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In the last thread potential Custodes rules were thrown about while we tried to decide if they were OP or not, we counted the wolves on Leman Russ, Knight Anon got yelled at, we got a new pic of the Glaive Praetor and people pointlessly argued about his legion, Dorn got told off, animal skulls were compared, /a/ showed up and took a shit everywhere, a bunch of warpy stuff got posted, I clutch at straws and not much more in the last thread >>47652419
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What a pile of shite, seriously guys just let it go.... 40k is dead. Find something new and move on with your life
>>47668568
Move onto something new, like 30k.
>>47668568
good thing this is 30k then friendo :^)
>>47668568
>the weebcuck is still crying
down the road not across the street
Why is SoH so underpowered?
God yeah guys your so right. It's 30k, not like 40k at all. Oh our system is broken lets patch it up and make everything better. Pathetic.
>>47668630
well they lost the war, didn't they
>>47668504
I never wanted to be known as Knight Anon, but it's what I deserved.
>>47668504
Your thread summary was better than mine. Regular Thread Guy gives you his blessing. Now how do I fluff out out my Forge World without being too snowflakey? And I am the guy who has the crazy Magos frozen in the center of the Forge World mind you.
>>47668687
Gay
>>47668645
If you don't like it then leave, no one is forcing you to post here or spend money. 30k has enough of the right kind of fans to keep things fairly legit and you won't convince anyone here to stop by shitposting. I'll even be a good sport and let you have the last word if you want because I won't be replying to any more comments you make. Enjoy the rest of your day :)
>>47668630
They're pretty good nowaday, really.
>>47668630
I posted this in the last thread but reavers have made them competitive for me with people I play.
>>47668705
Curious though, why mod a game you don't like, why not just play a new game?
>>47668728
like what? faggothordes? cuckmachine? shitfinity?
>>47668802
So that's it; there's nothing better out there?
>>47668867
nope. now fuck off.
>>47668687
Haha, sorry fella. Like I said in the summary I was clutching at straws for material and nothing much happened anyway. At least you're (in)famous now.
>>47668698
Thank you, last thread was difficult. About 30 more posts than usual but so little usable content. I didn't know if you were around or out fighting wendigos.
>And I am the guy who has the crazy Magos frozen in the center of the Forge World mind you.
Mind expanding on this? It's not something I remember.
>>47668802
Don't drag us down to that level, all those games have their merits.
>>47668630
>Two wound ws5 FC stubborn chosen warrior scoring termies for 40ppm
>BS 5 on almost the entire army at knife fight ranges
>non unwieldy weapons get an extra hit when you out number the enemy in a knife fight
>two good RoW
>Lack luster characters
>GOAT Primarch
>Underpowered
>>47668907
>Don't drag us down to that level, all those games have their merits.
no. they are all shit and so are the subhuman morons who play them.
>>47668896
go post reddit memes somewhere else
>>47668698
Isn't the whole point of the Mechanicum that each of the Forge worlds, and indeed each individual magos that they are all special unique, one of a kind individuals? How, and indeed why, would you want to make your dudes generic?
Take it from the guy that's building/fluffing violently independent slavic Death Guard miners, follow your dreams anon, the worst thats going to happen is we make fun of you and make you start cutting again
>>47668943
Under powered is the new meme, it basically translates to 'not totally OP'. All the Istvaan III legions had it, DG complained first but it was only minor and was drowned out by people complaining about not having their legion rules. WEs complained next a bit until their new rules hit, now we only see occasional complaints about rampagers and cadre weapons. ECs are constantly complaining about things despite being pretty good now (then again that's EC for you so maybe they are just roll playing). Now it looks like SoH have picked up the complaint batton.
tl;dr: they had their time at the bottom so think they deserve their time at the top rather than everything remaining as balanced as possible.
>>47669125
SoH are probably top tier right now
Also someone should add the text of the chainaxes rule to that memo, just to throw more salt in the continuously gushing wound
what legion did the most/was the best at ethnic cleansing?
pert burned those tallarn sandniggers pretty good.
>>47668907
>I didn't know if you were around or out fighting wendigos.
Those are a seasonal thing save for that one little island called the Wendigo Isles.
>Mind expanding on this? It's not something I remember.
Right then. I have made some changes though.
>Exploratory fleet went out during a calm period during the Age of Strife. Got sent back in time two years before Age of Strife happened at Forge World's future site
>tried to warn sector about the Age of Strife but was labeled as lunies
>Age of Strife happened and Chaos plus xenos rampaged across sector with some AI declaring themselves as humanity's successor
>cogboys started looting DAOT tech and bunkered down
>head cogboy staying alive through combo of bionics/cowardice/DAOT life extensions and needed a case of manning up
>conscience starting eating away him telling him to man up as his sanity took hits below the belt
>Best bro died making him snap
>Decided to man up, and prepared to be as heavy handed as he needed to be
>Thought revenge as a dish is a dish best served cold should be put to practice
>Titans that freeze things was made
>Slowly became just as bad as the monsters he fought
>Had a moment of lucidity and decided that monster like him wasn't needed anymore when the Long Night was drawing to an end
>Left instructions for his successor and froze himself
Come on and hit me with all you got. How bad is it?
