Everything that isn't 75 cents is EDH fodder edition
Gamble's a nice reprint, though if you're trying to build Lands you've got bigger problems than a playset of Gambles. A lot of cool commander 1-ofsthat should be in fucking precons, but I'll admit I'm a little turned on at the thought of a foil Worldly Tutor
Hooray for better Daze art
>>47406797
Old thread here, I'm a faggot and can't OP for shit
>he fell for the Eternal meme
>Someone out there
>An actual mtg fan
>Used up his money
>His non-disposable money
>To go up to the internet
>and preorder Eternal Masters
>But not 1 booster box
>Not even 2 booster boxes
>A whole set of 6 booster boxes
>Which is called a Booster Case
>Of Eternal Drafters
>At $1350
>Without shipping
>or taxes
lul
I'm glad I only registered for a sealed event. I might enter a draft or two if Wizards actually manages to create a good limited environment by I doubt it.
>preordering products blindly
Why would someone do that? Preorders only make sense when there is a limited supply and you desperately want what it has. But with EM, until yesterday the tards preordering didn't even know what they were buying except that an uncommon staple was now mythic, which was a pretty bad sign. I'm not sure if Wizards even gave my LGS concrete numbers on supply until the past week or so (don't normally follow the process).
>>47420648
The thrill of gambling.
>>47420648
It's not stupid as long as you can cancel. Knowing Wizards they'll make sure the set has just enough value to stop people from cancelling their pre-orders.
I'm not a legacy player, but is this another card that will make the preorder guys wanna kill themselves?
>Mods deleting MTG threads left and right
>>47419178
put MTG in the thread title, it's common courtesy
Didn't this get printed in Origins
>>47422440
no that was mine, I deleted my own as this was up first
seeing as this OP is shit though Ill post the new cards
>>47422452
glad to see this art on Balance again but damn that divining top art is shitty and overdesigned
>>47422452
That art is just very... bleh.
>>47422450
It was yeah, i guess we're getting more elves this set.
Joy
>>47422469
>>47422464
but anon, the old top was so simple and kind of cute even, this one is GOLD and SHINY and MAGICAL and NOT FUNCTIONAL
>>47422469
yup
![hookah-two2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TeT2b9A.jpg "hookah-two2[1].jpg")
>>47422452
>"Sure Sensei, I'll believe thats your "Top"."
>"How often do you Divine on it?"
>>47422479
You know i tried one of these once and wasn't impressed. Sure it's got a flavor but if I'm gonna be pumping shit into my lungs I'd rather just get high.
>>47422462
>So how do you like your mythics senpai?
>>47422544
I want to say muh sealed
but I also REALLY want to cast a balance in sealed
I can't read simplified Chinese, is that Vampiric Tutor?
>>47422588
Yes
>>47422603
Mishra's Factory
>>47422608
These digital arts suck major ass tbqh familia
>>47422619
11 Mythics spoiled so far, not half bad either.
>>47422608
Decent uncommon, these are where it's at.
Man, my pre-order is looking better and better
>>47422450
THE GREAT DRAFTING ENVIRONMENT.
Remember to pay 50$ for a draft goy.
>>47422475
>>47422477
I actually prefer this new art
>>47422450
If only this would have been a Rare.
The butthurt would have been so massive, the preorders dropping in the entire world would slowdown the earths rotating by 0.2 seconds a day.
>there's already been about 5 new ema spoiler threads made today
>none of these idiots know how to search a catalog
Why don't mods just sticky one thread during spoiler season?
>>47422722
Maybe if someone chose a decent OP.
>>47419658
A group of six booster boxes will now be referred to as a "folly" of booster boxes.
>>47422740
That criticism is fine and well but we can't just keep making new threads or mods are gonna nuke us out of sheer annoyance
>>47422722
I made one of those and I searched the catalog first but the op image is terrible and there's no EMA in the subject to search for.
>Daze to uncommon for ₪₪₪₪₪₪
>Fow mythic for ₪₪₪₪
>Top to rare for ₪₪₪₪ and modern nu-males tears
Oy vey! De goyim must die!
>>47422722
this is why you put MTG in the thread title and use a relevant image instead of some meme shit
Hooray for Top !
>>47422603
This sorta suck. I wanted Dack back for Conspiracy 2.
