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>Take chances
>Get messy
>And never, ever cut a deal with a dragon
This is a dirty world, and we do a dirty job. What lines don't you cross? What do you sacrifice for to stay human? What gang culture is around the place you live- are they dirty street thugs, local protectors, or exploitative syndicates?
In a LA runner game I'm currently in, our only line appears to be 'Does it look good on trid?'
Last nights session had us fleeing the country after crashing a high level corp wedding between Aztechnology and a AA Japanocorp, turning the whole affair into a glorious farce, topping headlines and generally creating some beautiful chaos. Of course, we also ended up with quite significant bounties on our heads. Still, it was totally worth it.
Is this the inevitable result of having morals?
>>47487543
No, it's the inevitable result of being a fuck-up.
>>47487543
Yes.
But if it's any consolation to you, it is also the result of not having morals.
So have people started making overwatch inspired builds yet? Metasapient Gorilla Tank builds when?
Howling Shadows brings some new Mentor Spirits. Some are good, and some are... less so.
This Whale one seems super punishing for a very small benefit. The skill bonus is not going to matter much in most campaigns, and the disadvantage is super punishing- a whole point of magic for breaking a promise.
>>47487853
Meanwhile, I really like the Boar. It can complicate matters, but it's also really fun to roleplay with, and Home Ground+ an additional spirit service are nothing to sneer at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX51M0i4kqM
What ritual are these guys casting?
>>47487866
>can't leave his home behind, even if there's probably Shiawase snipers across the road
That's pretty hardcore, but still pretty well balanced. A bit easy for CHA traditions, though.
>>47487819
I don't know if there are Gorilla shifters. Reading this, it sounds like the species is extinct outside of zoos and genebanks.
>>47487903
Salem Wiccans- Not even once.
>>47487931
There's still that -1 penalty on all active tests for 3 weeks, which depending on how often the group runs could span several jobs. Not crippling, but a nice niggling reminder of what you've lost.
>>47487819
I've actually made a couple of Gorilla-shifter characters, although both games died pretty fast.
One was Silverback, an ex-military guerrilla (yes, it's a dumb joke) who got into Shadowrunning after retirement got boring. He used the Bear shifter stats, with a few modifications, such as being able to use properly adapted weapons while shifted. Because a gorilla with an Assault Cannon is awesome.
The second is worse, and the game still might happen. A laboratory ape who was genetically modified as part of an experiment, but ended up awakening as a shiffter and used their newfound intelligence to escape. They got into running to get the money to get by, and took a name from another oddly coloured digital ape... Bonzi.
>>47487903
It could literally be anything. Music is a method, not a specific spell. It's like blood: you can use blood to do a lot of different things. So it is with music.
>>47487903
>The_great_ghost_rave.trid
OR
>90s.btl
>>47488180
I kinda prefer 80s.btl.
Which if you don't know, is this. https://youtu.be/V67OOERTOEo
>>47488241
Yesteryears_Sprawls.btl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GrF87b82Q
Well, to not spam to much:
How exactly are BTLs made? What level of equipment and expertise would one need to make them?
And, are there "soft" BTLs, the kind you Slot if you just want a relaxed evening without the addiction part?
Fellow Elves, I have a problem. I believe a mon-keigh in my runner team has almost stumbled onto our system for controlling the lesser metas.
He's been going on rants about the Elven conspiracy for months, but he has found proof. Upon checking it over, he has indeed found some left by a careless member of our society. Unfortunately, I found this out after he posted all this on the Matrix before could remove him and killing him now would be suspicious.
Any recommendations?
>>47488341
>How exactly are BTLs made? What level of equipment and expertise would one need to make them?
All you need is a simrig implant with the security features removed; any halfway competent cybertechnician could do that in an hour.
And 'soft' BTLs are just simsense. The whole point of BTLs is that they are hot simchips, ones that have all the inhibitors removed.
>>47488360
Conspiracy? You mean all those hard-right Tir nationalists shitposting on the Matrix and using those old wargame memes?
You're both delusional drekheads.
>>47488341
>How exactly are BTLs made?
You start from a simsense recording, and then you edit them heavily, way past what the human brains normally receives as imput.
>What level of equipment and expertise would one need to make them?
Not a lot.
>And, are there "soft" BTLs?
Legal level simsense chips. But those are still addictive. Just much less so.
>>47488360
Yeah, I recommend you go jump into Lake Vasa and play around with the Acids. I mean, "mon-keigh"? You're clearly a poseur who has never been within 100 feet of an elf, but tried to learn about them from a pre-Crash Mongolian breakfast cereal fan board.
>>47487853
Its good if you are running in the islands where you are going have have rep as a trusted runner. Pair it with traits that capitalizes on that like Code of Honor
>>47488341
A standard BTL is made with a simrig and a cold-sim or legal hot-sim enabled device recording in a DNI setup. If you want it real good, then you'll also want cybered sensory organs with good levels of sensory enhancement.
You'd want some computer skills to do the editing and probably a simsense knowledge skill. Similar setup to the recording, but probably at a workstation.
And there's legal strength simsense, which probably includes the proto-BTL stuff. It's still addictive, just less so. On the level of Longhaul.
>>47488341
BTLs are made by setting up an "actor" with special sense recording gear (Which basically incorporates Image link, audio link, touch link, olfactory link, taste link, emotion link, and nerve impulse link, all with the safety features turned off, delete as appropriate) doing whatever the BTL does, and then often edited to be more extreme and sometimes edited to be even more addictive than normal.
"Soft" BTLs are still addictive, but they're more high functioning. Stuff like a chip that generates an intense emotional response but doesn't otherwise affect your ability to function, like being *really* happy all the time. If you want something that isn't addictive, then you want regular simsense with the safety features still turned on.
>>47487488
I've got no morals. I just do thing to get money in the edgiest way possible, like CGL wants every runner to do.
AI_showing_off.trid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWt9pu-HAdw
In 5e, how well do the non-core "Race" options for Characters (SURGE, Meta-Variants, AI) work, both mechanics wise and fluff wise?
>>47488440
?
I don't do Missions, but it seems like the modules are generally geared towards presenting you with a moral choice, and chiding you for being immoral. Not to mention the JackPoint characters, who react to people who treat running as a job to be emotionally detached from as pariahs, and are generally the biggest bleeding hearts this side of cyberTumblr.
>>47487488
>What lines don't you cross?
My character doesn't hurt kids probably. Bad for image. Also doesn't kill fans, also bad for image.
>>47487819
>Metasapient Gorilla Tank builds when?
IIRC shapechanging into an orangutan and using heavy weapons is p. viable.
>>47488484
You're better off ignoring them entirely.
Hey... So my group really wanted to play shadowrun and nominated me to run it. We picked up 20th anniversary edition cheap, I've been doing okay as a new GM but that's because my players have resolved most things without combat.
I am trying to get combats working well, and they just kind of fall flat. Does anyone out there have a let's play or anything that shows someone else running combat for 4th ed? I haven't been able to find anything and I think it would help a lot.
