Shitposting edition.
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
THIS THREAD HAS BEEND FORTIFIED!
is Coteaz still top tier cheese on most tourneys as an ally?
>>47745067
Not really. Only 2+ armor, no invuln, ML 2 psyker for 100 points. Meh overall.
>>47745067
Well if the local meta is "All the drop pods all the time" then yeah. But if that's what you are running up against then anything up to and including using your regulation hammer is acceptable.
It's like the tau is having vietnam-style flashbacks to that time they went to the chicken planet.
>This concept is the greater good
>No proof
>It just is
>Proof
>Er. Have you seen our battlesuits? They have far more firepower than your military...
>Where's the proof
>Er. Hey, here's the ethereal, he's noble and-
>Let's see proof of that
>AAAARGH
Just got snipped out of 2 metal powerfist comissars for $6 on ebay in the last 10 seconds. Tell me a joke to lift my spirits /tg/
>>47745131
The Ork codex.
>>47745117
I'm dying here.
>>47745131
6e Tyranids.
>>47745131
My last game I played
>>47745131
An old asian man goes to the doctor. after his checkup, the doctor says he has cataracts, to which the old man replies, 'no cataracts, i drive a rinkin'
>>47745131
What did the anon say to the other anon?It was me.
Oops, missed the new thread while double checking to make sure I'm not retarded. Where can I find this Inquisitor? It's not a GW or FW sculpt as far as I can tell, but it doesn't make sense to use it to show scale if it's a custom one-off.
tallarn vs slannesh
who wins?
How would you make a list against a 1000p Tau list that only has drones. No tanks, no fire warrios, no suits, just drones of every flavour
>>47745131
+++DISTRESS SIGNAL RECEIVED+++
+++DEPLOY THE COMEDY MARINES+++
+++THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: HONK+++
>>47745163
Now you have to tell us
i think games workshop is run by tat guy, they now have "game breaker" bundles.
>>47745177
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Grey-Knights-Inquisitor-Coteaz
The rules are e-book only.
>>47745181
The Ultramarines
>>47739845
1) Lack of identity.
CSM aren't meant to be direct analogues of SM; Cool. Except their equipment and units are way too close to SM with all the nice shiny toys gone. CSM can only have 2 special weapons for some reason, Havocs can only have four heavy weapons, because reasons. All of their equipment is identical to loyalist stuff except for the Reaper Autocannon, but they don't get grav, or teleport homers, or drop pods, or w/e: All the good bits of loyalist equipment. What's more, none of the Chaos-specific stuff is terribly good. Each type of daemon engine has some pretty glaring problems; Possessed are no different than assault marines that traded their grenades and jump packs for a daemon save and S5, Land Raiders are the shittiest varient, etc.
2) Lack of special rules making them boring. Chaos' sole special rule is Champions of Chaos, a rule that is, at best, fluffy but doesn't ever effect the game because nothing ever gets something useful out of a challenge. Marks are a poor replacement for chapter tactics to begin with (Like half the legions aren't god-specific), and stat-line changes are boring. That's ignoring the fact that like two and a half of the marks are garbage, as are two of the icons. VOTLW is neat, but it shouldn't be an upgrade, and doesn't exactly represent veteran CSM the way it's supposed to since it's most expensive for the guys who should, logically, be more likely to be veterans.
((Inb4 someone posts the stupid 'CSM should have chapter master statlines' meme))
3) Points inefficiencies, and inability to get redundancies. Lots of shit in the codex is a lot more expensive than it should be, the codex has real problems with hitting all the bases you need a list to it. Fast assault troops? Objective grabbers? Really only found in fast attack. AP2? Heavy Support or super-expensive chosen.
4. Garbage formations. This one should be self explanatory.
>>47745177
Are you >>47745134? That's a dark angel librarian from the dark vengeance set.
>>47745131
>in the last 10 seconds
>not bidding in the last 3 seconds
you were asking for it
>>47745184
This is good
>>47745184
>BROTHER: WHAT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF COOKING A VEGETABLE
>FITTING THE GOLDEN THRONE IN THE OVEN
Holy kek this got me.
>>47745131
Name my band /w40kg/
>>47745234
Derp. Thanks. I guess I am just retarded.
Meltagun
>>47745274
Godspeed you! Black Avatar
>>47745291
Meltagun
>>47745291
There's having a bad day, and then there's getting headshotted with a melta weapon.
I modeled some regular Marine bikes yesterday and now I want to put EVERYTHING on bikes.
Help.
>>47745274
Five bean casserole
>>47745326
>Imperial knight using bikes as roller skates
I'm okay with this.
>>47745315
are there any female units in the game?
>>47745355
Yes.
You can be either female or male eldar.
>>47745274
>>47745279
Just shave off the Dark Angels symbol with a knife and he'd make a pretty good terminator inquisitor.
>>47745274
Allah and the ahkbars
>>47745323
Dark Reapers can dispense some good "fuck you" too.
>>47745093
>Unlimited interceptor with no drawbacks
>Can OHKO any Psyker/Daemon
>"lol fuck off with your seize roll"
I once killed ~750pts of battle suits with Coteaz in a IG veteran squad because my opponent deep-struck in Hammer and Anvil. Poor bastard forgot about the rule and thought it was just standard interceptor.