>>47422722
To be fair, this shit thread has a non EMA related OP and typing in MTG doesn't find this thread like it does the other magic stuff on /tg/.
Basically: Shitty OPs lead to threads getting spammed and made over and over again, git gud.
>>47422890
>git gud
But im not the OP
>>47422764
To be honest Top is ridiculously powerful to be an uncommon for drafting purposes.
Also muh 2nd hand market. Its enough that collectors are bitching about these reprints but imagine the day when the reserve list is removed.
>>47422931
git gud was a general message to anyone making these threads and making them with meme images like the OP and not making them easier to find in the catalog.
You call people idiots for not using the catalog, when this thread is pretty easy to miss in the catalog.
I've never actually heard of any collector's complaining about reprints. Is some sort of non-existent threat Wizards is worried about.
>>47422973
>Top is ridiculously powerful to be an uncommon
Not in the slightest. Without ways to shuffle, top is an expensive and shitty filtering. Even in Champions, an extremely low-powered set, it wasn't even good.
![R9Z7voX[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JOBPQ7X.jpg "R9Z7voX[1].jpg")
>>47422452
>that fucking art
>>47423002
IMO most people who actually own expensive cards play with them and have no intentions of selling or trading them, so cards losing value doesn't matter much. I'm sure it does affect them a bit but they're probably the minority.
The only people who bitch are people who don't actually play with the cards IE speccers or "collectors" and they can suck a dick since they're the ones that caused this stupid inflation in the first place.
more like CG Masters
did they commission any actual art for this set?
Damn. Dack got reprinted. Should've sold the fucker when I got the chance.
Oh well. I guess since he isn't money any more, I can stick him into Jori En EDH.
>>47423215
>CG is always bad
somebody stop this meme
>>47423249
EM won't make cards cheaper, if anything they'll become more expensive
>>47423255
The only acceptable new art spoiled so far are for chrome mox and enlightened tutor
>>47422619
That'll be good for dealing with oppressive Commanders.
>>47422462
>Banned in EDH
YOU HAD ONE JOB, WIZARDS
>>47423281
Art is subjective, I like most of the new arts. I still think the originals are mostly better but I don't think the new ones are BAD (sensei's top aside)
>>47423255
>WotC isn't trying to jew every last cent out of Magic players
can we pls stop this meme
>>47423281
BBE, Charbelcher, Gamble, Diminishing Returns, Control Magic and Entomb all look great
>>47423307
I'd never claim the opposite
>>47423281
Entomb, Daze and Vampiric are nice
>>47423291
Please see >>47423299
>>47423313
>BBE
>Charbelcher
>Good
The others are inoffensive at least
>>47423329
Oh that's horseshit
at least it will be good against my friend who loves running his kitchen table legend deck, put prophet of kruphix out there so I can just keep bouncing all of his shit back to his hand until he scoops.
>>47423064
i want people to buy legacy cards and play legacy
So all the other new Mox arts by Volkan Baga are tied to a different plane. Mox Jet is Zendikar, Mox Pearl is Ravnica, etc. Which plane do you think Chrome Mox should be from other than MIrrodin since Mox Opal is already from Mirrodin?
>>47422973
Has there EVER been a Limited environment that was bad because there were really good cards in it? All I ever hear is "This set was low powered and fucking boring" and "This set was over the top and amazing to draft"
>>47423483
From what I've heard, Jitte was busted as fuck.
>>47423482
Mox Sapphire is Zendikar, and frankly it's the only one that has any sort of distinct background
>>47423508
I'll give you Jitte, but that was also part of an extremely lackluster set and block.
Their just printing all the shit that Chinaman was counterfeiting last summer.
>>47423569
>their
well fuck me
>>47422462
I called it first
>>47423509
Nope, they were released once a year as a reward for some tournament. Each one was tied to the block for that year. They wwas an article about them on wizards but it 404s (great job wizards)
Mox Pearl (2006) - Ravnica
Mox Jet (2007) - Dominaria
Mox Ruby (2008) - Lorwyn
Mox Emerald (2009) - Naya/Alara
Mox Sapphire (2010) - Zendikar
Mox Opal is Mirrodin obviously.
Mox Diamond I can't remember.
Archetypes for limited:
Red-green aggro, blue-black reanimator, blue-green threshold, green-white enchantments, black-green elves
Elves is the only tribal theme in the set.
