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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #868: Undead Union Edition
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>Google Drive
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>Last Thread
>>47538244
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Basilisk

Ronin
Nonaffiliated
Sword Without a Master
Light Footed Metal Man 100
Ninja Slayer 400
Gennosuke’s Doujutsu 1400
Ninja Gear
Sneaky, Sneaky 1200
Compulsive Gloating 1000

Don't know the setting but I think I have a nice balance of not getting in trouble and power.

Took Ronin as Ninja Slayer is a good capstone and Light Footed Metal Man is pretty great. Increase in speed and agility the more armour I'm wearing is great, means I can get some big clunkyass armour and it'd be fine. Speedster hijinks in power armour and so on.

Ninja Slayer makes it more difficult for people to use special abilities and sneak up on me and adds another danger sense to the pile.

Gennosuke’s Doujutsu lets me turn the aggression of those attacking me back on themself which is ridiculously useful when dealing with people more physically powerful than me. Doesn't happen often but in Superhero settings this potentially gets pretty great. The sort of thing you don't use often but it saves you whenever you do.

Drawbacks mean I'm totally unsubtle and am needlessly boastful. With my ridiculous armoured agility and my ability to force fair fights out of dirty fighters this shouldn't matter that much. Will probably set myself up as some sort of big-headed warlord Brian Blessed type. May actually be fun.
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>>47545488
Reminder that the gods of light are racist jerks for keeping the undead man down.
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>>47545488
>Justice is a Skeleton
>Secundo is a Skeleton three times over

Fair Rights for Undead!

But seriously. Someone wanna Toss Secundo?
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>>47545572
CATastrophe
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>>47545572
Austin Powers
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>>47545572
GENERIC SUGAR BOWL
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>>47545488
Also, for the Undead Union Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU513suJZzY

>>47545583
Already Been

>>47545584
That works.

>>47545588
TOO LATE MOTHERFUCKER!
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>>47545517
Daily reminder that in a setting with Gods of Light, you'd have to be a fucking moron to become undead. Unless you're in the Forgotten Realms.
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>>47545615
Just because there are good gods, doesn't mean the afterlife isn't shit, or that you can't have valid reasons for not wanting to go.
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>>47545615
I don't see it that way, care to give reasons for your thoughts? Especially since gods in most settings cant be assed to actually do shit.
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>>47545584
>>47545572
Austin Powers- A light hearted comedy series? With my Biological Monstrosities? This'll be fun
0/1100
Evil Son, Rolled for 18
Free Genre Savvy
Discount The Only Competent One In The Whole Movie
Death Traps
Show Some Leg- Whythefucknot. I'm allowed Vanity Perks
Free Film Library
Evil Lair

Bad Teeth+100

Simple enough jump

And just for You Anon >>47545588
I'll do Sugar Bowl, since you've asked like three times and been too late each time.
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>>47545615
Johannes Cabal would like to disagree.

Granted he is pretty much guaranteed to go to hell eventually for selling his soul to the devil twice before scamming the devil to get it back but that is beside the point.
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>>47545794
I can't believe someone else on this board knows about that series of books.

If anything deserves a Jump, it's Johannes Cabal. Even just so I can go and annoy the man.

On a side note, for those interested, Zootopia Jump is about 60% completed. It's all in paper notes at the moment, otherwise I'd be posting it. I just need a Capstone Perk for a few backgrounds, some more items to pad out the section, and then I've just got to make it all pretty looking.
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>>47545783
>>47545588
Generic Sugar Bowl- Oh Gods. It's so....bright, and happy and...Cheerful. Now I know what Gnarl felt like in Overlord 1.
0/1400
Rolled for Free Pick, and I legitimately do not care!
Drop-in, Rolled for 15
Free What I Had To Do
Anti-Censor- Fucking Worth It. You Cheerful Cunts.

Grouchy+200- So how I already feel about this hell hole?
Graceless+200
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So, is anyone working on Killer is Dead jump? Because it's underappreciated game.

Also, how about Azure Striker Gunvolt?
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What are some good jumps to get mind control/illusion resistance/immunity

Pic Unrelated though it is my primary combat style in low powered settings
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>>47545998
No, because it's pretty...vague? It's got similar problems to bloodborne before it was made, that nobody really knew jack shit about it beyond a whole lot of vagary and it takes place over a pretty short timescale.
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>>47546107
One of the rewards in the The World Ends with You jump is Mental Fortress, which apparently grants complete immunity to all mental shenanigans you don't like.
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>>47546107
DC and Kirby have good ones, Naruto has one for illusions.
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>>47546107
young justice as incomprehensible
dune if you don't mind being an abomination
psychonauts has astral layers
samurai has a good one
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>>47546220
samurai jack, sorry
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>>47546220
astral layers isn't immunity its ablative armor read it again
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>>47545998
I... could see myself trying to write a Killer is Dead jump. If and only if I ever finish the Madworld jump I'm stumbling over right now.
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Are there any other perks out there similar to Overlord's "Use Any Magic Item" perk?
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>>47546107
The Helm of Xorn + Brains from Marvel grants you an internalized version, rendering you immune to mind control.
Remember! You can combine perks in that jump and it's super useful.