>>47669076
>Take it from the guy that's building/fluffing violently independent slavic Death Guard miners,
Now I'm curious.
>>47669217
Ethnic cleansing of who? Literally every single legion wiped out whole planets. That is the definition of ethnic cleansing.
>>47668711
What's changed?
>>47669217
>Is Lawrence of Arabia and WW2 British Desert Rats
That was the second thing wrong with your post. Your first mistake was not reading the rules.
>>47669271
>+1 BS when in 12"
>Justaerians are now one of the best units.
>>47669284
go back to your safe space faggot
>>47669235
yeah but who was the best at it?
HELP ME DECIDE
http://www.strawpoll.me/10426608
>>47668698
>>47668504
I was expecting Skull hat edition, Perils of the warp sub edition, but it's not something to sperg about. Indeed we changed topic quite often last thread.
Say, didn't you fluff your Journey to the center of the Earth Brendan Fraser magos already? Adeptus Mars requests a revision of the already stablished fluff.
>>47669308
>Best at it
This phrase is the cancer of /HHG/. Please fuck off and die.
Do IF bikers get the +1 BS bonus since they use heavy bolters? I've been wanting to field bikes for a while now and was wondering.
>>47669217
All pert did was make Tallarn into a better fighting force he didn't even ethnic cleanse properly.
>>47669329
not an argument
>>47669222
>How bad is it?
honestly not too bad, I've certainly read worse posted here. The only thing I'm iffy with is the time travel part as it is rarely approached in warhammer. I can only remember one instance where warp travel actually sends someone back in time (that ork), most of the time it is a variable journey. All those went back in time or jumped forward 10k years stories seem silly to me because it hardly ever happens.
Also when you say freeze do you mean by stasis munitions or literally turning things into ice cubes?
>>47669313
BA would be fluffier due to the siege, Sang and the Lion were discovered right after each other so it isn't like the emperor would have spent an exceedingly longer time with either. That being said I prefer DA and am making a Ravenwing army atm.
>>47669313
None of those. Fluff-wise the Imperial Fists fought alongside the Emperor the most frequently, and they were with him until the end.
I mean, several were, but the Imperial Palace lasted so long mostly because of them.
>>47669313
BAs because they were at Terra and would make sense to fight with Emps and His Pillar Men.
>>47669322
See here >>47669222 What I didn't include is that his name gets past down to each new head of the Forge World, and the new Leto Duratus gets the first one's weapons. Just think Huron's claw but with freezing instead of burning.
>>47669403
There was one time a ship sent a distress signal, and when a ship found it they traveled towards it only to realize they were the ones who sent the signal. And yes I mean freeze rays.
>>47669313
Both are wrong.
Literally the only true answer is the Imperial Fists.
>>47669467
>>47669435
yeah
But The Lion and Sang are going to be really cool models. Dork will be meh. Also Fists are pretty boring. And painting yellow is shit.
>>47669494
>And painting yellow is shit.
Where does this come from?
>>47669500
People who have painted yellow, mostly
>>47669217
The DG were pretty good at it. I mean literally all they do is gas faggots 24/7.
>>47669217
World Eaters, fuckers killed entire planets.
>>47669451
I've never liked time travels, but the few of them I love are ontologic paradoxes and the like Like Interstellar , so I'd say it's alright.
Your Archmagos progressively becoming less of a man and drillind too deep (Dwarf Fortress, kek) are ON SPOT, since that's what several AdMech end up doing.
If not for them, then for the ones that will follow.
>>47669451
Having read >>47669222 my problem is that you're not really adding lore to a a forge world. You're just fluffing up a single guy. Personally, everything before "Titans that freeze things" is irrelevant. That's the benefit of the Age of Strife, you can black box the origins of forge worlds, and in general, just a few hints, like the fact that the original Lord Magos is frozen somewhere on the world, adds a lot more character than an exact reason. In fact, not knowing the reason in this case makes it more interesting for me.
>Started 30k army a year ago
>Slowly got most of the shop into 30k
>Its a GW
>The manager is now considering banning FW from the shop because it is actually cutting into his sales
Why the fuck wont they just sell FW in stores, jesus christ
>>47669692
The new Tautorus glaive guy is supposed to commence selling FW in GW, isn't he?
>>47669728
Im sure he's there to test the waters.
>>47669692
The last line of your green text is why.
So ditch the GW and find the nearest LGS. Spend a few bucks when you visit, a big order every quarter. Done and done.
>>47669624
>>47669655
I'm not a smart man. I'll add my fluff for the first head toaster molestor as a legend and the believed reason why he's frozen. As for the Forge World itself it's a tomb/war world with feral Orks on it forcing the inhabitants to be on their toes constantly which is a plus as the strongest will be added to the Skitarii.
