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Welcome to a thread where we discuss the backstory to a children's card game and make awful OC for the same setting. Expect the lowest quality of fanfiction and self-inserts in this thread. Remember, every snowflake is shit, especially yours and especially mine.

Previous thread: >>47709061
What happened in it? Some lore was discussed, some asshole who can't stop making snowflakes made two more and nothing of value was produced by anyone at all.

There's also a repository where someone is obsessively hoarding all of the OC we produce, whether it's a shitty snowflake planeswalker or a terrible story. Whatever you make, expect it to be saved. Here's the repository:
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwl7IuoVRkFxUDZRVGVfQ1BDbm8

And if you're interested in discussing the lore that's almost as bad as what we make, then here's the latest MtG lore article featuring Arlinn being a bitch:
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/archmage-goldnight-2016-06-08

Enjoy your stay and don't forget, all snowflakes are shit, especially yours and especially mine.
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>>47772304
Cute.
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>>47772346
Faggot
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I really dont feel comfortable posting in these threads anymore with all the weird romantic pairings and "chans" and "kuns" going arounnd.
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>>47772403
Well, -chans, -kuns, -sans, -samas, and so on will never go away no matter where you go as this is an anime-based imageboard. And what's wrong with the debauchery? Sometimes we need a break from all the seriousness and hostility from others.
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>>47772403
I tried to curb it. But what can you do? I think using chan and kun is pretty gay. The romance is fine, so long as it's not the only focus.
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>>47772403
Very few people do that and Vronak is just shit.
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>>47772304
I miss the other OP.
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>>47772465
I don't mind the jokes about romance and stuff, unless it becomes a serious problem it's just a bit of fun.

>>47772403
I'm not a fan of that either but it honestly just doesn't bother me.
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>>47772463
So silly Japanese honorifics are endemic to 4chan but you act as though hostility, trolling and shit-slinging is not? Fuck off.
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Threadly reminder that your snowflake is shit.
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So, since I've been on my phone and my computer is kaput, I couldn't make custom cards on safari. But, I just looked through the App Store and luckily enough someone made a MTG card creator. So, I'll try my hand at making a fleshed out Purple card mechanic.
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>>47772536
Fuck off to >>47737459 then, that's the custom card thread, this is for MtG lore and OC.
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>>47772517
Of course I don't act like trolling isn't native to 4chan. But, doesn't mean I can't toss in my 2 cents and try to lessen it.
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>>47772550
And you don't think custom cards for a different color identity isn't expected for a flake?
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>>47772530
Thank you Sir. You always keep me humble.
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>>47772530
Stop being OP. You are better as Plaguelord.
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>>47772566
The only way to lessen troll is to not respond.
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>>47772649
I absolutely hate ignoring people though. I feel like everyone, no matter how depraved, is deserving of acknowledgement. But, that's just me. I see your point, Gaia-anon, and appreciate your concern.
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>>47772649
Any progress with the snowstorm collage?

If you're not getting anywhere with it, I'm willing to take back over on it, although I'll be imposing my own standards on it as well.
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I want to write something new.

Give me ideas.
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>>47772696
If you want to, go ahead. I have a half-finished one, but I've been busy the last 12 days.

I feel like a shitty person. I can't keep my commitment to a 4chan thread.
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>>47772830
like a flake? a story?

What do you want to write?
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>>47772895
A story. I've made enough flakes for awhile. I feel like I'm spamming. I want to get back to writing, but I don't want to work on anything long. And I want to see what ideas the thread throws my way.
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>>47772980
What about the idea you tossed around before with Gaia when she first learned how to utilize Black mana from Vronak?
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>>47772980
I am unable to formulate ideas outside of Innistrad and Angels, usually both.
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>>47772649
Yeah, but when they make purple flakes, you have to call them on it.
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>>47773094
The best way to continue a topic is to respond to it. If you don't want a topic to continue, don't respond.

P.S. I love these threads.
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>>47773157
I love you.
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>>47773222
I love me, too.
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>>47773250
Trips confirm, you're the best.
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See >>47772403.
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>>47772980
Urza and Yawgmoth watching current events in MTG and commentating on them as Statler and Waldorf
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>>47773282
What would you like to see out of them?
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>>47773491
Less of the circlejerk seen in:
>>47773222
>>47773250
>>47773259
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>>47773594
Sorry friend.
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>>47773594
And more of?
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>>47772980
The two flakes have a beef with each other
Go
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>>47773654
Anything relevant to MtG's lore.
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>>47773713
At least we get lore discussion.

