I just realized the thread dies because we can't complain about prices like other formats or bannings or fakes etc.
>MTGO Pauper Guide
https://www.cardhoarder.com/mtgo-beginner-guide
>What are some top tier decks I can get on MTGO/Paper?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper
>BUT I WANT TO SEE ALL VIABLE DECKS!
http://tappedout.net/users/fruuty/deck-folders/
>Which rules should I follow?
If you don't already have some homebrew version with friends, follow the MTGO card pool and banlist (and please spread this to your friends that start playing with you). Currently the only place Pauper is officially supported by Wizards is online, and they have a card pool and banlist, therefore that is the format we should be using offline on paper as well, since decks and cards can transfer to games between each other with no confusion.
>WAHHH THATS TOO HARD WHERE...
http://www.mtg-hunter.com
The bottom left has a box, select MTGO Pauper, all cards in the card pool and banlist are taken into account.
>What deck should I use?
Ask in the thread!
>Is MTGO worth it?
If you have no local paper competition, but want to play a vast amount of Pauper, it can't be beat, even if it is a clunky GUI, you learn quickly.
Some good decks for newbies include but are not limited to:
>Burn
>Elves
>Goblins
>Stompy
>Slivers
>Affinity
>Mono U control
>UB Teachings
Lets kick this thread off!
Pic related is my new brew around kroalsan tusker. The idea is to play value creatures to ramp to a point when I can cast grim harvest every turn for extra value and start beating face with my 6/5.
Removal suite is a little of everything because im not sure yet what do I need.
Spicy cards:
Undying evil because when it works it's a bomb!
Yavimaya Elder: I was playing a Nissa's Pilgrimage because drawing 3 for 3 ia nice even if they are forests. But this one also attacks
>>47826806
Oh, the proxied cards are Echoing Decay and Gnaw to the Bone, because I don't have them with me now.
Where are the mongoose and drake decks, Eggman?
>>47827443
There are not any because 2 cards at common don't make a meta change.
My battle box is taking forever because my wife will only let me buy one deck a month. I have burn and Rebels, what should I get next? Stompy? Delver? I'm going to proxy Obuliette until I can afford them for MBC. Chainer's isn't super cheap either I guess.
>>47828518
Your wife is doing you a favor. If you buy all decks at once you just get bored afterwards.
>>47827443
I am going to try Mongoose in the sideboard of my BG TE deck. I'll post here about how that goes once I've done some testing.
Also, was going through my cards last night and realized the key pieces of my old standard Axebane Guardian/Galvanic Alchemist shitbrew are common. Before I try to put that back together, are there any pauper untap effects that will go infinite with less than four defenders?
I have a tortured existence and UW tron deck built. My main question is, what is the proper build for Drake combo in tron? Do you drop the W altogether and go super counterspell heavy?
>>47832654
How do you build UW Tron? I've seen monogreen and RUG/artifact manafixing versions. What is the appeal of white?
>>47832729
White gets you O-ring and the two mana removal enchantment that I cannot remember because of headache. The other big draw is rhystic circle. Signets are also really neat so you don't need to rely on tron lands as much.
>>47832747
Journey to Nowhere.
>>47832791
Thank you. I'm going to sleep, will post my list in the morning, if the thread doesn't get strangled in the night.
>>47832803
Hopefully it won't. Summer shitposting isn't quite as bad during the middle of the night in North America.
Is Elf tribal or non-tribal goodstuff a better way to build G aggro/stompy?
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=12751&f=PAU
Played in an 8 man tourney at my LGS today
Played burn
>Lost to elves, was decently close but his draws were just too explosive
>Hosed tron, terrible matchup for her, nothing she could really do post board either
>Hosed grixis teachings, it was some weird non combo control build, pretty close match, he drew like 4 hydro blasts first post board game and I couldn't get through, beat him game three when he mulled to 5
>Beat monoblack control, had all my creatures in the board, lost game one to a weak keep and then got him game two with sided in creatures and then got him game three by taking them out again
>>47833448
Absolutely not.