As for illusions, although that would render you immune to direct mental fuckery, you can also get around light projections with alternate senses, such as force sight from Star Wars, scent from Secret of Evermore, or even aura or magical sensing depending on what the source is and what it's pretending to be. Basically if your eyes ping "yes" and your thirteen other senses ping "no", you're probably dealing with a projection of some kind.
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>>47545960
I desire more Tosses. More worlds unto which I will Destroy. Endless Plagues
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>>47546280
Warhammer 40K, Imperium.

Death to the False Emperor.
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>>47546280
Generic Sugar Bowl?
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>>47546289
>40k imperium

It shall be Done.

>>47546292
I did that like 20 minutes ago, look up.
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>>47546292
Already went there, anon >>47545960.
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>>47546280
Crypt of the Necrodancer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ltZmI5LQw
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>>47546260
>Remember! You can combine perks in that jump and it's super useful.

Wrong.
Jumpmaker-approved interactions are the only thing allowed.
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>>47546375
fool
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>>47546313
Still hoping for Smite one day.
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>>47546375
Would you rather have nothing?

Because most Jumps don't even give you /that/.
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>>47546405
Then suggest it before other people do. Like I've said repeatedly. I just accept tosses
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>>47546375
And if you want an opinion on a combo, just ask. I'm still here.
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>>47546280
twilight just because
bleach because everyone theres making grand boasts for no reason
that banned jump with the colorful inhabitants
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>>47546434
Well does Helm of Xorn + Brains work like this anon said>>47546260
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>>47546434
Looks like the shitposter(s) are deciding you're the next target.

I'm sorry Marvel.
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>>47546460
Yes, I've ruled that before and am pretty sure it's even in the notes. It's still just direct mind control though, not pheromones/nanites or the like.
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>>47546280
Fall from heaven.
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>>47546460
I... got the combo from the list of approved combinations Marvel Anon posted, so, unless Marvel went and changed his mind, it should.

Speaking of, I wish I'd saved that thing for times like this.
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>>47546473
Or, ya know, literally almost ALL of them.

In fact, the Marvel jump is the ONLY one I can recall HAVING this feature.
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>>47546434
with i take kinesis for colored jell-o manipulation can i combine it with power armor for jell-o armor? i figured the flight and energy parts of that would work kind of like how luffy can fly and robs rokugan work.
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>>47546516
I'm pretty sure It's on the drive
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>>47546506
So, psionic bullshit, not sense-fuckery bullshit.

Sounds good to me.
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>>47546516
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>>47546532
That's weird, and I don't know who those people are, but in theory, sure.
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>>47546434
Could I take Regeneration + Speed + Energy (Mana) to have really fast regeneration of magical energy?
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>>47545960
>>47546289
40k Imperium- So we return to this God forsaken Galaxy
0/2500
Drop-in
Rolled for....Holy Terra- Hold On, let me Laugh.
Free Pilot
Discount Navigator
Psyker(Biomancy), Alpha Class- An Alpha Class Psyker? That's not suspicious.
Discount Viator of Nullspace
Faith Powers
Free Multifunction Data Slate
STC Printer- I know I could use this to help people. But doing otherwise will make me giggle
Dosh

The Grim Darknes of the Present+0- What's That? Commorragh came down with a case of "endless plagues, and biological monstrosities"? Too bad
Hunted+400- What else is new?
Marked+400- See Above
Warp Currents+200
Dark Millenium+500-160 Years, great

NEXT!
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>>47546531
You're trying to argue logically with him.

He's not interested in a logical argument, he's interested in trying to drive people away.
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>>47538282
I wasn't here to respond to this last thread. That said, I'm responding now.

Interjump balance isn't something we usually support. Moreover, you say that as if it some how counters the argument; you'd still have to jump through those hoops, you just said 'well, yeah, but the average jumper is powerful enough to do that!'

I disagree with arbitrary caps on abilities, that jumpers have to invest their own effort to achieve rather than just pay cp for it, on principal.

Furthermore, the argument that because we have things from other jumps that would make it more achievable as and thus that it should be hard limited is nonsense to me. That's like giving us a technology perk and saying 'you're not allowed to use this to make anything significantly better than what already exists in a given setting.'
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>>47546568
Like I said last time, i think it's squirrelly but yes. Sorry, haven't had time to update the combo notes.
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>>47546578
Brutal Legend
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>>47546651
I can jam to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWTPhzUuA9A
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>>47546566
there are some really weird powers out there. i choose jell-o because it's not that abundant
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>>47546626
Unless we get an alt form of our body in sword of the stars that it doesn't even matter, but limiting what jumpers can do in a jump with what you've given them never flies well.

It always leads to salt and more even more powergaming than what's being prevented. If you look back at the history of Raildex in this thread, the reason there's so much wank about Esper powers is because Reptoid made a ruling that we can never achieve Level 6.

So everyone forever decided to just completely abandon that idea and instead figured out how to achieve power by other means, and eventually, how to achieve Level 6 anyway mostly just to spite him. Reptoid could have made further rulings banning all the other stuff that people figured out to become powerful, but that's even more obviously shitty since all of it's stuff born from people's creativity, and supported by knowledge of the universe's metaphysics, and perks from other jumps.
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>>47546626
>Interjump balance isn't something we usually support.