Besides, this is a flake thread. Until Plaguelord put lore in the title, it was called the mtg flake thread, not the mtg lore thread.
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>>47773692
Which ones?
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>>47773752
This was a lore thread before Gaia took lore out of the title.
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>>47772403
I know for sure that if someone adresses me as Murdock -chan again I am gonna consider leaving and not coming back. Otherwise, I am drawing some stuff for the threads but it won't be out until i have finished the pages I have to deal with.
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>>47773815
I did that because almost no one had been talking about lore for about 12 threads straight. So I didn't see the point to keep putting it in there. I tried to get another regular lore thread going outsideof this one, but it didn't catch on. If you'd like, I can stick lore back in there.
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>>47773909
Seeing as the snowstorm has died down to the point where snowflakes are only regularly made by one person (and are of the lowest quality as a result), it might be a good idea to go back to talking about lore first and foremost and perhaps letting the snowstorm die a more natural death.
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>>47773946
I think you're right. The snowstorm is still going, but it has slowed significantly.
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>>47773946
I wouldn't say it is dying, it is just being choked by unnecessary walkers and circlejerking, while we need stories and art for the existing characters instead. Kudos to Serena anon for the storynin the last thread.
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>>47774021
I'm sorry. I haven't had much of an urge to write until literally today. So I've been circlejerking until I got inspiration again. I am shit. I am sorry.
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>>47774099
Even from the other side of the screen I can tell this is sarcasm.
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>>47774021
Thanks. I'm positively horrible at coming up with ideas so if people give me good hooks like that I'm happy to write stuff.

>>47774099
You could always draw instead. :^)
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These threads are shit since no one has done anything awesome with Messenger, not even his creator.
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>>47774176
But it's not, tho.
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>>47774208
Lies and slander. If it was not sarcasm it would be even worse.
>>47774199
I remember him being in at least one story though.
>>47774184
I'll draw you something in exchange for a story. Deal?
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>>47774246
Sure. If you think that anything I can write would be worth that, you did read my other stories, right?
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>>47774246
>I remember him being in at least one story though.
Doesnt contradict what I said.
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>>47774199
>Only one flake is worth anything here
Wow. That hurts.
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>>47775098
It's funny that certain individuals will shit on everyone else's flakes and not say what flakes they made themselves.
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>>47774199
What do you do with messenger other than lawl, he's a robutt
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>>47775221
I don't know why you tagged me for that one. The other person didn't suggest that they had any flakes, and I didn't either though admittedly I have four, but I'll gladly admit the flaws in them.
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>>47775098
Well, considering that roughly 20% of the 170~ snowflakes have almost identical formatting that points towards being made by a single person, it's not so bad.
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>>47775312
As a response to you? Not that you are implied in those certain individuals.
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>>47775329
And just to point out, not all of them are by the same person, or even the same two people. I believe it's between three different people in total. The fonts and editing styles are default in Apple products photo editors.
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>>47775378
I guess I don't see the connection, since what you said was a separate statement, instead of a continuation or a rebuttal.
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Alright, I've made a handful of Purple cards so far. I haven't gotten around to the mana symbol just yet, so bare with me. What does everyone think so far?
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>>47775397
What's the particular editor you use, Vronak-chan?
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>>47775403
It was in response to you saying that someone implied that all but one flake makes the threads shit.
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>>47775433
I believe it's just called Photo Editor on Macs. But, for iPhones and iPads it's just the basic editor.
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>>47775423
I don't see the point of "purple" really. From a lore point of view, what is it supposed to be, the BE? Which would be either colorless or domain, jury is out on that. Mechanically, you just slapped a bunch of ridiculously powerful effects that range in evey color of the pie, on strikingly underpriced cards, and those effects only share the property of doing nasty things to all available targets.
Back to the drawing board- not even, straight to the trash can, sorry.
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>>47775423
what is a Legendary Instant. Is there such a thing?
And btw. Voidshift ist way to overpowered. It is practicly a "My enemy has no more lands"-card for four mana.

Same goes for Wordly shift. the last effect seems to strong.

In general those cards are too overloadet with effects.

In my opinion the Cards look edgy. But then again if there is a cool way of beeing edgy it is this way.
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>>47775423
You know that purple has design notes, right? It's not happening because it's a design nightmare.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/color-purple-2007-01-29
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>>47775508
There are cool ways of being edgy and none of them is this.
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>>47775498
Purple is a concept by WOTC's R&D back during the Time Spiral block that is supposed to represent a new mana type from an alternate reality. Just like they had color shifted cards. And as for my thoughts on the mechanics of Purple, I went with all choose modes, no destroy, sacrifice, or return to hand effects, only exile or change type effects, and nothing is really cheap. You think between 4-6 mana for these is too cheap in cmc for these? What would you suggest?
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>>47775535
Whats a good way to be edgy?
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>>47775587
Not wo you replied to, but those cards dont need an increase in the mana cost. They need to be redone.
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>>47775498
>>47775508
Well its Vronak. Guy doesnt even manage to make flakes that arent ruining things and now he is supposed to make cards for a color that doesn't actually exist? Thats a disaster in a fucking bottle.
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>>47775508
Uou don't think giving them 3/3's for each land is balanced? And as for Worldly Shift, Austere Command is quite a bit better in my opinion.
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>>47775626
How so friendo?
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>>47775633
Thirty-one flakes, I'll have you know. Hell, the only one with anomalous formatting of any kind is the Vronak snowflake itself.
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>>47775587
Literally read this article
>>47775529
Even if it had happened, it wouldn't have been permanent. Planar Chaos was a special kind of realities and time being bent and would have been closed away by the mending. There aren't sources of purple mana anywhere, so we have no reason to discuss purple spells unless something happens otherwise.
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>>47775715
I read that article before so started on the flake. And your point is discussed in the flake's bios.
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>>47775638
1. No I think its not balanced. Not for four mana.
2. if you would destroy all standart lands this would be better. But look at it this way:
You have three effects to choose from. And one of those is capable of destroying your enemies complete mana base and leave yours untouched. Yes there are other cards that do that, but those cards would be inusable in most circumstances. While your card still has two good other effects.
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>>47775748
You didn't seem to pick up on any of the flavor aspects then. The likely land was City, and it would have been opposite Green on the color pie. All you have is space-bending and spells flavored colorless.
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>>47775699
I'll count how many I personally made. I've made 13 flakes thus far.
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>>47775756
So, you think it should be basic lands only?
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>>47775789
The reason I didn't go with City and the landtype is because the community has made cards in Purple already and have generally went with Vortex being the basic land type.
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>>47775800

