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What factions do you play, not just own but actually play?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10138678
A cookie for whoever finds the Troll/Cygnar decks!
>>47410229
I like it mostly because the animus says "Gain 2 ARM". The fact that you can actually harass with the thing is great, but that's a really nice animus.
>>47410274
>PP makes Russia stronk
>Russia betrays them and leaks their shit immediately.
Brilliant.
>Kayazy def 13
>gun mages + murder ponies def 14
>nyss def 14
>..
I thought defskew was dead in mk2?
The true winner of Mk3 right here.
>gives armor cracking to the entirety of minions
>gains thread with hunter's mark from Lanyssa
>gains ancillary attack from Targ if needed
>can even gain defensive tech from Wrongeye's Star Crossed (which he can use while submerged)
Damn. Looks like nearly every legion unit lost stats and/or abilities for a minor pc reduction.
>>47410321
>pMakeda
>Get 5 stacks up
>Pop Spiny Growth
>23ARM with a transfer and shits on small infantry
We super solo now.
Well guys, I think my work here had been done. Have fun, be nice to eachother and all the poor newfags that get linked to this thread.
Now we just need to find Trolls and Cygnar
>>47410414
The fact that they're hiding Cygnar makes me worried.
>>47410274
>http://warmachine.ru/bez-rubriki/pdf-vseh-fraktsij/
OH BOY FACTION DECKS
> No Trollbloods
Of course.
>>47410381
Yeah that's what Skorne feels like besides a few models getting nice buffs. Despoiler's aura that poops out a Void Spirit has been buffed to 5" range, the Razor Wurm looks seriously legit, infantry is trash as before, the Cannoneer has 16" range. But yeah, shit feels tame.
I was about to complain that none of them will load, but I just realized the sheer amount of work that slav server must be having to do right now.
>>47410444
>WHERE IS ENGINEER!? I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH VODKA TO DEAL WITH THIS SHIT!
Figures my 2 Factions ......
Cygnar and Trollbloods...
:-/
>>47410421
Its out there, just whoever shared their drop box just didn't have them for whatever reason
>>47410484
I know that feeling
>>47410484
Russians are Red
Cygnar and Trolls are Blue
Boo Hoo fuck you
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvsntp25lz1jmh2/stuff.zip?dl=0
All the leaked stuff so far on a site that actually works, thanks to some other anon.
>>47410542
> Error (429) This account's links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!
temporarily shutdown due to too much traffic lol
>>47410542
aaaaaaaaaaand it's gone!
>>47410435
>>47410484
I've got them, but I didn't make that inital link.
Galleon is +1 STR and is a privateer
>Morrowans are mercs now
>kayazy are mercs now
>idrians are mercs now
That's fucking awesome.
>>47410625
They were Mercs before.
Damn iron flesh kayazi makes me puke
immune to blast damage ...not ok
>>47410356
> thinks numbers greater than 12 is skew
>>47410697
What were they thinking with Khador!? Apperently whining on the pp forums really does pay off.
Arg, missed a few!
>>47410726
Unless you're Skorne :(
>>47410613
It gives us the blues or it gets the hose!
(Fucking please dude, I'm desperate)
>>47410753
I'm doing Trolls now. Fuck swans, though I hate them.
>>47410625
>>Morrowans are mercs now
>>kayazy are mercs now
>>idrians are mercs now
all shit though :^)
>>47410746
The one thing I'm curious about is Trample.
They added that to both the BE and to Xerxis2, and I'm curious if it changed.
If you no longer need a free spot to land, then the BE might actually be good.
>>47410746
Please don't compare models between factions. Design space and stuff. Sincerely, your PP.
Don't know if it's just me, but the deck PDFs on the Russian site load blank. Unsure why that is.
Thor has Drive: reposition 5" and is 4 points
Thor + an Avalancher is going to be legit as fuck, fully boosted +2 to damage and to hit when aiming every turn.
