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Old thread: >>47830616
Only because it has a kitsune on it.
I am going to be in a homebrew campaign but mainly stay in Absalom.
What kind of Animal Companion are "normal" in the city? Camel? Axe Beak?
>>47834409
Giant centipede. Wear it wrapped around your torso like armor and get it to spit venom on things out of your sleeves or something.
Oh look, another shitty aborted thread created by the same salty contrarian asshole who hates everything.
Didn't you learn form last time when you tried to make your shitty thread that was promptly abandoned for the last one?
>>47834443
There's more than one poster in every thread, you're not talking to yourself
Is Shareanon dead?
>>47834886
We're all dead inside
>>47834906
We're all skeletons inside.
>>47834913
Spooky.
>>47834913
You gotta give a warning before doing that. Almost had a heart attack
>>47833797
Golarion has psionics, its fluff is 'mumble, mumble people are scared of it.' but other planets are said to have it, especially on the elven planet.
I'll see about grabbing you a screenshot.
So /pfg/, anything you're looking forward to during your next session?
>>47834946
Oh boy I'm sure there's just actual boatloads of information on the other planets too...
I think there's a few paragraphs crammed in the ass end of something per planet? Mostly because elves and their elfgates?
Alright, how bout a thread challenge, then.
Fluff out some "Working Stiff" magewright ish psionics professions. Psychoportic courier, investigator seer, etc. Pay attention to the structure of the organisation, and the training.
More on Ascetic Style question.
Can I use release the charge of touch spell (ie Frostbite) via Quarterstaff or is it still unarmed strike only?
>>47835135
>as well as effects that augment an unarmed strike, as if attacks with the weapon were unarmed attacks.
So maybe? That would be two feats for basically a spell-storing weapon, so that's what you should balance it by. If that's too good then don't allow it. If it's fine, allow it.
>>47835008
What kind of psionicist makes the best prostitute?
>>47835008
>>47834946
Wow, there's more than I recall, there are two whole pages of information on psionics, aren't we blessed?
>>47835223
Were certainly are (you) we certainly are.
>>47835192
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/psionic-powers/e/everyman
It requires level 4 though.
>>47835223
What book?
>>47835279
PZ01111 Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting.
>>47835290
Thanks.
I'm going to play a Samsaran Druid. What spell should I steal from Cleric/Shaman/Paladin/Inquisitor list?
Invisibility (Inquisitor)
Holy Sword (Paladin)
Blessing of Fervor (Cleric)
Breath of Life (Cleric)
Miracle (Cleric)
Anything else noteworthy? Are there any divine class with mirror image on their spell list?
Anyone have the hell knight PDF? Anything interesting on it?
What happened to my face?!
Hey /pfg/, I've got a question. Let's say you have a Sensei Monk. At level 12 he can use Abundant Step to teleport everyone within 30 feet to a location of his choosing. Is there a point to taking Dimensional Agility, since the allies he teleports will be able to act on their own turns normally?
Critique this please, /pfg/
Weapon Focus (Combat Proficiency)
Choose one weapon group. You can also choose grapple (or ray, if you are a spellcaster) as your weapon for the purposes of this proficiency.
Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You gain a +1 bonus on all attack rolls to your selected weapon group.
Upon reaching 3rd level and every two levels thereafter (5th, 7th, and so on), you gain an increased +1 bonus on all attack rolls you make using the selected weapon from an associated weapon group.
Special: Martial classes begin play with this Proficiency. This proficiency stacks with Weapon Training. A full caster must purchase this as a feat to gain this proficiency.
>>47835699
It just makes martials better at hitting things and doesn't solve their innate problems.
>>47835713
Well, I'm planning on slowly working my way through the different feats; this is just something to begin it all
>>47835713
What innate problems did you want to be solved through Weapon Focus?
Penetrating different DR types? other?
>>47835699
It gives all martials excellent hitting ability forever, and right from the start?
Wat
>>47835699
That's way too strong. It's up to an extra +10 to attacks for a single feat and it scales with level instead of BAB so a Wizard would have no reason not to take it and be just as combat competent as a normal Martial is now.
Make it scale with BAB and reduce it to every 4 BAB (so BAB 1, 5, 9, 13, 17). It's not bad as a buff to Fighters though since they could potentially get a free +5 (or +10) to every weapon they wield with it.
How to overcome immunity to critical hits?
Assume that mythic and DSP are on the table.
>>47835790
You don't unless it's Fortification armor, in which case you sunder it.
>>47835713
FantasyCraft has a bunch of mechanics you could potentially be inspired by
>>47835776
Nice, cheers, yeah, good point
I'll continue to fiddle with it
>>47834964
My PCs will be trying to take over a cult, so that's cool.
>>47835776
>>47835699
Weapon Focus (Combat Proficiency)
Choose one weapon group. You can also choose grapple (or ray, if you are a spellcaster) as your weapon for the purposes of this proficiency.
Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You gain a +1 bonus on all attack rolls to your selected weapon group.
