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>ITT fictional teams that would make for a great party

O'Neil is an effective commander whilst still being fun.

Carter is incredibly well rounded and always useful.

Teal'c is effectively minmaxed for combat, but still roleplays well, especially his unfamiliarity with his teammates culture.

Jackson does his job as the party brain but remains useful in other encounters.
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>>47787178
I prefer SG Atlantis.
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>>47787207
This honestly triggered me
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Dayman is effective in combat, master of karate.

Nightman's role would be perfect for stealth, good at bartering for tolls.

Trashman would be excellent in archery, and can eat garbage.
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>>47787178
Ah shit, I RP'd on a forum with loads of homegrew systems ages ago. One guy was working on a Stargate system, and we did a few test runs with him. We were basically playing the C-team, and it was a lot of fun. General Hammond didn't like us joking about getting "snakeshots" on the Jaffa.

As a party, SG-1 lacks a thief or rogue type character. I guess Jackson applies, but he really went more skill monkey, and you can see the rest of the party shake their heads when he can translate some ancient text, but can't lockpick a door.
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>>47787178
Angel is the champion, or the man with a mission. A flawed leader. Coredlia is the Seer, starts off as the uninterested girlfriend of one of the players and grows into the role. Wesley is your classical support/research character who grows to become a viable combatant.
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>>47787178
>Jesus Christ, Sev. I'm still nto over it.
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>>47787178
>Jackson does his job as the party brain but remains useful in other encounters.

He's got a handle on the social stuff as well, as long as it involves ladies of some kind.
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>>47787178
Pretty much every Star Trek crew, I guess. Though in TOS, the guy playing Spock is clearly a minmaxer, and if it weren't for all that logic stuff, he would definitely have broken the party.

In TNG and DS9, it's mostly good. OK, there are two characters in TNG who aren't very good. One because she's pretty much useless, and the DM has to come up with special plots to make her seem useful, and the other because he's a minmaxed little twerp, except this time the guy playing him sucks.

In VOY it really breaks down, though. The captain is an inconsistent psychopath, the guy playing the first officer is just phoning it in, the guy who said he'd make a Han Solo type mercenary/smuggler made a character that can't do a thing. The entire party is just a trainwreck. I mean, have you played those games where one guy gets tired of his character, and then makes a bigtitted blonde who seems to have an advanced form of autism? Well, in this game that was an improvement.

And Enterprise is what you'd get when people are roleplaying for the first time and got all their ideas from the Big Bang Theory.
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>>47787178
>Teal'c
>minmaxed for combat

Not that it shows...
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>>47787293
>when he can translate some ancient text, but can't lockpick a door.
A modern door yes but I seem to recall him being pretty good at working anything alien when they needed to get shit done. So he was actually the best xenos adept ever. And you had other guys for picking human locks anyway.
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>>47787626
Worf effect. Have the baddie kick the ass of the team "tough guy" to show how strong they are, only all it does is make the tough one look weak as fuck.
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Buffy is the fighter/hero, Willow's the tech/magic user, Giles is the lore master, and Xander is a moderately competent everyman whose loyalty, bravery, and comic relief make up for his rather mediocre contributions to encounters.

There's a Buffy RPG, right?
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>>47787327
There's nothing to get over, it's not canon
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>>47787655
I'm glad they made Worf a little more badass in DS9. Of course, it helps that there isn't an inhumanly strong android on the crew, either. There''s even an episode where Worf tries to lift a beam off a kid, and Data just rolls up and does it with one arm as if it's nothing.
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>>47787227
At least he didn't say Universe
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>>47787178
A hotshot captain with guts and intuition who can best the enemy in personal combat and sleep with their women.

A highly-intelligent, supremely logical alien first officer with telepathic abilities and extraordinary physical capabilities.

An ornery doctor who isn't afraid to call anyone on their shit, and act like the voice of humanity and conscience.

A hard drinking engineer who knows exactly how much more of this she can take, and who'll back your shit up if you insult his ship.

A swashbuckling, karate helmsman, a Russian heartthrob from the Monkees, a black lady to answer the telephones, and Smith and Johnson to go check behind that rock.

Why settle for less?
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>>47787178
iv always liked the idea for a Scooby doo party.
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Going by JL and JLU cartoons...

>Superman
>Hasn't min-maxed as well as he thought he did.

>Batman
>HAS min-maxed his character as well as he thought he has.

>Martian Manhunter
>Created something completely fucking broken and keeps getting singled out and nerfed by the GM in order to keep the game remotely fair.

>Wonder Woman
>Is literally just here with her boyfriend and might, sometimes, if pushed, roleplay. Ultimately made a generic strong woman character.

>Green Lantern
>Just made a copy of his last character with minimal changes. Everyone secretly wishes he'd brought that Guy Gardner joke character back.

>The Flash
>Made an incredibly broken character but agreed to tone it down. He holds with this promise until the end of S1 of JLU where the GM let's him, just once, go completely off the leash.

>HawkGirl
>Has made an interesting character with reasonable but useful powers. Is massively overpowered by most of the rest of the cast as a result.
>Doesn't care because she will secretly betray the group midway through.
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>>47787227
Hey, at least it's not >>47787802
AH, beat me to it.

I LIKED Atlantis a lot. Yeah, it's not as good as the first 9 seasons of SG-1, not by a long shot, but it was still fun.
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>>47787293
>Red Dwarf
A literal whole team of 'THAT GUY'.
I'm not sure the games would last long but they would be hilarious .
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>>47789262
>the age lines on their faces
Fuuuuuck. I am old too arent I?
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>>47787720
Yes there is, it even has some decent adventure module in it though i cant' speak for the mechanics of the system.
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>>47789280
It's kind of funny that they let those show thought on Kryten, too. They could have covered that up but it does give the character a 'I'VE SEEN SOME SHIT' look which I find fitting.
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>>47789262
>>47789234

Ok, but consider this: Red Dwarf...in Rogue Trader.

