GM's of /tg/,
Would you base your campaign's BBEG onyourself?
>>47466864
All of my major NPC's are based around my flaws, even the good ones. In my experience as long as you are aloof enough nobody really notices how the major villain is a shittier version of your mindset.
>>47466895
>good flaws
>>47467784
Not him, but he likely meant good NPCs are also based around his flaws. Learn into reading comprehension.
>>47466864
> Would you base your campaign's BBEG on yourself?
Probably.
> the heroes enter the final hallway
> it's cracked, torn and shattered, glass littering the floors from the three story high stained glass windows
> the heroes move up without a word. Nothing needs to be said. The bastard had a long time coming.
> The Warrior wanted to kick down the door, but after Thrangmar...he steps aside for the Wizard
> Not slowing his pace, the Wizard raises a hand and bolts of power arc outward, blasting the door to the Dark Lord's chamber from its hinges.
> The heroes step into the room of the dread lord. Experienced fighters all, they keeps their eyes open for any traps
> Their eyes alight on a figure in the centre of the room
> He's lying on a couch
> He's slightly overweight
> The glow of a laptop flushes his face with pale light
> He looks up at the heroes and raises a finger
> "One moment," he says, in a normal human voice "I've nearly proved this faggot wrong on a Phillipino flower-arranging forum."
Yeah, I back it.
Carbon copy? No, never.
Based on? Hell yes, it'd be interesting, lots of moral dilemmas and "BBEG did nothing wrong"s.
>>47466864
Yup best campaign I ran had the BBEG based of off warped version of pro-revolutionary ideas I have. Also the plot and tone of the game was almost entirely effected by my depression. Actually my best games are always when I'm depressed.
>>47466864
I don't know about a BBEG based on him, but I would probably murder my GM if he made the final boss a secret monster hidden behind a wall who can only be hurt by popping AoE effects in the right places.
>>47466864
No.
I'm working hard to be the good guy.
>tfw Icon of Sin is Doomguy 2016s son after the demons pulled the asshole genie move on him.
>>47466864
My exGM did it all the time, unfortunately.
He was kind of garbage.
>>47466864
The world would be gripped by a deep and comfortable malaise.
The god sleeps, and in so doing, brings all to ruin. Perhaps something will push them from their stupor, and allow them to fix the damage their inaction has wrought.
Or perhaps not.
>>47467832
It was pretty ambigous to the point where you might only notice one meaning before spotting the other.
That said, no need to be an arse about it.
>>47466864
I' don't think a BBEG who spends his entire days on a chinese cartoon forum would be very threatening.
On me? Nah. On my power fantasy? Perhaps.
Only if my personality is a mix between marasmus, hades from kid Icarus uprising, gruntilda, the joker, Rita repulsa, dr doofesmerts, the blue meanie, wheatly, rerun I from blaze blue, Daffy Duck, the spy from tf2, pennywise, papyrus and skeletor
>>47466864
>neurotic pasty weakling who never sees his projects through and has a crippling fear of commitment
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd make a pretty shitty BBEG.
yes
I put my actual GM self in as a bonus boss in an unrealistic campaign. Incredible fight I must say.
>>47466864
Never. There's things I'm not comfortable sharing with my gaming group. And while I consider myself a decent pretender, I'm not confident in being able to reliably pull that without anyone realizing what's going on.
>>47466864
I tried it once. Lost a friend over it.
I hate magical realms (when playing with other people) so I'd have to say nay, my biggest flaw is being a pervert
>>47469559
So can the BBEG.
>>47473150
I don't know, I'd like to see the look on my players faces when they realise the various half-completed plots aren't part of some grand scheme and the BBEG just has no attention span.
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>>47468169
Man, you guys are too self deprecating.
You're going to summon the personification of despair at this rate.
>>47469762
Tell me more!
>>47476855
Tell me more!
>>47466864
No. I'm too moralfag to work as a bbeg
>>47466864
A man who sits alone, away from others, who wants little beyond sustenance and spends their entire time thinking about every mistake he's ever committed?