And yet people keep asking for shit to stand on par with shit offered in other jumps, or for jumpmakers to add shit "because X jump has it so why the fuck are you not, faggot."
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>>47546718
Point at someone who's done that. I honestly doubt they actually exist.
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>>47546718
That argument already ate up two threads. Whatever moral stand you think you're making, it isn't worth involving yourself with dolphingate up there.
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>>47546645
Kinesis (Self)+Shapeshifting+Healing+Speed
and
Kinesis (Self)+Shapeshifting+Healing+Brains
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>>47546434
Ok, so this is a weird combo, but I like the flavor.
If I take Adamantine X, and import my Honedge as a Partner with Shapeshifting, may I make it so she can shift between Adamantine blades and other material mods?
It seems like that would be cool, but I do have back up plans if that's not ok.
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>>47546745
>That argument already ate up two threads.
You mean the argument about Speedforce?

The talk about Suul'ka hasn't run its course nearly as hard, and it's got more legs to stand on anyway.
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>>47546745
>Dolphingate
...really?
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>>47546744
Just like multiple shitposters don't exist, right?

Give me a moment with 4plebs, I remember at least two arguments where Asura's Wrath's existence was used to argue for why an ability shouldn't be nerfed.
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>>47546718
That's just blatantly false. Where are these guys that outright demand jump parity? Have we seen them in the last dozen or so threads? If you point at one guy a hundred threads ago, that's not solid ground to base an argument off of.
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>>47546712
>but limiting what jumpers can do never flies well

Fixed.
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>>47546778
No, they would need to buy the Adamantium if it's "them" .

>>47546753
Would get you nigh-total control of yourself very fast and with even greater precision, respectively.
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>>47546808
Yes really. I'm giving them snazzy names now.
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>>47546626
We totally support inter-jump balance, though. That's why we do End Jumps when a setting's powers will render everything else in the chain meaningless. You might not like it, but there's well-established precedent.

Also, Intra-Jump balance is totally a thing, and if one race has the potential to become a God capable of enslaving entire civilizations and ascending to cosmic horror, and the others don't come close to that, then you really can't make that race expensive enough to balance it with the others.
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>>47546651
>>47546578
Brutal Legend- A World Forged by the God's Of Metal. I can jam to this.
0/1400
Tainted Coil- The Leader is voiced by Tim Curry. What's not to like? Sure I'm going to kill him, come on man.
Free Boiling Rage
Discount Power of Pain
Discount Children of the Grave
Brutal Legend:The Album
What's an Engineer?
Right Now! Let's Go!
Skin of Metal
Custom Guitar

Land Locked+200- Time for Anti-Air Units. And some really fast Monsters
Hair Metal+200- I am going to kill Lionwhyte myself
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>>47546836
Jumpers are fine with being limited to what's actually fucking possible given what they have at their disposal, it's when you tell them, 'No, you can't use it like this, and you aren't allowed to develop these abilities no matter what you do even if the setting has precedent for it, especially because the setting has precedent for it!' that they get pissy.
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>>47546858
>We totally support inter-jump balance, though.
Not part of this conversation, I don't even necessarily disagree with you, but don't speak for me or other people and assume you know what the consensus is.
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>>47546872
... that picture is badass and I am saving it.
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>>47546901
Nah.

Even then you get people whining about being limited. They just are not well received here, at all.
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>>47546929
I used it for what the filename indicates.

I wanted to play a Skeleton, and it was a Pirates game. GM ran with it.
He was a serious captain, with an actual name.
Everyone called him "captain bones" anyway.
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>>47546131
Does that mean that when Azure Striker Gunvolt 2 comes out in english, there's a chance for that series to also have a jump?

>>47546248
Thank so much
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>>47546846
A'ight, I'll just wait for Goblin Made Sword in HP.
Thanks for the answer, it helped me work out the budget.
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>>47546940
No, you're just the shitposter.
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>>47546375
>Imagination isn't allowed!
>It doesn't belong in this single player imagination game!
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Suul'ka isn't even powerful enough compared to what a jumper with a few tech and magic perks is capable of making to justify locking it in the first place.
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>>47546846
At the risk of looking like a powergrabby pedantic fuck, which to be honest I am, the description of the Armor+Strength+Toughness+Energy+Flight combo in the Notes says you "basically" have your choice of Stark's suits.

How much difference is there between whatever suit any given Jumper might go with and the real Stark-constructed deal? That is, are they really as strong/fast/durable/etc as their counterpart?

I'm finding it difficult to justify going with anything other than that combo, considering what even the weaker suits can do, so I'm asking now before I finish my build.
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>>47546990
Honestly, I feel like an idiot for even asking the question in the first place. All I wanted to know was how much to price it, instead I triggered an argument about inter-jump balance and power restriction and all sorts of annoying things.
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The time has finally come. Let's rock.

+1000cp

Johto
Age 13
Pikachu (free)
Small Town -50 (950)

Perks
Physical Fitness (Free)
Freerunning -100 (850)
Mechanic -150d (700)
Survival Training -100 (600)
Combat Training -100 (500)
Champ In The Making -300 (200)

Items
Thrust Pack -100 (100)
Wingsuit -50 (50)
50k Pokedosh -50 (0)
Motorcycle -100 (-100)

Drawbacks
Swarmed +100 (0)

Couldn't decide on a capstone forever so I opted to just not take one and hoard perks and stuff I probably wouldn't take otherwise. Now post motorcycles
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So, what exactly counts as Dying in Bleach jump?

