Does somebody have a copy of this? I don't want to make an account just to read it.
Please tell me this isn't actually a thing. Good god, I'm a lefty liberal faggot and I think that looks cringe as fuck.
wtf even is this shit
I can't believe that's real
>>47456948
tumblr.comweak bait
>>47456948
Beware, young apprentice! For it is forbidden knowledge you pursue. This is a truly dark and terrible tome, the ravings within enough to drive even the wisest sages and mightiest wizards mad! Tread carefully, lest you succumb to such great and horrible evil yourself!
>>47456948
The Inquisition can't come soon enough
>>47456948
>dungeoneering and adventuring
>safe spaces
Thank goodness I don't have to deal with people like that.
The book is critical, James Desborough is pretty much blacklisted by most modern hipster game devs for making a card game about tentacles and anime school girls as well as other games with erotic themes.
>>47456948
Jina Bandia means "Fake name" in swahili.
The author says they're pseudonyms, but realistically it's probably either poe's law or /pol/ false flagging*tips tinfoil hat*
>>47457121
That doesn't make it not cringy as fuck.
>>47456972
>>47456973
>>47456974
>>47457235
>It reads more like a guidebook for racists and sexists on how to deal with uppity liberals in their gaming group.
Well I guess that makes sense. I don't really mind it then so much as I'm just glad I don't need it
Here you are guys
From a cursory read it doesn't seem too bad desu familia
>>47457415
Lord help me, I'm going in.
>>47457415
Thank you, whoever you are. This is wonderful.
>>47457415
Never have a I read so many words and had them say stuff that's either common sense or basically nothing at all.
>>47457415
>females should roll 2d6 for Strength, but get +1 Wisdom
>men tend to concentrate at the ends (low and high). Roll male intelligence on 1d10+1d8 (minimum 3) and for women 3d6 as normal
Nothing I love more than exacting gender-based realism in my knights and wizards games.
>>47457415
The game states that the only winning move is not to play.
>>47457556
>females get +1 wisdom
>>47457415
Ok, so I only scimmed a few pages, but i get the feeling like this guy if giving answers to imaginary problems.
>>47457415
but why, tho
>>47457415
God. I finished the whole thing... I feel so empty
>>47457415
The guy basically admits diversity ploys are unwinnable and compares them to the Kobayashi Maru test.
The only thing I don't really like is he thinks you should actually use different methods for abstracting stats based on gender. Seems totally pointless.
Overall it's refreshing to see someone basically say "yeah no matter what you do people will get buttmad" but he really didn't need so many words to say it.
>>47457415
Alright, finished reading it.
Funny how someone promoting diversity apparently doesn't consider race to be an arbirary construct.
>The English and the French may have a strong historical antipathy for each other but they look the same and culturally have much they can point to in common.
I hate you. I hate you with all my guts.
Kudos to him for recognizing legitimate racism due to objective morality system in D&D. That said...
>coming from a different country gives the same penalty as evil Alignment or racial hatred.
That's some late 19th century nationalistic bullshit, unless we're playing in not!Balkans.
The sci-fi ones are great, though.
>gender differences
Meh, I've seen worse. He seems to have put some thought on the balance, I'll give him that.
Still, it's funny for him to give us those tables and yet ask not to use them (which I agree with, since PCs shouldn't be slowed down by statistics imo)
The parts on sexuality, infirmity and diversity were quite good.
Overall, a nice read. It gives some decent pointers for portraying fantasy or sci-fi societies.
Thanks for sharing, anon.
>>47457663
That about sums up the modern left
>>47457235
>racists and sexists
>uppity liberals
there's a difference?
>>47459391
I'd bet good money the author is /pol/ with his own set of imaginary problems.
>>47457415
>Varg
>Ignore them
3 pages in and the author is already ass hurt over politics outside of tabletop gaming.
>>47457599
Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
>>47460081
Varg made an RPG though.
>>47459955
I'll take your money in that wager. He's a self-described left-anarchist/socialist.
Nice to see all the SJWs getting buttmad already.
>>47460549
>anarchist
>& socialist
Troll, now one is this retarded.
Right?
I chose to view this book as satire.
>>47460594
Anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism are in fact political movements. Very fringe, but they exist.
>>47460657
But that seems like such an oxymoron. You want to destroy the government and then allow it to control major industries?
>>47460702
I'm almost sure most of the times anarchists also want to destroy major industries.
Anarcho-socialism and its brothers want local governements with direct democracy, a bit like soviets in the early years of the USSR.
>>47460702
I believe the anarcho-socialist goal is for major industries to be owned and controlled by the workers directly, through consensus and direct democracy.
>>47460702
Marxism and anarchism emerged roughly the same time. Marxism asserted that the government needed to take control of all business, then make everyone equal and then eliminate the state, so that people could work together to do everything.
Anarchism, by contrast, thought people could handle shit cooperatively without the state.
"Socialism" used here just means that the people who work land also own that land, and that the community owns factories and so on together.
That anarchism actually predates so-called "anarcho-capitalism" by quite a while.
>>47460657
They're much bigger than "anarcho-capitalism" everywhere but the US, and arguably here too.
>>47457748
Well, ideally, men should get a bonus to Strength and women should get a bonus to Charisma.
>>47460835
But men are only stronger relative to women and women only seem more charismatic to men who want to fuck them.
>>47460835
Why is that ideal? I'd say ideally people just put their stats in places that make sense for what their character is and if they're non-human they get a bonus or penalty somewhere
>>47457415
>>47459116
>19th century nationalistic bullshit
>how dare characters in a fantasy setting not have the nuanced views of nationhood that are currently widely accepted in the 21st century
>how dare cultural friction be implied to exhist
whut
>>47460835
>>47460849
-4 str (actually, 1d8+1d6 str) made sense in its original context, back in OD&D where str penalties and bonuses don't actually affect to-hit chances or damage chances.
INSTEAD, it affected what weapons you could use, and weapons accounted for the majority of your combat chances. Women could use daggers better than men (+1 to hit on a 2d6 scale not bad, like the equivalent of +2 to +3) and could use swords, maces, and lances just fine, they had trouble with the big heavy duty weapons unless they were unusually strong.
>>47456948
20 bux says James Desborough and friends are false-flagging conservatives or libertarians or whatever shit dumb fuck 20-somethings like these days.
>>47460849
True, but speaking "relatively," humans are what everything in the books are judged by.