Given that, what reprints are more or less likely?
calling goblin lackey by friday
>>47423742
I'm betting on Glimpse given the trend of Modern banned cards.
I also wouldn't be surprised by Heritage Druid (same rarity as original, at uncommon), as it only has one printing, is fairly strong in limited and the lynchpin of a constructed archetype, and is pretty expensive at $10 per.
>>47423612
>Mox Diamond I can't remember.
Rath
>>47423820
Goblin/elves tribal would be the shit.
Here's hoping anon
>>47423891
>The design handoff had lots of tribal strategies, but in the end, only Elves survived. The competitive success of Elves in Eternal formats helped inform our decision to keep them, as well.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/developing-eternal-masters-2016-05-24
No goblin archetype. But Imperial Recruiter would be sweet.
My biggest hope is fucking Cavern of Souls.
>>47423483
I heard some bad things about Triplicate Spirits in M15 I think.
>>47423920
So no Goblin Guide reprint confirmed?
>>47423974
That one they'll probably save for the next Modern Masters. (And yes, the same could indeed be said about Cavern of Souls)
Anyone post this yet? I was hoping for Necromancy but that'll do too I guess.
>edh supplement set
>no doubling season yet.
I find it interesting that no green mythic has been spoiled yet. What do you think it might be? Or have all the mythic slots been spoiled already?
>>47423271
For a card that only sees play in vintage? I doubt it.
>>47423612
Just because they says it is what it is doesn't change the fact that of the original 5, only Mox Sapphire has any kind of distinct background that you can tell where it's supposed to be associated with
>>47423920
>More Caverns
why
>>47424080
Cause it's expensive and I want some.
>>47423995
HOLY SHIT IT'S AN UNCOMMON
>Karakas is 240
>Maze of Ith is 241
>Marsh Flats should be in between the two
Does this mean that Zendikar Fetches won't get a reprint?
>>47424097
Most likely.
If they want to sell a set, the ZEN fetches will be enough for it. No need to jam Forces and Mana Crypts in it as well.
>>47423974
>>47423995
Eh. GG sees play in Sligh?/Burn, so if they have an aggressive red burn archetype, he might see a reprint even without tribal support.
>>47424097
Zendikar Fetches will never be reprinted
>>47423873
scratch that, i didn't actually read the conversation.
desu it looks like Theros
Also Giant Tortoise at common so hooray for to all Arabian Nights fans.
>>47424112
They'll be reprinted, the next time wizards is de-powering standard. After all, you need a reason to buy packs of trash.
>>47424071
Ruby has a Flamekin hands, which is Lorwyn.
>>47423995
>This with Worldgorger in-set
Seems like a bad idea, unless there's a common/uncommon way to go-off with them.
Also this being an uncommon with reanimator being one of the supported archetypes really makes me optimistic about the power level.
Anyway, the archetypes we know are: UB reanimator, UG Treshold, BG Elves, GW Enchantress and RG beatdown (the last two based on the development article, might have been just examples tho). Any ideas what else we get?
>>47424183
>No snapcaster reprint
Fug you Wizards
>>47424242
Its not impossible yet...
>>47424242
Don't give up hope yet, flashback would fit to UR with all the graveyard focus blue already has in this set.
Still, I would rather think we'll have to wait for mm3, as they seem to be focusing more on the cards either banned in modern or not played there anyway when it comes to post-8th reprints.
>>47424242
Have we seen anything Modern legal yet?
>>47424312
Shaman of the Pack.
>>47424312
Charbelcher is modern legal, just not good there. Also Shaman of the pack.
>>47424312
Charbelcher
![gianttortoise[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4oBzMMM.jpg "gianttortoise[1].jpg")
The reprint we were all waiting for.
>>47419178
The only legacy deck I have is DnT, so I'm hoping I don't lose 800 dollars in value on my lands. I'm not very hopeful about that though, wizards seems to love to punish people for not being able to afford duals.
>>47424395
He looks so happy to be included!
>>47424395
>every single card has to be $10 or more
frick off
>>47422485
WHY FUCKING INNISTARD ELF ART
>>47424183
I want this guy to be modern legal, I don't even care whether it'd be good or not
>>47423482
New phyrexia
>>47424443
Playable would be nice. Don't tell me you can't find enough eternal legal commons that are at least somewhat viable in some way, shape or form.
>>47424405
>The only legacy deck I have is DnT
Me too.
