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Krueger2 info anybody?
>>47403496
Robots are only as durable as the designer makes them, which will likely going to be the minimum strength to not break under its own weight.
Just saying, robots probably would be less durable than humans.
Need someone with Protectorate stuff =(
Sweet Jesus the thread returns...
Throw us a MacBone for MACBAIN plz
Hi again :) Trying again. Thexus and Drudges maybe and some pirates (Bart loves breasts too).
Anything Retribution if anyone has them
Ok so what can't be spoiled atm? I remember someone saying the Ret deck just isn't available?
>>47403592
there's more than one spoilerbro, but polebro can't post protectorate, khador, and skorne cards because of identifiers if I'm remembering correctly
Tiberion and Legends of Halaak - any info on how they changed?
also i'd love to know about Marketh's changes because spell slave certainly got fucking gimped
>>47403681
Marketh didn't change, casters did.
Everything we've seen about casters have been about them getting nukes for Marketh to spam. Especially the Fury 5 and 6 locks.
>>47403731
I can see myself taking him with Rasheth, assuming Breath stays the same. I don't think he'll really be worth it with any other caster.
Rhyas1, lylyth1 &3 kindly please :)
>>47403569
I second this. Anything Cephalyx or Pirates will make me a happy man.
>>47403763
BB caster has Dead Weight and Mortality, both great spells for him to cast
eMorg picked up Flesh Hooks, which prevents running, charging, and slams.
pMakeda has her new nuke that puts beasts at -2THR, which syngernizes with the various abilities to add Fury to a beast now.
goreshade 3 pls
>>47403856
He got spoiled like 2 threads ago
>>47403821
So Xekaar and eMorghoul look promising for him too.
Not buying the Mak1 thing though. If you bring Marketh with her he won't have a spell to cast against 7 factions.
>>47403891
She has upkeeps for him to manage as well, and it's still an AOE three nuke that does damage.
>>47403856
Syphon bolt is cost 3 pow 13, is the main change.
>>47403856
Spoonfeed.exe
>>47403902
That's not too stellar. If he could cycle those upkeeps sure. But just for maybe saving 1-2 fury on some turns he might be a bit too expensive.
Doesn't matter though. If the spoilers are to be believed, Mak1 will not see much table time.
>>47403924
I think fucking with enemy THR is going to be a much bigger deal than people realize, honestly.
Behave yourself Rafal.
>>47403942
But will that be worth it? Her feat and spell list got way worse and weren't incredible to begin with.
Please, give us Hammerfall UA spoiler.
Requesting more circle. What's up with my Tharn? All versions of them if possible
Yes please.
>>47403813
Thirding this. A pirate i was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the seas!
Just for info, but the new cards spoiled comes from Waroom beta test ?
Just because I want to know how many chance there are that they are 100% what we will find in the final product.
>>47403821
What's the stats on flesh hooks and exact wording? it sounds good but i cant find a mk2 equivalent anywhere
>>47404033
Don't know, it's a new spell.
The lack of Elves spoiler is disturbing.
can you pls tell me something about colossal kraken?
where are legion warlocks? PLS Give us something about them
>>47403821
Mortality is going to be the reason you bring Marketh along with Xekaar. Helps kill infantry? Check. Works as a +2MAT and +2STR bonus to any models attacking a given target? Check. Marketh is better at casting it than Xekaar? Check.
Like god damn.
>>47404090
Sure, but Deadweight is spell that can be amazing in the right situation.
Picking off some random model and forcing their Colossal to sac movement or action, for example, can be game winning.
It seems the faction decks were leaked. Does anyone has a link to them ?
Really hoping for a terminus spoiler. Anybody got the goods?
>>47404117
God damn, Xekaar is just so GOOD. My dick can't handle this shit. I might proxy him tomorrow if anyone at my LGS is up for a game and assume 7 warbeast points.
>>47404123
Well the only things I find are reddit links of facebook reposts of what was already posted here.
>>47404123
No, go away Dave.
>>47404140
He's great, but I do think he's a little boring.