>>47460874
I was saying "ideally" in terms of people who use gender-based stats. Men factually feel emotions to a higher degree but are less expressive than women. It's why you always see women being the ones who work at check-out lines, or as greeters, or any job where the position entails greeting and talking with customers/people on a daily basis.
>>47457121
The Tentacle Bento minis are actually pretty nice though as far as pseudo anime stuff goes.
>>47460835
Nah, that's the wrong way to go about it. Just have the physical representation of the character, as suggested by the stats, be different based on understanding of the differences between the sexes. IE, a man with 13 strength would appear moderately fit, a woman with 13 strength would be ripped.
And as far as charisma goes, it would probably be more appropriate to give a bonus to charisma rolls for women when dealing with reproductive age men, and only then to women who are explicitly attractive. Maybe as a feat?
>>47461015
The problem isn't that one nation views the members of another as shit heels, the problem is that there is one nation that is literally evil no matter what
>>47459116
Race isn't an arbitrary construct though. It's extremely relevant to multiple fields, most importantly (even, especially on the individual level) medicine. That's not to say that laws or institutions should take race into account (they should not), but race is absolutely a real thing, and denying it hurts the quality of life for everyone.
>>47457556
>>47457748
What part of " it’s not suggested that you actually use the following statistics." did you dopes not understand?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Desborough_%28game_designer%29
>Desborough has been quoted or used as a pundit on men's issues in various places, including The Stream on Al Jazeera.[7] Some of Desborough's work has been criticised for being "hateful, violent and misogynistic", leading critics to petition game companies to drop his work.[8][9]
I think it's telling that like 50% of so-called SJW content is actually made by butthurt MRAs and alt-right fags pretending to be SJWs.
Also lmao at pic related
>>47461370
But he's an egalitarian socialist. Isn't it funny how ANYONE who opposes the women first rhetoric is suddenly an "alt-right MRA"?
>>47460549
Because nobody has ever false flagged online, right? That would just be unthinkable.
pretty pointless to try and guess at what the author actually thinks without a more consistent ideological footprint, i-m-o, t-b-h, senpai-I-am
>>47461370
From what I see the Alt-Right and MRA/MGTOW types have some overlap but are still pretty hostile.
>>47461398
>"I'm an egalitarian socialist fighting against the matriarchy"
>>47461370
Assmad feminist who can't take it when their idealogy is ridiculed for the shit it is detected.
>>47459116
>but they look the same
Nope, rosbifs are ugly as sin.
>>47456948
Isn't James Desborough some kind of memer?
>>47461529
Dude, it's nearly 2 am, you should be sleeping.
I should too, btw.
Good night.
>>47460828
Anarchism emerged before, and communism emerged before marxism too.
Pre-marxism communists were technically anarchists, since there was no state in their ideal society.
>>47457235
>socialist pragmatically
>>47461217
>the problem is that there is one nation that is literally evil no matter what
Yes, it's called Germany
>>47457415
>I just want a world where I can do whatever I want and no one will criticize me
nice opener
>>47461370
I don't care what kind of shitty new age movement you belong to.
There is a divine order to things put in place by god. All of you are against this order and will regret your decisions if you do not repent and change your ways.
>>47461605
I think you mean Perfidious Albion.
>>47461450
Look man I think anyone who would call themselves an anarchist socialist is probably a fucking faggot, that doesn't fake feminism right, nor does it make everyone who disagrees with it mysoginists
Test
>>47461753
*make feminism right
>>47461748
They are cowardly and greedy, but not THAT evil.
>>47461771
Oh yes they are.
>>47457415
This is pretty uninteresting but the conclusion is good.
>Addressing issues of diversity and inclusion is a Kobayashi Maru scenario. There is simply no way to ‘win’ in this situation and in regard to these issues. If you’re not inclusive – regardless of the reason – you’re bad. If you are inclusive – you’ve almost certainly done it wrong. If you represent bad things happening in your game world (rape, torture, prejudice), it may well be assumed you condone or support those things. If you do give an inch, a mile will be demanded.
>The only way to win may be not to play.
>>47461817
Compared to the germans who are hellbent on the destruction of civilizations ? They are tame.
>>47457415
i actually think this is kinda interesting, at least the social class chart and how it would affect social stats negatively
it's a pretty cool concept that i don't really see often in games where worldbuilding really matters and could make a nice starting point for some outcast-type characters
it also reminds me to vary in different aspects that i often forget when describing characters populating stories
i mean fuck agenda pushing but having different types of characters only adds in extra points in my book
>>47461718
Go preach to someone who cares, Luther.
>>47461015
the problem isn't that they distrust their neighbouring nations(even if it's a bit silly in a medieval-inspired setting, where people regularly came under control of one king or another due to conquests and successions; the current nation is a pretty modern notion)
It's that they dislike their neighbours as much as literal demons.
>>47461253
>race is absolutely a real thing
I didn't say imaginary, but arbitrary; it's very real, but there is no objective criterion to determine it, just some people agreeing on which set of inheritable traits makes such or such race.
(the same issue exists concerning animals, too)
the biggest problem with shit like this is it's part of the whole "gender war" shit that isn't really applicable to /tg/
Remember that gamergators "migrated" from this board to infinite chan's /tg/ board because we were all "Sjws" and shit. We weren't mind you.
This is either gonna be "stop having fun now" like that idiotic "play DnD like a feminist" article where you prewarn players and tell them what traps they're gonna run into before they do because reasons or its gonna be an edgy fedora tipping womyns are bad and need to get out reee screen by a faggot.
>look up publishing company
>postmortemstudios
>they made a 5E module explicitly to thumb their nose at 4chan called Cathedral of Misogyny
Is it bad that I am now morbidly curious about how bad this is?
>>47457235
What a disappointment, humanity.
From the glory to the Space Age, to the humiliation of the Safe Space Age.
It wasn't supposed to go this way.
>>47461986
Features are just a tell, the objective criteria is genetic markers
>>47462218
But I want to make space safe from xeno scum
>>47462174
>cathedral of mysoginy
Is it on drivethrurpg? I feel very tempted to report it for being offensive.as a joke of course
But why do you think it's making fun of 4chan, there allot of sites like us that hate feminists.
the tao of triggered keeps on turning
>>47462350
He explicitly calls the site out by name on the store page entry and also considered the meme as the modern day pun. I am going to need a gallon of bleach by the time I get through looking at all the things he published
>>47462174
I think it's more thumbing their nose at the people freaked out by 4chan.
