Omegle sex with lesbian SoB players Edition
Metal boxes are better than most units in the game sub-edition
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
Which Primachs are which board?
>>47457065
Fulgrim is /d/
>>47457065
Please stop.
Invisible MC were just too strong, they made Nids usable again
>>47457336
>allies of convenience
I can dig it.
Hoping for more Genestealer Cult rules soon.
Militarum Tempestus suffers from a lack of mid-range shooting (among other things).
What if I got some help from that other mini dex and got a bunch of sniper Malleus Inquisitors with hellrifles? Some could take servo skulls and guide my deepstrikers too.
40 points for a BS4 36" S6 AP3 dude with a 4+ save. 10 point psykers provide denial charges and "spotting" with prescience. 5 point Bolter acolytes and cheap Chimeras and Razorbacks with psy bolts add fire support.
Retarded y/n?
>>47457403
there's a problem with that though, in the white dwarf they released the rules in they said that genecults are battlebrothers with nids, and now they're changing it in a faq
Post your battlestation subsub-edition.
Just upgraded my shitty paintstation with some IKEA powah, check it
>>47457472
That is fucked up.
I could see an argument for them being only Allies of Convenience from the beginning, But changing it via faq is kind of dumb.
>>47457569
if they were AoC from the beginning there would be nothing wrong with it at all, but now they're just edging us with psychic powers that aren't shit and then taking them away
So are the blood angels most likely destroyed in next edition?
I don't have the codex so I'm wondering does anyone know how many points of Daemons (without upgrades) come in the Start Collecting Nurgle box?
>>47457495
Good taste in movies senpai.
>>47457495
wtf man that's fucking huge
>>47457754
here nigga
http://wh40klib.ru/codex/
>>47457763
life is good
>>47457754
herald 45 + nurglings 45 + plaguebearers 90 + plague drones 126 equals 306
>>47457761
listening to the commentary :3
>>47457405
Could be neat, I'd put the sniper Inquisitor with some plasma cannon servitors so they can be more lethal. In order to be effective, they'd have to be deployed in a way so that they won't be wiped off the table turn one and also placed where they'll actually contribute to the game
I'd rather take a five man squad with hot shot volley guns and slap sniper Inquisitor with them with the psyker upgrade
>>47457569
Gotta sell Nid players dem bawkses, then pull the rug out. Thats GW's trademark move.
>>47457771
>>47457817
Many thanks
>>47457817
>306 base points for $85
>can get it most places at 20% off
The Start Collecting boxes are a step in the right direction.
Just picked up a NOS box of SC:AM in a trade for Renegade shenanigans, might as well pick up that Nurgle box when I have the spare cash to throw at my flgs
Do the metal bawxes actually have rules?
>>47457910
It could be worse. They could be Dark Eldar of the noncoven variety
Whats the most amount of models you would reccomend to have in backlog for painting as not to be overwhelmed?
>>47458044
>>47457472
Haven't you heard? Faqs are how rules are released now.
This way, we get new rules and gw never has to admit they were wrong.
>>47458112
They're ok, especially if you want to like barricade an area for cheap or give more options for your vehicles to get cover. Nothing too fancy but I'll skip them for now.
>>47458166
>we get new rules and gw never has to admit they were wrong.
Everyone wins!
>>47458091
a squad of about 15. on my table i got 3 models to base, 1 needs conversion work, 3 need to be primed, 1 needs painting, and 1 needs a few more layers to be finished.
oh and 10 screamers of tzeentch finished this week but need flying stands
>>47458183
I might pick up a set just to have some terrain I can do
>>47458210
Other than Dark Eldar, Orks, and Tyranids.
>>47458210
The best part is now gw can release a bunch of overpowered stuff, wait till everyone buys it to remain competitive, and then nerf it by "clarifying" a rule.
And then you get the privilege of buying new models in a couple of months, just to make your army competitive again!
What a time to be alive!
>>47458257
but they're the bad guys!
>>47457495
Where'd you get that lamp?
when will we have official 40k branded foods?
like khorne flakes and shit, there's obviously a market for it
>>47458112
So how does deploying that work, they're all within a 12" bubble or can they be placed in a bit of a conga line witch each piece being 12" within another piece.
>>47458409
ALL parts must be within 12" of each other
>>47458112
>bargain basment price promethium pipes and mmo dumps
goody! And they come with a free mystery box too.
>>47458464
There could be ANYTHING in the mystery box, even nerfs for your favorite army!
>>47458112
So there's no way of getting inside one? Even though the box cover shows the hatch open and a marine halfway inside?
I miss the old "deep strike immobile units onto the table" rule from the previous edition. If they had been light buildings, you could have literally made drop pods out of them, just put dudes in them, hold them in reserves and then deep strike 10 dudes in a metal box onto the table.
>>47457721
It's more likely that Hive Fleet Leviathan will be destroyed and replaced with another Hive Fleet Behemoth, because GW has a fetish for red colour schemes.
>>47458406
>like khorne flakes and shit
OK, but what about Tzeentch and Slaanesh?
>>47458556
That would be perfect. Leviathan a shit, Kraken a shit, Behemoth is perfect
>>47457495
Damn anon, your room sure looks cozy
>>47458627
Changer of Wheys protein powder
Prince of Excess 128oz soda
>>47458524
Deepstriking earthshaker canons was the tits.