>so I'm hoping I don't lose 800 dollars in value on my lands
you can farm all that back in store credit off newbies that buy into D&T with the reprints.
>wizards seems to love to punish people for not being able to afford duals.
the only thing keeping you from buying dual lands is a lack of patience. 'oh i can buy four ports at 80 dollars each over the next two months' is reasonable but 'i could just save up money for two months and buy a volcanic island' is unreasonable? come on now.
>>47424405
You can afford duals
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvseDNbzPtM
>>47424685
>Playing Legacy with duals
You're just asking to get robbed.
>>47424443
>limited print run set with $10 a booster price tag
>giant tortoise as a common
>It's for draft goys! What do you expect every card to be worth $10! Oy vey this is a fine reprint to use as a blocker in a slower blue deck!
I really wish people like you would quit this game so wizards actually had to buck up their ideas instead of you twats gladly eating the scraps they throw us while the rest of us sit in the corner picking around the shit.
Draft chaff has 0 place in a premium product like this.
>>47422619
>A land
>Mythic
Wizards breaks his promise, then why not break the reserved list?
>>47424712
who's gonna rob me, some stinkfat grognard? most people have no idea of the ''''''''''value'''''''''' of those cards and wouldn't know where to offload them without raising community red flags even if they did.
>>47424794
Remember when they said no half cycles of 2 mana lands? That lasted what, 1 block?
>>47424807
>Friend got robbed of someone else's Legacy deck at a GP
>Hes now being constantly hounded for the money
Also, have you heard of the string of thefts at GPs lately?
>>47424112
Doesn't matter. My $85 ancient tomb expedition land will never be bought from eBay and it'll sit, triple layers of protection, in a shoebox in my closet for years. It has 0 value since nobody wants an expedition of a useless card that does more harm than good.
>>47424732
It's a common, you racist piece of shit.
>>47424882
>y-y-you're racist
Nice one goy!
I'm sure there's 0 better blue cards to print at common over giant tortoise, I mean green gets that nimble mongoose faggot who is nowhere near as good as giant tortoise, the eternal all star 2 drop in blue.
>>47424808
Can you get me a source on that?
Remember that sets are made 1-2 years in advance, so that might not apply yet.
>>47424882
This is a $10/pack set advertised as a way to reprint eternal format staples. There are plenty of non-shit cards that could be common. Why isn't it a Delver instead?
>>47424867
It's their fault for spending thousands of dollars on pieces of cardboard that can be swiped away from the table at any instant because you were too busy looking at a judge's ass.
>>47422603
My dick is so hard right now
>>47424922
Yeah, why is one common out of like a hundred not a Delver. Why isn't the only card on the common slot delver.
Also DFCs.
>>47424918
They retracted it the second they went into 2 block structure.
>reprint ally fetches
>cool
>make a cycle of ally duals
>cool
>skip out on making the enemy versions of that cycle
>not cool
>make a set of shitty ally duals
>probably wont get shitty enemy versions of them either
I'm tired of Wizards shitting on enemy colour pairings in the land department.
>>47424933
>People shouldn't own things that are worth money because it's their fault if they get stolen
>>47424956
Wizards have dug themselves into a hole by pushing the idiocy that is limited play in reprint-focused sets. There are easily 100 staples that could be common (Brainstorm, Bolt, Ponder, Preordain, Lotus Petal, Daze, Counterspell, Dark Ritual/Cabal Ritual, etc), but very few of them are the vanilla creatures that Wizards wants the game to be centered around.
>>47424957
Well we finally got the enemy manlands. A shame they really reduced their power level.
>>47425040
There was literally no bigger disappointment in the last 5 years of magic than how shit the enemy manlands turned out to be
I love people who think the Number 1 priority of these reprint supplementals is to lower singles prices on the secondary market. It's almost like you weren't around for Chronicles!
>>47425052
They weren't shit. It's that the allieds are too good so they look shit in comparison
>>47425080
>Being this retarded
How do you even breathe?
>>47425040
>>47425052
Enemy manlands where very mediocre, some of them even feel worse than stuff like treetop village and fairy conclave.
wandering Fumarole is my favourite of that cycle.
>>47425080
>make a cycle of 5 lands where the "worst" one has colourless firebreathing
>decide that because those were good the enemy lands must suffer and be bland and weak
Good and fair design.