>>47669692
Hey, you have a GW.
At least you have an FLGS.And I'm just sitting here with the IG Start Collecting! box I ordered a while ago. It's nice to paint them, and come up with theoretical army lists, at least. Hopefully BaC is still out by October, maybe ask for it as a birthday gift. It's too hot to prime right now, so all I can do is shave off the moldlines and glue the models.
>>47670087
>>47669692
because technically gw and fw are not 100% the same lwhy do you think gw is trying to muscle in on 30k?
Fuck Erebus.
>>47669217
The Night Lords were kinda racist towards Terrans.
But they they genocided their whole race so they win both ways?
>>47670487
>The Night Lords were kinda racist towards Terrans.
So were the DG from Barbus.
I'm going to buy some Vindicator Laser Destroyers soon but I need to find out what else to get for free shipping.
Contemptor or Scorpius?
>>47669010
Studio says we need to shoehorn in a new comic relief character that appeals to "demographics," intoducing, tumblr!
>>47670515
Did the DG from Barbus genocide their own homeworld?
>>47670549
So a transgendered wheelchaired woman who has no powers and fights for black lives only?
>>47670515
And the Raven Guard, or at least Corax.
>>47670550
No but they didn't quite like their Terran brothers.
>>47670569
It was Corvus.
>>47670515
Mortarion almost never recruited from outside Barbarus, because he wanted the hardy people from his death world, even though Catachan had been already discovered and fought on.
>>47670487
Vaguely related but whatever, Fel Zharost claimed that Terran Night Lords, at least those from the prison sinks of Albia, had eyes even more sensitive to the light than the ones from Nostramo. Does that mean they had better night vision?
Also had naturally sharpened teeth.
>>47670600
How would he have felt about Pyrr?
>>47670611
They were also naturally hairless, but Fel somehow grew a beard.
>>47670611
>Sharpened teeth
What legion is the best at melee?
How about best at shooting?
>>47670611
They very well could have. Nostramo wasn't pitch-black all the time. They still had the concept of day and night.
It's just that their days were as dark as Terran nights.
>>47670638
Beards are magic, anon. Best not to question it.
>>47670639
Like they were born to be Night Lords
>>47670667
Plus city lights, there cant be many neon lights in the fucking prison sink.
>>47670656
Blood Angels in all categories.
>>47670656
>What legion is the best at melee?
WE>NL>BA=EC
>>47670668
>Beards are magic, anon. Best not to question it.
I won't. Guy also killed a girl on accident with mind bullets, could shoot green fire, and was a "dream eater" if I'm not mistaken.
>>47670638
The same way he felt about Morturg, I guess
>>47670746
Phyrr I meant, is a death world. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Phyrr
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Phyrr_Cat
>>47669217
never seen a black night lord
>>47670784
Oh, I see.
He would take it for what it is: a harvest/training world (akin to the DG's version of Bodt?). They would harvest poison from the planet's biosphere and send the neophytes down there for Death world training.
>The Mechanicus remotely operate the facility from the moon base. They do not bother with guards or security systems since there is nowhere for the prisoners to escape. Should the convicts become violent or riotous, the Tech–priests are willing to switch off the air filters and let Phyrr’s nature take its course.
kekekekekek
>>47670487
>The Night Lords were kinda racist towards Terrans.
>"The integration of Terran and Nostraman warriors was among the swiftest on any Legion. The old Legion and the new fitted together like two sides of a coin..."
>>47670880
>Oh, I see.
>He would take it for what it is: a harvest/training world (akin to the DG's version of Bodt?). They would harvest poison from the planet's biosphere and send the neophytes down there for Death world training.
I think Ol'Morty would start sweating heavily if he knew about the planet.
>>47670891
>and then the first company split as soon as a Terran half-way looked at the first captain position.
>>47670914
Yeah but that was more to do with Sevatar being Sev more than the new commander being Terran.
>>47670891
Reminder that Night Lords recruited from all over the galaxy, not just Terra and Nostramo.
>>47670960
Reminder that if you are a Night Lord that isn't obsessed with flaying all day erry day and actually obey orders, the legion will see you as a flawed normie.
>>47670960
You'd think they'd have sufficient amount of recruits from just the systems around Nostramo.
Both Nostramo and Terra were hive worlds and I can't imagine the planets Nostramo traded to were small either.
Did recruits have a problem accepting geneseed or was the Night Lord's legion bigger than I thought?
>>47671000
Dude wasn't even cowardly. What a failure!
>>47671067
Woah, is there one of these for Colchisian and Chaos runes?
>>47671067
If there isn't one for the sons of Baal and Caliban I'm going to Bangle Dangle someone.
>>47671103
thirty seconds on google.
>>47671103
>>47671145
>>47671157
>>47671088
>Follow orders to the letter for over 70 years, without backing or fleeing them
>Lose your ship when you used it as a bait to save the rest of the 67th Expeditionary Fleet. Turns its scrap into a spiky shield to never forget it
>Save your legion from getting anihilated by the Dark Angels.