He does a lot for his army, but it's all pretty basic. I mean, BB caster, but he just feels very auto-run, without a lot of depth to his tactics.
>>47404140
>>47404171
I swear for a while there every Skorner posting about him said he was hot garbage.
>>47404171
Pursuit feels like the point at which Xekaar gets difficult to use. Knowing what to hit to mess with your opponent's activations, knowing what beast to move and where to move it, and knowing that you need to keep the options open before you even pass turn. Sure you could just spam Mortality and go mental with Nihilators and Swordsmen, and it's likely very effective, but I do think there's room for nuanced play. And I mean come on, don't act like Skorne warlocks in Mk2 are complex.
My kingdom for a Krueger2 image.
>>47404187
The problem is that the initial impression he gives you, Reach, WM, Witchmark, makes him seem like a front line warlock.
And he's absolute fucking ass at that, likely to get himself killed.
Like, half his profile makes him look like he's supposed to be up front when he's not meant to be anywhere close.
>>47404192
They're not, but the hope is that they grow out of that in Mk3.
>>47404211
yeah fucking everyone was fixated on "MAT 6, no chain strike! terrible stats! literally worst thing to happen since pearl harbour and 9/11!"
then people actually read his spell list
>>47403496
Why the fuck does Circle get eight wound infantry? Apparently Skinwalkers are as tanky as Man-O-Wars, and tankier than Trolls.
>>47404248
Skinwalkers are half way to warbeasts themselves, which is likely why they've got the 8 boxes.
I mean, the difference between Skinwalkers and warpwolves is pretty thin.
This might be a long shot, but was Cryx's Stalker ever leaked? I've always loved that little guy, it'd be nice if I had a reason to put him on the table more often.
>>47404187
I still think he's pretty shit. Any warlock where half is card is just trap abilities isn't gonna be rolling with "the greats."
His spell list is phenomenal, but he's only fury 6 so you're gonna be left on 1 transfer of you upkeep and cast anything, and he's 15/14 and max 10" away from something threatening.
Marketh will def help, but between him, one or two agonizers, a krea, and handlers your looking at 30+ points of strictly support,and no real workers yet.
>>47404263
Was confirmed on the forums that it got AD. I've not seen anything else.
Rhyas 1, I'll fucking beg dammit
>>47404283
i think you're the only legion player in existence who actually plays rhyas1
>>47404283
I've seen +1 Pow, and Rapport swapping free transfer for long leash but nothing else.
>>47404151
Heh, sorry but that guy ain't me. I just lurk and read shit, like I have on /tg/ for fucking ages (usually RPG threads, rather then warmahordes though).
I'll admit I'm curious where these card scans came from, but that's more about the veracity of the material then actually wanting a link (which I haven't asked for, here or elsewhere).
>>47404283
Still shit, sorry.
Hello friends, teasing Cryx anon here. I have acquired all the cards recently, feel free to ask me anything.
>>47404326
Could you fuck off?
>>47404326
Rhyas1
Dawnguard Destors, please ! :)
>>47404338
I could.
>>47404326
How's shade 2 looking?
could you give us some info on Swamp Gobber River Raiders ?
>>47404326
Brigand artwork is cool. Thanks for the share.
How about the new Ret, House Lys healer?
>>47404344
I meant now. Could you fuck off and stop posting now.
>>47404326
Legends of Halaak, are they any different?
>>47404326
How you acquired all the cards Teasing-Anon ?
You sold your soul for becoming an Iron lich ?
>>47404342
I think this one is better left as a secret.
>>47404343
I don't like knife-ears.
>>47404345
He's great, he lost his elite cadre for tactician (bane), but he also gained abyssal gate and mirage for some great threat range shenanigans and arcane consumption got buffed to D3.
>>47404350
Thank you, I thought it was really cool too.
>>47404365
They lost all their granted abilities and gained them as passives.
>>47404326
I would like to see Dawnguard Destors and Mage Hunter Infiltratos. Hope they see more table in mk3. Thanks !