Reminder that Wizards intentionally makes bad cards
>>47425126
Isn't Oscar just Timmy?
>>47424918
They meant in the standard environment, not in individual sets.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-mana-2014-06-27
>>47425126
But zurgo helmsmasher was the first good commander for rwb wedge, and can be built in a control shell or a voltron one.
>>47425096
>>47425121
Yeah! Why can't we go back to the old days of Urza block! That was full of good and fair design!
>>47425201
I think the person who drew this doesn't play commander but Zurgo is pretty awful outside of that one format.
>>47425144
No, Timmy enjoys spectacular and crazy shit. 11/11 Indestructables, Door to Nothingness, making a gorillion snaketokens.
Stuff that is spectacular, but unwieldly and just isn't competetive.
Oscar just likes to gargle horsecocks.
>>47425213
>straw manning this hard
It's okay MaRo, we know you're a washed up hack, there's no need to be so deflective about it.
>>47425201
The most common quote of an Oscar: "This'll go great in my EDH deck!"
>>47425201
>Who is Kaalia
The dude drawing the comic is both a shithead and has a point at the same time.
It's fun to see cards that are probably designed for Commander.
It's not fun to see cards that are just 100% garbage. "Playable in EDH" meme aside, a lot of shit is not even playable in Limited, let alone EDH, which actually does have an idea of what makes a card "good" in the format.
>>47425126
I was going to ask if this was from Cardboard Crack but then I realized that this is actually kind of funny
>>47425243
>but unwieldly and just isn't competitive
I would argue that the RG ramp in the current standard is both very competitive and a Timmy's wet dream, dropping Ulamogs and Atarkas.
>>47425148
Well that actually was a pretty interesting read.
>>47425243
Hedonist's Trove is awesome, fuck off.
>>47424958
>People shouldn't spend so much money on something that gets damaged by using it for its primary purpose, which puts it within hands of everyone who "accidentally" bumps the table.
>>47425144
Timmy loves cards that are bad, but epically huge or insane in some way, like getting 2 10/10's or gaining 100 life or making 52 wolf tokens.
Johnny loves cards that are bad and knows they're bad but fuck if winning off of Battle of Wits isn't hilarious!
Oscar thinks Demon's Grasp and Chaplain's Blessing are amazing
>>47425298
That can happen sometimes, but it's not what Timmy cares about.
>>47425273
It's my opinion that EVERY card should have a home SOMEWHERE. Printing cards that are designed to be either a trap option indraft or so bad even scrubs know it's trash is not OK, especially at rare and mythic.
Seriously, fuck Prism Array. I have, like, 16 of the fuckers
>>47424882
Go to fucking Gatherer, search for blue 2 CMC common creatures with a community rating higher than 3.5 and see how many creatures deserve a slot more than Giant Tortoise.
>yes i suggested Gatherer, just for the community ratings
>>47425399
I agree with you there- cards that are unplayable in ANY format have no place in MTG
>Elves
is it finally time? This better be at uncommon.
>>47425429
But look at his smiling face! He's so happy to be included!
All of the greatest, most powerful cards from magic history are there, and he's thrilled just to get to stand beside them. Look at all the draft archetypes! Legacy Elves is standing right there! And Worldgorger! He was a giant in the day... boy, I sure hope I can snag an autograph later...
Giant Tortoise won the golden-ticket of all reprints, and I for one am very happy for him.
I was going to make the point that the enemy colour manlands were cheaper to activate than the allied coloured ones, but that's not even true. Both cycles average the same mana cost to animate, 3.6 cmc. They really are severely underpowered.
>>47425545
Hissing Quagmire is alright.
UR and RW are trash though.
>>47425306
I always find this stuff fascinating.
Even if results tend to be mixed, they do work hard for this sort of thing.
>>47425525
It literally could have been the 0/4 Kraken 1-drop and done its intended job better.
>>47422174
Ah, good old Diminishing Returns. Actually a good card in certain Vintage decks, but it's like fucking 50 cents.
>>47423392
Prophet's banned in EDH too
>>47422462
>four dollar Mythic that's been banned in every format ever for 20 years
T-t-thanks, MaRo.