>>47410274
http://captiongenerator.com/90900/Hitler-reacts-to-Mk-III
>>47410817
Guess somebody was faster than you and already downloaded them before you. :^)
https://www.4shared.com/office/EV3Cw3Ctba/FREN-Trollbloods_Stat_Cards_v1.html
PATHFINDER RHYAS
I'm so happy at this minor and not very good change
behemoths bombards got aoe4 and powerfull attack ...damn
>>47410885
That means her assassination vectors won't get all fucked up by minor bullshit in her way. Ain't no walls stopping her now! Pretty big, IMO.
>>47410869
>https://www.4shared.com/office/EV3Cw3Ctba/FREN-Trollbloods_Stat_Cards_v1.html
Thank you!
Anyone have cygnar?
Still no dirty filthy swan loving... :-( ..... pwitty pweese ...
>>47410274
Khadoran servers may be stronk, but they are also slow like Khadoran warjack.
My kingdom for a direct download link.
>>47410869
>https://www.4shared.com/office/EV3Cw3Ctba/FREN-Trollbloods_Stat_Cards_v1.html
wtf is this sign in with facebook/social shit, jesus christ
>>47410869
Thanks bro, you are a true hero
(Even though you don't upload Cygnar... I like blue, okay?)
Archangel still looks wholly lackluster. +1 rat, +4 boxes, loss of strafe and only loses 1.5 mk2 pts.
No reload. Fury 4. Disappointed.
Am I blind or is the Ret version missing the Helios?
>>47411093
I don't think any of the second wave Colossals are around.
I'm getting serious blue balls watching these PDFs try to download.
>>47411099
or the rhulic battleengine
>>47411103
Original link works and is fast: http://www.megafileupload.com/jnKb/cards.zip?pt=n1VMMd6vpHIGWdebc8nwP7RHHij%2FYP5CGQg9g1ViPVM%3D
Wow, Pskarre's feat got BTFO.
I cannot wait to play this guy. Dual Hyperion, Hypnos, Sylys and three Arcanists are just 54pc, leaving plenty of room for other shit.
Alternatively, Hyperion+Helios (which is missing its card) for sheer fuckery.
Future Sight & Deadeye is just amazing.
>>47411137
You da real MVP
Thanks for the fast link!
Thank you so much.
Now Cygnar is the only thing we need.
>play mercs infantryspam
>everything I liked to play got worse
>everything I wanted to play but saw as too weak stayed the same or got worse.
nice.
>>47410869
What the fuck is this bullshit?
Damn, Inviolable Resolve protects against knockdown down. That's pretty good.
>>47411043
Eh, still does D3+1 shots, picked up a 3" move at end of activation, and its animus was improved. I'd say its been bumped up to usable.
What's disappointing is no Hydra cards in the Skorne deck.
I'm so fucking pissed they raped Makeda 1 and 2.
Like what the fuck. They even nerfed the rules on Molik Karn that were a problem with them and THEN REMOVED THE SPELLS ANYWAY.
What's Meg's drive?
>>47411269
Cards.
>>47411311
That you can't download? What's the point of this link? It doesn't work
>>47411300
Usable, sure. Anything is usable in the game. But at 37pts, it still is lacking. On the flipside, the other steaming pile of shit in mk2, the MK, is markedly better and cheaper.
>>47411137
Reuploaded since some people said they had trouble.
https://my.mixtape.moe/fljkjv.rar
>>47410369
and it's 12/19 which is sort of unheard of now
>>47411310
Mediocre.
>>47411336
I can DL them fine.
>>47411161
>>47411218
These look fake as fuck
>Skorne deck
>Hexeris 2
>Black Spot
I swear the extra attacks used to proc on any damaging hit, not just a successful boxing. Am I just too tired to remember this shit clearly?
>>47411399
>Download with social network
Yeah, how about no?
>>47411414
Register on the 4shared then. It's not hard
We only need one more hero to give us Cygnar!
Come on anon, be that hero!
>>47411414
so you're choosing not to download it although you're able to, stop bitching you whiny faggot
Anyone have a back up of the files. Their servers are fucked now.
