Can we have a good ol' fashioned Games Workshop hate thread?
Share stories from times in store, annoying players and staff members, your problems with how the place is run, your thoughts on the drop in quality in all aspects of their games, how you took out several loans to fund your hobby then had your legs broken by debt collectors before you decided to quit.
Games Workshop apologists not welcome.
>>47693884
Fuck off.
>>47693913
Bad day anon? Replying is optional you know.
>>47693884
Fuck off.
>>47693913
>>47693937
Austismo at maximum
I no longer care enough to hate them.
Have you tried playing xwing instead?
>>47694762
Nah, I can't really see the appeal of it.
>>47694762
I've jumped over to Dropzone Commander, and am excited for the Dropfleet Commander ame interaction
>>47694762
I still like 40k but only just play the vidya and RPGs.
Infinity is a pretty fun war game.
>>47693884
Never had a problem with GW, except for their pricing, but I'm not useless cunt and have a job so I can afford luxuries like overpriced games.
at this point i just paint
>>47694762
I like the larger scale of Armada for my space games.
>>47695529
"The problem is your all just poor!"
lol
>>47694961
Love Infinity.
>>47695588
Love Armada.
>>47693884
My Cauldron of blood came with a 25mm for the hag, I called Customer Support and they suggested I buy a 20 pack of 20mm. It was like $30.
>>47695529
Useless cunt detected.
The sales people at the local GW are relentless and the pricing is bull compared to most other miniature games.
If I had discovered it now rather than at the age of 10 I probably would have started straight into battletech and saved my parents hundreds.
>>47696137
I had a similar problem with a box of pathfinders I bought.
Only came with 9 bases and there was meant to be 10.
Called up customer support but they were actually pretty chill and sent me 10 new 25mm bases. So now I got a 9 extra bases which I'm pretty happy about.
My main gripe with GW though other than their prices would be their staff at their stores. Once you walk in they do not leave your side incessantly talking. Fuck man just let me look around for a bit, and if I need help I'll ask for it.
>>47694929
This looks really sweet.
Still would be a pain to get it to Russia, but sweet nevertheless.
Care to provide a small comparison with wh40k?
>>47693884
Since I like 40K but hate GW, can anyone give me suggestions of some of the best new-ish and alive tabletop wargames?
I would be up for trying other things, but price, fun, balance, learning curve and whatnot are hard to judge without giving them a try (which is hard when everyone around me only plays X-Wing and 40K)
>>47693884
Hate GW but I still like their games, even if they're not in the best shape. I kind of just feels pity for them now though, they're running themselves into the ground and it's not good for the players, investors or people who work there. The only people who are going to benefit are the few carpet baggers at the top of the structure who'll make a quick turnover when it starts to hit the serious economic problems we can all see in the future.
>>47696137
>My Cauldron of blood came with a 25mm for the hag, I called Customer Support and they suggested I buy a 20 pack of 20mm. It was like $30.
Pretty sure that is a faulty item in most countries. You should have been more persistent.
>>47694929
BASED
>>47697840
You do realize they have been turning all of that around since the new CEO came in right?
>>47698625
They have to an extent but I fear it may be too late since...
1. Fantasy is dead and buried and AoS is a lost cause. It's going to take them so much more effort to correct and change AoS (if it can even be done) than it would have taken to just show Fantasy some love.
2. Rowntree may right the ship but is he really challenging those at the top who caused it to nearly sink? 40K still seems to be moving closer to AoS than away from it. All the old talent at the art/design/writing studios have left.
3. The above two have caused an opening for their competitors that I doubt they'll ever be able to seal again, this is good for us customers though.
>>47696324
They're probably super lonely and are overjoyed to see another adult who might not not be a drooling retard.
>>47698724
Could be this, at my local GW it's a pain in the fucking arse getting hold of them, I only go in to buy something and they're too busy looking after a starter game, painting tutorial or whatever to serve me within 5 minutes. Moral of the story GW have more than 1 person in the store. It must be fucking horrible working for them.
I went into GW once to paint my ork army when I was young (about 15) and dad left me there for a Saturday cus that was the cool thing to do.
So anyway I drew all these massive swastikas on my captured Imperial guard ork tanks and was
had a ten minutes chat with one of the guys who worked there on why that was bad and the nazis where bad.
And ended with me saying "I think the nazis would of liked Warhammer" and him looking like pic related.
There where other times my austims came out to play like the time I called a guy who had "love wins" pin a pimp.
>>47693884
>mostly just buy models because i like painting and customizing things
>played 40k as a kid
>gw doesn't give shit for love for the factions i would buy models for now that i quit
>just use a bunch of old shit i bought and bitz lots from ebay
i dont hate them, but they clearly dont cater to the things i want anymore, and dont end up with my money because of it
>>47695529
Games Workshop core demographic, ladies and gents: people with more money than sense. Or taste for that matter.
Games Workshop has done literally nothing wrong
>>47693884
>Bristol GW in the early 90s
>be about 14 or 15 back then
>be browsing with friend
>guy who invented the Howling Griffons SMurf chapter working there, bullet-headed bloke with a flattop
>some other redshirt cunt looking like a metaller who'd spent last night in a squat, had a northern accent and swore a lot
>they're both playing 40k
>completely absorbed in their game
>me and friend at counter, both holding boxed sets we want to buy
>waiting for them to notice us
>literally there for 5 minutes
>start laughing because it's so ridiculous
>flattop finally looks up and sighs testilly, pissed off at our interuption
>strides theatrically over the counter
>stuffs our boxes into bags, takes our money
>glaring at us the whole time, no attempt to make conversation
>strides back over to the gaming table to resume his game
Always used to make me laugh when I'd see this guy in WD, smiling merrily in his photo and banging on about his enthusiasm for the hobby.
>>47696114
>your
This is why you don't have a good job, anon
>>47693884
>Can we have a good ol' fashioned Games Workshop hate thread?
Shit man, It's been too many years since I bought a GW item to really care anymore. There's lots of other games around these days - play some Malifaux, Infinity, Warmahordes or Kings of War.
I don't get to play any of those, these days anon - go and live vicariously for me.
>>47697266
Played a couple quick games of dead zone are my lgs recently. Quick and fun skirmish, and since it's made by a bunch of ex GW folks you can use your 40k minis just fine
Is it just me or is tabletop gaming and certainly wargaming bigger than ever.
Ten years ago it seemed like GW was 90% of the market.
I grew up playing GW games in the 1990s. We loved and played them all but especially the specialist game lines the bastards gutted. Necromunda, Blood Bowl, Gorka Morka, Man O War, Mordheim, Space Hulk, Dark Future, etc we played and loved them all.
I hate the featherweight all plastic models easily knocked over and broken which are now overly ornate.
>>47699194
ETA: But killing off Specialist games wasn't their darkest deed. Not even their shame less price gouging. No. When the destroyed the Old World and WFB with it. That was the final straw.
>>47698782
>"I think the nazis would of liked Warhammer"
It's in poor taste, but it's also true.
>>47699007
Well the guy he was replying to forgot an indefinite article, so fuck you.