Upon reaching base attack bonus +5 and every 4th base attack bonus thereafter (9th, 13th, 17th and so on), you gain an increased +1 bonus on all attack rolls you make using the selected weapon from an associated weapon group.
Special: Martial classes begin play with this Proficiency. This proficiency stacks with Weapon Training. A full caster must purchase this as a feat to gain this proficiency.
Guys, I'm trying to trim feat trees a bit, so far I thought about making all finessable weapons having innate dex-to-attack and Weapon Finesse giving it to all weapons, Combat Expertise is not a feat anymore, everyone can use it, all Combat Maneuvers are improved by one feat line. Anything else i should add?
>>47835865
More reasonable. Now you have to specify what "martial classes" entails. Classes with 0 casting? Classes with full BAB?
>>47835670
It's probably not worth taking for that reason since, like you said, their actions will be unaffected. On the other hand if you go up to Dimensional Dervish you could start teleporting your allies around instead of yourself during a full attack.
What gestalt combination should I go for if I want to be a Temple Warrior, Paizo only?
How fare your respective campaigns?
The tale of the faerie foxboy, foxgirl, and catgirl in Kingmaker ( https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47719513/#47724010 ) has, alas, come to a close due to a Skype exchange lasting nine messages.
In our Kingmaker session last week, our party of three 1st-level PCs had rushed straight towards the Stag Lord's fort, infiltrated it flawlessly, and knocked out and restrained every last bandit within the fort.
We were supposed to play this week, but the GM had arrived only during the tail end of the appointed time slot. The GM explained that they were busy with another game, they had completely forgotten about the Kingmaker game, they could not run the game today, and that they could linger to answer questions.
I brought up the topic of XP from the Stag Lord's fort, since that was something we neglected to discuss previously. The GM mentioned that we received full XP for each of the bandits we knocked out in their sleep, but only 1,455 XP for the Stag Lord himself (a CR 6 worth 2,400 XP).
Over the course of nine Skype messages, I protested this and asked why the GM would assign such an arbitrary XP reward for overcoming a major opponent, and the GM would reply with a cryptic "ad hoc adjustment" without further comment. The exchange ended with the GM outright ragequitting and ending the game right then and there.
We had no indicator that the GM was on the brink of quitting outright, let alone that questioning XP rewards would be their last straw.This GM, by the way, was adamant on using XP rewards rather than milestone-based leveling.This incident will forevermore be mysterious to the players who were abandoned.
>>47835886
Thanks brah
Martial classes should ideally include all full BAB types as well as partial casters, their benefit from this proficiency will be diminished slightly
So a magus gains a +3 bonus rather than the full +9 gained by a fighter
>>47834964
Hopefully the session will go without a hitch and we can finally wrap up this story arc. It was left off on a cliffhanger with the last boss fight of the chapterbecause my internet took a shit, and my fingers are crossed that we can wrap up that fight in the next 1-3 rounds. After that we begin our in-game 3-4 years of downtime/free roaming fucking off period and I've been looking forward to that for almost five months now.
>>47835937
Should be wrapping up within the next few sessions. This shit has been going for a year now, though it doesn't feel that long.
>>47834964
Finally hitting the battle with the BBEG and they're all looking forward to putting him down.
The problem is I want to have a 2 form fight where they have to solve a puzzle to debuff him but I'm out of ideas for the puzzle. Any ideas/inspiration /pfg/?
so lets say I wanted to make a character that increased his size and smashed things with his fists, is the best way to do that still druid/monk multiclass in pathfinder?
>>47835878
>making all finessable weapons having innate dex-to-attack and Weapon Finesse giving it to all weapons
This is a good idea
Have Combat Expertise still be a feat, but it gives Improved Combat Expertise and Greater Combat Expertise based on level, so additional feat sinks are unnecessary
>>47836014
It's been done before, Rasputin from RoW had a big machine that kept him alive. The puzzle should be the second form, otherwise it becomes a one-form fight where the second form is an afterthough.
>>47836025
Brute Vigilante if you want to be awful
>>47835468
SOMEONE
ANYONE
SHAREANON PLS
>>47836025
That's probably not a bad one, although Sacred Fist Warpriest might be better since they natively get 6th level casting for stuff that could improve your size. Or Alchemist, those are good for size increasing. Most of your damage is going to be from flat modifiers anyway, so the loss of damage dice isn't that big of a deal.
>>47836052
See the point is he's supposed to be receiving power from Pazuzu so they're meant to block/break the power in order to finish him off.
>>47835865
So, that's it?
>>47834409
dire rat
dog
junkyard cat (use small cat stats)
>>47836177
Ugh... so only shit tier companion? Dog is super fragile as an companion
>>47835192
Dread, she'll take you places you never knew you wanted to go.
>>47836054
I like the Bruce Banner flavor, but it doesn't look like I can get YUGE. The identity doesn't stack with with enlarge person or anything like that right?
>>47836025Metamorph Alchemist
>>47836207
It is an island, so I'm sure you can find a burd.