>>47411458
use the 4shared link
>>47411374
12/19 is really fantastic
>>47411347
Its still amusing that you can fly over, set shit on fire, and then fly away, without having to rely on your opponent to whiff his rolls. It also did gain +1 SPD.
>Bane Warrior Attachment no longer grants tough
instead
> This model can use Void Bringer once per game at
any time during its unit’s activation. This activation, when a model in
this unit boxes a living enemy warrior model with an attack, add one
Grunt to the unit and remove the boxed model from play. The Grunt
must be placed in formation and completely within 3˝ of the attacking
model. The Grunt cannot activate this turn.
Madrak2 is sick. SICK.
>>47411403
It's all real.
Ossyan with Deadeye and Future Sight was confirmed ages ago by PP.
>>47411412
>swear the extra attacks used to proc on any damaging hit, not just a successful boxing.
Nope.
>>47411537
Everything is getting Future Sight in MKIII.
>>47411526
And Mak1. Well I won't be assembling her model anytime soon.
So.. since karchev is greylord model now, and koldun lord gives greylord models battle wizard. does that mean he gains it too?
what's the first icon on the carnivean?
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411591
>>47411593
thanks
>>47411580
Assault.
Vayl1's feat reads as if it was written by a fifth grader.
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411580
Assault.
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411568
Not only him, but Zerkovas also. But it doesn't do shit on warcasters.
>>47411580
Bushwhack
>>47411398
It's 3" reposition + Pathfinder. It's actually good not mediocre. All the drives have been toned down from the heights of Pronto in MK2. I think DD's is just reposition and no pathfinder.
I think she'll be best with a freebooter. Jury Rig + Offroad and just walk up to chain attack-grab and smash a stationary jack.
>>47411649
It feels good on a ranged jack. Shoot and scoot, using terrain.
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411580
Assault
Anyone got the swan's deck yet? T-T
>that Seether
Holy shit for 13 points that is totally insane.
>>47411580
Weapon master
Just thumbing through the Searforge stuff I noticed the Basher at a baffling 9pc, despite being otherwise unchanged. Many lights are more expensive than that!
Retribution looks great. I'm reading circle now.
I'm really tempted to take Crocs for a journeyman league. The problem is battle boxes are £25 each, when Crocs are £90 due to no battle box. It's hard to justify such a price. Does any one have any suggestions to getting around this? Is there a good trading site for the UK?
>>47411580
Stealth
>>47411580
Amphibious
These are definitely not the final versions. Cephalyx casters are missing stealth
>>47411580
Reach
>>47411766
They just got to keep Sac Pawn instead, I thought.
>>47411580
whats the last icon
>>47411649
It's not bad, and compared to most other drives it's pretty useful, but I'm not sure it can compete with flat free focus and potential battlegroup boni that come from just being with a warcaster, nevermind the free points not used on the marshal to spend on other stuff.
>>47411781
Shuriken.
Soulless, to be serious.
>>47411766
Regular Cephalyx got Stealth. Casters kept sac pawn
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411781
Assault
>>47411735
I have one problem with Ret.
All the 'jacks look so viable now, I'm paralyzed over what to buy next for them. I want three of everything. EVERYTHING.
>>47411781
Assault
So are skorne still butthurt? Because they look quite good.
>>47411821
Manticore is straight up busted at D3 attacks, it's going to pound the shit out of everything.
>>47411841
Are you joking?
They pretty much got hit bad across the board, minus a few exceptions.
Is it me or have Ret suddenly become really fucking tanky?
It is incredibly easy to field a bunch of ARM19 reach weaponmasters/assaulting handcannon shooters now. Fucking Sents can be ARM22 with immunity to knockdown for a turn with Vyros1.
>>47411859
Oh, it's cool, I already have three of those. That was basically a requirement for Force Wall.
It should be noted that they're no slouches in melee now, either. With the new focus rules and three Arcanists, you can have three Manticores charging with enough focus to deliver two POW18 attacks off the bat.
>>47411841
Yeah, even trying to keep a positive outlook it tough, A lot of hit with nerfs or reduced, or changed weirdly
The Rhinodon was nerfed...the Rhinodon...