>Suck up the wounds when the enemy starts to kick your shit in.
>Can make those cowardly bastards into a Stubborn force in order to get shit done
>Gets dubbed "The Coward"
>After 70 years of this shit I'm starting to think I'm in the wrong legion
>>47671122
Caliban probably looks something like this
Now get Bangling
How often do you get the urge to create a custom character and end up spending hours and hours browsing through bits sellers to find just the parts you want?
>>47671145
>>47671157
>>47671171
>Can't say words with "ñ" or "go", like Niño or Rugoso.
>Can probably say words that require three mouths and seven ears to comprehend.
It's an interesting language alright.
>>47671294
>Anael, Joy of God, sexuality
God confirmed for ass lover, truly a divine taste.
>>47671202
I always figured that butthurt challengers called him cowardly because of the shield.
And that his allies called him brave for his stubborn loyalty.
Both labels were used negatively however.
Traditional or Metallic red for my bangels?
>>47670891
The first bunch maybe but afterwords night lords recruited only the scummiest so naturally full of racists like edl or Aussie boggans
>>47671300
I'm waiting for the rest of Ophion actually.
I am having the strangest sense of deja vú.
>>47671426
Why are you saying that?
>>47670318
Heh, you think that's bad? Some of my friends were interested until they saw the entry cost for 40k.
But anyways, at least I'm happy with the hobby aspect.
>>47671452
I feel like I've seen everything in this thread from >>47671067 on. It's odd.
>>47671492
Why are you saying that :^) ?
It's probably nothing. I've felt deja vus on stuff I'm aware I've never done. The mind simply tries to see patterns, and it's good at seeing them. Some times however, it's simply so used to them that it makes them up.
>>47671473
>Friends think $200 to start a hobby is too much
>proceed to spend $80 on weed every single weekend
>>47671539
Well, only one of them is a legitimate poorfag, in his defence. The others just aren't cool with the costs though.
But yeah man, it sucks.
Also, I really want to get the Box DLC that comes with the IG Start Collecting! box. Multiples of them. I'm thinking of making a 'dockyard' sort of terrain/map on my table, and it's really getting to me.
I'll probably get it next year, I really want to start my 30k legion though.
>>47671294
Where's an assault cannon where I need one?
>>47671741
Sangunius confirmed for dying everyday for your sins
>>47671788
The final battle of the HH is the Crucification, and he and his papa died for our sins.
>>47671788
muh real tears
>>47671648
>ZM map made out of shipping containers, abandoned aquila landers and a canal crisscrossed by bridges running through the middle that is the only piece of long, open ground
>can try to go right through cargo containers instead of opening doors
>roll 2d6 like on the chaos boons table to find out what weird shit is inside the container>iron circle are still lackluster
Any Idea what made the Salamanders and the Night Lords so chummy?
Did Vulkan enjoy his time with Curze?
>>47672244
I wish Word Bearers were Sworn Brothers with World Eaters.
Mostly because I don't like Sons of Horus.
But at least since they're with Armies & Cults I could ally my IG with them, or make that one Army list that involves using Cults and Legiones Astartes. Which could be nice and fluffy, though my color scheme for my IG would feel off compared to Word Bearers.
>>47672244
Vulkan pitied Curze.
>>47668728
Because it's a mod that makes the game enjoyable.
>>47670532
If you have one then get the other, if you have neither treat yourself to a contemptor, your already buying heavy support choices and if you are a nightlords player the contemptor for them is fucking amazing in person.
>>47672244
Why are NL angry with EC?
What legion has the best contemptor and why is it EC. If dreads got LA then it would be the best ruleswise too
>>47673663
forgot pic
>>47671350
I think the other red legions are taking metallic for themselves.
>>47673676
Not so much on the 'Flawless Precision', eh Emperor's Children?
>>47669333
I'd have thought IF get the bonus on their jetbikes, yes. Same with speeders if you head that way. Unless they're specifically outlawed in the rules, I cbf looking them up.
>>47669217
I would say the Night Lords, that was sort of their thing, and maybe also White Scars. They mopped up a shit ton of Orks on their travels and they seemed to be quite competent at it.
>>47669222
This is a pretty detailed back story man, I can buy into this. How did you develop this, was this inspired by an RPG or a story? What colour are your robutts? Agree with >>47669403 that time travel is a bit too convenient, but whatever. It's not lore-breaking necessarily.
>>47669597
Oh yeah, they also enjoyed a good genocide.
>>47670370
Always relevant, fuck that guy.
>>47670487
This is one of the only times I've seen a NL model and wanted to make one of my own. What bits went into making this? Are they Terror Squad components or Dark Elves bits?
>>47670703
Source?
>>47673663
That's a pretty flash Contemptor, I'll give you that. But if dreads had LA rules? Nah man, take a full talon of scouting/infiltrating double grav fist contemptors, watch them fuck shit up.