>>47699247
End Times was full retard. I could hardly believe that shit was even real, it was so absurd.
>>47699175
GW had a stranglehold on the market 15 years ago. Since then it's continual fuckups have allowed a lot of new games to gain strong footholds.
>>47693884
>your thoughts on the drop in quality in all aspects of their games
I used to hate it but then I realized I could just ignore new art, fluff and models and stick to the RPGs. Lack of new art is a shame sometimes but it's better than the alternative.
>>47699304
Yep, Infinity, Armada and Warmachine are now huge in my LGS.
We still have 2 40k players, but they mostly hang out in the corner and talk, I've never seen them play a game to completion.
>>47693884
About 15 years ago, a GW employee tried to convince me White Scars could take Terminators on bikes so I would buy both kits and convert them.
I was 11.
>>47699650
Hahaha what a bastard
>>47699194
>Hating detailed plastic.
I can understand the price increase getting you a little mad. But plastic is easier to work with and breaks less than metal because its less brittle and lighter.
Also it looks like specialist games are coming back
>>47693884
they need to stop giving there IP to every shit flinger who wants to make a crappy mobile game even by mobile games but besides that the prices could be lower. Models still look damn fine in my opinion. They could try harder to balance the game for the armies and give the SOB some love so that they could get all of my spare money along with my virginity ( for the God emperor of course). I mostly play Hordes for the game-play and 40k to model. The writing has stayed around decent recently so I am largely happy with them.
>>47698704
>AoS dead
They are making a number of the required changes to fix it.
Killing fantasy was a mistake but that was the previous CEO.
> Closer to AoS.
I've yet to hear an argument for this that makes sense.
I can't say how much roundtree is fighting people at the top to cause change vs being brought in to make changes.
His biggest problem is long production cycles and inertia. It takes a long time from realizing there is a problem to publishing a thing that fixes it.
Especially when the problems are so deep in the production cycle as they are at gw
>>47699785
there has been a change in CEO?
>>47699777
> Mobile games.
Everyone is selling there ip to shitty mobile developers.
Wotc made the worst puzzlequest game I've seen and that was by one of the less shit companies. DC and marvel. Movie tie in games.
While the mobile games are shit. This isn't a he thing. Just ignore Mobile games unless you know the developer.
>>47699824
Just because other are doing it does not make it less shit, it just makes them shit as well. Not saying it is huge it is just annoying to see it on steam.
>>47699798
Yep. About a year ago. We're just starting see products and such he hand a serious hand in.
Like releasing the drafts of there FAQ and asking for review and comments from the community. Working with larger vendors. Getting started kits.
>>47699843
Agree I just don't see it as a major problem for GW. They have lots they should focus on fixing before then.
And in general working with other companies is a positive thing for them
>>47693884
>be me at 16
>Necrons finally got plastic models and these cool new green tube things
>local store always runs painting competitions as a promo for new armies
>pick up my necron warrior
>paint him a "green circuitry with engraved gold shoulders/accents"
>suddenly green tube thing doesn't match color scheme
>it's 4 am. Been at this all night. Wat do?
>panic and paint tube "glowing blue with lightning/electricity arcs"
>never attempted that before but shit looks cash
>take CircuitCron to store
>judged...
>problems...store manager yelling at new employee...argument over my model
>come in second place...everyone in store (including staff) thinks I should've been first
>new employee rated mine a 1/5 because I painted the green tube and in his words, "It's not a true Necron unless the tube is green!"
>mfw
>>47700155
>It's not a true Necron unless the tube is green
>"excuse me sir, what colors did you paint your tyranid there?"
>thats emu shit base and baby vomit carapace, with a literal elephant piss wash"
completely legal color scheme
It's pretty much reached a point where GW is gonna do the same shit, and the same crowd will keep them afloat. The tabletop gaming world will continue changing, improving and adapting and they will still be there.
Really the only thing that baffles me at this point is the "competitive" 40k players. It's actually pretty crazy that they even put themselves through that. I mean for conversions and just messing around, sure go nuts. But the ones who attend and take tournaments for it seriously? The game world in no way makes up for that shit show of a system when it comes to balance, tactical play, or really anything worthy of playing a game competitively
>>47698625
They haven't turned anything around. Let me know when they completely rewrite the rules to actually be competitive with well written modern games rather than being a horrible hackjob of a 20 year old game with tons of awful bloat on top and games can be finished in less than 4 hours and all factions are equally supported and the playerbase is actually treated like a partner rather than "those disgusting peasants who don't give us enough money".
>>47699777
>they need to stop giving there IP to every shit flinger who wants to make a crappy mobile game even by mobile games
That would be a bad idea since licencing their IP is the only part of their business that isn't failing right now.
>>47700155
>"It's not a true Necron unless the tube is green!"
I'd agree in part, you'd have to have a pretty good lore reason to have them some other colour. It'd be like having green Bloodletters of Khorne.
However, making a big deal out of it with a 1/5 rating is rancid cuntbubble behaviour and he should burn in hell for that.
>>47699081
>Warmahordes
I hope you're prepared to get fucked by Mark 3
>>47700566
>>47700609
Anything is better than that sorefest that was MK2i used to play cryx and would laugh at the heavy arm skewlists
>>47700566
Green Bloodetters aren't too out of place. I can see them being many different colors, since there's supposedly different colors of blood out there, even if red human blood is the most common. Though blue makes more sense since hemocyanin (the chemical in copper-based blood) seems to be a more likely candidate since it can be found in some larger creatures, namely large crustaceans. Although there is at least one lizard with green blood because it contains such high levels of poison to kill off its potential predators.
Hell, there's rusty, orange, craggy-skinned Orks from the Farsight supplement since their spores germinated on a planet covered in the rusty environment of a desert planet, and you could have Eldar Striking Scorpions simultaneously piss of Khorne and the Space Marines by painting them red and brass, mocking Khorne's Brass Scorpions and the Red Scorpions space marine chapter.
>>47700609
I could never get into warmachine after watching a room full of grown men arguing about a quarter inch. Heavy metal model wobbled on that hill? Better fight about its position!
It seems like it's a tabletop game that should really be totally 2D with little tokens.
>>47698851
>talks about lack of sense and taste
>complains about things he supposedly doesn't care about on 4chan
>>47701808PLAY LIKE YOU GOT A PAIR AMIRITE?
>>47701808
You can play Warmachine purely with tokens if you want. Models are just more fun and nicer to look at.
>>47700710
>Red Scorpions
Are grey, not red.
>>47699785
I'll rephrase it, 40K is moving closer to the AoS ethos, ie. 'how cheaply can we make rules and artwork and still get away with it?'
>>47698724
I'd like to think that would be the case but unfortunately the store I went to, they were the drooling retards.
One of them was actually wearing a fedora.
>>47698761
I also heard that you can't play in GW stores unless you're brand new. Like, you can't bring your army in and have a game with your mate at the store. Not sure if this is true or not. I can understand this decision from a business standpoint but it still irks me.