>>47457472
>>47457569
You guys should make sure they know about this by posting the relevant edition and page on their Facebook. In the meantime, because FAQs are supposed to be clarified rules interactions and not rules themselves, and there's already a perfectly clear rule handling this, any reasonable opponent will allow you to play them as Battle Brothers provided you bring the White Dwarf along with your codices.
>>47457019
I can't find the previous thread, wanted to link a post in it, can someone link the thread for me?
Is there a Chapter of Space Marines that are as close to the Ecclesiarchy as the Iron Hands are to the Ad Mech?
Is it just the Black Templars? I don't think they're seen as an unofficial part of the Ecclesiarchy like the Iron Hands are to the Ad Mech though.
I was trying to paint my deathwing termies from the dark vengance set, the only primer i had was the black citadel one, now every damn tutorial tell me to use the white one, i tried everything to scrub the primer away from model but nothing, did i completely fucked up?
>>47458848
It's all unofficial. The Templars believe in the Emperor, but follow their own crusades and ignore any orders from the church.
Any of you fucks in Leeds, and fancy a game?we can even go to the shit gw on briggate
>>47458848
I don't think so, but the Steel Confessors are the AdMech's official chapter.
Actually, looking at it now I think the Ecclisiarchy is the only one without their own SM chapter.
Inquisition: Red Hunters (Official), GK, Exorcists.
High Lords: Minotaurs
AdMech : Steel Confessors (Official)
>>47457065
Magnus is /x/
>>47458929
Yeah I was wondering if there was one. I want a group of Ecclesiarchy Space Marines to go along with Grey Knights.
Grey Knights'll show up when things get really bad with Chaos, but I want a force that's there for general stuff too.
>>47458890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZidrNe1u66w
>>47458848
The Ecclisiarchy isnt allowed to have a military. This is literally why the Sisters of Battle exist
>>47458848
Ecclesiarchy aren't allowed to have men at arms
>>47458987
>Grey Knights'll show up when things get really bad with Chaos, but I want a force that's there for general stuff too.
Exorcists, GK dont mingle with the ecclesiarchy as they are basically the secret arm of the ordo malleus and Exorcists are basically poor man's GK.
Fire Angels are probably the marine chapter with tightest links to the Ecclesiarchy.
>>47459045
>>47459052
They have militias, why not an unofficial chapter that happens to listen to every "request" from the Ecclesiarchy?
>>47459045
>>47459052
Yeah, but that doesn't mean they can't be really, really, really good friends with an army.
>But that's against the spirit of the rules! They wouldn't do that!
Look at the fucking Sisters of Battle.
>>47458890
I paint my deathwing dark grey with green shoulders. I only had black primer and got fed up trying to paint white. I never liked the bone coloured Deathwing anyways.
Letting models soak in 99% alcohol, then scrubbing with a tooth brush seems to get rid of most paint for me.
>New to 40k
>Want to try out the tabletop
>Don't own any minis yet
>Want to play a bunch of armies before I drop $500+ on a pile of plastic dolls
How do I make this happen?
>>47459089
Because they're smart enough not to make requests. Because they're not allowed to have men-at-arms and already have a personal army of bolter wielding power armored troops.
Get it through your head. Plenty of chapters including even the space sharks aid churches and SoB. Many other chapters even spit on or attack the Ecclesiarchy on sight due to bad blood, so all the more reason not to interact with astartes.
If you want a chapter that sucks church dick just make your own. You don't need an official SoB version of the Minotaurs.
>>47459183
go to any club or stuff like that and ask if someone is willing to let you try with his army
>>47459183
Dont drop $500 in one go, buy something you like, paint it and start from there. I've seen way too many people waste money by never touching their armies after buying large ammounts in one go because they just cant paint all that shit and lose interest quick and then end up selling it all, interestingly enough its also the kind of people that goes around bitching how expensive shit is.
Buying isnt the hobby, painting and playing is the hobby. Spend $50 a month, paint that shit and then buy something else.
>>47459183
Get tabletop sim and 40k mod.
>>47458929
>Steel Confessors are
Were, anon. They were. Then the rest of the Imperium found out about it and the jig was up. Now the chapter is another Marine chapter.
All Marine chapters are independent and Minotaurs aren't anymore tied to the High Lords than any other chapter. It's merely a case of back scratches. You do them favors and they get you dips of cool shit or other benefits, and look the other way when you do bad stuff.
>>47458848
There are chapters who have accepted the Ecclesiarchy's teachings. They're still independent of the Ecclesiarchy, but follow the Imperial Creed.
>>47459446
>Now the chapter is another Marine chapter
on paper.
but we all know where their loyalty secretly lies.
Can centurions use drop pods taken through Fast attack?
>>47459764
Yes, but remember the bulky rules. You can only fit 3 since each takes up 3 slots
>>47457065
Lion - /lit/
Fulgrim - /d/
Pert - /tg/
Khan - /o/
Russ - /asp/
Dorn - /his/
Curze - /r9k/
Sanguinius - /fit/
Manus - /out/
Angron - /k/
Guilliman - /adv/
Mort - /b/
Magnus - /x/
Horus - /pol/
Vulkan - /diy/
Corax - /mu/
Alpharius/Omegon - mod every board
>>47459932
We are Pert!that feels weird
>>47459651
Before they weren't even known, since they were a secret chapter. Sure, there's likely to be ties, but now they're in the registry and can be given orders and shit. And Admech can't run them how they like.