>>47833514
I love Burn. Fuck the haters.
>>47831521
How are you liking tortured existence? I recently put it together but have been having trouble beating grindy control decks. Maindeck bojuka bog is a bitch
>>47833593
Burn is pretty fun, can't complain.
>>47828518
Eh, I negotiated that with my wife too. Can't deny though, >>47831098 has a point.
Build Delver. Always play Delver. Even if it isn't the most busted deck, Snap and Gush and Spellstutter Sprite are so fun to play.
Anyone see goldfishman's GW tokens deck with the infinite combo? Pretty neat, uses Midnight Guard & Presence of Gond
>>47834033
Uh. Otherwise known as midnight gond.
>>47833704
I've only played a couple of control decks, so not much experience with the matchup. My plan is to jam in more threats postboard and try to keep them from stabilizing, though. Extra Arrogant Wurm and some Mongoose.
>>47832803
4x Tower
4x Mine
4x Power Plant
4x Tranquil Cove
2x Remote Isle
2x Island
1x Plains
4x Journey to Nowhere
2x Oblivion Ring
2x Rhystic Circle
4x Mulldrifter
4x Sea Gate Oracle
2x Ulamog's Crusher
4x Expedition Map
4x Prophetic Prism
4x Azorious Signet
4x Dispel
4x Condescend
1x Capsize
>>47826066
I'm still sad we didn't get Chainer's Edict at common in Eternal Masters.
>>47835978
Oops, replace Dispel with Repeal.
>>47835973
I like the shroud approach, I was thinking of trying out blastoderm
Do you think arrogant wurm is better than angler?
>>47836575
I run both. Wurm is better from a card advantage standpoint because with Tortured Existence out it buys back a creature when you cast is (and has flash). Angler is more mana efficient and can close games early, but it's not as easy to reuse as the Wurm if it dies, and the card advantage from Wurm and Grave Scrabbler helps out grind opponents in the late game.
>>47836575
>>47836718
I currently run 2 Arrogant Wurm, 2 Angler mainboard with a third Wurm in the side, but I am pretty new to the deck, so this isn't necessarily the best split.
Is SinkHole legal?
Playing Pauper Mono White Soldiers.
War Falcon x4
Elite Vanguard x 4
Raise the Alarm x3
Veteran Swordsmith x4
Veteran Armorsmith x4
Ballynock Cohort x3
Topan Freeblade x4
Gempalm Avenger x4
Ballyrush Banneret x3
Journey to Nowhere x1
Oust x3
Celestial Flare x2
Bonesplitter x2
x2 Secluded Steepe
x19 Plains
I'm still unsure about Oust. Delver decks can just grab them back, and organize the deck so it can flip on my endstep. I don't want to spend on Journey to Nowhere, Should I go with Oblivion Ring?
>>47837152
Why not Sunlance over O-Ring? It will kill most things in the format. You could put O-Ring in the side for Anglers.
>>47837504
Sunlance hurts me way too much G1 on matchups against common meta decks like Tron, Angler is also everywhere.
>>47826806
brainstorm is much worse without shuffle effects.
>>47838144
There are 3 fetches, 4 viridian emissary and 4 tuskers. Shuffling isn't that hard.
>>47828518
you went from "my mom" to "my wife"
Way to live your life, beta.
>>47839153
the only shuffle I saw was the tusker, couldn't tell what a lot of the cards were. it's really common mistake new pauper players do is to jam 4 brainstorm because it's played in legacy.
How good is this deck? I'm v hype to break into pauper by cheesing people out with 1/1sgone sexual
Anyone have any experience running infect?
>>47839541
Amazing.
Highly inevitable if your oponnent don't have enough removal. Sideboard options can turn it to dust though.