>>47700609
That'd be terribly difficult since I haven't played a game of Warmahordes in about a year now. Let me tell you, it's hard to make it to the LGS when your wife has a fluid schedule and you never know from week to week who's going to pick up the kid from daycare. And when I have game nights at my house it's usually roleplaying, not wargaming.
>>47701808
I could say the same thing about GW given that I saw a pair of grown ass men take 4 hours to play 1 turn of a game because they kept stopping to argue about rules.
Warmahordes is usually pretty good about rules - they're clear and there's not too much to argue about.
>>47701808
This is why you play for fun and not for anything important.
I'd pull my teeth out if I was playing in a competition and some autismo made me measure to the millimeter whenever I have to move something.
I hope the 8th edition of 40k "signmarizes" the rules so people stop whining about them and trying be competitive about the game.
Like, 40k is 90% painting, collecting, modelling, and lore. The sour community and irrational unconditional GW hate makes the last 10% very hard to enjoy.
>>47702189
What's wrong with AoS rules? Most people agree that the simplified ruleset is one of it's strengths, even the people that hate the game on principle.
>>47702676
>it doesn't have a point system to balance it, and that makes people very uncomfortable
>it also has some ambiguity in the base rules regarding number of attacks
>the original warscrolls had very little interaction between models
but the biggest two reasons are:
>it wasn't WFB
>nobody actually read the rules, especially when it came to list building
>>47702676
I'll give you one guess
>>47702769
I was talking about the rules, not the sigmarines. Nobody likes the sigmarines.
>>47702676
Because its poorly written garbage around the same level of depth as Yahtzee where you just roll buckets of dice to see who gets the most 3+.
>>47702725
>it doesn't have a point system to balance it, and that makes people very uncomfortable
which they are fixing in what might be the best way possible.
I don't think points are the only way to go, and they have protential problems, but not giving any real guidelines for setting up relatively matched or at least interesting games was pretty shitty.
>the original warscrolls had very little interaction between models
which they fixed.
>it wasn't WHFB
and they decided to end all support for WHFB.
If they'd kept some basic support for WHFB, with a vague announcement for 9th ed somewhere down the line, when they released AoS, it wouldn't have gotten a quarter of the hate that it did.
>>47702807
>Nobody likes the sigmarines....I like the sigmarines
>>47702846
I know they fixed the warsrolls, but you don't get a second chance at a first impression.
And they did give guidelines for balance play in the form of their deployment rules and sudden death rules. They don't balance the game terribly well, but neither do GW's point systems.
>>47702890
Balance you say?
>>47702890
>I know they fixed the warsrolls, but you don't get a second chance at a first impression.
very true. I just wanted to point out that there has been a move to improve the game.
It's part of what builds my hope that the new ceo is moving to do better.
>And they did give guidelines for balance play in the form of their deployment rules and sudden death rules.
that is hardly a system.
I don't just mean it doesn't work to balance, I mean it doesn't feel like a good system even for casual play.
While the GW point system is pretty bad, and it giving a false impression of balance is one of the problems with balance, it does at least give you a better guide to have general feel for what you should be going for.
I mean, I have to balance the game on top of the point system to make 40k games work, but the point system gives me a starting point that I can start my thought process from. The AoS system did not.
>>47699699
>But plastic is easier to work with and breaks less than metal because its less brittle and lighter.
Lighter yes, the rest of what you typed just wasted everybody's time.
>>47693884
I just pretend they don't exist and focus on warmahordes and infinity.
>>47693884
Asked employees at two different GWs if I could use imperial space marine in non codex chapters without allies- both said yes, even gave me examples in the rules of why it should work. And here I was trying to not flood people with wolfen and thunderwolves.
>>47701984
It's the name, not the actual color, that'll piss them off. They'd be red Striking Scorpions. Red Scorpions.
>>47703171
Hopefully they can make armies at least look like actual armies. I suppose that they are just too cheap to hire decent game designers.
>>47704268
Easily the healthiest approach
>>47704427
>that pic
Anyone who agreed to be involved should genuinely be evaluated by a mental health professional.
I have a week off work coming up soon so was looking to do a little Eldar painting project (Haven't painted in ages)
Was thinking about some wraithguard or a wraithlord since I've always liked their design, Anyways was on geedubz's site and saw the pricing of Dire Avengers.
Jesus Christ. £20 for 5 models when back when I played it was £20 for 10, I still have a unopened box of them somewhere but what the fuck GW.
>>47698782
Matt?
>>47697266
bolt action
>>47698782
Don't suppose you're from Sydney are you?
Your story is oddly familiar
>>47702430
That's absolutely not true. Plenty of advanced players go into my local store all the time to play.
>>47704427
>>47704499
okay, so I know I'm supposed to be upset here, but everthing is so gray and poorly focused I can't even tell what's there I'm supposed to be upset about.
I see a dragon, some tree type things, another couple of maybe dragon type things, and then just stuff.
I honestly couldn't tell you if those are things that seem like they should go together.
>>47704037
so you're saying it's easier to glue metal minies, same with trimming, shaping, converting etc etc etc?
That when you knock a metal mini off the top of a ruins, you won't have chipped off paint, or broken off the army... again.
>>47704930
It's not anything special, just a shitty game of AoS which is crammed full of shit like a game of Apocalypse except worse because you dont have a ton of dstrength templates for removing chunks of models (comparatively) quickly.
>>47704268
My negro!
I also play Malifaux to fill the hole left by Fantasy. Warmahordes is too humourless to completly replace it but Malifaux feels a lot like Mordheim.
>>47701808
now I know I know
>where do you think you are
but you can find millions of grown men arguing about a ball or puck being a quarter inch off any given day
So many incidents as a child, but recently?
>Walk into GW with my friend, we're both well dressed adults in our late twenties
>GW guy, screws up his face when we walk in
>Uhhh... can I help you?
Just come to look at some paints
>Uhhh... look or buy?
What?
>Are you buying or just looking?
Uhhh... wow... well if you have what I need...
>What paints are you looking for
Baharroth Blue
>There's no such paint, we only sell citadel products here
>It IS a Citadel paint
>Never heard of it
turn on our heels and walk out
and just a few years ago
>New Orc and Goblin 8th Edition book is out, come down and have a look!
>Walk into GW
I'd like to take a look at the new book please!
>No
What!?
>We can't show you the new book or you'll take photographs and put them online
What!?
>We can't let people see the book, unless you preorder, if you preorder we will stand with you as you browse it
I... wow...
(My buddy with me proceeds to go apeshit at this £14k a year imbecile, who then let me glance at the book, of which I have lost all interest at that point)
Thankfully a FLGS opened one shop away the Games Workshop that sells their products at a 20% discount so I never ever have to go there ever again
>>47705938
I believed you up until the lie about the FLGS being next door when they're not allowed within 2 miles. Pathetic.
>>47705938
It's a shame, my local GW is oretty damn good.
Last manager got fired for criticizing the company I believe, even though he was a bro and managed to keep a good atmosphere in the store.
The new ones are still alright though.
>>47705970
Grow up you fucking petulant child
>>47700357
Competive fantasy players were propably much more dedicated,but now they all left and are playing 9th age.