>reading soul drinkers
>muh soulspear
>muh dorn
>muh architect of fate ( totally the emperor and not tzeetch I swear guise)
>turns into a half spider and rips the chapter master in half in front of their eyes
>2/3 of them join him and don't blame him on the spot
HOW CAN THEY BE SO GODDAMN BLIND?
>>47459932
Who's emperor?
which board is each faction?
Can anyone rate this Tempestus list?
+HQ+
MTCS
-Power sword
-Bolt pistol
-Vox
-Medikit
-Plasma
-Plasma
-Taurox Prime
-Missile launcher
-Camo netting
-Smoke launchers
-Hunter killer missile
280
+Troops+
Scions
-5 Scions
-Power axe
-Bolt pistol
-Vox
-Melta
-Melta
-Taurox Prime
-Missile launcher
-Auto cannon
-Camo netting
-Smoke launchers
-Hunter killer missile
310
Scions
-5 Scions
-Power axe
-Bolt pistol
-Vox
-Melta
-Melta
-Taurox Prime
-Missile launcher
-Auto cannon
-Camo netting
-Smoke launchers
-Hunter killer missile
310
Scions
-5 Scions
-Power axe
-Bolt pistol
-Vox
-Volly
-Volly
-Taurox Prime
-Gatling cannon
-Camo netting
-Smoke launchers
-Hunter killer missile
300
Scions
-5 Scions
-Power axe
-Bolt pistol
-Vox
-Volly
-Volly
-Taurox Prime
-Gatling cannon
-Camo netting
-Smoke launchers
-Hunter killer missile
300
1,500 points
What's the difference between Cult Mechanicus and Skitaari?
Also are the Genestealer Cults a playable faction? I always thought they were the coolest dudes in the old books.
Never played 40k though i owned some dark eldar models, i lost them before my first game.
>>47460130
/b/
>>47460195
The sergeants are never going to use the axes, drop them. The smoke launchers aren't necessary since your tauroxes should be driving around, guns blazing all the time every time.
Have you looked at the in-codex formation? It's similar to your list
>>47460195
Clear up your formatting. I don't need to see all the wargear. Separate out vehicles and infantry.
Dump the power weapons. Too expensive. You're going to die the moment you get into melee anyways.
hunter killers are mostly a waste of points.
Why don't you have 4x plasma guns in the command squad?
And take 2 command squads in a CAD. More guns = better.
>>47460195
That's a very low model count for 1500, Anon.
And they're T3.
I'd ally with IG for cheap bodies and AP2 pieplates.
>>47460130
Emperor doesn't use 4chan.
>>47460386
Cult is the Tech Priests, and the robots and all that jazz.
Skitarii are the soldiers of the Omnissiah who are commanded by tech-priests and have cool guns and stuff.
Power-wise, I'd say that they're about high mid-tier.
Really, they should be combined into one codex any day now, hopefully.
I have no clue about the Genestealer cults though.
>>47460503
Mortarion is already /b/, it gave him cancer
>>47457405
^this anon here.
How's this for a squad loadout? Too pricey?
3x Ordo Malleus Inquisitors - 120
Hellrifles
1x Psyker - 10
1x Boltgun Acolyte - 5
1x Jokaero - 35
Razorback - 45
Psybolts
135 total points.
>>47460386
Genestealers are playable, yes. They're pretty new, it's a Genestealers vs. Deathwatch game box.
>>47458903
I'm from outskirts of Leeds, I need someone to teach me how to play :| just started again with Chaos
>>47460113
I firmly believe that during the Space Marine organ implantation, the process does something to the brain to turn the Astartes into fucking lemmings who will follow the leader to the exclusion of all else and only the strongest wills can think independently. It's the only thing that makes sense.
Hey guys, what do ye think of my 1500 points IG list?
Company command squad (190pts)
- Carapace armour
- Captain has Wrath of Cadia
- Lascannon
- (X2) Sniper rifle
- Astropath
- Chimera
Ministorum priest (25pts)
Primaris Psyker (75pts)
- Mastery level 2
>Rolling on biomancy; leading Bullgryns
Primaris Psyker (75pts)
- Mastery level 2
>Rolling on Divination; guiding Manticore missiles
Bullgryns (235pts)
- (X5) Bullgryns
- Slabshields and grenadier gauntlets
Veterans (75pts)
- Carapace armour
Veterans (75pts)
- Carapace armour
Veterans (120pts)
- Carapace armour
- (X3) Plasma gun
Veterans (120pts)
- Carapace armour
- (X3) Plasma gun
Leman Russ Demolisher (170pts)
Leman Russ Demolisher (170pts)
Manticore (170pts)
I've a lore question.
I seem to remember something like space marines trying to probe deep space and other galaxies to see what's there and they just found a whole bunch of orkz. Anyone knows what I'm talking about?
>>47460669
But the genestealers are also usable in real 40k right?
>>47460795
Why no special weapons on the other 2 vet squads?
>>47460602
It does feel too expensive just for a unit that's supposed to provide ranged support. But I guess that can be said for the whole scion codex it'll be supporting.
It will probably underperform or disappear under a s6 blast.
Instead, why not use a chimera from the same codex with double bolters, a storm bolter, and psybolt ammo? It's similar output for wayyy cheaper (as much as I'd love to see the sniper inquisitor deathstar of doom)
>>47460844
yes
>>47460810
I've got you m8, it's in the 4th ed codex.
>>47460795
I'd cut something to give the vets some special weapons. Lasguns aren't going to do a whole lot.