>>47462300
It doesn't change the issue: Try to find me a list of human races and the associated genetic markers. There is no concensus on those topics.
And I'm a nurse, I know very well that people are more or less prone to some diseases depending on their origin (funniest example so far being french people with a lot of varicose veins, due to ww1).
>>47462470
Do you have the rest of his pdfs, by any chance?
>>47457599
jesus. that "female gender = wisdom" is killing me every time. Especially when girls I know start spouting that nonsense and I know as hell they made stupid decisions every so often.
>>47462510
No, I just followed the link in the book another anon posted here to his site and read the blurbs there and I am not spending my 2 funbucks on it.
>>47460631
I'm actually amazed that there was anybody who looked at the cover and DIDN'T immediately spot satire.
Are you all literally fucking retarded?
>>47462583
Meh, its contents are far too reasonable for satire.
>>47462510
>It doesn't change the issue: Try to find me a list of human races and the associated genetic markers. There is no concensus on those topics.
that's the thing about the new scientific racism, the proponents all claim it's about genetics and specific markers, but at the same time they completely ignore them in order to lump people together for the same old prejudices
genetically speaking west and east Africans are as different from each other as they are from whites and Asians and share completely different medical problems, but that's irrelevant and at the end of the day all niggers are the same as far as they're concerned
>>47462510
Well natives take to rabies vaccines a LOT better and one tribe has an immune response that actively suprreses it into non-functionality. In a similar vein of constant exposure to things: caucasians across the board deal with alcohol MUCH better than any other race. asians and natives can even have a serious allergic reaction to alcohol, even alcohol in sterilization solutions. Neither had anywhere near as much exposure as caucasians and therefore don't have the genetic coding to make effective protective measures against it in both cases.
Sidenote: africans and natives are entirely lactose intolerant, again lack of exposure, where as caucasians are all almost universally lactose tolerant due to lack of presence of a gene that allows the bacteria that breaks down lactose to survive. If you're black or native and reading this and you can drink milk you have a white ancestor somewhere in your family tree.
Beyond that caucasians have less durable eyes hence the lighter tones as they evolved to less harsh sunlight and less exposure over all which is why they currently lead in debilitating eye diseases and prescription lenses whereas natives and africans were constantly exposed and are leaders by far in healthy eyes due to darker pigment, several gene's that effect the cones, and two gene's that hinder macular degeneration. Each gene is unique to either race as are those that effect the cones.
Tl;Dr there are crazy and noticeable differences between the races.
Its almost like saying darwin's finches are all one big all inclusive species with very little differences where in reality they have vast and easily noticeable physical and genetic differences and just because they can all breed with each other doesn't change that.
>>47460549
Wait, he believes there should be no government but also believes the government should run major industries and redistribute wealth?
>>47462719
>If you're black or native and reading this and you can drink milk you have a white ancestor somewhere in your family tree.
or you could just be from East Africa and had African ancestors who raised cattle for milk for thousands of years
You're just proving why the whole "but races are real because of genetic markers!" thing is complete bullshit. If you meet someone on the street or have a casual acquaintance with them, you don't know their genetics. All you're doing is making a guess based on their skin colour, a guess that (as you so clearly illustrated) can be wrong more often than right
>>47462752
>posts /pol/ image
>thinks socialism is "government controls everything"
shocking
>>47461898
>>Addressing issues of diversity and inclusion is a Kobayashi Maru scenario.
this is the best I've ever seen it handled
>>47461898
Or even better than not playingdo not play with idiots.
>>47460828
an·ar·chy
ˈanərkē/Submit
noun
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
>>47462661
That's not what I said at all. I said specifically that medically relevant differences don't justify discrimination.
>>47462510
The fact that there isn't uncontested consensus doesn't mean that it's not "real" science, or truth. It's biology, you're always going to have grey areas. This is like saying the respiratory tract has no stem cells because people don't 100% agree about which cells they are
>>47462524
Funny, I feel the same way about guys.
THINKING CEASES THE TRUTH IS LOST.
>>47462174
>read about Cathedral of Misogyny on drivethrurpg
> he basically a joke and a comedic take on internet and gaming culture.
take a look for yourselves
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/183780/The-Cathedral-of-Misogyny
>>47461898
Lovely conclusion that makes the rest serve more as an example. Pretty sure that is the general consensus when that stuff is asked on /tg/ anyways.
>>47463579
>Dictionary entry
Wikipedia is too many words for you?
>>47463813
It doesn't matter how you "feel" we're going by hardcore scientific facts here. Women are factually less capable to make calm, collected, and disconnected decisions then men. Their brains literally have a shit fit when asked the whole "save your mother or your child" scenario and explain why. Men have a moment of high activity then normal activity and can justify their decision within seconds, women took upwards of ten minutes. Theories abound but we sure its linked to the whole boxes vs. string way of thinking between the genders letting men make wholly disconnected decisions while stowing away morality and emotions whereas for women and their string way of think means that everything is connected and they have serious issue compartmentalizing the conflict and the emotions and attempting to do so actually makes their brain misfire in random area's compounding the issue.
This is also theorized to be the reason 100% of women get shellshocked on the field at some point in time during duty while men are currently at 30%.
>>47464083
>100% of women get shellshocked on the field at some point in time during duty while men are currently at 30%.
That sounds exaggerated, and the Veterans Health Administration website says PTSD rates in men and women going through the VA system are the same.
http://www.va.gov/health/NewsFeatures/2013/April/PTSD-Study-Men-Versus-Women.asp
Do you have a source for that?
>>47456972
It's the fruit of your ceaseless labor you should be loving it.
>>47464295
>Do you have a source for that?
He already said he had hardcore scientific facts.
>tfw you accidentally identify a pair of mozzarella sticks as sandwiches
>>47464295
Shellshock isn't PTSD. Its just battlefield induced shock.
I'd honestly not go on a google crusade for 30 different scientific papers but if you're actually curious "Psychological differences between genders." And "Differences in the brain between genders" should pop up. If you don't know which doctors are shills or social conformers rather than unbiased parties you're gonna have to do some research, which is sad as the latter gets less research as its not publicly friendly and that just hampers scientific progress as a whole.