>>47745580
Wait, what's the order of operations there? Can you let him place all of his Deep Strikes while snickering quietly to yourself and then stomp him or are you supposed to shoot each one in turn?
>>47745580
>Can OHKO any Psyker
One perils isn't really all that bad...
>>47745465
>About a month ago
>Trying to get friend into 40k
>Off visiting family for mother's day, visit a FLGS in San Luis Obispo
>Tell my buddy they have 40k shit and I'll bring some back
>He's been debating between Eldar and Necrons
>Get me some Orks, I'm gonna play them
>Are you sure bro? Orks are pretty garbage
>I know, but they seem like they'd be fun to just play as
>Fast forward to present
>We're setting up for a game
>He's just sitting there bitching about how Orks are bad and it's unfair that he has to fight my tanks
>All he ever does is bitch about how Orks are bad
How do I stop this? It's getting to the point where I don't want to play with him anymore because all he does is bitch.
Tell me about your dudes /tg/. Who are they? What is their name? What have they done? What are their achievements and accomplishments, as well as their backstory?alternatively, if you haven't got around to naming and fluffing your dudes, post about their achievements in past games and perhaps we can help fluff them out. God knows it would a better use of space and time than a great portion of last general
>>47746095
idk. I've lost to orks twice. Granted I've only played four games and lost 3....
>>47745714
It's done at the end of movement, so the former.
>>47746095
>How do I stop this? It's getting to the point where I don't want to play with him anymore because all he does is bitch
Remind him that you told him from the start that orks are shit, and as such he really shouldn't complain. He knew the risks. You might want to try and convince him to start a second army that he could use as his main one instead of orks (though that would depend upon financial situations, not everyone has the money to have more than one army, and very few can start a new one and begin with a large force), allowing him to relegate his orks to something played only in fluffy and for fun games
>>47746095
Buy him better units.
What's he got?
>>47745823
It's a leadership check. The model is simply removed on a fail.
>>47745345
Now that you mention it....
>>47746181
I can guarantee whatever he lists wont have enough boyz
How would you stat these things?
>>47745291
>>47745315
Eh, I prefer the way Space Marine made meltaguns be llike anti-tank shotguns
>>47746114
The Surian Desert Dogs. Formed out of a Tallarn regiment that was merged with a local PDF force, they're experts in lightning mechanised strikes, guerrilla warfare, and desert survival.
They've been fighting a guerrilla war against an Alpha Legion-backed cult, and were expecting to be reinforced by the Ultramarines, but the Ultramarines took the view that they've been hiding on a chaos infested planet for far too long to be uncorrupt. Now they're fighting for survival against both the chaos and Ultramarine forces.
Necron players, I keep seeing these itty bitty Scarabs about, not the ones that come with the Warriors but these little tiny ones, where are they from?
>>47746232
They were completely unfluffy in Space Marine.
>>47745291
is this... ps2 game?
>>47746276
How? A rapid explosion of super-hot gasses was basically what they were.
>>47746235
They also were subject to a horrible defeat at the hands of an Eldar Farseer and his jet bike swarm
Going all out and buying 2 units of 3 wyverns because a Stalins organ style guard army sounds great at 2.5k. My necron playing friend is telling me they'll only do 2 wounds against his immortals (all 6 firing). I'm not good at math hammer at all but this seems out by a very wide margin. Could someone confirm my suspicions and maybe give me some correct calculations?
>>47746114
I play Storm Wardens because I like their color scheme and I'm not creative enough to come up with my own (I like to write but color is my weakness).
I want to make my own color scheme eventually but I quite like blue and silver.
>>47746281
Clearly you haven't played a PS 2 game in a while, seeing how PS 2 couldn't hope to render that sort of graphics.
>>47746291
Because they were fucking shotguns. Meltas have always been described as beams of heat, not god damn shotguns.
>>47746262
the tesseract vault has a bunch of tiny scarabs, I'm pretty sure
>>47746342
ah ok, cool
>>47746313
>Going all out and buying 2 units of 3 wyverns because a Stalins organ style guard army sounds great
Then take off your little girl skirt and put on MAN PANTS! 6 DEATHSTRIKES, ALL FIRING, NOWHERE TO RUN, NOWHERE TO HIDE! FROM THE EMPEROR'S STRAIGHT INTO THE ENEMY'S LOINS!
That or 6 Manticore batteries for S9 AP2 7'' blasts. Fuck the enemy with your giant dick missiles instead of your silly micro size mortars.
>>47746330
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>47746340
Shotguns in game role, maybe. They didn't exactly have any spread the same way a shotgun usually does. Short range insta-kill guns is basically Exactly how melta should behave.
>>47746276
I dont know, I could see a raygun acting fast enough that it looks like a shotgun instead of just aiming and waiting for the ray to do the work.
>>47745131
>>47745237
You guys know eBay has an auto bid feature right?
Sniping is useless unless you use a program to get in at the last millisecond.
>>47746235
Niiice! Kinda reminds me of my regiment that's formed from local PDF and a cadian regiment that was at about quarter strength. Sadly don't have much lore yet since I just started recently and haven't gotten any games in.
>>47745223
What if CSM got the Gal Vorbak statline?
What's everyone working on?
The quality of the painting some people in here display on their models fucking blows my mind.
Some of you guys are gods
>>47746530
You aint seen shit, m8.
>>47746556
Stip making me want to play/buy Tyranids. Stop.