>13

Cripes, and I thought I was really pushing it with seven and stopped.

I still think that, actually. Thirteen is a lot.
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>>47775423
So, what do you all suggest need to be changed for each of these cards?
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>>47775886
Sure, but I've been making Flakes since the first ten or so.
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>>47775857
>Chose to follow other fanwork instead of the notes from R&D
That was your first mistake.
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>>47775923
That's only for lands though. "City" really isn't a natural formation.
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>>47775952
You're not wrong about that, but how is "vortex" any better? How are you going to find spacial anomalies floating around in your everyday plane to act as leylines for your casting? At least with a City, that's something that exists in places and can represent some kind of ideal.
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>>47775904
I've been making flakes since before the first ten but I carefully limited the amount I was going to make.

You don't see other people making over ten, except for... oh, that's right, the other people using the same software as you in exactly the same way. Another funny similarity.
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>>47776026
I figured that the planes in that multiverse are surrounded by vortexes in the sky that have mana leylines that drift downwards to the plane.
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>>47776053
I think only Des had made more than me in the same "format". The other flake anon is, and I believe but don't hold me to it, is Ashryn's/Astarte's anon.
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>>47776067
I don't know why I bother. You're just going to always justify your ideas however you want instead of being sensible.
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>>47775886
I still only have one, guess I'm boring.
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>>47776121
So, let me get this straight... You ASK me why I thought it was better, I give you an answer, and somehow I'm "just trying to justify my ideas instead of being sensible"? You seem to have a skewed perception of social conversation.
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>>47776145

Nope, means you're focused. Among other things you can develop ONE flake a lot better than a whole bunch because there's no distractions.
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>>47776177
As you seem to have a skewed perception of reasoning. You are way out there, and then when anyone tries to call you on it you just deflect like you can't possibly have done anything wrong.
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>>47776206
You think vortexes are "way out there" in the realm of possibility in the MtG universe? Even though we had literally hundreds of rift bubbles in Dominaria's sky and each of these bubbles repeated showed the events in which created the rift. Yet, simple vortexes with mana leylines are just way too out there.
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>>47776206
Also, how am I deflecting? You ask a question, I give an answer. A couple of anons say my ideas are flawed, and I ask on suggestions to correct them. How is that deflecting?
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>>47776206
Please don't reply to any of the guy's other posts. You must see by now that it's not worth it.
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Goodnight guys, if anyone wants to toss me ideas for stuff to write soon go ahead, I'll read through them tomorrow. That last one was fun to write.

>>47772304
Have I ever mentioned I love the joke sheet? Because it's great, 10/10.
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>>47776457
If not I'll just write something else with The Cathar and Serena. I'd like his owners thoughts on that though.
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>>47776457
Awww thanks. I'll do another one sometime
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>>47776089
Is this the same Astarte that also uses the silly o__o faces with specifically two underscores, just like you and Desdemona, who also use identical software that you use in identical ways? Who have all made flakes that gain a very large amount of vitriol in these threads?

You share an astonishing number of similarities with these people, you know.
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>>47776500
She/he did the facecons? I never saw that. And I believe Desdemona got that shit from me. Because she kept doing it after I did and we did it back and forth for like half an hour worth of posts. And yes, people who have macs use the same photo editor because it's simple and better than buy/torrenting psp. And I believe only Astarte got shit from some anons. I don't think any of her/his other flakes did.
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>>47776577
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47142718/#47172526
That post is three hours and forty minutes before the two characters are actually made in these posts:
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47142718/#47176022
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47142718/#47176041

Oh and need I mention that they also save their images as 'image.[filetype]' just like you do, as seen in posts like >>47775423, >>47709390, >>47771214, >>47771239 and >>47758078? Funnily enough, this is also something that Desdemona does and I can tell you now, the software you're using does allow you to set file names, just like it allows you to change fonts and paste and arrange images in more than one way.

