How do you feel about skimpy outfits in RPGs? Scourge, not an issue, or totally fine?
For me personally as long as there's some motivation behind it and isn't just "BECAUSE" then it works.
Depends on the setting and the tone of the game.
>>47436183
This. Also, it should be something everyone at the table is comfortable with.
In RPG's they're as skimpy as the person describing them makes them. It should not really be a problem unless it thematically makes sense or your GM is jerking off to someone's character
>>47436183
Pretty much this.
Normally, its only a issue to women; manchilds that think this will get then pussy or autists.
Woman because they hate everything that can be seen as more atractive then her own.. Everything above this is something that can not exist in the universe. Its just something that happens with then. They are jealous of art because its more cool.
The rest is just the trash of society and you can safely ignore.
Reminder: Every single form of man hobbie will get criticized by females when it turns ´´mainstream´´, from videogames, hunting, wrestling, etc
>>47436105
They actually lampshade this in the game with Annah if I remember right. Some guy tells her that "some man" probably designed her outfit
>>47436105
I agree with >>47436183
But I also tend to go with your line of thinking: as long as there is a reason behind it, it's fine.
On that note, how do your princesses dress, /tg/?
>>47436105
I feel like they shouldn't be the default, and shouldn't be conspicuously common among women and not men.
I also feel like there's a conscious and large-scale effort to silence anyone who complains about them.
>>47436105
>they are half naked.
>yeah sure whatever
>never bought up again
>other players just imagine them as not half naked
problem solved
>>47436592
Our latest princess is, due to the court wizard doing court wizard things and dice tables doing dice table things, half-slime, and thus wears technically wears nothing.
>>47436105
>How do you feel about skimpy outfits in RPGs? Scourge, not an issue, or totally fine?
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>>47436675
This.
You're deluded if you think anyone at the table so much as even remembers your character description.
Nobody gives a fuck; they'll imagine whatever version of your character they prefer, and you do the same to them.
>>47436736
>half-slime, and thus wears technically wears nothing.
Magical realm detected
>>47436105
Acceptable.
Although if you want to have mundane armour protection, it has to actually cover your body.
>>47436105
>How do you feel about skimpy outfits in RPGs
Absolutely one hundred percent fine to the point that anybody who complains about it is probably insane.
>>47436105
In Planescape everyone dresses outrageous. Anything goes.
In a historical setting, everyone dresses according to that era's habits, unless there's a good reason not to.
In your homebrew fantasy/sci-fi setting, you do whatever the hell you want, so long as the GM is ok with it.
Also, I fucking love skimpy outfits.
>>47436105
I really dislike it. Looks ridiculous in most cases.
>>47436105
I'm a probably a giant deviant pervert but I for one feel that there's too little nudity and skimpyness overall in games and game art. It's a fantasy, let the artists have some fun with it.
What can bother me however is the contrast between men and women.
Also before
>FEMNAZI GENDER TRAITOR
>FAGGOT
Idk give a fuck about feminism and I'm not really into ze cock.
What I'm into however is the whole Conan aesthetics, I simply don't get why that kind of look should be limited to barbarians and the like.
I'd love to see more cultures where self righteous Templars and Paladins love their own bodily perfection and purity so much that they'd show it of wherever possible instead of hiding it behind layer of tempered plate armor.
>>47437892
I am a firm believer in the Martian Dress Code as espoused by Frazetta, Burroughs, Moorcock, Andersen, Tanith Lee, and other pulp sci-fi/fantsy writers.
Jewelry and silk is the way to do it, men and women alike.
>>47436105
I get butthurt about them. BECAUSE I CAME HERE TO PLAY NOT TO FUCKING FAP
>>47437967
You have a skewed view on nudity, not healthy man.
>>47437948
Amen brother
Honestly, I find the little faggots that get buttblasted over shit not being 100% 'realistic' to be far more annoying.
>>47438192
HIDING MY BONER REQUIRES EFFORT
AND I'M TOO LAZY TO DO IT
AAAAAAAAAAUUUUAAAAAAAAUUUUUUAA
>>47436105
these threads are proof that noone here actually plays tabletop.
>>47438649
Just tuck it, dude. God gave boxers waistbands for a reason.
>>47438649
honestly im surprised such a pious christian like you permits the SATANIC GAME at your table
lewd display of fornication, summoning demons, acceptance of witchcraft etc
>>47438734
>just tuck it
So tell me, what's it like having a small penis?
>>47438780
Yeah, I bet you're packing a ten incher over there, pal.