If I use some way to separate my soul from my body, then cut the chain of fate and let myself turn hollow, does that count as death? I mean, I separated the chain myself and still remain conscious this whole time as the soul... and then I can just use a Gigai if I want to, although I am a Hollow.

Why? Because this would allow for one to develop somewhat unique powers as each Hollow seems to develop kinda unique ones, one would think, as they are manifestations of the heart. That allows one to just... ignore the bad character creation choices in that jump and just enjoy the setting. And Ghost Mexico. with Ghost Mexicans and Ghost Tacos and Ghost Burritos.

Ghost Arriva!
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>>47546990
It was described as planet busting psychic power and galaxy spanning mind control man. Dunno what perks you've been taking. And even then, you can't use having been t a bunch of jumps and gaining power across them to justify things in a single jump.

>>47547009
Well, does any other race in the series have anything on this level? If not, it seems like it's best to just not offer the full thing.
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>>47546434
I am sorry to ask this but I am curious about a combo I bought for a companion. I tried to make force field Generation with Energy + toughness + Strength. I was wondering if that would put her on the level of Invisible woman for the strength of her force fields. I was also wondering if she could learn to do other tricks that the invisible woman could do like hitting people with force fields and creating force bubbles in small spaces then expanding them eventually?
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>>47546992
It's the same as a given suit. That clause is only in there so nobody went and researched some one-off suit Richards, Stark, Strange, and everyone else built to punch Galactus in the dick powered by the Ultimate Nullifier or something. If you use it to get the standard suit, or the recon one, or War Machine, or whatever, it's the same as what he's using.
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>>47546990
In-jump balance, not inter-jump balance.

If Suul'ka is better than every other option in the jump by magnitudes to the point where when you try to put a CP cost on it it's in the triple digits, you either limit it or just don't offer it at all.
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>>47547027
The "I send you to reincarnate/destroy your soul" kind of death, I think.
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>>47546927
But that is the consensus. End Jumps are a thing, Jumps blocking off ludicrously overpowered options unless you take the End Jump option are a thing. We haven't banned them or removed them. Therefore, consensus is that it's legitimate.
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>>47547063
>what is SMT
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>>47547045
Add Kinesis (for the ability to move them, expand and contract them, and Shapeshifting if you're changing their shapes) and then you're about there. As of the combo you've made, you can just make static strong forcefields.
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>>47547063
Do you mean quadruple digits?
Because triple digits would mean the standard 100-800 point things.
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>>47546872
I took Herald/Fiend/Vermin Tribrid in SMT solely to get that look with wings.
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>>47547100
... I did mean quadruple digits, FUCK.

That just killed my argument.
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>>47547063
Quadruple digits? Most perks are in the triples.
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>>47547077
Stop claiming to have the consensus. You can argue in favor of whatever you want, stop assuming everyone else agrees with you as the basis of you argument.
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Alright, I'm going to put my two cents in here, been a while since I played Sword of the Stars so my memory might be wrong, but if I recall correctly the Suul'ka weren't even the biggest fishes in the pond. In fact, no one has mentioned this, but the Liir rebelled against them and WON. In fact, they killed a lot of them with a bio weapon. Are they incredibly powerful? Yes. Are they omnipotent? No. Should they be allowed? I don't know, I don't care. But I wanted to clear it up that these guys are NOT all powerful, and they have been beaten, even by their supposedly inferior slaves.
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>>47547043
>Well, does any other race in the series have anything on this level? If not, it seems like it's best to just not offer the full thing.
Not really. There are the Specters, but they're a random event caused by overuse of Nodespace technology (one of the types of FTL in the game). They're basically angry Warp entities that are pissed you're using their dimension for travel purposes. There's also the System Killer, who eats suns, but again, not playable. The strongest psychic races you can play other than the Liir are the Morrigi, who get pretty strong but don't have the immortality that allows Liir to go Suul'ka, and the Zuul, who are actually the creations of one of the Suul'ka and therefore can channel their power at a lesser level.
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>>47547178
Seems like you have the answer then. Just say you can't grow to be a Suul'ka and leave it at that.
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>>47547060
I... okay then.
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>>47547087
>what is In Jump Balance

SMT Anon felt that those were balanced for his jump and as we can see fucking everybody and their mother flocked to those options so that's his choice to make. One jump shouldn't follow another jump's guidelines, because then we just start getting bland, standardized templates.

Like Mib's.
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>>47547063
Discounting the typo, I'm just going to disagree outright. This argument was never about in-jump balance, otherwise being a Liir that could eventually progress to Suul'ka would be something tacitly accepted. The only reason I want it blocked is because of interjump balance.
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>>47547174
The "bio weapon" was actually another Liir, not a plague or anything like that. The Black, a Liiran Grand Elder who managed to avoid the madness of the Suul'ka and instead focused his efforts on hunting them down and assassinating them. He fought them one on one after isolating them from contact with the other Lords of Winter, so they're still pretty big badasses. And yes, the lore does like to drop hints that there are older and more terrible creatures out there than the Suul'ka, but we never see them.
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>>47547234
Really? So the other races on offer are going to manage to be balanced against this then? Because that's what in jump balance is.
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>>47547094
Well it's for a companion so I had 300 cp to work with. I did the best I could. I can work with static force fields.
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>>47547268
Obviously. Sword of the Stars is a video game, the races are already balanced.
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>>47547296
You've never played the games then. Especially 2.
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>>47547073
Ah, so only if Quincy's kill me or I get killed as a hollow/Shinigami?