Maybe take the Detachment that lets the Russes give an infantry squad 4+ cover.
>>47460844
Yes. At the moment they're only availible through a very limited number of dectachments. (Copies of what came in the box.)
Rumor is that they're going to get and actual Codex at some point. But that might just be a rumor.
>>47460938
You are a super saint.
>>47460938
of its only been adrift 14000 years its still well within the milkyway.
>>47460875
You're probably right.
Alas, I was looking forward to making some ghillie-suited Scions.
>>47460941
>Maybe take the Detachment that lets the Russes give an infantry squad 4+ cover
Not him, but im quite intrested in this thing since im gonna run a leeman russ with my coinscripts
how does that work?
>>47460130
Moot.
>>47461023
>implying GW have ever been able to understand scale
>>47461023
>>47461166
This. Imagine 40k had numbers and scales that made sense.
So theres an ITC player finder that was just released, thats cool. Now you can connect with other players interested in playing the best 40k ruleset out there.
>>47461084
It's not the best. The formation requires:
>1 Leman Russ
>1 Commisar
>1 Infantry Squad (Note this is a IS like from a platoon, not a Vet Squad or Conscripts)\
Then the infantry squad gets a 4+ cover save while within like 4 inches of the Russ t in their formation.
The IS can then just stand in front of the Russ and block charges. Or run up the field at the same rate the Russ rumbles.
Not two great, but if you were going to run vanilla vets, you might as well.
I'm trying to remember correctly but didn't one of the rules for Corsairs include Chaos corruption?
>>47458112
TOUGHNESS? WOUNDS? SAVE?
HAVE THEY LOST THE FUCKING PLOT!?
>>47460938
Dark age of technology probe capable of going many times the speed the light
>>47461219
wasnt it like ALL the models within 4-6"?
>>47461327
It seems a fair bit tougher than a rhino, despite it actually being able to be brought down with Lasguns.
>>47461365
>it's just the voyager 1 probe with an FTL drive welded on
>>47461454
I don't know off the top of my head. I don't have the pic of the formation handy.
>>47457065
The fab 5
>>47461477
>human history if we were Orks.
>>47461467
>>47461327
The vehicle game in 40k is so utterly utterly fucked right now... even 4 bolted together pieces of sheet metal are considered "creatures" with toughness and wounds.
fucking mental...
>>47461239
They have a special perils table because they don't have spiritstones or the Laughing God's protection.
>1 Devoured: The psykers switches sides as his soul is torn out and replaced with a Slaaneshi daemon. They get all the rules associated with Daemon of Slaanesh and are now under the control of your opponent. Sucks to be you.
>2-3 Soul Wracked: your psyker and his unit are pinned, and your opponent may choose to change the target of the power that was cast, or cancel it.
>4-5 Warp Terrors: The unit and all Corsairs within 12" must take a Morale check on the worst two dice of 3d6 or start falling back, and considering how Corsairs don't like regroup tests this can absolutely cripple your army.
>6 The Eye of She-Who-Thirsts: Nothing happens straight away, but for the rest of the game your psykers now perils on any double.
(ripped from 1d4chan)
>>47461620
Isn't there a Warlord trait that involves the Cosasir Prince being obessessed with the powers that shouldn't be?
>>47459183
Start small, at 500 points. If you can convince a freind or two who is willing to start the hobby with you, that's even better.
Choose the army that appeals to you most, esspecialy in terms of lore and look. Do keep in mind the rules of the army though, the last thing we need is another shitposting ork player.
Then, learn rules, and build 500 point army list.
Buy that list, doing so over time if need be. Assemble and paint all of list.
Play a few games with it, and then continue to expand.
Honestly, you should very rarely be spending anywhere close to 500$ on normal GW stuff in one purchase. The people who don't understand this are the ones who bitch about GW prices, when the problem is really on their end and their in ability to spend wisely. Well, poorfags also bitch, but their poorfags, and either should get a job or an education so they can get a better job, or should learn to cut back on expenses.That said, GW could certainly find some cost cutting ways and then pass those savings onto the consumer, however there prices are far from outrageous. Hell, stuff like X-wing actually costs more per basic model.
>>47461209
fuck off itc shill
>>47461675
Do we really have to go through this every time someone even mentions ITC?
It's getting quite old.
>>47461327
>>47461550
Maybe it's a sign that they're getting rid of vehicle rules completely in the next ed Vehicles will just have toughness and armor saves like everything else.
>>47461713
my god...
>>47461705
its not the mentioning of ITC tho
>>47461713
>>47461733
It'd make sense with the whole "Rule condensing" next ed Rumors.
T6 3+ Chimeras when.
>>47461713
>next edition they will add another chart for vehicle types that comes into effect during damage rolls
>vehicles become nigh impossible to kill
>>47461645
Ah, that'd be "Wielder of Profane Power" for the Prince. You get access to Maelific Daemonology (and an extra Mastery Level). It's a pretty shit choice for Corsairs though since you perils on any doubles (due to being a non-daemon casting Maelific) and Corsairs have the terrible aforementioned perils table.
>>47461823
Would Orks get better then?
>>47461952
ork vehicles would become monstrous creatures :^]
>>47462012
T5 2W 5+ :^)
>>47462012
They are monstrous, is there a model/rules for a squiggoth?
>>47461023
they had warp drives then, its way past the milky way. Too bad thats not canon now :(
>>47462128
from what i recall it's largely terrible
>>47457019
>Omegle sex with lesbian SoB players Edition
Did I miss something good while driving home from work?
