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Could goblins ever form a respectable society, or is that unrealistic?
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Could goblins ever form a respectable society, or is that unrealistic?
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Depends on the setting.
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>>47861753
what >>47861795 said

see: Runescape's goblins
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>>47861753
Well, they're certainly clever enough to form a vaguely modern-like culture.
"Now goblins are cruel, wicked, and bad-hearted. They make no beautiful things, but they make many clever ones. They can tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble, though they are usually untidy and dirty. Hammers, axes, swords, daggers, pickaxes, tongs, and also instruments of torture, they make very well, or get other people to make to their design, prisoners and slaves that have to work till they die for want of air and light. It is not unlikely that they invented some of the machines that have since troubled the world, especially the ingenious devices for killing large numbers of people at once, for wheels and engines and explosions always delighted them, and also not working with their own hands more than they could help; but in those days and those wild parts they had not advanced (as it is called) so far."
So I figure they'd probably be like Chechnya. A technically "civilized" nation, but whose primary exports are criminals and terrorists.
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>>47861753
>Could goblins ever form a respectable society

Yeah, check the CoC goblins.
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>>47861753
>could made-up creatures do [thing]
Yes you retarded fetishposter, now fuck off to Fenoxo's forums.
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>>47861753
>could fictional creatures with characterization that varies from fictional setting to setting ever form a respectable society?

the fuck is the point of these threads
they're whatever you write them to be
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>>47862175
>CoC Goblins
Strangely appropriate acronym
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>>47861753
WoW goblins are basically Gnomes
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>>47862244
and gnomes are basically SHIT
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>>47862193
>What is the point of these threads?
You know. I know. We all know.
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>>47861753
Sure, just don't make them bog-standard D&D goblins.
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>>47862600
>>47862013
>>47861812
>>47861795
Can we move this along to the shortstack fap material now?
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>>47862653
Anon you have the internet at your disposal. You could but change the board and you'd have your fap material. We're talking goblin societies here.
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>>47861812
Runescape goblins are idiots who are always at war with each other up until someone green and actually competent can kick them into position.

>Cave Goblines
>Acceptable
No.
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>>47862193
Presumably it's an invitation to get people to share their versions of said creatures, with a focus on the particular aspect mentioned in the post.
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>>47861753
>Could goblins ever form a respectable society, or is that unrealistic?

Unrealistic, but not impossible.

Male Goblins spend the majority of their lives either impregnating female goblins, foraging for food or kidnapping the offspring of other sapient species for their goblin mates to raise like reverse cuckoos.
Female Goblins spend the majority of their lives either being swollen and pregnant or compulsively raising children- even the children of other sapient species like a reverse cuckoo.

Goblins that have had their sex drive removed though can be alarmingly intelligent.
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>>47862677
>>47862729

What if goblin ladies realized that other races loved stortstacks, so they ran away from their males for a chance at superior mates? A few spells later, and they'd insure that they'd have no male offspring, only stacked, thick goblin girls.

A few centuries later, goblins has taken over the service industry, trying to pay for a higher education or just to attract the attention of a rich patron. A society of college girls that strip to pay for tuition, but green.
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>>47861753
>Could goblins ever form a respectable society
WoW goblins, unless you're a gommie that thinks capitalism isn't respectable
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>>47861753
nope, decent and functional democracies require at least an average IQ of greater than 90. goblins average IQ is about 80. there are demographics in the US with similar IQs, and the places they live are exactly what you would expect a goblin civilization to look like. different parts of the cites are controlled by warlords and their gangs. gang warfare is a constant fact of life. violence and fear is the currency of power, not reason or merit. massive unemployment, broken families, and non functional education.
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>>47862838
>>>/magical realm/
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>>47862878
sauce on pic?
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>>47862878
That's stupid, you're stupid. Fuck off to a porn board, fap, then come back.
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>>47863110
You can tell purely off art style thats incase
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>>47862838

While we're on the subject and because I have nothing better to do:

LOTS of solitary sapient species -species that are intelligent but for one reason or another can't tolerate the company of their own kind- often keep small broods of goblins to tend to their needs and wants while they focus on other things. A lot of the time the majority of these goblins or at the very least over a quarter of them are alchemically/chemically neutered. This also has the unintended but happy effect of doubling the life expectancy of a goblin.

-What few intelligent Dragons there are often like to keep Goblins around as minions: alchemists, lab technicians, manage their treasure, to keep pests away from their eggs or to just keep them company since most Dragons are literally dumb animals.

-Cyclopes occasionally like to keep Goblins around since other Cyclopes are often few and far between, often using them as to help them garden, herd livestock or as assistants in smithing, tinkering or masonry.

A lot of the disparity and discrepancies between skilled, intelligent Goblins are created by Dragons and Cyclopes teaching them things.

-Trolls like to throw their ugly children into Goblin dens for the Goblins to raise. The Troll children finally leaving the den when they're strong enough to resist their siblings and parents from physically keeping them at home.