Alright. Time to kick back in Ghost Mexico and become Vasto Lorde and then consider becoming an Arrancar in the future maybe...
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>>47547211
I'm just surprised no one's done anything silly with Demon Summoner

Really, it's getting to the point I'm starting to think everyone has somehow overlooked the bolded text underneath the Demon background.
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>>47547296
Give us some examples of what is on the level of the Suul'ka then. You're arguing that it is balanced in jump so obviously you have some evidence right? If you can't actually give examples we'll assume you are talking out of your ass.
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>>47547330
. . . what does it say?
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>>47546420
I keep missing the opportunity, or being a post or two too late. Doesn't really matter.
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>>47547330
In fairness SMTAnon, it's not exactly surprising to see people focus on the whole "DEMON LORD OF EVIL" or "SUPER ANGEL", and so on and so forth, rather than the less flashy but still awesome tricks.
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>>47547356
Underneath, as in, literally the next paragraph. You can just look at it yourself if you're worried it's some sneaky hidden text shit.
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>>47547009
Not your fault. Everyone here has to deal with that guy.
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>>47547330
I have Companions in one of each origin for just that reason, while I myself just kinda... focused on the Magatama perk.

But on a question - the Dormant Power 'perk boosts' seem to also modify backgrounds a tad. I'm assuming then, slightly, that using a perk-sharing power with Dormant Power won't work to boost a Companion's perk?

If it doesn't, that's gonna put a damper on some plans but it's fine. just need a clarification.
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>>47547021
>Pikachu
Well
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>>47547211
My opinion is Jump Maker has final say on his jump

As long as it is Jump Compliant do whatever you feel fits the tone of the setting

Deliberately OverPowered settings should be End Jumps
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Do you anons use shapeshifting and lovemaking perks in combat?

How do you anons fight?
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>>47547378
>Abilities and items that refer to demons will instead apply to all inhuman supernatural beings
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>>47547332
Pretty much every other faction is as dangerous as the Suul'ka with their own end game shit. The Suul'ka are individually powerful, but the assumption of being able to chose a race in Sword of the Stars is which one you're going to be leading.
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>>47547021
Speaking of Pokemon, why exactly can you only take it as a first jump? Seems like a stupid rule to me.
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>>47547330
People here don't have class, mang. I'm going with my favorites and that's all.
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>>47547411
I...I don´t know how THAT didn´t occur to me before.
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>>47547424
No, give examples. What is on the level of the Suul'Ka? You keep being vague and relying on gameplay conceits, but you've given zero actual proof of your statement.
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>>47547428
It's an artifact.

Like every other of QS's rules, you can tell it to piss off, but people here get defensive of that despite the fact we told the guy to fuck off.

Hypocrites.
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>>47547435
Since lovemaking perks seems to restricted if used only for womance.

Do you like explosions anon?
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>>47547411
>lovemaking perks
I thought lewd jumps were banned?
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>>47547411
Occasionally
I have an entire chain made for perversion and maximum lewd
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>>47547060
If I add shapeshifting to that person's combo could I basically get the Endo-Sym armor, or the latest one made of tiny hexagons?
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>>47547417
Wow everybody got caught up in the easy instant power that they missed the most exploitable option, that is is hilarious.
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>>47547411
>How do you fight
Speed Blitz and Beam Spam, with a meelee strategy of a few powerful, precise strikes.
>Do you use shapeshifting/lovemaking?
Used too on the former, but it exhausted me too much. For the latter...depends on who I'm fighting.
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>>47547467


they are everywhere, in 80's setting, in fallout ,in star trek and many more. I am surprised that breeding perks exist.

>>47547468

kewl
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>>47547407
>Well
What?
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>>47547489
Welp.

Time to cull the drive then.
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could you get the model prime iron man suit with the combo or would you need more perks for that
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>>47547484
>but it exhausted me too much

get stamina perks anon
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Jumpers!

With all the people discussing power bullshit, which of you made oddball builds?

Shopkeeper who roadtrips
What are ya buyin'?
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>>47547439
Hivers with their growth speed and unique FTL mechanics.
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>>47547501

needs more perks for hugging and holding hands, not enough soft romance.
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>>47547500
You picked the most generic of all pokemon, is all.
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can you use the fma combination to make adamantine threads for later
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>>47547528
So that's one. What about all the other races?
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>>47547411
I use combat perks while making love, does that count? I only use sex appeal as a distraction in fights, though.
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>>47547528
That only applies to the civilization, is there anything that can match up to the Suul'ka on an individual level?
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>>47547549
Once adamantine is solid, you can no longer manipulate it.
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>>47547540
>Hold Hands
>Soft Romance
Choose one anon
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>>47547411
The most I've ever done is use extremely high end shapeshifting to dodge without actually moving from my position or changing my stance.