Looking at the GitHub releases, it looks like there might be a new official Chummer release soon. I for one am all in on the HYPE.
>>47488421
Can I get a chip that's just "Dopamine rush" or "New Romance" or "Physically incapable of giving fucks?"
>>47488853
Mood BTL, Mood BTL, and either a personafix or a more unusual and obscure BTL.
>>47488853
Pg. 413 Core has a list of different types of BTLs. Short answer is yes, they're called moodchips, and are the most common ones on the market; most people don't want to fully experience combat or crazy pornography turned up to 11, but everyone can use a pick-me-up that gets them through the day.
>>47488845
Yekka's said that they're reworking the whole skills system on the backend, along with some other changes, and they're also going to put in the Howling Shadows stuff (or at least start it).
>>47487853
That should at least give you both nitch skills in exchange for the worst drawback of any mentor.
>>47488898
>>47488875
So the legal mood chips are probably as common as Zoloft or Prozac, right? I think I'm gonna have my characters involved with a bad batch that makes normal trophy wives and wageslaves and stuff flip their shit. Thanks.
>>47488972
Its apparently not an uncommon method of treating Depression to be prescribed a BTL strength moodchip.
Are there still Fair Use Laws in 2077? Have they gone the way that Sony seems to want them to go- You can get 'Fair Use' permission in return for an 'administrative fee'? It seems like copyright law would be entirely designed around corps protecting themselves from each other, with no regard for civilians or other people who want to consume, reproduce, or take inspiration from corp-owned media.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/05/youtubes-copyright-robots-help-sony-shake-down-bluegrass-educators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji8g-t3tWCo
>>47489440
A lot of stuff is released in proprietary formats and will either only run using certain equipment unaided or will get you thrown in jail and your bank accounts drained dry for even trying to share with people.
>>47489440
It's more likely that there are special "fair use" licences from certain media producers. Stuff that basically boils down to "You can use this as long as [You credit us for it/you pay this fee/you don't mention these subjects/you promote our products]"
>>47489440
I'm going to assume the RIAA has soldiers that hunt down and kill anyone who they don't like.
So, can a dwarf or human knock up a troll in the setting? Are there half species in this? asking because I wanted to have a henpecked manlett dad dwarf and an overbearing Jewish troll mom as characters for my underage Decker who shadowruns after school and constantly gets calls on his comlink involving the mom nagging him in front of people he was trying to be cool around.
If I can get GM ok this is going to be great.
>>47489817
>So, can a dwarf or human knock up a troll in the setting?
Yes.
>Are there half species in this?
No.
> I wanted to have a henpecked manlett dad dwarf and an overbearing Jewish troll mom as characters for my underage Decker
100% possible.
>>47489817
Yes metatypes can breed with each other but there are no half-breeds. It's either going to be a dwarf or a troll or a human from that kind of union. We've said this I don't know how many times.
>>47489817
You can have parents of two different metatypes, but you'll come out as one or the other (Or very rarely as another metatype). Troll and orc metagenes are pretty overpowering though, so if one of your parents is a troll, you are almost certainly also a troll.
>>47488972
In SR Hong Kong there is a guy named Reliable Matthew who uses pharma-grade mood chips to treat his depression, so presumably they are common antidepressants
>>47489849
Welcome to /srg/, where we answer the same questions over and over from people who can't be bothered to type 'breeding shadowrun' into Google. Pretty soon we're going to have "How do I plan a run" guy and "What spells are good for mages" girl to round out the party.
>>47489863
The 'other metatype' would be human, and even that is vanishingly rare. I've never heard of, say, a troll and a dwarf having an elf. Even in human+nonhuman pairings, the kid is almost always the nonhuman.
>>47489895
> I've never heard of, say, a troll and a dwarf having an elf.
It's a one-in-a-million fluke, but it's possible.
>>47489895
>implying typing in 'breeding shadowrun' wouldn't just get you metric tons of catgirl and cyberloli impreg porn
>>47489895
What do guns shoot? Do I need to buy the holster? Can I take "two left feet" as a flaw?
>>47489991
>cyberloli impreg porn
Sign me up!
>>47488574
"Feelgood" outcome of your jobs awards you with better karma by the rules, while being coldhearted usually means better pay. Since the first thing every single GM does is multiply CGL's suggested nuyen payouts exponentially on top of letting the runners loot and then sell billion nuyen equipment and relics, not being a bleeding heart tumblrite makes you a suboptimal runner in the long term.
>>47489991
I'm not touching the reddit link but everything else looks legit.
>>47489991
I don't know what you've been searching that would lead that to be your results, but the first page responses I get are pages directly relevant that question- the Shadowrun subreddit, the official forum, Dumpshock, the wiki, and stackexchange, >>47490138 beat me to the screenshot.
Maybe use incognito to collect your porn?
>>47490108
Not if you are an Awakened character who has more use for karma than nuyen, and not if the whole group is in on the same runs, gets the same payback in karma and nuyen, and keeps working together. You won't be 'suboptimal', because you're not trying to out-compete some other group of runners in a cash race. The group stays at approximately equal footing.
>>47488574
>>47490108
In practice my GM ends up giving out the same amount of karma no matter what the job is.
Also, the Jackpoint characters are terrible Shadowrunners. I suspect they spend more time posting on Jackpoint about how runners SHOULD act than they do actually 'running.
I give the same amount of karma no matter how "feel good" the run is, then afterwards the group nominates each other for some extra karma, which is generally:
>1 karma to someone for exceptional roleplay
>1 karma to someone who solved an issue by "thinking outside the box" or being clever
>1 karma for someone having the right skill at the right time when you usually wouldn't need it (for example, having artisan(cooking) to make a poisoned meal)
It's nice because it gives people incentive to RP and not just smash everything while also keeping the party roughly balanced since a few extra karma isn't that big a deal.
>>47490185
>literally 4channers shitposting instead of going outside
It all makes sense.
>>47490185
So kinda like /srg/ poster, no?
<Smashling49> //Freiburg represent//
>>47490264
I do something similar, except for the nomination part. It's a lot easier as the GM to hand out rewards as seems appropriate, and cook up something else for a player who gets consistently overshadowed (like an RP scene between that player and his family).
>>47490298
No. A big hunk of /srg/ hasn't read the books and has no idea what they're speaking about.
Jackpointers at least ran the shadows/did something relevant before being allowed to shitpost.
>>47490185
>>47490298
>it's actually done on purpose
>>47490331
Funny you say that, I just came across this bit in Howling Shadows:
>Zippy Toetag is established as an organ snatcher of little importance dating one of the special correspondents
>Zippy Toetag posts
>Oh for fuck’s sake, are we letting everyone in here now?!
>Clockwork
>Since I know how much it pisses you off, I might just do that.
>Slamm-0!
The JackPoint mods are bigger cucks than moot, and it seems like access to this 'super secure special elite shadowrunner site' is about as hard to get as a Something Awful account.
>>47487488
>This is a dirty world, and we do a dirty job. What lines don't you cross? What do you sacrifice for to stay human?