This isn't 'three people,' I'm afraid.
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>>47776774
Those Astarte posts makes me think it's Des's anon. However, those faces have been around /b/ for the better part of a decade. I could also attribute your typing style to being akin to Des's as you both break up posts into paragraphs related to points being made. But, .png is commonly known as the best image format for resolution. So, why is it that you think two (possibly three?) Apple users HAVE to be the same person because of this? It's almost like saying "no one can own a white 2012 Honda Civic EX with black tint in the same city without being the same person".
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>>47775599
The way that makes you kill yourself.
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>>47776876
Everything is this post is either misdirection, feigned misunderstanding or an outright lie.
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>>47777065
If you say so.
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>>47776876
It's not that they're .pngs. It's that they're all .pngs named image.png, on top of the similar typing style, the usage of that editor in that specific manner, and the love of deflecting arguments and ignoring anyone who doesn't see the lore in their own incredibly narrowminded and frequently incorrect manner that is making people suspect that you are all the same.
So go read the damn books.
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>>47776876
It's not a case of 'everyone who owns this car with this tint is the same person,' it's a case of 'everyone who owns this car with this tint, who does this particular joke, who uses this particular shower gel and who has this specific BMI is the same person.'

There's more than one identifying factor.
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>>47777224
So you own a Mac? They all do that with the images. It's just like saving images with cellphones. What same typing style do we all apparently have? Except for the likeness of you and Des with making posts into paragraphs and splitting one liners up to stand out?
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>>47777258
That's a dumb analogy.
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>>47777341
It's a dumb analogy because it's a dumb situation. Why try to pretend to be different people on an imageboard?

Also, I've used Apple products and I can tell you now that you can name your files on them. This is three people that actively choose not to name their files. Yet another similarity to add on to a large, large list.

Just accept that you've been called out as a troll and fuck off so we can stop falling for your bait.
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>>47777511
And now I know you are trolling. You've never save an image on any apple product or you'd know that I'm 100% correct. Have fun trying to troll from this point onward, kid.
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In Canon, how much can a planeswalker take with them per walk? Clothes, sure, but other people? Animals? Big backpack of stuff?
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Remember

>>47773157
>The best way to continue a topic is to respond to it. If you don't want a topic to continue, don't respond.

Stop feeding trolls.
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>>47777630
Besides mundane items (including magical items) it is implied that they might be able to take small organisms with them, as when the vampire tried to give Nissa the seeds from Zendikar. I'm not sure about animals, though.
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>>47777630
It depends on the power of the walker. It's stated that their experience as a planeswalker and their focus on walking depends on how much they can take with them. I don't know about another person, but I want to say it's been done post-mending before.
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>>47777630
>https://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt1I4jhlz

Q: How do planeswalkers manage to bring items/people with them when they planeswalk? To my understanding, the Blind Eternities are a pretty chaotic place, and without a spark, you aren't going to survive them long enough to get from one plane to the other. So how does Vraska carry her trophies around with her? What's Gideon going to do when he finally finds the one thing that'll help him fight the Eldrazi? So many questions!

>Planeswalkers can bring some amount of nonliving items with them when they planeswalk. Not a lot, but some. If Chandra wanted to planeswalk away from Kephalai with a scroll, she could. Planeswalkers still have pants on when they arrive somewhere, so, I mean, yeah. But there’s a limit. Chandra couldn’t bring with her, say, a city block.

>Unless something special is going on, planeswalkers can’t bring living beings with them. Only beings with active planeswalker sparks can leave a plane and travel to another one (except for weird and very rare exceptions, such as the Eldrazi titans, or someone with access to some kind of gate).

>Note that summoning creatures is not planeswalking. When you create a baloth out of the aether and have it fight for you, you’re magically creating an instance of baloth-ness, even if you’re summoning it while on Theros and you learned about baloths back on Zendikar. There is not one less baloth on Zendikar due to your summoning spell on Theros — Theros is just +1 baloth, thanks to you making a new one. However, summoned creatures tend to stop existing after a while — they last for a while, long enough to fight for you in a duel or whatever, but not forever.

There's an answer from the creative team directly.
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>>47777591
Of course you're not able to save images with names on Macs. Right.

Whatever you say, Des.
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>>47776145

I have one only too and to contribute with content I wrote some short stories, honestly I feel it is better like that.
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>>47776145
>>47778235
And now that we are at it...
I am pretty concerned about the +1 really. The -2 is a call back to a famous MTG coward and the Ulti, you can guess as well. The first ability was supposed to go along her splice into arcane deck theme, not sure if it ended up too strong.
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>>47778679
That -2 brings back good memories.
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>>47777706

Did they ever clarify if it's possible to involuntarily drag someone into the Blind Eternities with you when you go?
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>>47779336
As brutal as that is, I would go with no.
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>>47779572

Yeah, that'd probably be a little too broken. Like the "teleport with target a mile straight up, let go, teleport away" trick only more foolproof and gruesome.
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>>47779618
I want to see a villain who did that pre-mending. Not a flake though. A cannon villain.
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my own misreading and rereading had disappointed me, because I thought there was going to be a story about all the flakes going to college together, but now realize it's just going to be an art piece. I am sad.
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>>47780028
I believe Des is still working on that flake epic of her's. Who knows when she'll be done though.
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>>47780226
which flakes are in it?
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>>47780288
I don't remember who all is in it. I think it's supposed to be five good flakes and give evil flakes. The first two chapters are in the repo under The Snowstorm.
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So...uuuhh....