>>47404326
Any Skorne 'lock. Except of course Mordikaar and Xekaar.
Cassius/Wurmwood pls.
>>47404326
Corruptor? Harrower? Helldiver? Stalker?
>>47404326
Tharn Ravagers
>>47404371
WTF is Abyssal gate and what did he lose to get these? Thanks bro
I knew I shouldn't have taken out the OP thing about begging the cryx cropping poster for spoilers.
HE WON"T POST THEM. STOP BEGGING HIM
>>47404326
Krueger2 please. Plz based anon
>>47404371
What's eMorg's spell list, and if he has the rumoured flesh hooks spell what is its RNG, POW, cost and wording? apparantly its fucking awesome
khador pleaseeeeeeee
>>47404326
Why are you such a cum gargling fag?
>>47404401
might get based polebro to post some more at least
Still waiting on that Sepulchre
>>47404430
Ooh yeah. That'll be interesting
>>47404399
Cost 3 RNG8 POW12, do damage and you get to place the enemy model 3", doesn't work on warcasters and warlocks. He lost phantom hunter and sudden death.
>>47404404
Sorry, flesh hooks is terrible.
Cost 2 RNG10 POW12, damaged model can't charge, slam or trample.
>>47404403
He's even better.
>>47404411
I play Cryx.
>>47404326
Warmongers please?
>>47404464
>Sorry, flesh hooks is terrible.
>Cost 2 RNG10 POW12, damaged model can't charge, slam or trample.
That's not terrible. It's cheap enough to be spammed and has some utility.
>>47404464
Cankerworm? How badly did my favorite Bonejack get hit?
>>47404478
You do realize that Morghoul is a fragile fury 5 warlock, right? Course you could take Marketh to use that gimmicky paralysis but eh.
>>47404478
Any nuke on a fury 5 low arm warlock is suspect I'd say haha
>>47404542
lol hahaha
Does anyone know if Haley 1 kept Temporal Barrier?
>>47404564
She does have a spell called Temporal Barrier.
>>47404581
Is it still a cancerous fun killer though?
>>47404591
Well she's a Cygnar warcaster, so.
>>47404581
What does it do?
>>47404591
>>47404601
-2 DEF and SPD
>>47403999
IIRC like no changes. Still had guns ablazing and double time. Had ranked attacks. I can't recall the PC.
I remeber my impression was "Oh man I hope the UA does what everyone wanted buff wise for highshie....oh..its the same...huh".
Don't have access to cards but I recall a good bit of the merc deck from what I saw of it.
As I said in another thread though. Mercs got _very_ few tangible changes aside from PC balancing. Pirates barely changed.
Total pirate changes from what I recall
Shae's Coup De Maine is +2 movement no charging restriction but privateer only. Still free charges.
Black Penny on Rifleman
Sea Dog Crew are like 8/13 PC wise?
and that's it. Commodore didn't change from what I saw. And all the solos work the same from what I saw.
Didn't do a super in depth comparison though. I've been planning to not go too crazy until final cards are out.
Wurmwood is now the warlock with 7 fury, Cassius is a solo attachment that wurmwood can channel through, wurmwood can have up to three souls that turn into fury at control phase. Spells are pretty much the same.
Wurmwood can be teleported via stones or Cassius but that's it
>>47404616
Are Freebooters, Mariners and Buccaneers privateer jacks?
Can anyone say what the new Ret solo does, the Lys Healer shown at the EU Championships
Any info on merc pirates. Plz tell me about Shey.
>>47404326
How many jp does hark have?
What does the victor do now?
I have had a dream of fielding a three colossal list for years. I need to know if it's still possible.
Swamp Gobber River Raiders ! Need more info
How about them Thorn Gunmages mm?
>>47404682
Shae is picked up flashing blade think he lost phantasm but got blur.
With blur and groundwork he's almost immune to Kara sloan
>>47404697
Harkevich has 28 points, Victor got a point of STR, same ammo types (flare strips stealth).