>>47835937
I've got two campaigns; one I'm playing in and one I'm running. The first has been on-going for about 4-5 years and we're almost done with it. Coincidentally, it's also Kingmaker. Our DM has gotten really frustrated with how poorly-written the last book in the AP is, and we've got one player who will have to move out-of-state next month so we're in a hurry to try and finish the campaign before he leaves, but I think we're also excited to be so close to completing this long adventure.
The second campaign one I'm running, like I said, and it's pretty new. Only one session in so far, discounting Session 0. It's for a different group than the one I'm playing the first campaign with, and is an online game instead of a meat space one. It's too early to really say how things are going, but I'm both nervous and excited to see how things will play out.
>>47836231
Enlarge Person doesn't stack with magical effects but Brute Form is Ex
>>47836261
Axe Beak might be the best choice then. It's listed as the second popular mount in town.
>>47836051
Combat expertise requires 13 in what is a dump stat for most partials because lolfuckyou, and no one actually uses it; when anyone takes it, it's because it's a prerequisite for a bunch of other feats. It needs to go.
>>47835865
Someone should post that on the paizo forums
>>47835316
Any more suggestion? I found Dominate Person on Shaman list and Litany of Vengeance on Paladin list. Are those worth taking?
>>47835316
Sorry, but mystic past life only allows you to pick one other class' spell list. For a fullcaster, I recommend inquisitor or paladin. They get high-level spells at a relatively low spell level because they only have partial casting, but it works much better for you.
>>47836025
Deuregar Monk
>>47835790
Harbinger 19-Your maneuvers now ignore immunities on the enemy.
Is it worth making a girl account to posthomebrew?
>>47836688
>girl account
What?
>>47836688
>girl account
Anon...
>>47836688
Giant in the playground, not girl. How the fuck did my autocorrect fuck that up, and why does 4chan never abort a post when I press the button.
>>47836695
>>47836698
Sorry, meant girl account.
>>47836540
I don't see "one other class" restriction.
Maybe I'm blind, but could you elaborate on that?
>>47836707
Then yes.
>>47836721
Hahahahaha
/tg/, create a silly, yet effective build. Bard with Weird Words? Color Spray everything? SHOW ME.
>>47836725
The wording says "another spellcasting class" singular. Not "other spellcasting classes" plural.
>>47836748
Alchemist Vivisectionist as a master chef
>>47836776
Hmm.. I guess I would go with Inquisitor then... maybe pick up stuff that Druid lack.
Divine Power (haste effect)
Break Enchantment
Restoration
>>47836748
Old Lady Stalker with innocuous servant, Mythril Currant, and a set of extra sharp sewing needles.
She gathers info for her party by pretending to be a scullery maid, then knits them comfy sweaters and scarves during their downtime.
Yo, DSPfags, does Raging Hulk work with Invulnerable Rager?
Asking since Paizo recently published a FAQ saying Invulnerable Ragers aren't eligible for the Extra DR rage power due to trading away the Damage Reduction class feature.
>>47836014
Four towers, all based on elements, (fire, water, acid, air)
Towers must be deactivated, smashed, other otherwise neutralized.
As the PCs deactivate them, the others become empowered.
Towers summon enemies and cast spells themed to their element.
Summoned enemies get stronger and spells become more powerful, according to which towers are done last.
Example: Fire tower starts the fight summoning small fire elementals, and casting produce flame, if done last, it might be casting empowered fireballs and summoning large fire elementals.
All towers are proving a shield to BBEG, shield gets weaker as more towers are removed.
>>47834964
General undead antics as we travel across the countryside in our walking undead fortress. We're currently wanted fugitives in said country so fun should occur, seeing how easy we are to spot inside a 3 story tall skeleton.
>>47835937
Which one of them is pic related?
>>47835865
Where is more?
>>47837128
>Invulnerability (Ex): At 2nd level, the invulnerable rager gains DR/— equal to half her barbarian level. This damage reduction is doubled against nonlethal damage. This ability replaces uncanny dodge, improved uncanny dodge, and damage reduction.
>Raging Hulk: For the purpose of level requirements for rage powers or astral suit customizations, add your levels of barbarian and aegis together. Damage reduction from either class stacks. In addition, any time you enter a rage, you can activate augment suit as a free action.
Why wouldn't they work together? Actually the DR should stack already (since both are DR/-), unless Paizo changed that from 3.5.
>>47837479
>Why wouldn't they work together?
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9uqg
>The rage power refers to the class feature damage reduction, meaning that it doesn’t help invulnerable ragers’ invulnerability class feature. The suggestion for the archetype to take that rage power in the suggested rage powers is in error and will be removed in the next errata.
>>47837490
God damn are they not even pretending to despise martials anymore?
>>47837526
I worded that poorly but you know what I mean, fucking piazo
>>47837490
>>47837526
Yep, at this point they're actively ignoring what the text says.
>>47834964
Fighting those disgusting half-ogres in the Sketter Ditches. And the shadow stirges. And their bristle boars. And bartering with that fat Zhaan-look-alike bloodrager AGAIN..