>>47746556
HOW
>>47746580
Common, imagine 4 of these faggots flying around fucking shit up and pissing off everyone you'll ever play.
>>47746530
>Only 4 people have posted their models so far
>mine is one of them
>mfw
>>47746556
This shit should come with a trigger warning.
>>47746556
Holy shit is that thing pregnant?
>>47746609
Something wrong?
>>47746621
Its a Tervigon, so yes.
>>47746556
looks highlighted with a micro pen.
>>47746633
Did you make this? If so, how?
>>47746633
>Is something wrong?
Yeah I'm having an existential crisis just looking at thing, I can't tell if it's a 3d model or a 2d binder sketch.
>>47746499
>What's everyone working on
Pic related
>>47746580
tyranids literally have the best plastic range in the game
they're garbage on the table, but the models are fantastic
>>47746499
I'm making a grey knight captain and librarian out of a grey knight termie kit.
I fell for the shitty resin one on their website so I also have to get rid of that somehow.
>>47746667
I wish, an anon here posted the Tervigon picture a while ago and said he found it elsewhere even longer ago.
Search Cell Shaded Tyranids on Google.
>>47746668
Oh I know what you mean. Its the white background that does it.
Hey, I used to play to Warhammer 40k back in 2008-2010. I stopped around 2010 but I'm thinking about playing again since I'll have some free times next years. What has changed since 2010 ?
>>47746714
New edition, some new codices, Tau and Eldar are now top tier. A new CEO was named at GW and we're all hoping he can do something, anything to unfuck this game.
>>47746193
Good units m8.
>>47746694
That shit looks fine anon. got any more?
>>47746714
Based Roundtree is trying to fix things. He even brought back the specialist games division, and I'm pretty sure is the one who gave the OK for the Start Collecting bundles that actually offer good deals.
>>47746732
Are Tau top tier because of cheese though?
>>47746773
Yes.
>>47746732
>New edition
Anything new in the rules ? (If I remember correctly, I was playing during the 5th edition)
>>47746694
GodEmperor Damn, that's hot.
My buddy is getting into the game with me, but he's having a hard time deciding what army he wants to play. He didn't care for Necrons or Tau, so he's trying Space Wolves. Here is the list we wrote up for him, what do you guys think? Tried making an assault army with more wolves than you can wolf a wolf at.
++ Space Wolves: Codex (2014) (SW Wolf Claw Strike Force) (1493pts) ++
+ Core (1333pts) +
Legendary Greatpack (1333pts)
····The Deathwolves
········Blood Claws
············5x Blood Claw [5x Bolt Pistol, 5x Chainsword]
············Wolf Guard Pack Leader [Power Sword, Storm Bolter]
········Blood Claws
············5x Blood Claw [5x Bolt Pistol, 5x Chainsword]
············Wolf Guard Pack Leader [Power Sword, Storm Bolter]
········Canis Wolfborn, the Feral Knight [2x Fenrisian Wolf, Warlord]
········Fenrisian Wolves [5x Fenrisian Wolf]
········Grey Hunters
············5x Grey Hunter [5x Bolt Pistol, 5x Bolter]
········Grey Hunters [Wolf Standard]
············5x Grey Hunter [5x Bolt Pistol, 5x Bolter]
········Harald Deathwolf, Lord of the Wolfkin [2x Fenrisian Wolf]
········Long Fangs [2x Long Fang, 2x Long Fang w/ Missile Launcher]
············Long Fang Ancient [Meltagun, Power Sword]
········Thunderwolf Cavalry
············Thunderwolf Cavalry [Storm Shield, Wolf Claw]
············Thunderwolf Cavalry [Storm Shield, Wolf Claw]
············Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader [Storm Shield, Wolf Claw]
········Wolf Scouts [Camo Cloaks for Wolf Scouts, 5x Wolf Scout (Boltgun)]
············Wolf Guard Pack Leader [Combi Melta, Frost Sword]
············Wolf Scout (Heavy/Special) [Meltagun]
+ Auxiliary (160pts) +
Wolfkin (160pts)
····Fenrisian Wolves [5x Fenrisian Wolf]
····Fenrisian Wolves [5x Fenrisian Wolf]
····Fenrisian Wolves [5x Fenrisian Wolf]
····Fenrisian Wolves [5x Fenrisian Wolf]
What's the formation?
>>47746773
When has anything ever become top tier without any cheese?
>>47746800
I'm actually returning from 4th edition myself, so i'm not totally up to date with all the changes. For the most part melee units are mostly irrelevant now with how good most shooty armies are.
>>47746694
Paint shopping.
going to prime my sisters when this flooding stops
>>47746694
I love how they look except for the red mask and the green lasguns. It just seems off.
>>47746773
Tau fluff is really bad now too. The players are also unapologetic about it as well.
Someone post the bit where that one Tau guy 360 no-scopes an assault marine who was being all sneaky on him.
>>47746830
>Pre-order
>>47746859
IIRC it wasn't even an assault marine ripping and tearing with a chainsword and with a jet engine strapped to his back, it was a tactical of the sneaky beaky chapter being sneaky.
>>47746854
>For the most part melee units are mostly irrelevant now with how good most shooty armies are.
So orks are shit now ? Too bad
>>47746830
No idea, yet. My money's on "Characters within 12'' of the Helbrute can reroll chaos rewards".