>>47464385
I see it as less something that requires number crunching and more something that can be seen in everyday life. Why aren't women signing up for the military as much as their male counterparts even though the Pentagon has moved to open all combat positions to them? I am sure that you can gain insight on that easily. Saying that Women are just as able to handle war as men on average is plain wrong.
>>47456948
Wrap your trust fund nu-male lips around a refugee nigger's cock, you subhuman trash.
Tumblr is that way --->
>>47463879
DON'T YOU WORRY, YOU'LL BE TOLD EXACTLY WHAT TO DO
>>47462524
Well, to be fair, Wisdom in D&D doesn't usually help characters make better decisions. Most often it's things like senses. Women have better color differentiation, so linking that up to a small wisdom bonus works to help balance things out.
>>47457415
Is this satire?
>>47464555
Women have worse hearing and situational awareness along with dimensional thinking. That sounds like it would hinder DnD wis. their color differentiation only goes for reds as well but hinders greys though they do tend to see hues a few frequencies lighter but men equally see the same colors a few lower and is almost entirely unnoticeable. The only impactful difference would be tetrachromacy in women, an insanely rare genetic condition that we aren't entirely sure is a thing yet as it may just mean they have s fourth cone set but the actual retinal neurons won't be able to actively differentiate and translate a fourth color channel before handshaking with the brain.
>>47464578
yes and no, judging by the authors other works.
Yes, in that it makes fun of this idea of safe spaces in everywhere at every time.
No, in that it has one idea that trying to be diverse and inclusive leads to nothing but frustration and the best course of action is to no longer play role playing games.
>>47464755
I think he meant you should quit playing along with people who insist on safe spaces everywhere as there's no way to make everyone happy as their version of a safe space is going to go against anothers which means no matter you can't win.
Basically the systems set to make you lose so the only way to win is to get out of that system.
>>47464811
that sounds better then what I thought was said.
thanks for clearing that up.
>>47464578
Its a """""""""""""""""normal"""""""""""""""" leftist who is annoyed by the useful idiots in identity politics.
>>47456948
>Dungeons & Diversity
>A Breton, a Bavarian, a Welshman, a Frisian and a Catalanteam up to defeat the Dark Lord
>The Dark Lord is an asian transniggers FtM transsexual homosexual muslim
If that's not diversity, I don't know what is.
>>47457415
SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK
>>47465323
>transnigger
i still cant believe people are using that term.
Like, holy dumb-fuck Satan sucking cock, how dense are these people?
>>47461718
>there are actually christfags who believe this
>>47456948
This one of those hilarious parody satire things?
I love those!
Also, who here keeping tabs on the Austrian election fraud, and how Junker has basically said "Right wing groups are not Democracy. Democracy only counts if it's center or left, and we'll actively prevent right wing groups from getting voted into power, since that's not Democracy"?
>>47457532
That's because you're on /tg/, common sense is not allowed here so you're not used to it.
>>47460549
>He's a self-described left-anarchist/socialist.
You do realise /pol/ has tons of those types, right?
/pol/ is an even split between the libertarians and the natsocs. About the only thing you'll ever get /pol/ to agree on is that privately owned central banks are a blight, and that niggers aren't capable of building civilization in the same way that whites are.
>who's whites?
Well, Europe, and-
>You mean those PIGS cockroaches who couldn't civ their way out of a wet paper bag
Uhh
>Or Implying that slavs are white
Well what about Western Europe?
>UK, Germany, France
>implying their civilization isn't about to collapse under the weight of its own bullshit
Ok fine. Fuck you. Australia.
>You mean China
... Latvia?
>RARE FLAG
... ok, fine. The only thing you can get /pol/ to agree on are that privately owned central banks are a blight.
>>47465840
Because it's true.
Q. Why don't we just accept that getting your feelings hurt is just an unavoidable part of life, and stop making such a big deal of it when it happens?
>>47462796
So define socialism in a way that doesn't require an huge unelected bureaocracy.
Protip: you fucking can't and your feeble attempts at genetic fallacy won't do shit.
>>47468434
>who here keeping tabs on the Austrian election fraud
Only in passing. The nearly 150% voter turnout in one city cracked me up.
>>47468504
Because that makes people uncomfortable and feel lesser. God forbid people learn humility or simple human aspects like the ability to deal with shit.
"Oh, no! He didn't use my Xxttrm pronoun! That hurt my feefee's, which SHOULD be a felony!"
>>47461168
Every time something that is embarassing to the progressives comes out they inevitably descend into cospiracy theories.
No, asshole. This is the world you built; this is the culture you strive for. Either own this or repent.
>>47468434
Its for a better tomorrow your children will thank us.
>>47468536
Smart people know that if you go on making a parody of the democratic system, eventually people will not care about it anymore, and then it'll be 100000k worse for you. Austria chose to give power to litteral neonazis next election cycle. It chose civil war.
It's a sombering tought.
>>47465682
the best I've seen is transfat.
>>47463718
I never said it was not real, it just said it was arbitrary. As in "decided by a judge or arbiter rather than by a law or statute".
You simply cannot make a general text/flowchart that will determine the race of everyone; the scientist has to choose markers on a case by case basis.
>>47468557
Our children, and yours, will hang you all from the lamposts before this shit is over, moron. And we'll be unable to do anything but watch you choke to death on your own severed penis.
>>47468586
>implying we will have Lampposts
>You fucking white shitlords have had electricity for hundreds of years, and parts of Africa don't have any even today. And WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?
>I say it's time to correct this historical oppression. Give our lightposts to the immigrants.
But what if they just strip the lightposts for copper or smelt them, to-
>BANNED
>Smelting is a social construct
>>47461946
Well, he's not obnoxious about his views, and just give you ways to portray discrimination if you wish to do so. The rest is damage control since it's a touchy subject, and it never hurts to repeat the basics.
I wonder why he chose that title and cover, though? Sell it to the SJW GMs? He pretty much says he despise them.
>>47468434
The "it's democracy only if they agree with me" crowd always cracks me up. I suppose laughter is the best medicine.
>>47468644
Last time I went to Africa, they didn't hang people to lamposts, they put a tyre on the guy's neck and put it on fire.
You don't want to be a thief in a ghanaian market.
>>47468644
>Give our lightposts to the immigrants.
The one weakpoint of your post: by then nobody will care about the migrants's supposed ownership of the lamposts; and those migrants that would make a scene about it will, too, hang from the lamposts.