>>47836748
Alchemist with the Syringe Stirge discovery who creates a number of stirges, uses a Volatile Vaporizer on an infusion of Invisibility, and poses while the stirges seek and destroy.
>>47834385
So for some reason I can't copy and paste the trove link on my phone. Could somebody do a brother a favor?
>>47837930
https://mega.nz/#F!dsxR3KCJ!tbmlmKB_IsgDtzzrlXkVVQ!p4xAFZZR
>>47837128
>>47837490
So, anyone from DSP here? Gareth? Forrest?
>>47837985
Based
>>47837526
Oh no no no, friend. They don't hate martials. They hate old martials in older books.
They want you to buy the Unchained book. By taking away the DR heavy IR build that actually made low AC Barbs work, they just made it so now you have to be Unchained Barbarian if you want the best DR. There's a post on the Paizo thread that goes into detail:
Level: IR / UB
Level 1: 0 / 0
Level 2: 1 / 0
Level 3: 1 / 0
Level 4: 2 / 0
Level 5: 2 / 0
Level 6: 3 / 0
Level 7: 3 / 1
Level 8: 4 / 7
Level 9: 4 / 7
Level 10: 5 / 8
Level 11: 5 / 8
Level 12: 6 / 8
Level 13: 6 / 9
Level 14: 7 / 9
Level 15: 7 / 9
Level 16: 8 / 10
Level 17: 8 / 10
Level 18: 9 / 10
Level 19: 9 / 11
Level 20: 10 / 11
Unchained is now better at DR for a majority of levels than the archetype literally designed to have the most DR. And better yet, you don't even lose uncanny dodge and such -- just some rage powers which are in ample supply for medium level barbarians.
It's the same reason they just now nerfed courageous weapons despite being apparently fine with them for years before. Courageous was a bit of system mastery/exploit that worked with original Barbarians and how their bonuses interacted. Unchained comes out and they re-examine stuff like that and take it away.
Same reason they started coming down hard on Dex to Damage options after Unchained came out -- now Unchained Rogue is your most efficient/versatile dex build.
>>47838046
How do you get that much DR? Rage powers?
>>47838084
Yes, taking the Improved Rage power. Pazio's shit and all, but it doesn't really make much sense as an argument in favor of the UB.
>>47838046
See, the thing is, unchained rogue being the most efficient/versatile Dex build is A-okay in theory, and they have good reasons for not wanting to just make Dex be an even bigger god stat. But they've nerfed all the other options so hard, yet never made rogueeven unchainedworth playing over anything else. Any other class with Fencing Grace is usually still better off than a rogue overall, even if fencing grace is even shittier than it was before. At best UCRogue is a 3-level dip for martials, or a passive class for gestalts, and even then you might be better off picking another class that offers more overall. Like the Vigilante.
>>47837998
Forrest is working, I can't answer rules questions, and we haven't had time to chew this over. I can only ask your patience.
>>47838084
The UB has better Increased Damage Reduction rage powers so you just take those 3 times and you beat out Invulnerable rager. This assumes retraining is allowed.
>>47838212
Vigilante is trash.
>>47836740
He's not wrong.
As /pfg/ has proven, we're far more willing to listen to the homebrew ideas of a woman than a man.
>>47838246
I bet you're going to say some sort of caster is better at that job, you hypocrite.
>Oh woe is me! Casters get all these awesome toys, and martials get fucked over!
>Wait, what's that? You want to play a martial? Fuck you! Play a caster!
This is literally how 90% of the conversations go with you chucklefucks.
/pfg/ how do I maximum TTGL a boss fight?
>>47838287
Massive thighs.
>>47838246
>The Vigilante is trash
And the rogue is a useless piece of dogshit. The point still stands that you'd still be better off playing the Vigilante instead of the rogue in almost all instances, save maybe a few really out-there gimmick builds.Base vigilante's are still high T4 at minimum, tho.
>>47838275
But I do play a Caster when I want to have fun....
I don't see the issue. I just think everybody should have the same amount of Versatility and options.
>>47838287
You don't because that shit and it's memes are so tired and worn out at this point.
There is a reason /m/ hates it's 'fans' and the first blush newfags who are not actually interested in the genre but there because of memetics and Gainax being the weeb and Otaku Messiah
>>47838275
That's some serious projection there, anon. Here, let me answer my thought process by responding to someone else.
>>47838311
Nah, I just don't like your solution to someone playing a shitty class that does nothing being to play a very marginally less shitty class that does something poorly.
>>47838361
>>47838287
What the fuck is TTGL anyway? I've never watched the show but I know plenty about it because everywhere I go I see chucklefucks wearing the glasses and going all CHURNING INNER SPIRIT or some bullshit.
>>47838311
I showed my boyfriend the Vigilante, and the first thing he did was put together a mix of Batman and Zorro. Stalker specialization, the Fast Getaway rogue Talent, Decoy Ring, Twisting Fear, and Whip of Vengeance. Skill unlock for intimidate is also recommended, though not necessary.