Hey lads, this is my first pauper deck. I'm still pretty new despite having a shitload of cards from gifts over the last few years. Please rate/give advice on my deck here.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lightwalker-1-shenanigans/
>>47839374
Yeah. I'm sad but hey, I get to play with my friends.
Just kidding I have no friends.
Top fun decks are
Delver
UB control
Tron
Prove me wrong.
>>47843551
Does Delver include the all delver decks or just the mono-U one?
>>47843627
Mono u
>>47843779
But DelverFiend is a blast to play and UB Delver is also fun as fuck.
Delver itself is a fun card.
>>47843923
You asked, I answered.
>>47843551
>not Canadian threshold
>>47843551
Tron gets shitted by MBC. Delver is only fun if you like playing alone. UB Control is even worse on that regard.
>>47846418
Good job bringing up other alternatives dumbass.
Pauper is fun. Its actually fun even if you don't buy cards for it and just use what you have. Anyone can make a decent aggro deck. I got my friends at least warmed to it by playing them with a mono white equipment deck I threw together that they had a decent chance against.
Of course, pic related is where the fun's at.
>>47834033
I once built a modern deck around that and demolished my play group. If you use it with well wisher, soul warden, essence warden, or soul's attendant you can become the INFINITE LIFE INFINITE ELF god.
>>47848612
Gimme a disciple list, I have 4 lying around and I want to make something.
>>47849342
The usual. Affinity with Atog as the sac outlet and flings as a finisher.
>mfw i pulled a foil mongoose as the only decent thing in my ema packs
>mfw nobody plays pauper
>mfw it isnt worth shit afterall
>>47826066
>the thread dies because we can't complain about prices like other formats or bannings or fakes etc.
Trust me, it's nice not having counterfeitfags shitting up the thread. Then again, it's pretty funny to pick a fight with them and see them trying to justify their inherently wrong position.
>>47849986
This one has actually stuck around for a while. Maybe we should just do weekend threads?
>>47849986
Well fuck you too. Maybe I want to actually play the game instead of spreading my ass cheeks for wizards of the kikes. Jokes on you for spending thousands of dollars on pieces of paper lmao
Is this mainly about 60-card pauper? Does anyone play or care about pauper EDH?
If no, then does anyone have a few infinite/repeatable combos that aren't midnight/gond, freed from the real, or reflection helix oriented?
>>47850266
>mfw my pauper deck cost more than my modern deck
Lets start a new format Tiny Paupers, 50 card common only edh with cmc 3 or.less and you can have any uncommon as your pauper leader
We can spike the price of certain cards for a format that will be played 3 times on youtube before dying out
Lets do this
>>47850363
I tried pauper EDH, and honestly I'm not too much of a fan. Games get really really grindy and turn into staring matches since boardwipes are almost non-existent. Deck strategies are also pretty narrow and heavily skewed towards certain gameplans since all you have to work with is commons.
>>47850766
How is that possible? Did you just buy all the expensive commons because expensive = good?
>>47850822
Just checked their site, holy fuck it's honestly really sad. Literally the only update they had since January is them clarifying that the extra two colorless mana that needs to be payed is generic mana instead of anus mana.
I'm so glad I didn't fall for this meme. Too bad my friends ate it all up.
>>47850952
He probably runs a meme modern deck like treasure hunt zombie infestation
>>47850952
Probably foiled out his deck, and got things like FNM Brainstorms, Player Rewards Lightning bolts, etc.
>>47850822
Thanks for reminding me that Tiny leaders was a thing that existed. Gave me a good laugh.
>>47850822
>>47850824
>>47851049
Never really heard of Tiny Leaders up until now, checking it out, it doesn't seem like a terrible idea for a format. Why does it get a lot of shit?