-On the opposite spectrum of things: Some Brothels literally just tend to an artificial den of Goblins that they throw willing customers into.
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Only if they eat enough respectable people.
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>>47863272
The disgusting slug-like lips are a dead giveaway.
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>>47863288
>-What few intelligent Dragons there are often like to keep Goblins around as minions: alchemists, lab technicians, manage their treasure, to keep pests away from their eggs or to just keep them company since most Dragons are literally dumb animals.
and to plate them with armor when they accidentally turn into a lava monster
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>>47863541
>and to plate them with armor when they accidentally turn into a lava monster

I absolutely fucking adore Warcrafts evil goblin dragon symbiotic technician motiff they've had going on in their games.

But I've also got a lot of respect for early sword and sorcery cheesecake and french cartoon sexual liberties.
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>>47863026
t. /pol/
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>>47863477
>implying any respectable person will let themselves be eaten by trash like goblins
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>>47863503
>Has somehow never seen bimbo lip stick/gloss/crap in his entire life
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Because goblins have a high sex drive but also are violent, many male goblins die relatively early by violence, stupidity or an unhealthy fascination with explosives.
Because of this, goblins are loosely ruled by matriarch clans, wiser older goblin females leading due to long years of existence. Perhaps the old biddies squabble among themselves and use breeding rights to raise militaries. Perhaps they work together to exile or otherwise inconvenience a male lucky and clever enough to grow old.
In game the matriarchs of goblin clans can be powerful spellcasters or storytellers and diplomats of strong ability.
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>>47862555
If we all know then why aren't there nearly enough lewd goblin pics in this thread?
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>>47861753
I think the main thing goblins lack is strong central leadership. They could be set up as a WW2 Russia style culture where they rely on numbers for everything, but even if you get enough smart goblins to organize it all, they're all going to die of old age in maybe 30 years.

This inherently makes Goblin society very chaotic, as social changes occur rapidly. Internally, a Goblin society could be doing fine, but externally it looks like a mess.

Just take how in some settings Elves sometimes consider human kingdoms to not be worth remembering, and then scale that relative to humans. Who cares who the Goblin King is if they're going to change government systems in 10 years anyway?

While Goblins can form a complex or prosperous society, I don't think they'd be able to make it a respectable one.
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Well shit, I guess they're forever doomed to the brothels.
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>>47861753

I remember in Radiata Stories, a PS2 game, where there were 2 races of goblins. The green ones lived in slum city in the desert, were mostly thieves and scavengers, but had a mostly organized society, although small.

Black goblins lived in mushroom infested caves where they ate mushrooms all day, these mushrooms were implied to be narcotic, but were overall stronger than the green ones, were smarter, with some of them even reading books and taming wolves and had basic trading with other magic creatures due to mushroom trading.

I'd say gobling can make a good enough society as long as stealing and being a parasite on other bigger societies isn't a immediate option.

Push comes to shove, they can organize themselves well enough to prosper.
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>>47861753
>Could goblins ever form a respectable society, or is that unrealistic?

Yes, they can.
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>>47863026
>IQ
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>a society of goblins that are tired of being killed as low level mooks and banded together to poorly mimic the civilization of other races with stuff like dumb hats and strange, forced vocabulary.
>They don't truly believe in what they're doing but it's fun to pretend and it's better than being killed.

thanks for the idea, op
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>>47865465
Even the short stack thread on /aco/ is getting light on lewd goblins. I partly blame incase for pushing each page of his comics rather than doing the warm up goblins that he was doing.
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>>47862653
>>47862838
>>47862878
>not talking about Domesticated Goblins
What the actual fuck is going on in this thread? This is how you have goblins be a part of respectable society:
http://archived.moe/tg/thread/39789477/
http://archived.moe/tg/thread/39940041/

>And here you can see our prize Mendhavian show goblin
>See the way the ears have been extended out and clearly reflect her mood
>From the current angle you can tell at a glance she's quite happy - like many show goblins she enjoys being put on display
>The noise retains the characteristic oversized quality but has been softened somewhat from the base stock
>The teeth are - open up, dear - bright and neatly arranged - you can close now - with the canines just barely visible with the mouth closed. The breed is prone to minor sores on the lower lip, but a few dabs of healing potion can take care of the problem
>You can see the slim waist, wide hips, and fair skin. Mendhavians do have to be kept on a strict exercise regimen, as left to their own devices they tend to overeat and develop a bit of flab
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>>47861753
Look up Iron Kingdoms.
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>>47870602
That's far too magical realm.
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I read up on the CoC goblins.

How do you control a species like that? They'll eventually out-populate everything, so there needs to be a reliable way to cull the bastards.

Also seems that if you send in adventurers, they'll get pelted with lust potions and your teams will return somewhat embarrassed, since your men ended up rutting with as many of them as they could and your women ended up dropping a litter or ten of the bastards. At least there doesn't seem to be much difference for half-breeds.

Think you could invent up some anti-goblin disease? Goblin myxomatosis? Or will they be smart enough to use their alchemy to cure it?
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>>47870629
Exterminator golems.