The result is that you have a guy that hits someone from about ten feet away and then vanishes, leaving behind an team of illusory duplicates, so that he can do it again and again, and every time he hits someone he appears again, and Twisting Fear does his Hidden Strike damage as nonlethal, so he can constantly pop in around the battlefield causing people to panic and eventually pass out from fear.
>>47838397
It takes the whole "shonen fighting spirit" trope and exaggerates it into infinite power, basically. The more you believe you can win the more powerful you are, and the final boss is basically "But if you get too strong bad things happen!"
This entire thing manifests as giant robot fights.
>>47838226
Ok.
>>47838364
>That's some serious projection there, anon. Here, let me answer my thought process by responding to someone else.
It's literally the go-to response to everyone asking about build ideas in this fucking general, you silly billy goat.
Someone wants to play a swordsman? Make an Aegis. Bowmaster? Go Cleric! A sneaky freaky backstabbing boy wonder? Well sorry anon, but you're going to be playing a wizard.
It's *exhausting* talking to you guys about classes and constantly trying to wriggle you back into the fact that no, I *don't* want a spell-list.
>>47838429
That whole premise was already done by other shows decades ago. GaoGsiGar, Getter Robo, etc.
TTGL is supposed to be a homage to all of those shows the Gainax dudes grew up with but newfags with no experience in the mechanics genre of course can't see this.
Hello /pfg/, I'm relatively new to pathfinder. I'm currently in my third campaign ever so I have a limited amount of knowledge.
So, I've decided to play a MachineSmith from the compatible Neoexodus books and I was a bit confused on crafting constructs when it comes to the class. A vast majority of the class special abilities encourage crafting skills and in particular, crafting constructs. Even giving you for free Craft Construct at 15th level. However, the class doesn't provide you with most of the spells in the prototypes list that are required to build constructs. The key one being Geas/Quest. Is there any work around to that other than just getting someone else in the party to substitute those spells? I'd prefer to create constructs by myself for the party instead of having to rely on them everytime I need to create a construction.
>>47838471
>mecha genre
Also, most of TTGL was actually robots, only the finale featured spiritual manifestations on another dimension fighting on a cosmic scale.
>>47838471
>mechanics genre
I know what you meant, but I just imagined an entire genre of FF15 Cids
>>47838471
I know. I didn't say it wasn't. I just dumbed it down and spoonfed it to the curious guy. It's a perfectly serviceable show that, like most super popular shows, isn't really worth the hype.
>>47838484
Except for the crafting feat, you can ignore prerequisites for magic item creation by increasing the DC by 5. Doesn't apply to spell completion and spell trigger items.
>>47838457
>I *don't* want a spell-list.
Then stop playing 3.5. Having a spell list is like a basic, fundamental part of being competent. Having a spell list is the first step to actually having options and being able to work against the way the mechanics are built, against monsters in battle, against skill challenges, and against unorthodox situations.
When people wanted to make martial fighters that competed with the game, they gave the martial classes a spell list they could choose. When they wanted to make the Rogue better, they gave a list of options that you could choose ahead of time, talents that gave you permanent special abilities that'd make a list you can use. When they added powers to the Barbarian, they added Rage Powers that give them a nice, comprehensive list of times that they could do something cool. Again and again, first-party and third-, Pathfinder is about the spell list.
>>47838537
Considering how prolific 2hu is, I'm actually surprised there hasn't been a Momiji edit of that webm yet.
>>47838545
It's a good watch and the movies have some great animation but it never really touches on anything substantial or asks any really thought-provoking questions of its audience, nor does it critique anything besides the usual Trend in Japanese media of the old generation needing to stand aside for the new.
Maybe I'm just one of those high-minded faggots who thinks Light and, to a lesser extent, MSG are what media people should be consuming when anime Scofield and mechs become involved.
Explain to me in few words what's pathfinder like?
It's the only game I could find party for in my city.
>>47838603
>LoGH
stupid phone
>>47838618
I'll do it in one.Cancer
>>47838618
Complicated, touchy, divisive, lethal and prolific.
>>47838603
>It's a good watch and the movies have some great animation but it never really touches on anything substantial or asks any really thought-provoking questions of its audience, nor does it critique anything besides the usual Trend in Japanese media of the old generation needing to stand aside for the new.
So it's empty calories, the equivalent of eating a bag of doritos.
I can see why so many people are utterly obsessed with it.
>>47838618
An overly complicated and imbalanced mess.
>>47838618
It's a piece of shit.
Play 5e instead.
>>47838567
>give class a cool list of things they can get that let them do something
>"IT'S ALL SPELL LISTS GUYS"
>Vigilantes have a big list of cool things they can get that let them do something, and have one of the best "not-spell-list" available to "martials"
>"IT'S SHIT AND YOU SHOULD NEVER USE IT"
I seriously don't understand what kind of point you're trying to make here, anon. We all know casters are better than martials in pathfinder, all you're doing is screaming and throwing a bitchfit that someone DARE THINKS a martial class actually didn't get totally shafted out of the gate.
