Why has the Inquisition not shit down their throats yet?
How do they keep getting away with it?
Because that's what the new one is about.
Because "shitting down the throat" of a group of 50 gorillian 8 foot tall murderhobos is easier said than done, and there are much more constructive avenues to use that energy on
>>47696609
Non-/tg/ anon here. What are "murderhobos"?
>>47697233
player characters / protagonists in various /tg/ activities
coined by killing lot of stuff and usually having no permanent residence
>>47697233
Heroes.
They have no real home, sleep outdoors and generally go from place to place killing people.
Relic's shitty writing.
>>47697233
>>47697251
>>47697255
Instead of saying "lurk moar" /tg/ was kind yet again. Keep it up /tg/ you're the best board. ^_^
they exterminatus'd their entire planet. twice
what more do you want?
>>47697373
Lurk moar
>>47696507
Because them being compulsive kleptomaniacs is more of a meme than anything. At worst, they're grave robbers which, really, isn't that unusual in the Imperium.
>>47696507
Being a space marine chapter and having stopped multiple assaults by Chaos, Xenos and the like can get you a lot of brownie points with the less braindead inquisitors.
Plus, iti s a huge hassle getting rid of an entire space marine chapter. You need a significant force to get to them and to take them out.Who are you going to get? Most other space marine chapters will want a lot of solid proof before going against brother marines,and it is usually not a good idea to tell guardsmen than the Angels of the Emperor's Fury are corrupted and that they should go slay them. Then you also need to commandeer Navy resources to match the Chapter fleet...
At some point, even if you can do it, the forces required start being pretty significant, and remember, the Imperium is always under some sort of threat. At the same time in the same sector, you may have several worlds with mass mutant rebellions, , chaos agents fomenting unrest on other planets, a likely genestaler infestation yet elsewhere, a "minor" orc WAAAGH! and several hotspots of pirate activity.
Are you really sure you want to weaken the Imperium on any of these fronts in order to purge a Space Marine chapter that is acting dodgy?
>>47697937
>>47697891
>more of a meme than anything
This one has pretty solid roots, since most of their equipment ocmes from other sources outside their own
>>47696507
Because the Inquisition agrees with them. How do you think they got Grey Knight assistance in the first place?
>>47697998
They doesn't mean the Blood Ravens stole them. They easily could have found them, or be gifts.
Both are much more likely than theft, considering the rather high profile source of some of the relics.
>>47698030
Except sometimes the blood ravens explicitly say that they acquired the items through official exchanges that the other party is completely unaware of.
No one's going to openly state anything, as usual, but it's not that far fetched to think about it in either way.
>>47697918
Don't forget the other problem. Barring rivalries, Muhreen chapters back each other over the rest of the Imperium. The Space Wolves have been allowed to get away with a ton of shit because the other First Founding chapters will back them over the =][= on principle, up until the Wulfen thing finally fucking tore it. Not only is purging Marines a logistical clusterfuck, it's a political one too.Except the chapters that literally no one likes for whatever reason, like the Crimson Slaughter or the Soul Drinkers, but even with as much shit as the BRs get from other chapters for being that annoying kid who always wants to run with the grownups, they aren't *that* bad.
>>47696507
Because probably the Black Templars would swoop in to face the Inquisition on there bullshit so we dont get another "ork snipers" situation again
Because "the Inquisition" is not a hive mind, and for every inquisitor you can piss off there's another ten that don't fucking care, a couple that will protect you and probably a guy actively helping you in eliminating the poor sod hating you because of political reasons.
>>47698090
Black Templars are not that anit-inquisition, grimaldus may be but he's not the chapter and the chapter isnt "bro" enough to go around helping a random chapter, specially one that uses witches like the Blood Ravens.
>>47698060
The guys at Relic said that it was their way of shoehorning references. Don't take them seriously.
>>47698156
Black Templar's seemed bro enough to the remaining Celestial Lions giving them all that relic war gear and shit
>>47697373
faggot
>>47698190
Don't want to sound like That Guy but I'd really appreciate a source on such a claim. Not that it would really change how things are stated in the canon sources.
>>47698030
They have Custodes armor, Fluff-wise that shit was made by the emperor and and is gene-locked so only him and other Custodes are allowed to use it, even touching it is a death sentance in most cases.
>>47698213
Literally because Grimaldus requested it and vouched for them.