An abhuman, a malfucntioning servitor, the world's least useful Guardsman and a disgraced, incompetent Inquisitor get marooned for being completely awful. They're stuck on a small support craft they can barely crew and eventually find and move into another abandoned Imperial ship.

And it turns out there's a particularly ornery machine spirit in it.
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>>47789482
I am that anon. And like I said they would most likely not last long without a lot of GM fait but probably be fucking legendry awesome bad sessions.
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Tell me, John; If farscape is so great, how come you haven't shamelessly ripped it off yet?
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>>47789587
I've seen bits and pieces of farscape but desu i could never get into it. Kinda like Firefly, with elements of Stargate thrown in.

Note: I also haven't seen Firefly (beyond the first 2-3 episodes).
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http://wings.io/
wow
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>>47789587
But they did anon it's called Sg-1 seasons 9 and 10.
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>>47787720

What about Cordelia?

Party face?
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>>47789688
We don't talk about those seasons...
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>>47789587
Tried to watch farscape.
Had to stop.
Does the lead ever learn to act his way out of a paper bag?
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>>47789801
"yes"? I hadnt noticed. I loved the universe and the personalities.
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>>47789801
It's generally accepted that it's campy but fun for the first half of the first season, then amps up to God Tier once the antagonist Scorpius (Wayne Pygram) shows up
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>>47789735
>What about Cordelia?

Players girlfriend that wasn't that into it. Really got into it later after the group had to split due to work schedules.
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>>47789735
see >>47787322
Admittedly Cordelia already had a little bit of development before her second campaign on Angel, but the player didn't really get into it untill the end of the first arc of the Angel campaign.
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>>47787744
>He cares about things being canon
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>>47787802
episode 1:
>hey, a Battlestar in Stargate! It might be a cool concept.

not a long time after:
>give me back Ori
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>>47787327
>that acclamator mission
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>>47789587

...fuck I heard that in his voice as well.

>>47789688

Were those the seasons that were effectively the Cast of Farscape Vs The Cast of Firefly with That One Guy from Enterprise as a one-shot villain?

I always liked how they basically went "Oh? What's that? Your Sci-Fi show that started AFTER ours did got cancelled? Have a job with us!"
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>>47790029
crushing on Doyle's player when he suddenly had to leave town helped her break out of her shell
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>>47790497
god that was the best season
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>>47790554

Whatever happened to that replacement Danial Jackson they had for those seasons when his actor tried to get a job elsewhere?

Or something, I never found out what the story was with that.
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>>47790641
He went back to his home planet and then it got nuked or something. I don't really remember.
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>>47790756

No, I meant, why did the actor leave in the first place, and then come back?
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>>47787207
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>>47787207
Atlantis was only interesting when Weir was alive.
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>>47790784
Did I stutter?
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show or series focusing about the rise of the Goa'uld and their evoloution to a batshit crazy evil overlords from ambitious conqueres of the stars when?

story about Ra leading the forces of the loyalist Goa'uld against the usurper Anubis when he killed his father apep when? ture romance story between Ra and Egeria, with them growing more distant as the war between the Asgard and the Goa'uld takes it's toll on Ra and has him resorting to the sarcohpagous to heal himself because he is constantly leading form the front when?

series about the socitial struggle as the Goa'uld in their terrotioral nature to protect what is there leads them down he path of being the galaxies greatest evil until the Ori show up when?

SHOW ABOUT THE GOA'ULD WHEN DAMNIT
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>>47790784
If I'm remembering correctly he was annoyed that Daniel didn't get to do much outside of poke old shit and whine at Jack about morality. Notice that once he came back they gave him a gun.
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>>47787430
And a wife on every planet.

>>47790554
Come on now, the best season is anything with Ba'al.
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>>47787178
>no one has posted this
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Seriously, the Section IX crew is top tier.

They all operate operationally.
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>>47787744
It is though.
The clone wars series is considered canon.
They make a cameo in one episode and there's also a unique episode starring another republic commando.
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>>47794177
Can't agree with this enough. So many great ideas for characters in this series.
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>>47787466
>In VOY it really breaks down, though. The captain is an inconsistent psychopath, the guy playing the first officer is just phoning it in, the guy who said he'd make a Han Solo type mercenary/smuggler made a character that can't do a thing. The entire party is just a trainwreck. I mean, have you played those games where one guy gets tired of his character, and then makes a bigtitted blonde who seems to have an advanced form of autism? Well, in this game that was an improvement.

If it wasn't for Chakote Janeway could have very well gone full Pirate Queen what with all the shit she had to deal with and everyone and their mothers trying to kill them just for being within eye sight of them.

And Neelix turned into a straight boss near then end taking charge of a colony of his own people when shit was going south.

if anything, this was a Rogue Trader game where the goal was to keep the Rogue Trader from going full steam ahead into Chaos .
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>>47794177

More like Pre-Fall Firewall team if you ask me with a mix of flats and top of the line Pods.
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>>47794177
Second from the left reminds me of Gunther Hermann.
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>>47787178
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>>47787178
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>>47789587
>>47789609
>>47789801

>>47789937
>It's generally accepted that it's campy but fun for the first half of the first season, then amps up to God Tier once the antagonist Scorpius (Wayne Pygram) shows up

Throughout the course of the show they address essentially all the classic sci-fi concepts, with Crichton making genre savvy comments, and often doing them the best.
Notably: the cloned protagonist & we've been shrunk impossibly small episodes

best clone story ever, don't spoil it
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>>47791373
>>47790784
>>47790641
The big movie he got after he left was a mars exploration movie where literally the most exciting thing was a golf cart tipping over, they find cave drawings, and then the credits roll.
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>>47787178
This series is literally like someone took their game and made it into an anime.
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>>47795067
I really liked that show.
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>>47787252
Kek
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>>47787178
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>>47795509
>a game where your entire party is made up of characters played by the same actor
Holy shit the possibilities here...
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>>47794177
>Cyberpunk 2020 Fullborg party
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>>47798575

