Rep Your Warlord Edition
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>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
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>Forgeworld Book index
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>White Dwarves
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>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
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FIRST FOR THE PIMPMARINES!
>I2 orks
So I've never played a game of 40k, but I know the fluff a bit. I'm a bit confused as to how they balance armies vs the armies they are specifically fluffed against. An example of what I wanna know is how do they balance Grey Knights vs the daemons they are apparently so good at killing.
>>47530182
they kill the shit out of them
So, would a chapter taking inspiration from the lore of pic related be cool?
>>47530182
40k the game isnt balanced, at all. It is notorious for being unbalanced.
my current WIP as i attempt to convert a Praetor missle launcher into a Dominus.
The triple Earthshakers are a little too wide, though i could make it work. I'm instead thinking of cutting down the barrels and sticking them inside the missile housing.
>>47530207
Looks like meme garbage.Lamenters already exist
Is it just me or do stormravens seem incredibly cheesy
>Zooming fly up to your anti air tank
>Multi melta
>Explodes
>It's all ogre
>>47530330
Theyre good for a flyer. Flyers arent particularly cheesy though.
The real problem with the Stormraven is its ridiculous design. I built one a while back, and it was too embarrasingly stupid looking for me to consider using. So I chopped it up and made a piece of terrain out of it.
>>47530227
What the fuck is wrong with the Lamenters you insufferable fagatron?
I will fite you
>>47530477
If your favorite chapter doesnt share its name with a former Legion, you're a dicksucker.
>>47530215
Show this to WIP, its a better grounds then this to showcase work.
>>47530477
Lamenters are garbage white knights.
First for Ghostkeels being the best looking suit in the codex.
Fuck Riptides and their misproportioned boxy asses.
>>47530608
>whiteknight
pic related
>>47530576
yes because we always need more BLOOD amirite?
>>47530391
Fair point, flyers do tend to have pretty low av which balances it out i guess. I'm just quite salty after someone brought one to a 600 pt game
>>47530608
>pizza girl
>criticizing anyone
>>47530477
>ugly as fuck
>also shit at everything they do
>fanbase likes to think they have some kind of moral high ground over others for their choice in space men
a chapter of bleeding hearts is pretty funny, but they've been trod into the ground by faggots on /tg/
>>47530617
I like them, but I like Broadsides better.
>>47530617
Fish head with ball-gag mouth is also my favorite flesh robot.
>>47530608
>posting Anal Lover Edit
LEL.
>>47530666
This. While I don't mind Lamenters, what I do mind is every 40k thread I've seen outside /tg/ (/b/ and /v/ seem to have loads, yes, I know, cancer incarnate) always have dick sucker Lamenterfags in there.
We get it, they're there for the 'little man' and they made SoB wet with their heroics. But come on guys.
>>47530477
>Lamenters going to fight someone
Oh boy, I can't wait to see that 200% casualty rateFlesh Tearers best BA successor
>>47530692
>yfw it's like the OP image of /40kg/ faces
Fuck sake anon, now I can't unsee it. Fuck you.
>tfw just found out about BaC.
>Never realized how sexy Mk. 4 armor is.
>Been wanting to start a SM army.
Aw man, now I just need to figure out what chapter I want them to be, and if I should make them a founding legion in case I want to get into 30k.
I also need to decide whether to use all the models into one army, or paint them two seperate ones, because using them in the game that it comes with seems like it could be fun.
daily reminder that Green iz best
>>47530692
>Fish Head with Ball Gag mouth
>Trying hard to see it
>See Admiral Ackbar's head instead
You son of a fucking silly person, you.
>>47530675
Only if they're using the Rail Rifle. Boxingglove broadside are stupid as fuck looking
>>47530706
Flesh Tearers are only good for Dual Chainfist Chapter Master and Seth kicking people in the balls. Seth is also great at raping people with his insane amount of S9 AP4 Rending Attacks (3++ will fail eventually and against every Imperial HQ bar Mephy will die, unless they have EW)
>>47530666
You know it's bad when Satan thinks you have bad tastes.
>>47530734
>implying I would ever sully the glorious model with HYMP
Shame HYMP are so good in game. If I ever got Broadsides, I'd magnetise them so I can display them with glorious HRR's.
>>47530730
Literally who?
>>47530330
Stormraven isn't bad. Just wait until you get wrecked by a squadron of Vendettas. 9 twin linked Lascannons at BS4 on a flyer will ruin your week.
Who is your favorite faction to play against /tg/?
Why? (be honest)
What army do you play?
>>47530751
>implying
The number of the Beast is 616. Or 665.