>>47838651
Can't find party for 5e though.
>>47838618
Only used because its system is DnD-esque and readily free/available through online means. Otherwise an unsalvageable game
Hey guys, I'm currently making some homebrew Initiating Archetypes for ACG classes and am currently working on Bloodrager.
I'd like to pick your collective brains for ideas for abilities, themes, and references.
So far all I have is replacing Bloodrage bonuses with a Vitae pool that charges based off of time spent raging, performing bloodline spells by expending Vitae and a manuever, Bloodline-tied disciplines, andsprinkled referenced to Bloodborne and Wheel of Time
>>47838618
poorly balanced 3.5 legacy, with a few good things. A very good GM, a willing party, and perhaps a pinch of 3pp can make it great fun though
>>47838579
I'm surprised no one has made a Greta edit of Momiji yet
Do you still eat the -2 penalty for oversized weapons even if you grab say a large long sword with two hands?
>>47838668
Well, then you're shit out of luck.
You can try, but it's suffering.
>>47838675
I think Greta isn't particularly popular outside of /pfg/.
>>47838715
This, outside of anude by Nesounshe's practically unknown.
>>47838683
Yes. A large longsword counts as a two-handed weapon for medium characters and you can't wield it in one hand at all unless you have a class feature or other ability that lets you use oversized weapons.
So lots of questions came up in my last session, some of which I'll ask later, but my current one is this;
I've got a player who wants to try a Vigilante, because he's not having fun with his Occultist.
The problem is, he can't really do the normal Vigilante thing (the iconic Red Raven dude), because...there's already a character like that in the campaign. We all agree that with Blackjack running around the city, we don't want to put a second costumed hero on the streets.
So what other options are there for this class? I'm just cracking open the book now, but I'm hoping you guys can help me understand what I'm working with here.
>>47838751
He could play a Mahou Shoujo
>>47838779
He can not play a Mahou Shoujo.
>>47838751
You don't have to be a costumed superhero. It isn't a requirement, it's just pushed by the fluff because paizo is retarded. Just tweak the dual identity so that it is literally just "you have two seperate identities that are both functionally identical, save that people think they're two different people" instead of "this is your average joe identity, and this is your superhero identity, and people think they're two different people".Basically, make it a ghetto shapeshifting.
>>47838751
He can take that one cult leader archetype, so he can become theGREATEST COOL
>>47838804
Isn't that for Mesmerist?
>>47838751
How far along are you in the campaign? Because this is a problem that could very well solve itself pretty soon depending on where you guys currently are.
>>47838832
I think he means the Cabalist archetype for the Vigilante. Which actually is pretty decent for playing Gilles De Rais.
Whats a good rage power to take as a primal disciple barb?
>>47838832
I'm mean the Cabalist for Vigilante
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/vigilante/archetypes/vigilante-archetypes---paizo-inc/cabalist
>>47838866
In CoCT? About 2/3 of the way through Book 2. If you're referring to the events of Book 3, I obviously already know about them, and would normally just push him in that direction exceptThere's another PC in the party, a Swashbuckler, who already made his own Blackjack costume and will most likely dive on the opportunity to take his place when they find out he's disappeared in Book 3. I don't want 2 players fighting over the same role.
Is Irabeth really that bad of an NPC in Wrath of the Righteous? Trannies aside, is she really as much of a spotlight stealer as /pfg/ likes to imply?
Are there any NPCs that do this?
>>47838885
Anyone?
>>47839508
>pfg
>playing martials
>>47838885
You can never go wrong with the spell sunder line.
>>47837490
Aside from PFS, are there any GMs that actually give any fucks about FAQs and errata and shit? I know I don't.
>>47839599
Lot's of people use the SRD as their primary source, and it's changed to match the errata.
>>47839599
>>47839668
Alongside that anybody who buys a newer printing of the book will get the errata, whether or not they know it exists.
If you take racial heritage for half giant could you take one of their base racial traits such as powerful build?
>>47834964
No, there are things I -need- to do. So we have some hope of saving the frigging town from the blue dragon we were supposed to kill.
>>47839819
The easiest way to save a town from the dragon's wrath is tell the townsfolk to worship it and give it all their shinies or they'll die.
>>47839837
See, they did that, and apparently got tired of it after a long time. Which is why we need to kill it. But it got warned by some FUCKASS, so now it's gone.
>>47839876
You're fucked if it's smart.
>>47839912
That's why I am not looking forward to it.
Why shouldn't I disregard Dex as a TWF Ranger?
>>47834385
>alex "furfag" augunas
>good
>>47840130
Because Str is shit and you should go for Dex any chance you're given
What are some good classes for a demon-blooded Tiefling?
Is Paladin really that cliche?
>>47840237
Oradin with fey foundling and the tiefling FCB? Oracle could work as well, bloodrager too.
