What does the ideal d&d party consist of?
Wizards
>>47643326
This.
Alternatively: 1 Wizard, 1 Archivist and 1 Erudite. Congratulations, you have access to everything.
just play shadow over mystara
>>47643322
1 Controller
1 Defender
1 Leader
1 Striker
>>47643322
motivated players.
>>47643322
Traditionally:
Adumb meatheadFighter
Aarrogant cuntWizard
Atreacherous dickThief
Aqt3.14 trap healslutPriest
>>47643432
>class roles in D&D
This is why 4e is a cancerous MMO tier garbage edition
>>47643322
Fun. I mean, I know that's asking too much, because it's D&D, but seriously, all you need is fun.
>>47643322
My friends having a lot of fun.
>>47643322
muscle wizards
>>47643322
Fighter.
Cleric.
Wizard.
Hobbit.
Elf.
>>47643470
>he thinks MMOs didn't take their class roles from tabletop
>>47643470
Okay, I'll translate for you:
1 wizard
1 meatshield
1 healslut
1 dickass thief
Someone who kills things
Skillmonkey who does things not involving murder
Healing source
Dude who talks with people and haggles with mernchants
The party can have more than one copy of mentioned members, have one person do more than one role
>>47643447
Zing
Two rangers, a wizard, three rogues, an elf, a dwarf, and one fool of a Took
>>47643326
>>47643397
Hey now, that's not true.
They need a Cleric or Druid to tank for them.
>>47643447
I'd settle for players, anon.
>>47643322
3 wizards and a fighter (who does nothing)
>>47644795
Oh please, comic relief is important for a healthy party.
4 monks.
One edgelord with a dark and angsty backstory
One dickish powergamer who tries to screw everyone over
One lolsorandumb kawaii ^_^ shit-disturber
One murderhobo who doesn't give a fuck about the plot
>>47643457
This works, too.
>>47643322
4 or 5 players having fun and not taking things too seriously.
>>47643322
Fighter
Rogue
Cleric
Wizard
Support/multi-role
That last can be a ranger, bard, monk, or paladin. Or a multiclass/dual class. Or a snowflake class like assassin or ninja. Or a second character with a core class.
Point being you need the four core roles fulfilled, but should have five people in your group. Subbing a core class only works if you have someone who can take up the role. Or a non traditional GM.
>>47643322
1) A protagonist, the leader.
2) A guy with contrasting personality with the leader
3) An (evil) genius
4) A big dumb fighter
5) The face
>>47643322
>d&d party
Good food, good drinks, probably some music.
>>47644979
El ravager, Teflon Billy, Knuckles, and whomever Sara is playing.
Ideally it has four PCs, not five. Five is too many. The classes don't matter at all, but there should be four characters. Four characters, and three dicks, in any combination.
>>47645104
Alas, TV tropes has this right.
>>47645211
> Five is too many
Not true man. You need one redshirt to walk in front of the party. Who else do you have to tank all unobserved traps?
>>47643322
Players who can accept the GM's world setup.
>>47645189
>>47645005
And this. This is good too.
>>47645226
You're just proving five is too many. The game is better when the party has to stretch or risk themselves to cover every base.
Depends on the edition, but really you can usually get away with almost anything if you're ok with playing sub-optimally unless your DM really wants that ivory tower. Which is completely fine.
>>47643322
I haven't got a clue what ideal is as our current game is:
Sorcerer
Sorcerer
Sorcerer
Wizard
Cleric
That magic Rogue subclass
Wizard/Fighter multiclass
Druid
And we are having so much fun right now.
Course you need a DM to play to your strengths and weaknesses.
Rate my party
>Barbarian that's taken up the role of the leader due to his loud and brash nature
>Paladin that tries to real in the Barbarian and plays "Good Cop" when confronting people for information
>Monk who is a master of dex and is the party's most deadly member
>Warlock who is secretly reading everyone's mind at all times and spends most of combat trying to convert the enemy to his side
>Ranger who focuses all their skills in archery and stealth. Pretty much the scout.
>>47643457
>Trap healslut.
This meme is cancer and is the reason I'll never play Clerics for fear of this type of faggotry going on.
A bard with a silly high charisma. Srsly. That's all.
>>47643322
4-5 normies
0 neckbeards
>>47643457
>anon suggests the lazies, most uninspired ways to play four different classes
>>47645637
Paladin and warlock in one party? Aren't warlocks dudes who sold their souls to evil?
>>47645871
Yeah, but for the sake of simplicity the Paladin hasn't found any evidence the Warlock is any different from any other caster.
It's stupid, but it keeps it easy.