>>47530758
My nigga. That said I'd convert the Broadside to hold the HRR like an actual sniper rifle. I really don't dig the underslung look most of the battlesuits use.I think they're ok on stealthsuits but the bigger ones just... meh. I'm making my Ghostkeel's main gun slot into his forearm like the gundam heavyarms. his Twin-linked weapon will be wrist-mounted on the other hand.
>>47530692
so, in the lore, are the sister known to be lewwddd, or is that just in sweaty fap fics.
>>47530781
>Who is your favorite faction to play against
Space Marines
>Why?
Because they always put up a decent fight and I don't get tabled when I play against them usually
>What army do you play?
ORKZ
>>47530781
I love playing against EldarI play Imperial navy with tax guard
>>47530781
No idea, because in over a year of playing I've never had the chance to play against anything but varying flavors of Space Marine.
>>47530772
>muh optional rules
>>47530747
>Flesh Tearers are only good for massive overkill in melee
I'm confused, you seem to be implying there is any other than the glory of the Assault Phase.
Are you okay?
>>47530809
They get their fanatical fevor from lack of cock, so I would guess only in fanfictions.
Elves are a filthy, lewd knife ear sex race.
Tau females prefer Guela men.
>>47530781
Orkz, they're wild and crazy as fuck and it's almost
ALWAYS a guaranteed win for me
I play Tau with a focus on suits
>>47530182
Grey Knights vs Daemons is kind of an outlier in that the former have always had a huge advantage, though Daemons are pretty good against all Marines armies in general.
Usually, no army has a clear advantage over the other, even with fluff background. There are certain units/characters where their hate for one faction is so great that they do get buffs against said faction, but these are usually minor or if not, you're still usually paying a high points tax to get access to these abilities.
For example, Tau's Commander Farsight has Preferred Enemy (Orks) which means he is more accurate and better at wounding against Orks. However, he's an expensive character and restricted to weapons that is not 100% optimal against Orks so he's not a must-have versus them.
Speaking of Farsight, his sub-faction of Tau do get an army-wide bonus against Orks. Here, the Tau's bonus is slightly better close combat against Orks, an area where Orks will win anyway, just less easily. It doesn't really make a difference, especially since Tau should always be planning around shooting anyway.
>>47530823
What? You can squadron them in the codex.
>>47530823
Optional my ass, if GW drops a book then it's in the game
>>47530838
Kys
>>47530835
is it in lore that tau females enjoy some human greater goods, or is that just more fap fics.
>>47530805
Hah. I've always wanted GW to make a Sniper Rifle Suit. Something with insane long range + damage, but that's kinda covered by everything else. If they could make it Precision Shot, it'd be neat. Make it be like S6 AP3 Heavy 3, Precision Shots or S8 AP2 Armourbane Precision Shots alt fire mode.
I can't find many good sniper rifle holding robots.
>>47530831
Tanking shit so your guns can take them out. Do you even play 7th edition bro?
Bathtime for the warriors of the Fuzzy-Paint Kabal.
>>47530889
Broadsides can get that as a support system. If they're a line shasvre with a her they PS on a 5 or 6
>>47530848
Not that, death from the skies means vendettas only snapshoot against other fliers (as only Fighters get skyfire now, and vendettas aren't defined as such). Some are claiming these rules are optional, but as >>47530857 says that's probably not going to fly.
>>47530781
Tau, because I can freak out tau players with the amount of firepower I usually bring with my Raven Guard/Raptors. My typical anti-tau list includes 20 plasma guns and 14 Lascannons, many of them getting infiltrate. A Tau army that brings enough missilesides to take out all the razorbacks doesn't have the firepower to kill my marines or my Deredeo, and a tau army that can threaten the Deredeo and marines will just get laughed at by the razorbacks by sheer numbers.
It's hilarious now, because my local Tau player has actually changed his entire meta from gunlining, to surgical strikes and riptide spam. Simply because I can out-shoot his army with a portable gunline.
Last game I played, I had ONE HUNDRED marines, all with plasma gun and plasma cannon, sitting cozy in my deployment zone. He had 5 Riptides and 6 squads of deep striking crisis teams.
The riptides stayed way the fuck away from my army, and the crisis suits deep striked into his own deployment zone so they wouldn't get eaten alive by plasma cannons. We ended up having a 5 turn long stand-off as both armies waved dicks at each other, before we mutually decided to concede. If either side moved up, it would get toasted.
>>47530882
Yes. Thats why they tend to castrate most human males upon arrival.
>>47530889
Not that hard to convert the Broadside to hold the gun properly, mate. Plus, give it Advanced Targeting System and you got your 60" S8 AP1 Sniper Rifle. I'd use it!