>>47438725
>>47436105
Not an issue
>>47438725
Remove yourself, provocateur
>>47438725
It depends on the setting, but I'm okay with it in the same way I'm okay with shooting two pistols at once or overly flashy kung fu moves. It's just putting style over practicality, and sometimes that's what makes something good.
Honestly, I prefer the justification of 'just because it's cool/sexy' over 'BUT SEE GUYS IT'S ACTUALLY SUPER PRACTICAL'.
>>47436751
I would like to remember the descriptions of other characters, but it's usually rushed in the beginning of the game so that we can play. It's far easier to remember the player's faces than a halfhearted description of a fairly average elf, and despite myself that's usually what I tend to imagine their characters to look like unless it's clearly different.
>>47438725
Explain your logic, happy anime girl poster.
>>47436105
What if I want to play in a Frazzetta world?
>>47440487
I do hate it when people just try to justify things. Why can't people ever just go 'I find it cool,' instead of making some fragmentary argument about reasons behind it? I know a guy who likes to use stupid weapons, and if he'd just say that he does it because he likes it, I would prefer that far more than to trying to explain how a shovel can be both a hammer, axe, shovel, saw, knife, and fucking throwing axe, and it's totally more useful at that than any of the actual tools and weapons its imitating.
I wouldn't be as happy with no explanation with skimpy armor, but I can't really argue with 'because I find it cool' because that's just an opinion. If you try to justify your choice, that leaves an opening for me to seriously argue against your claim.
>>47437122
Hey, isn't that the nymph portrait from Neverwinter Nights?
>>47440578
Depends on how hot it is. Tropical jungle? Bring out the codpieces. Wintery wasteland? Put on a coat.
>>47440829
Honestly, yeah. What more do you need?
>>47440900
Won't you need protection from the sun or bugs or stuff like that, even in the tropics?
>>47440578
To be fair its just as nonsensical to sit there and explain in detail why their character should die because they decide to wear bikini armor. Just assume they already know and don't care.
>>47436105
I honestly don't give a shit.
>>47441056
There's just something that angers me when people try to justify it - like, we all know it's stupid, but they're somehow trying to tell me that the ocean is bright purple. I would be able to live with a purple ocean if they weren't trying to convince me that a purple ocean makes just as much sense as the normal blue one.
>>47437948
>body of 18yo
>face of a 9yo
Why is this allowed
>>47441228
Agreed! Defacing a dfc with those grotesque mammaries is an insult to everyone involved.
>>47441228
Why not anon? SHe might just be a nubile alien princess.
>>47441005
Thick coatings of olive oil.
>>47441336
>disproportionally large head and eyes
i can see that
>>47441005
Not with good enough Save Vs. Disease
Remember, whether it's skin cancer or the flu, Save Vs. Disease is what you roll against.
>>47441622
>paladins get immune to disease after a certain level
So paladins would be really good at crusading in the tropics...
I like it.
I'm a big fan of stylised shit in general. I like skimpy sexy shit, and I like tons of layers where the character looks like a laundry basket, and I like armour that makes no sense. I find all these things aesthetically GOOD and also arousing.
>>47442022
>Tropical explorer paladins
UMBUBU, FETCH ME MY ELEPHANT SWORD
>>47442772
>UMBUBU, FETCH ME MY ELEPHANT SWORD
Here you go.
>>47438760
Wat?
>>47437948
You got the non censored version? That scratchy white is triggering my autism.
>>47440628
I know for sure that its from NWN, but don't remember which character.
>>47436105
Form before function activates levels of autism within me I never before though possible.
>>47441253
>>>/gas/
>>47441228
Because the other way around would be far more terrifying.
>>47443820
Please never come near Apple store.
>>47441253
>>47443836
>>47436592
>how do your princesses dress, /tg/?
However the fuck they want. They're royalty.
>>47437948
I can see clothes of silk, if materials that do not hide the body, nor even one’s decency, can be called clothes … Wretched flocks of maids labour so that the adulteress may be visible through her thin dress, so that her husband has no more acquaintance than any outsider or foreigner with his wife’s body.
>>47442772
>exploring new lands for the God of Traveling
>smiting evil savages and bringing the word of the Goddess to the locals
If I hear a description of a skimpy costume, as a player, I roll my eyes.
If I hear a description of a skimpy costume, as a GM, I ask. Stylized shit is fine most of the time, but as a GM, I HATE fetishbait over everything else. I don't wish to be a tool to give my players boners or wet panties. I GM because I want people to invest in their characters and have a grand old time in this adventure I churn out with my crippling depression, and someone wasting my game for their own boners is not my definition of grand old time.
Thankfully I play with relatively sane people so this isn't a problem.
>>47444097
This is not how royalty works, anon.