>>47468719
>Last time I went to Africa, they didn't hang people to lamposts, they put a tyre on the guy's neck and put it on fire.
>You don't want to be a thief in a ghanaian market.
You see? We have lots to learn from Africans! This is a creative and appropriatelly cruel method of execution that will probably see abudant use in europe in the time being.
10/10, will take counsel to heart!
>>47468719
I think he's just picking an image that's relevant to the topic.
I like the conclusion, dude's pretty on point.
It's not even trolling*, it's just pointing to the directions where you could probably go in a "classic" campaign if you want to explore themes like that.
Much ado about nothing.
*=aside form what I can only describe as an expansion of the -4 STR meme.
>>47468870
>it may be better for all of us to fight censorship
Judging by the contents of his shop, he certainly did. Guy seems to have a hatred of sjws.
https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/category/shop-2/
>>47468762
But, anon, what about global warming? At least use natural products.
>>47468927
I'm open to alternatives to tires as long as they're acceptably cheap and The effect is the same. Ideas?
>>47457121
Wait, aren't those the same people who love screaming about how sexually liberated they are?
>>47469192
Aren't they the same people that say you're racist if you judge people from what they do instead of from their race?
It's SJW. Coherency to them has allways been like Crosses to vampires.
>>47469192
Some are ridiculously puritanical and sex negative and the rest can still employ their standard mental gymnastics to take offense over anything.
>>47468586
You see? This is why you can't even be trusted to make simple rational decisions.
>>47462218
Blame the boomers. They're having grandkids: nothing should ever hurt their grandkids.
>>47461597
Nothing wrong with wanting tax sponsored public services, anon. You can have that without going full communist or descending into SJW hysteria.
>>47459116
>race is arbitrary and we all look the same
M8 what are abos
You are all fucking stupid
>>47461142
>OD&D
OD&D doesn't give two fucks what sex your character is.
If you aren't addressing issues of race, gender, and sexual preference in your games, then you are failing as a GM.
>>47460800
>major industries to be owned and controlled by the workers directly, through consensus and direct democracy
>how to never make a good decision even once
>>47461529
This desu
Not even French but will take frog over roast beef any day
>>47462524
>>47457556
It should be +1 Cha. Just look at sentencing statistics.
>>47469429
If you are addressing issues of race, gender, and sexual preference in your games, then you are failing as a GM. No one should have to put up with "Should trannies be able to use whatever bathroom they want" as an adventure.
The whole point of fantasy is to not deal with dumb gay boring shit like politics.
>>47457415
Well - hey - it can't be worse than FATAL!
(r-right guys?)
>>47469638
>No one should have to put up with "Should trannies be able to use whatever bathroom they want" as an adventure.
Oh fuck, I'm getting Divinity: Dragon Commander flashbacks.
>>47469665
As someone who as read fatal thoroughly: No, it isn't.
The only thing I know that comes close to fatal in terms of nastiness and awful rules is RaHoWa.
>>47469310
>we all look the same
I wonder where you did read that in my post, since I pointed out that his example of brits and frogs looking the same was bad.
>>47457415
Well it's nice to see someone being reasonable about this shit, but the flipside of that is that everything he says is obvious and uncontroversial.
>genetic differences exist but race is culturally constructed
>gender differences are stark but it's probably best not to try to model them realistically in your game
>people in the past were prejudiced as fuck and it's more interesting to try to understand their mindset than to whitewash it away.
>>47462752
Oh fuck off. We can't be at the point where someone identifying as an anarchist is automatically assumed to subscribe to some capitalist "libertarian" bullshit.
>>47469930
No, we're at the point where somebody idetifying as an anarchist is automatically assumed to be an idiot or a college student.
>>47469905
>everything he says is obvious and uncontroversial.
Which is the sad thing, because he still gets attacked as some kind of far-right white supremacist male chauvinist.
Unfortunately, we exist in a time that obvious and uncontroversial views are considered hate speech by a certain portion of the population.
>>47469948
Well, I don't disagree but that's a different debate
>>47464343
Game design in a safe space age?
I know a fucker who runs a LARP. Super fucking leftist, but his setting includes Slavery, racism, violence, and generally lots of terrible shit and have had really young nerds and weebs bitch at him about that.
His responses to them have been glorious in how measured and intelligent they are in regard to how he is presenting a broken world that perhaps it is up to player decisions to do something about. Between not dying from raiders and zombies and people stabbing each other in the back.
How are there people that don't get that this is anti-sjw just from looking at the cover?
>>47457121
Panty Explosion?
>>47469638
No, the point of fiction and fantasy is to help improve our world through the promotion of social progress. Again, if you aren't addressing the important issues at your table (like trans* people being allowed to use their bathrooms), then you have failed as 1) a storyteller, 2) a GM, and 3) a human being.
>>47457415
The vast majority of that document feels like it's written for the would-be SJWs of the world that don't know how to formulate an opinion, so he's written a neat little pamplet to tell the what to think. Not that much of what he says is wrong (except for a handful of points I generally agree with everything he says). Though I guess if anyone was going to write such a booklet I'm glad it was at least someone pretty level-headed.
However, the one thing he does that I have to disagree with is penalizing the Charisma of men, because women have a "higher social intelligence," so he wants men to roll 1d6+1d10 while women roll 3d6 for Charisma. Shit sort of speaks for it's self there. According to him that superior social intelligence, combined with a greater level of perception through greater night-vision, hearing, and color depth (on average, which is true) should also award women a +1 bonus to their Wisdom Score. I'll be the first to support the notion that men and women have functionally comparable cognitive faculties, but is that very notion that forces me to strongly disagree with the idea of altering the Intellect and Wisdom stats at all, in favor of either gender. Women do have a deeper range of color perception, and better hearing and smell, on average, so you could just give them a +1 to perception rolls, not boost two attributes based on their ability to differentiate the scents of different flowers. He also gives women a +1 to Constitution because, according to him, they don't need as much food/general sustenance (fairly true), but then he gives'm the whole "handles pain better," angle that I see thrown around all the time. I've never seen a speck of evidence beyond "pregnancy is really painful." Which, for those who don't know, when women go into labor their brain releases a metric fuck-tonne of chemicals to dampen multitudes of nerve clusters and regulate various bodily functions.
>>47460321
Exactly my point.
>>47470296
Poe's law.
>>47470296
combo-breaker of 4chan's usual: hate first, ask questions later, approach to things, combined with the wider internet's hate of SJWs in general.