>>47530932
Eh, I was referring to your ground troops getting their shit kicked in, but I guess fighters would be a reasonable counter to them. That's what hydras are for, though.
>>47530932
what is "death from the skies"?
>>47530993
THIN YOUR FUCKING PAINTS!
>>47530993
>Great Repose
>shitty paint job
>>47531018
Newest GW supplement which revamps aircraft. 50% good intentions, 50% garbage.
>>47531018
New supplement with replacements for the flyer rules.
>>47531040
>>47531042
is it in the mega?
>>47531024
>>47531020
Hey it's not mine, I don't even field broadsides! it's the one conversion I found off google holding the rifle properly. Chill.
>>47530925
i think they removed that. You can only ever PS on a 6.
>>47531058
still, remember to thin your paints.
>>47530993
>>47531058
>properly
>not shoulder mounted
>>47531058
But what's the point of precision shots if Look Out Sir's can still be taken? It's nice if you manage to get past the LOS, but most of the time it'll be taken by another model.
>>47531040
>>47531042
found it.
where is this reference?
There needs to be more lore on the Barghesi all we know is that they control a decent empire and theyre red and angry
>>47531086
>>47531020
>>47531024
It looks thinned in the picture, you guys are autistic mongoloids. Just because the painter isn't professional doesn't mean he forgot to thin his paints. And that's the wrong fucking advice for someone whose already thinning his paints, but sucks at brush control.
The advice he needed was to mix Paint Medium with his Nuln Oil to stop it from pooling, and to put less paint on his brush.
>>47531119
A gun that size shoulder mounted on a robot that size? Really?
dumb Desu poster
>>47530617
>>47530692
I can see it, and it can't be unseen. Tau are lewd.
>>47531141
>>47530781
Tau.
Because they rarely kill my guys, and never want to start punching me. I can sit and trade shots with them all game long.
Mephrit dynasty Necrons.
>>47531141
no,the advice he needed was to thin his paints. the thinner, the better. it is commonly know that 'eavy metal painters' paint palate is actually the pacific ocean. the reason why it appears blue is because that how thin their paints are.
>>47530993
I feel like I've seen a Transformer that looked like this, but not with such tick paints.
>>47530653
>Flyers below 1000
This is why we can't have nice things.
>>47531149
with the solder mount you can have the two so it's actually twinlinked. Instead of trying to pretend that thicker barrel is twined-linked.
also
>suit that sized.
yep, it's big and bulky as fuck to hold a big gun. The conversion even lost the bulky as fuck look that makes it a broadside and not a crisis suit.
Fail better in the future anon.
>>47531024
Whatever happened to him? Also I'm surprised he doesn't have bionic eyes.
>>47530781
Imperial Gaurd.
Because i play Tyranids / Chaos.
Tyranids fighting Guard just feels like the classic starship trooper fight, it's always very even and enjoyable
>>47531214
He probably died and or is some high magos. He would have to be older then 12k years old.
>>47530781
Orks. Especially when they go for a horde. It's too much fun to rip and tear through the ranks in glorious melee combat for Khorne's bloody Glory.
I play CSM if that wasn't obvious.
>>47530993
You paint about as bad as I did when I was 11, man.
Sniper units are best units. In fact, why don't you use more sniper units, /40kg/? You don't like AP2, Precision shots, 4+ to wound against anything, long range and the satisfaction of taking out an entire army's heavy and special weapons along with sergeants, leaving your opponent completely toothless?
If I played SM, I'd probs load up on sniper scouts.
>>47531214
>>47531227
he died on his second expedition
>>47531202
Its two separate barrels if you look at it. That's closer to twin-linked than two separate guns
>>47531227
I somehow feel like he's out in wild space in an Explorator fleet. How would he be stated?
>>47531244
Source?
>>47531238
Pity your situational awareness hasn't gone up since then though, I said it's not mine ya dingus.
I'm kind of interested in getting started with an Imperial Guard Army (I have never played 40K before and am not sure I will ever have a chance to, I want the models more than anything), and, if I ever manage to get into a game, which of my two favorite regiments would you guys think is best for a beginner: Death Korps of Krieg or Vostroyan Firstborn?
Pic is there just to look cool, not instill bias in favor of one of the regiments.
>>47531240
I use kroot and sniper drone teams extensively. Even throw in some rail rifles for designated marksmen in some of my pathfinder squads
>>47531234
Really? I thought you were a Tau player from that description.
>>47531240
you forgot pinning
>>47531256
if you have to look closer to tell it's supposed to be two guns stuck together, it fails at twin-linked.
>>47530889
>Do you even play 7th edition bro?The only armies that I play against regularly are Dark Eldar, Space Marines, Dark Angels, Chaos (SM, Daemons, and KDK), and 'Nids, all with very chill and laidbacked players.