>>47461705
we said fuck off
>>47461713
maybe? its obvious
or, theres a guy there that doesnt know what AV is.... also probable
>>47461952
orks would get a new vehicle type
>ramshackle construct
-the vehicle has no hull points/wounds and can't be immobilized conventionally
-on each movement phase you decide whether or not you move, if you don't you make a toughness test, if you pass you move as normal, on a fail you scatter 1d6" and become immobilized
>>47462288
>if you don't you make a toughness test
i meant if you do, whatever
you could just faq it
>>47462116
Ork vehicles would just have terminator stats. Hell, they would probably get SnP.
>>47458112
>they make space marine armour out of the same shit as containers
>>47462232
Check the last thread.
>>47462288
Don't give them ideas.
>>47462613
:^)
>>47462270
>Guy in charge of making rules can't wrap his head around adding Weapon Str +D6
>Just refers to the handy-dandy chart in the BRB
Mein Got...
>>47462785
honestly i couldn't for the life of me wrap the idea of AV around my head until my first apoc battle and thats simply because i play nids and dont know what it is
>>47458112
>Archeotech Ammunition
Strength 4 Lasguns FRFSRF shooting into AV10? I don't know how to feel about this. I also wonder what kind of T/W/Sv a Leman Russor Banebladewould have considering how many wounds that container has.
>>47462844
>30 devilgaunts w/ archeotech ammuniton
oh baby
>>47461675
OH HEY, IT'S MY BLUEBERRY FUCKLEPUFF BITCHBOY. ARE YOU HERE TO RUIN ANOTHER THREAD WITH YOUR BURNING HATRED OF ALL THINGS ITC? HOW IS YOUR TAU ARMY GOING ALONG FAGGOT, HOW MANY TOURNAMENTS WERE RUINED FOR YOU BY THE LOSS OF INFINITE DRONE FACTORY AND MARKERLIGHTS TO VOID SHIELDS?
FUCK OFF BACK TO BLUEBERRYLAND, HOME OF SHITHEADS THAT CAN'T COMPETE BECAUSE THEIR BULLSHIT DOESN'T FLY IN ITC.
>>47462825
do the people in your area just avoid using tanks/walkers or were you never bothered enough to actually attack them?
>>47462906
sorry but >>47461209 is a shill, plain and simple
suck my donger
>>47462927
>>47462906
Please dont do this again
>>47458038
>The Start Collecting boxes are a step in the right direction.
The start collecting boxes are an excellent deal. Especially since most of them are your core, not random bullshit GW wants to push despite being shit units.
>>47462927
While you are correct, it's best just to give them no attention.
Even telling them to fuck off tells them that it's working, because you clearly read it.
>>47458091
If I'm more than one box behind, I get overwhelmed. I need to know that I'll be done at the end before I can will myself to spend an afternoon painting.
>>47459183
Vassal or Tabletop sim w/40k stuff is an excellent virtual alternative to try out all sorts of 40k related things before you drop the dosh on em.
>>47458301
>GW finally starts updating rules digitally instead of leaving them to rot until the next codex
>you still find a reason to complain
I despise you. Even if you disagree with the ruling, the FAQs are the best thing GWs done for the game in years. They almost atone for superheavies.
>>47461209
Cool, maybe now I won't ever have to play against someone who wants to use ITC rules anymore.
Oh, wait, I already don't, because my FLGS isn't shit.
>>47461327
Didn't you know? Vehicles are so last edition. We don't use vehicles anymore.
>>47459183
Print little pictures of the models and cut them out, find a friend who's down.
>>47461327
>I love vehicles
>I hate Monstrous Creatures
>I play Tau
wake me up
>>47462572
>everything with a 3+ save in the universe is the same material
You're a moron.
I remember someone talking about one of the 40k books in which one of the characters connects with the machine spirit of the ship they're on and completely decimate an Eldar ship in the middle of a warp storm. Does anyone have any idea of where it's from?
>>47463246
No, no, he's probably right. That's something the Imperium would do.
Oh boy /tg/. I visited my flgs' 40k night and I was not prepared for this...
>>47463260
Priests of Mars, one of the priests connects with the ship and realizes the spirit is sentient and wakes dark age tech no one knew was there.
>>47463288
>>47463288
Regale us
There is considerably less shit flinging in this thread than there is in the official dakka dakka forums.
God, I thought you fuckers were bad, what a bunch of passive aggressive little shitheels.
>>47462908
most of my introductory battles were against armour and they never explained it to me, they just did the maths for me which left me severely crippled because they could've been lying for all I know
I had to actually come here and ask how the fuck it works because I simply couldn't be fucked to read the mess that the BRB is
Dorn /diy/
Yo, What are the best books to read?
I have a 3gb folder of 40k books and started the Horus Heresy ones, though I hear very mixed reviews based on the author writing each one.
>>47463340
Anything cap worthy?
>>47462989
i'm da biggest and da strongest dere is
>>47463340
any kind of forum with permanent accounts is bound to be a goddamn shitshow, faggots get all uppity because they've been posting longer than you or whatever
at least here pulling the age card just gets you laughed at
>>47463340
Yep.
While it may not be perfect, the anonymous image/text board format the chans employ is far and away the best system for discussion on the internet. It eliminates so many things that cause issues in online discussion that even when people try to stir up shit, like what happens here sometimes, it's still better than most other sites.