>>47411919
pow17 bruh
Cygnar deck, pretty please?
>>47411859
>random attacks
>busted
Absolutely never
>>47411956
>He thinks /tg/ spoiled these!
Any one has the Protectorate decks? The link provided in OP is slow as fuck.
>>47411580
Assault
>>47411927
It's hilarious, because you could almost believe it was buffed.
+1MAT, better animus...
Then you see the -1 Reach, -1ARM, -1Fury, no Back Strike...
i hate to be a bother, but i looked through the Cryx card deck and didnt see the inflictor's card in there. does anyone know what they have changed on that one outside the 13point price reduction?
>>47411919
I have 2 magnetised original Heavy and 1 Vyre heavy. I don't know if I have the arms to make both manticores.
>>47411973
You average 2 shots a turn, consider that with Ravyn..
>>47412017
Several cards are missing across the board for newer models.
>>47412022
Email PP and say you just got one and parts were missing.
>>47412017
inflictor removed from t he game
At work on phone
Is the Ret Hydra any good? Is it mostly the same, but cheaper?
How many points is our Dragoon? Is he the same?
Destor Thane nerfed?
>>47411797
Ah well I agree with that. I'm not sure any JM really competes for PC. I think not-mercs + empower may be okay but then you consider the WJ points on the caster...
>>47412015
I can understand the Back Strike, reasoning is its in the animus now, but everything else is just... why?
It looks like a lot of the Legion infantry is still boring and mediocre.
I'm not sure what I expected.
>>47412192
That's Back Plates.
Old Rhinodon treated it's Front arc as 360 when making attacks with it's tail, so it could sweep everywhere.
>>47412230
Oh yeah, yeah, that's shit. Shame, love the Rhinodon model, but PP keeps shitting on it.
>>47412220
Not only that, but the infantry that made the cut in mk2 is now worse to boot. I'm not sure I understand the direction.
Circle just looks... boring. I don't see how they're supposed to be the movement shenanigans faction when shifting stones are now completely within 8", the Stalker is still the only source of Sprint and it's now SELF, the Gnarlhorn lost Bounding for fucking Roots of the Earth, none of the casters gained movement spells, and none of the heavies that lacked Pathfinder gained it.
Glad I started buying into Mercs when I did, Circle might be shelved for a long time.
>>47412101
Hydra is now 15 pts, so a good deal cheaper. Fists gained one Pow at 15. Otherwise unchanged.
Issyen gained +1ARM, Shield Guard and Reposition (3"), but lost Rapid Strike. He costs 8PC.
Destor Thane lost Virtuoso, Multi-Fire and Commander but gained Leadership (Destors) Unyielding, Assault, Reposition(3") and Quick Work. He costs 7PC.
Can't look at the decks right now.
How bad did Legion get hit?
>>47412414
Really, really hard. I'm not generally the whiny, wah wah nerf type, but almost every beast is worse. Zuriel and Saeryn in particular got hit so hard I think they're in the stratosphere now. It's pretty shit.
>>47412414
Toss your models in the garbage bad
How about the rest of the Hordes and possibly Cygnar decks?
>>47412452
Swordsmen got kind of cool though!
>>47412452
Dat Ravagore though...
>>47412403
>>47412101
Hydra is still Shit. For 3 more point you can take a Banshee or a Phoenix and Having P+S 20 and 19.
Hydra is the only Ret heavy that has come out mhe.
The real deal now is Sphinx.
On a side note Gman is far stronger than what we expected.
>>47412452
So we just got cheaper stuff encouraging spam?
That doesn't fit the feel of the faction at all.
>>47412466
>>47412482
Some stuff got a bit better for sure.
But the stuff that got nerfed... Top of my head the worst offenders are pThags can't rez huge bases with his feat anymore, Saeryn's Blight Bringer doesn't do flat damage around a beast (it's a blast now), her feat doesn't prevent melee attacks (It's +3 arm and other stuff), Zuriel's animus is DODGE instead of +1 dice against warrior models, his spray is now RoF 1 (although he has Quick Work) and he got -1 PS.