The worst things I've seen so far were multiple Grav bikers squads, Double Flyants with two TL Devourers each, and Ravenwing bikes with 2+ rerollable jinks with a FnP icing on top, all of which were dropped after a single game to not be an asshole.
I ain't certain if not getting to play against WAAC faggots with Tau/Eldar/Necron/SM netlists counts as playing 7e, but I using a 7e BRB if that's what you're asking.
>>47531283
Or you're just retarded
>>47531263
Firstborn. Kriegers look cool, but their codex is lesser then the regular codex is. Also firstborns will be cheaper to buy and will be softer on the wallet down the road when you go.
>oh shit nigger, what was I doing
As you look at your old paint jobs.
>>47530781
I play Raven Guard, and the two most fun armies I've played against was Khorne Daemonkin and Orks. The rest of my meta is Tau, Eldar, and unbound Tyranids so he can flood the board with shit tons of MC's
>>47531263
Depends on how much money you are willing to spend. What is your starting budget?
>>47531258
>Source?
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Arkhan_Land
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/White_Dwarf_245_(UK)
I still have my launch day 'raider. What a cool tank.
>>47531263
Well, you could pick both and then just proxy them with/as WW2 models for/from historical games.
>>47531263
FW does support Kriegers, GW doesn't seem to think that other regiments but Cadians exist. Just know whatever one you don't pick will be waiting for you to wake up in the morning. What do you want to wake up to? Space Russians, or men and women in gas masks?
>>47531263
I have a soft spot for the first born
a) DKoK are a bit overdone these days, everyone thinks they're the best guard.
b) They look like the Imperial Army from the 31st millennium
c) Considering the price of Cadians and FW these days they're actually quire affordable.
Problem is GW has just removed some of their models, such as the three man blisters and the officer variations. So get them while you can or be prepared for eBay.
>>47531263
>beginner
vostroyans
metal is easier to handle than resin
>>47531269
they're so fun aren't they? Tau do some of the best sniper shenanigans due to marksmanship and being slippery being their schtick.
Fuck WAACspam, go snipers and toy with your enemy.
>>47531300
Thank you for the response, though what do you mean when you say "lesser"? As in, simpler, less detailed, or lacking?
>>47531303
Not terribly good, it will either be very slow starting and building up an army slowly, or saving up funds for a long time for a spending spree (I am a unifag).
>>47531323
a hot girl in my bed
How do I find people to play this fucking game with I'm sick of playing against my dad
>>47531291
if you don't like the rules of the 40k aesthetic, there are other games and settings.
Twin-linked is two guns strapped together, or just two guns.
>>47531331
Most tau lists are like that though, they have the best sniper in the game. Nothing beats an ignores cover, 2+ to hit, d str missle.
>>47531305
That's a rather spooky end.
>>47531338
What do you find hotter Space Russians or men and women in gas masks?
>>47531344
And it is two guns strapped together. You just refuse to actually look at the model and notice it.
>>47531338
gross
during the summer you want a cool girl in your bed
>>47531337
As in power rating. Kriegers have their own imperial armour book codex and are pretty cool, but are a tad bit expensive point value wise so the regular IG codex ends up giving you more for less point wise.
>>47531357
That's not a sniper, that's a nuke. Fuck that noise, I'm never fielding such an abortion of fun.
If my opponent ain't having fun, I'm not having fun.
>>47531337
Vostroyans basically require using third party figurines, but there are some nice Russian trooper options. Krieg is amazing looking but like all forgeworld it is expensive, and the actual stuff you get from them has been nerfed. Elysians have undergone the same treatment.
>>47531338
>>47531358
mhhhhhhhhhhhhh. gas masks are pretty lewd...
>>47531365
naw m8. i like for them to be nice and sweaty before i go ass diving.
>>47531364
no, i see it. But that's half-assed according to way 40k does twin linked. It's a gun with two openings on the barrel.
This is added onto it no loner looking like a broadside, but a crisis suit holding a bigger gun, a shit paint job, and no secondary gun; or are you going to claim the shoulder mount is also a twin-linked. Fail better.
I don't get how missilesides are always better than riflesides. It's just 2 missile pods strapped together. You can do that shit on Crisis Suits. Why not take the S8 AP1 gun with almost twice the range to punch a nigga to the shadow realm from the other side of the board?
>>47531323
Where would be the best website to find the Vostroyans on?
I like the Kriegers lore more (largely because I know more about it) and like the idea of a huge artillery focused army, but I am really enamored by the Vostroyan uniforms.