>>47644129
>implying they can't summon something or polymorph into something to tank
>>47645871
IIRC that's only Infernal pact warlocks.
I don't think Fae or Star Pact entities are explicitly Evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABaHY1WuAkM
>>47645660
But anon that''s what clerics actually do, if you want a spellcasting generalist go wizard
>>47645871
Struck a deal with an other world entity.
Be it Demon, Fae, Old One or other.
Not necessarily evil and souls didn't have to be part of the trade.
>>47646031
Clerics only do that in shitty anime and the magical realm fantasies of idiot neckbeards.
There are a wide variety of ways to play any class.
S-some demure k-kawaii uguu hea-healslut t-trap who t-talks in-in a s-tutter and j-just wants..wants t-to heal e-veryone is only one way to play a cleric. And one of the most fucking grating ways too.
>>47643326
i would love to run a magicka campaign.
Yall always need a bard. No party is complete without one.
>>47645660
Are you serious? It's a joke, you dumb cunt.
>>47646124
Nobody plays clerics that way, you dumb cunt.
>>47643322
By edition:
>OD&D
Ranger
Cleric
Magic-User
Dwarf Thief/Fighter
>1E
Barbarian
Cleric
Magic-User
Half-Orc Assassin/Cleric
>2E
Dart-specialized Fighter
Elf Bladesinger
Paladin
Bard
>3.5
Spiked-Chain Crusader
Psion
Totemist
Factotum
>4E
Fighter with a flail build
Druid with Magic Stones
Ranger with Twin Strike
Hybrid Bard/Paladin
>5E
???
>>47646326
>Joke
>Meme.
>Pick Both.
Nigga I know. But this shitty meme just kills my interest about Clerics. At least with Paladins they get some good inspirational shit and or good memes.
>>47646994
When people joke about healsluts, that means they have not played a single tabletop RPG in their life and just come here for quests and/or lewd threads.
Don't extrapolate their bullshit on your tabletop experience. Clerics are awesome. If you don't want any healer tropes, roll up an evil cleric or a cleric of a war god and never prepare cure spells.
What pisses me off about how clerics are played anyway isn't the healslut meme, but the "wizard in armor" meme. I wish people actually roleplayed their character's religion from time to time as I find it a very interesting element of worldbuilding, and if I ever DM I will actually make clerics fall for failing to do daily prayers and obediences.
Create a party of 4 pcs with the same class but each specializing in a different role of the classical 4: tank, striker, support/control and skill monkey/face. You don't need to give the entire builds, a list of key feats, objects and wich abilities and skills each character will focus on will suffice.
hard mode: no wizards
insane mode:monks
>>47643322
Someone to fight, someone to cast spells, someone to disarm traps, and someone to talk to people.
If there can be overlap between these four roles, so much the better.
>>47647150
Seriously, there are like 7 editions better than your shitty deck builder one.
>>47646994
So all the shitty memes about wizards and paladins don't turn you off of them? That's selective memory right there. There is nothing intrinsically different about roleplaying a cleric and roleplaying a paladin.
>>47647074
>When people joke about healsluts, that means they have not played a single tabletop RPG in their life and just come here for quests and/or lewd threads.
Nigga, it's a joke. If I joked about a bard who hits on literally everything, does that mean I've never played a TTRPG? No, you're just projecting your hatred of various things and blaming them all on a single group.
>>47647196
anon didn't even name an edition
>>47646031
>No such thing as Battle Clerics.
They have decent BAB, have a stupid number of spells that empower themselves, and could wear plate mail until PF. Add the fact that healing during combat is mathematically retarded and other spells offer far better benefits, and the closest thing you have to a healslut is going to be a wand of cure light wounds.
Desu desu Clerics don't happen unless someone is either a weaboo or a grognard.
>>47647202
>You don't need to give the entire builds, a list of key feats, objects and wich abilities and skills each character will focus on will suffice.
Name that edition
>>47647214
>Battle cleric
my jam. Rolled a Dwarven Cleric of Kord, and took the frontline constantly. Anything I couldn't hit with my sword I blasted with a Flame Strike, and aside from that I had Righteous Might/Divine Power
I even had some feat that allowed turning attempts to be used for metamagic, so I had a Quickened Heal just in case
>>47647249
5e?
>>47647249
3.5, 4, 5 and pf have all feats, ability scores, skills, objects and things like that, anon.
>>47643322
Competent players who enjoy a good story, can roll with the punches, and think outside of the box to overcoming the obstacles before them.
Also consisting of
Fighter
Wizard
Cleric
Thief
At about level 4-7.
I personally prefer the party to be underdogs.