If you can manage, make a meatgolem with functional dick that shoots slow acting poison.
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>>47861753
Goblins? Respectable society!? Wha-

I mean of course! For faaar too long have your kind been subjugated to neglect and abuse at the treatment of man, elves, and dwarves, but no longer I say! Join the ranks of my armies and claim your juuustice!

Myaaah hah haaa!
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>>47870624
>That's far too magical realm.
Sure, there's some Magical Realm in there. But there's also some really solid shit regarding the enslavement and domestication of subhuman races. For example:

>The Yaojing breed of goblin has been rapidly gaining popularity for the wide variety of colored spots on its skin.
>Yaojing are about a head smaller than your usual goblin, as they were bred to be companions for the children of ancient royal families, equipped to be both a bodyguard and loving companion. Because of their role, these goblins have been bred to have a much longer lifespan, by about 15 more years on average.
>Because of their closeness to feral goblins, the Yaojing are notoriously hard to train. Expect a lot of repetition before they register a command. Likewise they are very inquisitive getting into everything. So make sure to goblin proof your house if you have to leave them alone.
>Grooming isn't as hard as other goblin breeds as Yaojing can take care of themselves. But you should still overlook their grooming as they can take it to strange places.
>Don't worry about having babies in the house. You can find few breeds as loving as the Yaojing.
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>>47870602
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>>47861753
Goblins as implied by that pic? Hell no. That's a tumblr goblin and therefore utter shite and incapable of anything good or productive.
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>>47870762
>high elf civilization creates magical internet
>some asshole creates fast-breeding goblins to work as spambots
>high and moral elves liberate some sweatshops of his and put goblins into liveable conditions
>bereft of purpose, they just shitpost
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>>47870629
They all get eatenor impregnated with non-goblin progeny by the rest of the wildlife
Its probably only 5% of goblins that actually live to reproduce
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>>47870800
You've got to give the more active, working breeds a job to do - or at least a large environment to roam and explore - or else they invent tasks of their own. Patrolling the house and yapping at anyone out on the street, hoarding socks and hiding them under furniture, and so forth. You can try to give them long walks to tire them out, if you have time, but unless you're walking somewhere with lots of interesting things they'll require more mental stimulation to be satisfied.

Don't get a working breed if you live in the city unless you have a permit to take it with you on your daily activities, like a service goblin. Being alert, hard-working, and more intelligent than typical breeds, though, they do make fantastic seeing eye goblins.
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Fetishits fuck off, you're cancerous and provide nothing of value. Go fap yourselves raw, then come back to post if you still wish (implying fetishits have anything to contribute outside masturbatory fantasies).
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>>47870956
Fapping is bad for your creativity, anon. And one prude's magical realm is another anon's inspration.
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>>47870956
>being this terrified of other people not being asexual
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Demons > goblins
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>>47863840
Warcraft goblins in general are pretty good. Better than Gnomes at least.
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>>47871167
That's bullshit, and nothing creative is going on ITT, just rehashing a furry's fetish worldbuilding.
>>47871186
>thinking hypersexuality justifies shitposting
Go play CoC if you want to fap to HURR MIDGET BREEDING HIPS INFLATED WITH GALLONS OF CUM.
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>>47871290
Holy shit you are a triggered autist.

Back to topic. Going by traditional goblins? No. While they do have some intelligence to craft certain devices and poisons, it seems that all these tools are built with malicious use in mind. Add to them being self destructive little shits they won't be able to build much of a society before backstabbing and chaos breaks out.
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>>47862838
>compulsively raising children
Goblin nanny service? That has potential.
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>>47865822
In this case they're probably naturally gravitate towards councils for leadership, so that the death of one member doesn't have such a huge effect. You'd likely see mountain clans being the most advanced too, as space is at a premium and a strong military would be required to compete with the dwarves.

Maybe goblin society trends towards a caste system. You'd have your rulers, warriors and workers, with gifted metallurgists/alchemists/etc. being pretty much the only social climbers. The military caste keep the naturally chaotic worker goblins in line so that they work without killing each other and vent their own aggression in doing so. It makes for a fairly brutal regime, but is pretty much the only way modern goblins have been able to compete with the other races as otherwise they fall into tribalism and violence.

The council that heads this nation would be made up of those cunning enough to get a spot on it, for the most part, but they also tend to have a high proportion of former military caste members. Certain well respected artisans might get a place as well, if only so they can advise the others on warfare. Membership on the council is often very short lived, due to assassination, but is very rewarding as it brings with it a lot of wealth and prestige.

Occasionally you will get some ruler that manages to consolidate power in his own hands, but they don't tend to live long lives at the best of times, and there's always the old guard willing to pick up where they left off beforehand.
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>>47871471
I read that in Jareth's voice.

I'm not sure how I feel about it.
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>>47870717
aw fuck yeah bat goblins

you got more?
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9/10 times goblins are alchemists

That has to be worth something
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>>47872729
Goblins are the inventors of the infamous hermaphroditic potion obviously
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>sexy orc threads
>sexy goblin threads

god damn it /tg/ why must you constantly remind of things I can't ever have
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>>47873189
>TWF no Greenskin gf
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Gobbers in Iron Kingdoms are kinda normal and accepted part of society
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>>47871471
The problem is that if you don't pick them up in time they turn into goblins forever.
And there's a maze to make sure you do.
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>>47863026
>an average IQ of greater than 90.
An average IQ is defined as 100. It's not an absolute measurement, it's relative to the rest of the populace.