Little dwarf jacks kept powerful attack! (One focus to boost all attack and damage rolls) with power up is insanith
Any peaks at the big OK fatty terminus
>>47404326
You already said you don't like knife-ears, but I would greatly appreciate if you answered these two questions :)
Do Dawngaurd Destors gained something that makes them viable ?
Mage Hunter Infiltrators kept Mage Killer ? Or has it changed ?
Thanks !
>>47404760
And Durgen gives them continuous fire on their guns. Even more insanity. I love it
>>47404745
Secondary guns still do the same I take it?
No changes to the highshields UA... ugh.
Let take the unit that nobody ever played because they suck, and don't buff them significantly at all.
It's like they forgot to play test them entirely.
>>47404745
Also does it have that blast 10 rule?
>>47404773
No and no.
Other spoiler bro, Nomad points cost? I'm pretty sure it was 11 but I don't remember, don't have cards on me :P it is PS 18 2" Melee RNG now though!
>>47404662
IIRC, Yeah. Least I glanced Mariner to check for Privateer saw it and didn't bother checking the other two.
Galleons the one I regret not checking for privateer tag.
>>47404708
Shae got flashing blade. Kept Phantasm. Veil of Mists 2 cost (though I realized that looking at Coven's spelllist not Shaes)
I think Flashing Blades a nerf for him but eh.
Anyway, Coup De Main is his only privateer only spell. He can God Speed anything. He'll be fine with generalists just not quite as crazy as well all expected.
>>47404791
I think high shields may be better due to the fact that merc casters seem to be allowed to have armor buffs now. I previously used them with Cyphon because an armor 21 CRA unit was actually kinda sweet with AD. If the price is right they could see some niche play.
>>47404791
>>47404896
They did get CMA. Which honestly I'm wondering if we are all underestimating.
Not to mention the Shield Wall change (lasts until next activation apparently).
Getting back to CMA though. They can extract themselves if something runs at them. That's kinda huge. Not to mention they can charge and do CMAs now (more for accuracy) and that's kinda neat. Or advance under shield wall and do a mixed activation where a couple wind up in melee and CMA. While the rest of the unit CRA things.
They didn't really gain PC for it either. So now they are this weird toolbox unit with slow speed and good output in range and melee.
Maybe it just needs some serious playtime to get acclimated to?
>>47404948
They're a legit target for strength of granite. CMA +4 STR could actually be a surprising counter attack to a jack
>>47405236
Wait I'm retarded granite is still battlegroup only
Yeah maybe primed. Dunno
Looks like no one has posted Ret yet? I have access to all the cards, if no one has posted them by tonight I will share them with you guys.
>>47405236
"in this model's Battlegroup"
Unfortunately.
>>47405273
May as well drop them now, I doubt anyone else has them/will post them
>>47404464
Define "better" did he keep stormwall?
>>47405273
Fuck yeah.
I'd love to see how our warjacks have changed.
Do these card packs have new stuff in the mkiii prime, or are they purely erratas on existing models?
>>47405300
Need tow a it to get off work. I can't really dedicate time to it right now.
If there is something specific you want let me know and I will try and get to it
>>47405273
please do. I really want to know how the warjacks are now. Even if you don't want to post everything now, just those would be awesome.
>>47405317
Mostly curious to see the jacks/casters, don't want to inconvenience you too much, so what ever you drop is good, thanks mang.
>>47405309
Very little so far but honestly ret jacks are fucking legit now since they were so focus dependent. Now that they have power up, FA:3 arcanists and Helios they are pretty fucking powerful.
I imagine Phoenix blades might go up to Pow 18 though
>>47405309
New stuff will be in Prime/Primal and not in the card packs. Only guys who got the translations will have those. Guys like me with just the card pack won't have anything on the new models.
>>47405317
I'd like to see Narn, Stormfall, and Issyria if you got em.
Prime Conflux spoilers, or CoC spoilers in general. I'm mostly wondering if anyone got any new spells or if PP was being literal when they said they didn't change. Hoping Mega Mom's Feat affects her Servitors now, yannow.