He hates shadowrunning and does his best to keep things strictly non-lethal and not to put people in danger if they aren't already involved.
For example, one of our plans to blackmail a wageslave into breaking some encryption for us was to kidnap his mother, my character was 100% against that and we had to go with a less pragmatic plan instead as a result. He was really good at killing shit (14P unarmed) but almost always used stun gloves because hey, security guards are doing their jobs, just like him.
>>47490385
Isn't Clockwork the guy everybody hates and the reason why JackPoint crew looks like a tumblr circlejerk?
>>47490385
Jackpoint kinda went to shit when FastJack disappeared. Shame too, because Ol' Jack was one of my favorites. Something about an old guy from the 1990s who still keeps 'running really appeals to me.
>>47490436
You realize that unarmed attacks do Stun damage unless you're an adept with Killing Hands or have cybernetic limbs, right?
Also, if he hates shadowrunning so much, why doesn't he just join a corporation and go straight?
>>47490503
If he's doing 14 damage unarmed, chances are it isn't stun. Especially if he's not a troll or something.
>>47490503
>unless you're an adept with Killing Hands or have cybernetic limbs, right?
Or bone density, which he had.
He was a former Aztlantian pit fighter, loaded up to the gills with combat bioware.
Couldn't easily go straight due to being an illegal immigrant/no SIN.
>>47490536
>Couldn't easily go straight due to being an illegal immigrant/no SIN.
Buy a good fake, use that to get by until you get a real one. The UCAS hands them out like candy.
>>47490585
What's with all the SINless in UCAS, then?
>>47490470
Yes and yes, but it seems like they are scaling that back.
Between Howling Shadows and Rigger 5.0., they are saying more and more that Clockwork at least has more practical knowledge than most other people on there; there may be some people with specialties, and he doesn't know shit about magic, but when it comes to general running strategies and equipment, he's one of the best informed and most capable runners out there. And when CFD started, Clockwork was the one who found out what was wrong before anyone else.
It's really on the social issues that you see problems and circlejerking. Everyone else on the board is so fucking accommodating that when he says things like "technomancers are up to some weird shit, they're working with evil AI and have attempted at least one global holocaust," and "Ghouls and other Infected are a cancer on metahumanity that need to be exterminated," the reaction is immediate hate, which is very jarring when you just read a section all about how technomancers love breaking the rules of the Matrix and commune with inhuman AI, or how vampires constantly have to restrain themselves to prevent a massacre. They also added shit like him personally threatening other members (can't remember the details, he tried to sell Netcat and her kid to a corp or something) which makes it incredible that they still associate with him.
It would be a lot less jarring if JackPoint wasn't so dominated by touchy-feelies, or if there were other people who voice the same opinions and be the first ones to say, "Puck literally worked for Deus, he can't be trusted."
>>47490484
There's only one admin I love.
>>47490585
Alright, now how does he get said corp job, walk into the local Lone Star office and say "I am a murder machine, make me a security officer pls"?
He's got no credentials he can reference, nobody to vouch for him, a con pool of 4 and a negotiation of 2.
There's more to "working for a corp" than being good at what you do.
>>47490645
Some people choose to live outside the system for whatever reason. Either they don't trust the Man, man, or they like to stay hidden.
>>47490664
Do you have a face in the party? Ask him to have people vouch for you, even if these people are just him in disguise or people he's bribed into singing your praises. Alternatively, you can do genuine good works; ideally, mix those in with the fakes so your resume isn't a complete fabrication.
Do you have a decker in the party? Have him forge your credentials and ID.
Fake it until you make it. It's a lot of effort, but the question he has to ask himself is this: How badly do you want out? How far will you go to leave the game?
>>47490645
Anon is talking out of his ass. The 14th Amendment to the UCAS Constitution registered every citizen, and the new non-SINners were 'probationary citizens' with very limited rights. To get from probationary to full citizen requires an act of Congress, which did not happen once from the Amendment being signed into law until the day Big D got the nod. Even today (2077) it's exceedingly rare.
The entire point of the SIN system is that it's almost impossible to get a legitimate SIN through any means, like Immigration on steroids. It's far easier for someone to live in a million-nuyen mansion for the rest of their life than it is to get a SIN.
>>47490585
Has immigration policy changed in the 75ish years or something? Cuz IRL you basically don't get to be a citizen unless you were born here or go through an absurd amount of red tape. Plus, I highly doubt a shadowrunner would count as a person of "a person of good moral character."
>>47490664
This desu. Jobs are one part being legal and one part knowing people.
He might be able to get a shit job as a meter-maid or a food salesman, but if you want to get a paying job that'll actually get you out of the Barrens or wherever you are you'll need to work your contacts first. And that's not something most SiNless have.
>>47490664
Work the shadows until he gets an offer for working for a corp exclusively. Explain to the Johnson making the offer, privately mind you,about what he would really like to do in the corp. See if they will let him get an actual SIN to go with it.
>>47488574
>Not to mention the JackPoint characters, who react to people who treat running as a job to be emotionally detached from as pariahs, and are generally the biggest bleeding hearts this side of cyberTumblr.
That hasn't been true for ages. Don't mistake the writers having the Jackpointers expouse progressive views on egalitarianism in the hacker community or AI pronouns for the Jackpointers being good guys. The first through third edition Shadowlands BBS cast was full of neo-anarchists, gangers, and the SINless frequently talking about leaking corporate data to the public or using runner funds and resources keep corporate presence and drugs out of their neighborhoods.
Yes, Clockwork is considered a bastard for starting beef with his fellow runners and Rigger X is an asshole for selling out his team with cartoonish frequency. But those are marks of unprofessionalism that compound shit like Clockwork being a racist - remember, Haze is an actual, literal serial rapist who nobody on Jackpoint really seems to mind, and that's because he gets the job done and provides the forums with useful information.
Admittedly this has been reversed a bit in fifth edition, but you have to remember that near the end of 4E writers were openly stating on the dumpshock forums that, circa 2070, the running community should be jaded enough from never really making a difference that everyone heroic should either have left or gotten killed. Horizon, the Draco Foundation, and Hestaby all turned out to have secret evil agendas specifically because the 4E writers explicitly didn't want there to be any good guys for runners to be able to work for. 5E has changed that back a bit, but if you're familiar with the tone of 3E you'd see how mercenary the running community of the modern game is compared to the older editions.
>>47490713
Sadly the game fell apart before the party got especially "close" enough for random personal favors like that, our team was also close to 100% broke due to flubbing a few jobs in a row so the face/team probably wouln't have been too keen on spending time money and resources to lose their main "muscle".
>>47490730
>>47490729
This was essentially the plan, but moreso use shadowrunning as a stopgap to keep him and his daughter afloat until he got enough cash to have enough financial security to run a bakery. If given the option to sell out to a corp, I'm not sure how he would have reacted, since most of the time if they're getting you a SIN, you can't simply walk out the door easy.
Help, /tg/! We're going up against incubi, which are awakened paracritter squids that use illusion magic, and our mage has zero ranks in counterspell.