Of course the tests are calibrated so a certain answer set gives you a certain score. But they've had to keep re-calibrating it so the population would average to 100.

If an IQ 100 person today took the test from 100 years ago, they'd score much higher than 100.

As democracy worked 200 years ago, the claim that you need your populace to have a certain IQ score is bullshit. The nice thing about democracy is that stupid people can vote for someone smarter than they are.
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>>47861753
>Goblins
We don't have them.
We have Muttfolk, though, which you get from several races cooped up north for a long time with little population flow. Their strange blood makeup makes them unlike any of their 'parent' races, maturing at age 6 but living only 30 years, an unnerving situation for most. They generally have pointy ears and are built like dwarves, with most other facial features being human.
They tend towards extreme law or extreme chaos, and are fairly rare as they tend to stay 'among their own' in the north.
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>>47863541

>accidentally
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>>47861753
Haven't read Rasing Steam, have you, OP?
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>>47873667
Black folk weren't allowed to vote 200 years ago.
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>>47873901
Neither were the majority of white people.
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>>47873938
>>47873901
>>47863026
And all of that racist shit aside, a democratic goblin society could be as decent and functional as 1700's USA. Sure, they might restrict voting to land-owners. Whatever. Put that sliding scale of freedom where every you want.
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>>47873715
>we don't have goblins
>we have not!goblins
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>>47861753
Of course. I've enjoyed having crazily varied faeish goblins ever since watching Labrynth and that one Halloween Scooby Doo movie. A bunch of ugly weird looking things with a few individuals who are extremely powerful or beautiful or both due to possessing high levels of magic and are just as likely to give birth to beautiful fairy monarchs as they are to give birth to giant ogre warlords.
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>>47874045
Sauce?
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>>47874045
Yeah, that's sort of the point.
They're like goblins, in that they tend to reproduce and mature quickly to upkeep their relatively short-lived and sometimes volatile population, but they're not actually goblinoids, if that makes sense, and they do have their own functioning society.
Basically, they're close enough that I thought it was relevant.
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>>47874121
Guacamole, I think.
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>>47871497
A council system could work, as would that sort of layered setup. I imagine they could almost pull off something vaguely Roman, minus an Emperor, using their numbers to swell militarily, and using it as a sort of intelligence and discipline test. If you can follow orders and think on your feet, you'll live through it and earn a proper place in society.

They could also use slave labor to fill things in. As you said, Goblins are naturally Chaotic, so they'd be better suited for whipping more disciplined laborers instead.
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>>47873501
I'd rather deal with the maze than let the goblins come over for child-minding duty.

You start off with the one and somehow by the end of the week you've got over a dozen.
And that's just the Goblins.
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>>47874172
>Guacamole
Google gives me nothing but delicious avocado.
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>>47874205
>stupid joke

>your dumb head
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>>47874270
Yeah, no, I still don't get the joke.
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>>47874282

You asked for a sauce for the green lady. He gave you a green sauce.
It was more retarded than funny, though.
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>>47874308
Oh. That's really funny now that you've explained it. I don't really see guacamole as a sauce, though. Salsa verde, maybe.
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>>47874121
InCase. He's been on a shortstack high for the better part of a year now. Truly we have been blessed.
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>>47874406
Shortstacks are truly the best.
Green, blue, red, any colour, the best.
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>>47874406
I can't find that particular picture on any of his pages.
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>>47874444
You don't deserve those damn numbers. GIVE THEM BACK.
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>>47874325
How the fuck is Salsa Verde a sauce

Sauce is usually a liquid that's added to other dishes and aren't served by themselves, which Salsa arguably doesn't do since it's the name of the main dish.
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>>47874503

I'm from California and how the fuck are you this stupid about Mexican food?
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>>47874503
>Salsa

>Spanish for sauce
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>>47874503
Because at least it's thin enough to be poured. While there are some guacamoles that are saucy, most are thick enough to be scooped, not poured.

Picture related is salsa verde. It's not bigass chunks of tomato.
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>>47874503
Salsa verde is poured onto other things. Guacamole looks like this.
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>>47874444
Well that is curious. It's clearly his latest style of goblin, but I can't find that specific one either
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>>47874632
>>47874444
>saucefag can't even look through a booru
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>>47874838

I'm more appalled that other saucefag can't properly distinguish between a sauce and a dip.
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Mechanic goblins > fetishy alchemist goblins
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>>47861753
I think D&D sometimes has it done by Hobgoblin leadership taking over a tribe and getting them organized.

They're still super evil though in that case, so you're looking at organized crime rather than a respectable society.

That said, its a fantasy race. You could easily just make your own setting where Goblins fill in for Dwarves, Halflings, or both.
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But the better question is. why doesn't /tg/ MAKE a functioning Goblin society?