I drew Serena again.
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>>47780738
Show. Show.
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>>47780819
It's on paper. I don't have a scanner.

But it happened.
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>>47780364
do we have any distinctly neutral or unaligned flakes?
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>>47780857
Okay. I'll take your word for it. I bet it's absolutely gorgeous also.

>>47780923
In Des' writefagging or in general?
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>>47780923
Most of them, I'd say. We don't really rate according to a D&D system.
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>>47780923
Probably any of the colorless flakes.
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>>47781155
They're all relatively villainous though.
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>>47781227
Then define neutral.
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>>47781284
Behaving in a fashion that is neither altruistic nor villainous?
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>>47780923
I can give an alignment status on my flakes at least.

> Vronak
Neutral evil. He's more of an anti-hero if anything.
> Vontrask
Chaotic Neutral. He doesn't discriminate against those he experiments on.
> Emir
Chaotic Good. A thief with a heart of gold... And an eye for gold.
> Sephren
Neutral Good. More lazy than anything.
> Lord Æon
Lawful Evil. He might kill you. But, only time will tell.
> Íreth
Chaotic Good. She's has a good heart, just a wild one.
> Miyja
Chaotic Neutral. She might bash your brains in, but it's only because you're a threat to her status as an alpha female.
> Zulkaz
Neutral Evil. Evil with a pricetag.
> Andromeda
Neutral Evil. She's a big game hunter. Just don't let her know that you're a challenge.
> Raioh
Lawful Evil. A mercenary to a fault. No matter how wicked the deed.
> Graveborn
Chaotic Neutral. He might look spooky, but he just wants your booty.
> Tristram
Lawful Good. If he's in need, your aid he'll heed.
> Rinara
True Neutral. She doesn't give a shit about your or your plane's well being. She just wants power.

Huh, that's pretty balanced between good, neutral, and evil. Neat.
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>>47781438
I would argue that at least Messenger behaves like that.
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>>47781438
And maybe a few more. Just looking through the snow sheet buuut:

Inzhu, Father Christmas, maaaaybe Amund, probably Stuzec, Katin, the Rock, Nicodemus, maybe Varametra, maybe Hasomaru, and Myxxzzikt.

Any others are a toss up, I guess.
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>>47781774
His creator insists that he's created to be a villain, considering that he goes from plane to plane, gradually building hubs of myr from the ground up that slowly spread and assimilate the land they find themselves at.
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A bunch of flakes are on an artifact treasure hunt. Probably not as a group.

Who all is hunting?
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>>47780738
>>47780857
!!!
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>>47781774
>>47781838
Well you are both right. Messenger is meant to be neutral like that, absolutely uncaring about stuff going on, but its still going about its crazy mission. In that sense its meant to be a neutral villain, as its just doing what its supposed to do, not out from heroic or antagonistic tendencies. Its more like a force of nature in a way. Its not like a hurricane is a villain either, it just appears and does it thing.

But considering I never do anything, it doesnt matter how Messenger is seen. I honestly dont have a ground to try and enforce a character on it.
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>>47777591
Is this the new "Read the books"?
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>>47785252
No. A flake hasn't been made for it yet.
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>>47785252
It was a meme before bookworm came into existence.
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Speaking of neutrality and whatnot, tell us your flake's alignment based on the 3rd ed alignment system.
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>>47785431
I suck at quoting.
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>>47785432
Neutral Good I think.
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>>47785432
>Razorcock
Chaotic evil

>Spider mom
Neutral evil

>Myxxzzikt
True neutral

>Gaia
True neutral. Her personality is more Neutral good, but her personal "look don't touch" policy is pretty damn True neutral.

