> moon constantly in the trailer
> light only exists to cast a shadow
> darkness is your only hope
Gee guys do you think we dropped enough subtle hints yet on how the moon will b save innistrad
>>47878468
Eh. My favorite art is just anything by Rebecca Guay. They're just so soft and beautiful.
>>47880769
>darkness is your only hope
shit I wonder if liliana is going to save the day
>>47880739
That's not the point. Blue can come out of exile on the card itself, but white is the color that actually deals with permanently exiled things.
>>47880798
I wonder how Sorin feels getting cucked out of saving "his" plane twice now by the same person
>Werewolves, humies, and vamps all going crazy
>Zombies being controlled by crazy cultists
>Only one tribe can save innastrad now...
Spirit Tribal will finally be good!
>>47880798
It's going to be armies of zombies vs the eldrazi
>>47880786
Yea I really like her art too
>>47880670
I feel like Liliana just wrote this entire set.
>>47880814
>finally it's the time for the Crocodile tribe to shine
![35[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o8JLmEl.jpg "35[1].jpg")