Lol at this point there's no such thing as 'just the deck' anything you have will be more than 90% of us could hope to know. Until you share ofc :D
>>47405317
Dawnguard Destors and Mage Hunter Infiltrators ! I'm really curious about them :)
has anyone posted Gorman yet?
>>47405317
Issy, Tyrone, Hyperion and Helios
Any chance Retribution bro could show us the Vyros 1 and the stormfalls please?
>>47405307
No, he did not.
>>47405300
>>47405309
>>47405342
>>47405329
>>47405390
>>47405435
>>47405489
Just so you guys no I'm not goofing around.
I'll share what I can when I can. There's a ton of stuff here to process
>>47405608
Take your time, I'm already happy just to know we will finally get something other than cryx around here !
>>47405608
awesome, thank you very much.
>>47405608
Your fotocrap skills suck.
>>47405630
I have literally everything and I'm tired of shitty spoiler guy. I just need to be careful not to implicate anyone.
I enjoy leaking stuff you guys when I can
>>47405644
You're welcome, be good to eachother. Ret is amazing and got really good in the new edition
>>47405665
On mobile, enjoy what you get
>>47405677
No problem man just joking.
Can you post all the new unit/solo ?
>>47405695
Don't have them. See my earlier post >>47405356
>>47405677
>You're welcome, be good to eachother. Ret is amazing and got really good in the new edition
Sold my ret 3 months before mk3 was announced. Really sucks. I might have to pick it up again.
Working on getting my Khador painted up. Trying to get a decent camera from somewhere. Anyone know of any affordable camera models?
I am curious about Ravyn feat and Issy blindig light. Even without card i sok spoilerbro :D
>>47405754
Price range? If you can find something with a Macro Lens that'd be ideal.
>>47405760
Blinding light is unchanged
Rayvns feat is boosted ranged attack rolls and swift hunter
Plz Kromac 2..
Crazy Beast Guy
>>47405709
Let's get weird with it. Let's see some D-Grade stuff from mk. 2.Trencher Commandos, legion lights, satyrs, Grayle, mohsar, etc
Still looking for some spoilers for the Swamp Gobber River Raiders :)
>>47405776
Like, under $100.
We got anything on the Gator posse yet?
If not, /r/ing
>>47405847
Gatorman Posse- 11/18
Gained Tough
Went down to MAT 6, otherwise same stats
.5” on bite, 2” on Gatorman Weapon (P+S 13 on both)
Prayers:
Dirge of Mists is now “gain concealment
Offerings to Kossk is the reroll against living
Predator’s Prayer is gain Bloodthirst (+2” move on charges against living)
5 boxes
Kept Unyielding
>>47405847
go back to a few threads ago. Almost all of minions was spoiled
>>47405677
>I enjoy leaking stuff you guys when I can
Gods work. How about something from the species neglected by the gods though?
>>47405847
Mat 6, 5 boxes, Blood Thirst now a prayer instead of always on, pathfinder prayer gone, dirge now gives concealment. PC is 18, FA 3.
>>47405847
Most all of minions was spoiled yesterday fyi
>>47405800
You know I always though Grayle was cool, here ya go
can you give some info about Thorn, Ace, ORowdy, Minuteman, dynamo, galant. Thx
>>47405800
>>47405876
>>47405800
>>47405894
>>47405876
Capcha sucks giant balls. Forgot how awful this was
Any news on the Galleon? Is it a privateer model?
Also anything on Drudge Mind Benders? Exulon?
>>47405903
>>47405894
>>47405876
>>47405800
OK, I need to go do real work now. I can only slack off so much.
>>47405919
Can we get eMorvana and eKruger, please, please :)
How come all the leaked cars have shit resolution images on them. Yet the text is super sharp and crisp. Is someone making them just to troll the fuck out of people/
>>47405919
Neat. Thanks spoilerbro
>>47405943
Possibly because they're play test cards so the text would change while the images are static
>>47405943
Possibly because these are final and they don't want to give fakes high res images.
Any hope for jonne and herne...wandering if they are nerfed..