>>47746904
Everyone agrees that Orks, CSM, and Tyranids are the 3 worst armies in the game right now. They are there for many different reasons, but melee being bad effects every army and the game as a whole.
A waac player will always beat a casual player no matter the faction. I've seen waac ork players beat up casual Eldar players. Winning at Warhammer 40k is 90 percent list and 10 percent roll off for forst turn.
>>47746886
Nah, I'm thinking of a different piece, though that's just as bad.
>>47746926
Welp time to trash my BT army I guess. Feels bad coming back to the game after years and finding out your favorite chapter got buttfucked by GW.
>>47746948
Being a Tyranids player is suffering.
>>47746966
Fun at any cost, huh?
>>47746859
Don't. Let's be smart about this and not create another pointless Tau hate thread that leads to people getting called salty Imperial or Taufags.
>>47746926
What about the space marines ? It was the army I played before stopping around 2010
>>47746859
>>47746886
It's a scene from Blades of Damocles where a young Commander Farsight and Tau are fighting off the Ultramarines 8th Company and Hammers of Dorn.
Farsight confronts the Apothecary at gunpoint to learn why he is risking his life to drill holes in his fallen comrades, and his shoulder plasma automatically tracks and guns down a Tactical Marine that charged at him to save the Apothecary.
>>47746987
Is IG that good now?
I read into their codex a little bit today, the new Orders look pretty fucking cool
>>47746987
Just how many Riptides do you own then, boy?
>>47746907
That sounds like the sort of rubbish GW would offer.
>>47746948
Play 30k my black brother, its so much fun and better than Grav: The Codex and you get to field Sigismund, the one and only Emperor's Champion and his the Templar Bros!
It just sucks that our army is just meh, useless if you dont go grav out of your ass and assaulting shit sucks, it reminds me back in 5th where if you didnt bring at least 5-10 Cyclone launchers you were fucked.
>>47746991
Space marines are top tier, up with Eldar.
The biggest 'that guy' who is also a waacfag also players Space marines with conclave on bikes, grave cents, and a unkillable HQ on bike with invisibility.
>>47746991
vary between mediocre and extremely powerful depending on army build
unless you rely on monobuild formations and psychic spam, marines are at best "good"
if you play with similarly casual folks, all armies have at least some kind of chance.
>>47746948
Black Templars now have canonically only around 1300 members. Crusader squads can't be used in place of Tactical Squads, etc.
But since they're Sapce Marines, they're still better than half the codices in the game.
>>47746984
Despite the codex being totally fucked beyond repair, at least we have Tervigons and Mawlocs. They're pretty fun.
>>47746991
I wouldn't know, I don't play SM. Sorry.
>>47747042
>unkillable HQ on bike with invisibility.
Man 7E fucking sucks doesnt it
>>47747021
>Not wanting the thread to devolve into shitposting means you own multiple riptides
Or maybe nobody wants a shitposting fest that lasts several days again.
>>47746995
The Hammers of Dorn had always followed the Codex Astartes to the letter, but in this case, conventional planetfall tactics had turned out to be ill-advised. This was a massacre, nothing less.
Apothecary Antaloch edged over to a fallen battle-brother. The dying warrior had a hole in his chest that Antaloch could fit his fist through. Releasing the armour’s cuirass, he plunged his reductor deep into his comrade’s neck. A thick churning sound grumbled under the roar of battle as Antaloch extracted the progenoid glands and stowed them with the dozens of others he had flasked thus far. The Apothecary was intoning the last rites when there was a crack of impact; a xenos warsuit thumped down in front of Antaloch and pressed the muzzle of its energy rifle to his helmet. The Apothecary froze. The alien assassin filled his vision, statuesque and lethal. The figure would have dwarfed a Terminator.
‘It is unclear,’ stated the giant in stilted Imperial Gothic, its hidden speakers uncannily like a real voice. ‘You must know this one does not live, ministrator-medic-equivalent.’
‘Aye,’ growled Antaloch, ‘and yet his due must be given.’
‘Despite the likelihood of sustaining lethal damage yourself.’
‘Just so,’ said the Apothecary. He fought the urge to cover the precious geneseed flasks. A moment of stillness passed.
‘Your stance is defensive, yet not indicative of self-preservation,’ stated the warsuit. Before he could reply, bolter shells detonated between the giant’s jump engines. Its shoulder-mounted blaster whirred around, obliterating the Space Marine running in behind it. Its energy rifle never moved from Antaloch’s helm.
‘A theory. During the death ritual, you recover a substance and/or information code that your warrior caste deems vital.’
Antaloch stared up at the towering figure, but said nothing.
>>47747059
>Black Templars now have canonically only around 1300 members.
I thought Ward was gone. Fuck this gay earth.
>>47747059
>Crusader squads can't be used in place of Tactical Squads, etc.
These people are fucking retarded
>>47747072
‘Interesting,’ said the xenos giant. ‘Proceed then, by all means.’ Raising its rifle in a brief salute, the battlesuit boosted up into the skies on twin tongues of flame.
Blinking in disbelief, the Apothecary voxed, ‘Captain Rumann? When this is over, we need to talk.’