>>47840237
Skald could be good
Come one
>>47840260
What is fey founding from??
>>47838675
How about a bloodrager archetype based around the blistering invective spell? Like Robotnik from the old cartoon, just throws a tantrum and hurts his opponents with a bellowing rant.
Or better yet, new bloodlines! I've always wanted to play an aquatic or verdant bloodrager.
>>47840340
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/fey-foundling
>Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide
If I get Mythic Power Attack, does it enhance my two handed attacks like normal Power Attack or does it only work on one handed weapons?
>>47840260
>>47840279
What if I told you it's gestalt?
We've already got an Oradin and I'm trying to figure out the most heartthrob Tiefling ever, becauseall our class roles are filled and I like tickling one of our player's hard (implied) kinks in monstrous, dorky men.
>>47840362
It modifies how power attack works, so you'd look back at power attack
>When you use Power Attack, you gain a +3 bonus on melee damage rolls instead of +2. When your base attack bonus reaches +4 and every 4 points thereafter, the amount of bonus damage increases by +3 instead of +2.
>This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon
Damage should be 4, 9, 13, 18, 22, 27
>>47840384
Oracle/Fighter to gish it up?
>>47840207
>being a twink
>>47840237
Last time I played a Tiefling it was a Deamon blooded alchemist VMC oracle with hunger curse.
Demons it depends on what kind of demon you're descended from.
>>47840130
AC. Also the weapon finesse chain.
>>47840464
Physical attributes don't determine your physical body.
A guy with huge muscles can have STR 8.
>>47840560
Are you retarded
>>47840560
t. Tumblr
>>47840458
>>47840475
I'll have to consider those, either a big ole fighter dork or partially disabled alchemical dork.
>>47840575
No, I'm Thomas.
>>47840575
>>47840592
FYI you are allowed to fluff your character however you want.
>>47840354
>How about a bloodrager archetype based around the blistering invective spell? Like Robotnik from the old cartoon, just throws a tantrum and hurts his opponents with a bellowing rant.I'm already planning to do something like that with Skald
>new Bloodlines
I may in the future, but not today. Right now I wanna get the Initiating Bloodrager to a serviceable state first before moving on.
>>47838618
It's bad, but less so than its competitors. You'll have fun if you're with the right people.
>>47840622
And other people are allowed to assume you're retarded and mock you based on your chosen fluff.
>>47840575
He's right in a way. You know those chiseled as fuck Mr Universe guys? They're nowhere near as strong as they look. Look at worlds strongest men competitions, guys who drag literal trains, those guys may look fat but that fat is feeding enough muscle to hurl boars across rivers.
>>47840622
>my STR 7 Cha 7 Wizard is super hot and muscular
>>47840404
>mfw my DM messaged me telling me that my power attack was off
>tfw he said he searched up paizo forums and that they said the 50% doesn't happen with mythic power attack
>this was probably in response to me almost one shotting the boss
I searched myself and the forum on paizo had only one person who said mythic power attack didn't affect regular power attack.
>>47838651
Or he could watch paint dry, it'll be about as exciting as playing 5e.
>>47840651
>>47840658
Synthol and the being a good looking creep who doesn't know how to communicate.
>>47840622
refluffing works up to a certain point
>but I have 5 charisma, but I'm really a super popular super model that everyone adores
>I have 7 intelligence, but my character is totally a genius mathematician
When you start re fluff shit that is in direct opposition to what you're character sheet would indicate, you may as well just free form.
>>47840655
Sure, lad, but they're not fucking 8 Str either. If they have prominent muscles, it is because they have actual muscle mass. Not because they're weaker than the average person.
What's a dead simple character with no options that is still useful?
I mean, not a Fighter, but a simple character with no spells, maneuvers, powers, whatever, that still manages to be useful to the party and fun to play.
My friend wants to join our PF group but he can't be bothered to do complicated shit in fights, he just wants in on the RP. What should I suggest he plays?
>>47840655
The issue is, I doubt those Mr.Universe guys are super dextrous either. PF stats scale pretty fucking wonky. but a 8 strength character would not be muscular. Athletic, yeah, but not muscular.
>>47838668
Why would you want to? 5e isn't for players, it's for bad DMs who want to have their power trips without there being actual rules for players to contradict them with.
>>47840695
>no options
>still useful
Pick one and only one.
>>47840695
Another game.
>>47840695
Nothing, simple and useful(in the way you describe) is not a thing in pathfinder. Play something else.
I want to be super weak mechanically but still ultra powerful and I don't want to think. Tell me how to do this or you're all liar degenerate faggot idiots.
>>47840658
Eh, I played once a 7 Cha Aasimar archer that was a prettyboy that was extremely shy in social situations, particularly because he was ashamed at his utter lack of manliness amongst fellow martials.
>>47840719
Wizard, of course.
>>47840733
>wizard
>super weak mechanically
cuck retard paidrone detected
>>47840695
Unchained Barbarian is the only option, only because it has less math since that seems to be what you friend can handle
>>47840740
Are you dumb?