>>47531324
Huh, I would have thought the price would have prevented them from being overdone too much.
>>47531381
Ah, so can't bring as many troops to bear with the Kriegers.
>>47531403
>Vostroyans require third party models
I think not. Just LOOK at this sexy fucker.
>>47530838
>favorite opponent is Orks
>fields suit spam Tau
Im convinced 99% of Tau players are idiots.
>>47531445
SNIPERS
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>>47531439
Check Gamesworkshop's website. They have Vosroyan models on there.
>>47531438
The same reason you take the Rapid fire battle cannon over the Thermal cannon.
So looking into a 3500pt game of Dark Angels and I was wondering if I should use the Silence Squadron or put any combination of the DA fliers into my Ravenwing Strikeforce so they auto arrive turn two with outflank.
>>47531457
A quick google found a command squad. A lot of stuff happening around the house right now, so replies may be slow, and it will take me a bit to check around the rest of the site.
>>47531439
GW's site I'd imagine.
>>47531445
I like how the one on the left is looking at the one without goggles.
>IVAN, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE ME THAT BOTTLE OF VODKA YOU OWE ME?
>>47531453
I think he's joking. I hope he is.
>>47531470
Higher number of shots is preferable to single shots that wreck shit?
I dunno, the profile is so easy to get anywhere. You can get the same firepower from Strike team turrets for 20 points for fuck sake, why lose out on a weapon that's relatively rare?
>>47531544
Ok nevermind, S8 AP1 is Fusion Blaster and that ain't rare but having 60" on a strong and tough platform is.
>>47531544
it's a profile you don't need, while missile pods are a profile you want more of.
And I'm pretty sure the strike turret isn't 3 TL missile pods.
>>47531582
A HYMP is just a missile pod with double the shots, so it's just 2 with a re-roll.
I'm just saying you're paying 65 points and 35~ euros for a model that has the same firepower as 20 points worth of turrets (or 30 on a crisis suit). 2 markerlight tokens makes TL redundant.
Maybe it's personal preference, but I'd never use HYMP myself.
most bs things gee dubs have ever said/done/ whatever.
>>47531699
Age of Sigmar, probably.
>>47531715
is it reaaly that bad
>>47531660
and a secondary weapon system.
and not requiring a markerlight for every unit you want to shoot with doesn't suck.
And TL on BS4-5 is still better than just plain BS4-5
>>47531699
>>47531715
Yeah the End Times-->WHFB kill-->AoS launch is probably the dumbest thing theyve ever done.
>>47531746
It's only moderately dumb. But squatting all of Fantasy and killing people's setting of 35 years was really, really bad.
>>47531746
it has NO rules, and on top of that it destroyed what had been a decent fantasy story and turned it into LOL GODREALMS MAGICKS GALAXY shit
>>47531445
If you want to field Heavy Weapon Teams, Commissars, Tank Commanders, etc - you do have to go 3rd party.
>>47531751
TL on BS4 can be useful but really trailing off. On BS5 it's just borderline redundant. If you're getting it for free then sure fine but f.ex I'd never twin-linked my Commander's weapons just because I'd rather have twice the firepower. Plus the secondary weapon system is moot. I'm not talking against Broadsides, i'm talking against HYMP in favour of HRR.
I get what you're saying, there are benefits. I just think missiles can be better accrued from elsewhere for cheaper.
>>47530938
>He had 5 Riptides and 6 squads of deep striking crisis teams.
And he's going up against massed high strength, low ap weaponry...
I'd be interested to see how an infantry heavy Tau list would fare against you. I'm talking wall-to-wall Kroot, Firewarriors and Pathfinders, maybe with EMP grenades and all wrapped in a Hunter Contingent.
If you have his army list from your last match with him I'd love to see where he went wrong.
>>47531788
stop that. It had no COMP rules, it had rules. You can say the rules were shit, but they were there.
>>47531240
Yeah I got tons of snipers I'd highly recommend all Ork players load up on Lootas probably my favorite unit.
I wish the tactical squad kit included more bayonets
So do we what's releasing after the literal metal bawks and fancy bases?
>>47531961
*flesh bawks
>>47531961
nothing concrete, no
>>47531988
Shit, you're right.
I'm honestly excited to force weapon it to death, just because it's so fucking stupid.
>>47531961
This is the teaser.
Anyone know what the fuck it means?
>>47532018
more stealers, maybe? That'd be pretty neat.
>>47532014
I'll be getting it and some rhino treads from ebay to turn my flesh boxes into cheap metal boxes.
>>47532053
Genestealer Codex when?
>>47532071
it might just be lost patrol
>>47532073
Oh yeah, that might be it. Cool.