>>47463288
Go on.
>>47463411
nah, just a bunch of irritating little shits. Real snarky bastards too.
>>47463340
Forum cultures are toxic as fuck, anon. Best stick to anonymous message boards where people can directly express their annoyance instead of being seething little shits.
>>47463433
>>47463415
weird but true.
>>47463415
Also mods on more traditional forums tend to turn into petty little micromanaging tyrants who have zero interest in the spirit of the rules over letter, and don't give a shit about actually trying to improve the tone of the community.
>>47462613
What happened in the last thread i went there and then theres nothing about lesbians and omegale did i miss some awesome porn or something?
>>47463305
>>47463336
>>47463419
Well I'm a complete newbie, but Basically I've been painting all my shit for half a year and never really had an urge to play until now.
So I walk in and basically 80% of the group is a of middleschool/early highschool teenagers playing with poorly painted or completely grey armies with barely any understanding of the rules. I'm talking not a single highlight or wash on any model out of like 6 different players. Then, I even knew the rules better than them, and helped them with rules clarifications and I don't even play.
Then there's the misinformation about the lore. It felt like they knew nothing about the setting. One guy who was PLAYING khorne daemons didn't even know why he had no psykers in his army and at first wasn't sure if he had any psykers.
Then there's the smell. Jesus christ my throat burns.
>>47463478
Nah. Just an Anon pretending to be a lesbian so he said. Also posted his chat with one chick.
>>47463527
okay so nothing important what ever.
>>47463507
>Then there's the smell. Jesus christ my throat burns.
This is a reason why if I ever play the game I'm bringing disinfectant spray, or go full Krieger.
>Then there's the misinformation about the lore. It felt like they knew nothing about the setting. One guy who was PLAYING khorne daemons didn't even know why he had no psykers in his army and at first wasn't sure if he had any psykers.
Sounds like Khârn needs to slap some a kid or two around.
Is it true that devastator squads only come with only 2 of each heavy weapons bit? what kind of bullshit is that?
>>47463688
>Is it true that devastator squads only come with only 2 of each heavy weapons bit?
It'd be so great if you could look at the product online, if only there was a site that had all the info..If only..
>>47463751
Not him, but they don't tell you that on the official site.
>>47463751
don't get your balls in a twist, twilight princess.
tonight i was reminded why i never play in tournaments
>Be me, play IG. He played Eldar
>1500pt league. No FW. No Unbound
>He gets first turn
>pops my knight, pops two chimeras, and hydras with WraithKnight and jetbikes
>my turn, everything into knight
>survives with 2 wounds
>next turn three squads of warp spiders kill 4 russes
>jetbikes kill off two vet squads
it wasn't even a challenge. he could've gone the whole game without the jetbikes in the first place and it would've essentially gone the same.
man fuck this game i swear
>>47463688
The product images show the kit with a variety of heavy weapons, which are included in the box. They did not deceive you in any way.
You chose to buy two devastator boxes because you are a WAACfag and need to have four grav cannons
>>47463778
yes they do
>Speaking of heavy weapons, the Devastator squad features an *incredible* array of the Imperium’s finest. Included in this squad:
>Two Space Marine Grav-Cannon and Back Pack Assemblies;
>Two Space Marine Missile Launcher and Back Pack Assemblies;
>Two Space Marine Multi Melta and Back Pack Assemblies;
>Two Space Marine Lascannon and Back Pack Assemblies;
>Two Space Marine Plasma Cannon and Assemblies;
>Two Space Marine Heavy Bolter and Back Pack Assemblies;
>One each of Combi Plasma, Combi Melta, Combi Grav, Combi Flamer, Bolter and Storm Bolter;
>One each of Power Fist, Power Sword, Power Axe, Lightning Claw, Chainsword and Thunder Hammer;
>One each of Plasma pistol, Bolt pistol, Grav pistol.
>>47463507
Kids will be kids. Jeez, don't get your panties in a knot.
>>47463812
fuck me for wanting to have a uniform composition right?
>>47463846
use the spare missile launchers from your tactical squads to have four missile launchers
>>47463812
You sound like a total asshole.
You work for GW?
>>47463787
Sucks man. But next time ignore the Wraitknight. It may have 2 D-cannons but those cannons can only take down one unit per turn. Better to focus your firepower on his weaker units. You know, the ones can kill more than one unit per turn?
Basically you got DISTRACTION CARNIFEX'D into oblivion. Eldar are still OP but you can't just "Shoot the big one", especially when the big one is notoriously hard to kill.
>>47463867
>Paying list for tactical squads
naw, j/k, that actually a good idea mang
>>47463871
gw isn't more evil than any other share holder owned corporation
>>47463871
>Someone corrected me? I must call him an asshole to validate my sense of self worth!
>>47461327
>TOUGHNESS? WOUNDS? SAVE?
>>47461550
> "creatures"
Yeah, just like an Artillery Gun, which is also an immobile unit that operates in an extremely similar manner.
The logic is actually pretty solid, especially the majority of hte Vehicle Damage table wouldn't make sense when applied to an empty container like the "explodes!" result (compared to fuel lines in a vehicle, for example, which would actually explode).
If models could actually get INSIDE of them and it had a Transport Capacity, I'd be confused, but they don't, so a Gun Carriage stat-line with a few extra Wounds is pretty reasonable and rules-efficient.