>>47840751
autist sperglord touhou confirmed
>>47840751
Just ignore him, he's a super obvious shitposter. He's looking for (You)s and will leave without them
>>47840769
I've been here over a year, don't worry. I'm never leaving.
Is there any way to accommodate a non-gestalt character in a party of gestalt characters?
Maybe give him a bunch of extra feats or something?
Is it even possible?
I've got a player in one of my games that is adamant on playing JUST a Magus for whatever reason and wants to not be Gestalt. He says he's okay with being weaker than everyone else. I'd still like to keep him in line with the rest of the party, though.
>>47840795
Tell him to just choose fighter on the other side.
>>47840795
Tell us what everyone else is capable of doing. If the magus can perform on the same general level, then he'll be fine.
>>47840795
Make him have a feat every level and give him full bab with d10. Stealth-gestalt him with a fighter.
>>47840804
I have!
He strictly refuses to partake in the Gestalt system.
>>47840809
I've got an Oradin, a PsyArm//Inquisitor and an OD Warder//Mystic
He'd need a bit of help, definitely.
>>47840821
That's not a bad idea, actually.
>>47840795
Make him the party cocksleeve.
>>47840695
A real character's familiar.
>>47840837
Tell him to find a different game. Most of us can only dream of playing Gestalt, and here he's refusing to do so just to be contrarian.
>>47840795
>guy playing a magus in a gestalt game
>refuses to partake in all the cool shit you can gestalt with a magus
>ACTIVELY REFUSES TO USE GESTALT
How can one man be THIS MUCH OF A FAGGOT?
>>47840874
This is a friend-group game and everyone loves this guy. It's not really an option kick him out.
>>47840874
>tfw two gestalt characters atm
>>47840903
>tfw three gestalt characters atm one of which is mythic
>>47840902
Find better, less retarded friends.
>TFW Bushi and Dervish Defender don't stack.
But how am I to get my Daisho Dual Wield on?
>>47840916
>tfw all five of my 3.pf gestalt characters are epic and mythic
>>47840929
>tfw my tristalt mythic epic character succeeded in her plot to release rovagug and killed all the gods and destroyed the universe
>>47840899
I'm convinced half of /pfg/ hasn't ever gestalted. It's really not all it's cracked up to be.
Gestalting basically exasperates and punishes people who don't want to spend all day cheesing their character. It only really makes the gap between the super experienced players and regulars worse.
>>47840923
You aren't, fuck you
>>47840940
>only tristalt
>only one universe
>tfw my omnistalt character has crossed over into multiple other systems and is destroying their universes
>>47840940
>tfw running quadstalt epic mythic right now
>>47840923
Suck It up and take ewp and daisho expert, dual wield wakizashi.
>>47840968
>>47840967
>tfw my character become so powerful that it took control of me and I killed my GM, effectively snuffing out infinite universes
>>47840946
Newfags need to learn. Sometimes that is done through suffering.
>>47840983
>tfw I am your character
>tfw this is the singularity
>>47840983
>tfw my character is currently making America great again
>>47841006
Bernie????
>>47840996
Why the fuck should they learn a rare, unofficial play varient that seldom comes up in the first place.
I thought the whole point of gestalting was having fun and playing character concepts that you wouldn't necessarily get to play otherwise due to mechanical hassle. Not cheesing for the sake of cheesing.
Guys, what race would I play if I wanthorse-dickwithout being a Centaur or Minotaur or whatever other -taurs there are?
>>47841033
Human. Racial Heritage, man.
>>47840996
Also, this isn't necessarily "new player tier" this is "guy who makes reasonable characters getting made into a butt boy by the other 2 players who spend 10+ years playing 3.5 and at least half a decade making silly shit on min max boards" shit.
>>47841033
tiefling/aasimar/changeling/skinwalker or changer or whatever the beast race is.
>>47841033
An awakened horse is your best bet.
>>47841033
Tiefling.
No, seriously, they probably havehorse-dick.
>>47841024
Or it could be used to help bad classes. Like a Paladin|Monk, or anything with full BAB really.
>>47840703
This.
I've found two 5e DMs in my town.
one has played /one/ 5e campaign, as a player, and immediately decided she would make her own deal where it's entirely based off of fairy tail, ignoring/plugging rules whereever she wants, and renaming basically 90% of the stuff in game to fit fairy tail.
The other ignores rules and comes up with as much bullshit as he wants, like enemies having "bloodied" instant attacks, attacks on death, monsters being able to attack of opportunity when someone -enters- their threat range, constantly argues with the rogue about how disengage works after it's been pointed out like 8 times, lets certain players use their multi-attack to cast spells and still have 1-2 more attacks because "it's an attack, right? so they should be able to replace it with spells" despite the fact that it nullifies the entire Eldritch Knight class...
it's a fucking mess.
5e would be great, if it weren't for the awful, awful GMs.
>>47841050
Naw man, Aasimar are forbarbed dicks.
Skinwalkers are forthe knot.