Even when GW would go bankrupt 40k will prevail
>>47693884
I'm in two minds, while GW has started to claw things back methinks it's too little too late.
>>47696314
I've found both this and the reverse to be true in the same store, they come up immediate to try and make recommendations then ignore you when it becomes obvious you wont go for the easy sell/buy a huge overpriced box set.
I've been in a few times after and the guy pretty much ignored me so I just walk the extra bit to my flgs (Glasgow).
I'd recommend static games down in trongate, 15% off at the moment and they stock GW, I got the Imperial space marine model for less than it was going for a few weeks after release.
>>47705531
>Warmahordes is too humourless
I hope I don't start something by asking this in this thread of all places, but what do you mean by this?
>>47706620
It doesn't have wacky orcs in it I guess.
>>47706415
If another HH boxed set as good as BaC is put out, they'll be good enough on my book.
>>47706520
To be fair, I heard plenty of shit stuff about the guy from Glasgow, like how he didn't sell the 30 years model unless someone was buying more than 100 pounds of stuff.
I have stories from GW Nottingham (not the warhammer world one) if anyone is interested
Its mostly about the biggest cunt i have ever met which is Dan (pic related) who worked for White Dwarf for a little while but i knew as the manager at notts store from when i went every weekend for 3 years lemme just try to remember the details
>>47706839
why do you have a picture of him
>>47706873
I cant remember his last name so i just thought i would get a picture off the internet so you know who i am talking about (if you read white dwarf)
>>47706894
is it because of some kind of weird sex thing
/v/ here
What are the chances that GW will force CA to shit out individual, overpriced DLC units for Total War: Warhammer? CA is already bad enough when it comes to DLC.
>>47706839
>It all started when Dan was offered a place at White Dwarf as a writer but GW was wondering why GW notts (his store) was doing so shit
>They guessed that maybe he wasn't a hard worker or clearly not all that motivated based on his shitty store
>Nobody came cos its literally a 20 min bus to warhammer world so most people would just go there to buy and play
>Dan over the next year went on a campaign which utterly killed the atmosphere of the shop and just made it unbearable until i quit warhammer
>His first action was to blame his staff (who were all bros and actually into the game and were the main reason i even went) and got them fired
>Then he got in the staff that hump your fucking leg as soon as you walk in until you buy something or leave
>I was pretty pissed but i had just dropped £200 on the new grey knights so i wasn't ready to quit yet
>>47706925
I don't think GW has big interest on that, as the TW game is located on a setting they scrappedin order to push their new babbys first tabletop wargame, Age of Sigmar, which has not much common with Warhammer proper.
>>47706946
I see. I just thought that if they were as money-hungry as the story goes, they would do something like that regardless.
>>47702866
That's a pretty cool SM Chaplain
>>47706944
>He started this thing which even spread to other stores where they had store rules
>Most of them seemed pretty decent like not eating inside but the main one was that if you aren't playing or buying, get out!
>So i could no longer wait around to see if anyone was up for a game and just sit around reading, talking, showing my most recent painted stuff to people - y'know the stuff that made it a community
>i had to pretend i was looking to buy something which i could not do for longer than 30 mins before coming suicidal at all the attempts to sell me stuff
>One time i see Dan ass raping some guy that just wanted to get started and managed to sell him the black reach set but as he was checking out he kept insisting he needed to buy all this other stuff like sets of paint, scenery, equipment, extra dice
>He went full fucking jew mode so it looked like he was selling more
>The guy was clearly pretty shy and didn't want to buy this stuff but did it anyway
>Dan all pleased at himself because he is great salesman
>30 mins later the guy goes to another staff member and asks him to refund it all because he doesn't want to play anymore
That is my fundamental issue with this batshit sales thing GW have on. People defend it by saying its just how businesses work and we cant blame GW. But he just put a guy off warhammer completely by being so forceful and he put me off because it lost all community.If i got any money i could not wait to spend it on models, get them painted and show them off to my friends at the store but Dan ruined that for me so now i haven't spent a penny for about 2-3 years
My bros at GW were my only friends cos i was a fucking nerd and Dan took them away from me
want me to carry on?
>>47696426
I'm not him, but I can do small comparison:
1. Scale of miniatures is different, It's like Epic from GW, but with army size like wh40k
2: Game go "I move one battlegroup, you move one battlegroup and I move again" until there's no more units to move note that there can be multiple units in one battlegroup, It's like moving whole fast attack, or troops section in WH40k
3: You spend points to make you commander better, and you have cards that allow your commander to do cool stuff, like changing target of one enemy weapon, blocking their movement, healing, turning off enemy defences etc.
4: Game don't suck balls
>>47707027
im enjoying
>>47707027
>So some time has passed but i miss my friends so we decide to just arrange to meet up and play
>If people want to watch the game we grant them control of 1 unit so they are 'playing' and dont get kicked out
>He came up with these crazy new ways to sell shit like when he say down with some primary school kid and told asked what his next project was going to be
>Kid was like "omg i wanna turn a land raider into a fortress by putting defenses on top" or some shit
>Dan telling this kid what he has to buy to make this conversion and encouraging him to do it
>I was just like wtf dude he is like 10 leave him alone
>Dan replaces all the tables for people to play on with starter tables to get new people to play so we can't have more than 1 game at a time
>Went from 2 starter tables to 4
>There is never anyone using them but we arent allowed to move to models and play ourselves
>If we ask for an introduction game to pass the time he kicks us out
>Also was a dick to the people that sit in and paint but i never did that so i don't know what exactly he did
>>47702649
Are you retarded?
If they outright give up on actually making rules like they did with AoS it will destroy the game entirely and GW will go out of business.
The problem is that saving 40k is now impossible. Just to start you would have to ban Superrheavies, knights and flyers from 40k and the outrage would be immense. From all the people who swallowed GW's obvious cash grab and who don't care how much damage these units being in normal 40k does.
>>47706415
None of these changes actually matter though.
Warhammer Quest is in the AoS setting, its shit by default.
The prices are still insane, the rules still suck.
The specialist games will almost certainly be ovepriced and this assumes they even have the skill to make rules of the same quality as the original iteration which AoS and current 40k casts doubt on.
>>47693884
Personally I think gw need to resale the 40k range. Marine models should be significantly bigger than imperial guard models.
Also new rules to mesh fluff with crunch, marine armies are strike forces lower count high worth, tough son of a bitches .
>>47707267
>Warhammer Quest is in the AoS setting, its shit by default.
That's a very narrow view you have here, I heard it was plenty of fun.
>>47707306
Marines are the right size. They made the plastic guardsmen bigger than the old metal ones.
Also making bigger marines for the entire range would cost vastly more money than making smaller guardsmen.
>>47705970
? What are you fucjing talking about
As somebody that is mainly interested in collecting and painting, the only thing that really bothers me is the price.
>>47694961
Are you me?
I'm in this boat and rowing like a muthafucka. Enjoy the /v/ and the /tg/, still have to sell all of my blue space weeaboo and Guard and spend all of the beer tokens on JSA bikes and buildings.