>>47470520
During labor is literally the only time women handle pain better than men.
>>47470571
Did you read the whole thing or stop after I said the word pregnancy?
>>47470583
I stopped at pregnancy.
>>47457235
Some of you anarchists are alright
>>47470296
James "The Slut Shamer of Sussex" Desberough's name is a bigger tell than the image, which looks like it actually could be real. I once met him at a con, people called him "The Triggered Nigger Terror, and gave him a wide berth. The only people he could share a table with were Ben Garrison and Mike Stoklasa, where they played RAHOWA to the blaring tunes of the Horst Wessel Lied.
>>47456948
Not surprising that, after Gamergate, SJWs would turn to tabletop...
>>47470700
>>47459852
It used to be that liberals were the ones fighting racism and sexism. He who fights monsters and all that...
>>47470318
Oh believe me, I'm going to spread so much social progress around they'll think it's raining out of the sky.
>>47470602
props for honesty
>>47470687
>implying that Ben "The Porky Forker" isn´t a hard-line commie
>>47469260
Not that anon but I found it hilarious that this guy believes in his heart of hearts that zero government is the way to go, but he's willing to settle for more government than usual as his next best option.
>>47460702
>>47462752
>>47470520
Yet another issue resolved by 2d6+4
You want to narrow the bell curve while still randomizing starting stats? 2d6+4
You want to tweak racial modifiers to remain within an average instead of setting them over the top? 2d6+X(1-7)
You want to tweak genders slightly to better represent the inherent hereditary differences between men and women without taking either to an extreme?
Male/Female
STR: 2d6+4/2
CON: 2d6+4/5
DEX: 2d6+4/4
INT: 2d6+4/4
WIS: 2d6+4/4
CHA: 2d6+3/4
bada' boom
>>47464083
Please post studies.
>>47470941
What part of "hardcore scientific facts" do you not understand?
>>47471032
Hardcore scientific facts are backed up by studies, preferably with large sample sizes, peer reviewed, and with a large body of unassailable bibliography onto which they stand.
>>47471063
HARD.
CORE.
SCIENCE.
FACTS.You wouldn't understand them, anyway.
>>47471079
I forgot vaginas ate brains.
>>47470912
I never understood this line of thinking that averages should affect the individual. Like, if most woman are weak, why does that give my female fighter who has trained most her life and is an exception, as an individual, penalties to strength?
Caps on stats are a different matter, but an outright reduction is stupid.
>>47468493
[1] Bible - His holy words; Some Jews, Vol. 57, No one actually knows when
>>47457599
The problem is its a game and some attempt at balance needs to be made.
>>47469183
Polyethylene burns almost only to carbon dioxide, and the amount from executions would be pretty small, but you would have to produce the rings solely for this.
>>47471165
>Polyethylene burns almost only to carbon dioxide
But what about our carbon footprint anon. We can't execute them in a way that speeds global warming.
>>47470700
Checked
They prey on whomever they consider weak. What do comics, TG, vidya and movies have in common? Lots of nerds, i.e. easy targets for shaming and bullying. Note how they have nothing to say about blatant sexism such as in rap and hip hop.
>>47471260
Nah, it´s too little money involved in /tg/ stuff to be profitable.
>>47471311
Most aren't concerned with profit. For them it is a social movement. The goal is suppression of badthink and Harrison Bergeron
>>47471165
Tires are volcanised rubber m8, these have sulfur 'n' shiet
>>47471260
checking dubsthis is niec
>>47471115
It's pretty fucking silly, honestly. Like, your male fighter can go toe to toe in melee combat with a literal giant and win, but god forbid my female fighter has similarly high strength.
Oh, I remember this chucklefuck - he's the dimwit that said that rape is a great plot device and should be used in lots more stories, because murder's a crime and we have loads of stories about murder. Then when everyone pointed out how stupid that was, he just went "HURP DURP GUESS I PISSED OFF THE ONLINE MOB"
>>47461168
He gets into lots of Twitter slapfights with SJWs and religious people, so I'd say you win your bet.
>>47457154
>false flagging
It's literally got desborough's name on it, anyone who doesn't think it's /pol/shit is an idiot.
>>47456948
Written by a James "Grim" Desborough, a "gamer-gate" supporting rape apologist, with a long (as in 15+ year) history of harassment of women who disagree with him in any way.
I know one personally who had to change her name as the only way to stop him campaigning against her, because he disagreed with her judgement calls during a game, and she'd broken up with someone he considered a friend - her actual comment on it was "I still have to watch what I do and where I speak in public due to him"
I know multiple people who were targets of harassment campaigns by him, and that was long before gamer gate. He's worse now.
the author is one of the most repugnant people I've ever had the misfortune to meet.
>>47459391
>That about sums up the modern left
>Poverty and racism are imaginary problems, but people that don't say "merry Christmas" and men wearing high heels in the bathroom are threatening human civilization.
Who is ready for the Trumpocalypse?
>>47471765
He also wrote two books for Mongoose; one was about how girl gamers are only worthwhile if they put up with creepy bullshit, and the other was just a "hilarious" D&D sourcebook about sex spells and the Demi-Plane of Boners
>>47471995
I'd be inclined to call bullshit, but then I remembered how one of the people who made an online petition against him got a shit-ton of rape threats from Mongoose fanboys.
>>47464083
>Making a snap decision in seconds in calm and collected.
>Having a think for ten minutes is having a shit fit.
Do you even know how stupid you sound?
>>47471995
Care to share any stories about meeting him in person? Is he totally weird or one of those guys who seems chill and then suddenly shows you his power level?
>>47471995
Citations, I'll have to ask for some.
>>47464336
>every socially progressive person is totally retarded
Good meme Mr Cruz
>>47470520
>Kidney Stones.
>>47472070
I've not heard of rape threats made by him personally. But condoning of that sort of action? certainly.
I cut all ties with him about 2003 and have deliberately avoided not just him but that entire circle of people around him. But I know a fair few who, as mentioned, were harassed constantly for years, and his name still crops up every so often because of the shit he does - like his Mongoose goons.
I didnt hear any of the victims I know say they'd had rape threats, but that was a different circle to the gamergate neanderthals he now supports.
His old modus operandi was constant bombardment of victims with demands, litigation within society rules (ie, appeals etc) online stalking, bombardment with hundreds of emails, and all that sort of shit.
as I say, he's one of the most repulsive people I've ever met.