I don't have any lovemaking perks.
Not a one.
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>>47547527
I'm currently going for a 'Santa/Craftsman' build.
Toys, weapons, toys disguised as weapons, weapons disguised as toys, etc.
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>>47547541
I also picked that one, Pokemon Yellow was my first Pokemon game.
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>>47547540
>Holding hands
ANON THIS IS A BLUE BOARD.
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no what i meant was could i make threads of it to make a cloak or clothes out of adamantine
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>>47547402
It won't, sorry.
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>>47547561
This. You can't cart around an entire civilisation like you can a planet busting space whale alt form.
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>>47547549
What are you making the adamantine threads out of?
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>>47547411
I don't, but it's a favorite tactic of one of my Companions. Ever since Forgotten Realms she's taken shapeshifting to a whole new level. She's since added aphrodisiac saliva and a stretchy tongue to the mix. She's makes for an effective, non-lethal infiltrator.

I prefer to dive right into melee. Holding a chainsword in one hand and tossing magic spells with the other. Of course, sometimes I get bored and mix things up a bit. Doors are quite fun as an improvised weapons. Cover Equals Concealment from Black Lagoon makes them supremely effective.
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>>47547557
Dude, you're making a fucking ass of yourself. Every race has its strong points, Suul'ka are powerful individuals but 7 planet busting psychic space squid-dolphins aren't more powerful than another interstellar empire's entire fucking fleet.
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>>47547611
Fuck.

So it's pretty much going to be "Capstones and Dormant Power" for all of their builds.

Sorry for being boring.
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i thought that i could get hercules to let me see his hammer for a bit then once i have the formula or atomic make up of it i could go from there
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>>47547615
Dude, you don't get to keep your body in successive jumps as an alt form unless it's explicitly given to you.
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>>47547615
Hey SMTAnon, I have a question to ask you. Is there anyway to speed up the bullet hell attack that the Gun Bullet Children and Vampires have? As useful as unleashing a massive stream of bullets is, combat will be in a 3D environment rather than 2D, so it won't that hard to dodge.
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We're getting to the point where he starts screaming 'cheaters!' again.
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>>47547634
And which one is more useful to the jumper? You can't bring billions of people, entire planet's of infrastructure and resources along between jumps. You can bring your own body along.
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>>47547651
Give them all Theme Music and I'll forgive you.
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All I wanted was to introduce the thread to a neat sci-fi IP that I liked. How did it come to this?
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>>47547634
You still haven't given any more examples then one rather dubious one. Come on man, if you really think the Suul'ka aren't unbalanced, show us why. Citing an entire civilisation doesn't matter, you need to show what each race could have on offer to purchase in jump that's on the level of the Suul'ka. Do they have some sort of mega big ship or weapon? Like a deathstar? Maybe some super great technology like that Paragon stuff in ACU?
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>>47547541
Ah, yeah. I've been mulling over all sorts of pokemon as starters for every which-way reason for months now and at the end of it all I decided to just go with what kid-me would have wanted. Even sitting here typing this post up I've deleted like 20 starter picks I had been thinking of, but pikachu has always felt like a strong pick, though it conflicted me being such a plain pick. But for a first jump, first chain, it just feels right.
>>47547597
fuck yeah yellow
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>>47547317

Is 2 that bad? Everyone said it was super bad when it came out but I heard it got patched down the line.
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>>47547706
This is Jumpchain. We literally cannot go a single thread without someone shitting on everyone else.
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>>47547706
See >>47547385

Don't let him get to you. Just ignore him and make your jump. All the rest of us will appreciate it.
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>>47547688
>What is the Light of Terra
>The city from 1984
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>>47547706
Don't sweat the flamewars, anon. SOTS is indeed a neat sci-fi IP, and I look forward to your jump.
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>>47547706
Because you can't decide on whether Suul'ka should be limited or not. You've sat there and let people argue when you have the power to end the argument or at least discuss it with people. Without you, all people can do is spin their wheels against each other.

>>47547727
It is baaaad. It's just...crashes, bugs, awful gameplay, BORING gameplay (Mostly) and so on. The patches just make more problems and the guys in charge were gigantic cunts to anyone that disagreed with them.
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>>47547706
You're fine anon. Just power on through! STAY DETERMINED! AND HAVE A KAMEN RIDER THUMBS UP!
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>>47547738
Him being the guy (You) that thinks everyone who disagrees with him is one guy? Yeah, no. Get out you fucking shitstain.
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>>47547679
I know right?

I should just buck up and accept that we're going to give ourselves free stuff and flagrantly defy jumpchain conventions, and then turn around and use that as basis for a jump maker needing to set in place new rules that we definitely will follow and not flagrantly break like we already do other rules, because if we don't put those rules in place, someone might acquire power legitimately through time and effort!

We can't allow that!
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>>47547696
I can do that.

But hot damn that 8-Forked Drunkard's Shadow boost.
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>>47547780
>Guy quoted the last post in the argument last thread, mentioning he had to go leave before he could reply, and continues his argument from last thread about this same topic.
>Noooo it's a new guy!
I shouldn't reply, but goddamn, you're not even trying.
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>>47547706
Don't worry about it. Most of the Jumpmakers catch some kind of shit for one reason or another. Go ahead and make your Jump. Most of us will appreciate the effort and give honest criticism.
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>>47547759
That reminds me, I should check out how the MOO reboot is coming along. Hopefully they won't fuck it up. 1 was good, 2 was great, but 3... was neither of those things.
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>>47547759
Yeah, you're probably right. So, okay: No Suul'ka. You can get really strong, but that's just normal Liir power growth taken to its extremes like the Black has. To go full Suul'ka requires a proper state of mind, so you'll never go crazy enough to start eating planets. Does that work?
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>>47547809
It's terrible and casualized.