Okay, so, a Barbarian from the Hyperborean Age... sorry, THE Barbarian from the Hyperborean age, John Matrix and Dutch Schaefer join forces with a reprogrammed Cyborg and a Memory Implanted Lunatic from the future to stop Mr Freeze?
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>>47799079
They have to fight the minions consisting of Demolition Man, Rambo, Rocky, Judge Dredd, and the arm wrestler from Over the Top.
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>>47799079

Okay, so a Tommy Boy from the 50's, a Lunatic with another mans face, a lunatic B-2 Bomber Pilot and a terrible looking alien hold the world to ransom, and must be stopped by an unlucky Police Officer in a String Vest, a former special ops trooper currently working as a taxi-driver from the future and a Psychologists who is also a Ghost

I should have to spoil that last one, but I bet I do.
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>>47799099
>>47799130
>>47799079
>>47798575

Okay last one:

A Supervillainous Cabal, consisting SOLELY of villains voiced by Mark Hamill.
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>>47788777
Trips, and a quality, underrated post.
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>>47789688
Yotz!
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>>47787430
He's also pretty decent with an SMG when it comes down to it. He's no frontliner, but he's not a slouch.
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>>47799187

I'm suprised nobodies asked about the image yet.

Lemme try EMH.

>Hawkeye
>Made another wisecracking Archer character. GM forced him to roleplay with a plot about double-crossing femme-fatales that may or may not be working for the bad-guys.

>Hulk
>Could have roleplayed. Would rather SMASH instead.

>Cap
>Arrived late, but roleplays well to overcome his powerlevel deficiencies.

>Iron Man
>Min-Maxed really well, especially with regards to stuff useful outside of fights. Abusing the power-armour rules to make himself one of the heavier hitters inside as well.

>Giant Man/Ant Man
>Essentially cribbed from Hulk and Iron Mans character sheets and came up with a smart guy who is also a bruiser. Will occaisionally remember that he can shrink and control ants as well because he had some points left over. Is only here at sufferance due to having his arm twisted by...

>Wasp
>Above Guy's brother and avowed That Guy. Playing a woman mostly to wind up his brother.
>Said brother keeps threatening to give him "such a fucking slap" if he doesn't stop.

>Thor
>Thought we were doing D&D. Already had the character sheets and backstories.

>Black Panther
>The GM's depiction of Wakandan Special Forces being bearchested black people in grass-skirts and exploding spears and fucking bones through their noses did not go down well with the groups only black man.
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>>47789587

Well, Scorpy, the Farscape gimmick is the "stranger in a strange land" thing. It loses its impact somewhat with a group of strangers in the strange land.
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>>47794177
Is that Adam Jensen on the far right?
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>>47799818

He never asked for GitS
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>>47788777
>>Has made an interesting character with reasonable but useful powers.
>im-fucking-plying
Did you fucking see that mace? Shit was more overpowered than Batman.
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>>47788829

I have to agree. It was good, just not great. Which was a shame, because I fucking loved Mckay. Grace Under Pressure, The Shrine or any episode with Rodney losing his mind was fantastic.
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>>47799723
>Hulk
>doesn't roleplay
He and Thor have the best banter.
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>>47799855

It was a smashy attack that had some really great bonuses vs magic. But that was all she had going for her.

I'm not sure how I'd explain JLU. Maybe the players each get to create a pool of heroes and they get to choose which one they want to use for the next adventure, except they lost a couple of players so their group went down to 3 players and the GM?

>"Okay, so, I'm not going to give too much away here, but basically Ares is causing trouble."
>"So, I'll be bringing in Wonder Woman then. Who else?"
>"How about these Hawk and Dove characters? They've kind of got similar themes?"

>"Okay, so, you're exploring Cadmus... can you just pass me Captain Atoms character sheet please?"

>"It's Roulette again."
>"LETS PLAY NOTHING BUT GIRLS!"
>"Wh... what? Doesn't WildCat have some unresolved issues here?"
>"SISTEERRRRS ARE DOING IT FOR THEM SAAALVES!"
>"...well, this adventure suddenly looks a lot more magical realm that I planned it to be."

>"Why have you picked Supergirl, Green Arrow and The Question for your party?"
>"You said we needed detectives for this one?"
>"...Supergirl?"
>"...wait, Girl? Shit I thought I picked Superman cos he's an investigative reporter. Can I choose again?"
>"...actually you know what, keep it, I can make this work."
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>>47794120
>Ctrl+F
>Single mention
Jesus fuck, either /tg/ is too young for this or something weird has happend
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>>47795509
>Captain Ron
I guess every party needs a clown
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>>47794120
but they were terrible at their jobs.
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>>47800125
>Terrible
Anon, have we seen the same film?
Because they did their job perfectly, with zero loses, taking the compound like it was a child play.
So then the GM throw on them a fucking alien, because he was expecting from the party to fail miserably against dozens of guerillas. That GM full-stop
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>>47800132

The Predator really is a Rocks Fall. Everyon Dies kind of dick move.

I mean, even fucking Batman nearly get's killed by one in their first crossover, and that's WITH Preptime.

Honestly, that first Batman - Predator crossover comic is easily one of the best crossovers as it works SO WELL and is a million miles better than the second film we got.
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Accept no substitute
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>>47800139
that first Batman - Predator crossover comic is easily one of the best crossovers as it works SO WELL and is a million miles better than the second film we got.

I fucking hate Batman, but I love Predator, and that overweighs that. Can you tell me a bit more about it so I could google it faster?
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>>47800139
>Second film
But there is no second film, unless you mean Predators. I deny existece of any other film
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>>47800151
You shouldn't, at least not with all of them.
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>>47800146

Not really. It's been a while since I read it.

Batman - Predator should do it though.

I just like how they didn't have the Predator job to Batman.