>>47425691
They DID say from the start that one of their target is cubers
>>47425691
I know everyone wants expensive as cards, but I think its pretty awesome seeing balance again in a printed draft format. Also, there's Karakas for everyone who has been asking for 20 years
>>47424395
OH SICK I GET NEW ART FOR MY CARD THAT HASN'T BEEN PLAYABLE SINCE IT WAS PRINTED IN 1993
>>47425213
Dude, you're fucking retarded in several ways but let me highlight the most important one: BALANCE DOESN'T MATTER FOR THIS SET. This set only exists as a vehicle for reprints and for no other purpose. Fucking nobody is going to draft a set that costs 15 dollars a pack for the joy of drafting. People want to see expensive cards reprinted, that's the only reason anyone gives a shit about this fuckfest at all. If anything, this set should be as unbalanced as possible.
>>47425806
Except it ISN'T. That's not what WotC want it to be and that's not how they're designing it.
>>47425126
I kek'd my tits clean off
>>47425853
Which is why they are shitheads.
>>47425806
>>47425900
Please see >>47425059
>>47425941
You're a faggot if you think that's not the number one purpose of this set, regardless of what happened with Chronicles. Public perception > Reality, that's why Theros was panned as shit because it was supposed to be the enchantment block but had almost no enchantment support or anything
>>47425059
>It's almost like you weren't around for Chronicles!
Chronicles was the best fucking thing in the world and if WotC cared about the players instead of scalper shitters, it would have become a yearly thing (as they originally planned) and we'd be at Chronicles 20 by now.
>>47425978
That's funny because Theros was actually pretty popular and caused a boom in the playerbase.
So like, what is the reason for these sets to be so expensive? Would it hurt them to do something special with the sets and like, include 2 to 3 rares a pack or something with a 10 dollar price tag?
>>47426151
"b-but you get a foil in every pack! That could be anything!!!"
>>47425806
Why the fuck would you buy boosters if not to draft them? Cracking packs is always just burning money.
>>47426178
Oh
I forgot about the foil thing. Pretty sure they'd still save production costs if they shoved two regular rares in a pack rather than a guaranteed foil.
>>47426151
>So like, what is the reason for these sets to be so expensive?
FUCK YOU GIVE US MONEY. That's what. That's literally their whole thought process. And it's going to continue until people wake up and realize that these "Masters" sets are actually bad fucking value.
>>47426208
Foil cards in general were a bad idea and should never have been invented.
>>47426244
What?
>>47426206
I crack a box of each set so I can have enough commons/uncommons to fill out my edh decks and brew with.
Also so I can complain about the shitty rares and mythics.
>>47426228
They are fun to draft. And they would honestly be fine value if stores didn't jack up the prices.
Given how much stores charge for Masters packs, I'm surprised people want more expensive cards. It'll just mean the boosters will be sold for 50 bucks or something.
>>47426206
Buddy of mine just preordered a box for 300 euros for our playgroup to phantom draft with and keep the cards for himself. Feels good man. If he opens anything I like and he doesn't need it, I'll just buy or trade from him.
>>47426291
>They are fun to draft.
But the draft is expensive, and you sometimes don't make your money back. Which leads to less drafts and more product just chilling being held onto until production stops and stores jack up the prices.
I'm not trying to sound like these faggots complaining about Giant tortoise being included but I feel there really should be a stronger incentive as to why the packs should cost this much. Extra rares could be a good reason, it wouldn't fuck up draft too much because everyone will have the shot at drafting multiple strong rares.
I dunno, man. I'm taking a break from magic because I ain't got the funds but 10 bucks for a booster will always strike me as fucking scummy.
>>47426151
Wait. It's $10 PER BOOSTER!?!? Literally what the fuck.
>>47426369
Our stores masters drafts fired pretty consistently. I know a lot of people said they had MM2 packs rot on the shelf because of how low value was in them, but our store ran out pretty quick after production ended.
Ten bucks is a lot of money for one booster, but 35 bucks or so for an evening's entertainment plus maybe some extra value in cards doesn't strike as bad. I've spent more on a dinner or at a bar.
>>47426062
I'm tired of hearing this Chronicles myth. There were 3 cards in the whole of Chronicles that saw any fucking play: Erhnam, City of Brass and Blood Moon. The cards that really needed reprinting (Library of Alexandria, Juzam, Moat, Mana Drain, Workshop, Nether Void, The Abyss, etc) were forever left out.
The only people that complained about Chronicles are the fucking neckbeards that got assblasted about people having ANY access to Arabian, Antiquities, and Legends, because they had been playing for literally TWO years longer.