About the only thing you might like is how flirty the cats are.
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>>47547814
Fine by me. We can focus on the rest of the cool stuff in setting now.
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>>47547677
If you're a GBC, skip to the next step. If you're a Vampire, git gud at the whole "turn your bullets into needles" thing until every single one of your shots is that fast.

Then, stack metamagic and blanket magic/spellcasting-enhancing Perks to boost all of your bullet's attributes and your ability to fire them in general.

It's not great, but it's better than nothing.
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>>47547706
SEE
>>47547410
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>>47547814
You have my sword. I'm not sorry.
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>>47547814
Works for me.
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>>47547814
I'll accept it. I don't agree, but now it's settled which side you're on and how this setting should be treated.
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>>47547824
Works for me. Also, if I may ask, does pain caused by drawbacks count for the Martyr ability?
>>47547814
DO IT ANON! I BELIEVE IN YOU!
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>>47547830
Nor should you be.
I've got a spare axe he can borrow, but if touches my waifu, Imma gut 'im.
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>>47547814
I hope you're ready for the consequences.

>>47547859
Like a fucked out whore?
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So Persona, Franken Fran, and Firefly give some psychology perks. Are there any other jumps?
I kinda want to be the the best galactic Psychiatrist.
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>>47547865
I'd say so, yes.
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>>47547899
>you didn't do what I wanted, so I WILL throw a temper tantrum
Why can't you go bother CYOAG? They'll like you there.
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>>47547907
I don't have any specifics off the top of my head, but Charisma, Sense Motive, and Planning perks are good side angles.
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>>47547677
> combat will be in a 3D environment rather than 2D, so it won't that hard to dodge.

Isn't that just like... an interface thing? In-universe I assume it's as hard to deal with as the gameplay/fluff implies. Like you can dodge in three dimensions but that pattern of knives or exploding blood bullets converging on you is also a three-dimensional clusterfuck.
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Who are the biggest threats to show up in Young Justice?
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>>47547944
I don't care about the reasoning behind why an arbitrary limit is imposed, as a jumper, I only see those as challenges to be overcome and looked at with disdain. Arbitrary limits are garbage, fuck you for defending them.
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>>47547984
I guess so, but the attack patterns seem to correlate more to a 2D battlefield, and I'm not sure how you could change it to 3D without losing at least SOME of the threat.
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>>47548040
Imagine a cone instead of a ray
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>>47547620
>Doors are quite fun as an improvised weapons.

Couldn't agree more.
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>>47547987
It's you, anon.
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>>47546434
How much of a boost to thinking speed does Brains+Speed give you?
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>>47547907
Slice of Life has a pretty good one.
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>>47548018
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it. But I'd rather see an arbitrary limit than the ability not offered at all. More importantly? Threatening "consequences" against a Jumpmaker because he does something you don't like makes you garbage, and fuck you for trying to intimidate our content creators to get your way.
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>>47547987
The Main Man, Green Beetle, Black Beetle, and Mongul and his Warworld.

Beetles are the kind of thing that fights on par with a Green lantern, and Green Beetle is a Martian besides. Warworld is a battle moon with armies of attack drones, and Mongul and Lobo are more than capable of going mano y mano with Superman, though they lack his diversity of abilities.
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>>47547984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ngfE279uk
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>>47548064
Hmm, fair enough. All right, thanks anon, that's actually pretty helpful, I hadn't thought of that.
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>>47548082
Just let him rot.
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>>47547987
>>47548089
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard Darkseid showed up as well?
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>>47548121
Only if you fake the drawback, right?
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>>47548082
Speaking of, did we accidentally chase of DungeonBuilderAnon? Or is he still here?
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KOTOR Anon, if you're around, I've got two questions on Aberrant from the Star Wars KOTOR jump:

1. Post-jump, the perk changes from a passive, personal, defensive ability to an active, ranged, offensive ability. Is that supposed to apply when we visit your other SW jumps, or should it have the original in-jump effect?

2. WHY does it change post-jump from a passive, personal, defensive ability to an active, ranged, offensive ability?
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>>47547664
As someone who's been around the thread since double digits, no, you're just an idiot. You always get to keep significantly inhuman forms as alt forms, and human ones are up to fanwank. What you're doing is akin to whining about people having their companions active in a jump without importing them. A misconception kinda possible if you come in with little information but completely false. Only instead of actually accepting it's wrong when literally everyone replying to you tells you you're mistaken you double down and insult them. So kindly shut up and quit being an ignorant buffoon.
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>>47548143
He said earlier he was working on bosses and minions without his name on.
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>>47548121
>>47548141
No, he's the guy that supplies tech to the Light. I just kind of forgot about him because he was a background player for the whole show.
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>>47548141
Not sure. If I recall, Vandal Savage was working for Darkseid all along or something, but then the show got cancelled. He'll be much less powerful than comic/drawback Darkseid though, so you won't be entirely screwed even if I'm right-
>>47548177
Ah, so I was right. There you have it.
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>>47548018
Good for you Anon breakthrough all limitations

Do whatever you want Jumpchain is a single player experience

What you do in your chain doesn't effect anyone but you
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>>47547094
By the way, since Brains seems to be modeled after Peter Parker, how smart would you be with 2-3 purchases? What if you went batshit and purchased 16?
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>>47548082
The consequences of an arbitrary limit are en eternity of people circumventing the ruling directly, as is their right, or wanking stupid numbers of solutions to achieve the same thing or even more through roundabout methods.