>>47412509
why is the sphinx so good? it doesnt seem great.
>>47412381
jesus people will find any reason to be salty. The dumb gimmicky shit gets mildly nerfed while the actual game winning stuff is fully intact and people still whine.
If you played circle for the sprint gimmick and the extra 1.5" range on shifting stones, please go ahead and leave my faction.
>>47412532
Obviously on top of Carnivean chassis getting -1 SPD and losing Tenacity without any def adjustments.
>>47412547
Hey, Skorne took a -2DEF and a -1Fury hit on their Titans.
Be glad Legion got off with so little.
>>47412414
Flyers all got upgraded to spd 7.
Ground heavies all got downgraded to spd 5.
A lot of animi are now self only.
Infantry generally got better.
I wish I was a fly on the wall of PP HQ, this has to be some terrible shit for them.
>>47412414
Harriers and Stingers look like they got shit on.
Seraph/Neraph Lost a point of str and a point of fury, but picked up abilities. Neraph has beat back and sprint now, seraph has apparition and flare on it's gun but rof is now d3 instead of strafe
The twins now forfeit their feat if they ever hurt each other, so no more shenanigans with that.
Legionnaires picked up a point of arm but lost mage static on their ua.
striders lost cra, archers lost their template ability
Typhon is up to 5 fury, proteus got a complete rework. Zuriel lost a point of strength, swapped gunfighter for quick work, traded its animus for one that gives dodge(losing that animus hurt), gained combined attack. lost one rof on it's spray.
Overall, minor/major nerfs across the board for a minor price decrease on most models.
>>47412403
E Krueger is still an absolute monster. You have free wins on a feat and you're still complaining.
You have the Argus which now solves all your Mat problems just by running at something and again you complain.
I WANT to play circle for the beasts and warlocks. If not for boring infantry I'd be fapping to Morvana's red headed titties right now.
>>47412539
>>47412539
Cheap
Reach PS 17
Durable
Can increase spell ranges if used well
>>47412608
>>47412414
Raek lost reach and parry, gained extended control range
Blightbringer got a pc increase, lost bite, gained 2 arm attacks
Archangel looks playable. Speed 7, rof d3, gets a 3'' move after activation.
All the nephilim are down to 8 str now.
Bolt thrower lost 2 rng, traded its animuis for snipe, picked up quick work
>>47412613
Problem with that is no one but Ossyan has any real offensive spells to exploit it.
I hate what they have done to Kaelyssa. She shifted way more towards support than assassination. I know the gun thing is a universal change and she at least gets to buy a couple of extra shots but I liked playing her as a mid field assassin. She could ignore all your shit and force your caster to stay 15" away or prepare to have all their focus/fury used against them.
>>47412752
>no one has any offensive spells to use with it
You mean besides all those fucking battle mages under Rahn feat who would love the extra range?
Why the fuck do Circle heavies not all have pathfinder? Is PP retarded or something?
>>47412752
Mittens. Giving all of them an extra 3 range to pull and push fuckers sounds great.
>>47411004
I know what you mean. I've been waiting for Khador spoilers, as they're the faction I play. Now cards are apparently available and I can't get the damn things to load. GRRRRRR.
Well, Creator preserve me, but eKreoss is hot garbage now. Lost Aegis, lost Elite Cadre, lost Armor Piercing, lost one Pow, lost a hitbox
Gained +1Str (irrelevant, see above) and Arm, has Tactician (Exemplars).
Did he really need nerfing on that level? Am I just blind to my faction's bullshit OP guy?
>>47412829
For what it's worth you got absurdly buffed.
>>47412752
The fact is this. The gun is not so usefull, but the Sphinx can make the work done and his only problem is the same all our Jack have MAT 6.
So if you make a fast count now that Sphinx is P+S 19 (with Arcanist) you discover that 2x Banshee are 36 point while 3x Sphinx are 39.
Now is too soon to start talking about things as absolute, but having in MKIII an extra heavy Jack can really mean a lot.