>>47697373
Gimme a kiss faggot
>>47697373
>using emoticons
literally kill yourself
>>47698213
Celestial Lions are also descended from Dorn like the Templars so they're closer.
>>47698005
Good point.
>>47698030
They also SOMEHOW got their hands on FORGEBREAKER,DAEMON PRIMARCH PERTURABO'S HAMMER.
>>47698902
>They have Custodes armor
Probably recovered from a corpse in the ruins of Prospero
>is gene-locked so only him and other Custodes are allowed to use it,
Source?
>>47698060
>>47700447
>>47698902
>Taking off-handed references in a video game as absolute canon
>>47697373
>^_^
I cannot fathom what it must be like to be such a ginormous faglord
>>47702108
The Blood Ravens originate from that video game fagtron
>thinking that the Imperium won't actually go out of their way to destroy a Space Marine chapter
They have an entire force dedicated to exactly that. If the High Lords of Terra wanted them dead, they'd send the Minotaurs after them.
But the Blud Rehvens did clean themselves up.
Forces involved in Kronus were absolved after confirming Kyras was corrupted, and that Thule, the commander on the ground, was free of taint and was merely obeying Kyras' orders.
Forces involved in Kaurava were destroyed. Nothing to absolve or purge.
Tainted BR elements were destroyed by loyalist BR elements, including basically every layer of command they had. That Hereticus Inquisitor from Retribution then confirmed the reports and announced the BRs were squeaky clean.
>"gifts" they got chapters that don't remember ever giving anything
Remember that the BRs are obsessed with recording their history. The chapters they got stuff from considered those exchanges beneath notice.
>>47697373
yep, and then you had to go and ruin it with your emoticons.
Lurk moar faggot.
>>47696507
Because they have helped the inquisition plenty of times, have a leader that they trust and know wont succumb to darkness.
They also have a lot of friends in high places, something other chapters dont have because of pride and other stuff.
>>47697985
Fucking hell
>>47699849
This, the Templars would sneer down upon a chapter that is mysterious of origin, kleptomaniac, and most of all, specializes in witches.
>>47698255
DoW lore, like 40k in-universe, is filled with ambiguities, mysteries, and urban legends that will send you to a dead end if you try to track the original source.
For instance, just about every 40k fan site tells you that Stubbs won Kaurava, but good luck finding any official source confirming that.
>>47702108
>prefering boring, non-binding convention over fun but justified lunacy
pls anon
>>47698090
The Black Templars fucking hate the Blood Ravens, partly because of the natural psyker hate, but mostly because the Ravens deliberately piss them off at every opportunity after one of them tried to attack one of their librarians commanding a company
>>47696507
Because there's a plan for the Blood Ravens. The greatest plan ever devised, something that the forces of Chaos would never see coming. Their kleptomania will be used to do the unthinkable, take the untakable.
And all it takes is for them to join their ancestor legion, the Thousand Sons.
The Blood Ravens joining Chaos will cause them to do what they normally do, amplified thousand-fold. You see, they will take the skulls from the Skull Throne. They will take the greatest, most horrible concoctions Nurgle ever devised. They will take the loudest instruments, the most intoxicating drugs, and the lewdest pornography from Slaanesh. They will take the most ingenious plans from Tzeench before they can be put into motion, before they can be foiled to further other ingenious plans.
The fallen Blood Ravens will steal Chaos from the Chaos Gods.
>>47696507
What, does "nuking two planets in their home sector" not count as "shit down their throats"?
Also Angelos is buddy-buddy with the Inquisition.
>>47702299
They did not, but the video game is what fleshed them out and gave them a canon.
They were a random example colour scheme before DoW.
>>47696507
Relic Entertainment wank.
>>47706240
They're also bros with the Ultramarines, Salamanders and a few others, which boosts their credibility.
Being overtly disliked by the DA probably helps, too.
>>47697233
Player characters that usually revert to murder instead of you know.. anything else?
>Oh the guard says we cant enter the palace? Better kill all the guards
>The trader refuses to trade his wares with me? Better murder him
>>47696507
They are a really tough Chapter that has fought multiple threats for the Imperium (a couple of squads saved an entire sub-sector. Also they purged their Chapter of the heretics within it.
I also believe that the Inquisition knows the Blood Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons but keep it secret from the wider Imperium.
>>47705946
Could the Blood Ravens save Isha?
>>47707497
They could be gifted her
>>47697937
I was looking I was but i mean I'm just a fucking elf, what could i do to stop him? wait what do you mean I'm called eldar in this setting? heh whats with the laser pointers?