Although the winner of "Most convoluted crossover" that Dark Horse ever did is probably Aliens Vs Predator Vs Terminator. Although it loses points for not having Hicks and Kyle Reese ever meet.
Superman Vs Terminator is a close contender due to how fucking insane the content was. It also is the first time we saw the Terminatrix that would be later used in T3.
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>>47800156
Different anon, but entire Predator "franchise" aside first film and the remake/reboot of Predators is utter shit and not worth watching.
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>>47800151

You have no idea how much fucking wasted potential the second film had until you read the novelisation and discover that there was supposed to be a whole other fucking main character in the form of Dutch's equally huge Brother.
They were supposed to go back to Boliva to the original self-destruct site, the guy was supposed to get tagged by an alien tracking tag so they can hunt him whenever they want, and at one point he just shreds a predator with an Automatic Shotgun, causing his CIA planted Guide to accidentally drop character.

Shit could have been glorious.
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>>47800163
>entire Predator "franchise" aside first film and the remake/reboot of Predators is utter shit and not worth watching.

"Predators " was subpar at best. If you consider it good, then you should accept Preadtor 2 as well.

As for the rest of the franchise, I agree. Except for the Monolith's AvP2 game. Don't talk shit about AvP2, or I'll stab you.
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>>47800146
>Can you tell me a bit more about it
google batman vs predator
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>>47800194
It's what they call "effect of ugly friend". Predators was mediocre at best when treated alone, sure.
Compared with everything else in the franchise? Fucking masterpiece and nice homage to original.
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Is picrelated it?

>>47800201
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7BO4J0Zreug/maxresdefault.jpg
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>>47800210
>literally given the title of the comic
>lmao kill urself xdddd
okay
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>>47796124
That's not en entirely new concept.
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>>47800231
>okay
Good. Please die.

What's so difficult to understand about that I'm asking because in this very thread anon says that there's severla of them, and while I am told that it's "the first one", anon's memory is admittedly fuzzy, so I'm asking clarifying questions so as not to get the wrong thing?

Fucking mongoloid.
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>>47800145
>2016
>Series originally created as propaganda piece still holds on its own
I just hope they won't have any brilliant ideas like that Kloss movie.
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>>47800251
I've never seen someone get so butthurt at receiving the answer they were looking for.
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>>47798575
I came up with a party made up entirely of Rowan Atkinson a couple years ago.
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>>47800284
I've seen way too many parties like that.
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>>47800265
>I've never seen someone get so butthurt at receiving the answer they were looking for.
I'm butthurt about a different thing, actually. Are you that silly?
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>>47800050
>It was a smashy attack that had some really great bonuses vs magic.
And lightning.

And electronics.

And GL rings.

And plasma cannons.

And basically everything else.
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>>47800284
The "I'd rather be lucky than smart" party?
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>>47796147
right on anon
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>>47800341

4 of them being Blackadder could be construed as cheating a little.

As long as their sidekicks were all various incarnations of Hugh Laurie and Steven Fry then it's all to the good though.
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>>47800322

I still don't fully understand why they put her on the team. I mean, she had NEVER been with the Justice League until that point, she'd always been Hawkmans sidekick character on the JSA.
I get that they wanted another female character in the team, but... why Hawkgirl?
I mean, if you're gonna crib from the Morrison era like the show did, surely you go for Supergirl or Huntress? Or one of the actual original Justice League members like Black Canary or Fire & Ice if you don't want another Bat character.

If you want an female Alien on the team then you could have Starfire or hell, instead of having John Stewart, have Jade as your Green Lantern and give her an episode involving her Dad and maybe Kyle. This then opens up a slot for Steel or Captain Marvel or Dr Fate or a fulltime slot for Aquaman.

Just... why Hawkgirl?
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>>47795284
Chakotay was a doormat. The only thing that made Janeway from going full Chaos was her own inconsistency, randomly deciding each episode whether she cares about Fed values or not.

Neelix's final episode was a copout. The guy spends the entire time travelling far, far away from his people, and they magically find a community of Talaxians? Fair enough, he actually grew a pair for a change. And if Neelix had always been like he was in his final episode, maybe. But for seven years, he was insufferable to the point where he might as well have been on Enterprise. They gave this fucker zero redeeming qualities, while also making him an annoying control freak with an inflated opinion of himself. It's like they wrote Neelix to be annoying.

the rest of the cast sucks, too, with only a few exceptions. But it's definitely like a Rogue Trader game, but with exactly all the incompetence and hypocrisy the WH40K universe seems to imply. But again, when someone makes a Tech Priest that's also a hot babe, you'd be inclined to think that it'll be the worst character in the game. Except it's one of the best, because the poor performance of the rest makes even the most Magical Realm shit seem tolerable.

Christ, just imagine someone playing a Neelix in your game.
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>>47800420
You'd need at least one Tony Robinson I think... though the most competent versions of each actor-incarnation would actually be half decent, if you count 1-episode appearances.

Also, you need LORD FLASHHEART in there as well
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>>47800536

The problem with Tony is that he's all of two characters

Baldrick... and the Sheriff of Nottingham. Which DOES I freely grant allow him to play the straightman to himself.

>>47800549
I've retold this story a couple of times, and it's validity has never been checked, but it's a good story so fuck it:

Basically, the story is that Chakotay's actor knew he was being saddled with a turd that was going to kill his career, so every year, when contract renewal came up he'd push for ever more outrageous acting fees on his contract in the hope that Paramount wouldn't renew his contract.
Except, well, every year they just rubberstamped every single one of his demands.
So on the one hand, his career is over.
On the other, he's made enough to retire anyway!

It's Tim Russ you've got to feel sorry for. All those years trying to be a main character in a Star Trek. All those one episode roles, all those background characters in the films and then narrowly losing the role of Geordie to Levar Burton, and when he finall does get a major role in a new Star Trek what does he get?
Fucking Voyager.

Poor bastard. The guy's STILL working with the guys at STO now just so he can make ends meet.
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>>47800549
>Light hearted trader/diplomat who isnt trying to bend over anyone.
>a bit naiive but inherantly loyal and caring
>is a bit of a jack of all trades too

So much better than edgelord mc rapetrain von vampire

Give me a party of neelixs and we would have the lich turned into a contributing member of society in no time flat.
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>>47799140
Shonen adventure where everyone is Nic Cage.
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>>47789234

It exists. I own a hardcopy.