>>47531927
>Lootas
They're nice, but many complain they tend not to last long enough to make their point investment back.
What are the best Warhammer fantasy or 40K board games out there? I want to find one but dont want to pick up a shit game
>>47531699
Eldar Craftworlds.
>>47532124
I'd wait and see, there's a bunch of releases coming in the next year or two.
Blood Bowl is likely to be first, if you want to look into it. Adeptus Titanicus, Necromunda and Battlefleet Gothic are other games mentioned as being in development.
>>47532124
There is plenty of p&p games table top wise, but other board games kinda suck. Just stick to 40k vidya. Fantasy just got a pretty major game aswell.
>>47532189
>but other board games kinda suck.
What a fun eldar list (theme) way to play? Trying to avoid cheese
>>47532124
>best GW board game
space hulk, either 1st ed+expansions or 3rd ed
Tyranid attack and warhammer quest (the old one, not the new one) are pretty interesting with their random dungeon generation, but they aren't as well designed or easy to just pick up and play.
>be Tech Priest
>discover this hidden in a program.
yfw?
>>47532212
Gonna justify Conquest, relic, or forbidden stars?
>>47531961
>>47531988
>>47532018
>>47532053
>>47532068
wait what? is something happening?
>>47532224
Swordwind.
>>47532264
Forbidden Stars isnt bad. CitOW is a hall of fame level board game.
>>47532246
Iron Hands + Skitarii anon from last thread, anybody want to critique a list?
SM CAD (415)
Techmarine - 90
- Betrayer's Bane
Tacs - 115
- Rhino
- Meltagun
Scouts - 105
- Storm w/Multimelta
3 x Rhino (Fast Attack slots) - 105
SM Allied Detachment (205)
Techmarine - 65
Scouts - 105
- Storm w/Multimelta
Rhino - 35
Skitarii CAD (630)
2 x Vanguard - 230
- 2 plasma calivers
2 x Vanguard - 170
- 2 arc rifles
2 x Onager Dunecrawler - 230
- neutron laser
Total: 1250
I could get to 1500 easily with unit upgrades and a tricked-out bike command squad for the second techmarine to ride around with. What are your thoughts?
>>47530227
Funnily enough, I intended them to be Blood Angels successors but with sorta Saxon/Gallic flavorings.
And for their chapter to have this huge hammer he recovered from a Shrine World.
>>47531827
Could be worse for him. He actually OWNS 9 Riptides, and 4 Stormsurges, and he's buying more of them for when the store gets back into Apoc season.
I play Raptors too, so I also have the option of rending his suits to death if they get within 24". Last game I played with him, a single 170 point tactical squad with 8 bolters, plasma gun, plasma cannon, managed to kill a riptide in only one turn of shooting by good rends.
My hardest counter to him is of course the 30 devastators with Infiltrate using Ignores Cover Grav-Cannons. Which he totally deserves for being the kind of person that brings multiple stormsurges to 'casual' games with new players, while simultaneously complaining that they're overcosted and shit. So he's pretty much the /tg/ avatar of tau-faggotry.
So far though I've only been stomping him into the ground with 20 plasma gun lists, he hasn't pissed me off enough to truly come out and take my gloves off. I'd rather he be surprised when I next show up to a tournament with the aforementioned grav-cannon list.
>>47531961
Warzone Fernis part 2, and /tg/ continuing to whine about 40k.
>>47532246
Slaanesh, leave him alone. No wonder cares about drugs or sex when your greatest champion is Lucius.
>>47530712
I'm almost done doing my first box as all Thousand Sons. I think I might do up an allied contingent in either World Eaters, Dark Angels, Ultramarines, or Alpha Legion with the Ultramarines portion of my second box so that I can run the actual game.
>tfw I have painting ADD.
>tfw I can't paint good.
I want to die.
>>47532436
I am both and have fully painted up to 3000pts over 8 months. It will happen.
When exactly does Shrike get to use his Infiltrate? He's only allowed to deploy with Jump Infantry units, but none of them have Infiltrate.
>>47532627
I'm pretty sure it confers the special rule to the rest of the unit.
>>47532654
Huh, never realized they changed that. Thanks.
>>47532353
How are you infiltrating so many units?
>>47532627
>>47530781
I love to play against tyranids, especially swarms of little dudes. Just with the one tyranid player in my group bought more models
I play Guard, DA, GK, and Eldar.
So I can technically infiltrate my land speeder storm if I have my scouts in it, correct?
>>47532716
Nevermind, Isodon gives you Master of Ambush. So you're only actually infiltrating 4 units. Still a fair number of Infiltrators.