>>47405943
The same thing I am questioning.
>>47405905
>Galleon
OK, sure why not.
Galleon is unchanged but is a Privateer Colossal. Costs 39 points, FA 2
>>47405979
We know the cards are coming from a PDF. The way it works is that things like text are vectors, and so when you zoom in they stay nice and sharp, but art assets will pixelate the more you zoom in.
The card pics just posted are zoomed in.
>>47405993
Really? Nothing changed but it went up 1.5 mk2 points? That's sad
>>47405919
so, this feat could be amazing if the stalker kept berserk right?
>>47406029
It's still super good.
Erfbreaka is also unchanged. Costs 38 points
>>47406029
kind of silly since it can't get spiny growth anymore, which was probably the only 'broken' part about it.
Oh well, more love for normal merc jacks is good
>>47405919
Legion is still the "ignore the other guy's feat" faction.
>>47406046
Stalker did stay mostly the same. Still has Warp Strength and Berserk. Costs 19 points. Lighting Strike costs 1 but is rng self.
His sword is p+s 16
>>47405985
Picked up artillerist. Otherwise unchanged maybe spd 5 on both. Having trouble recalling.
>>47405803
IIRC unchanged. Mat and rat 5. Debuffer hand weapon swings. Idk im not convinced by them. I mighta missed something.
>>47406075
>Lighting Strike costs 1 but is rng self
hello darkness, my old friend.
does he still have prowl? any info on the feral my one true king?
>>47406029
It went up a bit for good reason but literally everything else in Mercs has gone down in cost, so it'll balance out
>>47403496
Oh this is rich.
I get it, Skinwalkers are the "tanky" HI, while Ravagers are the assault type of infantry.
But to be fair, thats like giving the Celtari 8 boxes and the Arcuarii 5 boxes, just to point out their different combat role.
>>47404257
This is bs and you know it.
I am glad to see they took on the defensive part at least, and that the ua got worse.
And they got to much arm to be furry beasts, should be 12/14 at the most. But hey, guess privateer press is thinking this is "game balance" at its best, right?
>>47406075
What's old Krueger2's spell list looking like?
>>47405903
>storm rager went up 1 cost
Vengeance is really nice, though. I guess Wolf Sword are going to be Wolves of Orboros and Reeves?
Anything on Battle Mages [intruding with Ret love]
>>47405794
Thanks man. Chance to know what Stormfall and Destor do now?
>>47406106
Sorry, yes he has Prowl
>>47406088
This is correct, Herne and Joane are the same but got Artilerist. Cost 5 pointa
Hej guys. Hello, spoilerbro.
>>47405677
I just came home from work. Did I miss merc spoiler hour? Just saw some cards in the last thread and am afraid I might have.
Anyone spoil black 13 yet?
>>47406075
The Stalker's animus changing to RNG SELF is not "staying mostly the same".
You could change literally every other stat and piece of text on its card and it would matter less than that one line. It has huge impact for the model and the faction in general.
>>47406143
I'm a new Spoilerbro, long time poster though. I will post Merc stuff when I can but wanted to start with Ret and Circle since they haven't gotten much yet.
What's the one thing you want to know?
Kromac2 Kromac2 Kromac2!!
I'm kind of pissed, like a 3rd of my meta has the .pdfs but they're still insisting on playing coy and not sharing them . . .
Stormfalls or Electromancers
>>47406109
They've always been 12/16 Unyielding. They're miniwerewolves in armor.
>>47406181
I'll just copy my questions from the last threads.
>How's ashlyn doing? I know it's been said, she's 'virtually' unchanged but I'm wary.
>sylis wishwhatever?
>What are the point cost on the mule, rover and mangler?
Any spoilers are welcome. I'm just glad we get any at all.
Baldur 2 please.!!
Any battlemage info going?
>>47406181
What's the Griffon like these days? Still a good spam candidate?
>>47406181
Dawnguard Destors and Mage Hunter Infiltrators ! I'm really curious about them :)
As always, ret casters how do their cards look. Garry especially.