>Its a "Guy doesnt respond to your reply on kijiji/craigslists/local classified website question"
Imperial Guard - (HoR Kill Team)
Leaders:
>Force Commander (31)
>[Bolt Pistol, Antax Pattern Armour]
Core:
>Infantry Squad (30)
>[Flamer]
>Infantry Squad (30)
>[Flamer]
>Veteran Squad (45)
>[Plasma Rifle]
>Veteran Squad (40)
>[Meltagun]
Sergeant (6)
>[Camo Cloak + Snare Mines]
>Heavy Weapons Team (25)
>[Autocannon, Camo Gear + Snare Mines]
Special:
>Scout Sentinel (40)
>[Autocannon]
>Tempestus Scion (27)
>[Medi-kit]
Total: 249
Thoughts? This is my first Kill Team list.
>>47747083
Battle Company would be insane with 1 grav gun 1 combi grav 1 grav cannon per 5 crusader tac squads.
>>47747092
Flamer infantry squads are 30 fucking points?
Holy shit
>>47747083
Nope, Ward is gone.
That was confirmed by a BL author who said that GW officials wanted it so.
>>47747021
I don't play the game and a BA/DA/AdMechfag first and foremost.
>>47747083
Ward had nothing to do with it. It was from a BL novel but the author said it was GW themselves that wanted it done.
>>47747092
>>47747092
Flamer guardsmen squads are 30 fucking points?
Holy shit
>>47747083
>I thought Ward was gone.
ward wrote good codexes and fun fluff, though
>>47747067
Phase Form (WC1)
Targets a single friendly unit within 24". The unit gains Move Through Cover and Ignores Cover. In addition, the unit does not even need line of sight to fire on an enemy unit, as long as they are in weapons range
>>47747083
>These people are fucking retarded
Well the Demi Company represents a codex abiding chapter's company, so Templars SHOULDNT use it but it still sucks that they didnt bother to give us an alternative, not even in the new supplement.
>>47747096
If anyone wanted to just spam grav we could've done it just CAD's repeated infinitely and yet its not insane and BT are not anywhere the more supported chapters like IH or WS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaTGrV58wec
>>47747111
STOP WHILE YOU HAVE A CHANCE.
Is the book with the Wulfen and DA+GK smack down of the fenris system a novel?
I am on black Library and I see Wulfen and Curse of Wulfen as well as Warzone Fenris, Wolves of Fenris and Thunder from Fenris.
What is the order of things and who are good guys in these books?They look like some of them are in the OP/on torrents but I am too old and bad with technology to figure how to convert and put this stuff on my damn kinde
>>47747122
>>47747067
Well, they made the most popular army, also the most powerful. You'll see a ton of complaining about tau and eldar here, but from the experience at my flgs, it's the marine players running train on xenos players and new players.
>>47747103
Its 5 Guardsmen though, not 10.
What's a_funway to equip my Slaaneshi Lord, /tg/? The most useful option looks like a power fist, maybe with a claw if I want to sink some points into him (and an excuse to model him bare-fisted) but that doesn't really make much use of his great initiative. But a power sword seems so dull.
What music did the Emperor listen to?
My bet is orchestral and post-rock à la GY!BE
>>47747067
Nah, that's just an extremely cheesy Iron Hands build that involves RAW.
>>47747137
>You can't help but feel the rythym
What is really surprising is that Pert got his daemon world on the map.
>>47747171
No one really knows. Subdued classical music could be a good guess.
>>47747171
The Emperor listened to everything.
He's older than Jesus, mate.
>>47747171
exclusively to Electric Lights Orchestra cassetes
>>47747190
>Warpstorm Germanicus
>>47747206
The Emperor WAS Jesus
>>47747212
was he HYPE?
>>47746926
I'd say Orks, CSM, and Dark Eldar. Nids have Flyrants which makes them able to hang in a competitive meta. They arent top tier no matter how you build them, but they definitely arent as bad as Orks, CSM, and DE.
>>47747206
And was Jesus.
>>47747216
I'm not sure what to say now.
>>47747187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRv9wGf5pk
>>47747051
>>47746854
I gathered my Sapce Marines figurines. I had about 70-80 Space marines : 40 tactical marines (6 of them are not assembled), 10 devastator, 10 scouts (five melee, five normal), 5 assault, 5 terminator, an normal archivist, a chaplain with reactors on his back, the supermarine captain of the 2nd company (can't remember his name), a rhino, a vindicator, a whirlwing and a few other figurines.
I used to play casual games with my folks (they played orks and necrons) so I mainly bought figurines because they looked good, not because they were espacially effective.
Can I gather a decent army around 1500points among this figurines with the new rules ?
>>47747242
>the supermarine captain of the 2nd company
Cato Sicarius?
>>47747242
>supermarine
>>47747125
WarDK was a love letter to an era of warhammer that I was very familiar with. He was also partly responsible for the LotR SBG.
The only thing he was shit at was fantasy.
>>47747238
pump up da jam!
>>47746755
Thanks man. No these are the first two. I have 13 Scions and a Prime to do in this scheme. Gonna finish these two tonight, I'll use a real camera and up a pic or two in /wip/ later.
>>47747242
>Can I gather a decent army around 1500points among this figurines with the new rules ?
yes
>>47747072
This scene is all wrong but I think I can save it with a quick alternation. Space Marines should not be jobbed out just to put over Farsights suit.