How do we stop our minds from being fucked?
>>47490904
LOG/WIL boosting drugs, try Psyche, that gives +1 LOG and +1 WIL, IIRC.
>>47490904
Mana Static is one trick. Spirit aid's another. Drones and fire-safeties on smartguns.
>>47490904
FAB.
When magic is being a bitch, the answer is always FAB.
>>47490904
Willpower boosting drugs.
>>47490808
I read the older editions, and liked them because Shadowlands was a neo-anarchist playground. I could cheer on Berlin because it was a pipe dream, but at least it was fighting back and trying to make a difference.
I can't remember the last time the new crop of JackPoint ever did something like that (maybe the New Mexico raid where FastJack got infected?). It's all talk, no action. They didn't get cynical so much as they stopped trying to do anything, but were happy to sit around and tell others how they were wrong. I had forgotten about Haze, though.
>>47490716
It's worth noting that there was a blurb in one of the second edition books that mentioned the process of applying for a SIN required proving that your parents were legal citizens of either the UCAS or another nation on the national SIN registry. I don't know if that ever comes up in the newer books, but it basically means that the SINless are subject to the Grandfather Clause from Hell in a lot of ways and it explains why the SINless populations in places like the Barrens just keep growing.
>>47490536
>>47490585
>>47490645
>>47490716
They do give you a Criminal SIN if you're SINless and arrested for a felony though, since that's how they keep you in the system and make sure you're serving your time.
If someone with a criminal SIN had a kid after they were put in the system the child would be filed in the National SIN Registry as a normal SINner. It seems like if you or your wife was pregnant and you were were desperate to give your future kid a shot at a better life than you, you could get arrested for murder or armed robbery on purpose to make sure your kid was in the system legally when they're born.
>>47489895
>filename
That's the whole point of generals, so they don't shit up the catalog.
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>>47490951
>It's all talk, no action.
Shadowrunners are all talk, no action.
The country is serious trouble. We don't win anymore. We don't beat Aztlan in trade, we can't do anything right. Our military has to be strengthened, our vets have to be taken care of. We have to end the corporate court, and we have to make our country great again, and I will do that.
Look at our country, filled with SINless and ghouls. Just recently I heard that Ares moved one of their weapons manufacturing plants to Aztlan, you know what I'm going to do about that? I will never fire another Ares Predator in my life, my whole life!
We are going to make the UCAS great again.
>>47491035
I would imagine there is a clause for that under law to stop illegals from being grandfathered in via crime.
>>47490956
There was also the Crash of 64, which deleted the records of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people. Efforts were made to reintegrate them, but a lot of people in edge situations fell into the cracks.
Come to think of it, that's a neat idea for a runner- someone who lost their SIN in '64, but is convinced that it was not an accident but the actions of his mysterious but powerful enemies. Now he's out to find out who did this to him and get vengeance.
>>47491064
>Prejudice: Technomancers (Outspoken)
>>47491064
In the end, he finds out he caused the crash by somehow accidentally aiding deus
>>47491064
An older runner character I made lost his SIN in crash 2.0, which only reinforced his distrust of modern tech (He was ~65 or so) and "the system".
>>47491050
>Just recently I heard that Ares moved one of their weapons manufacturing plants to Aztlan
Shoulda said CAS t.b.h.f.a.m. There's a big thing in Market Panic about how Ares might be moving it's headquarters to St. Louis, or even Atlanta.But I'll vote for you over that do-nothing Colloton any day
>>47491078
Maybe Erased? Refluff it as his history got erased without his permission, but now he's lying low to avoid ending up "back on their radar".
>>47491123
Erased paired with Paranoia could be a good representation of it.I've thought of making a module where the PCs are hired by a leonized Trump to help him in a hostile takeover of Ares, to make Ares great again.
>>47491123
Who gives a shit about the clapistanians? Let them fuck each other up.
>>47490927
>>47490929
>>47490939
>>47490940
Thanks, everyone. I'll pack drugs for everyone to get a bit of a boost, and will summon some spirits to help out.
How does FAB help here? Does it block illusion spells if the creatures can still physically see you?
>>47491162
I'd play it.First step- prove Damien Knight was actually born in the Algonquin-Manitou Council
I can't ever seem to get the numbers to spread just right in character generation. Am I just doing it wrong, or is the name of the game compromise?
>>47491210
Priority/Sum-to-ten is explicitly about compromise and making do. If you can't do it in karmagen, you're just shit.
>>47491176
The weaponized version of FAB (strain III IIRC) will fuck any dual-natured creature over bad. Just make sure the magic-users on your team don't do shit and sterilize themselves after the run.
>>47491210
Priority/Sum-to-Ten is literally all about opportunity cost.
You need to make sacrifices, such as
>Is starting with more edge better than having extra nuyen?
>Should I lower my skills to increase my magic or attributes?
Etc.
>>47491035
>Human Interest Run
>>47491227
Is there a good ratio or general rules or guidelines to follow in karmagen in your opinion, or just keep throwing stuff at the wall until something sticks?
>>47491276
So if I make say, an ex-go-ganger I might be pretty decent at getting my murder on, and driving my bike, but I'll have to accept I'll be marginal at fixing said bike.
>>47491581
More or less. Priority/Sum-to-Ten has the same issue that a lot of White Wolf games have- at chargen raising a skill by one rating costs one point, no matter the rating, while in game there are exponential costs.This means that's it always better to minmax for a few prime skills at chargen, and fill out the rest of the character over the next couple of runs as you rack up karma.
Karmagen leads to more generalized builds, which is not necessarily good or bad (for example, even an unoptimized priority build is probably more karma than the 800 karmagen limit, because of how it translate). The difference is more on what the group prefers than a hard-and-fast 'this is better'- karmagen gives better rounded characters with lots of skills at reasonable levels, Sum-to-Ten gives you characters who are exceptional at what they specialize in so you can cut your way through corpsec and feel like a badass, and Priority is garbage that no one should be forced to use instead of Sum-to-Ten.
>>47491719
Priority is garbage, but it works better as a more "balanced" sum to 10. You pretty much never have your character work the way you want them to, but you get a bigger bang for your karma buck than you would from karma gen.
Sum to ten can make such minmaxed monstrosities that I wonder how drakes work with it.
>>47491819
>Sum to ten can make such minmaxed monstrosities that I wonder how drakes work with it.
They don't.
And I find that sum-to-ten is far better for metas, though karmagen still helps when you want a rich troll. If someone is playing human I encourage them to use straight priority.
>>47490904
>Awakened squids
>Called incubi
Oh jeez, there's a whole genre of hentai BTLs based off of this, isn't there?
>>47491719
Thankfully my group is pretty relaxed on that. I guess I'll try just doing both and seeing which I like more. I wish karmagen was a little easier to do though. I wind up doing a lot of my character creation on slow parts at work.
>>47492180
Who do you think named them, anon?
>>47492195
Yeah, it's one reason why I'm glad 5e made priority the basic rule. It's not very well-balanced, but at least it's clear-cut, easy to understand, and relatively quick to do.