>>47699630
This is true in our FLGS too, plus Guildball and Malifaux (or however the fuck you spell it). Also Netrunner is pretty huge. In fact, most things have a good following in the store except GW from what I've seen. Kinda glad too since it's a great store, loads of space to play, good coffee and food and the folks that run it are awesome.
>>47707267
>>47707332
Warhammer Quest is a fine game, but it's about three times the price of comparable games by other companies. Absolutely ridiculous.
>>47707522
Just bought a bunch of JSA.
I love yelling the unit names in a Mr. Miyagi accent while painting them.
Infinity is an awesome game to play as well.
>>47694873
This. I need to play (primarily) with people/beings, not vehicles.
>>47705987
>priya ladies wear
Noice.
Are the Bretonnia armies stopped and you won't be able ot buy them anymore on GW?
>>47707267
>The problem is that saving 40k is now impossible. Just to start you would have to ban Superrheavies, knights and flyers
Why do so many people hold ridiculous views like this? Why are people so obsessed with GW providing a balance that you could easily achieve yourself?
Think of it like racing. Racing isnt a shit sport because supercars exist and your tricycle can't keep up. Try racing other tricycles.
>>47693884
I play chaos space marines.
Competitively.
>>47709425
That means you'll never be able to play with anyone you don't already know and have arranged this house rule with.
Kind of cuts down on the whole community angle.
>>47709425
>ridiculous
They have made these things standard so now its hard to escape them. You are suggesting it would be valid if standard racing rules allowed supercars and tricyles together instead of having them separate by default.
40K should have a Kill Team > Zone Mortalis > Regular 40k > Apocalypse tier system with superheavies, knights and true flyers only allowed in the last one.
Allowing them in normal 40k is nothing but a cynical cash grab that has driven many people away from the game.
>>47709594
It doesnt require house rules or much effort to put together two lists that have roughly the same strength, even between codices that are on different level competitively. You may have a point about it being harder to play complete strangers, but odds are they're looking for a fun game as opposed to one composed of just superheavies and flyers.
>>47709725
You still have the option of putting games like that together yourself, and all under the same ruleset. I agree that size creep has set in, but GW wouldnt be able to make a cash grab if the player base wasnt excited about the ability to field knights in 40k in the first place.
Maybe the original intention was to generate cash, but the result is a game that's scaleable all the way to near apocalyptic levels without additional rules. I think that's cool, but my opinion may be worthless.
>>47696324
My local GW is the only games store I go to, it's really nice in there and the manager is chill af, helps you out if you ask and has never pushed this sales stuff on me I keep hearing about. I guess I'm lucky to live where I live (or unlucky considering gw games are the only wargames alive apart from x-wing)
>>47709845
The onus should be on the people with the huge models to set up an apocalypse game or just agree to allow them, not the other way around. This is why so many people are either giving up 40k or not starting due to the increased game size and lack of a smaller scale entry game with the same rules.
Who cares if the people were there, they are just as guilty as GW is in the decline of 40k as a playable game.
>>47705987
You serious mate? I got into wargaming a while back and that's the exact GW I go to, I've never had a problem with the manager there.
>>47710055
I haven't been there in a while, no idea who the manager is now, no reason to go in with Warboar next door.
While I've been collecting there's been about 8 manager changes in that little shop.
One of those stories was when the 8th edition Fantasy codex for Orcs n Goblins was released to give you a timeline idea.
The few GW's I've been into recently, everyone has been super normal and not GW at all. "Hey how are you? What you working? Ok, cool. Let me know if you need any help." That's it. weird.
>>47710151
In all fairness I think the aggressive hounding policy ended years ago, No one will miss it.
trying to be persuaded to buy the latest Dwarf releases when you just told the guy you collect Tyranids or something was fucking cringe
>>47710182
Yeah, it was the reason I've avoided them for literal years. I only went in recently to buy the limited edition Capt, for a SM army I will probably never start...
>>47693884
Remember when GW killed their beloved fantasy battles game?
I just wish the employees weren't like vultures around new people.
Whenever I hype myself up to go learn some stuff at a GW and actually intend to buy stuff I get put off by an employee just trying to sell me the most expensive stuff rather than trying to help me find something that I actually want.
My local GW scene seems to basically consist of one games club that meet in a pub instead of the store.
The store is dead.
All the FLGSs run regular nights of virtually all of the popular games except GW ones.
>>47699194
>Necromunda, Blood Bowl, Gorka Morka, Man O War, Mordheim, Space Hulk, Dark Future
>Mention Dark Future
>Forget Inquisitor.
Fuck you.
It was an abortion, but it's my favourite abortion with the best fluff and best art and best models.
Fuck you.
>>47699247
>Killing off Specialist games wasn't their darkest deed.
Word, brother.
They were the soul games, not just the money games.
And that's why people still play them despite most of them being dead for decades.
fucking hate gw, killed off some decent units like Lukas Bastonne and penal legions. Speaking of penal troops....If I want to use penal legionnaires for an ig force, should I just reference/make use of the 5th ed. codex for rules and points or use a fan-made one off dakkadakka?
Can't be arsed having to do a platoon command squad to field them as normal infantry, and they look nothing like vets since I've give the scum of humanity autoguns. Anyway, I think penal legions are still canon because of regiments like the Savlar chem dogs; and also because they've been featured in books like imperial armour 1.
>>47707198
Sounds exactly like my store a few years ago.
We had to book slots for the painting table and for games (only 1 board due to starter boards)
At one point forgeworld models were banned since the store never sold them, never did see if that rule stuck since I pretty much moved on.
I long ago joined the ranks of those who just quietly moved on from GW.
Can't even hate them at this point, especially with Kirby largely out of the picture.
But can still be annoyed by their actions on occasion, like killing off Warhammer Fantasy, even though I wasn't a fan of what they were doing to the setting anyway.
And wary of what they're doing with the resurrected specialist games line because I've been burnt by remakes and reboots to trust that quality is automatically implied.
>Be 7 or 8 and go to GW Ealing Broadway for the first time
>had no idea what Warhammer was, cool kids at school played it
>buy the dark eldar vs space marines starter set
>play dark eldar for a few years, painted pink and blue because I liked those colours
>take them into store, my warriors, a raider and some other things
>employee tells me my colour scheme is shit and I should stop painting forever
Must have been ~2002 or so
So what's the latest infos about GW situation? I heard that AoS didn't sold as much as they hoped and that the CEO was kicked out, it is true?
>>47710597
All we know is that even with some popular 30k/40k releases, the WHFB panic buying/last chance sales and with how hard GW is pushing AoS their revenue has stayed stagnant.
Given most money on a kit is made at release this is not a good sign for them.
>>47709425
>Try racing other tricycles.
Yeah, BUT...
Wait, fuck you and your reason, 40k sux!
>>47709276
Yes, the faction has been entirely killed off.
>>47710597
He changed positions and appointed his succesor. He might as well still be CEO allt hings considered.
Fantasy sales actually did go up (not by as much as they expected howeve), but that is more due to the sheer number of releases within the timeframe and of course the panic buys as the figures are still good for KoW, 9th Age ect.