I mean, we could probably combine pretty much every Goblin reference and thing we can find (Pathfinder, Labyrinth, Dwarf Fortress, Dresden Files, Discworld, etc.) into one setting with a bit of effort

So Goblins being born in The Pit and sending Seiges out to everyone can exist alongside High Goblins who send Goblin Hookers out to everyone due to being half-elf
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>>47875430
We'd default to sexy goblins 100% of the time? If there were a thread for making some OC goblins, it'd probably be a red light district, except instead of a district it's the whole city.
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>>47875430
I don't think we need to jumble together every Goblin from every setting to make it work. Just figure out what the most basic definition of goblin is so we can build a society off of that and still have them be recognizable as goblins.

So far I think the only universal thing is that they're short and green, and even the green is sometimes optional.
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>>47875560
I'd just want a goblin version of Trist from LoL.
I am weak.
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>>47875603
There's nothing wrong with that, anon.
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>>47861753
>You will never be a curvy goblin girl
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>>47875693
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>>47874325
I always thought of guacamole as more of a topping than sauce desu.
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>>47875734

Moles are kind of like a thick sauce. Guacamole is one of the thickest moles, though.
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>>47875603
She the one with the skin of blue?
Just open up photoshop and fuck with the hue.
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Its nice but doesn't make her real though.
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>>47873189
>tfw I've been the one pushing orc threads lately
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>>47876136
so its you I have to hate/thank
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>>47876136

Bless you.
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>>47875560
>If there were a thread for making some OC goblins, it'd probably be a red light district, except instead of a district it's the whole city.


I honestly don't see a problem with a city so infested by Goblins it turned the original residents and law enforcement away, and left the Goblins in charge of the evergrowing black market bazaar (+Red Light district) and the whole city in the end.
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>>47876980
I didn't say there was a problem with it, I just said what it'd be.
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>>47876134
>making trist green
Heresy!

Blue and purple are best race colors! Purps is bester
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>>47877136
Tbh I actually prefer her blue but since the thread is about goblins, I figured when in Rome.
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>>47877155
This is the /tg/roman equivalent of Constantinople, and those eastern nobles loved them the cool colors! Well that and the lewd CoC goblins had red and blue hues as well, which means bluegobs aren't all that far apart. With anything that resembles a caste system then a goblin's hue would play into that
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>>47873189
Just get a short stack and some green body paint, go to town.
Date larpers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMKOx6fumc

Post goblins
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>>47877243
>Date larpers.
That's terrible idea. Nothing against banging them, but most of them are crazy enough not to be anywhere near relationship material.
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>>47877243
Just get a shortstack he says, as if they are that common and it is that easy
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>>47877313
Get a short, stack her yourself.
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>>47877301
The idea is to find the flavor of crazy you like and can handle.

>>47877313
Larps, Rocky Horror, anime conventions, resorts during spring break, casual encounters section of Craigslist, etc. Just look around and do the basic ring/hovering boyfriend check then strike up a conversation.
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>>47877359
You say that like shorts are around in enough numbers that they only need to be bred for specific traits! There are more lefties in the world than there are shorts! There aren't enough shorts for that anon!

There aren't enough shorts for that!
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>>47861753
Could or should?
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>3dpd
>ever

Get out
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>>47877410
I wanted to say there's too many lefties, but I figured you actually mean it as a left-handed, right?

As for the shortage of shorts, it depends how short is short enough for you. Somewhere between 4'6" and 5'nothing there's a plenty. If you're looking for 4' and under, the chances are slim.
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>>47877484
I would posit that political and social lefties are numerous because they're all concentrated here, but yea left-handed people.

4' and under definitely, because everyone's either under 5' or over 6'
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>>47877546
Changed my mind, 4' and under ideally.
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>TFW You know a blue eyed syrian who's 4'9
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>>47874045
>mfw InCase goblins
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>>47873501
that is a green elf Anon
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>>47861753
Only if you're willing to tweak what goblins "are". Pathfinder may be on the extreme end, with its ADHD cannibalistic sadistic pyromaniac toddler-brained goblins, but it's basically building on the mold all goblins have been forced into in D&D.

Take away that "always chaotic evil" aspect, let them be more than just flesh-eating filthy monkeys skulking in caves, and you'd be surprised.

Heck, I've got goblins in a setting I'm homebrewing who're basically magical, intelligent beings that, crunch-wise, use the Forest Gnome stats.
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>>47863288
>Birthing hips
>Chest of a 10 year-old
God damnit. Proportions, people, proportions!
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>>47878023
>Birthing hips
>Chest of a 10 year-old
>God damnit. Proportions, people, proportions!