>>47532224
aspect dar (sans warpspider)
Melee Dar
Guardian footdar
tankdar
Basically avoid wraithknights, scytheguards, scatbike spam, and warpspiders.
So I know nothing about 40k and own no miniatures(yet) so how does mixing of armies work if it works at all? Like aren't all the Space Marine factions and Imperial Guard on the same side? Can you use any unit from any of those factions in your army?
>>47532788
only if the land speeder is a dedicated transport
>>47532855
Generally, you can take any mix of factions that you like, so long as the minis from each faction fit into either a Combined Arms Detachment (Generic roster that include an HQ unit and some Troops), Allied Detachment (Generic allied roster of an HQ and less troops), or a Formation (listing of specific units for some benefit). Allied factions, like Space Marines and Imperial Guard affect each other with special rules and Independent Characters can join each other's squads.
So what is the current state of Independent Characters with Infiltrate? Do they confer it to a unit they join as per the rulebook? Or is it like the last FAQ where characters can only join other units with infiltrate? This is just too much of a clusterfuck for me.
So where in Death From the Skies does it say that you can only target ground units with vendettas?
>>47532948
No. Vendettas have been stated by GW to be considered Valkyries stat-wise (in a FB post in response to being asked about it), and Valkyries may fire Snap Shots at Flyers and fire at normal BS at everything else.
>>47532929
>Asks two questions
>answers "no"
It's like GW is attempting to meme
>>47532929
Read it. Its saying that ICs without the rule can join an infiltraiting squad AFTER they deploy. So you cant put a superfriends squad together and infilitrate them all. However, since Shrike has Infiltraitor special rule, he confers it to the rest of the squad due to one model containing infilitratior lets the squad deploy as infiltraitors.
>>47532971
so where does it say that valyries may only fire snap shots at flyers? in the main rule book it says flyers can choose whether or not they start the turn with skyfire.
>>47532997
There should be a ruling in the book where skyfire is only given to attack aircraft and aircraft with skyfire weapons
>>47533017
yeah, i'm asking where and in what book.
>>47532995
So its just what the rulebook says, infiltrate can be conferred by an independent character and that whole unit can infiltrate, yes? Sounds good to me.
>>47532997
He's talking about the new Death from the Skies supplement, which is awful horseshit that you should just ignore.
>>47533043
still, i'd like a reference.
>>47532788
Yes.
>>47533068
you know what?
nm, this book is shit.
I think they are mostly optional rules anyway.
>>47533133
It's not intended to be optional, but there's nothing stopping you and your opponent agreeing not to use them.
Any grey knight players know good anti armour units? I'd like to run my LR as a crusader for the dakka so I'd rather use something else if I have it, dreadnaughts maybe?
I know I've been shitposting this the past couple days but I'm about to put a bolt round in my mouth having to get 5s to glance fucking rhinos with psycannons
>>47533148
I would assume the opposite without any evidence to the contrary.
>>47533151
Either take dreads, or librarians with technomancy.
>>47533029
>>47533181
How does tecnomancy mesh with GKs? Sanctus Daemonology works super well for making my librarian a super rapey force multiplier so I'll need some convincing
>>47533229
>>47532018
Captain Antonius Vicenzi of the 9th Blood Angel Company
all I could find in google when i search games workshop and antonius
I miss the old rules for flyers, that basically operated like they did in Epic.
>>47533264
Sheild of baal 2?!
>>47533232
It specifically hurts/helps vehicles. Haywire attacks, and attacks that strip d3 hull points. If you don't get hurty ones, you get ones that can make your land raider 15/15/15 or not shaken when penned.
You have really said anything to convince me that these rules aren't entirely optional.
I don't think they have been implemented at the tournament level.
>>47532948
>>47532971
>>47533274
In fact I think the primaris is a haywire attack, so you're guaranteed something that can hurt tanks.
>>47530692
Thanks for ruining this model for me.
>>47533305
With my librarian taking 4 powers I'm sure to get something, might consider running that, my landraider, and a dred to try out a mech GK army, my dreadknigjt is still a good source of sactuary before he dies turn two so I wouldn't miss that completely, thanks for the food for thought anon
>>47533273
>Sheild of baal 2?!
>another Tyranid and Blood Angels supplement
This pleases me, but there's no way that would happen.
>>47533273
Lost Patrol is more likely.
>>47533043
My FLGS has not only been ignoring this, but the new FAQs as well.
>>47530838
Tau players in a nut shell.
so what makes you think the rules are not optional or that the basic book ruling on flyers does not apply?
>>47531240
you say that like nids have any snipers to speak of
>>47530838
Nice Tau player impersonation fellow Imperial
>>47533362
>, but the new FAQs as well.
y tho
>>47530993
Not too bad a job on the lenses.