Someone has to be strong enough to deal with creatures in close combat, a fighter, monk or rouge usually takes this role. (I don't really like fighters though)
Then someone who can can buff or keep the team alive.
A cleric, paladin or bard usually fill this role.
As long as those two roles are filled, the rest doesn't really matter.
I like to have a leader of the party.
Someone charismatic and good with politics even if they are useless in battle.
I often allow multiple of same class, it could tie in with the story (although a party of bards would be really weird)
>>47643322
two bards
>>47643322
woops
*cough*
TWO BARDS
>>47647302
>separating 3.5 and Pathfinder
No one ever writing about 5e says "key feats" or "skills to focus on". No one ever writing about 4e says easy mode is wizards only, and they definitely don't say monks only is the nightmare mode.
This is clearly in reference to 3.pf.
>>47647778
Well, fuck.
/Thread, I guess
Fighter
Fighter
Fighter
Fighter
Barbarian
Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
>>47647820
How did i manage to trigger you this much on some subtle differences?
>>47647960
otherwise
>>47647999
I don't really know what you're talking about, but he's right. Monks are medicre at worst in 5e and actually kinda good in 4e, so realistically speaking this guy could only have been talking about 3e or Pathfinder.
>>47643322
In 3.5:
Tough, hard-hitting melee character
Problem-solver or two: rogue, bard, mage
Somebody who can provide healing in emergency situations and be useful in the meantime, preferably cleric but druid can work, at lower levels even bard/ranger/paladin might suffice.
So yeah, fighter+wizard+rogue+cleric obviously works exceptionally well.
>>47643322
Better question is, what does the ideal DnD anti-party consist of?Answer: Nine cavalier wraiths.
>>47647960
>4 Fighters.
>ONLY 1 Barbarian.
Nigga get gud. If you're not going full Cimmerian, you might as well go home. All Barbarian parties are fun as hell.
>>47643322
One halfling rogue, 13 dwarves of arrosted fighting classes, and a powergamey wizard that can't make it to every session.
>>47648032
This man is correct.
>>47648105
Lol if you think you need a melee character and not just wildshape druid, summoner wizard, generalist wizard, & cleric. 3.5 was the worst edition for party balance.
>>47647960
>>47648419
>not all monk party
plebs
>>47648447
Now now now, the proper phrase is "a wizard that appears precisely when he needs to"
>>47646504
>OD&D
>dwarf has classes
?
>>47643322
Wizard
Cleric
Druid
(Any)
>>47643545
pretty much this
assuming the hobbit is a traps/locks/stealth character, and the elf is a ranged-expert ranger/druid type character
>>47648628
Damn, that's an on-point looking party.
>>47648768
Read your LBB's anon.
True race-as-class didn't come along until the white box if I'm not mistaken.
Men & Magic simply restricted dwarves to the fighter class, while Supplement I allowed them to become thieves or fighter thieves.
4x Binder
I'm not even kidding, that was a trip of a campaign.
>>47643322
Overly complicated plans
Rules Minutiae
Stupid Jokes
Snacks
One main character, who uses swords and a small amount of magic.
His pure weapons foil.
An aloof elf with bows, swords, and magic.
The dwarf, who offers nothing except jokes and murder.
The huge breasted healer woman who's only real job is to throw her ankles behind her head and take the main character's cock.
And finally, the wizard who could easily break the entire campaign and then die while withholding critical information that could easily skip half the story if he would utter it.
>>47645660
Are you actually concerned someone's gonna try to cuck/fuck you because of a joke on the Internet? Who the fuck do you play with anon?
>>47643470
Don't you fucking sleep?
>>47643322
1 or 2 frontlines, someone who can make a barrier and soak hits. Sometimes neat shields like Paladins or Fighters, sometimes mix a Rogue or an Inquisitor in.
1 ranged DPR, your party's main source of damage. Bows are obviously a choice here, plenty of other options though.
1 support, the simple way to cover this is a healer like a Cleric, but a Bard works too and really anyone who can cleans debuffs can suit here and maybe also be a frontlines.
1 Wizard.
A guy to soak hits.
A guy who can deal damage from afar.
A guy who can direct an opponent's action.
A guy who can heal damage and lend support.
That's all you really need.
Cute grill life cleric who doesn't really understand how to play the game but does her best (current party actually has exactly this and it's amazing)
wizard of some sort, either old bumbling man wizard or arrogant elf wizard or something like that
sneaky chaotic rogue of some sort, not a murdery dickstabbing rogue but the rather bro "out for only themselves and their close firends" rogue
fat bearded bro playing a dwarf fighter/barbarian
"the funny guy" playing a bard
me playing a paladin