>>47492180
Now I wonder what awakened critters are called succubi. Maybe it's time to download that book after all.
Let's start discussion about new critter book: Howling Shadows.
Like: Critters stats, Matrix Critters.
Not like: PC can become a dragon.
>>47492238
Do it.
My group didn't save their city from destruction, but they saved some hookers. I hate my group. I have a bunch of sex worker refugees looking for homes in the CAS now.
>>47490484
Maybe he'll come back later having conquered his CFD, but not before it put him back in fighting shape.
>>47492449
Pro tip, if you want to start a discussion you need to actually start a discussion. Don't be a lazy fag and assume everyone else is going to follow your benevolent advice, because we just had 2 threads and at least one post in this thread about HS.
>>47492449
I like the number of critters but they put in a bunch of stupid shit like statting ordinary house spiders (which apparently have a condition monitor of 8).
>>47492669
Its baffling to me why normal spiders don't have "extra fragile" as a quality, rather than fragile 1.
>>47492717
Spiders are more durable than fucking cats.
You could shoot a god damn jumping spider with a palm pistol and it would give no fucks.
>>47492783
>>47492717
I'm guessing someone fucked up in editing and just put Fragile 1, though it does lead the the funny situation where a crow or cat with Fragile 2 and 2 body is 8 boxes, a ferret with Fragile 1 and 1 body is at 8 boxes, and the spider is at 8 boxes as well.
Do shaman's work well as the party face?
>>47492964
Yes. Shamans pump CHA, faces need CHA, bingo bango you got a match.
Shamans are the most common faces out there, along with bioface/adept infiltrators
>>47492964
>>47492988
Especially because totems can give bonuses, either to shore up lower stats or further pump up your face-ing.
>>47492988
>>47493214
Alright good, I thought so but was wondering if maybe there was something I was missing.
I'm gonna play my first campaign soon, and we haven't totally decided on our exact roles in the group because we all just made characters we wanted to play. Mine being a ex-academic shaman with a Fox Mulder-level of need to know the truth.
>>47489391
I wouldn't say so. They're burn out spiral levels of addictive, and you go hard into the opposite emotion after you turn the BTL off. Which you will do, because they have a time limit unless you crack the chip/file.
>>47493454
>Implying Sixth World phama industry wouldn't love to get you addicted to their time sensitive-extremely expensive product
>>47488807
Have you read the Storytime yet? Do your players use cover or ever try unorthodox methods of fighting?
>>47493486
Not implying that at all.
What they don't want is all their labourers and wageslaves burning out, or hitting the end of a happy BTL and actually killing themselves.
>>47493631
Honestly, two weeks on, two on meds, and if you make sure that they have one (1) repeatable BTL then it can provide a cheaper alternative to normal medication regimes.
I don't think it'd be healthy and you'd have to restrict access to the BTL lest the patient overuse it, but it could possibly work.
>>47492238
Succubi are called succubi. They're Shadow spirits that feed on lust. Well, that and Essence.
>>47487488
>>47487543
I didn't say you were a bad guy, I said you were a criminal. I've known good criminals and bad cops, bad priests, honorable thieves. You can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word. You can go home today with your money and never do this again, but you took something that wasn't yours and you sold it for a profit. You are now a criminal. Good one, bad one, that's up to you.
>>47493631
irl, doctors have no problem freely (and arguably sometimes irresponsibly) prescribing pain meds and antidepressants, things that are highly addictive and/or sometimes have side effects that magnify rather than treat symptoms. so why is it not believable that the same thing occurs in shadowrun?
>Got a problem thats preventing you from working, wage-slave? take these, shut the hell up, and get back to work
>>47493241
I really hope you survive, omae. Be careful of what lurks in the shadows.
>>47493241
Also be 'ware of traveling to metaplanes. Just because you find the greys out there, doesn't mean that it wasn't a weather balloon, a faked video, and a proto-typed aerial craft that was too expensive to ever make mass use of.
>>47493735
It'd be easy to restrict the BTL because you actually need a special piece of hardware (Hot modified sim module) to utilize it. Give them a commlink with hot sim that only the doctor/pharmacist has administrator access to and set it so that only the administrator can move or copy files to or from it, then set what amounts to parental controls so they can only use the BTL software at certain times and in certain places (Like at home after 8pm but before midnight).
Then recollect the hardware and/or wipe the data after their prescribed time is up.
>>47494618
Don't most Simsense treatments use facilities rather than OTC percriptions?
Also, your idea can be abused in such fun ways over he course of a run. I can see it now:
How to Destroy a Salesman's Career
Step 1: AC breaks whenever they step into a building/car
Step 2: BTL medication gets hijacked at inopportune times
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Life ruined forever
Playing a possession tradition for the first time; give me shenanigans.
>>47496199
Wake up with weird liquids all over you
Who the hell is this guy that keeps wanting to know when our next date is?
>>47496199
Possess a salaryman's briefcase and have it bite the shit out of him.
>>47496074
The basic prescription idea hasn't gotten past the fact that BTL off-time intensifies emotions opposite to those felt while chipped in. It's going to solve the suicidal employee problem, but not in a sustainable way.
>>47494529
He's more an ancient aliens/psuedoarcheology guy. Think Indiana Jones but actually believes in the wacky shit he digs up.
>>47494290
I hope so too, but I somehow doubt it.
>>47496199
Get some schlub, tank his Will, and then let the spirit do small wonders with a bum's body.
For extra points, have somebody's comm playing Painkiller or The Sentinel as background music.
>>47496285
Yeah... I assume it wouldn't be a BTL, just a specially designed legal simsense chip that provided your employee with a sense of well being within normal parameters.
>>47496290
To be fair, depending on what he digs up, he's not wrong to believe in it.
Just hope that you don't get the first poetry slam of Harlequin or something. Even if viking style ancient rap battles would be interesting.
>>47488845
Yeah, we're essentially at full release stage, I'm just faffing around with some minor issues on the backend. You can pretty much consider the latest build to be release code.
>>47490653
Remember, runner teams who want to stay a team doesn't discuss religion, metahumanity and politics.
Really the big douche is Rigger X, he ACTUALLY sells people out after you worked with him and was the one who actually gave him the info and he only escapes their wrath because he knows how to stay quiet.
>>47497468
Linux version, when?
>>47498215
It's not really a priority, nobody on the dev team uses Linux as their main system. Far as I'm aware it runs on Mono.
So, I was reading through the 4e magic rules for the umpteenth time and I noticed something concerning 2D's story. There's a part where the ninja snatches a handful of DNA from an enemy runner team so Geppetto can work some ritual magic with his Black Lodge buddies. When he starts doing so, the casting basically offs them one after another. Ritual spells in 4e take an hour to cast, at minimum, with a leader who has at least five Initiations under his belt and Magic 11.
If you're lurking, answer me a question and be honest. Was the GM playing fast and loose with the rules, or is the entire story just completely made up?Even if it is, it's still a great read.
>>47499527
IIRC, the casting was done by an NPC/GMPC black lodge member.