>>47463889
>ignore wraithknight
i ran a list with 8 vehicles and as a gargantuan creature can pick different targets. i couldn't ignore it. besides, at the time the only other units on the board were the jetbikes and unless he turbo boosted he wasn't getting rear armor, which he hadn't so that turn they weren't a threat.
there was really nothing more i could've done
>>47463915
which still makes them irredeemably evil.
C'mon guy, just cause you work for GW doesn't mean you gotta spend all fucking day sucking corporate cock. Plenty of people complain about their jobs.
>>47463889
you meme loving fool you need to reread his post anon; the eldar player overpowered him quite easily turn 1 and he couldn't do anything. the wraithknight probably caused a huge amount of damage and with those ranged D shots it's damn hard to ignore.
>>47463787
i guess you need more infantry, more units in reserve, and a way to get in his face rather then doing a gunfight
>>47463943
but if you dislike them so much why do you buy their product?sisters will be last chanced in july
>>47463787
Better deployment next time, I suppose?
>>47463688
On the one hand, I've always thought that was bullshit. Who the hell wants to mix different weapons in their squad? The player friendly thing to do would be to make four-packs of heavy weapons with which to upgrade a tac squad. Hell, the GW friendly thing to do would have been to sell each heavy weapon as an upgrade sprue, which would have been expensive as fuck to make Devastators out of, but nice for people who maybe want something other than a missile launcher in their tac squad.
On the other hand... it used to be one of each bit.
And the bits were metal.
They learn... slowly.
>>47463956
>and a way to get in his face rather then doing a gunfight
Too bad the eldar also out melee the guard/ knights.
>>47464011
Because i like their product.
Its like plastic crack.
>>47463956
>more infantry
would've been mowed down by three jetbikes with 20 str6 ap4 re-roll to hit and ignore cover
>reserves
i should mention part of the tournament was no allies and IG dont' have much in the way of reserving that's worth a damn. i could've brought in a vendetta i guess?
>>47464011
There is no reason to discontinue a product line just cause it isn't selling. You've still got the molds and back inventory, just make available through online only.
>>47464019
thought of this. the only difference i could've made would have been to sit as far back as possible so as not to expose rear russ armour. but then i'd have the issue of not having position to shoot the knight which in turn would've just picked them off over the course of a few turns.
>>47458112
>time to ask if Skit-Mech can abuse it with their mysterious objective shenanigans!
Sure, I'd buy a 40 point shield generator or a 40 point bunker for my Rangers that gives them 30" range Rapid Fire Heavy Bolters with Precision Shots.
Does anybody still use strongholds?
Do any other armies besides Imperium have static defenses?
>>47464078
>You've still got the molds and back inventory, just make available through online only.
it's been online only for years already
>>47464104
I assume that doesnt work if you buy them as a fortification as the relic allows you to reveal and choose one mysterious OBJECTIVE, so first you'd have to agree with someone to replace objective markers with containers.
>>47463287
use materials they use for armour for an armoured container?
that's something everyone would do.
>>47462875
>S6 Fire Warrior shooting
hohh
Anyone know how the shock trooper stuff from wargames factory works? It's got the 40k aethetic, but I need to know if it'l scale with IG.
>>47457495
What desks? I'm using two linnmons next to each other, and want to upgrade.
>>47464011
>sisters still haven't gotten last chance'd
>bretonnia, tomb kings, and a lot of other whfb is gone
>>47464035
well they are the current king of meta... it would be an uphill battle for everyone.
>>47464059
welp, i guess you gotta die well anon. i know that feeling of being utterly hopeless, being torn apart piece by piece and doing nothing much all game.
>>47464078
>back inventory
What the fuck do you think they've been selling for years? Their back inventory you retarded fuck, they could make more but that'd be stupid as shit when the entire line is made of pewter which they've stop using for years and the fact that it hasnt sold that well since 3rd edition.
There is no point in keeping pewter sisters, this is the year or next where they either drop the line or update it because keeping it will be a loss as you're wasting capital that you could be using making a product that sells.
>>47464126
Define "static."
Tau have their tidewall fortifications but at least a few of those can actually move.
>>47464251
I just mean things that count as fortifications. You can take as many as you want now, right?
>>47464059
You got cheated hard if 3 bikes were putting out 20 shots
>>47464311
*three squads of bikes
to clarify. which also happened to be behind a void shield generator
>>47464293
1 fort per CAD
>>47464126
>Do any other armies besides Imperium have static defenses
Every army has static defenses. Every single army can take imperial defenses. The only thing that is limited is that of the Tau. They have their own special defenses which they can use ontop of imperial ones that only they can operate/field.
>>47464214
next time i'll stick to my rule of no tournaments. i don't play top tier armies so it's essentially giving someone else my money.
>>47464341
Unless you take any number of fortification sets that come with multiple fortifications from the likes of the Stronghold Assault book, etc.
>>47464390
yeah tournaments are not for the faint of heart but not everyone is out to kick puppies. i got my shit kicked hard at a tournament by a white scars player but we got along fine. i know a few people like them because you can get a few games in that day.
i'm joining up with an escalation league at the local GW next week. i don't wanna be a dick but i feel like i need a list i can change bits on the fly if i come up against a strong list or grey knights
>>47464420
those exist? welp i learned something new, thanks
the more i think about it, the more skyhammer annihilation force seems like a point sink.
Having an assault squad assault on the turn they deep strike is useful, but the devs being able to fire after a drop are kind of garbage.