>>47669333
I had thought that It only applied to Infantry, but after checking the Rules again, it doesn't seem to put a limit to any type of Unit.
Go Crazy Anon.
Then again, I don't even have an army yet. I was actually thinking of starting a Imperial Fists Legion too, I'm just sitting here in the thread, trying my hand out at paining.
Could you guys give me general tips and tactics. I was a novice in 5th using a friends SM army, and I barely played. Really wanna get into 7th through 30k.
>>47669692
>>47669728
>>47669739
Yes, the point is that FW is going to be available in GW stores, that's what the limited edition mini is in commemoration of. GW managers will have no excuse for banning FW.
>>47674589
What are you painting man? Got a legion in mind?
Some are considered harder to do than others, for various reasons. Imperial Fist yellow is a bit tricky, but desu not overly so, you just have to use a lighter basecoat and steadily build up layers. Great pay-off if you're patient. Sons of Horus have a slightly unusual sea green which is a bit of a challenge to get "right" but again, great scheme if you can do it well. Reduce the challenge with both these legions by painting a fair chunk of the armour black or gold, bronze, whatever.
White can be tricky, because it can be hard to shade without making the model look grubby. Tbh though I like my dudes to look like they've been fighting so I don't see this as too much of an issue.
There are a number of black legions, and making Your Black Legion the black it should be may also be a challenge. Iron Hands look great with a blue tinge, Raven Guard suit a charcoal, stealth black, Dark Angels perhaps a lacquered black.
As for tactics, consider hitting up 1d4chan. It'll give you an idea of the strengths and limitations of the released Legions so far.
>>47674691
As I previously stated. Imperial Fists, I love the Fists and Rogal has recently become my favorite Primarch, not to mention the Genius of his "Last Wall Protocol".
I looked up a cool looking Tutorial and I was gonna try that.
I'm trying to get some Forge World through a Local Store (Woo Non-GW Gaming Stores!) so I am using 2 Space Marine Commanders as practice, and trying out several ways how to paint.
>>47674772
>>47674691
OH! How do I thin paints? Do I just add water to the Brush, or do I actually add water into the paint directly? I've heard (and seen) why you need to thin your paints, but I was never told how to do it.
>>47674802
Go to warhammertv on youtube. Watch tutorials, a lot of them, several times.
>>47674540
>White Scars. They mopped up a shit ton of Orks on their travels and they seemed to be quite competent at it.
In one of the Scars' books, one White Scar comments how he'll make more of them himself if they ever run out of Orks to fight.
What has two claws, flies and looks like undersea monster vaginas?
>>47675373
Nice castsWho from?
>>47675373
Man, the design of the kharybdis is so much worse than the dreadclaw.
Which one of these links has the rules for Imperial Knights?
>>47675422
should be the last of CC's yellow resin. He is changing now
>>47671067
Bigger than thought seems to be the main one; FW makes reference to them recruiting an entire generations worth of children from planets they attack.
>>47675706
>the planets in question have small populations
>the survival rate for recruits is absolutely miniscule (0.001% or somesuch)
>the Night Lords had millions upon millions of marines
>FW is just as bad as GW with numbers
It's going to have to be one or more of these options. There are something like half a billion male youths of suitable age worldwide. The UK alone has several million.
>>47671300
So often it's not even funny, I've even considered buying full kits for one rare piece and selling the rest on eBay.
The boxes that we have all been teetering on the edge of our seat to see have rules!
>>47675999
I updated it for 30k.
>>47675999
>stabs armoured container with Paragon Blade
>rolls a six
>it explodes
>>47675827
Well it is post-attack that they "recruit" like that, and I can't imagine the survival rate for Night Lord recruits would be high, especially if they're doing rapid recruiting
>>47676072
>Konrad Curze kills a bastion, a command squad, stormbird and three tactical squad as he escapes.
>>47676103
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>47676151
Any news on when Path of Heaven is out? Scars is probably my new favourite heresy book, just ahead of mechanicum.
Also when did it become a thing that White Scars don't use dreadnoughts? I never knew that was a thing. And why isn't that in their rules in book six?
>>47676456
>Also when did it become a thing that White Scars don't use dreadnoughts?
Chogorans don't like the idea of permanently being trapped in the cold and dark.
>And why isn't that in their rules in book six?
Terrans didn't give a shit.
>>47676523
Jesus, that's prettygrimdark, and I plan on going full night lords tier and making it a looted dreadnought. Not sure who they'll of looted I from yet though, maybe SoH as they've got the nicest looking dreadnought.
>>47671300
More often, I'll inventory my bits boxes and order parts to make complete models out of what I already have. I don't think of making custom chars and command vehicles, etc, until the parts arrive.
Am I blind or can Venom Sphere Harness be equipped by Lernaeans only, and not regular Terminators?
>>47676168
But anon Magnus was, you know, intelligent.
>>47676456
1- path of heaven has been out man. And it's a great read, just like Scars.