Could we have haley1 and 3, and B13 plz ?
>>47406181
I'd be so grateful for Moros and Arcantrik Force Generator spoilers.
>No Vyros spoilers
>>47406181
Need more on Krueger2!
>>47406205
Yes, but you seem to forget this is "mk3 - nerf ed".
Every thing that seems "logical" from a models standpoint has been taken in to account on other models. Such as humanoid HI for instance, loosing out on def, because frankly, it was ridiculous to think someone could have that defense when wearing a shit-ton of armor!
Same should apply here, wearing nothing but fur and a light chain mail should NOT give you the right to 16 arm, the same arm as a HI from other teams (Protectorate and Skorne for instance) thats wielding a shit-ton of pure metal! I'm talking half a car in armor (not to mention pauldrons)!
This, to me, is just one example that privateer press (even though they really are trying) has their own "favorite" Mary sue units. And are simply trying to manipulate the market to increase sales and such. Shame really, as this is looking to be a great edition otherwise.
I'd like to second the request for Krueger2 and Kromac2 please! Thanks!
>>47406207
Mercs are my first love. Here you go
>Ashlynn
Yes, she's the same. She picked up rng 1 on her sword and now has Dual Attack. Virtuoso no longer exists but it's the same thing. 29 jack points
>Silly Willy, Nailer of Wishes
Unchanged, costs 4 points
>Rover, Mule, Mangler
15 points
>Nomad
11 points
Any other Cephalyx players here who care to share their opinions on how the faction is changing with MK 3?
Most of the changes seem to be positive- I was worried telekinesis might be nerfed because this seems to be "Warmachine: The Downgradening" but it seems most of the core spells for our casters are intact. Deceleration disappointingly only adds to armor and not defense, but the silver lining is that it affects armor vs spells as well as ranged attacks. Affliction looks like it went from being a do nothing waste of a spell to halfway decent.
Our unit leaders trading stealth for sac pawn is perhaps the most worrying change so far. I play against a lot of things that ignore stealth so sac pawn is better for me 90% of the time.
>>47406106
>>47406164
I agree but look at the wording. You can cast lightning strike after you've made a kill to get sprint since it triggers at the end rather than on kill like it did previously. Actually kinda neat
Do you guys know the cost for Bane Warriors?
>>47406181
Thorn Gunmages! What do they do.
>>47406312
Well remember, gun mages lost true sight and you can still block LOS with your grunts.
Overall cephalyx are looking as beast as usual and their monstrosities got even cheaper
>>47406280
lmao
>>47405993
Yay, it can be taken in the pirate theme list.
>>47403496
this is fake
>>47406293
Thank you very very much for not only answering one but all my questions. I take it that none of ash's spells or the feat changed? I might post some more questions later atm, I'm happy.
>>47406312
I cam tell you real quick that Thexus is unchanged except that he picked up inflict pain on his melee weapon. 29 jack points
So... Yeah, totally unchanged
I have a mission, /tg/. Give me an hour.
One very painful hour.
Has Gorten been spoiled yet?
Would love to know his rules, and Ossrum too if possible. Thanks!
>>47406367
Both are spoiled in their entirety in the previous thread
>>47406359
<3 It is good to know my favorite caster is coming out on the other side of this shitstorm all squeaky clean. One clarification I'd ask for is about Inflict Pain. Is that "can instead auto deal 1 damage with melee" ?
>>47406341
Gunmages no longer ignore stealth? not even with the UA? well dang!
>>47406234
Well, we know he makes Imperatus Focus Efficient.
>>47406327
10/17 IIRC. Maybe 11/17, but full unit is definitely 17 points.
>>47406422
Inflict paint is if you hit a warbeast you can add or remove a fury point. See Skorne. It's a dumb flavor rule that will never be relevantI think it's hilarious
Kromac2 is next, give me a second though at first glance he appears unchanged
>>47406280
Except PP has stated the armor something is wearing isn't the only standard for how high something's armor is. Amon isn't wearing any armor yet he's tougher than caine. My point is the durability of the model is also taken into account. These things auto heal for crying out loud. They sound pretty durable.