>>47412585
>Infantry generally got better.
Wat?
>>47412837
Holy shit, is this true?
>>47412841
Thats great. BUT HOW?
>>47410885
>>47410885
NICE! I got her in a big model trade without requesting her and tried her recently. As I started her assassination run I realized my grave error in assuming a ninja would have pathfinder. Poor rhyas, i hope theres more good stuff in store for her like that that feels like it shoyld have been on hr card in the first place.
>>47412891
All she got was +1 POW and Pathfinder. Rapport got slightly weaker.
>>47412837
Kreoss2 was shit and now he's diarrhea
>>47412854
>>47412854
I would argue the Gun is at least a neat trick in an army with Battle Mages. That gun may just be the difference between dragging an enemy heavy into a meat grinder or just leaving it there to fuck you next turn.
I will concede that in 90% of cases the gun doesnt have much use.
Outside that yeah, cheap jacks are great and the points saved compared to your other reach options can be used to buy more jacks or other strong options.
Why did pLylyth had to lose bushwack, but kept her shitty feat?
>>47412546
>game winning stuff
Like what?
Druids nerfed into the ground, Stalker, Ghetorix, Megalith, and Pureblood may as well be the only heavies in the faction, Gorax is still mandatory auto-include but worse, all the infantry either stayed the same (if it was bad already) or got worse, Morv2's turd-polishing bubble got cut in half so the bad shit will stay bad.
Every list is going to be 2-3 Stalkers, a Gorax, a Wilder, some number of Wild Argus, maybe Megs/Ghetto/Pureblood, Bloodtrackers, and Stones for fury management. Baldur will break the mold and bring a Woldwrath now that he can buff it, but he'll be the only one.
My only silver lining is that Cassius & Wurmwood seem hilarious to play.
>>47412801
The only heavy ones who ever did were the wolds and the stalker. As you might imagine turning into a gigantic wolf like cannibal doesn't necessarily make you agile and fleet in a forest
>>47413080
Sure, but from a design perspective it really limits what Circle is going to use since we tend to fill our own field up with Forests.
>>47413019
>what game winning stuff?
>proceeds to list 90% of the list that won masters and admit it's still fine
Ok
>>47412873
Spells and feat are unchanged, at least. Still, he's trash-tier now. Tactician is nice, I guess, but with all those nerfs I see no sensible way to run him now.
>>47412924
That's what gets me, eKreoss was at best mediocre in my experience. I mostly used him because his tier-list was made to run piles and piles of exemplar variants, which are my favorites, but that already ignored some of PoM's best stuff in favor of some fluffy stuff. I mean, it's entirely possible that I'm just shit at playing him and people were cleaning house left, right and centre with him, but you'd think I'd notice that...
>>47413094
Do the smart thing and move your non pathfinder guys before popping your forests
Or do the competitive thing and not make forests at all. granted they aren't shit against legion now
>>47412801
All your units have Pathfinder, why would all your beasts have it as well?
Amon is finally good.
Fortify is so good on menite jacks, especially the ones with shields. Add in the pathfinger and move boost and he seems super solid.
the synergy change only matters to meme lists.
Its like PP was listening all along
>>47412381
Circle was at the top of the heap in mk2. Some of the top-end stuff got nerfed. Most of it wasn't affected too badly. The game as a whole has been powered down.
While my current thinking is that the cheap heavy jack spam skew is going to be the strongest thing in mk3, and Hordes factions can't do that, outside of that particular skew, I think Circle got *better* compared to the field, as relatively little of our good stuff got nerfed. We lost 2ish inches on stones teleport while the rest of the game lost movement shenanigans, too. Our central piece, the Stalker, basically lost a point of Fury if you plan to Sprint with it, and got (marginally) cheaper. The other piece you'd frequently sprint with -- Ghetorix -- lost the ability to do so, but got retooled to be even stronger than he was.
I mean, eKrueger got *buffed*.
Circle is fine.
>>47413120
Random stuff got nerfed for no reason
like all of skorne
>>47413212
Like the fucking RHINODON
>>47413120
Have you ever played with or against Irusk2? Having tactician on you whole army is great. It's way better than aegis.