Enough with this Chronicles bullshit
>>47426369
You might enjoy Shadows over Innistrad. While there is little value, you can have up to three Rares in a booster. I had one Mythic and one Rare in one, for example.
>>47425613
>b-but this isn't even the most expensive bulk common available
In case you haven't noticed, this set is honoring eternal formats and the history of magic, not eternal value and the history of mtgfinance.
>>47426291
>They are fun to draft.
Any fucking set is "fun to draft". "Fun to draft" doesn't remotely excuse the fucking things costing THREE (3) TIMES the amount normal packs cost. Only thing that can excuse the jacked-up prices is high value reprints in every pack, and WotC does everything they can to make that not happen.
Let me remind you that this is a set where opening a ten dollar rare means you got fucked. It means you lost money. That's a set where they put in Diminishing Returns and Control Magic and Worldgorger Dragon and who knows what else as funny pranks on the buyer.
>>47426481
>Honoring eternal formats and the history of magic.
>Giant Tortoise
Tell us the truth. Your parents are cousins, right?
>>47426481
>In case you haven't noticed, this set is honoring eternal formats and the history of magic
More like eternal jew and the history of the kike.
>>47426455
I do like Shadows over Innistrad for that, I played prerelease and while I didn't draft anything crazy I felt like I pulled enough rares in bulk to make it feel worth it. I feel like they tried to ape original Innistrad with Battle for Zendikar too but with lesser results since Expeditions were such a fucking stupid idea.
I feel a set like this should really be hitting it out of the ballpark to make it feel justifiable to spend that 10 bucks on a booster or 40 bucks for a draft.
But I dunno, man. I don't know business. I just know what would make me happy to spend money.
>>47426614
>worth it
pls stop with this meme
>>47426511
Giant tortoise is filling the slot of "bulk common from old sets". You'd be complaining about literally any bulk common because it's a bulk common. Giant tortoise isn't good. It was never intended for all 249 of these cards to be good. It is representative of weird mechanics that used to be common for older sets in magic, and some people will open packs like this and have fond memories of playing 4th edition with wacky cards like giant tortoise and mishras war machine.
>>47426614
I would honestly be okay with having a bunch of good commons and uncommons in each pack. Obviously, you can't get more money out of each pack than you put in, otherwise the prices would go down and in the end, you would still get less. But if you open a booster containing Mongoose, Lightning Bolt, Delver, Disfigure, Brainstorm, Swords to Plowshares and Lotus Petal, the rare doesn't matter too much.
>>47426481
Are you seriously saying that Kraken Hatchling is "eternal value and mtgfinance", you degenerate faggot?
>>47425691
>four dollar
Shit's easy to find for just one
>>47426668
>you can't get more money out of each pack than you put in
>if you open a booster containing Mongoose, Lightning Bolt, Delver, Disfigure, Brainstorm, Swords to Plowshares and Lotus Petal
So you're dropping, what, 20$ just for the commons?
>>47426667
Giant Tortoise only honors The Eternal Jew. It is a card that nobody cares about, with no interesting mechanic and no particular story behind it. Why not something like Capsize?
>>47424395
Holy fuck it's adorable. I want it.
>Magic: The Jewthering
>>47426667
Aaah, the fond memories of days gone by. Why can't I relive the joy of opening Italian Mana Drains or Revised Duals?
>>47426825
Well, I don't even know if I'm dropping any money. If so, I'll probably draft it. What I mean is that not every booster can contain a card that is worth more than the booster because then no one would get a booster or prices would drop so hard that the booster would be more expensive again.
And if there is at least something decent in every booster, you don't feel like tearing the whole thing apart. It's what I feel with most boosters when the rare is bad.
>>47426504
>Any fucking set is "fun to draft"
Not even remotely true. And yeah, buying MTG cards is losing money. Spoiler alert. Buying booster packs for any reason other than drafting is burning money, it is like buying lottery tickets.
If you want cards, buy singles. If you want to play limited, buy boosters.
>>47427038
>but muh investment
I got my preorder for $200. I still feel pretty good about it.
>>47427204
>inb4 2/3 mythics are balance and worldgorger
>>47427231
>Inb4 Force and Crypt
>>47427231
I'm already prepared for that outcome but don't you put that evil on me
>>47427264
Would be pretty sweet.