>‘Your stance is defensive, yet not indicative of self-preservation,’ stated the warsuit. Before he could reply, Wailing Doom clattered between the giant’s jump engines. Its shoulder-mounted blaster whirred around, obliterating the Avatar of Khaine running in behind it. Its energy rifle never moved from Antaloch’s helm.
All better now.
>>47747257
Yes, that was this guy.
Pic is the figurines I gathered
>>47747282
Sorry it's late here. I meant ultramarines
Can anyone help an old man out. I just want to read my stories.
>>47747135
>>47746763
>Based Roundtree is trying to fix things
Is that right?
>Death from the Skies
>Angels of Death psychic powers
>Black Legion/Crimson Slaughter
>Ghazgull
>the new idiotic waac-catering bundles
>releasing new army books while existing armies languish in the trash
I wouldnt hold my breath on anything changing. Except new and exciting ways for GW to shoot themselves in the foot. He's been in charge over a year now. It's more of the same. Lip service facebook and discount bundles are shiny and all, but it doesnt mean jack shit. If any significant change was coming, the past 3-4 months of releases wouldnt have been utter trash. And pumping a new Deathwatch codex into the cancerous system that is 40k doesnt inspire hope.
Keep dreaming anon. GW is rotten at its core; the sickness permeates everything. The only way we'll ever see 40k as a 'good' game, is if a different company takes control.
>>47747190
Mendrengard is probably one of the more well known Daemon Worlds as it is also a formidable fortress and factory.
>>47747430
>He's been in charge over a year now.
Which means his changes haven't really had time to be implemented.
The start collecting boxes were his idea
Same with the knight combo kit
Also we have active community feedback and FAQ work now
He's still gotta do stuff with what was in the pipelines though.
But keep hating anyway, warmachine a shit.
>>47747446
I hate to see Perty's prices.
>>47747303
Could you precise ?
Who does Terminators better? Dark Angels or Grey Knights?
-A guy who wants to play Terminators
>>47747481
I'm sure he stays competitive with the likes of Temporia and Xana ll.
>>47747469
>start collecting was his idea
>Renegade was his idea
>"Oh the stuff that sucks that was released after the good stuff- those were the other guys idea."
You cant just create your own reality to support the view you want to be true. If he had a hand in stuff that came out in January, he had a hand in stuff that came out in May. I get that you are hopeful and want to believe positive change is coming, but cherry picking examples that supports your wishful thinking, while lying to yourself about examples that dont- come on bro.
>>47747547
GK. DA can't play pure Terminator without autolosing turn 1.
That said, Deathwing are kinda neat with their variety of options.
>>47746330
I have the opposite issue. I love coming up with color schemes but I'm bad at creating fluff. One of the best I've done is for my admech, purple metal plating, white robes.
>>47747469
I dont play Warmachine. I play Kill Team, Infinity, board games, and the occasional 1850 point match. But your retarded 'argument' coupled with 'warmachine a shit' says it all.
>>47747549
One can hope. Scoria can build a mean Dinobot.
>>47747549
I'm sure Scoria charges a premium price for a premium product.
>>47747596
>>47747601
>Scoriamind
>>47747596
>>47747601
Scoria shill pls go
>>47747596
Well anon, this is awkward.
>>47747566
How much does not being able to have storm shields hurt them? I'd wanna paint em up as Adeptus Custodes. I think they'd be sweet!
I'm I a huge faggot for enjoying some of those Warhammer High stories?
I want Vulkan to be my father-in-law fäm
SO I've just gotten back into 40k and chose F.E because I already have some battlesuits and I really like the idea of a small force jumping about shooting gattling guns.
I've heard that Tau are pure cancer now, and from reading this thread.
what can i have in my army without being a tryhard cheesy dickhead?
>>47747642
If you want Custodes, just wait a few months for FW to sell them for 30k. They'll have their own army list and everything.
>>47747430
It's a lot harder than you think for a CEO to implement changes to a company. Internal culture is a powerful thing, especially when things seem to be going well.
It's easy to mandate discount bundles. It's harder to implement changes on a constantly rolling, expensive and time-consuming creative process. The models alone begin design and production a long time before they ever hit the stores. Plus there's tie-in novels, long-term plans etc. All these things cost money to produce, and any changes cost money to implement, and all of it needs to make money when they launch.
These processes start years in advance of their release, so it may still be a long time before we see any creative input from Rountree filter into the product.
>>47747648
Just don't minmax your army with Crisis Suits or Riptides and you'll be OK.
>>47747626
But, Anon, he builds top quality Helldrakes this side of the Eye of Terror. You wouldn't want a poorly made Helldrake from some 3rd party daemon world would you?
>>47747638
It really is.
>>47747647
Yes and because you unironically post " fäm ", go back to /tv/,/b/, reddit or whatever hell hole you came from you cancerous faggot.
>>47747430
>>Black Legion/Crimson Slaughter
The issues with that lie in the CSM codex itself. Sure the formations aren't great, but the supplement isn't bad because of anything rountree has done, it's bad mostly because CSM are just shit.
>>Ghazgull
The over all problem with the orks is that nobody on the design team has a passion for them, nobody fights for them as it were, and as such the design team isn't really sure what to do with them, which is why the ork stuff suffers. Not because of rountree's actions
>>the new idiotic waac-catering bundles
One of which is with orks, one is terminators and land raiders. Neither of those are catered to WAAC. Sure they market them as powerful things to crush your opponent, but what should they do, say "this bundle is shit and you'll get curb stomped if you play it". Because that's smart marketing
>>47747430
Anon, you do realize rules and models take time, right?