>>47465682
THAT WOMAN WAS BLACK!!!!!
RESPECT HER LIFE CHOICES!!!!!
>>47471995
It's amazing how much my ability to give the benefit of the doubt has eroded.
To the extent that as soon as someone starts making accusations of harassment, misogyny and rape-apology I have to assume malicious intent on their part. I've just seen too many witch hunts to think otherwise.
So go for it. Hit me with some evidence. I'd be interested to see if there is any.
>>47470318
>the point of fiction and fantasy is to help improve our world through the promotion of social progress
Except that's clearly wrong, as can be shown with even a cursory review of fiction from early history.
>>47469638
>If you are addressing issues of race, gender, and sexual preference in your games, then you are failing as a GM.
Sounds like you just want to play at rolling dice to kill pretend monsters. Good stories include issues of race, sex and sexuality. If you get triggered when these things come up I pity you.
>>47472121
Even on an anonymous Outer Mongolian Throat-singing board like 4chan, I am unwilling to cite either the victims I know, or my own experiences, given I have absolutely no desire for any quotes from myself to come back to the man, and to have his attention turn in my direction. I cut all ties more than a decade ago, and want that to remain the case.
Likewise, I'm not going to give examples from friends, because I wouldn't wish to see his attention turn on my worst enemy.
>>47472099
in person... hard to describe. As a general guy, mostly sort of your average nerdy geek. But then you'd have him have some difference of opinion, and it would rapidly escalate to scary levels. That sort of almost-raging intensity where it would be arguing, not in a physical way, but where there was absolutely no way he'd back down on an idea where he thought anyone was wrong. (and of course, he was never wrong).
To be quite honest, I avoided the guy even then, because he had a reputation as a colossal dick. So at conventions and the likes, my normal action was to just politely say hello, and get away. And accidentally miss any games or events he was involved in, due to other commitments. Wasnt worth the hassle.
>>47470296
From reading it, it's much more measured and objective than anything that sets out to be "anti-SJW" would be.
>>47471136
Couldn't they just make that extra point go to agility, just to keep the gender bonuses physical and slightly more reasonable?
Not that women are generally faster then men, but considering the Waifus and Healsluts /tg/ play, wouldn't that make a bit more sense?
>>47472176
i have a feeling transnigger is just an excuse for white people to say nigger without feeling guilty about it.good fucking luck though if you want to tell black people that.
>>47472233
>Except that's clearly wrong, as can be shown with even a cursory review of fiction from early history.
Absolutely untrue. Most early fiction was Aesopic fairy tales about shit that people were not suppose to do. Lots of horror stories about kids not listening to parents, people not listening to god, and other such stuff specifically to shape society in a way that people thought was "progress".
So yes, that's always been the point of fiction. To help inform people about what they should and should not do, through storytelling.
>>47470808
That makes complete sense though? There's nothing inherently odd about believing the complete absence of something is preferable to that "something" being implemented, but that "something" being implemented properly is preferable to mostly absent and unstructured "something".
Example: Better dead than red, but better healthy, strong and proud red than pathetic and half-dead
>>47472275
>Even on an anonymous Outer Mongolian Throat-singing board like 4chan, I am unwilling to cite either the victims I know, or my own experiences, given I have absolutely no desire for any quotes from myself to come back to the man, and to have his attention turn in my direction. I cut all ties more than a decade ago, and want that to remain the case.
>Likewise, I'm not going to give examples from friends, because I wouldn't wish to see his attention turn on my worst enemy.
So hearsay and nothing substantive. Can't say that was unexpected.
I'm sick to death of rumour-mongering horseshit. If you've being totally honest, consider giving people some reason to believe you. The world is rapidly running out of fucks to give.
>>47472472
>Man renowned for harassment campaigns.
>I dont want to have his attention turn back to me.
>OMG UNSUBSTANTIATED HORSESHIT!
Yes. Fuck off Grim, or whatever apologist shit you are that's busy lapping up whatever bile he's said this week. I'm not going to give examples that could put me, my family, or my friends at danger from that suck fuck again. He was a cunt in the 90's and around 2003, he's a bigger cunt 13 years on, and I have no wish to have him dragged back into the same company that I keep
Do you understand?
Good.
Now go fuck yourself. .
>>47461398
I've met lots of reasonable people that didn't like where the current Feminist movement was going. I've never met someone who called himself an Egalitarian that wasn't a hateful NEET projecting his failings on women. Every. Songle. Time.
>>47472542
Funny how your claims are impossible to prove. And also convenient.
Look, we're all tired of the whole schtick where radfems constantly go "I was raped 15,000 times between the time I woke up and the time I cashed my welfare check, DON'T QUESTION ME SHITLORDS!" If you can't prove it, and you can't even mention it because of fear of harassment, then shut the fuck up. You're either lying or a coward, and in neither case am I concerned for your words. Afraid to speak in public because of this guy? Second amendment exists for a reason.
>>47472542
>Man renowned for harassment campaigns.
>Truefax, honest!
Yeah, nah. Anyone gets accused of something that in this case satisfies the definition of criminal activity and I'll be asking for proof of the claims.
>>47472542
>Fuck off Grim, or whatever apologist shit you are that's busy lapping up whatever bile he's said this week.
I don't even know him (beyond hearing the name). All I know is that over the past couple of years I've seen multiple people I DO know subjected to spurious, unsubstantiated accusations of bigotry and harassment spread by people with malicious intent.
It's innocent until proven guilty for me now, I'm afraid. My stock of good will has run dry.
>>47472611
I believe you and you're definitely not spouting horseshit.
>>47472611
Probably because an egalitarian would be against affirmative action and other legal and institutional discrimination based on sex and race, which makes them an unforgivable rapist bigot to people like you.
>>47472673
jesus, you're a fucking ignorant bog troll arent you?
Also, second amendment? Grim, from BASINGSTOKE?
I'll give you one fucking guess where I life, and the second amendment means precisely fuck all here.
But I suppose when you're too fucking thick to work out that if I knew him 15-odd years ago, my life and priorities may have changed since then? I'll give you one guess what that might entail.
What exactly would I get out of my "convenient claims" other than the fact I happened to note about this being written by the vindictive fucker who made several of my friends' lives hell for years, who has a history of harassing those who he perceives to be against his "cause", whatever twisted pro-rape misogynistic shit it might be nowadays?