>>47707936
>, but it's about three times the price of comparable games by other companies. Absolutely ridiculous.
no it's not. Board games with those numbers of unique detailed models, tiles and cards are at least $100. Given the quality of the models, it's very well priced.
>>47711182
Rumour has it that Kirby is barely around now, to the point of not even attending meetings. Hence there actually being a clear change of position on things like specialist games.
>>47711603
Source?
>Live near Warhammer World (GW HQ)
>Big group of us hire out tables every month to play Fantasy on
>Tables are booked online
>You have to select what system you're playing, you cannot book without doing so
>Be the first one to arrive
>Age of Shitmar tournament is going on at same time
>Can't find our tables
>Search and finally find them
>They're 40K tables and right in the corner
>Speak to staff member
>"Sorry anon, we had it down as 40K!"
>No you fucking didn't
>Ask staff member to have tables set up for Fantasy
>Staff member huffs and puffs and goes to fetch scenery
>Rest of group arrive, explain the situation
>Everyone agrees the 'down as 40K is bullshit'
>Finally get to game
>Stuffed right in the far corner away from the AoS tournament
>mfw GW tried to cover up people playing fantasy because of the AoS event
I honestly keep forgetting they even exist, no gw games have been played in this store for months now. It is all historicals and ffg now.
>>47710462
>>employee tells me my colour scheme is shit and I should stop painting forever
He was probably right though
My local GW was actually pretty cool until the manager quit over shitty company policy, then it went down hill fast and everyone basically left.
Apparently it was pretty well known among some of the other GWs in my area, at least from what people told me. Eventually it shut down because it just wasn't profitable after the old manager left apparently.
>>47710335
This is indeed true, just a couple of weeks ago myself and a few pals started a mordheim campaign, only played a few games so far due to work requirements, but the fun we are having is immense, it feels just like the old days, but with more smack talk and innuendo now
>>47705970
Lel, there are litterally 3 stores in a 40m radious around the local GW
>>47712151
Rumors are going around they are bringing back specialist games or something like that.
Blood Bowl rumors have been strong. Overkill, execution force. No Mordheim rumors, but they did license out a pretty decent video game version of it, so they are at least paying attention to that.
Even the kid friendly intro game that's showing up in Hobby Lobby and suck shows signs that they are expanding out of the core table top games.
>>47712300
I don't get how that guy can be so stupid.
I mean, it's distantly possible that GW has a policy about opening up new stores too close to other game stores, but they have no ability to stop other stores opening near them. Which is exactly the situation the anon he responded to described.
>>47712470
Unless they open it at a mall, or operate with someone that owns all the nearby buildings and gets a clause in their rental agreement to that effect. Which is going to be pretty fucking rare.
>>47712445
I hope the rumors are true, I've all ways been a fan of the specialist games, as an older player I would love to be able to go in to my local gw (st Albans) and play games there, instead of on coffee tables at my pals houses, purely so the younger players can see there's more to the hobby than new releases, power gaming and AoS, and that the hobby should be about fun with your friends and not being a turbo autist red shirt, also fuck gw hemel
>>47712610
I'm cautiously optimistic. We have seen them pushing out more boardgames, most of which are primarily to push models while giving you something else to do, which is still a good thing.
But Warhammer Quest is a full game in itself, it has lots of model that can be used for AoS, but it's clearly mainly meant to be a board game.
And while most of the most recent company goals release was the standard corporate buzzword bs, it did include a few things that were clearly changes in company policy. A focus towards new customers by increased visablity, packages that let players start into the game easily, and above all working with other vendors.
They had a full paragraph that boiled down to 'we want to help other people sell our product', which is a pretty massive shift from their 'everything in house all the time'.
I don't know how that's going to turn out, but there's been enough for me to believe that at least some people in positions of power are seeing a problem and trying to change things.
>>47711685
I live near there too and i have had awful experiences where they book the wrong table, don't book a table at all, have no idea who i am etc
I just gave up and take whatever table is free
>>47712771
The lack of full scale games being played in store has all ways irked me, its what first got me hooked oh about 20 years ago, going in to a flgs and watching two old school neckbeards playing a game, not just a 20 model intro game
>>47694762
Kind of where I am at right now. I used to be more ticked off, but now I have moved onto cheaper, and better games.
>>47706637
But it does have steam-powered Russian metal smash bots. Which is pretty fucking cool.
>>47713758
Yeah but it has a more consistent tone, so it doesn't go from grim dark our entire race is dieing, to wacky goofy antics of retarded space fungus.
>>47710462
This never happened.
>>47713010
Well hey anon, if you see us, come say hello. We'd be happy to have some more players join us!
>GW Oxford
>Using my lizardmen
>Steagdon is painted but doesn't have its howdah attached
>Turn 3
>Blue shirt wanders up
>WHERE IS THE HOWDAH
>In my box, I've not stuck it on because then I can't paint it
>YOU CAN'T USE IT THEN
>Fucker grabs my model and pulls it straight off the board
>Opponent and I both wtf
Wish I'd put a formal complaint in about that tosser.
>>47714720
This didn't happen though did it? Most blue shirts can barely be fucked to keep on living, I really doubt any of them cared enough to do this.
>>47714765
No anon, it did. It was 7 years ago and I'm still fucking salty over it.
>>47698724
This
>>47713072
full scale wargames, or the specialist games?
Either way, that depends a lot more on the individual store than on GW policy.
One of my local stores does weekly 40k game days, has a store copy of Warhammer quest people can come in and play, etc. Not a GW store though.
>>47695529
Price was the main problem ten years ago. Now the issue is that aesthetic/sculpt-quality/rules are such shit that I wouldn't buy what they're selling even if it wasn't eye-wateringly expensive.
>>47698921
>>47714997
Any game being played would be preferable to empty intro tables, we used to have many a game in store, even had a veterans night when us older players could gather and play with out being surrounded by kids, alas our based store manager left and we got some new corporate faggot, no vets night, only intro games, no specialist games, and then the store died, popped in a few weeks ago and it was empty, maybe 2 beginners and a depressed blue shirt
>>47715454
well, that's individual shit canoes.
There is a reason people drive 30 minutes to an hour to play at stores in the neighboring town rather than going to the one in town. Because the owners and managers are shit canoes.
None of those are GW stores, though the one people avoid is the oldest one, and doesn't understand why less and less people go there.
>>47702725
>>nobody actually read the rules, especially when it came to list building
You mean "take whatever u like! XDDD" combined with "but if u do then it becomes SUDDEN DEATH!!!! XDDDD"? Those rules?
Read them, rolled my eyes at them, dropped them into the trash with Toshino Kyoko.
>>47705970
>retard who believes some random shit he read on the internet
>>47709845
>odds are they're looking for a fun game as opposed to one composed of just superheavies and flyers.
HAHAHAHA, oh wow it's hilarious. It's like you've never been to a GW store to play games there.
Why can't GW make good rules?
Every fucking book in the last 20 years or so I played was unbalanced as fuck. When a new book came out, you could just flick through it in 5 minutes and would right of the bat identify most of the units that would never see play, all of the units that are way to good for their points in addition to many shoddily written/ambiguous rules.