>>47708185
kys
>>47707497
... that's not actually that bad of an idea, if nothing else, she'd be a more sure solution to the Big E's condition than hoping that Cypher is actually a goodie working towards the Starchild Prophesy (and that the prophesy is accurate)
>>47698190
>>47698255
This has always been how I took it anyway. Some descriptions do make a point of the Blood Ravens having the item when they shouldn't, and there's more than one mention of them outright looting the deadremember how both the Blood Ravens and Grey Knights were in Winter Assault?, but ultimately, stuff like >>47698902 and >>47700447 is there for the same reason that Adrastia has Barbarisater, Freddie Mercury has Yarrick's old chainsword as well as Sturnn and Alexander's gear, and so on.
Frankly I'm almost surprised they didn't include God-Splitter as an item drop too.
>>47702484
>Forces involved in Kaurava were destroyed. Nothing to absolve or purge.
Not all of them. And regardless of whether any Blood Ravens survived, if the Guard had won as is so often claimed, an investigation - further investigation - of the already-suspect Chapter whose Marines had yet again openly fought against other Imperial forces in dubious circumstances would have been a logical outcome. Though who can say really, with how the IG campaign handled their side of that conflict.
Of course, if a non-Imperial faction beat the Blood Ravens, it could have taken place before they got a chance to butt heads with the Guard, keeping things nice and clean (for the Blood Ravens at least - IG vs SoB was a given). But Chaos Rising kind of put paid to that idea, even if it still didn't say who won.
Why don't the blood ravens go steal all the shit that trashy the incontinent has?
>>47708725
Blood Ravens are already on Nurgles shit list for killing a greater daemon plus Ol"Gabe could use this to make Macha want him even more
>>47705946
>Blood Ravens steal all the grimdark in 40k.
>The setting becomes a space opera.
>>47697373
See this /tg/? This is what you get for being helpful. Weeb emoticons.
>>47697373
>^_^
>>47708758
Probably doesn't help matters that Kyras cucked Nurgle with Khorne
>>47708725
Then after they can return her to the elder and have good relations with them again.
>>47708839
>"This prison cannot hold me forever. It is cracked and weakened, and its architect now feasts on Nurgle's rotted fruit. Why yes, perhaps I will have Kyras free me from the bonds he forged himself."
>"Though it was a simpler, weaker voice that illuminated me during my centuries upon the Judgment of Carrion... it was Khorne's messenger who showed me the true path of freedom from our pathetic corpse Emperor."
>>47705393
This too, I think there was an incident actually where they had a mini void war: both battle barges exchanged fire at each other, they fucking shot at each other lmfao
>>47709580
Not to mention that the Ravens won, nicked a power fist off them, and then named it "The Templar's Folly", which would REALLY piss them off
>>47709580
>>47709640
>Gauntlet of the Templar
>The Black Templars Space Marine’s legendary hatred of psykers at times extends to the Blood Ravens. Legend has it, this animosity came to a head in M36 when a Templar crusade engaged a strike cruiser of the 5th Company – led by a Commander and Librarian. Some say this power fist was named specifically later to goad the Templars.
>>47709664
I love the Templars for how angry they are as it is hilarious, but I find myself liking them less and less, joining forces with fucking heretics in the beast series, and now losing to the magpies...
>>47705946
True enough, Blood kender kleptomancy is pretty close to slaaneshian levels. Obsessing over excess and all that.
Wouldn't put it beyond them to have "procured" the squats which just accidentally fell into their pockets.
>>47709709
To be fair, Magpies are ideal anti marine combatants.
Their divination based strategy is the perfect counter to elite strike forces
>>47709749
Thing is, they don't even obsess about it, like Trazyn does, they just brazenly do it with zero fucks given.
>>47708909
>Implying the Blood Ravens won't be "gifted" the entire Eldar race by Isha, thus clearing out the Webway for use by humanity
>>47709766
Or they just do it unconciusly. It just happens around them. Relics just happen to find their way in their armoury even though none of the marines seem to be actively collecting them.
Their very own magpie waaagh! field
>>47709912
>waagh field turns seemingly nonfunctional items into working weapons
>Magpie field turns seemingly innocuous items into precious relics
>>47697918
Two words: Soul Drinkers.
Enough said.