Like alot of time. Work on the dark eldar dex began back in 5th or early 6th IIRC. It took something like 7 years. Granted a huge part of that was because it wasn't the main focus of GW, but still, it takes a while for stuff that is the focus to be made. A lot of this stuff probably began under kirby or very early into rountree's tenure.
>>47747648
Don't run Riptides. If you MUST, only use one. Ever. Avoid the ion accelerator.
Do not use Buffmander. If you like the look of BCs, good because they are not overpowered and you can spam them if you like.
Avoid spamming plasma. Consider running MP Crisis over Broadsides and run Broadsides with rail rifles instead. Use fusion blasters in moderation.
Don't minmax your Crisis teams. Each squad should have three, minimum. If you feel the need to especially handicap yourself, mix the roles of the squad members (hard mode: don't give them target locks).
That about covers it off the top of my head. You could also avoid markerlights or at least use so few of them that you really have to play very smart to get a lot of use out of them. I do all of this and people seem to be okay fighting against me in my casual meta.
Any sign of Vedros in digital form yet?
>>47747596
>>47747601
Wait, Scoria has a presence on Xana ll or Temporia?
Don't really know much about his character other than he is said to be a sinister Tech Apostate and apparently ruin one's day in a challenge rules wise.
>>47747755
yes
>>47747770
He's grand cogboy of Xana 2. He used to be that before the Heresy, but was thrown in jail, and during the Heresy he was busted out and retook his throne.
>>47747681
>unironically
>>47747779
Excellent. No more Derphammer Roll4+k!
>>47747680
>You wouldn't want a poorly made Helldrake from some 3rd party daemon world would you?
That makes me wonder if Abaddon is getting his money, slaves and plunder's worth in warmachines.
I read in one of the Forge World books that he was stockpiling Hel Talons and Hel Blades in the thousands and in the Chaos Codex it mentioned that the Iron Warriors gifted several Warmachines to his cause.
>>47747684
>The issues with that lie in the CSM codex itself
No, there's plenty of internal retardation and patent GW design flaw just within the supplements.
>no detachments
>no formations for Nurgle, Slaanesh, or Tzeentch
>Crimson Slaughter mega-formation that's over 2000 points naked
>Possessed in everything without any particularly good benefits for them
>Kranon being made illegal despite initially being a legally, intended build
What is the Emperor's favorite meme?
>>47747161
>>47747161
>>47747161
A-anyone? If need be I'm willing to cave and run him as a muscle wizard-lite Sorcerer. I just want my modelling project to be slightly more useful than a shelf dust collector.
>>47747865
Sorry friend, I'd help if I knew jack shit about Chaos.
>>47747677
>>47747747
saved.
Thanks guys
>>47747840
He is but there is no return policy. Remember that scene from South Park with the cable company? Yeah that's what it's like to deal with the Dark Mechanicus. Want the really good stuff like Kai Guns? You better play along.
>stockpiling in the thousands
Sweet Lord above, Abby, you're going to go broke that way.
>>47747888
but you worship khorne
How much stuff do CSM need to bring them up to speed, rules and models-wise?
>>47747865
Run him as an unmarked sorcerer with a familiar.
The only Chaos Lord worth a damn is a cheap Juggerlord with the axe. Tzeentch disclords stacking Crimson Slaughter relics used to be fun, but the FAQ's put paid to that despite it clearly being the RaI.
Does anyone have a scan of the endless tide detachment from the updated siege of vraks book?
I swear I've looked all over the internet but that book is literally nowhere to be found.
If you have a link feel free to call me a retard and link it, I'd be super happy. (Yeah I checked the sticky)
>>47747921
Decurion, better rules (The random rolling is shit), new miniatures for havocs and marines/cult troops.
>>47747921
Model wise? They need a new, generic plastic Chaos Space Marine kit, new cult marine kits (especially for the non-Berzkerers), and a whole gaggle of new character models.
Rule wise? They need some sort of legion/warband tactics, they need across the board unit buffs or cost reductions, and they need GW to stop pairing shit with crippling downsides.
>>47747921
more dinobots
Are astropaths the most fucked guys in the imperium?
>send your commander a message
>experience incredible, soul-crushing, agonizing pain
>get eaten by daemon
>>47747684
No, no. I wont argue that the CSM codex isnt a steaming pile of shit, but thats not the problem with BL/CS.
The formations in those supplements were released right alongside AoD. Take a look at the difference in the formation bonuses. The lack of effort, creativity, or just giving a fuck at all is plain to see in BL/CS formations. Not a single one of them is good. Compare the Sorcerer formation to the Libby Enclave. It's baffling that they put it to print.
>>47747853
4U. He liked it so much he planned to bring down the pilots and made legions of guys genetically altered to be big.
>>47747900
>Sweet Lord above, Abby, you're going to go broke that way
Maybe he has a good line of credit?
Alternatively, that might explain why there have only been 13 major Black Crusades so far.
He probably spends the time in-between crusades heckling with Tech Apostates, Daemon Scribes and Plague Bearers about the bill.
>>47748017
Imperial psykers in general just have shit lives. In fact astropaths may get it slightly better because they are at least tolerated if only out of necessity.