>>47500294
Maybe. Still doesn't account for the rapid-fire head-kerpoppins.
>>47499527
They abridged it for narrative purposes cuz sitting around for hours is boring.
>>47500455
Sez you. I can think of any number of complications that could have arisen from that particular scene, especially since he decided not to geek the mage first.
If the RAW had been used, the mage should have been able to try and find the spotter and follow its link back to the Lodge.
"Hello, Knight Errant? I'm calling in an anonymous tip concerning a group of Black magicians who just murdered my friend".
>>47500602
No, sez 2d. He flat out stated that he abridged it for narrative reasons in one of the threads.
Chummer 5.180 has been released:
https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/releases/download/5.180.0/Chummer5.180.0.zip
Ordinarily I'd post the changelog in this post, but it's like 20,000 characters so instead you can find the current changelog notes at http://pastebin.com/7FVcFE1U.
Important notes:
This build includes a MASSIVE rewrite of the skills system by one of the other devs, going by Joha4270 at the less anonymous boards. It's been quite heavily tested by our internal team but due to the scope of the changes, I would recommend keeping a backup version of any character sheets you load.
I'm really not happy with the current state of Infected, and they will likely be changed again in the near future. We'll do our best to retain compatibility with existing characters, but there's always a chance that we have to slash and burn.
The auto-updater will not work on versions prior to 5.180, due in large part to expired Dropbox links. Not a lot we can do about that, but we've since moved on to a Github-based distribution structure which shouldn't have any of these issues going forward. Download the release manually for now.
Chummer's current .Net version requirement is 5.2.1. If you have issues where it won't launch, I'd suggest you try updating that first.
Howling Shadows only has partial support for drakes as of this build. It's currently possible to make a drake and fully pay for it, but critter stuff and the partial payment for/latent drake qualities need some additional code support and haven't been included yet.
>>47500679
I meant the "boring" part.
>>47500684
Thanks, yekka. Keep up the good work.
>>47500684
Fuck yeah. Nice job as always.
>>47500684
And I have a wee lil' bug for you already: tooltips on skillgroups are always missing one skill, pic related.
Wonder who thought that giving all HMHVV I vampires a rainbow of glowy eyes would be a good idea.
>>47493812
Karma, not Essence. They're not the most dangerous thing out there.
I have an idea for a character... a cold blooded scaled human with exceptional attribute : AGI, Wired Reflexes 3, pain editor, titanium bone lacing and bone density augmentation 4. an Ares Predator, and an armor jacket.
I shall name him "Snek".
>>47502139
>titanium bone lacing and bone density augmentation 4
Incompatible.
>>47502174
damn. I'll just go with the bone density then.
>>47500691
I dunno, the way it was done was much more exciting and compact. The story is already so long, it doesn't matter that there was a bit of time compression to make it exciting. If the other runners had gone to ground effectively, that would be a good story, but as it is it seems like they panicked, tried to run, and were popped off one at a time.
>>47496199
I am also going to be playing possession, double the shenanigans please.
>>47503112
Buy a bunch of those artist models, prepare them as vessels, and then bind some high-force Combat spirits to them. Carry them in a duffel bag, and when SHTF open the zipper and unleash knee-high hell.
Alternatively, pic related.
>>47503179
That sounds rad. I'm vodou tradition so I have access to a spirit with unarmed as a skill. Also, what do the skills count as? force of spirit as skilll rank?
>>47503179
>Having a small squad of Gorgonites to cause havoc
Holy shit anon you're a genius
>>47503236
Yes, Skills are at Force, Attributes are at Force (possibly plus or minus something, depending on Attribute and Spirit Type).
>>47491039
There's still the issue that the general encourages people to throw out whatever dumb question they have, instead of them taking the time to actually read the book to look for the answer themselves, or to try and find it online.
Generals are a good place to collect discussion about a setting or the rules, but it shouldn't be that all the idiots show up every thread and ask the same damn questions and rehash the same old debates because they were too lazy to think by themselves.
C-could you r8 my build /srg/ senpais ?Reminder that we Pokemon now
>>47503452
Getting questions answered is also what keeps these threads alive and lures new people here.
I prefer reanswering the occasional question instead of this degrading into a circlejerk where only the usual 5 suspects derp around.
Besides, the books are a total mess.
>>47503943
There's a difference between productive questions and "what the best spells", which is probably the most often repeated question. Just by googling "best spell shadowrun [edition]" you get several forums with permanent pages that list many good spells.
Now, if someone says, "I've got these spells so far, and I'm doing X for my group, any suggestions for the last slot?" That can bring new people in and provide some enjoyment for other people, instead of regurgitating the same information.
>>47504010
What IS the best spell?
>>47504168
Increased Reflexes. Unless you're going to be Jazzed out of your mind, any mage worth his pointy hat is going to use that so they don't get geeked on the second pass.
Levitate, Heal and Stunbolt/ball are right below it on the pyramid.
>>47504342
Chill/Frigid from Shadow Spells does the same thing as Stunbolt/ball, but also it decreases Initiative.
>>47504506
True, though it does have a slightly higher Drain. And depending on the GM's dickery, StunX is totally safe because it puts the target to sleep, but Chill/Frigid can cause more serious problems like hypothermia if untreated. I know a couple assholes behind the screen who'd love to say that you accidentally froze the rentacops to death because no one got them to the hospital in time.
>>47503920
>Implying there are price/availability tables for animals/paracritters
>Implying any GM would be arsed to make one to run your extremely gimmicky build.
hey guys i need a little help.
Is there a good cyberpunk rpg with multiplayer support? I've looked through the howl steam store but i can't find something that would be worth to buy...
>>47505179
Shadowrun. True it's not on Steam, but grab the core book and roll up a character. Remember to actually read all the sections pertaining to the roll of the character you have made. You can find games somewhat easily on roll20. Actual meatspace games are far harder to find.
>>47505339
>>47505179
>>47505339
There's SR: Boston Lockdown on Steam. Should be more or less playable with friends according to the reviews,though, haven't tested it yet myself.
>>47505822
I wouldn't, given the opportunity to make that choice again. Far inferior to SR:R.
>>47505822
>playable
It's a grotesque abomination and the biggest buyer's remorse on my Steam library. Being playable with friends is debatable, particularly since if you're willing to inflict SR:BL on them, you're clearly not friends.
>>47506098
Can't you ask for a refund?
>>47506098
What if your friends are the kind of friends that would watch and riff on Manos: the Hands of Fate sober with you?
>>47506167
To steal something from Red Letter Media:
There is a difference between good bad and bad bad, Manos is good bad. SR:BL is bad bad. Please, just play the tabletop if you want to play with friends. Or play the Returns games if you want Shadowrun vidya.
>>47506144
I think I played it for like 20 minutes too long. Probably spent too much time in character creation.
>>47506167
I don't think it's anywhere close to being so bad it's entertaining, it's just depressingly braindead and worthless. There are so many more games that are fun to shit on.