2- it's been in their lore for a while. It's in Scars, it's mentioned again in Path of Heaven.
3- Because Contemptor and other big dreads fucking print money and FW isn't cutting that off, for any reason, from any legion.
>>47676456
>when did it become a thing that White Scars don't use dreadnoughts
back when paul sawyer wrote their fluff
but he also ran a dreadnought in his white scar army, and thought a dreadnought with tank treads to keep up with the rhinos and bikes would be fucking sweet
So it's never been a hard and fast rule, just a "these guys don't like [unit type] but still have a few in case they really need them", like Salamanders with jetpacks and speeders.
>>47676848
Just looked on Amazon and it says Path of Heaven isn't out until October 6th?
>>47676894
Nah, this is 30k, jetbike dreadnought when?
>>47677031
Land speeder?
>>47677031
>jetbike
Nah, this is 30k
Dreadnought Mastodon when
>>47673763
So another Cataphractii character?
Thats like 3 or 4 Cataphractii characters and one Tartaros character to dateAnd still no fucking saturnine. What the fuck FW?
>>47677051
no saturnine, no indomitus
no justice
>>47677050
Mastodon? Fuck that noise, Primarch Dreadnought when
>>47677080
DREADNOUGHT STORMBIRD WHEN
>>47677068
They actually fucking mention them in their rules as well
"Oh yeah, all these things exist, but fuck you cataphractii is the only one that matters"
Well I guess Indominitus does already have models technicallybut using them would make you a filthy poorfag
>>47677098
At this rate I feel like that's more likely than ever seeing Furibundus
RIP sweet prince
>>47677080
>>47677050
>>47677031
All I hear from this, and all GW is going to hear from this is, "I want Dreadknights in 30k!"
Just so you know.
>>47677031
>>47677050
>>47677080
>>47677098
Dreadtitan Stormodon when?
>>47677144
GW already knows, that's why we have the hilarious dreadnought scale creep with the contemtpor, deredeo and leviathan
>>47677144
I'll allow it if it only ever carries Angron around
Because he's a little baby manlet primarch
>>47677165
The deredeo is from nostalgiafags screaming about how they want their Rogue Trader back.
>>47677197
>The contemptor is from nostalgiafags screaming about how they want their Rogue Trader back.
FTFY
>>47677210
>30k is from nostalgiafags screaming how the want their rogue trader back
FTFTFYFY
>>47677145
Confirmed by Hastings for next HH Weekender:
LEGION HAWKTHUNDER EAGLESTORM - superheavy flying titan
LEGION CLOACUS DREADNOUGHT - stealth dreadnought?
LEGION COLONIC IRRIGATORS - new infantry unit, armed with sonic rams and Fundament Penetrators (mole mortar?)
still no sign of Drop Site book or Calth :(
>>47677023
Well my kindle and BL account say otherwise brah
>>47677197
>>47677222
the names, yes (contemptor and deredeo at least)
The designs aren't rogue trader in the slightest. The contemptor is a pre-Epic Epic design. Rest of the fatnoughts are just made up on the spot.
>>47677222
>30K is from nostalgiafags writing rules about how they want their Rogue Trader back.
FIFY
>>47677222
30k was about marinefags screaming how the game doesn't have enough marines and Chaosfags screaming how their legions don't have enough rules.
>>47677235
Fucking Amazon need to get their shit together, I want my stories about little plastic/resin soldiers fighting wars in space
>>47677233
>superheavy flying titan
you don't understand how badly I want this now
>>47677348
Why not play BFG?
>>47677387
Eh, I was thinking more "Imperator with a jump pack" than "5km starship"
Quick: the First or XXth Legion?
>>47677588
First. Alphas are Be'lakor: The Legion (everything was due to their puppetmastery etc.) and thus scum.
>>47677588
Not quick: Why those two? Are we picking our favorite? Are we picking a legion for you? If so, what is your reasoning behind liking either one? Is it their color scheme? Is it the lore?
>>47677233
>CLOACUS
>cloaca
Gross
>>47677588
Dangles are harder to paint, but much cooler. Proper space knights.
They're also much less of a meme army, if that matters to you.
>>47677633
>colonic irrigators
>>47677588
Alpha legion is a meme legion, pick The First
>>47677588
First, unless Loyalist XXth.
>>47677650
I play EC so that's right up my alleypun intended
>>47677588
Alpha Legion. Nothing wrong with a loyal legion.
>>47677666Nice trips, Satan...
>>47677588
If your a tread head or are sexually attracted to flying oversized black donguses then 1st
If your not actually anon, anon has been dead for weeks maybe months, and the whole time you've been faking that he was still alive to his friends while you slowly manipulate and kill them off while replacing them with your own look alikes so you can steal all their social insurance and incomes to feed your overpriced resin crack habits then get help
>>47676623
FW probably forgot to add the list of people that could buy them (like ICs in termie armour and termi sgts), they're always doing fuckups and erratas. You better ask your opponent first.