>Belagir
Neutral good
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>>47785432
>Messenger
True Neutral
>Beep
Chaotic good
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And in today's Magic story we learn absolutely nothing because everyone with a brain already worked this stuff out.
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>>47786746
We learn that Nahiri is justifiably angry and in fact
did nothing wrong.
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>>47787045
Justifiably angry? Yes. That doesn't justify her actions though.
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>>47787045
>>47787082
still looks like she threw a bitchfit and didn't try figuring out anything that was going on.

hell, she didn't even try to STOP the eldrazi the second time. she just went "well, this shit's fucked and I'm upset, I'm just gonna go ruin COUNTLESS MILLIONS OF LIVES BECAUSE MY SENPAI DIDN'T NOTICE ME"
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>>47787113
>>47787082
When she was told repeatedly that the Eldrazi couldn't be stopped by a dragon, told that enough that she agreed to trap them on her home plane, gee I wonder why she didn't try to stop them.
Stay mad avafags, I'm gonna kick it with the righteous queen of vengeance.
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>>47787176
not an avafag, I'm just not a fan of the beaten-to-death trope of "we're planeswalkers so we're not gonna talk about anything, we're just gonna fight our way through our differences"
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>>47787191
Well talking kind of failed early on in the story.
If it went
"Sorin, come with me to Zendikar!"
"I will, but I need some orange juice and blood pancakes. I have a massive hangover from creating the Helvault and Avacyn, who is this angel btw, and I need to recover before I go anywhere."
"Ok I guess, can I get some OJ too?"
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>>47787221
We all know that Sorin is a dick, but so is Nahiri. Taking it out on Innistrad, Avacyn and all the people on it to get back at him is beyond childish and dumb. The're both massive cunts.
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To be fai, she only directly killed the Markovs and one guy. Avacyn is her fault, but the inquisition is all on humanity.
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>>47785432
>Ka'koarm
Chaotic Stupid, all the way
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>>47787413
The inquisition is very likely caused by the madness as is all the normally devout people turning to worship faggots like Ormendahl. The madness is Nahiri's fault so yeah, it's all on her.
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>>47787473
I need a source on that
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>>47785432

>Astera
Neutral Good

>WG Sonia/WR Sonia
Neutral Good/Lawful Good verging on Lawful Neutral

>Dyna
Chaotic Neutral

>Maribelle
Lawful Frilly (Good and Evil can both mind their manners and dress nicely)

>Vanya
Neutral Evil

>Zenri
Chaotic Good

>Hakam
Lawful Evil (Perceives himself as Neutral Good)

>Kikiki
Chaotic Neutral (Lizard wizards also have no sense of right or wrong)

>>47787413

They've indicated the Inquisition is mostly because somehow nobody noticed that most of the Lunarch Council was infiltrated by the Skirsdag looking to stir up trouble for the Profane Prince.

Nahiri was wronged pretty badly by Sorin, but if they expect me to sympathize with her when she responded with plans to enslave a group of innocents, force them to murder another group of innocents, and then genocide whoever was left over with her "moon" plan, fuck that. Revenge by proxy is the refuge of the cowardly and morally bankrupt.
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>>47787525
There's a lot of card art and descriptions that show how the madness is affecting the people of Innistrad including a lot of DFCs. Such as Hanweir Militia Captain and Pious Evangel.

>>47787869
>Revenge by proxy is the refuge of the cowardly and morally bankrupt.
This.
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Fuck Nahiri. Fuck Sorin. Fuck Innistrad. I just want to watch.this shitshow.burn.
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>>47787869
>Everything you just said
Mah nigga
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>>47788414
>fuck Nahiri.
I know I would.
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>>47788608
Well, yeah. I mean whp wouldn't?

But seriously. Fuck that bitch.
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>>47788414
>>47788765
I want to stop reading these stories.
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>>47788843
No one is making you. Of course it might help if you relent and let Nahiri into your heart
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>>47788867
>Nahiri
>Not Phyrexia
Anon, please. You know all will be one.
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>>47789044
Who do you think she is the Harbinger of?
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>>47789583
Bob, from Accounting.
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>>47789649
I'd like to think that somewhere in the vast, oil infested hell hole of Mirrodin there is some Phyrexian who spends eternity in a cubicle just keeping track of bodies, oil supplies and materials
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>>47789680
this time on "Beep doesn't belong there but god damn would it be funny"
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>>47789680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgPEhrB7ebc
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Collage updated.

Like Gaia mentioned a few threads back, the image is too large for all of the snowflakes to be on a single file, so this is just the first of two files. Sorry if your snowflake didn't make the cut in this file, I'll start working on the next image as soon as possible - just not today.
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>>47789680
>"Norn, I don't care if you want to invade Ravnica. That amount of oil doesn't exist in our budget"
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>>47790493
I fucking love you

I fucking love you so much

Holy shit
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>>47790493
Excellent.
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>>47790532
I'm imaging him forcing norn to fill out tons of tedious paperwork
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>>47790493
I see a theme.
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>>47790493

Nicely done, collage anon!
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>>47790493
I wish Narimi/Selenra anon would come back. I really liked both of those flakes. Reading Narimi's description reminded me of this.
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>>47790761
What theme?
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>>47790761
Way to beat around the bush instead of saying what your problem is. I didn't spot it until you mentioned it, but I guess I'll say it for everyone else's benefit:

Look which flake-maker is missing some things.
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>>47791038
>>47790972
>>47790761
I did apologize for being unable to fit all of the flakes in the first of the two images but I'll be starting work on the second one as soon as I have the time available, I promise.
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>>47791038
Are flakes of some specific creator missing? I wouldnt fucking know since the numbers are overly bloated already so its impossible to keep track of everyone who isnt atleast a little interesting.
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>>47791115
The person who called out a "theme" is Vronak. Vronak is missing. And that's just in mono-black.
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>>47791151
So Vronak's flakes will be on Page 2, and it's easy to pick his out because he's stated the thirteen flakes he's made and that keeps his together - and that also gives the current collager time to find a good quality symbol for purple, since good old Vronak wasn't thinking about that when he decided to make a purple character.
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>>47791268
Someone made a fucking purple walker and we are actually humoring that fucking thought?