What annoyed me wasn't the fact that they didn't balance their games properly, it was that they never tried.
I'm now playing autismhammer aka 9th age and every book has so many viable choices I'm a little overwhelmed. I will probably spend a few hundred €s to get my 4 armies up to date, I won't be buying from GW though to keep AoS afloat.
>>47710366
If you want penal legionairies, check out the 30k Cults list. There should be a link to it on the 30k general.
>>47714720
>GW Oxford
buckle up, anon. I have a story that may amuse you.
>me: an actually smart, funny, non-fat american. Also very tall.
>a few years ago, in awesome long distance relationship with awesome English woman
>visiting her, she lives near Oxford
>we're touring the city, see a GW store
>I had recently quit the game due to becoming tired of GW's bullshit
>she goes to use a restroom somewhere else, I step inside for a moment out of curiosity
>employee teleports over to me
>"Hello! can I help you?"
>"I'm just looking around."
>"Great! Do you play any of our games?"
>explain to him about quitting
>"perhaps you should try again, there's some awesome new stuff out"
>american attitude kicks in
>"Nah, I'm good."
>"what?"
>"I'm not interested"
>"then you'll have to leave"
>lol wat?
>"So I can't just look at --"
>he puts a hand on my shoulder and tries to steer me to the exit, while saying some bullshit
>I stand there. did I mention I'm very tall? It's nice when people try to push or pull you and you just ignore it.
>He starts pushing me
>I'm just staring at him, trying not to lose my temper
>Manager comes over and tries to stop the guy
>Guy starts pushing manager
>guys setting up for game head over. "leave him alone!"
>time to go.jpg
>while they're distracted, I head out the door
>the last thing I hear is plastic shattering. someone used an Ork vehicle as a projectile weapon.
>meet my lovely English lass
>she says "anything interesting, darling?"
>"Not really." briskly walk away from the store
and that's how I started a brawl in Oxford's GW storedammit, I miss her now. She really was amazing.
>>47716036
>>47715997
>in the last 20 years
I'm not sure you actually comprehend the vast amount of rules GW has put out in the past twenty years. The amount of flat out entirely new games. Many of which are still wildly popular, despite not being supported whatsoever anymore.
>it was that they never tried
Several complete remakes of epic 40,000, warmaster, gorkamorka, gothic, necromunda, mordheim, inquisitor, LoTR (and the entire Warhammer Historicals line of games), WotR, aeronautica, six editions of 40k, five editions of fantasy.
And that's ignoring all the board games or mini-games they've put out.
>Why can't GW make good rules?
GW makes lots of really fucking good rules.
>>47716036
oxford pfft
What's wrong with flyers? Air combat is the coolest part of any war.
>>47716421
>GW makes lots of really fucking good rules.
no they fucking don't.
>>47716036
He put his hand on you and actually pushed you? Thats a green light where I come from. I'll lay an employee out all day long if they push me first.
>>47698724
>played 2nd edition in high school with my friends
>orks, so I always won
>good times, big group, we'd play anyone
>even made friends with this really strange kid
>all kinds of spectrum, but a really sweet guy
>at school one Monday morning, found out GW store assistant had called the police on him
>he'd walked in the store with a pen and a pad and started copying out the rules from the Space Wolves codex, in full view, no fucks given, on one of the gaming tables
>he was 12
>store assistant got cautioned for wasting police time, then fired by GW for being an asshole
>>47716600
oh, I wanted to, but I wasn't sure of the laws in England. Plus I was on my best behavior for my GF.
>>47716546
I think his point is that GW makes a lot of rules. Yeah, they don't often work together well, but lots of them are very good - Individual special abilities are fantastic and lots of their non-40k ventures are very competent and fun. Their recent board games, for example, are all pretty good.
>>47716606
My brother did something similar once... sort of
>I was playing a game of 2nd edition 40k
>My younger brother was watching but wandered off
>"What the fuck!?" exclaimed the manager
>I wandered over to see
>My younger brother had laid out the ships display copy of Man 'o War across the floor of the shop and was busy copying the ships damage cards onto a pad
wew lad
>>47715557
Dude the rules are four pages long, just read them
>>47716646
You sure? I thought Imperial Knights was a bit shit rules-wise
>>47716546
Yeah they fucking do.
8th ed fantasy? 7th ed 40k? AoS? I don't care for them.
But saying they haven't made good rules in the past twenty fucking years? Have you played even a third of the games I mentioned?
>>47716828
>>47716828
to be fair, that was basically something stuck in a new mini box. It's the only one of the games where no one I know who bought the box has any desire to play it.
The stuff that's more dedicated to being an
>>47716036
lol this didn't happen
then did every Englishman in attendance buy you a pint of Newcastle while hoisting you over their shoulders?
For me Warhammer was something that left me wide-eyed with excitement.
The idea of fielding and commanding hundreds of painted miniatures organized in an army that I my self had composed and set together...
But I was ALWAYS ALWAS ALWAYS put off by their absurdly high prices. For me, with parents that would in no way shill out the amount of money required on the game the Battle for skull Pass set was a god send.
>buy it
> trade the goblins with more dwarfs
and then?
The miniatures were still expensive as fuck.
When I moved to canada at 17 and finally had access to internet I discovered Ebay and tons of used miniatures at a fraction of the price, then I discovered alternative manifacturers.
All in all I haven't bought anything directly from GW since 2007 or 2008 when BFSP came out.
I just never hated them, just thought that since their price were stupidly high for glorified toy soldier I would spend my money elsewhere.
At one point I actually remember being very happy that GW had priced me out of their models as i would have never discovered the plethora of alternative miniatures otherwise.
What did really bothered me was leaving the hobby for 2 years and then coming back just to find WHFB abandoned.
I'm sure AoS is a great game, but it is NOT a mass ranked fantasy game.
>>47700566
what is the lore reason for why they are green in the first place?
>>47717059
If you went back to the 90s or early 2000s, before GW had real competition, you'd hear the same complaints but way more excuses from apologists, because no one had anything better on the market. Now you can stuff for way cheaper or even pay the same prices for better stuff.
>>47697266
Warmachine has a new edition coming out this month.
>>47706658
Indeed. Two words- assault marines.
>>47697266
Blasters and Bulkheads.
>>47717059
BASED EBAY
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Some simple green and patience can turn 10 dollars on ebay into 40 dollars of good looking miniatures. I built 3500 points of SM for a *vast* fraction of the cost.
I personally can't say anything bad about the GW store in my area. the guy that works there is the chillest man I've ever met, and all the players are cool, don't mind new players learning as they go, and the store owner has some god-level banter.
>almost decided to start playing 40k
>realized I would waste hundreds of dollars on an army that would be entirely useless in 6 months or so
It was a close one.
>>47717033
It sounds kinda Bullshitty, but my LGS use to have this super aspergers dude on staff, that could be baited into doing equally dumb shit.
I remember the dude flagellating himself and getting mega upset when one of his fellow coworkers was cracking on him.
Basically all it takes is a store hiring that one autist for it to go crazy.