>>47406196
Yeah, that's annoying. I get it for reasons like not implicating those who shared them, but for the sake of feeling special, it's lame.
>>47406383
Yes! Thanks guys.
Though I am confused, since I believe it was stated by one of the PPS guys (Hungerford?) that Gorten "got tougher".
Might these not be the final versions? Or am I missing some way that he has changed...
>>47406501
Primal Howl will have had to either changed or been removed.
Great give us something for Baldur 2 as well please !!!
Picking up tough is, in fact, tougher.
>>47406501
thanks new spoilerbro. Like your name.
I actually wish I had the PDF's as being slow at work I have nothing but time to type shit up lol
>>47406523
Let's find out together, shall we?
>>47406196
Seriously. People are posting full cards at will; why not just share the pdfs at this point?
Any spoilers about Winter Argus/Griffons/Satyrs?
Or i must post some half-naked hentai chick?
>>47406581
Because reasons, sorry for the trouble. I'm sure some one will share it eventually
>>47406581
Probably the pdf is watermarked or something.
Not going to lie either, posting individual cards is kind of fun. Also, I'm really, really not supposed to be posting cards but it's too much of a pain to type shit up right now
Could you please tell us what changed with Acosta and Anastasia Di Bray?
Thanks for spoilers !
Could we have some info on phaley and B13 plz ?
>>47406615
Also possible, hence the edited screenshots
Pretty please could you post Deneghra 3? I just finished painting her up and took a while so hoping she's not poop..
>>47406502
Still, heavy armor takes away from your defense, because it looks so on the model? This is also a statement from pp.
That makes most of it absurd, and only a excuse when pp feels the need to nerf/buff anything at a whim. Like when you where little and told your friend "well, that wont work, because I'm impervious to bullets", just because you could.
>>47406639
B13 have a few typical rune shots and Concentrated Power. Flare, True Sight, and Mage Storm are gone.
>>47406619
None of have PDF editors?
>>47406573
>def 14
Based
>>47406501
>Inflict paint is if you hit a warbeast you can add or remove a fury point. See Skorne. It's a dumb flavor rule that will never be relevant
I wouldn't say that. With Bone Grinders you could feasibly end up using them for fury management.
>>47406573
>>47406599
>>47406619
>>47406643
Well, Primal Howl being gone sucks. He still looks solid though.
ormat of entries:
SPD/STR/MAT/RAT/DEF/ARM/CMD
Weapon Name/RNG/POW
Hexxy1
6/8/7/4/15/16/8
Fury7
Gulgata 2/14
WB+29
17 Boxes
Vampiric Reaving - Can reave fury points from enemy warbeasts, same as before
Gulgata - Beatback
Blood Boon
Spell List
Death March
Infulence
Obliteration
Soul Slave
Spirit Leech
Feat:
Specifies warrior model now. Says model can't gain back strike bonus. Otherwise appears unchanged.
Hexxy2
6/8/7/4/15/16/8
Fury7
Gulgata/2/14
WB+27
17 boxes
Frield Marshal Channeler
Vampire Harvest - When a living enemy model is destroyed in this mode's control range, a model in this model's battegroup that is in it's control range can remove 1 damage points
Gulgata - Thresher
Ashes to Ashes
Banishing Ward
Black Spot
Cloak of Ash - FF model/unit gains Ashen Veil
Hellfire - No Tough check
Feat: Same
Makeda1
6/7/7/4/15/16/9
Fury 6
Sword of Baalesh 1/12 x 2
WB+29
16 boxes
Blood Quenced
Side Step
Carnage
The Lash COST 3 RNG 10 AOE4 POW13
Warbeasts hit by The Lash suffer -2THR for one round
Quicken
Subjugation of Will COST 2 RNG SELF AOE CTRL Upkeep
While in this model's control range, warbeasts in it's battlegroup gain Shield Guard
Feat
Now compltetly wthin 3" and forfeit combat action instead of movement