What the fuck is even going on in these threads?
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>>47791316
>MtG flavor, lore, waifushit and snowflakes
>waifushit and snowflakes
>snowflakes
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What we really need is a pink walker.

...Besides Mirabelle.
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>>47791316
Vronak made a black character and called it purple by saying she was from an alternate reality (and tinting the cards purple).
Everyone called it dumb except Vronak, who defended it in his usual way.
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>>47791316
Here it is.
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>>47791365
Basically this.

>>47791316
I'm sure as hell not. And if no one writes about the flake, then it doesn't matter.
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>>47791268
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>>47791462
>.gif
>jagged, pixelated edges

What part of quality...
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>>47791268
Here is the accepted purple mana symbol.
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>>47791375

That seems...unneccessary?

Oldwalker from a plane that apparently had multiples as opposed to the first one that came along saying "I am now king of this shit, any of you other motherfuckers wants to be here FIGHT ME", uses a unique sixth color, is very clearly monoblack but not because reasons...this really feels like it was designed purely to push the envelope of "every idea is equally shit and therefore acceptable."
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>>47791268
Or maybe this.
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>>47791504
It smoothes out as you reduce the size.
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>>47791561
As someone that actually does some graphic design, that is a piss-poor excuse for not using better quality vector graphics.
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>>47791513
WOTC stated they planned on Purple being represented by blue and black themed cards. So, I rolled with it. Now, I've actually decided to try my hand at making some custom purple cards and was longing for input to make them more balanced and round out what makes Purple in card-flavor. Here is a couple cards I am tinkering with.
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>>47791594
I wouldn't argue with that. But, I didn't make the image.
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>>47791626
Remove the "That Player" Parts from the actions in the top right card
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>>47791626

Have you considered tinkering with cards that won't make everyone else at the table take turns kicking you?
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>>47791649
The reason I used "that player", because if I use "you", people might confuse it with the enchantment's controller.
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>>47791661
So, what you're saying is that competitive play shouldn't be a thing? You shouldn't like anything an opponent plays. That's the point of building your own deck, isn't it? But, what would you suggest in it's place?
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>>47791642
As much as I don't approve of your nonsense, I'll remember to vector out a better one the next time I've got some spare time in my work space (it might be a while, because I usually do totally different projects during the summer).

>>47791626
Purple gets:
Countering - better than Blue. Only Blue gets X counterspells and Force Spikes.
Direct Damage - second to Red
Anti-Enchantment - worse than White or Green

Purple is between Blue and Black - enemy of Green. Its basic land is City.

^^^
These are from the design notes, and are probably the best existing guideline for how to build purple.
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Due to a lack of desire to put much effort into finding the proper symbol for purple and making it look good, I'll just use a solid purple circle, as you'll seen in this WIP image.
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>>47791669
you don't even need to use "You". Just the ability itself is enough. you've already established that it's being activated by whoever's upkeep it is.
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>>47791626
Completely ditch the instant. No amount of tweaking is going to fix those effects, it is not something that would see print. And thinking it would be four mana for a onesided wrath/armageddon split is laughable, even with the downsides - the wrath half is more of a drawback, but nuking someone's landbase for 4 is completely retarded when it's onesided like that.
And legendary supertype does nothing at all on instants and sorceries. Remove that entirely.
I hate to say this, but you are bad at designing cards, and should not be going for making cards of a brand new color with your first attempt at doing so.
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>>47791718
And the theme persists. Congrats. I guess calling me Des is a running gag now? Cute.
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>>47791375
Oh my god. That is hilarious retarded.
>>47791336
Nah, fuck that. There are some fucking limits with asshattery.
>>47791626
>>47791700
This shit is on the level of
Super spell 1 Colorless
Instant
You win the game
Fuck you. There is a difference in being competetive and making self jerking idiotic fantasy cards.
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>>47791759
I was planning on making all purple cards being legendary and making a purple tutor deal with searching for legendary cards only.
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>>47791781
They're literally randomly picked. I mean, not all of the snowflakes in that image are made by you and Des, I'm sure.