![Metallic-Dance-Party-Clubwear-H02053[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kcBBgbm.jpg "Metallic-Dance-Party-Clubwear-H02053[1].jpg")
>>47436105
>How do you feel about skimpy outfits in RPGs?
Many of those skimpy outfits are a lot more modest than what real women wear, so I don't see the problem.
>>47444519
Correction, this is context-relevant. If someone charges to fight in something we're seeing in this thread... *breaks into laughter*
But in context were sex appeal has a place, sure. But in the soil of battleground, it has no place. Well, okay, maybe in the soil, on a dead person, who was stabbed dead in the stomach for showing off some midriff.
>>47444892
>Many of those skimpy outfits are a lot more modest than what real women wear,
to battle?
>>47436574
Lmao at failed bait
>>47445147
>real women
>to battle
come again?
>>47438725
this. that's it.
>>47436105
The only place I *truly* have a problem with it is in videogames.
Look at this. Nevermind the stupid and fuck-ugly design of the female armor; how the fuck does it magically change like that? It highlights the basic issue I have with skimpy armor: it's basically sex for the sake of sex, without rhyme or reason other than... wow, metal tits. It's mong shit.
Anyways, properly justified I don't have a problem with it, but when has it ever been properly justified?
>>47445147
some of these characters don't even wear armor, so yeah, to battle. why not?
>>47436105
Depends on the context.
In general, however, I bend towards more realistic stuff. Regardless of what that is. A belly dancer, as an example should be skimpily dressed. Someone fighting? Get some goddamn armor.
>>47445224
>how the fuck does it magically change like that?
I don't know, how do night elves and gnomes use the same armor in WoW? Does it just magically change size?
If you're too autistic to suspend your disbelief, vidya isn't for you.
>5e Sorcerers with Draconic Resilience get AC13+Dex
>no armor proficiencies
Damn, I just realized I have in-game reason to wear whatever I want.
>>47445248
Motherfucker, when I picked it up on off of the ground, it looked like the picture to the right- nice, well-made, protects the neck, enclosing, snug.
When I put it on my lady Altmer, it grew metal tits (that's not even a sexy concept) and left her neck as a big "stab here" sign.
>How do Night Elves and Gnomes use the same armor
Consider that, in WoW, you buy armor *waaaaaaay* more often than you find it on the ground. Presumably, you purchase a set that fits you from the armorer, rather than the suit magically changing.
>>47445224
>how the fuck does it magically change like that?
one-size-fits-all for armor is already bullshit, you know
>>47445279
>When I put it on my lady Altmer, it grew metal tits
If that shit triggers you so much, go download a fucking mod. We all know Bethesda doesn't so much produce games as it makes toolpacks for amateur programmers.
>Consider that, in WoW, you buy armor *waaaaaaay* more often than you find it on the ground.
Completely missing the point here. Armor and other equipment ignores size and only looks at the arbitrary "class" limitations. Learn to suspend your disbelief.
>>47436105
As long as the skimpy outfit isn't the only defining character trait, it's fine. They're not real anyway. Fucking loathe shit like pic related, but in tabletop it doesn't really affect me, as long as the player doesn't have a wankfest at the table.
>>47445187
They never were the elite of a fighting force, but why not ? You can double up your infantry, and in a medieval setting, they weren't really significantly weaker than man other than for obvious biological reasons.
![castanic-male-plate-16[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HA1iVHI.jpg "castanic-male-plate-16[1].jpg")
>>47445315
Ironically enough the game you're posting is rather gender equal in its whore armor.
>>47445288
True, but munitions plate were made without regard to the wearer's exact specifications, and most 16th and 17th century soldiers wore the cheaper, less well-fitting armor.
Personally? I can only assume that, in a given RPG- tabletop or videogame, whatever, that if you find it in a dungeon or bandit lair, it doesn't fit you perfectly, but if you buy it at a store, it does. That's purely a thought though.
>>47445313
I did get a mod, thanks.
>Learn to suspend your disbelief
There's a difference between suspending your disbelief- I'm fine at that, thank you, I can sit through hours of Next Generation's technobabble and never raise an eyebrow- and "this suit of armor is now incredibly less protective thanks to the fact that my PC has a vagina".
Also, women in realistic armor are sexier. Strictly facts.
>>47445328
historically women only really ever fought in last ditch defence.
fantastically sure why not, women don't have stat differences, just make sure someone gets left behind to farm.
I'm fine with it, even down to straight up Red Sonja bikini armor, but there's a few conditions
First and foremost is it setting appropriate? Some fantasy settings do try to behave semi-realistically beyond their magical elements (Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, etc). If it's a more fantastical setting like Azeroth then it's cool, doesn't really bother me.