>>47747921
A few new kits; a complete overhaul from the ground up for rules.
But why do that when you can release SM psychic powers, Death from the Skies, and another! SM book: Codex Deathwatch! Buy the new shinies.
>>47747935
Mm. I thought so... Ah well, I suppose I can live with it for now. I'll have to magnetize a sword at his belt or something to indicate his choice of force weapon. Here's hoping the CSM updateit's real this time, r-right?hands over some buffs.
>>47748017
They don't always get eaten by daemons. They're soul bound for a reason.
>>47748051
I hate to see those bills.
>>47748080
Such is business. Anyone expecting different is pretty fucking naive.
>>47747976
Fluffwise, what would be the ideal heavy weapon for a new CSM kit? Autocannon?
>>47746185
What causes that? Not the Psyk-Out Grenades.
>>47748099
>I hate to see those bills.
Can't be any worse than the power bill for the Imperial Palace.
>>47748124
Yeah those untold quintillions of dead psykers must have piled up quite a sum by now.
>>47748051
I bet it all costs him an arm and an arm.
He's like some beleaguered middle manager whose bosses just meet clients and play golf, and dump all the real work on him. No wonder he hasn't had time to learn how to use the Talon properly.
>>47748220
Well as a servant of all four chaos gods this was already his life.
>>47748220
>I bet it all costs him an arm and an arm.
Holy shit
>>47748220
>I bet it all costs him an arm and an arm.
Fucking SAVAGE.
>>47748027
formations can be all over the place. Even within AoD, you get wtf stupid powerful and meh.
Been looking at Mont'ka because I'm starting with IG, and man, so close but so far.
The detachment could be great if they shaved 1 from every number greater than 2 in the requirements for the core choices. It that close to making the IG seem like something actually good.
On a related note, still think that a Deldar could be fixed with a powerful enough supplement with detachments and such, but it would have to be really good.
I'VE DONE IT BOYZ. IZ A MEK NOW, AN DIS IS MY FIRST KONVERZUN. Iz made a Kustom Mega 'Ammer for my boss.
WITNESS ME SPACE 0DIN
>>47748381
>Gun on a stick
I love it
>>47748333
Formations are cancer and have driven a lot of vets from the playerbase - as well as fostering a waac mentality in the retards that remain.
>>47748390
it's great
>>47748421
I have to disagree.
While some of them are causing lots of problems, that can be said of most things in the game. There are problem psykic powers, problem monsterous creatures, problem weapon options, etc etc.
Formations open up a design space that allows for interesting and potentially flavorful options, and is a way to create rules and feel for subfactions without having to give each one there own codex, which would clearly be overkill for many of them.
Formations don't really do anything to foster a waac mentality, the waac mentality seeks to abuse every aspect of the game to their end, they use formations simply because they are another aspect of the game.
>>47748513
>Formations open up a design space that allows for interesting and potentially flavorful options, and is a way to create rules and feel for subfactions without having to give each one there own codex, which would clearly be overkill for many of them.
>interesting and potentially flavorful options
>requires: 30 marines, 15 scouts, 28 tech marines, and 10 Libbies
I'm making stuff up of course, but seeing and using that all the time isn't interesting.
>>47748144
That is probably why they get them in bulk. Can't go wrong with the Black Ship discount service.
>>47745183
any S4+ stuff will be enough; AP4 would be nice.
Take care about Drone Net VX1-0, as they have Jink
>>47748592
>all the time
you don't have to use formations all the time.
If you are using the same ones all the time, that's because you're restricting yourself to only taking what you see as the most powerful.
if there were no formations, and you wanted to only take the most powerful options, you'd still take the same units all the time.
There has been a flaw in the execution of this design element in that some formations are massively more powerful than other options, but that's an execution flaw and that can happen with anything, and has. It's not a problem with the concept of formations.
>>47745183
Deep Striking Assault Terminators
>>47747662
I'm not sure if my painting/wallet game us up for forgeworld models yet. I've only messed with plastic kits so far. I'm scared :(
>>47748706
Then save up like mad.
Or play Auric Patricians and have a Gold Space Marine army.
>>47748731
>>47748706
Or Silver Guard.
>>47748592
>I'm making stuff up of course
We know. It's not exactly the greatest argument, but, to be fair, your position is essentially indefensible.
>>47747865
Generally, Chaos lords that aren't juggerlords are shit, but a Slaaneshi Lord with LC+PF on a bike with a Mark of Slaanesh biker squad with Icon of excess is pretty alright.
>>47749053
Silver Guard are nowhere near as pimpin as the Auric Patricians.
3rd to 7th crew here. Just played a few more 1k matches to get back into things. I now learn that Tyhpus is a motherfucker and nurgle rot is no fun for Guardsmen. Also Weapon Virus on overwatch is a fucking bitch. I need to seriously invest a few points in Relic Plating
>>47748592
Example of a good formation:
>Jump Pack Captain
>3-5 Units of Assault Marines or Assault Terminators
>Units from this formation may Deep Strike at the start of any friendly game turn. They may Assault on the turn they enter the battlefield, but if they do so, overwatch shots are taken against them at full BS for that turn.
Example of a bad formation:
>6 Wraithknights
>Units from this formation may choose to fire their weapons as a 5" Large Blast or Template with the same statline.