The game itself is pretty crappy, but the book is filled with funny
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>>47800506
>I mean, if you're gonna crib from the Morrison era like the show did, surely you go for Supergirl or Huntress?

Supergirl - crosses into Superman's area, can't have two Kryptonians

Huntress - too much like female Batman

Black Canary I might be able to see working. Fire is definitely not well-known enough, although arguably neither was Hawkgirl. Ice might be, but I would never want to bring Ice into Hawkgirl's position and have Guy cucked like that.

Hawkgirl was an odd choice, but it's one that I think worked for the cartoon.
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>>47801829
>Hawkgirl was an odd choice, but it's one that I think worked for the cartoon.

It would have worked no matter WHO they picked though.

>Fire is definitely not well-known enough, although arguably neither was Hawkgirl. Ice might be, but I would never want to bring Ice into Hawkgirl's position and have Guy cucked like that.

What if we had Fire and Ice, and instead of getting John Stewart (Which given that we already HAD a John on the team in the form of the Martian Manhunter might have made more sense) we have Guy Gardner instead?

My only concern is that the Flash is the designated Comic Relief role in the team (why?) so that might impact on that.

Come to think of it, if they were going for Morrison JLA, why DIDN'T they have Kyle as the GL? I mean, we have Wally as the Flash, Barry isn't even mentioned!
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>>47801899
>Come to think of it, if they were going for Morrison JLA, why DIDN'T they have Kyle as the GL?

Nobody on the team would have been black if they had.
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>>47801968

Makes sense. I'd have included Steel and tossed out Hawkgirl. Hell maybe that was the original plan but the word from on high was to have another female character and they had to rework things?
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>>47801997
Yeah, Steel would shift the male-female dynamic too far. They could have used another technological esque person though, Batman kind of wasn't enough solo, so MM had to pick up the slack.
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>>47802025

Yeah, and you can't have a Justice League without MM, a GL or a Flash, Batman and Superman have star power and the rogues gallery that their own shows bring to the table.
Personally, I'd have gone for a 6 person team and included Steel or (as they did later on in DC) Cyborg. Throw in a Black guy who also covers the tech angle. Give us Black Canary, hell what era was Power Girl an accepted thing? Her backstory is no more convoluted than Hawkgirl is, and you don't have to keep spoonfeeding her situations to be useful.
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>>47800341
But that's every party
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>>47800050
This is a pretty cool idea actually. In a system where character creation doesn't take forever and with players who are genuinely interested in role-playing, you could run a game that centers on a large organization rather than one small, consistent team.
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>>47800151
Aww I like Predator 2. Its not anywhere near as good as the first, but it was a pretty cool idea, stars based Danny Glover, and has stuff like the alien skull and the weird voodoo gangster to keep you interested.
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>>47800158
I really wish they would reprint AvPvT. They still have all the licenses afaik and they keep most of their other Alien, Predator, and Terminator content in print.
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How would this team do?
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>>47802996
Blake's 7 is a lot like your typical party where the players have different approaches and objectives. There's constant friction, but the players meta-game just enough to find excuses to continue to work together. Of course, the party you see there is for the second campaign that's trying to recapture the glory of the first. Half the people were too busy with other things to return, so the GM invited several new people to take their place. It worked okay, but never quite felt the same.

Also, Avon is one of the best examples of Chaotic Neutral out there. He's not expendable, he's not stupid, and he's not going.
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>>47787207
start of the series...

>"we're cut off from earth since it's a one way trip to space atlantis also we have to deal with space vampires too"

literally a season or 2 later...

>"earth came to help us with the space vampires by coming in on a FTL ship to explain future crossovers now we have to deal with the space cult that replaced the space egyptians in the original series also one of our guys went rogue when he became a space vampire too
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>>47788829
i honestly think main guy from atlantis was a better o'niel replacement than the guy they actually went with in the later seasons of SG1
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>>47800420
The all Black Adder party was vetoed.
Two versions were formed, one effective and the other so inept it was funny.
Mainly I remember the role of the face being BA3 and Mr. Bean, respectively.
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>>47787626
It totally does. I actually really liked that Teal'c does not get Worf'd too often, although, his actually interesting segments are the ones that deal with him being out of his element.
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>>47795067
This a great party. If there are any faults, it's that the party leader tends to hog way too much spotlight while not being nearly interesting enough or roleplaying-competent to warrant it.

Tyr is really exemplar, though. Literally the one correct way to play a Neutral Evil party member and get away with it.

Trance is also pretty fine as far as DMPCs go.
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Over-the-top action comedy from the 80s. Party face, combat monster and a just-as-planned tactical genius leader. Oh, and a psychologically gimped Johhny--one-skill who's tolerated because he's *really* good at flying planes.

Grimdark it up a bit, drop these guys into the setting of one of George Peppard's more serious films, and see what happens.
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>>47804342
not gonna lie, this is the quintessential modern adventuring party
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literally a magical realm gurps game with a DMPC
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>>47804342
>Explaining to people what A-Team is about
Not sure if that's part of the joke, or you asume people won't know this OR people actually no longer know A-Team
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>Caster-only party
>Everyone excells in different secondary fields just in case
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>>47788777
>>Martian Manhunter
>>Created something completely fucking broken and keeps getting singled out and nerfed by the GM in order to keep the game remotely fair.

The worst part is, he learned his lesson the first time and agreed to not be a dick with his powers, but the GM just kept doing it until he eventually said "Fuck it" and left.

That or he got busy with work.
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>>47804342
>Slowly going through the whole thread
>Waiting for the A-Team mention
>Near the end
>Then finally, in all its glory.