>>47719216
Why buy an army that will be useless in 6 months when you can buy one of many armies that are useless right now?
>>47719216
>useless
only if your obsessed with playing the most powerful shit all the time, and/or you can't find people to play with who aren't about playing the most powerful shit all the time.
>>47719818
So I could easily build, say, a pure Sisters of Battle army right now and not be gimped?
How about a Squat army?
>>47719216
>tfw you want to play necrons and tau but still need to finish your other projects before starting a 40k army
Fucking hell gw has me hooked bad.
>>47721159
>tfw you used to play Tau but stopped for a few years and came back to hear every unit I like had been gimped or left behind for bigger newer gundams.
They used to have me. But looking at prices and knowing the stuff I liked wasnt very good gameplay wise just ruined it.
>>47720530
>>47719818
>How about a Squat army?
No longer exists sadly. Still, I even if i drop my imperial guard.
I'm gonna just keep it on my shelf and let them fight the bio titan known as my cat.
>>47716036
>Ork Vehicle
>Projectile
Typical Ork Player
Haven't had too many experiences with GW staff, neither good or bad really. My LGS does have a very annoying crowd however, don't play Tyranids or you'll get the usual;
>Only good bug is a dead bug
>DLC faction
>Sucks to be you, enjoy 7th psyker rules
>Cruddace
the staff are pretty cool and chill though.
>>47714668
yeah bro
look out for a guy with a nose which is broken to the side in a right angle
thats me!
>>47716036
i remember when our Nottingham store's best painter, who won the young people's painting award a few times, painted a dread all pink with flowers and shit
One of the cool employees started taking his sock off and threatening to put the dread inside and throw it under a bus outside
I'm not sure if he put the sock back on
I'm pretty sure the dread saw play a few times
>Went into my local store to check out the 3rd ed Guard Codex
>none on the shelf, so he'd have to go into the storeroom for one
>did I really want to see it?
>yes please
>took him 20 minutes
>had a quick flip through it then handed it back
>aren't you going to buy it?
>explained I didn't play guard
I can still see the mixture of fury, bewilderment and despair on his face. Didn't know at the time, but the store was on it's knees. Ah well. I couldn't be a store manager.
>>47706670
(Guy you replied to)
I'd heard the glasgow gw was holding back imperial space marines in store claiming they couldn't be sold as they'd been pre-ordered, not sure if true or not, from their rep it sounds like something they'd do.
Imagine my surprise when a few week after that happens I find an imperial space marine 10 mins down the road for less than GW was selling it for.
>>47704427
>>putting your tablet on the terrain with the screen facing down.
jesus christ I can't believe this heap of wasted air is allowed to exist.
>>47696314
>and saved my parents hundreds.
>his parents actually spent hundreds of dollars on minis for their kids
Spoiled little shit detected
>>47723184
Spending hundreds on entertainment of a child over the timeframe of 8 years (10 to 18 or w/e is your local age of legal adulthood) sounds pretty normal for me.
Hell, I've been poorfag and would still get 50 every X-mas. That adds up to hundreds over the years. Four of them specifically.
>buy a set of the promethium relay pipes
>back of box says it comes with two corner pieces
>spruce only comes with one
>email GW for a second corner piece
>they send me a whole new box
Pretty sure someone just fucked up with the labeling on the boxes.
>>47709845
>harder to play complete strangers, but odds are they're looking for a fun game as opposed to one composed of just superheavies and flyers
Depends on local meta. The flgs here has a (shrinking) group of 40k players that generally avoid formations and powergaming.
The GW here has a small group of tards that excusively run powerlists. Their regulars are Tau x2, Eldar, Ravenwing, and Skyhammer. They hate FW and wont play against it because its 'cheese'. And the redshirt is their leader. Most people avoid the place.
>>47723184
Most parents spend hundreds of dollars a year on toys, games and the like for their children.
>>47710182
>In all fairness I think the aggressive hounding policy ended years ago, No one will miss it
It was never a policy. There were guidelines and opening scripts, thats it. The agressive sales tactics were due to the pressure on the one man store managers to meet their numbers.
I quit going in there about 1.5 years ago, but the redshirt Luke at the Scttsdale, AZ store was a prolific liar, and I'd see him mislead people nearly every time I was in there. Idk how he's doing now, but our group quit supporting his store in favor of the flgs.
>>47723309
Games Workshop customer service is bar none the best.
>won a windrider box off of ebay a year ago.
>finally opened it, realized it was previous box and didn't include weapon options. No scat pack
>contact customer support. They exchange it, no questions asked for the new box.
> be Tyranid player, 18, just starting to do conversions.
> Dismember a hive tyrant, red terror and lictor to create an enormous custom monstrous creature.
> Show it to redshirt, he's impressed and offers to paint it for me.
> Back a couple of weeks later "that guy left, too bad about your mini".
>>47715439
Why is his tricep on his right arm bigger than the bicep?
>>47724132
Because Age of Sigmar minitures are exclusively shit.
They're either hilariously overdesigned, or anatomically incompetent. Or in the case of Archaon, both.
>>47723480
That fucking store.
Moved out there last May. Utterly killed my hobby.
>>47724436
But Stormcast eternals look awesome.
>>47722113
If you're willing to give your contact details anon, I can add you to our group, we're heading there next week.
>>47723480
>>47724482
I travel between Phoenix, San Diego, and LA for work. I play games in all 3 cities; I don't bother going into the Scottsdale Games Workshop anymore. It's a hostile, unfriendly place. I've never been offended personally, but I've witnessed the British manager and his group of regulars bully people on more than one occasion.
The last time I was in there the manager got pretty aggressive kicked a guy out because apparently he'd had his FW order shipped to the store, and the manager had opened it. Sounded like there was something(s) missing from the order - and the customer was upset. The Brit manager ended up getting loud and crazy and kicked the guy out. As far as I could tell the customer was behaving appropriately and handling it well, especially considering opening others' mail is a Federal offense.
But yeah, that Games Workshop is a bad place.
>>47695529
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>>47698921
Just why.
>>47725021
Probably new to the hobby, or so irrationally devoted to Games Workshop products that he cant tolerate opposing views.
>Went to a GW
>Had a friendly chat with the staff.
>Bought an item
>Built it
>Painted it
>Had some fun games with it.
Am i doing this right?
>>47725105
You would have saved money purchasing it online
>>47725105
Of course, but not every Games Workshop store the same. The manager decides what kind of environment the store has. Sounds like your GW has a good manager.
>>47723221
>>47723184
That's a gaming council and a couple of games.
Over the course of years.
>>47724988
LA/OC area has some solid places. That's where I was from before going to Scottsdale, and even the GW's in SoCal were mostly great. The LA Battle Bunker, when it was open was awesome, if only for so many decorated tables. Then the Fullerton store, when Joe was in charge was one of the best ever. Never pushy, was cool with just about whatever, and still hit his marks because the community liked and respected him. He knew how to balance the side of catering to the "little Timmy's", and the older crew that just grumbled about GW and maybe bought a blister once a year to play Mordheim with.