If you think I'm a "radfem", well, the fact you even use that phrase rather indicates you're a fucking moron already, but no the idea that someone telling the fact someone is a fucking shitty human being makes them a "radfem" is even more evidence that you were dropped on your head as a child.
You're not even worth my time. But those who aren't brainwashed fucking mongoloids: Be careful of a single word Desborough writes. The man is a fucking cunt. The sad thing is that he might manage to make another few pennies off this latest drivel.
![30a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/86V9Bel.jpg "30a[1].jpg")
>>47472542
Anon, your imput has been taken into account as it is: A post on an anonymous imageboard. Maybe true, maybe not. Unless something backs your claims, it will never be anything else.
Did you expect us to suddently hate/love the man beacause of something an anon said?
>>47456973
>wtf even is this shit
>I can't believe that's real
Neither can I. I just killed myself, hoping it was an hallucination, yet the thread is still here.
>>47469429
Hyerifag, you already have a board to shit up.
>>47473147
>Did you expect us to suddently hate/love the man beacause of something an anon said?
no.
But I hope you'll take a look at his past history, beyond this one book, and make your own mind up about who he is.
I hope you'll see he's sort of shitty person I know he is. But I cant force you to not think he's a wonderful guy who's the last bastion of men's rights, if you're that way inclined, can I?
In fact, I'd rather no-one took my word alone - with or without references that would ID me. Do the research, think for yourself.
>>47461370
strikes me more as a bernie bro than alt right
>>47470868
>common ownership of property
>no government
pick one sempai. how will you get people to give up their property without being coerced?
>>47460849
>But men are only stronger relative to women
No you fucking moron. They are stronger relative to women, but it's not ONLY relative since the difference is measurable independently.
It's not like they can both lift the same amount except when they're competing.
>>47473312
The people who are overly focused on the "character" of someone when discussing their views and opinions are usually the ones who are wrong and trying for the good old ad hominem.
"Well his opinion is suspect because he's a dick" just makes you look like an asshole, focus on countering their argument, not sticking your fingers in your ear because they're a meanie.
You can be a total asshole and also be right, you know.
>>47473513
not them, but the differences in strength between men and women are generally a factor of size. Sure, there are some differences in bone structure that effect super elite lifting, but if a woman has as much muscle as a man she will be generally as strong.
So women who are as strong as men are rarer, because it is difficult for women to build muscle with their lower test levels, but that does not preclude the possibility of women as strong as men.
>>47473465
>Socialism and anarcho-communism are the same thing.
Come on, kouhai, please do some research.
Also note that traditional socialist philosophers put emphasis on the concept of a nation "of the people, by the people and for the people". The base premise being that we own the government, so everything that is part of the government is communal property as well.
Before anyone brings up the USSR, let's note that Stalin's "communism" was a totalitarian state. Or else you're gonna have to acknowledge that both our and North Korea's governments are "republics".
>>47473689
that's well and good as a philosophy but I mean logistically how the fuck are you going to do it. How do you take a real person, give them the power to take people's property away so that it can be given to the people, and then tell them that they are obligated to work "for the people" and not be a dictator? The public choice dilemma is very real and very much unanswered.
This is not even considering whether or not common ownership of property is a good idea, which it's fucking not at all.
Ownership comes in (generally) two forms, the right to have the property and the right to earn cash flow from the property. Most non-anarchic socialists want the second to be illegal but not the first. So you would have a house that was yours, but you couldn't sell it on the market.
Without the cash flow property right you don't have a price mechanism. Without a price mechanism there is no way for supply and demand schedules for capital goods to equilibrate, which is how you get underperforming socialist economies.
I can understand and even agree with the socialist sympathy for anarchism, but actual communal ownership of property is a terrible idea.
>>47473839
>that's well and good as a philosophy but I mean logistically how the fuck are you going to do it. How do you take a real person, give them the power to take people's property away so that it can be given to the people, and then tell them that they are obligated to work "for the people" and not be a dictator?
First flaw of the American refusal to consider governmental renovation: if AI can replace people in the labor sector, and the writing sector, and the art sector... why does everyone assume that they can't replace people in the political sector?
And before anyone bitches about the scary AI, note that an artificial intelligence need not have right to privacy. Therefore it can be open-source, and any data it utilizes can be public domain.
>>47473598
>Yes, but they're only stronger because they're bigger and stronger!
Except women and men in the same weight class still have a big performance gap.
Besides, even though size is definitely a factor, that doesn't really argue against the stat difference, it just reminds us that they should have a size stat difference as well as a strength stat difference.
>>47473914
>weight class
graph is about muscle mass, not weight class. I should have been more clear. Of course women in the same weight class will have less muscle mass.
>>47473901
Desiring to push society in the direction of an unworkable political, economic, and social philosophy on the basis of hypothetical advancements in AI technology sometime in the future is a really stupid idea.
>>47473839
How the fuck are you logically going to create a system where wealthy people can influence law makers in order to help themselves, and have anything resembling democracy?
The problem with your argument is that you're holding the alternative to a higher standard than the current state of things. Things kinda suck now, in case you didn't notice, and saying that the alternatives are problematic kinda glosses over that.
>"first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye"
>>47473931
I know, I'm just trying to figure out what you are actually arguing.
How is one sex having more muscle mass not a clear case of them having a stat bonus? Are you just opposed, on principle, to any system that puts men at a theoretically higher max value?
Like, I understand the information you are giving out, I'm just not sure what you expect us to infer from it.
>>47473941
>Desiring to push society in the direction of an unworkable political, economic, and social philosophy on the basis of hypothetical advancements in AI technology sometime in the future is a really stupid idea.
You're assuming that any of the AI I'm talking about need be even remotely that complex.
Think about it this way: why do we have an IRS? We can automate the entire thing with a complex accounting database that handles all the input we get. We send out your same standardized forms as before, only that shit is put through a server rather than human hands. Citizens have full access to the source code, and their personal data in the database (tied to an account they can access).
inb4 hacking. Could it be hacked? Sure. Someone can theoretically sneak into federal buildings and steal shit too, yet no one freaks out about that and demands we avoid buildings.
>>47474020
> inb4 hacking
> He thinks hacking in the problem
Data input/ manipulation is never the issue. The issue is how we measure and determine the taxation of assets and income. I'm not sure you understand how accounting actually works.