That's because it's a MALE Goblin, Anon.
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>>47878132
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>>47861753
how much XP does she give, anon?
>>47862244
They're little jews.
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>>47878023
those are perfect proportions you drama queen
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>>47878023
>Not seeing the bound breasts
That gobbo has DDs at the very least.
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>>47878023
>implying wide hipped women with flat chest is impossible
Do you even pear?
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>>47861753
can sub sahara africa mare a respectable society?
yes, but once in a thousand years
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>>47861753
>hobgoblins don't exist
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>>47878540
Well, technically...
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>>47861753
Well, this guy said it. >>47861795

My goblins have respectable enough society, but there's a very good chance they aren't much like your goblins. If they aren't just dungeon monkeys, you can probably make something with them.
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>>47878540
The prolific fantasy race cheesecake drawing community doesn't seem very fond of hobgoblins.
Yes, this is a request.
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>>47879395
seconding the request
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Here's how I like seeing goblins in my setting I currently have going

>Goblins are like kobolds but they live above ground instead of in caves
>They have human level intelligence but live half as long
>They live in small tribes and mimic any larger society around them kind of like a bunch of kids playing at being king
>Most places consider them pests because they are always stealing things to better mimic others
>Because of this goblins are constantly shuffled around, have little culture of their own, and seem more as monsters then people
>Rarely people bring these tribes in and they become second class citizens

I still haven't got to do a goblin 'kingdom' yet in my game I think it'd be a lot of fun.
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>Was planning on making goblins in my setting demonic entities, along the lines of Imps
>all these big hipped goblins and ideas for goblin kingdoms giving me other ideas

Now what am I supposed to do?
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>>47876136
Half orc waifu protects her man and cooks him stew.
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>>47880574
Mix the two. It's the only way.
Fat-hipped Imps with a growing kingdom and aspirations.
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>>47880574
Imagine the Imps from Dragon Commander.

Now make them green short stacks.
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>>47880641
>>47880676
>Short stack Imps

I didn't want this boner.

Besides, the whole point of them being demons was so the players could have cannon fodder to cleave through without regrets. How am I supposed to do that when they're trying to build a kingdom and are also sexy short stacks?
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>>47880749
Many a boner was unsolicited, my friend.
All you can do now is forge onward, commit to your shortstack demon idea, and know that if the players don't cleave through all them, they can't be careless about where they camp, cause, well...they'll be pitching tents in more ways than one.
That imp population ain't gonna replenish on its own.
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>>47880749
Can't help you there.
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>>47880864
speaking as a player
there's nothing more I'd love to do than to cleave through shortstack demons all day long, if you know what I mean
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>>47880749
>How am I supposed to do that when they're trying to build a kingdom and are also sexy short stacks?

They're cock fodder to fuck through without regrets.
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>>47880864
I suppose I could always justify it by saying the Imps double as succubi
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>>47880896
I know exactly what you mean. And as a GM I'm just vindictive enough to throw them at you; either kill them or risk being a father to several dozen new terrorizing demons.

>>47880998
Yessss...yessssss!
That's right, Anon. That's good...so easy to plug into your campaign, isn't it?
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>>47881160
>That's good...so easy to plug into your campaign, isn't it?

I'm not trying to run an ERP, but people keep making it way too tempting
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SPEAKING AS A PLAYER
THERE'S NOTHING MORE I'D LOVE TO DO THAN PLUG INTO SOME SHORTSTACK DEMONS
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>>47878132
>That's because it's a MALE Goblin, Anon.
...Huh. A year ago, that would've grossed me out. /d/ does weird things to a man.

>>47878255
>>47878294
I know pearshape is a thing, but it's never been my thing. Looks unbalanced, same with the ever-popular huge tits and nothing else style.

Gimme that perfect thick-as-oatmeal hourglass any day of the week.
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>>47881299
It's a bit different for me
Thanks to /d/, I went from being grossed out to wanting to BE the male goblin with plump birthing hips
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>>47881224
Well I'm not able/willing to put it in my campaign, friend. So be a true hero and do it.
Not for you. Not for me. But for /tg/ and all the folks out there who don't have the opportunity to play such a wonderfully confusing, arguably sexy scenario.
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>>47881362
I may not want to be a trap, but by golly do I want to have one that's up for switching who tops.
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>>47881780
You can have me, friend~

and maybe I can have you once in a while
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>>47881780
>>47881362
>>47881299

I'm mildly convinced that /d/ and it's degeneracy isn't a product of modern degeneracy but is instead the reemergence of the purest forms of want and desire- something we've been bottling up inside ourselves to keep society functioning, but has always been with us.
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Can i get people to post qt goblin PNG's? I have a goblin encounter on roll20 and I kind of want more variety to show they're not ALL retarded. (Although most will be.)
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>>47881880
You're not wrong. Human sexuality is strange shit and the fact that we try and cram into very small corners makes my penis very upset.
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>>47881644
Bleh. At this point I might as well just run an ERP anyway. I was already flip-flopping on including Pink Dragons from that one thread recently.

Of course, then comes the issue of my RL group not being the place for ERP.
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>>47881160
>I know exactly what you mean. And as a GM I'm just vindictive enough to throw them at you; either kill them or risk being a father to several dozen new terrorizing demons.
>Keep every bred gobboslut as a leashed pet
>when she gives birth, if it's more humanoid than goblinoid, raise as proper child
>if it's more goblinloid than humanoid, keep as another fuckpet
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>>47861753

As anons have said before, it depends the setting.