Not unless there's also some curse that spawns demons from his regrets and a gloom that suffuses the land born of his despair. And even then, killing him would be easy, he wouldn't even put up a fight. Even a paladin could see how the death of one willing man is justified.
Might be a good introduction for the actual issue, a creeping despair that engulfs the land, wasting people away into undead.
>>47478297
Alright anon, allow me to tell you about the time the party fought their gm.
The setting would be good to start with: It was pretty much a world made up of many different types of fictional characters, sent their for strange reasons. There was an area for pretty much any type of story. An area for fantasy characters, an area for sci fi, etc etc. As you could guess there were many video game book and movie references and such since every npc was an actual character in something I was a fan of.
Anyway lets show the party:
1.Gun wielder who came from the world of fallout
2.Normal human from the real world who ended up learning magic
3.Melee weapon user from d&d
4. A fellow mage who specialized in healing and diplomacy
(do you wan't the whole story or just the part where they fought me at the end?)
>>47478297
"But, anon, if I have to live with this thing, this fucking disease that barely lets me survive from one day to the next, why shouldn't I share it with others?"
Yeah, I guess I could see myself as a BBEG.
>>47478491
Let's hear it all. For context.
>>47478560
Alright anon strap yourself in for you are in for fantastically long tale.
Our story begins at the portal, a heavily policed are where all newcomers to the realm come from, which our hero's were just plopped out of. Immediately they are met with confusion. Fallout guy was in the middle of fighting raiders, d&d guy was having a drink, and the two mages (who were not mages yet) just didn't know what was going on. They were immediately informed by a nearby officer where they were, and where they needed to go. Now these characters were actually teenagers (notice how in all the things they came from the minimum age allowed is 16) and because of these would need to go to a school which could train them how to defend themselves in this realm. The portal doesn't only dispense good people, it dispenses bad as well, and some are capable of sneaking by security and threatening the realm. After answering some questions and taking a train ride they received tutors who would help them enhance their abilities. Fallout kid got a cod protagonist. Melee dude got the oblivion main character, and the mages got my main man Igor. While tutors could help them to learn the basics (since Pc's characters were normal people) theres no better way to learn than jumping into their first dungeon!
>>47478687
Now I would like to clarify that the melee dude didn't even have his tutor yet (more on that in a second) And the two mages needed to answer a short questionare to determine what element they would be masters of (which gave a boost to damage/healing for a certain element). Afterwards they met the dungeon man (yes the dungeon man from earthbound) who had multiple portals where they could enter random dungeons to train themselves. Since they were newbies they were sent the cliche forest dungeon (this was it's actual name) and begin their journey. The forest was simple, with nothing but a few wolfs which the gun user quickly dispatched before a single spell or slice was needed out of the other characters. There was a road bump with a puzzle that required the party to drown themselves in a pond to continue, but eventually they figured it out and encountered the main boss of this dungeon. A man in holy crusaders armor. Gun user thought he had this in the bag, but his pea shooter did little to threaten him. The tank of a man quickly began to chop down the various party members declaring them as "villains" luckily one of the mages realized this was a misunderstanding and reasoned with the man, this man would soon become a close friend of the party for the fantasy period, and the tutor for the melee man.
>>47478776
Either way allow me to skip ahead a bit, party got stronger and got some better loot, and the main villain would soon be revealed. It all began when they returned to the portal in order to learn more about (their ultimate goal was to get back home). Where our grand villain appeared. The party couldn't see his face but they did see him do something with the portal. The hooded figure then immediately disappeared as on of these babies flew out of the portal.
After the battle was complete the party knew they would need to hunt this man down, if nothing else he could affect the portal in a way that might just get them home. But in order to track him down they required 4 (yes thats right 4) mcguffins. After some debate and some begging by the melee user, they decided to visit the fantasy part of their realm first.
>>47478951
Now I wanted the villain of the fantasy area to be something the party wouldn't recognize, so I decided to pull this guy. Of course first I needed to open up the area with a great medieval duel. Of course melee man entered and ultimately got to the semi finals until the tournament was interrupted by our favorite demon. The party tried to hold their own against him and his group of fellow demons but were ultimately doomed to fail. With the help of a certain witcher and dragonborn who pulled a big damn heroes though, they were able to hold him back and ultimately scare their opponent off.