>>47677772
You almost had Quints.
>>47677233
>>47677348
>>47677387
>>47677619
>>47677627
>>47677634
>>47677657
>>47677663
>>47677696
First it is then.
I like them both due to the mistery surrounding them (your dudes aspect) and the various equipment equipment they have, one ancient Terran stuff unknown to others, the other experimental xeno shit. Aesthetically they are on par - I prefer ALs gaudy colours, but robes are undeniably cool as well, although we yet have to see the DAs 30k look in full so I'm not really sure how to approach that part.
The only thing I really dislike about the two is AL meme thing, I'm okay with the rest.
>>47672244
Why do Space Wolves and Blood Angels hate each other? I thought Russ had nothing but respect for Sanguinius. I mean, why do they work better with World Eaters than Blood Angels?
>>47678222
Legions are not their primarch and vice versa. This is very important to remember when comes to legion relations. We'll find out a more detailed reason when Inferno comes out.
>>47673763
Ummm... Why is it a Night Lord? I mean, I thought Night Lords were unique in that they were the only ones that were never really down with the whole "Glory to Chaos" thing.
>>47678261
If it's that "the company of Sons of Horus that joined the Prosporo attack told the Wolves that the BA were all dicks, and the Wolves believed them" I won't be happy.
>>47678222
Because FW admitted they fucked up the AoD allies chart
>>47678265
>Ummm
Don't do that.
Anyway, NL not going in for worshipping chaos in a big way doesn't mean not a single one of them tried it out.
Okay now I think I have actual lore for Muh forge world. Quid Fornax is the Forge World home to Legio Glacialis Flabra, and was once aspired to be the apple in the Omnissiah's eye. The planet itself is covered with craters of wars from ages best forgotten that are now deemed sacred by the local Martian priesthood. While some craters are new from the warfare of the local population, the priests know the holy craters from lesser craters. To desecrate these holy craters would result in a quick, merciless punishment.
The forge world while devoted to the Omnissiah has gone against the central tenet on inovation in the past before. The Fornaxian Priests assure all that this was the past, and that it was done out of desperation. Many have noted that they have a pretty lax attitude towards inovation, but are assured that nothing is done in their forges that would make the Omnissiah sick. The red robbed priests do make use of snow mobiles like the natives, but instead mount lascannons, rotor cannons, bolters, meltas rather than simple flamers and lasguns.
>>47678286
Space Wolves in 30k have been horrifically written ever since the start. I understand that they were written into a corner, what with them needing to lose 90% of them before the end of the Heresy, but I refuse to believe that "What if we make them absolute fucking idiots?" was the best solution.
I mean, the fucking invasion of Prospero is now a shitshow. Space Wolves had the element of surprise a larger fleet and a larger amount of Space Marines, as well as the Thousand Sons Primarch being moping in the back... And they STILL lost 50% of their legion in the battle. Then they jobbed to the Night Lords, then they jobbed to the Alpha Legion.
>>47678286
Considering that chart is based on great crusade era relations, I highly doubt it.
>>47678395
You mean it was a planet-wide Verdun?
>>47678464
Yes! Just covered in snow with the occasional hot spring.
>>47677793
Well you could say I'm in a way attracted to all kinds of bikes, hopefully we get anti-grav bikes soon.
>>47678328
How would you fix the chart?
>>47678415
To be fair, the Thousand Sons did whip out the whole "surprise titan" thing, which probably amounted to a fair proportion of the Space Wolves casualties
>>47678649
Make separate Traitors and loyalist charts at this point.
The Cults and Militia AoC (or whatever they changed that shit to) with everyone, with the provisions already included in the list.
Mechanium AoC with everyone.
Use some of what GOOD BL writers have used as basis (why no WB with WE like in Betrayer) and yes I realize that is subjective but my well reasoned counter argument is get fucked.
>>47678554
As in, IRL?
Anti grav doubt it, but there are many ways of defying gravity.
I was thinking more about actual jet bikes, with jet engines and harrier-style nozzles...but I couldn't find the pic, so here, have a prop-hoverbike
2:50 is Jetbike mk1, Age of Terra pattern.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxxPyaAT1k
You can't ride it if you don't have a cheeky cunt accent, oi!
>>47678814
>You can't ride it if you don't have a cheeky cunt accent, oi!
I don't think I can pull that off. Can I have a mono-wheel instead?
>>47678843
Sure, have fun
>>47678867
But it's too tiny! Something more like pic related is better.
>>47678903
So, size is your concern? Still technically a unicycle :^)
>>47678965
More like safety is my concern.
>is IW fan but cares about safety
I guess being a fan of BAs and DAs first has bled in.
>that picture
Got anymore of those kind?
>>47679008
Only this. Because safety is a concern.
http://www.roadsideresort.com/blog/the-future-of-travel-revealed-the-ginormous-wheel
>>47679034
Reminds me of the Doomwheel.