Next, please don't ever try to justify it. We know why Red Sonja is in a bikini. Please don't have her or someone else go on some spiel about "OH IT LETS HER MOVE FASTER AND DISTRACT PEOPLE". Conan never has to justify running around in just his loin cloth.
Sexy armor's a long running tradition. It has its place, it's not for every setting, but I hope it never dies off.
It's never come up and it might never come up in my group(s).
But, if I was the GM and someone wanted to quibble about it (unlikely as that prospect is), then my rule would be: It must be internally consistent.
If you want to wear just clothes, it can be as skimpy as you want. If you want to wear heavy, high DR armor then you're either going to have to go down a tier of armor or take the Ceremonial upgrade (which is more expensive and entails a -1 DR, but you get +1 Appearance) to make it somewhat skimpy.
>>47445187
They were never a big part of organized fighting forces, but it's not as though it never happened. There are historical records of women fighting in battle, very occasionally.
>>47445363
>"this suit of armor is now incredibly less protective thanks to the fact that my PC has a vagina".
But you're totally okay with your character being equally as effective as a male with equivalent stats despite being a head shorter and about half his weight?
Where you draw the line for your suspension of disbelief is a matter of personal opinion, I'm just saying your opinion is wrong.
>>47444892
>what real women wear
>your pic
You need to get out of the basement dude. That is not a normal dress.
>>47436105
>How do you feel about skimpy outfits in RPGs?
They are vital to my enjoyment. Anyone who disagrees is a eunuch, a cuck, or an autist.
>>47445446
>That is not a normal dress.
I know. It's clubwear, it's still clothing women wear in public. It's just limited to special occassions where they want to get railed. My point still stands: "sexy" fantasy clothing is often a lot more modest than modern day clothing.
>>47445488
Oh, ok. Nevermind then. I agree with you, even.
You never know what kind of socially retarded individual you might come across here.
>>47445139
>... *breaks into laughter*
>>47445400
Wrong, really. Sarmatians had female soldiers. The USSR had female snipers and tank crews- some of the best snipers of the Western Front were women. Celtic women and other Indo-Europeans in the Bronze Age often buried women along weapons and armor, strongly indicating they fought or pursued training with weapons and armor. Hussites during the 15th century had many women amongst their ranks, and Jan Ziska never lost a battle. And the Japanese Onna Bushi saw action multiple times, even leading armies.
>just make sure someone gets left behind to farm.
Ironically, men are better fitted to the hard labors of plowing fields, though that's less the case with the other parts of farming. Armies that depend on soldiers who also work the land- the classic example being the Greeks of the Illiad and Odyssey- can only fight for parts of the year. This is not the case with a society that has professional soldiers.
>>47445445
>But you're totally okay with your character being equally as effective as a male with equivalent stats despite being a head shorter and about half his weight?
For one, read my post. Second, no, I don't mind. M&B and TES (and countless other RPGs) both have stat differences for women and men and I do not mind this. However, I think you overestimate the physical differences between men and women, especially when the weapons are swords and bows. Fighting with weapons relies not much on strength and much more on technique, agility and dexterity and reaction time, something women even have marginal advantages in.
>I'm just saying your opinion is wrong.
Nice opinion. Jack my wang.
Seriously, guys: the real reason that women did not see as much war than as men is that, in a pre-industrial society with a 60% infant mortality, societies tend to develop strict gender roles to protect and safeguard women, the only people capable of creating more people. It's not because men are simply more strong than women, though this is a factor.
>>47445448
morda kapciu
>>47436105
Totally fine with it as long asit's not anime, you fucking weeboo.
>>47437948
For all we know, Martain silk can be stronger than carbon nanotubes while all those jewels can be forcefields/personal climate control regulators.
>>47437967
Look man I only have a limited amount of time per day. Multitasking is how I get things done.
>>47445359
>massive shoulder boulders
>nothing covering the abdomen
holy fuck this is enraging
>>47445666
Sure Satan, sure.
>>47445651
oh shit sorry i thought this was in the other cheescake bait thread which was talking about strictly western European fantasy, nevermind.
although I didn't know the Onna Bushi ever led armies, that's new to me
>>47438649
>AAAAAAAAAAUUUUAAAAAAAAUUUUUUAA
Did you just sing the first bit of Led Zeppelin's 'Immigrant Song'?
Let people be who they want to be.
Someone can wear a fucking burlap potato sack for all I care
>>47445224
I was going to argue that that's just a mod, but then I realized that the only thing the mod changed was the shoulderpads.