>>47479123
Now then I might cut out the other areas from my tale simply because it would extend this story even more fucking long and I doubt anyone is that interested in this retarded adventure. Now ultimately the party with the help of the witcher dovahkiin, the crusader, and the princess daughter (who ultimately ended up a romantic interest to one of the mages much to her fathers annoyance) set together to defeat their opponent. Many demon lairs and battles later they had the demon kings head on a platter and one piece of the mcguffin to track down the hooded man who was apparently letting evil into the realm in the first place.
Now if anyone wants the full story please ask now, because if not I'm just gonna jump to the climax of all this shit. Since I really doubt this story is that interesting.
>>47466864
Loosely. Current BBEG is a dude, that could and should have been a regular dude, but instead spent his whole life being told he was better than other people and that he had to be a leader to them. He ended up just going along with it, and since no one has seen him fail(and he's not going to tell them, obviously) and he's not a completely incompetent fuckup, they think he's the Second Coming.
I once wrote up a bbeg who is an artificer with twelve automata servants.
I'm a projectionist. My theatre has twelve projectors. My twelve automata.
>>47479230
YES I WANT THE FULL STORY
THIS IS STORYTIEM, NOT JUST-SKIP-TO-THE-ENDING-TIME - *cough* Sorry, had a bit of capslock stuck in my throat.
If you just skip to the climax now, it would be like asking 'Have you heard the one about Nate the Naga in the desert with the armageddon lever? Y'know,better Nate then Lever?"
LIKE THAT. Now get to storytime, because I'm watching this thread now.
I dont think I could not cringe while doing it
>>47466864
I sorta had myself as the BBEG in a sort of Tribal Apocalypse Island Campaign based it around Lotf.
This is literally /pol/ tier so watch out
>Ship escaping Nuked Europe crashes
>An actually impressive amount of survivors
>Tectonic plates mixed with High Tide Bullshit keep Islanders from escaping the Island and no civilization means no Aerial Rescue
>College Aged Intellectual Group of Three extremely Smart Socialist and an English Patriot friend of one of the socialist go off deeper into the woods as they believed they could start a decent society out there
>Englishmen builds a decent sized hut
>Socialists Fish and Decorate the House but mostly just argue over long gone politics
>Englishmen works his ass off everyday trying to get a decent clean water source and forages everyday, even made the fishing poles
>Disgusted by the Socialists hypocrisy and laziness, not following their own beliefs, he constantly pickers with the group while he's dead tired
>Out foraging one day he comes across an old friend, a Stupid and Stubborn but Fit and Patriotic Black Dude along with Four other guys as a nomadic hunting party
>Englishmen explains his situation to Black Dude and friends. Persuades Black dude to try and force the Socialists out of his hut using the Five Tough guys as intimidation
>That night while the Socialists slept, The guys snuck into the village and tapped the Socialists awake with the hilt of their spears and threw them out along with their needless decorations
>The Englishmen, his Old Friend, and his Buddies Set up a pretty Good Society at the shack. They make a dozen more shacks and a hell lot more people start showing up
>Socialists show back up in a much worse condition than previously seen, Englishmen, in spite, allows them in on the terms that they must give him and his goons either two small animals or fifteen fruits a Week in order to stay
>>47481475
>Expands his control across the island with more villages and his goons started collecting taxes from the people, guarded their homes, and made repairs to the huts.
>Englishmen however crowned Black Dude as the leader because he thought having a Stronger, more vocal person would make the people feel more pride but ultimately Englishmen ran the place. Most Tribesmen know this, respects both of them but ultimately sees black guy only as aq figure head. Englishmen gives speech after speech on why his Old Friend should be more respected
>The Party was an outside tribe who hadn't had contact with the Englishman's tribe before and only heard rumors of the Englishmen's tribe swallowing up other tribes whole
>The Socialists played as the men on the inside for the Party and united the party and other tribes against the Englishmen for forcing them out then ruining the Englishmen's villages with Socialism
>The Players were told by this little by little but most were able to make out the general idea of the plot before the reveal
>I was expecting them to kill both the Socialists and the Englishmen but they ended up only killing the Black best friend before turning on the Socialists and making up to the Englishmen.