>>47851138
See
>>47850822
Speculators store raped and bought out all the foils of cmc 3 legendaries and othere cmc 3 or less good stuff in the hopes that it would make them bank, it didnt, also the guys who created it said they owned it and wizards didnt, they copped flak and he format died
Thread is just as dead as the format
>>47826066
>>47846418
I've yet to lose to MBC in a game that doesn't involve multiple rats and not drawing color fixing with RUG Tron.
Do I really need Obuliette and Chainer's Edict for MBC? I'm buying it for a battle box.
>>47854714
Check MBC from a year ago when chainera wasnt legal for ideas on replacements.
Also, oubliette isnt good when you face a lot of aggro. Its one of those cards that become must plays just because they are expensive (and no the other way).
>>47854857
Oubliette provides good devotion, but you could put Liliana's Specter or something in for that. And if you need the removal to slow down aggro there are more efficient options. Oubliette is just nice because it does both in one card.
>>47854857
Basically gonna change Chainer's for Geth's Verdict and add two more 2 cmc removals.
>>47848559
They are both good decks, only annoying as fuck. Fun decks are Affinity, Tron, Boros Metalcraft, Soldiers, Stompy, Goblins., Canadian Threshold.
Unfun Decks are mono U Delver, UB Teachings, Izzet Blitz, Hexproof and Elves.
>>47856417
Spotted the aggro player.It's okay, playing your whole hand is fun as fuck.
Does anyone here use Cockatrice? I'd like to play with folks using cards I haven't bought yet in order to feel better before I spend money.
>>47851138
There were only two good decks in the whole format. Nothingelse could compete, so people lost interest.
>>47856738
Pauper lacks decent Boardwipes, therefore Control conpensates by counterspelling everything. Don't get me wrong, you'll win, but people really like to play magic. You could at least allow it.
Those decks are barely interactive and heavly frustrating. MBC discards your hand and destroy all your creatures while drawing and gainning life. Elves can't be defeated without sideboard options. Hexproof and Izzet Blitz plays barely even looking at what your opponent has in the field.
Those decks don't need pilots, it's solitaire.
>>47858349
XMage has some people playing Pauper consistently.
Anyone know of any really good cubes that are up to date for the format?
>>47860474
XMage is trash. Untap.in is where it's at. Play anywhere there is a web browser
Peregrine Drake ban when?
Does Pauper Vampires exist?
>>47861807
It's not breaking anything so probably never.
>>47862014
Yeah. It just sucks.
My store started doing pauper on sundays so i built Midnight Gond after clicking around and reading about different decks, will the deck get shit on by all tier 1 decks or do I at least have some semblance of a chance? Additionally am I better off with a GW token list or trying for a Bant list more focused on finding and protecting the combo?
>>47849739
>mfw the best I got from 5 boosters was a Winter Orb+Price of Progress while my friend got Foil Pyroblast+Wasteland
Any pauper infect list? Got my promo glistener elves lying somewhere in my shoe box.
>>47864713
Pauper infect is meh at best, if they unban invigorate it could have constant t2 kills but untill then t3 kills are too slow
>>47861807
It's a 2/2 flying that dosen't cost mana and can even provide ramp with the right deck. It's still costs a card and 5 manas to work. If it gets countered it's brutal. It's a pretty alright card. Nowhere near annoying as Delver.
>>47862014
Yeah, but it sucks so far. It could be a thing with Bleakcoven Vampires, Artifacts and MBC utilities.
>>47864060
I would go with Blue, White protection is great, but you hardly will be able to stop the sideboard options without hard counters.
So Im currently playing stompy/Izzet blitz but also have u/b delver but i want to upgrade it to something else. Should I bother or should I just build something else?
>>47865893
It's still free/ramps to throw out there and enables winning the game on the spot with ghostly flicker/wall/mulldrifter which the format doesn't need.
>>47861582
Whenever I use Untap.in I start getting weird bugs after the first few games.
>>47868847
Maybe, but I want to see what it does to the format before it gets a ban. If you just ban all combo decks out of the format by default, you end up with Modern.