Pity the fools it took this much time.
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Would require really competent GM to pull this with such numbers, but just think about it. Even if you remove less important/interesting characters, you would still have at least 8 people in the party.
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>>47805358
1982 was 50 years ago.
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Seriously? Not a single mention about those guys? I mean the film is not THAT old, so average fa/tg/uy should know it.
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>>47805603
34, nice maths skills. And to be on this page, you would have to be born at least in the tail end of the 90s, when this was still hot stuff. Meaning you would still caught up with re-runs from mid-00s
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>>47805603
Different anon, but how about the film remake? It was launched what? 3 years ago? 4? Supposedly massive financial success, and the people that originally were enjoying A-Team are at this point 40-something with bunch of responsibilities, so it's not like they were the main crowd in the cinema.
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>>47804342
>drop these guys into the setting of one of George Peppard's more serious films,

You apologize to Audrey Hepburn, right now.
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>>47805710
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>>47805710
>3 years ago? 4?
>2010

Anon, just out of curiosity... how many years ago 1996 was?
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>Oldfags discussing old-ass crews
How about those guys? Few years ago, EVERYONE was talking about them. Now nobody remembers anything but a single meme out of it.

This only proves how hype-driven productions are worthless in the end.
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>>47805806

The movie and idea was cool, but Nolan has no soul.

He had to tap into the odyssey to make interstellar good.
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>>47799836
>He never asked for GitS
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>>47805917
>Implying Interstellar was good
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>>47806084
Good is not great. Its an okay movie.
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>>47805806
he managed to take a great concept and somehow make it boring by introducing the lamest dreams possible
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>>47805684
How about being a ruskie and never seeing even re-runs on tv? I only learned about this team from some meme JRPG
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>>47798575
I've seen the left over character sheets from a game of Dannies and Devitoes. They were pretty tops.
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>>47806102
It's boring.
Which means it's not good. Nor okay. I'm not sure if you are aware of that, but good films are not boring. That also includes high-brow films and art stuff. They keep you engaged, even if you don't have action in it in the literal sense
Here you've got a sci-fi film, that both fails to be interesting AND in the same time fails to be meaningful. It's just an empty shell, with bombastic music and great visuals. If it was /v/, I would call it a perfect AAA product. Easy to eye, zero content inside

The best part is how the only people that still even remember it existed are those who bash it for being shit.
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>>47806142
How about I'm a Pole and I know A-Team only because of re-runs, because otherwise there was no chance to even dream about watching brand new American TV series in mid 80s that spanned for more than 20 episodes
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>>47800295
Storytime?
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>>47806142
>Being a Ruskie
>Not knowing A-Team
Russia is one of few places where you could still easily watch A-Team and Macgyver by fucking late 00s. Why are you even bothering to lie in the net about your nationality? Being American with Russian name doesn't make you Ruskie.
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>>47806210
This discussion will lead us nowhere. Ahem... Is A-Team worth of watching today?
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>>47806142
>never seeing even re-runs on tv?
Then you are too young to post on this site, comrade
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>>47806276
I am 19.
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>>47806243
From today's perspective, don't bother with anything else than 1st season. If you will like it, go watch all of it.
It's the quintessential 80s show, literally one big meme, before those things even became memetic.
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>>47801899
The green lanterns are supposed to be capable space cops chosen by some of the wisest beings in the galaxy.

Hal's a braindead hotshot, Guy's a petty asshole, and Kyle's just a kid. Meanwhile, John actually fits the mold.
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>>47806192
Okay, we agree to disagree. Its a not an amazing movie, but the whole father sentimentality got to me a bit I have to admit.
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>>47796124
It's basically a no-magic, low-tech Shadowrun game. Which makes sense given it's a stealth-parody of 80s action movies.
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>>47806473
Different anon, but please! It was just a soap-opera tier drama. It really takes a talent to make film about power of love that is so absolutely artificial in transmitting feelings.
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>>47806549
>Stealth
Anon, did you just tried to call Black Lagoon "subtle"?
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>>47800549
>But again, when someone makes a Tech Priest that's also a hot babe, you'd be inclined to think that it'll be the worst character in the game


I feel it would be more apt to assume that Seven of Nine would be more of a Xenos that got the task of doing the Explorator's job.

That said:

Janeway: Rogue Trader
Chakotay: Seneschal
Tuvok : Arch Militant

can't remember the names of the others off the top of my head but we have a few Void-Masters and Explorators.
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>>47798442
>Seriously expecting from /tg/ to know Tintin
You are aware that most of users are American and Tintin, not counting short-lived hype caused by Spielberg's film, is literally unknown in States?
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>>47789587
>That white haired chick
>Hnnngggg

It's too fucking bad that they added a character into one of the later seasons that was so fucking annoying to me that I purged all memory of the show. I know I liked it up until that point.
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>>47790810
Woolsey had some good points but Carter was just... eughh.
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Just sayin'
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>>47807087
Fighter, Barbarian, Bard, Asshole
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>>47794120
the all different member didn't really get enough characterization to make them interesting as a party.
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>>47787207
I would accept Atlantis being more interesting because they are the B-team compared to SG-1's A team.

Jack O'Neill somehow managed to be 100X more diplomatic than Sheppard or even Weir.
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>>47799140
That's nothing, imagine a cabal of villains voiced/played by Tim Curry.

None can escape the Legion of Tim.
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Orlando was pretty That Guy, though.
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>>47807111
Don't be mean to Milo
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>>47808525
Griffith's player was butthurt that his magical realm backstabbing character got killed so he forced the GM's hand to get a new immortal PC.
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>>47787327
I was still weirded out by how much a useless bunch of jobbers and chumps every single other clone seemed to be.
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>>47808696
Well, they're still proto-Stormtroopers.
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>>47794177
But Togasa would have high essence so would Saito
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>>47787178
Weeeeeeeeelllllll
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>>47803984
>his actually interesting segments are the ones that deal with him being out of his element.

>vagina vagina vagina
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>>47808762
>Physad Melee
>Street Samurai Machinegunner
>Rigger
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>>47808776
you forgot the jeep
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>>47799046
Except only like two are full 'borg.

The guy on the far right is almost 100% meat still.
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>>47808759
Average their essence, it's pretty low.