>>47413200
And then everyone remembers Kromac can walk up, slap someone down to def 5 and eat them while camping an absurd amount of fury and being higher arm than his own warbeasts.
Yeah I'm pretty ok with how circle is turning out
>>47412997
because legion too stronk. Legion casters had to get nerfed, yo
>>47413094
Because having two out of 4 hordes factions essentially ignore terrain would be a little too fucking much
>>47413310
I agree with you, but I would instead say that having 2 terrain ignoring factions in the whole game would be too many.
Focus vs fury is irrelevant to the problems caused by ignoring terrain
Meanwhile pSeverius just *has* Eye of Menoth. Not a 3-cost spell that needs to be kept up every turn and can be dispelled. Nope.
Just as well, because Sevvy still has a great selection of spells, which Influence is a nice extension of. Blasty caster.
>>47413392
What else is there? This shit is not loading.
Anyone that has access to the decks can you please tell me what Moros does now? I can't open it at work.
Rest in peace Skorne. It was a fun ride.
>>47413392
His feat got hit pretty hard though, on the other end.
>>47413196
Am I memed enough?
Amon ad-Raza +29
- Crusader x8 = 80
max Choir 6
Sunburst x2 = 10
Vassal Mechanic x2 = 2
Vassal of Menoth x2 = 6
Total 75.
>>47413492
Praise Him
>>47413240
Oh yes, and then all of your Tharn can eat bog trog shamblers on turn one for heart tokens.
And they made the Moonhound cheaper, to boost your ranged list, and then made it obsolete when the Wild Argus can make anything DEF 9 to shooting. Circle gunlines are a thing now, between POW 13 bows on Blood Pack and Woldshrimp, anything an Argus can close with is going to die.
And Circle now has gargantuan builds, since the magic monkey is *good* now. Going to get one this week when the FLGS has double reward points for PP stuff ><... I figure he's pretty damn nice with both pMorv and eKromac, and I like both casters already.
>>47413480
pc 11
blades lost grevious, gained paralysis
bond with garryth for acrobatics, does NOT have parry.
has fleet.
other than that, the same as we've had.
>>47413529
I feel the flame of our Lord, brother.
What do the crossed swords logo represent on the card?
parry
>>47413612
parry
>>47413563
Wait so we lost the ability to use him as the Coup de gras but instead have him set up the run for Gman?
For the most part, I am hyped at how Ret shaped up. I will need time to mourn eVyros, cause fuck did he ever get bent over.
Everything in Trolls is awesome. I am hyped
>>47413642
pretty much.
Well Khador be looking pretty good, or at least fun again in the sense that so many options have been opened.
The Shocktroopers are alright, but at least at a decent price now. With the UA their guns FINALLY have a point for once and the damage is better then that of the Demo Core so fuck em. Demos and bombardiers are in "eeeergh????" tier at the moment,
Kayzy look brutal and evil with Iron Flesh, as do the Winter Guard Infantry AS WELL as the Rifle Core. Iron Fangs are also a go ahead.
>>47413827
Rifle corps now have combined ranged attack and can take rockets, which got brutal damage. Joe is the same. Can take them with Vlad 1, who kept signs and portents, to mow down all sorts of shit with boosted attack rolls.
>>47413747
Not sure if bait.
"Far Strike is RNG self, but you'll be getting buffs to RNG in faction to make up for it"
I count two models that got a RNG buff - the War Wagon and the Storm Troll. WTF soles.
>>47413887
Pyre Troll.
>>47413885
Not bait, most stuff is pretty good to awesome. The only stuff that is bad is stuff you were never going to play. Seriously, who gives a fuck about Scouts and Bushwhackers?
>>47413827
they didn't make any real changes to demo corps and bombardiers besides lowering DEF and CMD, and taking away demo corps special attacks. that's pretty WTF.