The jump maker shouldn't have put the limit in place, and the correct response is to ignore the rule or go around it, but definitely not to follow it.
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>>47547094
Say, since Brains seems to be modeled after Peter Parker, how smart would 2-3 purchases make you? What if you went batshit and purchased 10?
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>>47548154
That's wank though. Please stop pushing your wank as canon.
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I've decided my JumpChain cannot be complete without a Dullahan on my team. Besides Ragnarok Online, what's a good place to pick one us?
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>>47548232
I agree. That's why I always give myself all the perks in a Jump. Fuck arbitrary limits!
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>>47548232
Wow, aren't you just a bundle of sunshine and encouragement.
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>>47547914

If you take the Midgard Serpent thing as a vampire, does that make you a GBC project escapee or something? And does it mess you up when using any of your magic, or only the Twilight of the Divine stuff?
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>>47548272
That's basically already accepted as jumpchain canon at this point by giving you free alt forms every jump.
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>>47548152
I just interpret it as working on other forms of psychics the same way it does on the force.
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>>47548232
... Yeah, you know what, fuck this and fuck you.

Dropping the Torchlight and Torchlight 2 jumps I was working on if this is the mentality I get to deal with.
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>>47548154
He's just gonna scream 'wank' and 'cheater' at you. There's no point in talking to him, this song and dance happened yesterday.
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>>47548018
You'd still be as powerful as one. The example I used was the Black, and given that he hunted down and killed most of the Suul'ka it feels safe to assume he's as strong as one. You just wouldn't have the nasty side of their powers. So still massive psychic power, just no mind-breaking civilizations or consuming worlds in your hunger or stuff like that. If anything it's probably a buff, Suul'ka need to eat other minds to fuel their powers, the Black doesn't.
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>>47548299
>Our resident shitposter shitposts.
>Anon blames all of us for it.
Just ignore him. Most people here don't think like that. We can't do anything about him, but that doesn't mean we need to be punished more than what we already are by him existing.
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>>47548272
Alright you do that Jump Chain is basically a glorified creative writing exercise so if that makes you happy do it
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>>47548299
Oh my god-he is but one man! Why must you bring ruin upon the many for the sins of one?!
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>>47548312
Okay, what. So how are you balancing an EVEN BETTER version of this power within the jump.
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>>47548283
That's a valid way of fluffing it.

Only the power given to you by the Serpent. The rest of your magic is a-ok to use as much as you'd like.
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>>47548299
I'm really hoping you're just trolling, because I hate the idea of someone actually letting one of our resident assholes win.
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>>47548265
Nightmare Before Christmas?
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>>47548272
You don't get to say this and then turn around and say it's acceptable to give yourself free alt-forms ever jump. It's literally the same fucking thing.
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>>47548299
Woah woah woah, hey man. Look up here.
>>47547804
Take a look at the picture too. It's quite relevant to a certain shitposter.
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Accepting another toss for Secundo.

My apologies, I fell asleep in my chair.
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>>47548312
Don't engage him. He cannot be reasoned with.
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>>47548339
Sorry, I'm phrasing it poorly. What I mean is, you'd be able to reach the same level of power, you'd just have slower growth due to not being a ravening psychic vampire addicted to the taste of dying consciousness. Same potential for power, lesser growth rate without the sort of mentality that can reap power from genocide.
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>>47548363
Not that anon, but that gal is cool as hell.
Who is she, and where can I get the tech on her stumps?
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>>47548312
Er...dude? You're kidding us right?


Ugh, could you at least tell us how you plan to make any other option in the jump as good as this "All the power, none of the downsides" one?
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>>47548232
>>47548299
Yeah, fuck this. I was going to try my hand at that Mummy jump that was abandoned a while ago, but I'm not putting up with this shithouse.

Place is a fucking cesspool now if this is what passes for the average poster. I don't care if people pull the "oh it's one guy" excuse because that's just a cheap lie by now to sweep all the problems under the rug.
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>>47548299
You know what, fuck off. We don't need any more whiny thin-skinned jumpmakers like you who'll throw a fit and leave their jumps half-finished like Jojo the moment thread does anything to hurt their precious feelings.
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>>47548386
Don't engage him, he can't be reasoned with.
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>>47548395
Now you, I don't believe for a second you're making any jumps. You sound like you're just gloating about the trouble you've caused.
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>>47548386
No, I got that. My question remains. How is this balanced against the other races which can't reach this level of power?
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>>47548301
Yeah, just wanted to get the one post in for posterity's sake. Letting him peddle his shit in a thread without someone explaining why he's an idiot is the sort of thing I'd like to avoid in case a new guy comes by and actually takes it at face value.
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>>47548382
Breaking Bad
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