The Major and Bato are at .01 at best.
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>>47791677
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>>47796147
Season 5 went off the rails badly.
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>>47809120
Fine;
>Cyberpunk 2020 fullborg party with two high EMP meat nerds
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>>47808142
>Curry was both Prof. Calamitous and Lazer Pirate
Holy crap. I never noticed. Man he's got a good range when he needs it
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>>47809287
What the fuck was that even? I mean, the show had long since squandered any promise it had once shown, but season 5 was all kinds of fucked up.
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>>47809738
I always suspected it was when Gene's script notes ran out so the writers had no idea where to take the plot.
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Class them, /tg/.

Freebie: Phoebe is the bard.
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>>47809878
What system would even be appropriate for the show?
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>>47809891
Other than GURPS?

BESM maybe. Fate? Something rules light, comedy slanted. If you really stretch it... nWoD Vampires.
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>>47809919
>nWoD Vampires.
That's a bit unfair, they're nowhere near as horrible as the cast.
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>>47809878
>Class them, /tg/
Is yuppie douchewad a class?
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>>47809940
I said you'd have to stretch it. I mean really stretch it.
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>>47809965
Ventrue?
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The T'ealc (or whatever) and Ronin episodes were some of the best in the whole series.
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>>47806854
Chiana is meant to keep your dick hard.

She does a great job.
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>>47800122
I think he would make a great Face for a party as well.
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>>47809965

No, they are just a particularly chill Sabbat coven who are strong enough to not really give a shit what the rest of the Sabbat thinks or wants of them.

They are in New York after all which is Sabbat territory after they BTFO the Camirrila.
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>>47787178
Class 'em!
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DM tells the players they're gonna be starting as high school students for a low-key investigation game with minor supernatural elements, so roll up some high-school characters

>Veronica
Completely minmaxes for money and some social shit. Then proceeds to use the coaching, training, and morale rules to just hire an expert and get a huge bonus at whatever becomes relevant.

>Betty
Designated skillmonkey and support character. Has basically no resources of her own, but between various craft/repair skills and borrowing useful shit from Veronica, turns out not to need them.

>Jughead
Schrondinger's character - even more minmaxed for flexibility than Veronica.Took a bunch of flaws to achieve his vapabilities - most notably, a need to spend Willpower to actually use his potential to achieve anything. And then he minmaxed around that by taking Glutony as a vice letting him regain willpower by overeating, and a another minor flaw that means he needs tons of extra food just to maintain himself.

>Archie
Focused on athletics and social skills. He also proceeded to take ALL the relationship merits for both Betty and Veronica as well as friendship based ones for Jughead, since they stack. This results in him being exactly as competent as he needs to be in order to help out his friends.

>Reggie
That guy. Decided to piss off Archie's player by ignoring merits in favor of being better than Archie in every relevant skill. Unfortuantely, he underestimated romance-based minmaxing, and winds up being just inferior whenever it's most important.

The DM takes one look at these minmaxed assholes, shelves his slice-of-life/low key supernatural investigation game, and promptly pulls out the monster manual from an entirely separate game.
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>>DM makes a game where you are suppose to eek out a meager existence and survive in a harsh world where humans are never suppose to win and eventually just die like in a Cthulhu game.

>>Only 2 players originally so the guy that made Kamina was allowed to pick up Leadership to help round out the party. Secretly plots to make his cohort his main character and use his Kamina to change the entire tone to saying screw your setting

>>Convinces the other player to also go along with his plan. Proceeds to take control of everything as soon as the Big Boobed Sniper crashes in to Starter Town.

>>DM sees the coup coming and tries to reinstall the hopeless feeling the players are suppose to be having at every moment. Thinks he succeeds when he kills one of the PCs, but two games later when a new player joins the crew and Kamina's PC reveals his trap that Kamina was the cohort all along and proceeds to beat every supposedly unbeatable foe.

>>Months pass with the DM stewing about how his unwinnable game got won. Plots and plans a continuation to put his game theme back in place. Makes plans and contingency plans on how to get the players to lose.

>>Simon player joins and tries to fight until the other one other PC said stop hogging the limelight. Proceeds to let the DM have his way kicking the shit out of the party at every turn and their are on the brink of having everyone be killed. Asks if they want the story to win this way. Calls in Big Boobed Sniper player to help once more and proceeds to say that we will "Do the Impossible" and beat your unwinnable game.

>>DM keeps making shit up and increasing the power level, but never noticed that the rules he changed also worked the same way for the players. Eventually has to admit that he is being petty and let's them win at a cost.
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>>47787466
>And Enterprise is what you'd get when people are roleplaying for the first time and got all their ideas from the Big Bang Theory.

Shabingo
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>>47788777
Kek'd
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>>47800050
This game would be fun as hell to play in.
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>>47809878
Okay, let's go with Pathfinder:

Chandler: Bard-Arbiter
Rachel: Bard-Diva
Ross: Bard-Archaeologist archetype
Monica: Bard-Geisha
Joey: Bard-Celebrity
Phoebe: Bard-Street Performer
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If nothing else, this would be one glorious train-wreck of a campaign, provided they get a god-tier DM.
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The guy who knows everything and is there to laugh and the bro, do you really need any more in a party?
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>>47788160
Wait...Shaggy had a name?
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>>47789286
>>47787720
It's basically a more flexible WoD.

It has some issues, and some issues with the pricing of merits/flaws, but it's playable.

The magic system is quite good. Has similarities to Shadowrun's magic system.

The magic system got a rework (improvement) for another Cinematic Unisystem game Ghosts of Albion.

For best results mix and match game mechanics from Buffy, Angel, Ghosts of Albion, and Evil Dead.
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>>47809807
The producers decided they didn't want an ongoing plot anymore and wanted to try to force the show to go episodic, so it wouldn't matter what order the episodes aired, or if you missed a bunch.

People railed against it. They were fired and/or resigned. It was received badly by everyone. They tried to recover from it. The show suffered as a result.
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>>47787178

>O'Neil.
Smarmy dickwad that simply can't take anything seriously. a high-functioning "that guy". Rolls well and knows what he's doing, but is mostly there for the lols.