Still, all in all, that's actually not too bad of female armor. It's got a real breastplate, even with breasts in it, it's got armor for the upper legs and shins, and she still has gauntlets.
And even then, the rest of the female armor for Oblivion is a lot less skimpy. It's actually fairly close to the male models in most cases. Iron and Chainmail armors are the only exceptions to this rule.
>>47446071
It's not horrible, but the exposed neck, arms, and thighs bother the fuck out of me.
Also, boob-plate's awful because it directs all the force toward the sternum. Very not good to a fighter- a blow will either knock the wind out of you or just break your ribcage.
>Tabletop adventures are about making characters and letting players interact with the world
>YOU CANT WEAR THIS THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT.
No.
This is also coming from someone who never uses titty plates with exposed midriffs.
One's sensuality/flirtatiousness and how upfront they are with it is very much a part of their character.
Denying someone that is just as immature as denying a woman wearing full plate armour because 'its too dykey'.
If it bothers you so much work it into the game. Maybe the party happens upon a gated village. Three are let in and the scantily clad one is denied entry until she puts on some borrowed robes the guard provides her.
Saying no to a player's outfit choice is a slippery slope and frankly a prejudiced one.
>>47446100
I know, but I'm arguing degrees - I may not like most skimpy female armor, but that iron armor is going to be something I'd allow. If they were literally wearing some more clothing instead of showing so much skin, it'd look ten times better - it'd just look like fairly light plate, sort of like a demiplate.
When it gets to armored bikinis and stuff, that's usually where I draw the line, unless the player can at least provide a decent explanation. I don't want 'they grew up in a desert culture so their breasts are always exposed.' All you have to say is that they worship the goddess of beauty and it's their duty as a paladin to wear that sort of armor, or they're a somewhat slutty bard that relies more on allure than fighting or even singing, or some barbarianess wearing her people's traditional armor, which isn't very protective because an ancient scarcity of metal turned into a part of their cultural identity.
>>47446180
I fully agree.
>>47445147
Yes
>>47445413
>Conan never has to justify running around in just his loin cloth.
Conan actually tended to wear either regular full-body clothes or armor, depending on what was practical at the time.
skimpy a shit. a SHIT.
form-fitting a best
I think it should be the same thing with anything that might be "out of the ordinary", such as playing a rare race, hovering six inches off the ground, or anything else that might draw attention.
People should react to it, unless it's commonplace.
>>47447115
But at what point is something commonplace? Strangely colored skin, tusks, and horns shouldn't be too commonplace, because of half-orcs and tieflings, but what about multiple arms? That's not too weird compared to red skin or fangs.
>>47447262
>But at what point is something commonplace?
I guess it all comes down to whether the GM calls attention to it, which typically decrease over time. I tend to play characters with exotic familiars, but the "Oh, what an amazing peacock you have there!" conversation gets old when it happens with every new NPC you meet, and it's not long before the peacock is simply willfully forgotten by everyone at the table.
I think that might be why GM's get tired of players always wanting to play strange and exotic characters that dress in extraordinary fashions, because they want to have a world where the strange is exciting and interesting and where NPCs can actually react to the players in a logical fashion. It's a little weird when people stop reacting to bizarre characters, even if it's necessary just to speed the game along.
>>47443063
Second
My big thing is that I want variety.
That's my issue; when every single female warrior is wearing plate armor with a boob window, every female wizard is wearing gauzy harem fairy costume, every diplomat in fine lingerie daywear, and every rogue is in a leather BDSM set. That shit makes the designers look retarded.
As long as at least, I don't know, a third of the women are in practical outfits, it makes things seem less stupid.
Unless of course all the men have just as much skin showing. If all the male knights are in chaps over loinclothes, the wizards in vests and thongs, the diplomats in see through lace robes, and the rogues in BDSM gear with bared midriffs and the like; then I just wonder why I'm in an ERP setting, but it's not so fucking stupid.
>>47446980
I'm going by what's in the comics. I know one of the things that originally made him such a badass was he was actually big enough to wear heavy armor but I think the iconic image of Conan and most barbarians now is the leather loincloth type
>>47436105
Please do not die on me thread.
>>47451103
Page 9 bump
Can't let threads about titty monsters die
>>47436105
it's fine
also people are fucked in the head if they find bikini armor unrealistic but have no problems with a guy with a sword taking down a fire breathing dragon the size of a small village
>>47453836
They are the most important threads.
>>47455393
What terrible nipple eating disease did that dairy cow contract?
>>47447843
this guy gets it
>>47443848
Underrated post
>>47445363
Funny, she doesn't look like an extra large brunette.
>>47459204
The plate hides some giant, world-class titties.