>>47679064
Well, Xana probably had Death wheels, because "The First Daemon Forge" and all.
HH6
>>47679212
Fuck yeah
Dark Mechanium Death Wheel when
>>47679244
>Reductor characters
>Saturnine
>Furibundus
>FW's own 7E rules
>The Great Scouring
>Everything else ever
>Dorn's model
Hey, don't cut in line.
>>47671539
Potheads and other assorted junkie trash are some of the worst kinds of people.
They pay the idiot tax every fucking weekend and yet have the audacity to bitch about how much things cost.
>>47679212
I don't know how I missed that giantic wheel of death when I was looking at HH6 again yesterday.
>>47678541
So planet-wide Verdun with the occasional hotspring?
>>47674540
>Nah man, take a full talon of scouting/infiltrating double grav fist contemptors
EC can already outflank up to three contemptor talons on whatever turn they want.
>>47679736
Yes. There are feral Orks and Necrons on the planet, but non-AdMech natives handle the Orks most of the time. The tech priests reward the settlements based on how many Orks they kill as their forges are mostly fueled by the corpses of Orkloids. As for the Necrons they are mostly frozen, but one or two thaw out every now and then. Those that are thawed out are lynched by the tech priests, and tied by the throat to the snow mobiles of the priests.
>>47669308
>yeah but who was the best at it?
Probably World Eaters because they had no off button.
>Be told to take planet
>Land on planet and begin killing things
>A city is well defended
>Attack city and kill everything we find
>We find some Imperial Army soldiers also in the city
>Kill them to
>Keep killing until there is nothing left to kill
>Find another planet to kill
>>47669313
Blood Angels were with him at Terra and went with him to face Horus. Dark Angels never really faught with Big E all that often, as far as I know.
They spent most of the Heresy trying to decide who to side with.
>>47677348
No I understand completely and I want you to leave because of it
Gentlemen, any ideas on how to use and equip Reaver squads in the Long March RoW? Normally, I'd say jump packs, but that'd make them lose the benefits of the Relentless March rule.
>>47680801
>they never fought with big e
Accept, you know, that part where they were his PERSONAL army during the late Unification Wars, early great crusade era...
>>47680801
>They spent most of the Heresy trying to decide who to side with.
They really didn't though. One Punch Lion Man was chasing Curze down, had to check to see if Rowboat was doing anything that needed him punched, destroying forests on Maccarge because his PTSD was actives, and then punched his way back to Terra. The traditional nature of the Dark Angels and their secret hierarchies within their legion deflected warrior lodge and Aloha Legion Inflitration most likely. We'll have to wait and see how FW does it. I suspect the Art of Calibanian Punching.
>Yo, Papa, some of these guys were sent from Horus to bring warrior lodges to us.
>If they can't take one punch this legion will have nothing to do with them.
As for them fighting with the Emperor they had to at one point. An IW had Unification honors. An Iron Warrior.
>>47679851
>Those that are thawed out are lynched by the tech priests, and tied by the throat to the snow mobiles of the priests.
I like this a lot
>>47681240
I'm glad you do. If it's not a Destroyer it's getting tied to a snow mobile.
>>47680982
Like normal reavers? Geared for CCQ. You don't want them sticking around in your deployment zone just for the sake of relentless- take the fight to the enemy, where they will get Crusader so they can sweep the enemy. Why would you pay a premium for CC troops to shoot with them.
>>47681093
>Accept
>>>/40k/
Whatre you guys working on today?
>>47681624
My newly decided-upon Dark Angels. Greenstuffing some robes or such.
>>47681624
Nothing. It's too hot to prime, and I don't feel like assembling my other guardsmen right now.
I'm indecisive whether to buy the box DLC that comes with the IG starter box to expand my IG army, or get BaC and start my legion. It's a hard decision for me.
For legions, I'm leaning toward Word Bearers, Death Guard, Iron Hands, World Eaters, and Alpha Legion.
>>47681547
I'm going to laugh if you use BaC models.
>>47681770
Not him, but there is no reason to use the resin MKIV models now that BaC exists
>>47681790
Plastic squatting legs suck.
>>47681859
Yeah, but thats pretty much being negated by being less than half the price, more easily available and being easier to assemble, kitbash and convert
>>47681859
so do the skinny FW legs
>>47681859
better than never squatting legs
Anyone else not care about the "your dudes" aspect for 30k? Not trying to shit on the guys who post their lore here, it's good stuff, but I don't care to do it for myself. I like to think of HH as more of a "historical reenactment" of sorts, and like using guys who are "on the record" of being there and reenacting the battles they fought. Anyone else feel that way?
>>47682063
yeah thats how i feel.
>>47682063
kinda sorta
I like the pseudo-historical style, but using named characters and primarchs outside of big fancy events/scenarios feels wrong. Warmaster Horus wouldn't show up to some bumfuck 2k border skirmish.
>>47681770
Laugh ahead.
>>47681859
I agree. Also true. >>47681987
At least for mk.IV and VI.