>Carter.
The party's "science babble" expert who is the FIRST to whip out the high explosives when shit goes south, which seems a bizzare contradiction.
The most prime example of "what i made/what the DM saw/ what i played".

>Teal'c.
you'd almost believe this was the DMPC with how often he slings lore about the universe, but he's actually just a kick-ass player that actually read the rulebook, make a kick-ass alien PC and is able to take failed rolls like an absolute sir. A+ player character!

>Jackson.
The fucking DMPC. while carter is the first to grab her grenades in a crisis, Daniel is the first to take a bullet, take an ancient device to the face, sacrifice himself for the mission and come back after a couple of sessions as a GOD!
FUCK this guy!
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>SG-1 is your first gaming group that lasted for nearly a decade, did a lot of stupid things, screwed up a lot of the rules, house ruled a lot, the games slowly got more and more epic tier, and everyone joked and had fun.

>Atlantis is your second group that you started running alongside your first one. Had a different feel with the different players, but still a lot of the same fun with the house ruled system.

>SGU is your third group, played with a whole new group of players into serious roleplaying and using the system RAW. It takes a while for you to get into it, but it is awesome and you try to get your old players onboard. A couple of the old players try it, and enjoy the one shot, but just don't have as much fun as the old group and don't come back.

>Then the group moves away unexpectedly and you put the campaign on hold even though you all really know you will never pick it back up.


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>>47788829
>>47790416
Mentioned this in a thread a while back:
SGU was objectively better and more intelligently written than either of the previous Stargate shows.
What killed it, imo, was that the brand was worn at that point and, much more importantly, it lacked a quality of the first two.
SGU was a better show, but it didn't have that "fun" aspect of the others, which may have lost them old fans and they didn't do enough to attract new fans.

It's one of my favorite underused scifi settings.
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>>47813827
and then the asshole gm who left after the first session starts it back up again and ruins everything forever
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>>47812302
yeah. if were named Norville you would probably want to use your nickname instead of your birthname.
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>>47813922
Hey, it's not like anyone's doing anything with Stargate at the moment besides some mediocre books
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>>47813827
SGU was way too soap opera-y at the beginning. A lot of the time, it seems like the actual space stuff that was going on was just shit the writers had to get through to get to more human drama, which was annoying. And while I realize the show was trying to depict more realistic, flawed human beings, most of them weren't very likable, which made it hard to care about them. However, it did seem like the show was getting better going into the second season, but I can't comment on how it ended, because I think I only watch something like 1/4 or 1/2 through the second season (I was watching it with a friend, and we had trouble getting together for a while, and we ultimately just ended up dropping it).
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>>47813827

>objectively

Taste is subjective. i liked SGU and wished it continued, but it never would have been as good as SG-1. Too much drama.
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>>47814029
I couldn't get into it

I swear to god at least one episode had a girl crying for 15 fucking minutes
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>>47814075

Yeah, and the whole love triangle between the morman, the hollywood irl, and the fat kid was just unbearable to watch.
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>>47814026
>>47814029
>>47814075
>Too much drama
Fair criticism.
Any realistically written show about that situation would have that drama.
The problem was that it wasn't what you were expecting when you read "Stargate" in the tin.

Also, I meant "objectively better written" not "objectively better".
Both phrases have derailed threads before, but I believe the latter is too vague to ever be used.

>>47814103
>the love triangle was just unbearable to watch
I disagree and thought it was suitably short lived, but each to their own.
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>>47810024
>Best
>Not even mentioning Window of Opportunity
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>>47810648
>Archie & Predator
W... what?!
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>>47814633
This episode was good too.

I don't think they ever touched on the fact that o'neill speaks ancient better than daniel does again.

The real best though was Space Race.
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>They start up with pack of friends that like to play one shots with the same characters
>Move to continous campaign that the GM never really planned
>Some of the players get tired of this shit
>Got replaced by literal brother of one of the players
>Then the team warps and changes due to moving away, bad working hour and what not
>In the end GM ends up with single guy that still knows what's going on and everyone is completely green into the setting and roleplaying in general
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>>47814717
>Daily reminder John Rhys-Davies only took the role of Gimli because he dropped this show and needed money fast and badly
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>>47814695
TEKCON~
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>>47787626
Remember one of the last episodes of the series where he goes full Terminator on that guy?
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>>47814828
No, I stopped watching a few seasons in because it was too lame and cheesy.
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>>47814848
>too lame and cheesy.
We can't be friends, Mr. Random Internet Man
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66TCDvb562g
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>>47814848
Different anon, but this is the reason why ratings dropped in my country and they've ended up broadcasting with season 4. And nobody felt bad about it.
I mean this show managed to fight it's way from dump slot at Saturday early afternoon to prime time on Monday, so go figure how everyone felt when the quality started to dive nose down.
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>>47814956
Fargate starting is what killed the series for me. I'm glad they got so much mileage out of it but even though I didn't hate the last two seasons my desire to watch just died.
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Here's a crew, even if things ended badly.
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>>47814483
>The problem was that it wasn't what you were expecting when you read "Stargate" in the tin.
I don't think it's that it did something different than what I expected; I think it's that it did something that doesn't much interest me, regardless of expectations.

Though with that said, I always found SG-1 about as interesting as grass growing. It wasn't offensive or aggressively bad or anything, just dull. The always returning to base thing really didn't help it, and the military aspect in general detracted from the show. That's not to say that you can't do something cool with a military based sci-fi show, only that they didn't.

The people on Atlantis tended to have more over-the-top personalities, and the bad guys were cheesy as fuck, but the show had more energy, a better setup (being shut off from Earth), and was just more fun. I mean, it kind of got pointless by the end, but I found it the most enjoyable by far of the Star Gate shows.
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>>47815062
You mean a crew that ends up badly?
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>>47815104
Yeah, that's what I meant.
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>>47815062
Man there is so much of that movie that might not have even happened
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I legitimately thought Universe was the best of the Stargate series. I watched all three of them for the first time a couple of years ago, and only heard the general perceptions afterwards, and was rather surprised to find out how hated it was.
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