>>47427264
Crypt is still going to be valuable, but the only existing versions are a weird novel promo and a judge promo. If you think it's staying $170, you're deluded.
>Shaman of the Pack
>A card worth 25 cents that is still in Standard rotation
>Taking a rare slot
Choke on a bag of dicks, Wizards.
>>47427671
its uncommon tho
>>47427671
>rare slot
nigga get your eyes checked
![3ec63fb883[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/meQeRMn.jpg "3ec63fb883[1].jpg")
Regal Force and Baleful Strix confirmed
Couple new ones
>>47427755
God, Strix has such amazing art.
People complaining about mythics having low value forget that mythics AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE EXPENSIVE
You want all the value to be in lower rarities so you can actually open that value when you buy product. If the average price of the rares is above 10 for EMA then you're golden. If the average price of uncommons is 2+ then shit goy, roll around in that pile of cash
>>47427757
>>47427755
Bummer, they bumped it up. I know Planechase and a Commander rarities don't mean anything, but still. That means Shardless is probably also gonna be a rare.
>>47427878
>forget that mythics AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE EXPENSIVE
WotC sure did.
>>47427757
Is this the first multi color card spoiled?
>>47427878
If the average value of the uncommons is 2+ then it won't be once EMA hits
>>47427903
Shaman of the pack
>>47427927
Bloodbraid Elf
>>47427903
Bloodbraid, Deathrite, Shaman of the pack.
Also, especially Regal Force might seem like a shitty reprint to many. Before you say anything, check the prices.
>>47427941
Yeah, I didn't think it was a bulk rare but was surprised to see it in double digits.
>>47427757
>>47427755
>strix on rare
now THAT one pisses me off. Could have easily been uncommon, color restrtrictions even make the muh sealed argument invalid
>>47427888
>That means Shardless is probably also gonna be a rare.
If BBE gets in as an uncommon there is no justifiable reason for Shardless to be rare.
>>47427962
I know "good in commander" is not any argument, but Regal Force is up there among the best in the format and is a green staple. It also seems to be playable in legacy elves, however I personally don't believe the deck needs it.
>>47427964
It's rare because being able to blank any creature based thread without losing card advantage for 2 mana makes for unfun limited environments when at UC
>>47428033
Justifiable is such an elastic concept
>>47428101
it also forces you into two colors
In a normal set ok but this is freakishly powerful cards: the set, Strix isn't that much more powerful than Animate Dead or Bloodbraind Elf in a limited environment
>>47423995
Hah, last time I heard Animate Dead mentioned it was someone expressing doubt that the gatherer text could be legibly fit onto a physical card
I like it
>>47428221
Graveborn had the absurd gatherer wording too. I use that one a lot in EDH because I hate having to look up the rules text for edge cases.
>>47428161
>>47428033
Eh. Cross your fingers. It is a coin toss.
>>47422174
I guess you could say their preorder investment is going to have some... diminishing returns
>They fucked up Werebear's flavour text
>>47428583
It is one of the most hated flavor texts of all time.
It is also one of the most loved flavor texts of all time.
>>47428583
One of the motives is that it doesn't translate well to other languages, which is true, even though I love puns in all languages
I just read a short description of this book, and while it sounds stupid, I understand the title now. Spoiler, because knowing will ruin the comedy of it.It refers to a magic trick, as well as a trick as in getting fooled.After seeing this so many times I finally understand. It's not clever, and it sounds exceptionally dumb, but it's not completely retarded.
>>47428643
Nigger what are you doing
>>47423920
>no fish
>FoW 49
>Giant Turtle 52
So what two cards could be between them, Future Sight and, idk, Force Spike?
>>47428982
*Tortoise
>>47428982
You're probably rightForce Spike at uncommon
>>47424395
I'm just glad to know they're are giant tortoises on Alara.
>>47425327
Wait chaplain's blessing isn't good?
>>47425353
speaking of timmy
>>47428632
Shut up.
>Werbär
>Er dient nebenbei noch als Anwerbär.
>Aditionally he is a recruiter.
>>47430313
>Here, I found ONE case which is fine
Also, those are words from people at wizards, I'm just passing on information
Besides, I said I love puns, so calm down
>>47430033
If I open "timmy rare" I'll be unreal butthurt.
>it will never happen because I'm not wasting my money on this :)