>>47413989
>The only stuff that is bad is stuff you were never going to play.
this was their chance to fix all the stuff all the factions were never going to play
they increased the p+s of demo corp and lowered the points of both. think its fine
>>47414036
And some stuff got buffed, some didn't. Trolls went from meh to solid in most cases. The few outliers were things no one gave a fuck about they're still just average at worst. Nothing is unplayable garbage at first glance
>>47414036
This.
And now bad stuff stayed bad. Good stuff went meh. Meh stuff stayed meh. eMadrak went so OP it's not even funny.
Anyone come across the cygnar cards?
Are Kossite Woodsmen good yet?
>>47414042
They also removed their special attacks.
>>47414227
yeah it can't be helped. At least they increased the p+s (unlike warders) and we still have battle lust and fury around for extra dmg
>>47413991
Maybe they're planning on making a demo corps UA that'll give them back? Who knows.
>>47413612
Assault
>>47414270
But why would you take them over Shocktroopers which are significantly more survivable and useful as scenario pieces?
>gastonne changed his weapon's name from Gypsy's kiss to soul reaver
So, looking over the Skorne PDF, I've got a pXerxis list largely unassembled that went back-burner until Mk3 came out.
So, X1 keeps Def. Ward, and has Tactical Supremacy.
TS seems to be build for artillery, and with a RNG 18 gun on the catapult, you can run it turn one, TS it forward, shoot turn two, and fall back as needed to keep it safe while it's forcing the other guy to play his infantry honest.
Sentry is 15 points, and kept its ARM 21. With Def Ward and standing in front of an Agonizer it's ARM 25. If you whip it and use it's animus, anything important that tries to hit it takes a PS 18 shot back. Seems pretty good, especially with the price drop.
Vorkesh is actually playable now. I mention that because I bought the model, *then* noticed he had Spell Ward instead of Sacred Ward. Now that he has Sacred Ward, he actually seems to be useful.
Looks like pXerxis has a pretty decent combined arms build. Looking at running two Sentries (so after the front one dies, you drop DW on the rear one and make the other guy chew through another one) in the front and then... well, I'll figure something.Really, I just love the Sentry's model and am hyped he seems good this edition.
>>47414343
Old one was racist.
>>47414365
Can't TS off a run anymore.
>>47414199
Gained +1 DEF and ARM, traded Concealment and Reform for Prowl and Advance Deployment, and went down in cost.
>>47414314
I agree that the ST are better at only 2.5 more with UA. We shall have to see.
>>47414199
gain +1 DEF and ARM. Lost Reform and swapped Camouflage for Prowl. Gained AD and kept the option for Ambush.
does that make them "good?" Eh...losing reform sucks, now it seems like they just want to park in forests
i'm going to look over the skorne cards when the thing finally fucking loads. but peoples reactions aren't filling me with confidence.
at the very least we'll be doing what other factions do and playing the same few warlocks because Rasheezy and Xekaar and our other top tier locks are the only ones that will make the garbage playable with huge debuffs :c
>>47414199
They're cheap as fuck and about as useful. Objective grabbing from ambush is all they can do.
>>47414199
Well, getting backstrikes with their garbage attack stats should be easier to do in mk3, I guess?
So what was the change to Grim Salvation on eMadrak?
>>47414474
Where you getting skorne stuff from?
>>47414543
can choose another model to be hit instead (instead of remove), any attacks
>>47414641
Still 1"?
>>47414616
no one tell him
Hmm, in a way, winterguard grapeshot got buffed and nerfed. It's only once a game, but it retains the pow 12, but it's only sp6, but it's gunfighter, too. Oh, it also kills combined ranged attack for the turn, they have to make spray attacks with the blunderbuss. Not quite sure what to make of it.
....RHYAS IS ACTUALLY WORSE.
INFANTRY IS THE SAME.
YOU HAD A CHANCE PP. YOU HAD A CHANCE AND YOU BLEW IT.
Legitimately went from happy about MKIII straight to drinking the sorrow away.
My only consolation is that Rhyas feat now does something decent with the backstrike buff.... But not without giving the same stupid backstrike bonus to the opponents army.
Fuck everything.