>I dropped a moral about Socialism not working in even small groups of tolerant individuals, the conditions Socialism most people agree would work best.
>anti-authoritarian idealist who thinks old money and personal wealth to the point of extravagance is a cancer to be cut out of society
>thinks some shitty things have to be done in order for things to get better for everyone left alive after the fact
If we leave it there I could see making a BBEG version of me, but there's also a lot of shit getting in the way of that idea.
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>>47479230
Alrighty den where did i leave off? Ah yes. The BBEG clearly noticed that the party already had one fourth of his macguffin and decided to send the next piece to something a bit more close to home. While the party was getting their weapons upgraded a dojima's blacksmith shop they heard the fallout guys old friend. "You have gotten far, but you haven't met frank horrigan, you're rides" over mutie!" As you could guess the party's pants got a bit brown, they beat a demon king before yes, but with the help of 4 other people. So with a giant mutant in power armor charging into dojima's weapon shop, things got pretty intense. Their weapons were currently in the middle of being reinforced, and while this wasn't much of a problem for the mages, who immediatley started flinging fire at the hulking monstrosity, the other two had little idea what to do. The melee guy settled for a blacksmith hammer and ready'd a defense spell his tutor had taught him as he charged horrigan. The gun guy settled for... a musket. You can guess how this fight is about to go. A few pot shots tinged off of his armor as he began punching the melee man to death who probably would have died then and there if not for his defense spell. Using their cleverness though, they were able to open up one major part of horrigan's defense and blasted the mutants head off with a perfect musket blast to the neck.
Posting dojima cus reference.
>>47481502
>I dropped a moral about Socialism not working in even small groups of tolerant individuals
Prove it.
>>47481648
Alright so at this point the party could either go to sci fi land or hell. And the party really didn't like sci fi. So hell it was. Thing about hell though, it doesn't like to give its people a fighting chance, the whole party lost all their gear and spells as soon as they entered the dungeon. Basically they were all reverted back to lvl one. Luckily they just had to kill the king of hell, no big deal right? So as the party delves further and further, getting makeshift weapons along the way they encounter this man. Who basically asks for the party's help to take over hell with his girlfriend. Now my players had no idea what game this guy was from but still decided it would be best to work with him. They chose... wisely. Eitherway a few demons and a couple lovely encounters with a succubus. The party makes it to the king of hell. Who instead of the actual guy vincent took over the place from in the game, was the satan from saints row. A wonderful battle ensues where each character saw their hellish nightmare.
1.Fallout guy saw the world taken over by mutants
2. Healer mage saw the entire world die
3. regular mage had his powers stripped with no purpose in life
4. Fighter saw his wife and kids die before him
Satan thought this would drain their will but no it motivated them, think like coming out virtuous in darkest dungeon. And for the first time as a true team (they really all went lone wolf edgelord up to this point but I cut that out since it wasn't to an extreme amount) All simultaneously beat him in one blow. Vincent thanked them for their help and they got the second to last mcguffin.
>>47481630
No, that's fine as-is, you are an evil person and I would fucking fight you.
On topic:
>I self-insert as a small-town sheriff or waypoint innkeeper, someone they'll encounter repeatedly, see his flaws and his ideals, come to respect, but in no way take orders from nor fight against.
>>47482140
Alright sci fi then mcguffin a bbeg fight. Now there isn't much to say about sci fi since both me and the party were admittedly uninterested. In the end it was mostly just power armor dudes (fallout guy finally got his own set) some laser weapons and such. It was nice for the fallout guy to get some good gear though after an entire campaign of admittedly being the load. I'll admit I didn't think gun balancing through but whatever. I really didn't want to go too high sci fi and just gave them commander shepherd and the final boss off half life 1. Really this was the lowpoint of the adventure but whatever every one has that.
>>47481502
>What are families
>What are groups of friends
How are these not socialist? You share things, give extra to those who need extra, and expect everyone to put in their fair share of work.