>>47506203
>>47506223
Having seen Manos, I'm not quite sure I can call it, by itself, good bad.
On the other hand, my memories are cloudy for some reason. So I could be wrong.
>>47505822
It's not.
The gameplay is passable, as long as you're (like me) a person that can draw amusement from virtually anything. The netcode is horrendous, though; the fifth time you have to start your singleplayer mission over because you were disconnected from the server, you'll start wishing you'd live in dystopian future where you could call over some anarch friends and raid the offices of the game's makers.
If I have a NPC that runs a orphanage for dead runners kids, that would definitely be Dependent Rank 3 right?
And one of my players wants to be a explosive infiltrator, but wants his bombs to be able to be deployed by drones, but doesn't wanna rig. He was thinking he could have a npc rigger he hires for that. Would that be feasible just starting out or just too damn expensive?
>>47506627
You don't need to be a rigger to control drones. That can be done with a commlink and a stealth dongle or mod.
It's just not anywhere as effective as controlling a drone with a rig and an RCC.
>>47506627
>If I have a NPC that runs a orphanage for dead runners kids, that would definitely be Dependent Rank 3 right?
Yes, but it would also require having a LOT of contacts in the shadow world and a seriously good reputation (And a good network, like Jackpoint or similar). There aren't so many runners that you can just stumble across their orphans left and right and most runners keep a low profile and avoid having their families known by anyone else in the biz (Although, the ones who don't hide their lives from their associates tend to be the ones who soon leave orphans behind).
>>47506661
Welp, I obviously need to go over the drone chapter again. Thanks for that?
>>47506709
Most runners don't have kids. However the amounts of kids rescued from unsavory places (bunraku parlor, corporate lab, etc...) by runners-pretending-they-are-the-most-jaded-motherfuckers-on-Earth-yet-aren't is sometimes staggering.
An orphanage sponsored by the shadows for the shadows would thrive.
>>47506738
Oops did not mean to add that "?".
>>47506709
Well, he is a fixer and a Prime runner, but yeah I'll need to flesh him out more. Figured he has been in the biz for a decade or two, so it'd most likely be runners he's met over the years.
can you guys help me out with a seemingly obvious/stupid question for a new player. for whatever reason im having a hard time wrapping my brain around it.
in a spell like shatter where the drain is force -6 does this mean that as long as I don't go above force 6 I only need to resist a drain of 2?
basically what's confusing me is the -2,-3,-6 parts of the drain. they subtract from the amount of drain you need to resist at a minimum of 2 and an F just means you resist the based on the amount of force you put into it at least to a minimum of 2 right?
sorry if the question it so retarded im just having a problem visualizing it for whatever reason.
>>47506783
Yeah that angle would make more sense. If word got around there was a group of runners that took in kids, I'm sure they'd get some support from the shadows. Probably make a shit ton of enemies, too.
>>47506801
Yeah, sounds right. I didn't realise there was a default drain minimum of 2, where's that rule at?
>>47506738
>>47506795
The main things you lose out on are as follows. You don't get the free noise reduction that an RCC has (but in R5 the noise reduction action was explicitly made into a Matrix action, so that can still be pulled off, you're just not getting the bonus dice), and you're limited to however many autosofts/programs can be put on the drone. Probably not more than two.
And because you can't jump in, you don't get the rig's bonuses. Still, you're going to want a high rating commlink. and if you could afford a dongle instead of a Sleaze mod, then consider making the comm more fragile to increase the Firewall.
>>47506909
pg. 283 5thed core is where I found it.
>>47506909
Core book in the section about spellcasting.
>>47506801
Yeah, you've got it exactly right.
There are a few other things that can affect Drain that you might want to keep in mind. Reckless Spellcasting, for example, lets you cast a spell as a Simple Action but raises the Drain by 3. It's pretty useful for spells like Control Actions where you want to use the spell and issue a command on the same Initiative Pass.
>>47506801
Seems like you won't have to resist more than 2 unless you are trying to cast it at Force 9.
>>47506909
>>47506990
Thanks guys. for whatever reason my brain just shut down when reading the spell rules. yeah I know about some of the other sources of drain its just the -x part that threw me for a loop.
>>47506993
im not sure I follow care to explain? if I cast shatter at F-6, and pump in about 9 force im resisting a drain of 3 as far as I can tell.
>>47507213
The minimum drain for all spells is 2. If you cast shatter at anything less than 8, you still resist 2 drain.
>>47507213
>im not sure I follow care to explain? if I cast shatter at F-6, and pump in about 9 force im resisting a drain of 3 as far as I can tell
That's what I'm saying. You can go above Force 6, since 7 and 8 will still be 2 drain.
>>47507240
>>47507251
oh! ok yeah, I wasn't think for a for a sec. like F-6 pump 7 because 6-7=1 so 2 force drain, or F-6 pump 8 because 6-8=2 so your at the minimum drain threshold. thanks for clearing that up.
I'm about to make a nartaki adept master fight guy who uses a polearm and his two free hands to throw knives. Good idea or great idea?
>>47506932
You also can't control a swarm of drones with just a commlink, you need to send orders out individually, which is impractical if you want to combat rig, but should work OK if the goal is to sneak in a single drone with a bomb ahead of time.
>>47507821
Sounds like a pretty interesting idea.
>>47507933
Yeah, that too. But honestly, if somebody said they wanted to control a lot of drones without being a rigger, I'd look at 'em pretty askance.
Also, Technomancer as back-up/primary face. How does that sound?
>>47507979
>if somebody said they wanted to control a lot of drones without being a rigger, I'd look at 'em pretty askance.
I'd encourage it, honestly. Half of the flying drones in Rigger 5 are spy drones, it would be good for a group to invest in stuff like those Lockheed miniblimps and survey the area, even without a dedicated rigger. Slave them to a high-firewall commlink and the worst that happens is that the enemy decker batters their way in and uses your eyes in the sky, and odds are good they are a security spider who already has their own surveillance.
>>47507979
>Also, Technomancer as back-up/primary face. How does that sound?
Not good. Technomancers are already spread pretty thin with their attributes and skills so they can technomance well (not to mention the need to buy a high Resonance), they don't have a lot left over to sink in CHA and the Influence skills.
>>47508052
Not since Howling Shadows. Spy drones in open areas have been nerfed.
>I’ve lost hundreds of drones to these things over the years, and I’ve tried to work out ways to keep them protected. These things glide so high up you don’t scan them on radar and they’ve got low enough detection sigs and come in so fast when they dive bomb, meaning you don’t have a chance to pick them up before … BOOM!
>Lone Star has a division of trained hawks and eagles for use in parks and rural areas for security checks. These birds are trained to spot and retrieve small drones in the area. Lone Star equips these birds with lightweight protection in case the drone is uncooperative.
>>47508106
I'm mostly looking to restrict it to Computer, Software, a combat skill, and then four points in Compiling and Registering to get the best I can out of sprites.
Profilier and First Impression to kinda cover each other, and use a disposable sprite to get more hits on those search rolls.
.... Definitely a back-up face.