>>47696507
Even if they were so inclined, Ork snipers aren't easy to pull off in a relatively peaceful system, and they have enough allies among the ]I[, Guard and fellow marines that overt attacks would be plain stupid
>>47697373
Time to lurk more
Or kill yourself
>>47697373
Is this /a/ pulling a false flag to prevent spoonfeeding?because it's working
>>47696507
Because the Inquisition doesn't actually just kill everybody they come across.
>>47709709
>joining forces with fucking heretics in the beast series
>Caring about recent fluff
That was terrible mistake number one
>>47710200
>empty tin can shows up in the armory
>turns into a master crafted tin can of peaches dating back to the great crusade that was opened by The Emperor when he got the munchies.
>it's opened lid is sharp enough to cut through the toughest armor.
Doesnt the Blood Ravens literally have a banner from another chapter which they painted their own colours over ?
>>47714308
http://dow.wikia.com/wiki/Banner_of_Ithaka
>>47714601
>>47714308
>Once raised high by brothers of the Iron Snakes, this ornate standard celebrated the glory of planet Ithaka and its mighty aquatic wyrms. The standard was lost to the Iron Snakes during a campaign against the Dark Eldar and later recovered by the Blood Ravens. Its livery was then changed to incorporate that chapter's heraldry.
>>47697373
LURK MOAR
>>47714634
>Iron Snakes
>mfw
>>47696507
The Inquisition sent an entire exterminatus fleet to destroy the whole subsector. Not just the Blood Ravens, *the whole subsector.*
If that's not "shitting down their throats" then I don't know what is.
>>47696507
Because you can't kill off le funny meme chapter.
>>47696507
It's simple; there's any number of monsterous assholes and problems waiting to happen in the Imperium of Man, and everyone is aware of it.
They are also aware that the best way to deal with them is to keep throwing them at the Imperium's endless threats until they all die so none of the resources they represent is fully wasted.
If were on the topic of Dawn of War
When is this magnificent bastard coming back?
>>47716405
Boreale is the only character from Soulstorm that Relic have been willing to even mention, and likely just because he's a Blood Raven.
Unless you count that blog post on the old DoW2 community site which said many of the Blood Ravens' Kauravan losses were caused byCarron.
>>47718788
boreale should have been the ancient
>>47709756
Yeah true, and I guess they can't be mary sues, them joining forces with the iron warriors pisses me off more, templars are supposed to be zealous as all fuck, joining forces with heretics not to mention ones you have a hatred for should be a huge no no for them, even if magneric had lascannons pointed at him, I would have rather seen him die trying to kill them all than fucking negotiate and join forces, I understand why and how everything happened I just don't like it because yknow, heresy.
>>47713440
I know, I just keep hoping BL will shit out something that isn't complete crap, I actually liked the first book in the series and the second and third were alright, haven't read past that though, the first book was fucking heroic as hell, the imperial fists getting dicked over by literally everyone and everything to the point where they were forced into extinction and having them go out with a fucking bang, the sons of dorn are kick face as fuck, the astral knights had a similar ending.
>>47718814
>should have been the Ancient AND the Force Commander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKpoZY_wS8s
>>47718914
>have a hatred for
let me reiterate that to "have a vengeful hatred for" since yknow templars hate all heretics
>>47696507
They steal the Warrants of Investigation and other paperwork that would lead to getting their throats shit down.
>>47697373
Jesus, just kill yourself and your family.
>>47718944
>Inquisition finally get so pissed off that an assassin gets sent off the record
>it immediately gets painted red and sent back
>Inquisition stops trying
>>47697985
If you understand this image, then you are in too deep
It's pretty obvious they don't steal anything. They forge "gifts" and make up stories of the exchange to legitimize their past to outsiders, of which they are unaware.
Few are going to know what they are saying is bullshit, and even that is better than "we just don't know," considering the emphasis Astartes place on their past and the obvious suspicion aroused by a chapter having no idea of its roots.
>>47721130
>>47696609
i might be retarded, but I was about to ask you how many is 50 gorillian.
i now realize he means they look like gorillas.
my mind has failed me.
>>47721130
Unless Magnus himself gave it to the Ravens as an apology present for being an absentee father, there is absolutely no way they didn't steal this.
>>47710200
Together they fight grim dark!
>>47696609
there is only 1 million SMs, give or take,
>>47696507
but the real answer is the the inquisition has no authority over them, at all.
They are both organizations outside the law, and unlike pretty much everyone else, Space Marines are not technically imperial citizens, and the inquisitorial mandate only extends to those.