But Jesus Christ dude 'drown in wash' is NOT the final step in painting.
>>47531149
This. Anyone who uses those fucking anime girl response pics needs to git that fuk out.
>>47531275
Sniper USR lost pinning for some reason
>>47533455
Don't do it dude.
>>47531699
rolling back armageddon
>>47533455
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.gif
>>47533455
>>47533455
Its the same fag that always does it. Ignore him like everyone else does.
>>47533399
People confuse the optional dogfight phase with the entire supplement being optional.
>>47533455
How do you feel about anime robots?
>>47533043
Death from the Skies is literally the result of: "Hey guys, any ideas on how we can fuck this game up even more?"
>>47533550
why is the entire supplement not optional?
what makes you think it is mandatory if no one is using it?
>>47533626
I feel like none of you guy have even tried it yet. Just because skyfire isnt auto granted, doesnt mean that most flyers are now firing snap shots. Read it. All its saying is positioning of planes determines how you are shooting at other planes. Attackers get skyfire because they dont have to follow the model other planes do to fire at full bs.
>>47533640
The part where they say 'these data sheets replace ALL current flier rules' mean it's not optional unfortunately
>>47533676
My buds played a match and had a blast with it.
>>47533676
my group doesnt use the rules simply because none of us have a copy yet
>>47533676
That just in dog fight jerk off. Read the fucking pdf. That you can get. For free. In the OP.
Only fighters get skyfire on the actual table now. Oh and FMC because fuck adjusting tyranids, just make sure they get no Battle Brothers
>>47533676
Getting a penalty to your reserve roll if you dont have as many flyers as your opponent is a shitty attempt at forcing players to buy multiple flyers. GW can take DftS and shove it up their ass. Everyone I know is disregarding it.
>>47533679
then it should have been in the main rulebook
I am not buying some homebrew supplement just so I can read about fliers that only other armies get
>>47533640
Its not mandatory any more than any supplement is. But it is official, and does replace and supplement existing rules and statlines.
You dont have to use it, but if you dont, you are ignoring part of the ruleset. Which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Death from the Skies is steaming pile of shit.
>all this salt
how many of your fliers were nerfed angry anons?
>>47533719
Why dont you provide a pic like the other anon or are you just gonna shout off what you think is correct.
>>47533719
>>47533855
>Only fighters get skyfire on the actual table now. Oh and FMC because fuck adjusting tyranids
The only source of anti air that CSM now get is through flying daemon prince assault - not even shooting since daemon princes had their guns taken away a few editions back
>>47533855
Maybe some people just think its unneeded bloat packaged with a clumsy attempt at forcing players to buy flyer kits?
>>47532018
Lost Patrol probably. Could be fun.
>>47533890
the rules themselves are unneeded bloat to get a bunch of neckbeards to buy their models
though i doubt if dfts was free people would have the same reaction
what should i take with mah blood claws for a 1000 point game. melee focused.
>>47533719
You have yet to read this book and yet you shit out soo many lies. Skyfire is only given to Attack aircraft out of the 3 types. Flyers can still fire full Bs at other flyers aslong as they are trailing behind. Fmcs are only mentioned in the book as "Air targets" and doesn't gain or loose anything from the DFTS supplement. Kill yourself.
>>47533878
Yeah DftS feels like it was designed by someone that just doesnt give a fuck. And had only the a vague familiarity with the game.
Leaving the Vendetta out because the kit doesnt come with enough lascannons to build that variant? Do you know how many GW kits dont have enough bits to build every loadout/variation? Vendettas are in the codex, did any other flyers included in a codex get left out?
Nerfing the Heldrake again!? Lol ffs poor CSM players. Its just comical. They didnt even give Heldrakes a formation, just the ability to squadron. They made sure not to give them fighter or bomber status. Make them attack so they arent good at anything!
>B-but they can vector strike
They will never be able to maneuver vs a fighter to get a vector strike off.
Thats just 2 issues with the book. Its a fucking joke famm. This is what happens when you hire people based on attitude instead of talent, and pay them minimum wage.
>>47533817
Its not more flyers anon. Its just having one if the other player doesn't. I guess guard are stupid too because they can buy a model to do that too.
>>47533855
I personally don't own any flyers but it'd be better if a single flyer didn't reduce reserves imo.
I'm okay with having to at least have a formation or altered CAD to get that bonus instead of getting the bonus for one and then getting another bonus for a second.
As is, if your codex has cheap flyers, you can fuck most reserve based armies.
>when are they gonna release a source book that has the side benefit of stopping overwatch or deepstrike charging for the cost if you take a CAD of two specific unit types?