>>47508132
>aerial dog fights of drones vs. cyberhawks.
honestly that sounds cool as balls
>>47508914
Micro-sized reactive armor panels an fix that. If they can hit a rocket in flight, a matchbox-sized birdshot charge can disable a hawk.
https://youtu.be/YpmcmKwWzYo
>>47509162
Don't bully birbs, they are just doing their job for a cracker 'n shit.
>>47500684
Another tiny error I just found: when creating an advanced lifestyle, all the core rulebook lifestyles have "Source: SRG 369". That's where the example locations are tho. Correct page no. is 373.
Also, lifestyle qualities "Extra Secure", "Special Work Ares" and "Cramped" are on p. 374, not 370.
>>47500684
Finally, something else (and this goes out to everyone else browsing /srg/ right now):
When creating an advanced lifestyle, every additional roommate you add increases the Total LP by one. Is this an error or intended (and if so, where is the rule)?
>>47503920
>Body 3
That doesn't really account for his unignorable girth.
>>47505822
The game is ass, and I'm glad I got a free code for it in /srg/, because I would have kicked myself right in the dick if I had made the mistake of paying real-people money for it.
>>47507251
>>47507351
Then again, if he doesn't have any initiations, F7-8 will be physical Drain.
Who is "Goddess"?
It pops up a few times in the fiction, people saying, "Goddess help us if X happens" and similar. Is this just a term for an Awakened Earth, and is there a Church of Gaia? Is it some other religion?First person to post about how it's tumblr gets frowned at
>>47510048
There are wiccans and generic pagans who worship goddess(es) that may be or represent the Earth, and almost all Awakened beings agree that the Earth itself is alive (And is often anthropomorphized as female by generally everyone) even if they aren't religious due to its bigass Astral presence.
One or more of these facts has trickled down and affected common parlance.
>>47510048
>gets frowned at
Like so?
>>47510110
Good to know. t. Hanks.
>>47505887
>>47506098
>>47506566
>>47509946
Thanks for your opinions.
>>47487488
Around where I am there is only incognitos and blanks and I don't mean SINless. Masquerade parties for rich people to wash away their problems and to forget their daily lives. Escapism you see. But they can't escape.
You might be surprised how much different problems they have and how much they need someone to fix those problems. That is where I come around. I poke, I direct, I shove. A small nudge is all they need...
... next time we meet sitting in front of me is Mr or Mrs Johnson. I remember them, but they don't remember me. Different face, different voice, different smell. They tell us their problem, we negotiate the pay and we do our job. Money comes to our account and we part away...
...Until we meet again, in those parties exquisite. They are happier, problems washed away and their bank account slightly thinner. When we talk, they do not expect to be talking to that wages slave looking straight white elf who just days before cleaned their problems away. We part again and with sweep of a hand we never see again. I am yet another man.
Why I do this? Well the answer is simple, money. With that I can sustain this endless loop. Spend money on appearance, fish a job, do the job, get money. Rinse and repeat. Does that bore me? Nah, I love it. Do I have other plans? Oh I do, I so do. But those plans, we don't talk about them here. In New York City, hiding yourself from others is more important than you think. Why am I telling you all this, dead simple. Dead men don't talk.
Guys, please, I really need some help with this: >>47509647
Is there a way, save for starting from scratch with ignore character limits on, to force validation in Chummer 5? I'm at -14 knowledge skills because it doesn't calculate Linguist properly
>>47510505
Edit your character file with notepad and add in the ignore character limit in.
>>47510505
There's a ignore character limits checkbox on the select build method Window.
>>47510505
It does not? Always did it for me. And I just checked by creating a new character: it works for me. Spending 3 free points allows me to raise a language skill to 6. Are you using version 5.180?
>>47510539
It amazing how you managed to read that and provide an answer, while missing the majority of the first sentence. You're like an idiot savant, but mostly idiot.
>>47510628
I live to overachieve.
>>47510637
*underachieve. When you fail to do anything of use in the situation, but you can say that at least you didn't do anything worse than take up space, you're underachieving.
>>47510682
Stop being so autistic, chummer. I already gave you your answer before he even said anything.
>>47510521
>>47510483
>>47509647
I can't find any rules about that in Run Faster. The only thing about roommates is the Core 371 section about the increase in living costs.
>>47510719
Not the one with the problem, omae. Just noticing how depressingly dim people on 4chan can be, and what that says about me.
>>47501687
Why isn't it a good idea?
Does anybody want to start session 0 tonight in shadowrun in roll20
it will be 5th edition
Last session I ran had the players entering the SOX, and Mr. Johnson gave them each an MCT EE suit so they wouldn't die from radiation poisoning. They each wanted to wear their armor underneath, but I remembered reading about armor stacking being weird, so I just said it didn't fit.
Now looking at it, it looks like you can stack armor with no penalty. Only the highest armor rating counts, but if I had a actioneer business suit with fireproofing 6, then an urban jumpsuit on top with nonconductivity 4, I'd still be at 9 armor, but special bonuses from both? The only encumbrance rules I see is for stacking extras, helmets, shields, forearm guards, etc.
Is that right, did I miss something, or should I houserule something around it (can wear chameleon suit under full body armor, but not vice versa?)
>>47511496
The special stuff wouldn't stack, only the highest armour rating armour goes into effect, all other armour is ignored.
>>47511159
I'd be down. time and username?
>>47511496
Speaking as both a GM and player: by RAW afaik only the armor value itself doesn't stack, other specialities might. I'd just apply common sense here - you can not wear a cameleon suit and an armor jacket, that shit just doesn't fit. I'd maybe allow something like "Second Skin" + X, but that's about it. Everything else would just invoke serious penalties - beause no, wearing three armor jackets with different resistance mods is not an option.
>>47512359
Unless you somehow plan to lose two armor jackets over the course of a run.
And in that case I have to call you crazy.
>>47511496
Ignoring special resistances completely seems kinda silly. I'd take it on a case by case. To use your suit/jumpsuit example: having the nonconductivity on top will protect against taser hits, but the fireproofing underneath is only going to do so much for you if your top layer gets torched while you're wrapped in it.
Wearing a vest underneath the radiation suit would be okay, but nothing larger.
A chameleon suit seems like it wouldn't be comfortable to wear under full armor, and wouldn't grant any stealth bonuses anyway. I'd say you could conceivably do it, but give them a penalty to physical actions and call them an idiot.Unless the goal was to convince a jumpy corpsec his armor was haunted by ghosts, which is Scooby Doo as fuck and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKwVe1SBTA
Would this be perceived as racist in the shadowrun universe?
>>47501680
Well that's interesting.
>>47509647
I remember adding it because someone was bleating about it being in the errata. Could be missions errata, maybe?
>>47510505
Far as I know that issue was fixed with the skills rewrite. Try updating to 5.180 and see if it's still broken. If it is, upload the character file somewhere and I'll take a look at it.
>>47512815
I seem to recall at least one major group of Troll basically making that into their manifesto.
So, possibly, but in the sense that it was something that actually happened, like Al Joleson performing in blackface.