Lascannons would be better positioned downfield, multi-melta's are an expensive way to pop a vehicle, Heavy Bolters are useless, Grav-Cannons and Plasma are wasted against a squad embedded in cover, and there are less expensive ways to pop a transport/light vehicle
>>47464341
Oh, so forts aren't detachments?
Huh.
>>47464645
>multi-melta's are an expensive way to pop a vehicle
>Grav-Cannons ... are wasted against a squad embedded in cover
Don't worry, you're just retarded. Skyhammer is crazy broken.
Is Chainsaw Warrior part of 40k canon?
>>47464645
The Raven Guard formation of Vanguard Veterans is more powerful if you're looking to only do melee. Kit out one squad with Thunder Hammers and 2 storm shields to take down GC/SHW, and kit the other out with your choice of Lightning Claws or Power Axes. You only need TWO storm shields to soak wounds from AP2/D overwatch, or pitiful melee, anything more is just a waste of points.
It might also be useful to take a Grav Pistol on one of your sergeants, so you can bring your big targets down to your same initiative.
I keep dicking around making joke and theme lists instead of trying to come up with one that I can afford/ isn't terrible.
New Ork player here. Just got the start collecting box.
FLGS is starting a slow-grow league that starts at 500pts
I'm planning on giving the boyz shootas since they'll be footslogging. Future boyz purchases will probably get sluggas, since they'll be riding into the fray on a Battlewagons or Trukks.
I have no clue on what to give the Nobz.
I also have no idea what to give the Deff Dread. I'm thinking about swapping out both the big shootas for Skorchas, but I'm not sure if it's the best idea.
>>47464533
>those exist?
Imperial Strongpoint:
>1-3 Imperial Bastions.
>1-5 Aegis Defence Lines.
>0-1 Skyshield Landing Pad.
>0-1 Honoured Imperium.
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defence Network:
>1-3 Wall of Martyrs Imperial Bunkers.
>1-4 Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defence Lines.
>1-3 Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defence Emplacements.
>0-2 Wall of Martyrs Firestorm Redoubts.
>0-2 Wall of Martyrs Vengeance Weapons Battery.
Void Relay Network:
>1-3 Promethium Relay Pipes.
>1-3 Void Shield Generators.
>0-1 Honoured Imperium.
I believe the rules for the Tau fortifications gives them the ability to take the pieces individually or as part of a larger complex similar to above. The new armoured containers lets you have, as I remember, 1-3 crates with ammo boxes and fuel drums for each.
Personally I've just gone with individual fortifications, since about all of my armies are by theme more mobile than static. My Guard just has a bastion with quad gun and some extra barricades bought for it. My Chaos has a bastion with a relay and void shield (modeled as a Silver Tower of Tzeentch). My 30k SW have a bunker with quad gun and some extra barricades.
>>47463915
Thats arguable. Endtimes -->pull the rug out was a pretty dick move.
No other major TT game manipulates rules and balance to sell models. GW is pretty dirty bro, theres no denying it.
Any Eldar Cosairs generators? I feel like making some Space Elf pirates.
>>47464826
>No other major TT game manipulates rules and balance to sell models.
This is LITERALLY what Warmahorde Unit Attachments are. LITERALLY.
>>47464856
Nancy's on the rag again.
Personally I'm convinced GW is just a high profile money laundering firm. They have the perfect product for it, something with a 1000 to 2000 percent markup, small portable, susceptible to shrinkage with international shipping to obfuscate the paper and shipping trail.
>>47464939
One can only hope the profits are coming from drugs and not child pornography like they used to.
>>47464826
>No other major TT game manipulates rules and balance to sell models.
So why have Eldar always been OP? Why do most new minis have crap rules? The only thing sells get you is having your codex be updated with every edition.
>>47464883
I sure wish we had less nonsensical retards on this board.
>>47464769
The first list I ever wrote was an unbound army of Scout and Armoured Sentinels
I never built it, but you can imagine my glee when that list was legitimized by the Sentinel Mont'ka Formation
>>47465000
nice trips, maybe they will sharpen that razor wit of yours.
>>47464939
This wouldn't surprise me at all. It still amazes me to this day that there's an entire BLACK MARKET dedicated solely to selling fake chinese duplicates of games workshop's retardedly overpriced models.
>>47464982
>GW writes OP rules
>"hurr, they're trying to push their plastic crack"
>GW writes shitty rules
>"durr, GW can't into rules"
Don't worry, anon, the doomsday preppers have all their bases covered. When GW finally fails, they can all rejoice that they were right all along.
>>47464826
If rules are changed to sell models, then why were Mutilators/Warp Talons/Dinobots such absolute ass?
>>47465025
The irony is there success. I don't think games workshop ever really intended itself to make a legitimate profit.
Its kind of like the movie "The Producers", success brought more financial scrutiny and brought interpol down on their heads.
>>47465024
>too stupid to make sense
>too stupid to capitalize
>too much of a loser to not shitpost
You got some nice trips too. What else triggers your autistic fancy besides consecutive sets of numbers?
>>47465060
LOL, look again, fucking faggot
>>47457495
focking prawns
>>47465060
>>too much of a loser to not shitpost
And how does not doing that make one a loser?
>>47457019
>Omegle sex with lesbian SoB players.
I'm not even surprised.
>>47464771
Any tips at all? Most stuff I can find by googling is from 2013 or older.
Ideally I'd like to do something like pic related (dakkajets and bombas optional), but I know how difficult it can be to play a mechanized Ork army.