In my setting, I made Goblins the equivalent of Southeast Asians. They work rice terraces and caribou drivers that mostly pursue menial careers. Most goblins live humble lives and enjoy a good party or so after the day's work is done. A few goblins can become the village lore-master or "bard" as translated into common tongue. In times of war, goblins are recruited by the empire into legionary service as scouts and auxiliary forces.
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>>47881946
Yikes. Yeah, the "IRL" factor is what would keep me from using the item in my campaign, too.
If that's the case, I'd say either shelf the idea for now or be much, much more subtle with it than I was suggesting.

>>47881972
We CoC now.
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>>47881824
Only if you're attracted to hairy, bearded manlets. I promise I'm hygienic, though.

>>47881880
Oh yeah, definitely. Slick things on/in the pleasure areas causes pleasure, everything else is just culture.
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>>47882259
Yeah. I suppose I'll need to save it for an actual ERP and just use my original plan

It's nice to dream though.
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>>47874444
>>47874632
I can most definitely say I recognize that picture--the rest is a sort of punk style that is absolutely delicious.

Thing is, I saw it as part of a random InCase collection on Sad Panda, so I can't be more specific. Sorry, Anons.
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If standard goblins are out, what about Blues? As in, the psionic Goblin subrace from D&D?

They're much smarter on average, less chaotic, and with their mental powers they could have a big edge on potential betrayal and backstab attempts. They seem like they could work well as leaders for a Goblin society.
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I like goblins
We should post more about goblins
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>treading softly to avoid anything nsfw
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>>47885183
>filename

That's an oxymoron
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>>47885211
>oxymoron

That would mean the words are opposites, like Jumbo Shrimp or Military Intelligence. You're thinking of Redundant, like Hot Fire or Wet Water.
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Well, shit. That's it. All the rest is porn.
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>>47885284
The lab coat is cute
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>>47883558
>I saw it as part of a random InCase collection on Sad Panda
Found it:
http://exhentai.org/s/72a6484224/940615-560
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>>47885415
Huh, didn't think you could actually posy links on a blueboard but thanks for the assist
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>>47874045
How the hell do you do an eyebrow piercing in medieval society without losing half your face to an infection?
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>>47885840
Who said anything about medieval society?
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>>47881972
Okay, Craster
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>>47885870
no one, I just see this shit all the time in d&d character art and wondered if there was historical precedent
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>>47885840
I think they used hot needles and sticks, didn't they?
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>>47885840
People have done more drastic body mods in worse conditions.
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>>47885840
Presumably anybody who could afford to implant bits of metal into their body can also afford an herbal poultice to ward off infection
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>>47885331

that's ok
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>>47879395
>>47879416
What are the features that would make a Hobgoblin?
Specifically how are they different from Orcs?
Would they be more trim and less muscle-bound?
For them to get more love, they need distinct identity
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>>47879395
Search your filth site of choice for "Raji".
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>>47886382

But he draws pastel animu elves with tattoos, and then just calls 'em hobgoblins and bugbears.
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>>47886341
They're taller, stronger, and smarter than goblins but not as big as humans nor nearly as bulky as orcs. Plus they're often yellowish rather than green.
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>>47886487
Any base fantasy art to use as a starting point to make cheesecake from?
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>>47886525
Nothing good, they're not popular. Just draw a goblin that's 5 or 6 heads tall instead of 4 and color it yellow/orange.
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>>47886487
They're taller than humans and almost a bulky as orcs. They really are just orcs-lite
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>>47861753
Goblins in my setting are basically the Irish. Have a strong culture that persisted even after they got conquered. So they take a lot from their conquerors culturally, but are still essentially goblin.
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>>47886341
Closer to human height, more orangish, and a bit lankier. They look a bit more like off-colored elves, but more rugged.

Hobgoblins aren't very distinct.
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>>47886592
And that is why there never will be anything good.
Make a taller shortstack and make it yellow.
So Asian....
Seriously, taller jaundiced gobo isn't inspirational
Why should they be a thing, what nitche do they fill?
Otherwise,
>>47886605
>Orclite
Is alreadt covered by the wide variety of orc porn. Just paint it yellow and stick to the less muscle-bound ones.
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>>47886739
Could use 4e Hobgoblins, but they still look pretty Orc-ish.

'Horde of angry evil men with weird skin colors' has kind of been taken over by Orcs.
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>>47870667

We're hitting magical realm numbers that shouldn't even be possible
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>>47886619
They're more like Roma in mine - often nomadic communities who take it as a cultural mandate to not give a fuck about non-goblins because of a long history of being on the receiving end of genocide, cultural exclusion, and so forth. As a consequence of this, they steal, cheat, and generally keep giving the people who hate them more ammunition to use against them. If something has been stolen, or someone shanked, or a riot started and mischief raised, goblins are a good place to look, whether it's a ghetto, a homeless camp, or wolf-pulled wagons circled outside of town.
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>>47861753
I actually like a small twist on traditional goblins:

Yes, they're violent little beasts that die explosively and mate like rabbits, but due to their sheer numbers 1/100 goblins that are born are actually quite intelligent. These smarter goblins eventually aggregate together and form their own society deep in the forest, but other races never know this simply because they never meet--they only ever see the miles of feral goblins that infest the forests. This "barrier" of feral goblins that surrounds the city on all sides serves as great protection, but also isolates it from ever really becoming a part of the greater races.