You need to understand that some things are coincidence, anon. I'm sorry but I promise I'll get started on this image for you guys as soon as possible. This isn't some sort of conspiracy against you so I really suggest that you avoid getting paranoid.
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>>47791815
That is a horrible reason for making legendary sorceries and instants.
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Very well, I tell you what... If you guys would do me the honor, make four purple cards each with the same themes/mechanics and I'll add them to the flake. That way we get a little bit from everyone. Sound good? Or does no one have any real ideas?
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>>47791700

Worldly Shift isn't "competetive," it's massively overpowered, and "4P: Skullfuck target monocolored deck out of the game" isn't a thing that should exist, ever. Basic lands should be the hardest fucking thing in the game to get rid of, not something you can board-wipe on a card that also wipes tribals and hoses artifact and enchantment strategies when it can't blow up a ton of basic lands in one go.

The enchantment is also pretty stupid, given that you're basically guaranteed to Time Walk your opponent while also getting one of the other effects, for the "tradeoff" that you have to take one of them, neither of which is going to be that big a deal compared to skipping your opponent's turn.

>>47791815

>I will attach a supertype indicating rarity to literally every card in this color.
>I will even shoehorn it onto instants and sorceries despite it being a supertype for permanents
>I will make purple tutors be "search for any card in this color and a number of other things besides"

That may be the stupidest thing I've heard all day. Congratulations.
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>>47791869
No.

Making a snowflake with custom cards as favored spells is a pretty fucking awful sin, seeing as we're meant to work with what we already have rather than just supplant existing material with shit we make up.
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>>47791869
I like card design. I like card design a lot.

But I won't do that. Ask me for anything else within the normal boundaries of the game and I will be all over that junk, but purple is too far out there.
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Very well then, don't worry about the flake and strike it from the flake list collage.
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>>47791931
It wasn't for WOTC's R&D when they decided to toss the idea around of a Purple mana color.
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>>47791960
And then decided that no, it wasn't worth it at all and tossed the idea out
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>>47791960
You read the materials on Purple, right? They even admitted that it would have been easier to do early on when the colors didn't have established identities. By 2005, the color pie had become so established that they had to try building it based on what already existed because there were no big, new things to give away. And then it didn't feel good, and they just had to give up on doing it.

Purple just doesn't belong in Magic. If this were 1995 or something we'd be having a totally different conversation.
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>>47791997
Do you know why they decided not to do it? And not because it was a bad idea.
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>>47792015
>>47792019
The reason they exed the idea was because they were only going to do it for one set and wouldn't be able to print enough cards to make it worth while to make a deck out of the color. That's why.
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>>47792080
You can't refute that Purple was problematic though, because it very much was. And that was over ten years ago. Now it would be an even taller, less reasonable order to try making it.
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>>47792109
>>47792080
Read here for all of the problems of purple for yourself, rather than spouting sourceless nonsense:
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/color-purple-2007-01-29
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>>47792109
Oh, it had a host of problems. Like thinking a city could produce mana. Even though we have Ravnica. But, we also have new minds in the R&D, so I think it could be done much easier than it would have been back in Time Spiral. But, problems doesn't stop R&D from approving shit. Like with Affinity and Heroic.
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>>47792159
The alternative for "city" was "cave," mind you. They chose city because it thematically made more sense given where it would have landed in the color pie. And fresh minds are always good, but there are some things, like color identity, that become harder and harder to get around the longer that the game goes on and the concept is refined again and again.
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>>47792254
Oh, I'm not saying that it would t still be challenging. I'm just saying not as much as it was back then. Also, this is a thing. Pic related.
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>>47792293

I feel like Purple and Yellow are basically just Red and Black in this.
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Goodnight flake thread. As always if anyone has ideas for writefagging let me know. I'll see you in the morning in probably a new thread, try not to shit post too much, friends.
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>>47792321
You see "passionate" and you think all of it equates to red even though it has "uninhibited thinging" and creative thinking"?
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>>47792293
A fan created thing.
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>>47792489

Creativity and being uninhibited IS red. Blue has a minor claim to it but Blue hates and fears spontaneity so it can never be as creative as Red.
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>>47792533
Spontaneity isn't creative thinking. In fact, is usually the opposite. Spontaneity is acting with little to no thought.
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>>47792533
Also, Blue is the most creative color. It's enginuity at it's finest.
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>>47792678
You mean ingenuity. You know, the word that is like "ingenious."

This argument is foolish. Blue seeks knowledge and progress in a logical fashion, but lacks the kind of inspiration by sponteneity that red has to itself. This is why Izzet can reach such outrageous results just from an errant thought.
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>>47792658

Nevertheless, red is the color of uninhibited thought, artistic expression, flashes of inspiration.

Blue is imaginative but it's also cold and calculating, devoid of sentiment and distrustful of anything emotional. It can invent, but it doesn't really "get" many aspects of art because you can't quantify them.

Its way of thinking is also rather inhibited at times. Again, Blue's distaste for emotion and instinct means it often has a very narrow-minded approach to its thinking and dismisses things it can't measure as unimportant.
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Daily reminder that Jace is an asshole.
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Daily reminder that the only hope for this world is Emrakul.
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>>47794904
I'm gonna cling to that lage hope I have until they say Emrakul's name.
I know they're gonna say it, but I'm gonna hold onto my dreams for as long as I can
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