Any kind of action they take against them is more of a coercion and power play, that always needs to be balanced against how much they would anger the adeptus astartes as a whole.
Extermination of the flame falcons?
No problem, they all exhibited absolute signs of warp mutation, even if they might have been benign, or even emperor willed, that´s what the legion of the damned is for.
Anything less egregious is a surefire way to in the least ruin your chances of getting them to work with you or anyone you associate with for a long time, and at worst could lead to some "accidents", and by "accidents" I mean even military raids on inquisition installations and wholesale slaughter, of which no one can know, or otherwise the inquisition´s pretense to absolute authority woud be perdu.
>>47709756
>Their divination based strategy is the perfect counter to elite strike forces
Is that why eldar never lose to marines either?
>>47721654
Chaos Rising corruption items are pretty much all battlefield loot they grabbed and, if not going crazy, should be put in a very well sealed vault.
>>47721334
>Stolenpants.jpg
I guess we know why
>>47721058
>A fine gift from the Vindicare Temple, given in honor of the Kalurvia Incident.
I think my favorite DOW 2 item description is Krakentooth though.
It's named in honor of an assault marine that screamed a payer and jumped directly into a Carnfix mouth, dying instantly.
>>47721774
Marines expect that shit from Eldar and take pains to avoid it/counter it.
You don't expect to dewarp and find out 5 thunderhawks have already deployed techmarines to steal your space hubcaps
>>47697373
look at this newfag trying hard to fit in
>>47721793
I love the fact that the description states that he did absolutely nothing to hurt it
>>47696507
There's like less than 100 Blood Ravens left by the end of Retribution. There are plenty of Chapters that hate their guts and they've had a senior Librarian, several Captains and Sergeants and their fucking Chapter Master openly turn heretical. Their homeworlds are daemon and xenos infested shitholes, at least the ones they didn't blow up, and they won't stop stealing peoples Holy Relics. So I have no idea, Adrastia and the fleet should have wiped the entire system.
But Dawn of War makes GW money so they'll stick around
>>47716405
Hopefully never. Probably the worst Imperial Officer in any of the games.
>>47697373
What did he mean by this?
>>47722708
>There's like less than 100 Blood Ravens left by the end of Retribution.
Depends on whether you mean right after the final battle, or after the outro timeskip.
>"We have rebuilt, and once more are great."
>several Captains
It's probable enough that the captains of the companies loyal to Kyras turned with him, but throughout the series we never actually saw any other than the ones who were major characters, all of whom remained loyal (to Emps, not Kyras):
- Angelos obviously fought against Kyrasand got stomped, then survived to take command of the entire Chapter (as well as all the credit for beating Kyras, presumably).
- Thule was nidded in the first DoW2 campaign, leaving the 4th Company leaderless. In Chaos Rising he was literally incorruptible, and in Retribution he was still loyal despite only appearing as a level 1 boss fight for Steve Blum the Inheritor.
- Boreale was ded, and whether he'd been replaced yet is unknown, as is what happened to the captains of the four other companies he led in Kaurava - or if they were even there.
- Diomedes took some serious convincing but ultimately led the loyalists that did all the work to topple Kyras, afterwards purging and reforming the Chapter with Angelos.
So other than the 3rd and 4th Companies and the Honour Guard, all the current Blood Raven captains were, and are, completely unaccounted for. Maybe they followed Kyras, or refused and were either killed or forced into hiding, in any combination. Maybe Kaurava wasn't the only recent operation that went south for the Blood Ravens, and DoW2 featured Thule, Angelos, and Diomedes exclusively because those three were the only captains still alive by then ("The Chapter cannot endure in its weakened and misguided state" indeed).
As it is, you're free to make up your own captain to fill one of the 8 blank spaces and decide for yourself what part he played in the whole thing.
>>47696507
Because they got rid of all the heretics in their chapter in Retribution
>>47725418
anyone thinks that commander hairgel will return in DoW 3?
>>47725537
Probably.
They need new captains after all, and we know he was loyal enough in 2 to make Kyras' shit list.
I hope tarkus gets Captain as well
>>47725939
>dow 3
>geting mid game
>shit got real with a fuck huge ork assault
>fightem off
>outta nowher chaos assault
>hold the line brother
>5 min in, big old wave of chaos fucks incoming
>droppod falls on their heads
>the hairetic returns, with termies