Also, they're bat goblins because I think they're fucking awesome.
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>>47890934
dig the "everyone carries a hooka" aesthetic going on
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>>47864871
>Has never considered that seeing disgusting bimbo shit doesn't instantly make you enough of a freak to like it
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>Human character in current game
>Assertive and forceful gobbo girl interested in and pursuing my guy

o no
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>>47886341
In my campaigns, they're distinct from orcs because, instead of being a rampaging, disorganized horde that uses tactics mostly on accident, they're a well armed, armored and clean fighting force that adheres so strictly to proper tactics as drilled into their head from infancy that even an Ultramarine would go 'damn son calm down'. Hobgoblins are trained to the point where they basically forget their individuality and every single soldier in a legion would, without a second thought, take a blow for their superior officer because they are nothing but a statistic, and the officer is necessarily. When adventurers in my campaign fight hobgoblins, they aren't fighting monsters, they're fighting a squad, and one trained from birth to know each other better than they know themselves.

TL;DR: Lawful Evil as fuck, no self-preservation, and able to wipe parties by fighting intelligently and in proper formations.
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>>47886605
>>47886775
Hongoblins aren't angry, that's the whole point. They're sort of the fighters to the orc's barbarians.
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>>47891524
Seems like a good distinction, though I'm not sure how that would translate.

Ladyknights and Amazons?
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>>47885925
You do realize these are the types of settings where drinking a rpotion can cause wounds to close?
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>>47891058
Oh god I would not be able to cope
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>>47892036
Neither am I, that's why I need help and advice.
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>>47877647
>syrian
Dude no.
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>>47892059
Give her the D
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>>47892127
I don't think that's a good idea since she wants a relationship I think. Also I'm not sure she could handle it. Also I don't want to meet the DM halfway with some magical realm stuff.
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>>47892169
Just hook up with the goblin girl and fug.
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>>47892196
Well I don't think it's a very good idea, but I guess my guy might as well. Shame, since there was a nice human girl he was interested in.
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>>47892260
Make the adventure real and roleplay a bigamist.
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Are shortstacks literally built for lewd?

Can they possibly exist for any other reason?

Should they?
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>>47892275
I'm pretty sure the human girl will not be interested in my guy if a goblin takes him.
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>>47892277
Yes

No

No
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>>47885284
>onesie
>belt
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>>47892290
Her loss is your gain.
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>>47861753

I run my city goblins as Italian, so no.
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>>47892313
Oh well then. Still hope the DM doesn't make it too magical though.
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>>47892349
Really that is the only possible problem with it. Handled tastefully it could just be cute and harmless fun.
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>>47892260
Do both
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>>47892380
Wouldn't work since the human girl is polite and reserved and shy, while the gobbo is possessive and aggressive. Had a situation in game where my guy tried to spend some time with the human girl but the gobbo clung on his shoulders and hung from his neck and talking about inappropriate stuff and kept making the situation awkward and uncomfortable for us.

>>47892364
Ideally but I could also see the DM running away with it since she's done things like that sometimes before.
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>>47892449
>Ideally but I could also see the DM running away with it since she's done things like that sometimes before.
As much as I am in favour of human-goblin love...if that is the case I can understand your reluctance.

You know your situation best, play it by ear and I hope it works out well for you.
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>>47892081
y no
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>>47892449
>Ideally but I could also see the DM running away with it since she's done things like that sometimes before.

>Female DM
>Giving you a shortstack NPC to fuck

Yeah, you should be hitting that already. The DM, I mean.
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>>47863253
I'm always amused that there are still people on /tg/ that think fapping changes a perverts outlook.
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>>47892657

..and driving off the smut thread would mean fatguys would stop being perverts.
Then again, I don't think the guys who claimed that actually believed it for a second.
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>>47892632
Because chocolate best flavor
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>>47892303
Speaking as a mechanic, a belt with overalls is more useful than you think. You can hang stuff off of it, and it'll keep the bottom part from sagging if it's not a perfect fit.
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>>47881888
Is there more from this artist, and if so where can I find it?
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>>47892059
Make your rejections comical instead of serious. This is now a running gag of your adventure.
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>>47892746
>..and driving off the smut thread would mean fatguys would stop being perverts.
You're not serious right?
There can't be people dumb enough to fall for this.
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>>47894240

I'm afraid so; it was truly retarded. The shitposters who opposed the wst frequently claimed that the existence of the wst "normalized" smut topics, and was responsible for all the pervy stuff going on in other threads.
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>>47893212
That sounds pretty good. Already room for comical situations since she's a rogue so tends to sneak around after my guy and show up places she shouldn't.
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>>47881888
>>47893176
https://cranbry.artstation.com/
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>>47892303
>>47893156
>her onesie is a size too big to make room for when she's bloated with cum
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