>>47864060
Seems like it will have a bad MBC matchup, and you need a plan for Electrickery out of the side. See what your store's meta ends up looking like.
>>47871889
Modern has RG Breach/Valakut variants, Scapeshift, Ad Nauseam, Living End, Abzan coco, Grishoalbrand and Storm to some extent.
>>47874199
I have a playset of armorsmiths and and other ways to pump the tokens out of electrickery range, as for mbc I don't really have a good answer for crypt rats until sideboard where I pray to make it with valeron outlander
I'm conflicted. I like the old hydroblast art more, but I fucking HATE girl genius.
>>47828087
Except drake turns pauper on its head again by making ghostly flicker storm even easier than when it had cloid of faeries. I imagine they are going to need to ban drake in the near future if they even give a shit.
New to pauper, and I need some feedback on this list. I know the sideboard needs some work--not really sure the types of decks I need to hate more against. I also made the deck on a very tight budget-- no hydro/pyroblast for sideboard and no daze maindeck.
Thus far the deck has served me quite well, but I feel like there's something dire I'm missing, or overlooked. Any advice?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/canadian-threshhold-4/
>>47849342
>>47849702
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/do-atogs-dream-of-electric-thopters/
This is the list I used at our FNM. I actually won it. The final game was an affinity mirror...except I had disciples. It was a slaughter.
I have u/b delver and im wondering , is it worth playing or should I upgrade it to mono b control ?
Maybe you guys can help me with this, or call me a fag and tell me to fuck off if it's too off-topic.
I want to make a battlebox of paper Pauper decks that are well-balanced against each other, but the top mtggoldfish decks are all too expensive.
Is it possible to have fun, complex pauper games with $20 paper decks? If so, is there a good resource to get lists?
Any spicy lists with drake?
Infinite mana combo with archaeomancer and ghostly flicker seems decent, with sea gate oracle to dig through library.
Should I jam Delvers in deck as well or go full control?
>>47884820
Take a look at the expensive decklists first. Most decks can still be built on a budget without impacting the power much (like removing Oubliette from MBC).
Also, if you've played any magic before, check your collection for staples. You probably have half the cards you need already.
jesus christ i just wanted to play twin in pauper
>>47889682
Well, mission acconplished.
>>47884844
I'm testing mono U control tron with drake, seems pretty good. You can go off as early as turn 4 with the nuts.
Is Pauper played on paper in your scene? I should have got into this format a lot earlier. Besides Belcher, RUG Tron (thunder for 20) and Izzet Blitz is the most fun I've had in Magic.
>>47894477
belcher? wut?
pauper is played ptty much at every fmn at my lgs
i use to play izzet blitz and i can confirm is a lot of fun
>>47886439
Thanks man, solid idea.
Take this deck for example:
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pauper-stompy-22958
What would be good substitutions for Rancor and Nettle Sentinel? It's a shame, they both seem pretty crucial.
>>47895773
wont cost more than 14 bucks for set of both tho
>>47895817
The deck costs ~42 in paper and I'm trying to create a $25 version.
Huh, after doing some testing, I'm starting to think that drake may eat a ban pretty soon. It's really gross. Also, what do y'all think of UB tortured existence instead of the normal BG, now that we have cephalid sage?
>>47895213
As in Legacy Belcher, getting back to back t1 kills vs Death and Taxes feels pretty good.
Two more Brainstorms and my Jace Turbofog is finished. I'm going with Unsummons, the 1 life from Vapor Snag is irrelephant when I'm milling the opp out anyway.
>>47856417
>Unfun Decks
>Izzet Blitz
PISS OFF
I keep trying to get this to work.
>>47833713
>>47833593
>>47833514
>That feeling when you trash a Modern Elves deck with Pauper Burn.
Das it mane.
>>47898182
Is Dangerous Wager really the best draw engine in Red at common?
>>47900461
One of them, yeah. Unless you can take advantage of Faithless Looting.
